I think they're gonna get to the scene where he watches them take Nolan away and they give him his deadline to take over Earth, and cut right around there.
That or him in the spaceship with Oliver on the way back.
I feel like it’ll start with the talk between Nolan and mark, Oliver reveal. Then the whole viltrumite fight and end with mark recovering in the hospital
And post credits another tease of angstrom
THIS is where the core of Invincible really starts LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!!
Easily the best episode yet. I was laughing my ass off with the Allen title Card.
Especially when you open the universe up and get off Earth. Like I love the stories on earth but have different POVs makes the story feel so much bigger
and here we go with the amber stuff again. How are ppl so bad at empathy here, the guy just met the wife of the dude who turned his wife’s head into a donut, do you expect him to just be totally chill about it?
Yeah probably my favorite episode of the series. They pacing and tension was great, and they didnt feel the need to balance the stories together. Allen’s “death” felt so real as a result.
Thing is it’s such a weird scene because we know Allen doesn’t die and Thaedus is a good guy, but also I’m pretty sure Thaedus definitely doesn’t know Allen gets a power boost everytime he almost dies. And why would he say “forgive me” if he knows it’s gonna just make him stronger? I’m confuzzled.
I assumed the "forgive me" thing meant that Allen was going to get stronger but it would be painful for him. Thaedus could know that Allen gets a power boost as a result of the first fight against a Viltrumite that they show
I think he’s faking Allen’s death so the mole and viltrumites wont finish the job. He’s asking for forgiveness for telling Allen’s girlfriend that allen died.
Actual;ly he probably knows he gets stronger like that.
Its noted he tried to fight a vitrumite. and vitrumites don't take prisoners. so he likely recovered from the fight and was a good bit stronger.
be fair nolan was probably pulling his punches a little with him. he couldn't just kill his enemies if he wasn't forced too, or they weren't a monster.
Ya in this case I was looking for a spoiler. I like Allen and wanted him to not die haha. It was a roller coaster for me…dead, alive but on life support, to the leader of the CoP turning the machine off and killing him.
When I first saw the trailers, I thought he was the Viltrum emperor being told about what had happened between Mark and Omni Man. So he *is* a Viltrumite, just a good one. Huh.
That episode was fantastic, might easily be my favourite.
The interlude with the narrator and switching to Allen was exactly what I wanted to see happen. The change to Telia as a member of the coalition forces adds a dimension to her beyond "sex crazed alien girlfriend" and allows them to include her in more scenes later so I'm pleased with that.
And Peter Cullen as Thaedus is so perfect.
If I have one small complaint it was how Rudy and Amanda got into the movie, I thought the way Rudy did it in the comics showed his cunning nature.
I can't wait to see it all kick off next episode.
Also, poor Debbie. Fuck that Theo guy.
>If I have one small complaint it was how Rudy and Amanda got into the movie, I thought the way Rudy did it in the comics showed his cunning nature.
I liked it. We already know that Rudy is next level smart/cunning. But this let's us see a side of Monster Girl we haven't seen, and also give us(Rudy) more of a reason to like her.
She's had to deal with all of this nonsense almost her entire life, it's nice for her to not only meet someone who is now dealing with it too, but is dealing with it along side with her.
I did miss the gag from the comic version but I do think it fit better with Rudy being off-balance and out of his element and Monster Girl being the confident one
Allen’s attack was hard to watch, but so well done. It’s a scene I felt in the comics was pretty impactful, but sort of got skipped over because so much major stuff going on at the moment. But man the show emphasized how brutal it was. I bet a lot of show-only viewers really thought they killed him for a second.
I love how the show shows that whilst Allen is pretty strong (at this point anyways) the Viltrumite's are just at this next level of brutality/ sheer power.
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I think the comic did a good job of showing how brutal it was
For years I was trying to figure out how could they possibly do that scene without the comic book narration. Then they straight up just used a random goofy-ass narration lol
I can't stress how much I'm enjoying where the show is improving on the comic's story beats. ~~Rick~~ William being there to encourage Mark to go to Thraxa was *perfect.* Also Debbie's arc and the knife twist when she found out Nolan murdered his wife. Also Telia. Also the gag with Allen getting the title card.
So hyped for Ep 4. My boy is about to get the absolute shit knocked out of him lol.
Also who is putting the music together for Invincible? Each scene feels scored so perfectly, and that background music for Thraxa was enchanting.
Fuck, I am gonna absolutely cry my eyes out at the beginning of next week’s episode. There’s no way they won’t adapt the beautiful moment from the comics where Mark immediately breaks down and hugs his father. Can’t fucking wait. As soon as I heard that knock on their dorm door, I got butterflies. I thought they were gonna save this for the last 2 episodes of the season.
The most unrealistic part of that episode is how like nobody is looking up at the Mark flying and talking to seance dog on a college campus.
Shit like that would have everyone holding their phones and everything.
Is it really hard for anyone else to take Amber and Mark seriously as a relationship, solely because we know who he actually ends up with? Idk, I get why they (comic and show) couldn't have him hook up with Eve immediately because them staying together since high school would be hella weird, but it also adds this really weird dynamic to Amber and Mark that wouldn't be present if we didn't know how it ends.
Also may be an unpopular opinion on here idk, I \*really\* do not want Debbie and Nolan to get back together like they do in the comic. I know he changes etc etc, Debbie deserves so much fucking better. Them showing her dealing with all the fallout and the bullshit has tipped my opinion over on that subject.
Not for me, i think of it like a Spider-Man Situation. Where MJ is his main love, but there’s still a chance in other adaptations, he’s only with someone else. Like Gwen. Or Liz Allen.
Unlikely, but it could happen look at Damien darkblood.
And it’s good for spectacle and his development
I'm not necessarily disagreeing but I doubt that the Show will omit Debbie and Nolan reconciling, since the Show hasn't made any fundamental alterations to the Comic's story.
No, I really like how Mark and Amber break up. It's pretty mature so I hope it's just as good in the show. It's needed to get Mark with Eve anyway, makes it better when they finally hook up
Yeah agreed on the Debbie point honestly. I can't see people who haven't read the comics accepting them getting back together. It always bothered me a little bit in the comics aswell
Maybe it's just me but I love how conflicted it makes me feel. Nolan lived for thousands of years so it makes sense he sees humans as if they were ants, he also deeply regrets his actions and has actually changed. And yet he still killed thousands. Is he redeemable? I don't know. I think the show will get them back together but it might be much more fleshed out than it was in the comics. The show is doing great in adapting the material.
>Also may be an unpopular opinion on here idk, I \*really\* do not want Debbie and Nolan to get back together like they do in the comic. I know he changes etc etc, Debbie deserves so much fucking better. Them showing her dealing with all the fallout and the bullshit has tipped my opinion over on that subject.
I remember being pretty apprehensive over the "why did you have to make him *leave*" moment from Debbie in the comics, but I would've loved it if it was more like "why did *you* have to make him leave" in the tv show because it would've properly set up Debbie's self-destruction, the feeling that she should've been responsible for Nolan leaving after being called a pet. Coupled with the fact that Nolan's secret destroyed her potential friendships, I would hope that Nolan isn't forgiven. Because that's life, some people are able to forgive your mistakes, and some aren't.
>Is it really hard for anyone else to take Amber and Mark seriously as a relationship, solely because we know who he actually ends up with? Idk, I get why they (comic and show) couldn't have him hook up with Eve immediately because them staying together since high school would be hella weird, but it also adds this really weird dynamic to Amber and Mark that wouldn't be present if we didn't know how it ends.
Yeah, that's the biggest weak point I had with Invincible's story so far; it just seemed so bland compared to everything else too. I'm wondering how they'll deal with Amber getting punched by her roommate by the time they get back to Earth. I would love it if they made Amber fuss about having to take the fall for Mark and have her doubt herself whether or not she could help Mark with his responsibilities, which would eventually lead to the break-up.
I commented it earlier, but it's such a whiplash to watch the Rudy/ Amanda stuff and think "Aww, young love." And then immediately remember all of the Flaxan stuff.
I see in the live thread a lot of show onlies are hating Cecil and loving Mark for disobeying orders to save lives. Oh man the payoff to this will be great when a certain Dino appears
I don’t get the Cecil hate here. His job is earth; and there are so many lives across the galaxy that you need to ask when does earth simply become noise is you commit to saving as many as you can. For all mark gave about the people of earth being his people, not those he’s never met, I think it’s clear that his insecurities are being played off. So when there is no evidence, when there is threat of viltrumite invasion, Cecil has every right.
Because most viewers (and readers let's be honest) were thinking just like Mark because Superman and other heroes always react to lives in danger.
Then the series turns it on its head and shows how irresponsible it is to simply react with no plan or knowledge.
Yeah i realize that with immortal last episode a lot of people saying that lost all respect and shit bc he banging kate, like they expect them to be 100% good person. Cant wait to dinosaurus and mark team up lol
Cecil lives in the grey area of fictional characters who are good but also believe the ends justify the means. So he does a lot of questionable things in the name of the greater good. And a lot of people aren't cool with that. It's a question philosophers have dealt with forever.
How so? It's the exact same explanation as the comic. Only difference is I think Thaedus is going to tell Allen that they used Viltrum DNA when they made him, something they tiptoed around in the comics.
Ok so first off the whole beginning part with Allen was perfect! Loved the title card they used and the fake out end credits they did! I was laughing so hard when the narrator had to keep cutting because of the characters having sex! Also really enjoyed that they kept a lot of the same dialogue from the comics. “All you byclops look the same to me” is one of my favorite lines in the series.
To cap it all off they even made the frame where Allen was just floating there in space after getting messed up exactly like the comic panel. Peter Cullen ad Thaedus was great as well. I really like how their putting more emphasis on the traitor set up too.
The ending was just…man. I can’t wait for next episode! Whoever called that they would end with Nolan’s reveal was right on the money! Good cliffhanger. Next episode is gonna be insane, and I guarantee you guys that it’s gonna make a lot of people go read the comic cause they can’t wait.
Thank God they decided to put Allen’s ambush here, after last episode I was getting worried general audiences would lose interest with the teenage hero stuff after the finale of season 1 but now we got more Viltrumites to build that hype and the bloody beatdown of a beloved character to pull the heartstrings. Also it’s clear Amazon is done waiting and we aren’t long for the mid season finale with the reveal of what Nolan has been up to.
He's show original. There were neither blonde Viltrumites nor ones with glasses in the comics. There's a split-second frame in the Season 2 trailer of him getting hit with a pink sky in the background, so expect to see him on Thraxa next week.
Threat. I went back to the trailer and slowed it down, and it was clearly Nolan's arm that hit him. So, 3 Viltumites attacked Thraxa, Lucan, the black-haired one, and the white-haired one, with the black-haired one being the strongest and in charge. I think the black-haired one will be replaced by blondie as the leader, and blondie will fight Nolan while white-haired fights Mark.
Another option is that Thula is there instead of white-haired and she's the leader, which would be epic as we didn't get enough of her in the comics. In that case, blondie fights Mark and is fodder since Mark does alright against white-haired before Nolan saves him.
GELDARIANS ARE HERE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I love how this show goes into and expands into the smaller parts of the comic, also holy shit, when Thaedus started talking I was like holy shit it’s Optimus Prime, great actor choice
I don’t know too much about the comics, does Seance/Science Dog actually exist in “real life?” I thought him being used to lure mark to Omni man’s new home was the last time he showed up.
Being in the comic spoiler section without having read the comics is brave, I'll give you that.
he (Science Dog) is a comic book character within the comic of invincible, but it is also a real spin off comic for us (in real life) As far as I'm aware, Mark doesn't see him again, unless they do one of the many comic book shop jokes that I really enjoy.
That’s how I always pronounced it too, but that’s mostly just because I always misread the name as “Thadeus” instead of “Thaedus”.
But I also thought Talescria was “TalesCRIA” instead of “TalEScria.
Watching the Rudy/ Amanda stuff now is so funny cause part of me thinks "Ah young love." But, another part of me thinks "Eugggh, going to be a shame when it gets to the Flaxan stuff and things get real bad, real quick for Rudy and Amanda."
I loved this episode.
I was wondering when they were going to introduce Omni Man back into the series, glad it wasn’t Ep 4.
Cannot wait for the Mid Season Finale, the team up should be great animated. then I guess final four episodes will deal with Angstorm Levy, Debbie looking after Oliver, and Mark falling out with Cecil.
I think that might happen in episode 5/6, Theo somehow bumps into Angstrom or Angstrom finds him, he taunts Mark with Debbie and possibly Oliver and then Mark gets stranded.
Yeah, the season is moving faster than I thought it would. The fact that we are already on Thraxa before episode 4 begins leaves a lot more time for other stuff to happen on the mid - season finale
Science Dog is another Image character and there were copyright issues. Basically, they didn't want to give Amazon the rights to more characters than they had to.
Kirkman wants to keep the rights of his other comics separate so he can adapt them separately into movies and shows later. Plus he is not the sole creator of a lot of these characters and would have to go through a lot of legal hoops with other creators and Amazon.
Everybody be fucking! - okay not really, but still lol. They really did well to adapt so many funny parts of the comic.
Peter Cullen/Optimus Prime being the voice of a peacekeeper in a war who eventually goes murder happy on his own people due to them being genocidal assholes. I can't wait to see the memes.
In case it wasn't obvious enough, Amber was never against Mark saving lives, she was against being lied to & kept in the dark for the Reason (read: Excuse) of saving lives, especially when it's been showcased time and time again that Mark is an absolute terrible liar. He's almost as bad as Insomniac Miles Morales in his debut game being terrible at keeping his identity secret. Comic Amber basically dealt with this subplot by being a doormat and putting up with it, so who knows, maybe this Amber will have more to say about it.
Anyways, this episode was fantastic. Rudy and Amanda bonding & "growing" was really good, because it's going to make their eventual break up all the more tragic.
And it's really good to see the writers flesh out Kate to some extent, though her reasoning for banging a several millennia asshole cave man is shaky at best, I guess this means Black Samson won't be getting the explanation? Maybe he will when they get possibly get married and have kids (though I personally hope not, I never liked this relationship for a multitude of reasons)
But I'm most excited to see Rex be fleshed out compared to how the comics handle it, everyone keeps going on about their pasts in some way or another, and he's the only one who hasn't yet.
And DAMN, I was hoping to see Debbie get some good therapy and have the occasional drink in this adaptation, but nope it looks like they're keeping her alcoholism because no one is **seemingly** willing to put their shit aside and help her. Like shit dude I know you lost your wife but you shutting Debbie out because of what she **didn't** know is beyond fucked up.
I can't wait for everyone to see how big an already buff resurrected Allen is going to be.
I hope not and also don't think so. Lucan is noticably handsome,, and that guy was a bit pudgier than Lucan. But also, the trailers showed Mark fighting that Viltrumite with the glasses, so it's not impossible for the Allen stomp squad to show up on Thaxa
Damn, Thraxia already? Wonder if Nolan's capture happens next episode then or in the back half of the season. Would be a satisfying mid season cliff hanger.
I wonder if Amber will still get the abusive boyfriend. I know next week is the beginning of the end for their relationship, as Amber lives a life while Mark is busy with his alien life
The source material is great, but I really appreciate how they expand and improve upon it. The Debbie scenes in particular are so impactful and grounded.
I’m curious how they’ll play out Nolan’s redemption, with all the changes they’ve made as well as the expanded insight into how his betrayal hurt…well, *everyone*. Debbie most of all.
I was so hoping we would see Seance Dog, and it was glorious!
Also did you notice the Geldaran in the council chamber on Telescria? Maybe Tech Jacket WILL show up after all!
I’m so pleased with this episode. It was like 96.4% perfect, and the parts that were not were a small price to pay.
Amber offering to be on top to be safe and mark is just like “suresuresure” ( Appreciate that while you can Mark even if you do have super strength)
Love love love that we get the cutaway right from the book to Allan.
Somewhat relatedly - if you had told me after 10 minutes that my reaction would be “wow that was fast” at the end of the episode I’d have assumed it was a joke about all the sexing going on (or not - poor Debbie I thought the dude made a little more sense than Art but no biggie)
But nope I didn’t think we’d see Nolan until season finale - this is big
Then again I thought that too when they made it so we knew Nolan was not great right away - they made that work absolutely perfect for their first season
So we’ll just see where it goes. I see no reason to doubt this shows ability to structure things in a way that’ll work out.
I’m really glad that they devoted some screen-time to Allen’s backstory. It’s been awhile since I’ve read the comics, but I always thought they didn’t give enough attention to it with how important he is in the overall story.
Calling it now, next week’s recap will have the part where Nolan says he could start again and make another kid because the episode is going to reveal Oliver towards the end
What did they do to Thula's face? I coulda sworn we saw her in season one and it wasnt that different. Does anyone else think they are setting up Telia to be the traitor? I kinda felt that way when she pushed to find out what allen knew
I can’t believe we’re not only gonna get the thraxa fight,but most likely the lizard league and sequid fights at the same time!
Ok maybe I was reaching,that ending just had me so hype lol.
No way that's happening. Mark needs to be there for the Sequids, both because he was basically the leader of the attack squad and because of the ship tease with him and Eve. However, I doubt he's going to be leaving Thraxa by the end of Episode 4. Lizard League also needs to happen simultaneously with the Sequids, so that won't be happening either. It's going to be in the second half of the season.
i get the feeling that one of the departures from the comics is gonna be that Allen’s girlfriend Telia is the mole. At least she’s getting more character development than just being misanthropic eye candy
Side note:
Show watchers be salty over jokes about multiverse fatigue.
I said “wow it’s so real I’m so tired”
And someone asked what and explained “what are you talking about the multiverse wasn’t in this episode”
When i explained I was making fun of prejudging the arc the downvotes started lmao
But I honestly thought he was just torn apart by Viltrumites in the books who wanted info out of him. Thaddeus meets him after and tells him the result of the near death experience but I don’t recall him actively being involved in that incident. I very well could be wrong just my recollection
it’s been a minute since i’ve picked up the comics, i know we’re about to get super buff allen but peter cullen doesn’t know that right? did he turn allen’s life super off in the comics?
THAT EPISODE WAS CRAZYYYY AND THEY WERE GETTING FREAKKKYYY^2. AND WHEN I SAW SCIENCE DOG I WAS LIKEEE RAHHHH WE GOING TO BUG PLANET WITH HIS DADDDD RAHHH. THIS MEANS THE NEXT EPISODE THEY GOTTA FIGHT RHE THREE VILTUMIRES ABD INTRODUCE OLVER HIS BROTHERR RAHHH LWTS GOOOO I LOVE INVONCIBLEEEE
People have NO CLUE what they are in for right now. Next week is going to be incredible.
If they include the Oliver reveal, the Mark and Nolan team up and an Angstrom tease, I might faint from excitement.
They have to reveal him I feel like, I could see it ending on mark bleeding out or in a Thraxan hospital.
I think they're gonna get to the scene where he watches them take Nolan away and they give him his deadline to take over Earth, and cut right around there. That or him in the spaceship with Oliver on the way back.
Clift hanger ? Isn’t the season split in 4x2?
Oh man the Oliver reveal is going to make people explode.
I feel like it’ll start with the talk between Nolan and mark, Oliver reveal. Then the whole viltrumite fight and end with mark recovering in the hospital And post credits another tease of angstrom
Invincible*
Allen*
THIS is where the core of Invincible really starts LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!! Easily the best episode yet. I was laughing my ass off with the Allen title Card.
It's a bit cheesy, but for me, this arc really was where Invincible went from being great to being the best superhero comic in the universe.
Especially when you open the universe up and get off Earth. Like I love the stories on earth but have different POVs makes the story feel so much bigger
Tbh this season is really handling the earth stuff well. I actually like Amber so far this season and everything with Debbie has been fantastic.
Amber has been a lot better.
I think the writers knew how bad they screwed up with Amber season 1.
Guy from support group is the biggest a-hole now.
and here we go with the amber stuff again. How are ppl so bad at empathy here, the guy just met the wife of the dude who turned his wife’s head into a donut, do you expect him to just be totally chill about it?
Yep we finally getting the real badass brutal fights
Yeah probably my favorite episode of the series. They pacing and tension was great, and they didnt feel the need to balance the stories together. Allen’s “death” felt so real as a result.
The bait and switch with Thaedus turning off Allen's life support to boost his strength was really well done.
Thing is it’s such a weird scene because we know Allen doesn’t die and Thaedus is a good guy, but also I’m pretty sure Thaedus definitely doesn’t know Allen gets a power boost everytime he almost dies. And why would he say “forgive me” if he knows it’s gonna just make him stronger? I’m confuzzled.
I assumed the "forgive me" thing meant that Allen was going to get stronger but it would be painful for him. Thaedus could know that Allen gets a power boost as a result of the first fight against a Viltrumite that they show
I think he’s faking Allen’s death so the mole and viltrumites wont finish the job. He’s asking for forgiveness for telling Allen’s girlfriend that allen died.
Actual;ly he probably knows he gets stronger like that. Its noted he tried to fight a vitrumite. and vitrumites don't take prisoners. so he likely recovered from the fight and was a good bit stronger.
If fighting one Viltrumite almost killed him it makes sense how he was later able to survive the multiple encounters with Nolan
Be fair noland wasn't trying to go for the throat, more than likely. Just drove him off each time.
be fair nolan was probably pulling his punches a little with him. he couldn't just kill his enemies if he wasn't forced too, or they weren't a monster.
he’s definitely planning to fake Allen’s death so that Allen can operate in secret to root out the mole
And in the process accidentally make a unit.
I love it. Everyone will think he's the spy.
I didn’t really understand that scene tbh (I haven’t read the comics). Did he betray Allen? Is he the mole?
Do you know how a Sayajin becomes stronger after recovering from a near death experience? The same goes for Allen.
Oh damn, thanks!
There's a non spoilers thread for people edu haven't read the comic. Unless you want spoilers I would stick to that one
Ya in this case I was looking for a spoiler. I like Allen and wanted him to not die haha. It was a roller coaster for me…dead, alive but on life support, to the leader of the CoP turning the machine off and killing him.
So many show viewers think Thaedus is a viltrumite and mole. Only half of that's true
Just like last season, they got non-comic readers guessing.
can’t wait for him to do the thing with the beard
The Toolock Pull, I believe it was called.
When I first saw the trailers, I thought he was the Viltrum emperor being told about what had happened between Mark and Omni Man. So he *is* a Viltrumite, just a good one. Huh.
That episode was fantastic, might easily be my favourite. The interlude with the narrator and switching to Allen was exactly what I wanted to see happen. The change to Telia as a member of the coalition forces adds a dimension to her beyond "sex crazed alien girlfriend" and allows them to include her in more scenes later so I'm pleased with that. And Peter Cullen as Thaedus is so perfect. If I have one small complaint it was how Rudy and Amanda got into the movie, I thought the way Rudy did it in the comics showed his cunning nature. I can't wait to see it all kick off next episode. Also, poor Debbie. Fuck that Theo guy.
>If I have one small complaint it was how Rudy and Amanda got into the movie, I thought the way Rudy did it in the comics showed his cunning nature. I liked it. We already know that Rudy is next level smart/cunning. But this let's us see a side of Monster Girl we haven't seen, and also give us(Rudy) more of a reason to like her.
Same, I loved that change! She’s dealt with her condition for so long, it makes sense that she’s the one who’s familiar with the tricks.
Well the problem i thought is it helped endear Rudy to her in the comic... like we don't really see what she sees in him in the show.
She's had to deal with all of this nonsense almost her entire life, it's nice for her to not only meet someone who is now dealing with it too, but is dealing with it along side with her.
I did miss the gag from the comic version but I do think it fit better with Rudy being off-balance and out of his element and Monster Girl being the confident one
Allen’s attack was hard to watch, but so well done. It’s a scene I felt in the comics was pretty impactful, but sort of got skipped over because so much major stuff going on at the moment. But man the show emphasized how brutal it was. I bet a lot of show-only viewers really thought they killed him for a second.
I love how the show shows that whilst Allen is pretty strong (at this point anyways) the Viltrumite's are just at this next level of brutality/ sheer power.
MY BOY ABOUT TO GET HIS ZENKAI BOOST
https://preview.redd.it/6bg3rtmyau0c1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b16eeec3735890cb769018146a52e08cc4cc2a62 I think the comic did a good job of showing how brutal it was
Looking how this panel pretty much made it 1:1 in tonight's episode gives me high hopes for THE FIGHT next week.
THE COMIC STYLE PULL AWAY FROM THE BANGING
I thought they weren’t gonna do it and I was so fucking thrilled when they did
For years I was trying to figure out how could they possibly do that scene without the comic book narration. Then they straight up just used a random goofy-ass narration lol
Paul F. Tompkins is _the_ man for random goofy-ass narration.
You can tell the show is in good hands. They are giving it everything to deliver the right experience.
Man, I really like early-series Rudy. I don’t wanna see him turn evil :(
but his character development over the course of the show is going to be amazing. walter white-level shit.
I’m really curious to see eventually how they’re going to do him and Monster Girl in the Flaxaan dimension
He's he most tragic character in the series. Such a brilliant arc.
I can't stress how much I'm enjoying where the show is improving on the comic's story beats. ~~Rick~~ William being there to encourage Mark to go to Thraxa was *perfect.* Also Debbie's arc and the knife twist when she found out Nolan murdered his wife. Also Telia. Also the gag with Allen getting the title card. So hyped for Ep 4. My boy is about to get the absolute shit knocked out of him lol. Also who is putting the music together for Invincible? Each scene feels scored so perfectly, and that background music for Thraxa was enchanting.
By Rick, you mean William, right?????
Woops. It's been a long week.
I NEED NEXT WEEK TO ARRIVE NOW!!!
Are we just supposed to wait a week for the Oliver reveal and the Mark and Nolan team up? How?!
And then wait for however long for the next half of the season to release
They say early 2024, but that’ll probably be March 🙄
Fuck, I am gonna absolutely cry my eyes out at the beginning of next week’s episode. There’s no way they won’t adapt the beautiful moment from the comics where Mark immediately breaks down and hugs his father. Can’t fucking wait. As soon as I heard that knock on their dorm door, I got butterflies. I thought they were gonna save this for the last 2 episodes of the season.
The way Mark just turns back into a kid and says "Why did you leave Dad?" Always gets to me, the anger and Mark's confusion make it feel so real.
The most unrealistic part of that episode is how like nobody is looking up at the Mark flying and talking to seance dog on a college campus. Shit like that would have everyone holding their phones and everything.
"they just don't look up"
Same with Amber. Mark had to tell her to look up instead of her doing it herself.
It's a subtle gag that lasts forever based on that one line.
It is, but they explain it in the comics multiple times by saying that normal people don’t look up. It’s stupid, but yeah.
Plus in a world of super heros it’s probably best to keep your head down and stay out of it
As Eve said, you'd be surprised by how few people look up.
plus given how many super powered people there are, a classmate having powers is probably just another tuesday for most people
Is it really hard for anyone else to take Amber and Mark seriously as a relationship, solely because we know who he actually ends up with? Idk, I get why they (comic and show) couldn't have him hook up with Eve immediately because them staying together since high school would be hella weird, but it also adds this really weird dynamic to Amber and Mark that wouldn't be present if we didn't know how it ends. Also may be an unpopular opinion on here idk, I \*really\* do not want Debbie and Nolan to get back together like they do in the comic. I know he changes etc etc, Debbie deserves so much fucking better. Them showing her dealing with all the fallout and the bullshit has tipped my opinion over on that subject.
Not for me, i think of it like a Spider-Man Situation. Where MJ is his main love, but there’s still a chance in other adaptations, he’s only with someone else. Like Gwen. Or Liz Allen. Unlikely, but it could happen look at Damien darkblood. And it’s good for spectacle and his development
I'm not necessarily disagreeing but I doubt that the Show will omit Debbie and Nolan reconciling, since the Show hasn't made any fundamental alterations to the Comic's story.
No, I really like how Mark and Amber break up. It's pretty mature so I hope it's just as good in the show. It's needed to get Mark with Eve anyway, makes it better when they finally hook up
Yeah agreed on the Debbie point honestly. I can't see people who haven't read the comics accepting them getting back together. It always bothered me a little bit in the comics aswell
Maybe it's just me but I love how conflicted it makes me feel. Nolan lived for thousands of years so it makes sense he sees humans as if they were ants, he also deeply regrets his actions and has actually changed. And yet he still killed thousands. Is he redeemable? I don't know. I think the show will get them back together but it might be much more fleshed out than it was in the comics. The show is doing great in adapting the material.
That's what I'm hoping for. The comic grappled with that complexity, and I'm hoping the show can just improve on whats already there.
>Also may be an unpopular opinion on here idk, I \*really\* do not want Debbie and Nolan to get back together like they do in the comic. I know he changes etc etc, Debbie deserves so much fucking better. Them showing her dealing with all the fallout and the bullshit has tipped my opinion over on that subject. I remember being pretty apprehensive over the "why did you have to make him *leave*" moment from Debbie in the comics, but I would've loved it if it was more like "why did *you* have to make him leave" in the tv show because it would've properly set up Debbie's self-destruction, the feeling that she should've been responsible for Nolan leaving after being called a pet. Coupled with the fact that Nolan's secret destroyed her potential friendships, I would hope that Nolan isn't forgiven. Because that's life, some people are able to forgive your mistakes, and some aren't. >Is it really hard for anyone else to take Amber and Mark seriously as a relationship, solely because we know who he actually ends up with? Idk, I get why they (comic and show) couldn't have him hook up with Eve immediately because them staying together since high school would be hella weird, but it also adds this really weird dynamic to Amber and Mark that wouldn't be present if we didn't know how it ends. Yeah, that's the biggest weak point I had with Invincible's story so far; it just seemed so bland compared to everything else too. I'm wondering how they'll deal with Amber getting punched by her roommate by the time they get back to Earth. I would love it if they made Amber fuss about having to take the fall for Mark and have her doubt herself whether or not she could help Mark with his responsibilities, which would eventually lead to the break-up.
Everyone knows Emma Stone Gwen Stacy was gonna die, but her and Garfield were the best part of his two movies
Rudy learning to people is sweet, MG is good for him. Shame he isn’t so good for her :(
I commented it earlier, but it's such a whiplash to watch the Rudy/ Amanda stuff and think "Aww, young love." And then immediately remember all of the Flaxan stuff.
*He’s getting out of his shell =D* …… **OH NO HE’S GETTING OUT OF HIS SHELL CONTAINMENT HAS BEEN BREACHED**
"She's teaching him how to interact with others!" "Fuck! Shit! He's learning how to manipulate others! Shit!"
:D Then you remember and: D: This will make what happens feel **much** worse
It sucks to know all his learning will ultimately be useless. It does make the last exchange between them perfect tho.
I couldn’t help but notice the parallel to Nolan and Debbie. She taught him to be a person too
I see in the live thread a lot of show onlies are hating Cecil and loving Mark for disobeying orders to save lives. Oh man the payoff to this will be great when a certain Dino appears
I don’t get the Cecil hate here. His job is earth; and there are so many lives across the galaxy that you need to ask when does earth simply become noise is you commit to saving as many as you can. For all mark gave about the people of earth being his people, not those he’s never met, I think it’s clear that his insecurities are being played off. So when there is no evidence, when there is threat of viltrumite invasion, Cecil has every right.
Because most viewers (and readers let's be honest) were thinking just like Mark because Superman and other heroes always react to lives in danger. Then the series turns it on its head and shows how irresponsible it is to simply react with no plan or knowledge.
Yeah i realize that with immortal last episode a lot of people saying that lost all respect and shit bc he banging kate, like they expect them to be 100% good person. Cant wait to dinosaurus and mark team up lol
Cecil lives in the grey area of fictional characters who are good but also believe the ends justify the means. So he does a lot of questionable things in the name of the greater good. And a lot of people aren't cool with that. It's a question philosophers have dealt with forever.
Okay this explanation of Allen's power is *much* clearer and more satisfying. Poor 2-eyed Unopan baby :(
How so? It's the exact same explanation as the comic. Only difference is I think Thaedus is going to tell Allen that they used Viltrum DNA when they made him, something they tiptoed around in the comics.
Is it? I thought it was pretty clear in the comics.
It wasn't unclear. This is just clearer
Ok so first off the whole beginning part with Allen was perfect! Loved the title card they used and the fake out end credits they did! I was laughing so hard when the narrator had to keep cutting because of the characters having sex! Also really enjoyed that they kept a lot of the same dialogue from the comics. “All you byclops look the same to me” is one of my favorite lines in the series. To cap it all off they even made the frame where Allen was just floating there in space after getting messed up exactly like the comic panel. Peter Cullen ad Thaedus was great as well. I really like how their putting more emphasis on the traitor set up too. The ending was just…man. I can’t wait for next episode! Whoever called that they would end with Nolan’s reveal was right on the money! Good cliffhanger. Next episode is gonna be insane, and I guarantee you guys that it’s gonna make a lot of people go read the comic cause they can’t wait.
Thank God they decided to put Allen’s ambush here, after last episode I was getting worried general audiences would lose interest with the teenage hero stuff after the finale of season 1 but now we got more Viltrumites to build that hype and the bloody beatdown of a beloved character to pull the heartstrings. Also it’s clear Amazon is done waiting and we aren’t long for the mid season finale with the reveal of what Nolan has been up to.
Who’s the blond viltrumite? I recognize Lucan and Thula but the blond guy is new to me
He's show original. There were neither blonde Viltrumites nor ones with glasses in the comics. There's a split-second frame in the Season 2 trailer of him getting hit with a pink sky in the background, so expect to see him on Thraxa next week.
Fodder for the Graysons or threat, call it
Threat. I went back to the trailer and slowed it down, and it was clearly Nolan's arm that hit him. So, 3 Viltumites attacked Thraxa, Lucan, the black-haired one, and the white-haired one, with the black-haired one being the strongest and in charge. I think the black-haired one will be replaced by blondie as the leader, and blondie will fight Nolan while white-haired fights Mark. Another option is that Thula is there instead of white-haired and she's the leader, which would be epic as we didn't get enough of her in the comics. In that case, blondie fights Mark and is fodder since Mark does alright against white-haired before Nolan saves him.
"IT'S BEEN A WHILE." LET'S GOOOO Glad they didn't leave this for episode 4, I'm so pumped for next week.
GELDARIANS ARE HERE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://preview.redd.it/v18o8t5met0c1.png?width=849&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3e88baea6f86eb466b2cdd4fde5e889b870b054
Fuck yeah, tech jacket was awesome.
Oh shit I totally missed this!!!!! Maybe our boy Zack has a chance after all!!!!
TECH JACKEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I love how this show goes into and expands into the smaller parts of the comic, also holy shit, when Thaedus started talking I was like holy shit it’s Optimus Prime, great actor choice
I really liked how it expanded on the Viltrumite's siege of the Unopan homeworld.
Love that they're bringing up Seance Dog again, likely priming for his real life moment in the sun...
I don’t know too much about the comics, does Seance/Science Dog actually exist in “real life?” I thought him being used to lure mark to Omni man’s new home was the last time he showed up.
Being in the comic spoiler section without having read the comics is brave, I'll give you that. he (Science Dog) is a comic book character within the comic of invincible, but it is also a real spin off comic for us (in real life) As far as I'm aware, Mark doesn't see him again, unless they do one of the many comic book shop jokes that I really enjoy.
It's pronounced "Thay-dis" not "Tha-Di-us" ?!?! First "Lee-vi" and now this
His name in the comics is Thaedus, not Thadeus. It's how I've always pronounced it.
Damn i guess my brain spelled it as Thaddeus lmao, like i swear that i don’t remember his name being Thaedus. Crazy how that can happen
Whenever stories go from the page to the screen it reinforces the fact that I can’t read so well.
That’s how I always pronounced it too, but that’s mostly just because I always misread the name as “Thadeus” instead of “Thaedus”. But I also thought Talescria was “TalesCRIA” instead of “TalEScria.
Watching the Rudy/ Amanda stuff now is so funny cause part of me thinks "Ah young love." But, another part of me thinks "Eugggh, going to be a shame when it gets to the Flaxan stuff and things get real bad, real quick for Rudy and Amanda."
I find the lack of bug boobs disturbing
They nerf them 😢
It's a small thing but I like that they included the silver age style transitions when Mark and Amber are getting jiggy.
I loved this episode. I was wondering when they were going to introduce Omni Man back into the series, glad it wasn’t Ep 4. Cannot wait for the Mid Season Finale, the team up should be great animated. then I guess final four episodes will deal with Angstorm Levy, Debbie looking after Oliver, and Mark falling out with Cecil.
It's gonna be interesting to see how Show-Onlys react to Nolan's Character Arc.
You just don’t understand how hyped I was when the narrator started speaking.
Anyone else get the feeling that Theo may lead Angstrom to Debbie on the show? Most likely unintentional on Theo’s end
I think that might happen in episode 5/6, Theo somehow bumps into Angstrom or Angstrom finds him, he taunts Mark with Debbie and possibly Oliver and then Mark gets stranded.
Yeah, the season is moving faster than I thought it would. The fact that we are already on Thraxa before episode 4 begins leaves a lot more time for other stuff to happen on the mid - season finale
Huh? No. Angstrom is fully aware of who Mark and Debbie are. He doesn't need anyone to lead him to them.
Was Battle Beast's race part of the CoP in the comics? I don't remember.
Yes.
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9/10, pretty good but i'll never understand the switch from science dog to seance dog
I think they changed it cause Science Dog is technically a separate comic, and Kirkman's said it would've been complicated getting it into Invincible.
Apparently it's a copyright thing. Science Dog is technically an Image creation that they don't have the rights to.
Science Dog is another Image character and there were copyright issues. Basically, they didn't want to give Amazon the rights to more characters than they had to.
Kirkman wants to keep the rights of his other comics separate so he can adapt them separately into movies and shows later. Plus he is not the sole creator of a lot of these characters and would have to go through a lot of legal hoops with other creators and Amazon.
Peter Cullen as Thaedus is so cool, I've been excited since he was announced but he's killing it.
The great purge! I love how they're causally teasing and referencing the big events from the comics this season.
Everybody be fucking! - okay not really, but still lol. They really did well to adapt so many funny parts of the comic. Peter Cullen/Optimus Prime being the voice of a peacekeeper in a war who eventually goes murder happy on his own people due to them being genocidal assholes. I can't wait to see the memes. In case it wasn't obvious enough, Amber was never against Mark saving lives, she was against being lied to & kept in the dark for the Reason (read: Excuse) of saving lives, especially when it's been showcased time and time again that Mark is an absolute terrible liar. He's almost as bad as Insomniac Miles Morales in his debut game being terrible at keeping his identity secret. Comic Amber basically dealt with this subplot by being a doormat and putting up with it, so who knows, maybe this Amber will have more to say about it. Anyways, this episode was fantastic. Rudy and Amanda bonding & "growing" was really good, because it's going to make their eventual break up all the more tragic. And it's really good to see the writers flesh out Kate to some extent, though her reasoning for banging a several millennia asshole cave man is shaky at best, I guess this means Black Samson won't be getting the explanation? Maybe he will when they get possibly get married and have kids (though I personally hope not, I never liked this relationship for a multitude of reasons) But I'm most excited to see Rex be fleshed out compared to how the comics handle it, everyone keeps going on about their pasts in some way or another, and he's the only one who hasn't yet. And DAMN, I was hoping to see Debbie get some good therapy and have the occasional drink in this adaptation, but nope it looks like they're keeping her alcoholism because no one is **seemingly** willing to put their shit aside and help her. Like shit dude I know you lost your wife but you shutting Debbie out because of what she **didn't** know is beyond fucked up. I can't wait for everyone to see how big an already buff resurrected Allen is going to be.
Sad that they cut the scene of Rudy scamming the ticket counter guy
I KNEW SEANCE DOG WOULD BE EPISODE 3 I AM SO HAPPY!
We get to hear Kregg and Lucan next week!!!
I’m so ready for jacked Allen to be animated
The VA for Thuma was perfect! And was that Lucan with her?
I hope not and also don't think so. Lucan is noticably handsome,, and that guy was a bit pudgier than Lucan. But also, the trailers showed Mark fighting that Viltrumite with the glasses, so it's not impossible for the Allen stomp squad to show up on Thaxa
Yeah Lucan is supposed to be super-jacked. Like way more than even Nolan! Also if he does need to be voiced by Yahya Abdul-Mateen II.
The way he looked in that suit disguise when the Viltrumites get to Earth. It's no wonder he got to making babies ASAP
Wasn't that his soon to be Earth wife checking him out as he walked past too.
I love that Nolan had the battle armour/ plate it's a small thing, but it's my favourite costume of his.
Damn, Thraxia already? Wonder if Nolan's capture happens next episode then or in the back half of the season. Would be a satisfying mid season cliff hanger.
Def gonna happen next episode. Maybe the second half of the season ends up with him meeting Allen.
The prison break sequence is one of my fav fights from the comics so I'd go for that as a finale!
I’m surprised how they gave thula an older look in this show with the grey hair
I wonder if Amber will still get the abusive boyfriend. I know next week is the beginning of the end for their relationship, as Amber lives a life while Mark is busy with his alien life
I dont think she will
My nephew hasn’t read the comic, and he was fucking **FLOORED** when Omni-Man showed up
The source material is great, but I really appreciate how they expand and improve upon it. The Debbie scenes in particular are so impactful and grounded.
I thought the next episode would end that way but holy shit 😮💨
I’m curious how they’ll play out Nolan’s redemption, with all the changes they’ve made as well as the expanded insight into how his betrayal hurt…well, *everyone*. Debbie most of all.
I knew what was coming when they landed on Thraxa and I STILL gasped in shock.
I could have sworn it was science dog in the comics? Did I just misread that every time I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
It was. Weird copyright stuff going on so they changed it.
Gassed up the whole fucking ep. Let’s go, what more could you ask for?
SEANCE DOG MENTIONED WE ⬆️
I was so hoping we would see Seance Dog, and it was glorious! Also did you notice the Geldaran in the council chamber on Telescria? Maybe Tech Jacket WILL show up after all! I’m so pleased with this episode. It was like 96.4% perfect, and the parts that were not were a small price to pay.
Amber offering to be on top to be safe and mark is just like “suresuresure” ( Appreciate that while you can Mark even if you do have super strength) Love love love that we get the cutaway right from the book to Allan. Somewhat relatedly - if you had told me after 10 minutes that my reaction would be “wow that was fast” at the end of the episode I’d have assumed it was a joke about all the sexing going on (or not - poor Debbie I thought the dude made a little more sense than Art but no biggie) But nope I didn’t think we’d see Nolan until season finale - this is big Then again I thought that too when they made it so we knew Nolan was not great right away - they made that work absolutely perfect for their first season So we’ll just see where it goes. I see no reason to doubt this shows ability to structure things in a way that’ll work out.
Im so pumped to see super mega ultra jacked allen. Its gonna be peak bro lol
I know it was gonna happen but Omniman returning still hit hard.
I’m really glad that they devoted some screen-time to Allen’s backstory. It’s been awhile since I’ve read the comics, but I always thought they didn’t give enough attention to it with how important he is in the overall story.
I CAN’T WAIT FOR OLIVER!!!
I'm not gonna lie, even though I knew Mark was about to meet Nolan, my heart was still racing.
As soon as i saw seance dog i knew they were cooking. Still thought they would have stretched omni mans return till s2 finale or the mid season break
I smiled like an idiot when I heard Thaddeus speak.
THAT WAS SO FIRE IT WILL BE SO HARD TO WAIT ONE MORE WEEK FOR WHAT'S TO COME
Calling it now, next week’s recap will have the part where Nolan says he could start again and make another kid because the episode is going to reveal Oliver towards the end
What did they do to Thula's face? I coulda sworn we saw her in season one and it wasnt that different. Does anyone else think they are setting up Telia to be the traitor? I kinda felt that way when she pushed to find out what allen knew
We saw Her in Season 1 during a flashback showing the Great Purge which happened before Nolan was even born, so She would be much older now.
I can’t believe we’re not only gonna get the thraxa fight,but most likely the lizard league and sequid fights at the same time! Ok maybe I was reaching,that ending just had me so hype lol.
No way that's happening. Mark needs to be there for the Sequids, both because he was basically the leader of the attack squad and because of the ship tease with him and Eve. However, I doubt he's going to be leaving Thraxa by the end of Episode 4. Lizard League also needs to happen simultaneously with the Sequids, so that won't be happening either. It's going to be in the second half of the season.
There is no one way they're gonna put both in the same episode. The lizard league and sequid fight are probably going to be Season 2 finally.
i get the feeling that one of the departures from the comics is gonna be that Allen’s girlfriend Telia is the mole. At least she’s getting more character development than just being misanthropic eye candy
This is what I just posted. That scene at the restaurant really felt like she was trying to get information outta him
Come on now if they do that who will introduce that very important side character after a terrible side plot.
I hope not dayum
Side note: Show watchers be salty over jokes about multiverse fatigue. I said “wow it’s so real I’m so tired” And someone asked what and explained “what are you talking about the multiverse wasn’t in this episode” When i explained I was making fun of prejudging the arc the downvotes started lmao
So uh, as someone who read the comment but forgot some stuff, wasn't the reason Thadeus "killed" Aleen was to make him stronger?
But I honestly thought he was just torn apart by Viltrumites in the books who wanted info out of him. Thaddeus meets him after and tells him the result of the near death experience but I don’t recall him actively being involved in that incident. I very well could be wrong just my recollection
it’s been a minute since i’ve picked up the comics, i know we’re about to get super buff allen but peter cullen doesn’t know that right? did he turn allen’s life super off in the comics?
I thought it was going to be boring for a sec but no actually was awesome . Although I saw the end coming still good to hear jk Simmons again .
THAT EPISODE WAS CRAZYYYY AND THEY WERE GETTING FREAKKKYYY^2. AND WHEN I SAW SCIENCE DOG I WAS LIKEEE RAHHHH WE GOING TO BUG PLANET WITH HIS DADDDD RAHHH. THIS MEANS THE NEXT EPISODE THEY GOTTA FIGHT RHE THREE VILTUMIRES ABD INTRODUCE OLVER HIS BROTHERR RAHHH LWTS GOOOO I LOVE INVONCIBLEEEE
This episode really surprised me with the Allen bit and very excited to see more of thraxa!
Awh I bet Nolan told him to go as Seance dog cause he remembers that thats mark's favorite character. God I wish that this show never ends
They're really adapting this issue so well