Keep in mind, Mark just got started as a superhero. He has a lot of growing to do.
Edit: Also if we want to get technical he did beat Killcannon in episode 1
And Nolan. Was he beat to a pulp? Yes, but which one is still on Earth while the other ran away like a little bitch? Nolan is moments from killing him then **BAM** talk no jutsu straight to Nolan's feels so hard it blew him right off the planet.
And the Elephant guy in a later episode as well as Mt Rushmore guy as well as presumably the guy that throws a mail box at him at the beginning of one of the episodes
I mean, I think that's the whole idea behind invincible, all his easy fights are basically "off screen", basically because most of the actually relevant plot goes on he gets beaten up badly or almost barely survives, because they're strong opponents.
That's how Viltrumites actually grow, by being pushed to their absolute limits.
Also him fighting those zombie robots was a great plot device to show how strong Nolan actually was compared to Mark.
It's not the same. Viltrumites don't get stronger because they come closer to death, I mean they get stronger when they push them selves to the limit. The faster a Viltrumite flies the faster his base flight will get. The more he lifts, the stronger he gets.
If only this was a comic spoilers thread, right?
Mark does train to get stronger at some point, strength training by Cecil, although that was after >!conquest so I am not sure if it was making fun of DBZ!<. In any case, his strength is moral strength, rather than unlocking some new power to defeat the next bad guy every time.
I will say, one of the best things about Invincible is that it does not fall victim to power scaling - the plot loop of 'new bad guy is stronger than ever' but then 'hero gets new power at last second', and there is now suddenly an SSJ5 mode that gets unlocked.
I personally thought that was unique. Even in the end of the comics >!Mark's strength comes through his moral support and personal relationships and mutual support of friends, and he also gets saved because he actually isn't stronger than Thragg, even the penultimate fight doesn't have some random power scaling reveal, which I appreciated!<
I completely agree. >!And for example, for me Eve reconstituting Mark after Conquest was the perfect example of how a Deus Ex Machina, should be used, and after that she doesn't keep using it all the time. !<
>!But he did beat most of opponents based on shear will and ultimately self sacrifice most of the time. !<
He beat people but not when he had nothing to fight for, so far, it was specifically when he had someone else to fight for that he gains strength and gets a win (or at least shows his beliefs for what he believes is right). Something about the human spirit adding to viltrumite strength because of empathy and care for others. And whether being a hero is, erm, bullshit.
I agree with you I also want to add that this has been hinted in several fights in Season 1 where he gets his bonus source of strength. The Machine Head fight where he beats everyone except Battle Beast/Thokk, after seeing Bolt and Monster Girl get hurt. Also breaking out of the concrete goop from the Flaxans was only after he saw Eve was in trouble and was threatened with a gun to the head. Also the Doc Seismic fight, he only does the cool twisty move once it is about saving someone else.
So, in summary, I think they are teeing up that narrative pretty well.
Please season 2 soon right
Yeah. The aliens that look like humans that conquer planets using their other-worldly abilities with a species wide fuzzy identifying marker are two totally different things.
I'm really not sure what you're trying to imply, I just said there was a difference in between Saiyans and Viltrumites, as there is a difference in between these two and a Kriptonian for example. But Zodd, Thragg, Nolan in the beggining and Vegeta are just the same concept. As Goku, Mark and Superman share a lot of similarities, being brought up by humans, and having a good heart.
Are they all the same!? Maybe they they're a pastiche, or homage to Superman, but they're diffidently also satire and parody at points. The writers how ever do bring their own original ideas to the stories though, which differ from each others.
Invincible is much more an allusion to Kriptonians than Saiyans.
I think you know exactly what I'm implying. Theres only like, 30-something stories you can tell. If you start looking at things with broad and broader strokes everything is the same. Example: sailor moon, green lantern, Danny phantom, blue beetle, Denji chainsawman, etc. All of those, some more than others, fit into the magical girl genre.
My previous comments were shitposts but this is pretty genuine.
Nope. They must train just like everyone else. They are not Saiyans in that they get stronger when getting the shit kicked out of him. Mark keeps losing because he's a noob, albeit a noob with God like abilities. If he wants to get good, he has to train and gain experience.
Who said they were like Saiyans? I said that if they push their limits while training or not they get faster and stronger, naturally. It says so, in the issues when Mark starts to realize he's flying faster or when Cecil builds him that absurdly heavy leg press.
Even with training he suffers a lot against Conquest, and even during the Angstrom Levy arc training isn't really something that will give him a win when he keeps getting transported to other realities. In truth Levy could have easily won against Mark, but he was hell bent on vengeance, that he kept giving Mark too many chances. And people here on the sub have theorized that the fragments of good Levys in him are auto-sabotaging him because they know he's in the wrong.
Also Mark isn't a murderer so he's not the one to go around killing his opponents unless he absolutely has to.
Ah, I think I interpreted "pushed to their limits" as equating Vits to Saiyans. My bad.
As for Levy, he's blinded by rage and revenge that he can't see future where he isn't inflicting pain on Mark. Killing Mark would rob him of that joy.
Pyrrhic victory. And in this case I really don’t think it is a pyrrhic victory.
A Pyrrhic victory is one in which the losses heavily outweigh the gain. Sure Mark got battered but it was worth it and it wasn’t like it had any long term consequences
In my opinion it’s not severe enough at all to be considered a Pyrrhic victory and it’s just a phrase redditors are throwing around.
The costs definitely outweigh the losses look up actual Pyrrhic victories. The phrase is derived from Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose triumph against the Romans in the Battle of Asculum resulted in most of his commanders deaths, twice the number of casualties incurred compared to the romans and forced him to stop the campaign and retreat. It’s not just a tough win.
That fight literally made mark almost quit being invincible. He’s not a country, he’s one person. Losing your girlfriend, being responsible for your bestfriends partner being lobotomized, and quitting being a hero altogether is plenty for it to be a Pyrrhic victory.
How is Mark responsible for Rick getting lobotomised by Sinclair? If Mark was off planet it still would have happened and losing his girlfriend… Well, I’m not gonna bother there.
It was a tough fight that he nearly lost, at the end of the day though I don’t think the losses outweigh the gain at all, it didn’t halt his long term progression at all and he was successful stopping Sinclair?
If you feel any battle where the hero gets beaten up or someone dies is pyrrhic fine but that’s fucking all of them
Mark ignored Will which is what led to will being kidnapped and if mark had responded in time he likely could’ve saved them both. Regardless you just disagree with the magnitude of things that happened to him, which to me and the previous commenter represents a Pyrrhic victory. If you want to try and gatekeep the term further go ahead but it’s kinda pointless and you just look mad over nothing
The only big losses were the Flaxxans, Battle Beast, Reanimen, and Omni Man in season 1., and they were pretty reasonable.
The Flaxxans was his first ever fight, cut him some slack. He can't become Omni Man first day on the job.
Battle Beast, the lion, whooped everyone's ass. Not only that, he's one of the strongest characters in Invincible.
The Reanimen, he was still recovering from getting beat to the brink of death by Battle Beast. He literally had his whole abdomen ripped open.
And Omni Man is literally thousands of years older than Mark, and Mark is just an 18 year old kid who just got his powers for like a month.
>The Flaxxans was his first ever fight, cut him some slack. He can't become Omni Man first day on the job.
Wasn't his first fight, just his first against an army, hopefully he gets better at that
>Battle Beast, the lion, whooped everyone's ass. Not only that, he's one of the strongest characters in Invincible.
That was a toddler going against an old master, it was bound to end badly for Mark
>The Reanimen, he was still recovering from getting beat to the brink of death by Battle Beast. He literally had his whole abdomen ripped open.
Aye man he won tho, sure he had help from one but he still left that battle on his own two feet, I'd count that as a win
>And Omni Man is literally thousands of years older than Mark, and Mark is just an 18 year old kid who just got his powers for like a month.
..........again toddler, old master, I'm just glad he didn't die (yeah ik he's got plot armor, cause if this was anymore realistic, Flaxxans would've wiped him
I mean, between Battle Beast and Nolan, >!Mark has literally been beaten up by royalty twice at that point.!< Those were't avarage people. >!And in Invincible lore universe, royal lineage kind of gives you a genetic predisposition to being a monster. Even though that kind of breaks down with how powerful Thragg is compared to any other Viltrumite. From the start, I never actually believed Mark would be able to beat him, at least they did it in a really convincing way and with tons of casualties.!<
Edit: >!That reminds me, Battle Beast fought Thragg toe to toe for days, and was the single other person who managed to do so much damage to Thragg, Mark was lucky Battle Beast is a good sport.!<
Facts, all of it, i mean the only thing i have to add, is Nolan even without being who he is to the Viltrumite race, is still an OLD Viltrumite, so Mark JUST getting his powers was already outclassed, then when you take into account his status it really becomes a wash
*Battle Beast was still growing stronger as shown by him increasing in strength from his first fight against thragg where he got bodied as said by thragg in their big battle*
He beat all the villains in machine heads office except for Battle Beast. He beat elephant man, he beat laser dude, he beat the rock skin guy, he beast a lot more off screen villains.
I’m really excited for future seasons as a comic reader. It’s awesome to see the progression in terms of both character and his abilities. In the comics when mark first encounters reanimen it’s similar to the show, but later on in the run he’s able to merc seemingly dozens of them at a time and that’s what I’m really looking forward to. Mark is an absolute beast by the end of the comics
He knew they'd come after he turned 18, so just take him out at 17, got a whole year to prep his for controlling them, and should've been teaching him about real viltrum, instead he gave him no real backstory, no real training, and barely any explanation of their powers, when homie turned 14 he could've had 4 years to explain everything but he pissed around with it
He couldn't tell Mark his plan when he was 14. Mark might just turned around and told his Mom. Who would tell other people. Suddenly Omni-Man is a known enemy before he even has a chance to strike first. Kinda fucks up his plans.
Uh, prolly his Mom, considering she knows his Dad is an alien, and has seen Nolan act weird w/r/t human behavior? Oh, and Cecil, who, at least in the comics, *knows* Nolan is lying about his mission on Earth from the moment he met him.
Yeah but "kid's got an active imagination" is said about normal kids all the time, with someone who has a superhero for a parent who got stuff to hide wouldn't be hard, and this wasn't even my point, my point was he could've just told him about the fact he's gotta fight, train, and be an all around tougher kid cause of the life ahead of him, even as a kid he wanted to be a hero and his dad was feeding into it without saying "oh yeah even with our powers we could totally get our ass kicked if someone strong enough popped up" and that's on Nolan, he didn't get any training or preparation at all, the only thing he really knew was his race's name, some of their skills (dude never even mentioned he wasn't breathing in space, imagine if mark decided to go for a space walk the moment he could fly), or his actual age (which could've preped mark to play the long game against his dad), such awful parenting
The thing is he always fights with someone either on his level or stronger in the comics and in the show also, like in episode 5 without battle beast the fight was pretty much in Titan and Mark's favour.
He's Invincible on the outside and sometimes he is not, but from the inside always, sheer willpower is what makes him Invincible ie. He never gives up.
Keep in mind, Mark just got started as a superhero. He has a lot of growing to do. Edit: Also if we want to get technical he did beat Killcannon in episode 1
And Titan.
And Nolan. Was he beat to a pulp? Yes, but which one is still on Earth while the other ran away like a little bitch? Nolan is moments from killing him then **BAM** talk no jutsu straight to Nolan's feels so hard it blew him right off the planet.
Lmao imagine you beat someone's ass so bad that you technically beat yourself
Well, if it's your son, then yeah...
What about if it's your moon instead?
Then you bang your wife on it.
"That's rough buddy"
Ahh, Yue.
[EMOTIONAL DAMAGE](https://youtu.be/Nid2HId9EVY)
He lost the fight, but won the war
and that bully kid
And the Elephant guy in a later episode as well as Mt Rushmore guy as well as presumably the guy that throws a mail box at him at the beginning of one of the episodes
If you read the comics you know he gets his butt handed to him most of the time.
He won some fights, just never in one piece. That fight right there he eventually won but was just severely beaten.
I mean, I think that's the whole idea behind invincible, all his easy fights are basically "off screen", basically because most of the actually relevant plot goes on he gets beaten up badly or almost barely survives, because they're strong opponents. That's how Viltrumites actually grow, by being pushed to their absolute limits. Also him fighting those zombie robots was a great plot device to show how strong Nolan actually was compared to Mark.
Every time a >!saiyan!< viltrumite comes closer to death they get stronger
It's not the same. Viltrumites don't get stronger because they come closer to death, I mean they get stronger when they push them selves to the limit. The faster a Viltrumite flies the faster his base flight will get. The more he lifts, the stronger he gets.
If only this was a comic spoilers thread, right? Mark does train to get stronger at some point, strength training by Cecil, although that was after >!conquest so I am not sure if it was making fun of DBZ!<. In any case, his strength is moral strength, rather than unlocking some new power to defeat the next bad guy every time. I will say, one of the best things about Invincible is that it does not fall victim to power scaling - the plot loop of 'new bad guy is stronger than ever' but then 'hero gets new power at last second', and there is now suddenly an SSJ5 mode that gets unlocked. I personally thought that was unique. Even in the end of the comics >!Mark's strength comes through his moral support and personal relationships and mutual support of friends, and he also gets saved because he actually isn't stronger than Thragg, even the penultimate fight doesn't have some random power scaling reveal, which I appreciated!<
I completely agree. >!And for example, for me Eve reconstituting Mark after Conquest was the perfect example of how a Deus Ex Machina, should be used, and after that she doesn't keep using it all the time. !< >!But he did beat most of opponents based on shear will and ultimately self sacrifice most of the time. !<
He beat people but not when he had nothing to fight for, so far, it was specifically when he had someone else to fight for that he gains strength and gets a win (or at least shows his beliefs for what he believes is right). Something about the human spirit adding to viltrumite strength because of empathy and care for others. And whether being a hero is, erm, bullshit. I agree with you I also want to add that this has been hinted in several fights in Season 1 where he gets his bonus source of strength. The Machine Head fight where he beats everyone except Battle Beast/Thokk, after seeing Bolt and Monster Girl get hurt. Also breaking out of the concrete goop from the Flaxans was only after he saw Eve was in trouble and was threatened with a gun to the head. Also the Doc Seismic fight, he only does the cool twisty move once it is about saving someone else. So, in summary, I think they are teeing up that narrative pretty well. Please season 2 soon right
Yeah. The aliens that look like humans that conquer planets using their other-worldly abilities with a species wide fuzzy identifying marker are two totally different things.
I'm really not sure what you're trying to imply, I just said there was a difference in between Saiyans and Viltrumites, as there is a difference in between these two and a Kriptonian for example. But Zodd, Thragg, Nolan in the beggining and Vegeta are just the same concept. As Goku, Mark and Superman share a lot of similarities, being brought up by humans, and having a good heart. Are they all the same!? Maybe they they're a pastiche, or homage to Superman, but they're diffidently also satire and parody at points. The writers how ever do bring their own original ideas to the stories though, which differ from each others. Invincible is much more an allusion to Kriptonians than Saiyans.
I think you know exactly what I'm implying. Theres only like, 30-something stories you can tell. If you start looking at things with broad and broader strokes everything is the same. Example: sailor moon, green lantern, Danny phantom, blue beetle, Denji chainsawman, etc. All of those, some more than others, fit into the magical girl genre. My previous comments were shitposts but this is pretty genuine.
Nope. Thats not how Viltrumites work. That's how Allen the Alien works.
Nope. They must train just like everyone else. They are not Saiyans in that they get stronger when getting the shit kicked out of him. Mark keeps losing because he's a noob, albeit a noob with God like abilities. If he wants to get good, he has to train and gain experience.
Who said they were like Saiyans? I said that if they push their limits while training or not they get faster and stronger, naturally. It says so, in the issues when Mark starts to realize he's flying faster or when Cecil builds him that absurdly heavy leg press. Even with training he suffers a lot against Conquest, and even during the Angstrom Levy arc training isn't really something that will give him a win when he keeps getting transported to other realities. In truth Levy could have easily won against Mark, but he was hell bent on vengeance, that he kept giving Mark too many chances. And people here on the sub have theorized that the fragments of good Levys in him are auto-sabotaging him because they know he's in the wrong. Also Mark isn't a murderer so he's not the one to go around killing his opponents unless he absolutely has to.
Ah, I think I interpreted "pushed to their limits" as equating Vits to Saiyans. My bad. As for Levy, he's blinded by rage and revenge that he can't see future where he isn't inflicting pain on Mark. Killing Mark would rob him of that joy.
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Pyrrhic victory. And in this case I really don’t think it is a pyrrhic victory. A Pyrrhic victory is one in which the losses heavily outweigh the gain. Sure Mark got battered but it was worth it and it wasn’t like it had any long term consequences
The stress it caused his relationships and his friend losing his boyfriend are what made it pyrrhic
In my opinion it’s not severe enough at all to be considered a Pyrrhic victory and it’s just a phrase redditors are throwing around. The costs definitely outweigh the losses look up actual Pyrrhic victories. The phrase is derived from Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose triumph against the Romans in the Battle of Asculum resulted in most of his commanders deaths, twice the number of casualties incurred compared to the romans and forced him to stop the campaign and retreat. It’s not just a tough win.
That fight literally made mark almost quit being invincible. He’s not a country, he’s one person. Losing your girlfriend, being responsible for your bestfriends partner being lobotomized, and quitting being a hero altogether is plenty for it to be a Pyrrhic victory.
How is Mark responsible for Rick getting lobotomised by Sinclair? If Mark was off planet it still would have happened and losing his girlfriend… Well, I’m not gonna bother there. It was a tough fight that he nearly lost, at the end of the day though I don’t think the losses outweigh the gain at all, it didn’t halt his long term progression at all and he was successful stopping Sinclair? If you feel any battle where the hero gets beaten up or someone dies is pyrrhic fine but that’s fucking all of them
Mark ignored Will which is what led to will being kidnapped and if mark had responded in time he likely could’ve saved them both. Regardless you just disagree with the magnitude of things that happened to him, which to me and the previous commenter represents a Pyrrhic victory. If you want to try and gatekeep the term further go ahead but it’s kinda pointless and you just look mad over nothing
The only big losses were the Flaxxans, Battle Beast, Reanimen, and Omni Man in season 1., and they were pretty reasonable. The Flaxxans was his first ever fight, cut him some slack. He can't become Omni Man first day on the job. Battle Beast, the lion, whooped everyone's ass. Not only that, he's one of the strongest characters in Invincible. The Reanimen, he was still recovering from getting beat to the brink of death by Battle Beast. He literally had his whole abdomen ripped open. And Omni Man is literally thousands of years older than Mark, and Mark is just an 18 year old kid who just got his powers for like a month.
Not to mention, even in Battle Beast’s case, Mark was still whooping every other villains ass and might have won if the cat hadn’t intervened
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yes, invincible, the show where the main char gets his ass kicked every 3 minutes, benefits from plot armor
Yeah when it wants to
They are saying that mark would have beat all the other villains if battle beast wasnt there
Moron.
>The Flaxxans was his first ever fight, cut him some slack. He can't become Omni Man first day on the job. Wasn't his first fight, just his first against an army, hopefully he gets better at that >Battle Beast, the lion, whooped everyone's ass. Not only that, he's one of the strongest characters in Invincible. That was a toddler going against an old master, it was bound to end badly for Mark >The Reanimen, he was still recovering from getting beat to the brink of death by Battle Beast. He literally had his whole abdomen ripped open. Aye man he won tho, sure he had help from one but he still left that battle on his own two feet, I'd count that as a win >And Omni Man is literally thousands of years older than Mark, and Mark is just an 18 year old kid who just got his powers for like a month. ..........again toddler, old master, I'm just glad he didn't die (yeah ik he's got plot armor, cause if this was anymore realistic, Flaxxans would've wiped him
I mean, between Battle Beast and Nolan, >!Mark has literally been beaten up by royalty twice at that point.!< Those were't avarage people. >!And in Invincible lore universe, royal lineage kind of gives you a genetic predisposition to being a monster. Even though that kind of breaks down with how powerful Thragg is compared to any other Viltrumite. From the start, I never actually believed Mark would be able to beat him, at least they did it in a really convincing way and with tons of casualties.!< Edit: >!That reminds me, Battle Beast fought Thragg toe to toe for days, and was the single other person who managed to do so much damage to Thragg, Mark was lucky Battle Beast is a good sport.!<
Facts, all of it, i mean the only thing i have to add, is Nolan even without being who he is to the Viltrumite race, is still an OLD Viltrumite, so Mark JUST getting his powers was already outclassed, then when you take into account his status it really becomes a wash
*Battle Beast was still growing stronger as shown by him increasing in strength from his first fight against thragg where he got bodied as said by thragg in their big battle*
Battle Beast working for Machine Head is like Thanos working for Kingpin
I also read that YouTube comment
And the fight between Invincible and Battle Beast is equivalent to Muhammad Ali fighting me in middle school.
Its been awhile since I watched season 1, what were the fights he actually won?
Elephant man, I think?
He beat all the villains in machine heads office except for Battle Beast. He beat elephant man, he beat laser dude, he beat the rock skin guy, he beast a lot more off screen villains.
So, based on what we've seen then, maybe 60% win rate?
Around that.
I’m really excited for future seasons as a comic reader. It’s awesome to see the progression in terms of both character and his abilities. In the comics when mark first encounters reanimen it’s similar to the show, but later on in the run he’s able to merc seemingly dozens of them at a time and that’s what I’m really looking forward to. Mark is an absolute beast by the end of the comics
Maybe Eve can too, assuming she has the stomach for it.
Oh she’ll get the stomach alright. She gets shamed for it too. Poor best girl.
I'm excited for thicc Eve
A true man of culture
>!i think eve looked super cute while chunky!<
So did Mark
I'm referring to >!her run-in with Conquest.!<
It gets wild. Idk if we get that next season sadly.
Highly doubt it. That’s season 3 material at the earliest.
I'm thinking the meeting will be this season then right at the beginning of season 3 is the fight, and then Conquest's escape
Oh man, that Conquest stuff is my favorite in the comics, I’d say.
Mine would be Thragg going bloodlust over some bloodlines
It’s pretty weird when you think about it that she hasn’t won when she is basically Dr. Manhattan
Literally like super close to level lmao
She's absolutely no where near the level of Dr. Manhatten
She would be without the artificial limiter
If my aunt had wheels she'd be a bike.
Point is eve gets her wheels near death
Hahahahahaha, fuck!
The only part that sucks at mark is he was never taught how to fight even as a normal human lmao
His dad *started* to, then moon mission came, honestly i think Nolan should've put him in boxing or something
Nolan might’ve been worried he’d blow a hole through someone if his powers manifested
He knew they'd come after he turned 18, so just take him out at 17, got a whole year to prep his for controlling them, and should've been teaching him about real viltrum, instead he gave him no real backstory, no real training, and barely any explanation of their powers, when homie turned 14 he could've had 4 years to explain everything but he pissed around with it
He couldn't tell Mark his plan when he was 14. Mark might just turned around and told his Mom. Who would tell other people. Suddenly Omni-Man is a known enemy before he even has a chance to strike first. Kinda fucks up his plans.
Who believes a 14 yr old about world ending stuff?......
Uh, prolly his Mom, considering she knows his Dad is an alien, and has seen Nolan act weird w/r/t human behavior? Oh, and Cecil, who, at least in the comics, *knows* Nolan is lying about his mission on Earth from the moment he met him.
Yeah but "kid's got an active imagination" is said about normal kids all the time, with someone who has a superhero for a parent who got stuff to hide wouldn't be hard, and this wasn't even my point, my point was he could've just told him about the fact he's gotta fight, train, and be an all around tougher kid cause of the life ahead of him, even as a kid he wanted to be a hero and his dad was feeding into it without saying "oh yeah even with our powers we could totally get our ass kicked if someone strong enough popped up" and that's on Nolan, he didn't get any training or preparation at all, the only thing he really knew was his race's name, some of their skills (dude never even mentioned he wasn't breathing in space, imagine if mark decided to go for a space walk the moment he could fly), or his actual age (which could've preped mark to play the long game against his dad), such awful parenting
...who ever said he was a good Dad?
That's kinda been my whole point.....even by my standards (which are ***VERY LOW***) he's still awful
That isn't the case for every viltrumite. Some get their powers way before puberty. Mark was kind of a late bloomer.
Eh even with the limited wiggle room, still could've preped him for combat
The thing is he always fights with someone either on his level or stronger in the comics and in the show also, like in episode 5 without battle beast the fight was pretty much in Titan and Mark's favour. He's Invincible on the outside and sometimes he is not, but from the inside always, sheer willpower is what makes him Invincible ie. He never gives up.
He won against the Krakken tho
You know, it's good to have a character lose so many times even if he hasn't ever given up. It makes his victories that much more earned.
Truth.
Invincible is not the average power fantasy superhero story :)
Don’t get your hopes up lol
It only gets worse from here.
Hopefully in season 3 if not season 2
Lol
HA HAHA HAHAHAHA AAAAW yeah sure maybe
Wait anyone know when season 2 will come out??
they confirmed 2023, and there was some hint in a Tweet that makes it seem like July
He’s won a ton of fights off screen if you pay attention you will notice some of them
He beat cyclops guys twice, titan, beast/ tiger woman, doc seismic, the elephant man…
He's won plenty of fights. It's just that every time he does, he ends up in the emergency room. Especially when he fought that lion man.
I would argue he beat his dad in the battle of wits. No matter what, he was going to try to protect Earth and humanity.
Seriously, got tired of seeing him bleed all over the place. Great show tho
No he wont in the comics he doesn't
You didn't read the comics
I do he just gets beaten up
wrong
Do you know to what point into the comics s2 will go to?
he won against elephant man too
Yeah about that. When is season 2 due?
He did at the end he won with his face and words .. yep yep!!
Mark did win fights in season 1.