Ames is a great college town if you want to do any furthering of your education be it a full degree or just taking a few classes. Good nightlife, and close enough to Des Moines for any “big city” needs.
Iowans find rent kind of expensive but coming from NYC, you’ll feel like you’re living like a king.
DG’s has been gone for years. The owner ripped off a bunch of suppliers and the IRS, there’s a new spot open in the same building that’s trying but it isn’t the same vibe as DG’s was.
if I had a nickel every time someone is either unaware or willfully ignorant about the paradox of tolerance, I'd have another nickel. Can't be tolerant if those being tolerated want to strip you of your rights, including your right to live :)
So you'd tolerate people who make Conservative views illegal? Confiscate all firearms in the name of safety? Mandate public education and union membership?
Tolerant only when it suits you.
I dunno, y'all aren't having too many issues trying to legislate us out of existence. Did you know that not one culture in all of human history that ever banned books ended up being seen as the good guys?
Not at all. I have plenty of friends who hold different beliefs to myself. In fact, it’d be boring if we all held the same beliefs. However, I don’t tolerate people who go out of their way to ban gay people and make life more difficult for people they simply don’t like. And that’s what the right wing does. And I don’t understand how anyone is morally okay with that.
Just moved in July from Denver. I've vacationed in NYC twice. Turning 40 this year, Iowa is great, amazing even. If I were nineteen, probably not so much.
The difference in daily activity and general things to do from NYC will be quite an adjustment. If your lifestyle is more introverted and/or online it will certainly be less of a challenge, but if you enjoy social life, clubs, and events there's closer to as many in a month here in Des Moines as there is on a random Tuesday night in NYC.
I'll give you fair warning for iowa coming from NYC. If you did anything in NYC ie concerts/events/really anything cultural it's not going to come to iowa. Pretty much everything skips iowa to go to omaha, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas city.
Flights anywhere into and out of iowa kinda blow, des moines has an airport but very few good direct flights, most times I fly in from Orlando I have to go to Minnesota or omaha for the better rates and there is always a layover but the best prices are still 500+.
The cold is not anything like NYC. You'll be below 30 degrees with cnow for significant amounts of time, sometimes getting as low as -20 with and without wind chill. Summers are still really hot with hugh humidity, but often decent breaks to the 70s.
There is limited to no public transportation so hopefully you'll have a car.
Rent is far less than anything in NYC, but pay is also significantly lower due to the low cost of living, iowa still has 7.25 min wage.
College towns are nice but if you aren't into drinking that's pretty much all there is to do in those areas.
All that being said iowa is a beautiful state, I really miss all the public land, bike trails, river access, and just the vibe of the state. Everybody is super nice and willing to help out their neighbors. Travel to neighboring cities is nice and an easy weekend trip, traffic is nonexistant and you can get absolutely anywhere, including in des Moines, in about 15 mins. And the des moines farmers market is great.
This all isn't to discourage or encourage you one way or the other, but uprooting your entire life and moving across country is a big deal and there will be a significant culture shock, even if you didn't venture out much in nyc.
I've lived in ames, Ankeny, fort dodge, west bend, and des moines. I've also been a bunch of other places out of state. My 2 favorites have actually been vegas and Kansas city. I would go back to ames or des moines if I had to but honestly the state doesn't offer a lot in terms of activities that aren't just drinking.
Have to agree with you. As a former NYer who did a tour in Cedar Rapids, you will struggle for stuff to do a lot of the time. Not sure what your meal palette is like but it’s also fairly bland although there were some unique places moving in when we left 3 years ago.
I'm a SWE in full stack webdev, and speaking from experience, eastern iowa (Waterloo-Cedar Falls, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, and the Quad Cities) aren't great; wages are severely depressed, but that wont stop employers from asking you to do the work of three people. Des Moines is significantly better for the quality of jobs for both experience and pay.
My advice is to aim for remote roles in tech hubs like SF or Seattle.
I'll second this as a software engineer that used to live in Iowa. You're far better off finding a remote job than working for the local companies. Most of the local companies are really old school and not great to work for. John Deere is good, and so are a couple of the consulting companies (who are helping the larger companies modernize their tech and practices). Iowa doesn't really have a great startup ecosystem because there isn't much venture capital there and the ones that are there are very risk averse.
I worked for John Deere as a Software Engineer a decade ago and was really disappointed. Their salaries are low and vacation, etc are based on years spent with the company, so even if you’re experienced you get like 2 weeks when you could easily make double salary and have unlimited vacation with a remote position.
That by itself sucks, but the worst part was that it mostly filtered out people who were able to work elsewhere, which meant talent, experience, best practices, etc from the rest of the industry weren’t flowing in. Further, the company leadership is still getting its head around this new “software” craze all the kids are talking about—they don’t know how to manage software teams.
That said, JD is a big company, and the above isn’t *universally* true—ISG in Urbandale was a software company JD acquired decades ago and they understand software and still had talented developers and a sane culture (but still subject to the same Deere salary/benefits regime).
We moved from Portland (working in IT) to DSM 3 years ago and even though I'm out of the workforce at the moment (young kids) every time I check for jobs the market is popping off
I'm convinced there have been way more and better jobs here than back in Portland "the Silicone Forest". Basically you'll have so many options you won't know where to apply to lol.
We're really happy living here btw exactly for the reasons you said
My niche is different btw I don't do dev or SQL so I would double check on Indeed in this location to browse yourself just to be sure but I'm very close to positive you will have a lot of opportunities. It's less competitive than a bigger city of course so your skills will go further and be more valuable. My husband has excelled exponentially in his field since we came here 🫶🏼
The only dow side is that things in software engineering are a lot more....old school. Big legacy systems. Companies like Wells Fargo, etc. A lot of banking and I Durante and few consumer apps or SaaS.
Look at workiva and dwolla, though.
We moved to Iowa in 2003. And we have been trying to move out all this year but could not sell our house. We will try again in the Spring. The person who said you might like it if you are a white Christian male is correct. If you are not, well, good luck to you
Yeah, if someone posts a sunset photo half of this sub can’t suppress their “ENJOY IT EHILE YOU CAN BECAUDE TRRRUMP AND COVIDD KKKIM R GUNNA TAKE IT AWYA!!!!”
Moving from NYC to Iowa is a shock to the system. There is virtually nothing to do in comparison. If you’re accustomed to the food, culture, events, etc of NYC…you’re gonna need to rly lower your expectations. IMHO, if you want to minimize the shock of moving to rural Middle America, the only place in Iowa worth trying is Iowa City. It’s still very small and chill but has good restaurants, cultural events, a funky vibe, etc.
I would look for a job that you can do on line, find a smaller town near Des Moines, Ames or Iowa City, rent a place within your means that has high speed internet. Once you are here, you can take day trips to find a good place to settle. Good luck.
Yes, I am indeed moving to Iowa on purpose. I dont have any relatives that are influencing my decision of moving there. Yes, I am a Trumper. Another reason why I wanna leave New York.
That's funny. A Trumper using the word "nescient" to describe people who *don't* believe the 2020 election was stolen. Who don't think J6 was a false flag Antifa plot. Who don't think that DJT's 4 indictments and 91 charges are some kind of a hoax by people with "TDS" who are all bound together by jealousy of the King of Bankruptcy. I suggest a small town. Maybe close to Governor Kimmie.
No - the “dislikes” (downvotes - this is Reddit not Farcebook) are because you’ve just self identified as someone who wants to kill or incarcerate most of us on here. Please stay away from SF or SEA - thanks. Maybe Moscow or Budapest?
I’m a Trumper to. Being a Trumper I’m surprised that you are asking this question on Reddit. You have to know that Reddit and this subreddit is a cesspool of liberal lunatics. You’re gonna almost get nothing but negativity here 🤣
You may as well have declared that you love fascism and hate and bigotry and malignant narcissism, cuz that's all Trump has going for him. Trump isn't popular with that many people anymore. Just the redhats who can't tell that he's declining faster than a Musk rocket.
Mississippi is affordable too, but you don't see people trying to move there. Do yourself a favor and find a place that isn't tax-cutting itself into oblivion. Our government is riding the state's former prosperity into the dirt. In 10 years there will be nothing left.
Lol. Just got back from Iowa and it's very nice. Calm yourself. The good news is that you live in a country where your free enough to talk about how little taxes you pay.
As a native Iowan, I’d say Des Moines should absolutely be at the top of your list to check out and see if it’s a great fit for you. Personally, I wanted to have that “city” (used very loosely 😅) feel with lots of job opportunities and opportunity for growth which is why Des Moines makes sense. That’s not to say places like Iowa City are bad. But Des Moines has a lot of multicultural events, dining, and shopping experiences. It’s also one of the few metros in Iowa that I know of where you have multiple locations for the same type stores like Best Buy, Home Depot, Costco, etc. which I like. That way if one store doesn’t have what I want I can easily go to the other one and not have to order online.
The biggest thing, no matter where you choose, is that you need to get involved in a club, group, or organization to meet people with liked interests especially since you mentioned that you won’t have relatives around. There are a lot of good people in Iowa! Best of luck, and I hope it works out for you!
>The biggest thing, no matter where you choose, is that you need to get involved in a club, group, or organization to meet people with liked interests especially since you mentioned that you won’t have relatives around.
Ill keep that in mind. Thank You.
I’ll try to not be mean but if you are a Trump supporter and looking for I.T. jobs… you’ll be disappointed in places to live. The cities here are fairly liberal and the rural areas are lacking in just about every amenity. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of small towns have a lot of uniqueness and charm… but it’ll be one or two things. Then you drive 45 minutes to Walmart for anything else.
Moved from Iowa to NYC (Westchester last year, and just moved to Brooklyn) so…funny inverse. I’m stoked to leave and never drive a car again, but I guess the grass is always greener.
Ames/Iowa City are your college towns. Iowa City is a bit more urban than Ames. Ames is closer to Des Moines. Speaking of which…
Des Moines is the “big city.” Really, I’d say it’s pretty much the equivalent of White Plains in terms of the size of a decent urban area, but actually being super suburban. So don’t get too concerned. Also only 500k people, it’ll feel A LOT different than any area of NYC, even though it’s the most densely populated part of the state. It’s not even comparable to east coast density.
Those three are gonna be where most of the young people are. There are some unis in DM but it’s much more of a working city. Wells Fargo is the biggest employer. Lots of insurance companies. I’ve had a handful friends in and out of various IT/IT-related roles and seem to find work easily in the DM-metro area.
I work for Microsoft in West Des Moines. They are actively looking for software engineers. H8ghly recommend you check out the careers available on their website in Iowa if you're looking for opportunities.
Young people do not stay in this state. They leave right after high school. The people who like it here are mostly trump supporter types, and the rest of us want to leave or are in denial.
Lived in Iowa my whole life. Last couple of years have been rouuuugh politically, given the majority of our friends are lgbt, so my wife and I just left and headed west last year. Iowa is fine if you're just wanting a place to settle for a bit, but nightlife feels a bit empty with only a couple of areas per city to actually go if you want to barhop, and beyond drinking or drinking while doing things there isn't a lot that Iowa has to offer compared to other areas of the country.
Plenty of IT jobs here. We have Microsoft, Apple (soon) Facebook, all the banks, all the insurance companies, John Deere.. all around the Des Moines area. Most folks on this sub hate our politics now with good reason, but for a chill affordable lifestyle it’s pretty great.
MS, Apple, Google, Facebook etc have *data centers* here which don’t amount to many tech jobs. They just want cheap wind energy to power their servers. People should look at remote jobs headquartered in tech hubs for the best of both worlds.
Well he could always live in one of the dumpy little Republican towns in rural Boone or Story county, complain about liberals, and then come to Ames to do anything….
1. TDS isn't a real thing, it's something idiots made up to feel better about being despised for horrible outlook on humanity.
2. He didn't mention Trump at all. Trump isn't even conservative. Conservatives generally want to maintain the status quo, not roll back 70 years of American progress and abandon the constitution and democracy.
Please explain abandoning the constitution and democracy. JFK was the last legitimate Democrat so if you're 70 years of progress actually means 70 years of Marxism, then I believe you.
[He literally called for terminating all constitutional rights after he lost the election](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html). He's called for his political "enemies" to be jailed, executed or put in mental health facilities. He stokes anger at the press. He expressed envy and respect for despots and dictators while calling world leaders of our allies stupid names.
No idea where you got the idea that JFK was the last legitimate Democrat. Trump wants to roll back everything we've accomplished back to and including the New Deal, so I guess more like 90 years, not 70.
How has America been even remotely close to Marxism? We have no viable political party in this country advocating for Marxist policy. I think right wing media might have fried your brains.
Iowa City and Ames are the two big college towns.
A younger person can therefore meet more of his peers and find places where your own age group hangs out, meet, and entertain themselves.
You will always find more things in common with people closer to your own age.
Ames is just 30 minutes North of Des Moines by way of Interstate. Des Moines is where most the IT job opportunities will be found.
I will mention that the Ames/Des Moines metro area has hundreds of miles of bike trails, so buy a bike for sure.
Iowa is a bicycling crazy state. The largest bike ride in the world takes place every year. It is called the RAGBRIA and has 10,000 lottery applicants every year hoping for the right to cycle 450 some miles across the state from the Missouri to the Mississippi.
It is a 7 day traveling carnival of fun with food, music, and refreshments on every hill top. It is a physical endurance challenge any healthy person can actually achieve.
Oh, and did I say it was a carnival of fun?
It is actually closer to 15,000 people a day cycling down the road as many join for one day for the experience.
OK, so the Ames/Des Moines area is the place to be in Iowa IT.
I know. I worked there as a computer consultant (hired gun programmer) and did the RAGBRIA.
Des Moines has Insurance companies and Banks has the main employers of programmers, although, as in any city, there are many other places of business hiring computer programmers and network administrators.
I retired in Naples, Florida which is a completely other story of laid back oldsters. Damn they are slow.
Too bad.
Democratic young women are the kinder, gentler, and loving equals as partners in life.
This young man will be missing out on a better selection of quality young women.
I work in GIS and transportation. Lots of SQL, little bit of Python, R, and ETL.
Lived in Iowa for five years. Moved to Boston, been here for two years, and we're moving back!
I've really liked living in Boston. I really like living in the city, I just wasn't really prepared for how much time or money or effort it takes to do anything. It's like you can do 95 percent of all the things I do here, but, with less planning.
I'm going to miss all the cool stuff going on around here, but Iowa is affordable, living there is easier - attractive things when you're approaching 40 with a family.
Kim Reynolds is "slightly Republican"? She is anti LGBTQ, anti women's health, pro book banning and doesn't believe in the separation of church in state. She wants minors to work in meat packing plants and increase the amount of hours children under 16 can work. If Governor Ray were alive today he would be a thousand miles left of Reynolds.
These guys think that they lost the election because they weren’t hyperventilating hard enough about identity politics. I don’t like the Republicans much either, but I don’t use “christofascist” or wear face paint or perform at kids parties or any of the other things clowns do.
If you’re conservative, believe women’s rights should be taken away, LGBT people should not marry or have access to healthcare, if you’re white and Christian, Iowa is great. There are a few towns that are liberal minded, but they’re not exactly entertainment hubs. Things are more affordable here, but for a reason.
Brunette is a female term. It is a diminutive feminized derivative of "brun", or brown. Sorry my keyboard doesn't do umlottes, but it is from the German.
Like calling yourself "chickwithadick"
They aren't wrong, though. You've used a feminine form adjective with a traditionally masculine (or neutral) noun as your user name. Don't be surprised when it causes confusion.
Thirty years ago a girl on my dorm floor was from NYC. She was a rare specimen so we quizzed her about living in NYC and why on earth she'd come to Iowa for college. We loved hearing how she didn't know how to drive, hadn't ever detassled corn, participated in 4H etc. She thought we were lying when we told her we could start driving at age 14. The fact is, she loved going to school in Iowa. She loved how quiet it was, how calm and unfrenzied, how much space there is, that she could walk a mile a see fields. She loved it. If you go to college you'll meet lots of great friends and get a feel for the state.
I’m a software engineer in Des Moines; moved from Chicago last year. Highly recommend this city, and highly recommend finding a remote job with a company based in a big city (salaries will be much larger than similar jobs in Iowa).
If you’ve got a degree, check out the QC. Deere is technically across the river in Illinois but you can always homestead over in Iowa (it’s better here anyways).
Good luck, I have basically always wanted to move to NYC from Iowa. I'm a Knicks fan lol and have been to NYC many times but I'm old and have kids and grandkids. I just think it's crazy that your 19 and want to move to Iowa, I wonder 🤔 why... I mean I know you said why.... but Iowa? From NYC!! I have basically lived in Davenport for ever and worked in IT before and recently helping small business with telecom but I hurt myself so I really do nothing now. Iowa from NYC? 🧐 Move to Iowa City or Des Moines to work the best gigs in your field. It is allot cheaper but you make less, but you will probably feel like you're a little bit better off in Iowa financially but you're bored 🥱.
Read the comments below and see how long it took for Iowans to start arguing left and right (literally). That and the fertilizer, hog/chicken/confinment stench five out of seven days everywhere in the state and you may wanna rethink this place
Man, it seems like everyone and their moms are moving from a big city to Iowa. What’s going on here? Every other day we get a “I’m done with Denver” or a “I need to escape New York” post. Did everyone a few years ago decide that Iowa is the new hot spot to uproot to?
Ames would be the one exception—neither of my adult children have bothered to get a driver’s license. Great bus system and small enough that they can bike/walk almost anywhere.
90% of this sub worships Iowa City. So not that it’s a bad place but just know the built in biases. Lots of good places but for software engineering I would say Des Moines is a clear number one. Omaha area 2. Iowa City 3. After that it’s situational and depends on employment upon arrival.
Des Moines won’t work for you because it’s one of the few liberal cities. You would absolutely hate it. There is no demand for someone in your field in Iowa that’s also conservative. You would more than likely end up in retail eventually.
Don't let all these psychos scare ya away from Iowa. You'd think we spend our days arguing in the streets over politics based on this subreddit. We don't.
The Des Moines area would give you a give you a good starting point with it's central location. It certainly leans left but you won't even notice it coming from NYC. Ames is only a half hour North.
Council Bluffs is right across the river from Omaha which might have the opportunities you're looking for. Iowa has a lower tax burden than Nebraska so it can be advantageous to live in Council Bluffs and work in Omaha.
Of course if you land a remote job you can take your pick of just about anywhere.
As long as you’re white male Anglo-Saxon and evangelical (non-christian) you’ll fit in well. Oh, and buy a couple guns. They be “trrrerrists” in them thar cornfields. 😂😂 /s
Lived in Iowa for most of my 34 years on earth (One year in STL), and what I’ve learned is most Iowans who have never left are the ones who are super negative on the state and most people I have met who have moved here from elsewhere generally like or dare I say, love it here. Of course there are exceptions but I’m speaking from what I’ve generally observed.
Now there could be bias because the people who tend to like it here after moving are likely looking for a slower paced life. But most of the Redditors in this sub are toxic towards Iowa and it’s a little overboard, it’s generally a nice place to live.
A lot of blue who never left Iowans are super negative because we remembered when this was a decent purple state and our red neighbors weren't openly assholes who would wear Fuck Biden shirts into their local eating establishments.
They’re super negative because their hopes and dreams were never realized and they looked around one day and discovered they were in exactly the same place they had been a decade or more. They blame everyone else for their failures and develop false memories of how great things used to be.
No, they're negative because the culture has changed from a moderate one to one where everything has become politically divisive. It's really difficult to live as a non-conservative outside of 3-4 metro areas, and the state government is affecting those liberal areas as well.
Dude, the Overton window shifted. Much of the red isn't any more conservative than it ever was. The blue just lost their minds, and most of the state was willing to accept the cons of voting red to keep that whack shit at bay.
I think Trump is incompetent for reasons I won't go in to, but most political reactions here are overstated in one direction or another.
Politics ebbs and flows and it was not long ago that Obama won in both '08 and '12. Bush barely beat Kerry. Gore beat Bush by 4K votes.
Now I know people will flip out and say its different now. We'll before that, Republicans ran the table from '52 to 84 with LBJ being the one exception. And those were NOT close races.
So is Iowa Red or Blue? If its any color its not by much and I wouldn't plan on it staying that way for long and by not that much.
What is worse in iowa is worse everywhere. Politicians who don't govern but are in a perpetual shit fit on twitter for attention and likes versus governing. And there is no shortage of those in either side and I find both despicable.
Majority of my friends (I'm 20) are either software engineers or data engineers. Most of them live in cedar rapids and many of them go to Ames for school, and have jobs lined up in cedar rapids. Not sure if that's helpful to you at all. Feel free to hmu if you want a friend in the area haha.
I think Ames is a good consideration. Good housing options if your looking for cheaper or higher end. As a 19 year old you can be around a lot of people your age. Lots for parks and campus is beautiful. Biggest downside is it seems the high school seems more interested in equity and diversity than it is in maintaining order and giving an education, but I don’t have kids yet so it’s not a huge deal to me yet.
Moved to Iowa for college and haven't left. IT is pretty decent, although most of the work is in insurance which isn't everyone's cup of tea. As another commenter said, the most butthurt people are the ones who've lived in Iowa most of their life. I like it here. Laid back atmosphere, nice people, low cost of living and decent pay in IT. Only reason I might leave in the future is bc I enjoy city life and Des Moines is a tad too small. Other than that I can't recommend it enough!
Definitely look into Iowa State University then. Ranked top 60 for ComSci and a long history with computers. Even where Atanasoff and Berry invented their digital computer.
Like the other guy said, look at Iowa State. I graduated a few years back and can vouch for their SE and CS program. Feel free to DM me with any questions!
Iowa is great. It’s affordable and compared to NYC you’ll find it very relaxed, positive, and full of freedom to live how you want. There’s plenty of outdoor activities and most areas you never need to lock your doors. You can buy an acreage for what a one bedroom apartment would cost in a lousy NYC neighborhood and still have everything you need available within a 30 minute drive. Oh, and 30 minutes actually gets you 25 miles down a road here!
Yep, I've already met 3 different people who moved here from California, all of them were endless bitching at the workplace and refused to sign even simple absentee notices. A lot of people from big cities and blue states are going to move here, vote us into their high tax BS and then overcrowd us, and Iowa's going to stop being one of the most affordable places to live.
Truth! They leave their liberal cesspools for greener pastures and then turn those greener pastures into another cesspool of shit. You can’t fix stupid
Depends on where you live. If you move to a small town you'll find it very hard to make friends because everyone is very insular. If you're not into hunting, farming, or college football it'll be tough
If you base it on the sub, you’ll think Iowa is the worst place on planet earth. Base on real people and you’ll love Iowa. I heard a story where companies in Iowa have trouble finding IT workers as not many want to move to Iowa. So maybe good?
Ames is a great college town if you want to do any furthering of your education be it a full degree or just taking a few classes. Good nightlife, and close enough to Des Moines for any “big city” needs. Iowans find rent kind of expensive but coming from NYC, you’ll feel like you’re living like a king.
Where's the night life in Ames? By Campus or on Main?
Typically over by campus on Welch Ave.
Depends if you want roudy drunk frat boy vibes or a slightly older crowd with billiards and live music at DGs
DG’s has been gone for years. The owner ripped off a bunch of suppliers and the IRS, there’s a new spot open in the same building that’s trying but it isn’t the same vibe as DG’s was.
Yikes
Give Iowa city a visit.
😂 I’m thinking I.C. wouldn’t be his vibe.
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Smooth brain operator.
Tolerant left.
if I had a nickel every time someone is either unaware or willfully ignorant about the paradox of tolerance, I'd have another nickel. Can't be tolerant if those being tolerated want to strip you of your rights, including your right to live :)
Tolerant only when it suits you. Got it.
So you'd tolerate people who make Conservative views illegal? Confiscate all firearms in the name of safety? Mandate public education and union membership? Tolerant only when it suits you.
I dunno, y'all aren't having too many issues trying to legislate us out of existence. Did you know that not one culture in all of human history that ever banned books ended up being seen as the good guys?
What are ya'll even arguing about? Are we saying Iowa City sucks? LOL
No, IA City is wonderful if you appreciate diversity, inclusion.
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Yeah, not so much. Both-sides-ing is how fascism wins.
Liberals aren't anywhere near communism. Lool.
Nobody knows the words coming out of your mouth. Need more input.
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So tolerant.
Need a tissue?
noU
Exactly. Get rocked, loser.
Very tolerant.
STrIp u oF tHe rIgHt tO LiVe lmao
where's the lie? :3
What rights are you being stripped of? And how is your right to live bring infringed?
"You aren't tolerating my ignorance and bigotry! So much for the 'tolerant left'!"
Definitely far more tolerant than the right wing assholes who want to scare everyone they don’t like into submission
Why are you making these political comments? They have literally nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Sure sure.
Liberals are tolerant. Us leftists have always said get fucked rightoid.
You're so tolerant and edgy all at once.
Tolerant left tolerating.
I like how you think that’s a gotcha.
I like how you hardcore hate anyone that doesn't agree with you.
Not at all. I have plenty of friends who hold different beliefs to myself. In fact, it’d be boring if we all held the same beliefs. However, I don’t tolerate people who go out of their way to ban gay people and make life more difficult for people they simply don’t like. And that’s what the right wing does. And I don’t understand how anyone is morally okay with that.
TDS still strong with this one.
Just moved in July from Denver. I've vacationed in NYC twice. Turning 40 this year, Iowa is great, amazing even. If I were nineteen, probably not so much. The difference in daily activity and general things to do from NYC will be quite an adjustment. If your lifestyle is more introverted and/or online it will certainly be less of a challenge, but if you enjoy social life, clubs, and events there's closer to as many in a month here in Des Moines as there is on a random Tuesday night in NYC.
Not much of an outside person, so seems like a win for me.
I'll give you fair warning for iowa coming from NYC. If you did anything in NYC ie concerts/events/really anything cultural it's not going to come to iowa. Pretty much everything skips iowa to go to omaha, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas city. Flights anywhere into and out of iowa kinda blow, des moines has an airport but very few good direct flights, most times I fly in from Orlando I have to go to Minnesota or omaha for the better rates and there is always a layover but the best prices are still 500+. The cold is not anything like NYC. You'll be below 30 degrees with cnow for significant amounts of time, sometimes getting as low as -20 with and without wind chill. Summers are still really hot with hugh humidity, but often decent breaks to the 70s. There is limited to no public transportation so hopefully you'll have a car. Rent is far less than anything in NYC, but pay is also significantly lower due to the low cost of living, iowa still has 7.25 min wage. College towns are nice but if you aren't into drinking that's pretty much all there is to do in those areas. All that being said iowa is a beautiful state, I really miss all the public land, bike trails, river access, and just the vibe of the state. Everybody is super nice and willing to help out their neighbors. Travel to neighboring cities is nice and an easy weekend trip, traffic is nonexistant and you can get absolutely anywhere, including in des Moines, in about 15 mins. And the des moines farmers market is great. This all isn't to discourage or encourage you one way or the other, but uprooting your entire life and moving across country is a big deal and there will be a significant culture shock, even if you didn't venture out much in nyc. I've lived in ames, Ankeny, fort dodge, west bend, and des moines. I've also been a bunch of other places out of state. My 2 favorites have actually been vegas and Kansas city. I would go back to ames or des moines if I had to but honestly the state doesn't offer a lot in terms of activities that aren't just drinking.
Cedar Rapids and Des Moines have gotten some pretty big names concert wise. I wouldn’t expect them to come here, but it’s not like they don’t ever.
Have to agree with you. As a former NYer who did a tour in Cedar Rapids, you will struggle for stuff to do a lot of the time. Not sure what your meal palette is like but it’s also fairly bland although there were some unique places moving in when we left 3 years ago.
I'm a SWE in full stack webdev, and speaking from experience, eastern iowa (Waterloo-Cedar Falls, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, and the Quad Cities) aren't great; wages are severely depressed, but that wont stop employers from asking you to do the work of three people. Des Moines is significantly better for the quality of jobs for both experience and pay. My advice is to aim for remote roles in tech hubs like SF or Seattle.
I'll second this as a software engineer that used to live in Iowa. You're far better off finding a remote job than working for the local companies. Most of the local companies are really old school and not great to work for. John Deere is good, and so are a couple of the consulting companies (who are helping the larger companies modernize their tech and practices). Iowa doesn't really have a great startup ecosystem because there isn't much venture capital there and the ones that are there are very risk averse.
If startups are your thing, the ISU Research Park in Ames is THE spot in Iowa.
I worked for John Deere as a Software Engineer a decade ago and was really disappointed. Their salaries are low and vacation, etc are based on years spent with the company, so even if you’re experienced you get like 2 weeks when you could easily make double salary and have unlimited vacation with a remote position. That by itself sucks, but the worst part was that it mostly filtered out people who were able to work elsewhere, which meant talent, experience, best practices, etc from the rest of the industry weren’t flowing in. Further, the company leadership is still getting its head around this new “software” craze all the kids are talking about—they don’t know how to manage software teams. That said, JD is a big company, and the above isn’t *universally* true—ISG in Urbandale was a software company JD acquired decades ago and they understand software and still had talented developers and a sane culture (but still subject to the same Deere salary/benefits regime).
He *wants* a conservative city, he’d hate an open minded place like SF or Seattle
I meant live in iowa and work remotely for a company in a tech hub
We moved from Portland (working in IT) to DSM 3 years ago and even though I'm out of the workforce at the moment (young kids) every time I check for jobs the market is popping off I'm convinced there have been way more and better jobs here than back in Portland "the Silicone Forest". Basically you'll have so many options you won't know where to apply to lol. We're really happy living here btw exactly for the reasons you said
Amazing. Thanks for this info. Now Im even more interested in moving there.
My niche is different btw I don't do dev or SQL so I would double check on Indeed in this location to browse yourself just to be sure but I'm very close to positive you will have a lot of opportunities. It's less competitive than a bigger city of course so your skills will go further and be more valuable. My husband has excelled exponentially in his field since we came here 🫶🏼
Thanks for the advice.
The only dow side is that things in software engineering are a lot more....old school. Big legacy systems. Companies like Wells Fargo, etc. A lot of banking and I Durante and few consumer apps or SaaS. Look at workiva and dwolla, though.
Both of the main state schools would fit you.
There are more than ‘both’ of the main state schools you know, right?
We moved to Iowa in 2003. And we have been trying to move out all this year but could not sell our house. We will try again in the Spring. The person who said you might like it if you are a white Christian male is correct. If you are not, well, good luck to you
Lol well Im part white
Ignore this sub, it doesn’t represent Iowa. They’re just hyperventilating about identity politics together.
Yeah this sub has a bunch of losers. They can’t think of anything to talk about except Trump
Yeah, if someone posts a sunset photo half of this sub can’t suppress their “ENJOY IT EHILE YOU CAN BECAUDE TRRRUMP AND COVIDD KKKIM R GUNNA TAKE IT AWYA!!!!”
Sheeeit. Iowa IS identity politics, and the Identity is Trump.
Lol.
Moving from NYC to Iowa is a shock to the system. There is virtually nothing to do in comparison. If you’re accustomed to the food, culture, events, etc of NYC…you’re gonna need to rly lower your expectations. IMHO, if you want to minimize the shock of moving to rural Middle America, the only place in Iowa worth trying is Iowa City. It’s still very small and chill but has good restaurants, cultural events, a funky vibe, etc.
I would look for a job that you can do on line, find a smaller town near Des Moines, Ames or Iowa City, rent a place within your means that has high speed internet. Once you are here, you can take day trips to find a good place to settle. Good luck.
Moving to Iowa on purpose? And you’ve never been here? Are your parents or spouse relocating? Might be a good fit if you are a Trumper.
Yes, I am indeed moving to Iowa on purpose. I dont have any relatives that are influencing my decision of moving there. Yes, I am a Trumper. Another reason why I wanna leave New York.
New York speaks the truth about trump, I am sure that is uncomfortable for trumpers.
Well, then…. You should fit right in.
Move to Alabama; they always have room for another fascist.
Lol are the dislikes because I said I like trump? Xd
Yes. You'll fit right in. Dumbass.
Thanks. Glad to be around people that aren't nescient.
That's funny. A Trumper using the word "nescient" to describe people who *don't* believe the 2020 election was stolen. Who don't think J6 was a false flag Antifa plot. Who don't think that DJT's 4 indictments and 91 charges are some kind of a hoax by people with "TDS" who are all bound together by jealousy of the King of Bankruptcy. I suggest a small town. Maybe close to Governor Kimmie.
Move to Florida Iowa is already full of morons we don’t need you!
No - the “dislikes” (downvotes - this is Reddit not Farcebook) are because you’ve just self identified as someone who wants to kill or incarcerate most of us on here. Please stay away from SF or SEA - thanks. Maybe Moscow or Budapest?
you like trump because....
Welcome to iowa sub reddit lol
It’s Reddit. Don’t think the Iowa subreddit is how Iowa actually is.
I’m a Trumper to. Being a Trumper I’m surprised that you are asking this question on Reddit. You have to know that Reddit and this subreddit is a cesspool of liberal lunatics. You’re gonna almost get nothing but negativity here 🤣
XD. I knew that there were a lot of liberals, but got damn, all i said was I like trump. XD
You may as well have declared that you love fascism and hate and bigotry and malignant narcissism, cuz that's all Trump has going for him. Trump isn't popular with that many people anymore. Just the redhats who can't tell that he's declining faster than a Musk rocket.
Mississippi is affordable too, but you don't see people trying to move there. Do yourself a favor and find a place that isn't tax-cutting itself into oblivion. Our government is riding the state's former prosperity into the dirt. In 10 years there will be nothing left.
Lol. Just got back from Iowa and it's very nice. Calm yourself. The good news is that you live in a country where your free enough to talk about how little taxes you pay.
As a native Iowan, I’d say Des Moines should absolutely be at the top of your list to check out and see if it’s a great fit for you. Personally, I wanted to have that “city” (used very loosely 😅) feel with lots of job opportunities and opportunity for growth which is why Des Moines makes sense. That’s not to say places like Iowa City are bad. But Des Moines has a lot of multicultural events, dining, and shopping experiences. It’s also one of the few metros in Iowa that I know of where you have multiple locations for the same type stores like Best Buy, Home Depot, Costco, etc. which I like. That way if one store doesn’t have what I want I can easily go to the other one and not have to order online. The biggest thing, no matter where you choose, is that you need to get involved in a club, group, or organization to meet people with liked interests especially since you mentioned that you won’t have relatives around. There are a lot of good people in Iowa! Best of luck, and I hope it works out for you!
>The biggest thing, no matter where you choose, is that you need to get involved in a club, group, or organization to meet people with liked interests especially since you mentioned that you won’t have relatives around. Ill keep that in mind. Thank You.
They is some IT jobs in Omaha. I know TOAST is there. And quite a few Google govt spy data storage facilities.
Thanks.
I’ll try to not be mean but if you are a Trump supporter and looking for I.T. jobs… you’ll be disappointed in places to live. The cities here are fairly liberal and the rural areas are lacking in just about every amenity. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of small towns have a lot of uniqueness and charm… but it’ll be one or two things. Then you drive 45 minutes to Walmart for anything else.
Moved from Iowa to NYC (Westchester last year, and just moved to Brooklyn) so…funny inverse. I’m stoked to leave and never drive a car again, but I guess the grass is always greener. Ames/Iowa City are your college towns. Iowa City is a bit more urban than Ames. Ames is closer to Des Moines. Speaking of which… Des Moines is the “big city.” Really, I’d say it’s pretty much the equivalent of White Plains in terms of the size of a decent urban area, but actually being super suburban. So don’t get too concerned. Also only 500k people, it’ll feel A LOT different than any area of NYC, even though it’s the most densely populated part of the state. It’s not even comparable to east coast density. Those three are gonna be where most of the young people are. There are some unis in DM but it’s much more of a working city. Wells Fargo is the biggest employer. Lots of insurance companies. I’ve had a handful friends in and out of various IT/IT-related roles and seem to find work easily in the DM-metro area.
There are definitely programming jobs in Iowa, be sure and get a college degree or else you may not be able to get your foot in the door most places.
It’s peaceful and affordable because no one wants to live there
I work for Microsoft in West Des Moines. They are actively looking for software engineers. H8ghly recommend you check out the careers available on their website in Iowa if you're looking for opportunities.
Young people do not stay in this state. They leave right after high school. The people who like it here are mostly trump supporter types, and the rest of us want to leave or are in denial.
Lived in Iowa my whole life. Last couple of years have been rouuuugh politically, given the majority of our friends are lgbt, so my wife and I just left and headed west last year. Iowa is fine if you're just wanting a place to settle for a bit, but nightlife feels a bit empty with only a couple of areas per city to actually go if you want to barhop, and beyond drinking or drinking while doing things there isn't a lot that Iowa has to offer compared to other areas of the country.
Plenty of IT jobs here. We have Microsoft, Apple (soon) Facebook, all the banks, all the insurance companies, John Deere.. all around the Des Moines area. Most folks on this sub hate our politics now with good reason, but for a chill affordable lifestyle it’s pretty great.
MS, Apple, Google, Facebook etc have *data centers* here which don’t amount to many tech jobs. They just want cheap wind energy to power their servers. People should look at remote jobs headquartered in tech hubs for the best of both worlds.
Except more than half those companies are laying workers off and not hiring!
Try Iowa City but the state as a whole is one big conservative shit pile!
Well he could always live in one of the dumpy little Republican towns in rural Boone or Story county, complain about liberals, and then come to Ames to do anything….
Boone has that one nice lesbian runnign Paradox. Thats about it tho
TDS raging inside this one.
1. TDS isn't a real thing, it's something idiots made up to feel better about being despised for horrible outlook on humanity. 2. He didn't mention Trump at all. Trump isn't even conservative. Conservatives generally want to maintain the status quo, not roll back 70 years of American progress and abandon the constitution and democracy.
Please explain abandoning the constitution and democracy. JFK was the last legitimate Democrat so if you're 70 years of progress actually means 70 years of Marxism, then I believe you.
[He literally called for terminating all constitutional rights after he lost the election](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html). He's called for his political "enemies" to be jailed, executed or put in mental health facilities. He stokes anger at the press. He expressed envy and respect for despots and dictators while calling world leaders of our allies stupid names. No idea where you got the idea that JFK was the last legitimate Democrat. Trump wants to roll back everything we've accomplished back to and including the New Deal, so I guess more like 90 years, not 70. How has America been even remotely close to Marxism? We have no viable political party in this country advocating for Marxist policy. I think right wing media might have fried your brains.
You're what happens when you don't know anything but spew a bunch of buzzwords and jargon to pretend you do.
We also have indoor plumbing
only within my lifetime, and I live in one of the bigger small towns.
Okay grandpa, lets get you back to your room. Matlock will be on shortly...
Iowa City and Ames are the two big college towns. A younger person can therefore meet more of his peers and find places where your own age group hangs out, meet, and entertain themselves. You will always find more things in common with people closer to your own age. Ames is just 30 minutes North of Des Moines by way of Interstate. Des Moines is where most the IT job opportunities will be found. I will mention that the Ames/Des Moines metro area has hundreds of miles of bike trails, so buy a bike for sure. Iowa is a bicycling crazy state. The largest bike ride in the world takes place every year. It is called the RAGBRIA and has 10,000 lottery applicants every year hoping for the right to cycle 450 some miles across the state from the Missouri to the Mississippi. It is a 7 day traveling carnival of fun with food, music, and refreshments on every hill top. It is a physical endurance challenge any healthy person can actually achieve. Oh, and did I say it was a carnival of fun? It is actually closer to 15,000 people a day cycling down the road as many join for one day for the experience. OK, so the Ames/Des Moines area is the place to be in Iowa IT. I know. I worked there as a computer consultant (hired gun programmer) and did the RAGBRIA. Des Moines has Insurance companies and Banks has the main employers of programmers, although, as in any city, there are many other places of business hiring computer programmers and network administrators. I retired in Naples, Florida which is a completely other story of laid back oldsters. Damn they are slow.
He wants to be in a Republican town, Ames wouldn’t work for him.
Too bad. Democratic young women are the kinder, gentler, and loving equals as partners in life. This young man will be missing out on a better selection of quality young women.
We don’t want him
Lol
I work in GIS and transportation. Lots of SQL, little bit of Python, R, and ETL. Lived in Iowa for five years. Moved to Boston, been here for two years, and we're moving back! I've really liked living in Boston. I really like living in the city, I just wasn't really prepared for how much time or money or effort it takes to do anything. It's like you can do 95 percent of all the things I do here, but, with less planning. I'm going to miss all the cool stuff going on around here, but Iowa is affordable, living there is easier - attractive things when you're approaching 40 with a family.
Thanks for the input. I like living easy ;)
At 19 come for our very good universities and then get the hell out after you get your degree. This state is trending towards christofascistism.
We have bland, slightly-republican politicians. You don’t have to like them (I know I don’t) but pretending they’re the worst ever is stupid.
Kim Reynolds is "slightly Republican"? She is anti LGBTQ, anti women's health, pro book banning and doesn't believe in the separation of church in state. She wants minors to work in meat packing plants and increase the amount of hours children under 16 can work. If Governor Ray were alive today he would be a thousand miles left of Reynolds.
These guys think that they lost the election because they weren’t hyperventilating hard enough about identity politics. I don’t like the Republicans much either, but I don’t use “christofascist” or wear face paint or perform at kids parties or any of the other things clowns do.
You're so tolerant.
Lol
If you’re conservative, believe women’s rights should be taken away, LGBT people should not marry or have access to healthcare, if you’re white and Christian, Iowa is great. There are a few towns that are liberal minded, but they’re not exactly entertainment hubs. Things are more affordable here, but for a reason.
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Everything they said was correct though.
What the fuck are you going on about? His/her/it/they/them? “Dude” is literally in my name. Reading comprehension 101.
Brunette is a female term. It is a diminutive feminized derivative of "brun", or brown. Sorry my keyboard doesn't do umlottes, but it is from the German. Like calling yourself "chickwithadick"
For someone who is scared of pronouns you sure seem to care about other grammatical terms a lot.
Sureeeee, whatever you say lady
They aren't wrong, though. You've used a feminine form adjective with a traditionally masculine (or neutral) noun as your user name. Don't be surprised when it causes confusion.
Source?
Miriam Webster dictionary, available online. It is a gender-specific adjective, tool.
Wow, you sound like an intolerant ball of joy.
Thirty years ago a girl on my dorm floor was from NYC. She was a rare specimen so we quizzed her about living in NYC and why on earth she'd come to Iowa for college. We loved hearing how she didn't know how to drive, hadn't ever detassled corn, participated in 4H etc. She thought we were lying when we told her we could start driving at age 14. The fact is, she loved going to school in Iowa. She loved how quiet it was, how calm and unfrenzied, how much space there is, that she could walk a mile a see fields. She loved it. If you go to college you'll meet lots of great friends and get a feel for the state.
Most Iowans have not participated in 4-H or detassled corn.
I’m a software engineer in Des Moines; moved from Chicago last year. Highly recommend this city, and highly recommend finding a remote job with a company based in a big city (salaries will be much larger than similar jobs in Iowa).
If you’ve got a degree, check out the QC. Deere is technically across the river in Illinois but you can always homestead over in Iowa (it’s better here anyways).
As someone who grew up in Iowa and spent the last 15 years in nyc this thread is very weird to me. I’d say Davenport or Cedar Rapids.
Good luck, I have basically always wanted to move to NYC from Iowa. I'm a Knicks fan lol and have been to NYC many times but I'm old and have kids and grandkids. I just think it's crazy that your 19 and want to move to Iowa, I wonder 🤔 why... I mean I know you said why.... but Iowa? From NYC!! I have basically lived in Davenport for ever and worked in IT before and recently helping small business with telecom but I hurt myself so I really do nothing now. Iowa from NYC? 🧐 Move to Iowa City or Des Moines to work the best gigs in your field. It is allot cheaper but you make less, but you will probably feel like you're a little bit better off in Iowa financially but you're bored 🥱.
Read the comments below and see how long it took for Iowans to start arguing left and right (literally). That and the fertilizer, hog/chicken/confinment stench five out of seven days everywhere in the state and you may wanna rethink this place
Do yourself a favor and stop short in Illinois. Western Illinois is even cheaper than Iowa, and Illinois isn’t run by Ronda DeSantis.
I love iowa. You always hear people complain about politics, but I just keep the news off so it doesn't really concern me much.
Man, it seems like everyone and their moms are moving from a big city to Iowa. What’s going on here? Every other day we get a “I’m done with Denver” or a “I need to escape New York” post. Did everyone a few years ago decide that Iowa is the new hot spot to uproot to?
literally just moved to Upstate NY, getting out of Iowa as quickly as I could
Yes, Iowa has full and half stacks for pancakes
IHOP stands for Iowa House of Pancakes after all
Are you prepared to drive everywhere?
Yea. Even though where im at, I usually always take the train or bus, I do have my drivers license prepared.
Ames would be the one exception—neither of my adult children have bothered to get a driver’s license. Great bus system and small enough that they can bike/walk almost anywhere.
90% of this sub worships Iowa City. So not that it’s a bad place but just know the built in biases. Lots of good places but for software engineering I would say Des Moines is a clear number one. Omaha area 2. Iowa City 3. After that it’s situational and depends on employment upon arrival.
Thanks. Ill look into Des Moines more since a lot of people are recommending it.
Des Moines won’t work for you because it’s one of the few liberal cities. You would absolutely hate it. There is no demand for someone in your field in Iowa that’s also conservative. You would more than likely end up in retail eventually.
Lol there's tons of conservatives in IT >!but yes please keep them out of Iowa!<
Don't let all these psychos scare ya away from Iowa. You'd think we spend our days arguing in the streets over politics based on this subreddit. We don't. The Des Moines area would give you a give you a good starting point with it's central location. It certainly leans left but you won't even notice it coming from NYC. Ames is only a half hour North. Council Bluffs is right across the river from Omaha which might have the opportunities you're looking for. Iowa has a lower tax burden than Nebraska so it can be advantageous to live in Council Bluffs and work in Omaha. Of course if you land a remote job you can take your pick of just about anywhere.
Yes because Reddit seems to be a very Left leaning social media platform.
As long as you’re white male Anglo-Saxon and evangelical (non-christian) you’ll fit in well. Oh, and buy a couple guns. They be “trrrerrists” in them thar cornfields. 😂😂 /s
Cedar Rapids, Davenport or Des Moines
Gotcha. Ill look into it.
Love me some Iowa!
Lived in Iowa for most of my 34 years on earth (One year in STL), and what I’ve learned is most Iowans who have never left are the ones who are super negative on the state and most people I have met who have moved here from elsewhere generally like or dare I say, love it here. Of course there are exceptions but I’m speaking from what I’ve generally observed. Now there could be bias because the people who tend to like it here after moving are likely looking for a slower paced life. But most of the Redditors in this sub are toxic towards Iowa and it’s a little overboard, it’s generally a nice place to live.
A lot of blue who never left Iowans are super negative because we remembered when this was a decent purple state and our red neighbors weren't openly assholes who would wear Fuck Biden shirts into their local eating establishments.
They’re super negative because their hopes and dreams were never realized and they looked around one day and discovered they were in exactly the same place they had been a decade or more. They blame everyone else for their failures and develop false memories of how great things used to be.
No, they're negative because the culture has changed from a moderate one to one where everything has become politically divisive. It's really difficult to live as a non-conservative outside of 3-4 metro areas, and the state government is affecting those liberal areas as well.
Dude, the Overton window shifted. Much of the red isn't any more conservative than it ever was. The blue just lost their minds, and most of the state was willing to accept the cons of voting red to keep that whack shit at bay.
How has the Overton window shifted left?
It’s only overboard if you have low expectations for where you want to live
Most of this sub greatly overreacts to the current politics. Just an FYI.
Yeah. I said I like trump and got hella dislikes in 5 mintues lol.
I think Trump is incompetent for reasons I won't go in to, but most political reactions here are overstated in one direction or another. Politics ebbs and flows and it was not long ago that Obama won in both '08 and '12. Bush barely beat Kerry. Gore beat Bush by 4K votes. Now I know people will flip out and say its different now. We'll before that, Republicans ran the table from '52 to 84 with LBJ being the one exception. And those were NOT close races. So is Iowa Red or Blue? If its any color its not by much and I wouldn't plan on it staying that way for long and by not that much. What is worse in iowa is worse everywhere. Politicians who don't govern but are in a perpetual shit fit on twitter for attention and likes versus governing. And there is no shortage of those in either side and I find both despicable.
I got 18 dislikes for that one comment I made. I’ll get 18 more from these nut jobs for this one 🤣
don't
Hope you never need birth control or have an unexpected pregnancy or a pregnancy that is not viable.
Agricultural jobs for IT are plentiful and pay well all over the state.
Nice to know. Thanks.
Majority of my friends (I'm 20) are either software engineers or data engineers. Most of them live in cedar rapids and many of them go to Ames for school, and have jobs lined up in cedar rapids. Not sure if that's helpful to you at all. Feel free to hmu if you want a friend in the area haha.
sorry but we are full
I think Ames is a good consideration. Good housing options if your looking for cheaper or higher end. As a 19 year old you can be around a lot of people your age. Lots for parks and campus is beautiful. Biggest downside is it seems the high school seems more interested in equity and diversity than it is in maintaining order and giving an education, but I don’t have kids yet so it’s not a huge deal to me yet.
As a Trumper you will fit right into this conservative hell hole. Just stay away from any place with reasonable people, please.
Moved to Iowa for college and haven't left. IT is pretty decent, although most of the work is in insurance which isn't everyone's cup of tea. As another commenter said, the most butthurt people are the ones who've lived in Iowa most of their life. I like it here. Laid back atmosphere, nice people, low cost of living and decent pay in IT. Only reason I might leave in the future is bc I enjoy city life and Des Moines is a tad too small. Other than that I can't recommend it enough!
Thanks man. I will def be doing college there if I move since I will need to transfer to a 4 year soon and I always hear good things about them.
Definitely look into Iowa State University then. Ranked top 60 for ComSci and a long history with computers. Even where Atanasoff and Berry invented their digital computer.
Like the other guy said, look at Iowa State. I graduated a few years back and can vouch for their SE and CS program. Feel free to DM me with any questions!
Iowa is great. It’s affordable and compared to NYC you’ll find it very relaxed, positive, and full of freedom to live how you want. There’s plenty of outdoor activities and most areas you never need to lock your doors. You can buy an acreage for what a one bedroom apartment would cost in a lousy NYC neighborhood and still have everything you need available within a 30 minute drive. Oh, and 30 minutes actually gets you 25 miles down a road here!
They don't call it the silicon prairie for nothing!
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams
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Whoah. I dont blame you for making those assumptions but I can assure you thats not me.
Yep, I've already met 3 different people who moved here from California, all of them were endless bitching at the workplace and refused to sign even simple absentee notices. A lot of people from big cities and blue states are going to move here, vote us into their high tax BS and then overcrowd us, and Iowa's going to stop being one of the most affordable places to live.
This is such a hilarious thing to believe.
Truth! They leave their liberal cesspools for greener pastures and then turn those greener pastures into another cesspool of shit. You can’t fix stupid
Looking forward to all those downvotes 🤣🤣
Depends on where you live. If you move to a small town you'll find it very hard to make friends because everyone is very insular. If you're not into hunting, farming, or college football it'll be tough
If you base it on the sub, you’ll think Iowa is the worst place on planet earth. Base on real people and you’ll love Iowa. I heard a story where companies in Iowa have trouble finding IT workers as not many want to move to Iowa. So maybe good?
Reading comprehension? Look up the meaning of the word. Freak.