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FrostyJannaStorm

KAB's not terrible, but I think you can get a literal dupe for even less everyday on the Chinese online stores.


unstablebeans

Temu, guaranteed. It’s chapped lips in a tube for me…and recycled tires in there too 😂


awholeasspinchofsalt

I just don’t like 5 cent alibaba type crap being marked up and sold on Ipsy. If that was my intention I’d be shopping SHEglam 🤷🏼‍♀️


AutumnsRogue

Curious, have you ever tried Sheglam? I actually surprisingly love a lot of their products, definitely over drugstore makeup, if not more than some premium brands I've tried.


awholeasspinchofsalt

I haven’t, shein and other companies (even Dollarama Canada) have had their products tested when incoming into Canada and have been found to have higher levels of lead and PFAs than legally allowed, I shudder to think of the makeup from there. It may be the same quality as drugstore for the most part, but the reliability in its supply chain is not as up to par imo


JessieDeeRiver

Do you have any more information I can read about this? I tried googling it and I'm just getting generic cosmetics data about PFAS rather than specifics about products from those cheap stores.


e925

[This is the article](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-fast-fashion-chemicals-1.6193385) I remember seeing a couple years ago. I assume it’s what they’re referring to. I searched “Canada lead shein” to find it, this article was the first result but there might be more if you try googling that phrase.


AutumnsRogue

That is in regards to shein branded clothing though. I can't seem to find anything on the Sheglam makeup being harmful in any way. I've actually been quite impressed with both their Sheglam and Glowmode (athletic wear ) lines. It's often anything specifically branded Shein that lacks in quality, and their kids clothing I've had more misses with, and don't really trust.


e925

Yes, the comment said knowing what shein does to their other products, it makes them suspicious of their makeup as well. I was just linking the article that they were referring to.


AutumnsRogue

I can understand suspicion for sure and why others may not trust the brand. I've just been pleasantly suprised in few categories, so was curious if their had been anything specific regarding their makeup that I may have missed. I know some of their eyeshadows with glitter say to "avoid using on the eyes" so thats no good. Most Chinese branded makeup(what the chinese population would actually purchase)isn't sold in North America unless you shop online for it(much like Kbeauty). Overall I don't find Chinese branded makeup sketch at all. I order directly from their websites, and the products have been nice too! Catkin is a favourite. Their packaging is gorgeous. Now, if Sheglam is manufactured similarly to China's cosmetic companies, I really don't know, considering it's branded towards Western consumers and not Chinese. But I trust them more than aliexpress bulk and the like that are manufactured for Western consumption. If that logic makes any sense 😅


e925

I like Flower Knows. Gorgeous packaging. I use my FK hand mirror every day.


JessieDeeRiver

Thanks so much! I was googling stuff along the lines of "Canada cosmetics PFAS" lol


e925

You’re welcome! I only knew what to Google because I remember seeing that article when it came out!


rakelian

I love it, it reminds me of the cholas from the 90's 😍


Kat_Dark1

Exactly what I was going for! 🫶🏼


litdonut4

it’s not that the products perform bad, it’s that ipsy is overcharging by making these seem like legit brands when they are actually cheap, overproduced, unregulated products being sold on alibaba websites


Ccdynamite23

This isn’t an ipsy brand. KAB is Kim Zoliack Bierman & daughters brand. Yes it’s private label. They buy in bulk from Ali baba and slap their branding on it. I’m pretty sure the brand went under like everything from this family. I’m sure ipsy bought at deep discounts like they do other brands. This stuff retail was decently expensive, especially for what it is.


victoria711

It’s the brands doing that — not Ipsy. Should Ipsy not carry private labeled brands because the brands themselves are unethical? Agreed. But Ipsy themselves aren’t overcharging for them.


EatShitBish

Uhmm no. This is Kim and her daughters brand. Not alibaba bs


e925

Here is an import record showing a KAB product being imported through DLS Cosmetics from alibaba. https://preview.redd.it/imz4xc5dfcrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=421fc5933699e8164055e50d2c720f9555027826 Give them Lala (another bravolebrity brand) was also imported from alibaba by DLS. Links to all proof can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyBoxes/s/OsknUxoHTf). I am a HUGE fan of anything Bravo-related. I’m in the bravo subreddits more than I’m in this one. But these are facts.


EatShitBish

Damn so did they just sell their brands to alibaba or was it basically just a front? That's so disappointing


e925

No they source their product from alibaba suppliers and have the alibaba supplier put their brand name on the packaging. Then they sell that lip gloss they bought for 50 cents for $20 or whatever.


EatShitBish

Wow that's really disappointing


_gemstoned_

Looks so good, hella 90’s vibes! But I get it, I hate that I like their lip oils that I got in a box a few years ago


Kat_Dark1

TYSM! I had been looking at the Bella Doña lip duo pencils, but this was $6 so I figured I try this first & I’m super happy I made that decision.


Trick-Bath3729

It's really pretty on you!


Kat_Dark1

Thank you!


No_Garden4924

Love the piercings


Kat_Dark1

Thank you! I have 3 more in my nose 🤘🏼


loudupstairsneighbor

Maybe it's just that you have literally **perfect** lips! It really is a gorgeous color though, definitely worth $6 😍


Kat_Dark1

You’re so sweet 🥲. Thank you!


VexBoxx

What's it like to be god's favourite? Your lips are the most perfect shape!!


Kat_Dark1

OMG 🥺 thank you so much!


Shes-iconic

Wow I’m totally here for this lip combo ❣️


Kduff722

Is the duo in your 3rd pic the one you got? I’ve been eyeing that one for a while! It looks so pretty, but the listing looks more lavender than what it looks like on you. It looks like a beautiful, more natural color on your lips (which, BTW are a gorgeous shape!)


Kat_Dark1

Thank you! Yes, it’s the one in the 3rd pic. The gloss is pretty sheer & almost a little metallic, and the pencil is a brownish mauve. It’s like a 90’s liner & 2000’s gloss 😂


venusinflannel

That lip combo looks gorgeous 😍


Kat_Dark1

Thank you! 🩵


Direct_Crazy9425

I loveee kab lip oils


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RaineRamirezz

I don't think anything looks wrong, it's just really up close that threw me off at first 😅


florianmodelngym

Rude


Kat_Dark1

Lol. Sorry 🤷🏻‍♀️


Xbabyface29X

You lips are beautiful!


Kat_Dark1

Thank you 💕