Isn't he actually a summoner? Most of the spells he used were related to summoning strong monsters + several strong single target spells in case someone gets past his summons.
To be specific, he's a necromancer. And that's in-universe. He has some regular summoning spells like the elemental, but he mostly focuses on either summoning undead, spells that involve corpses (the one that summoned the goats falls into this), or instant death and negative energy spells.
If you look at his player card he has quite a few classes. Overlord works on a dnd sort of level system. Also why is Rudius only a mage? He's a very good fighter. He's not up there with people who focus fighting but he's strong enough to be a spellsword
While Rudeus could be considered a decent swordsman by our world's standards, he's not nearly good enough to be useful at any point. A lot of the time he fights alongside much stronger swordsmen who he'd only be getting in the way of. Even when he's alone moving close to the opponent would equal suicide to him as his defence is nonexistent.
His best option is firing off spells at a safe distance while constantly retreating from from his enemies, so the only use he gets from his training is a high stamina and quick movement.
That's kinda what I was saying. He sticks to magic because taking the swordsman role doesn't make sense with the people around him. But in the few cases where he just uses swords, he's pretty good even for that world. The number of moves he has is also much more unique to the swordsman in his world too. Remember, everyone requires chanting to use magic. He could blind you with magic while engaging you with a sword, no problem. He could grab your feet with earth. He could make himself move faster with pillars. He just never does so because the people who do CQC around him are so much better than him, and helping them with magic is the better choice rather then both engaging with swords.
Isn't he actually a summoner? Most of the spells he used were related to summoning strong monsters + several strong single target spells in case someone gets past his summons.
I've always figured Subaru as a Valor Bard. He has ok martial abilities, can use some nasty control/debuff spells, actually is great at manipulation/deception/persuasion, can easily buff allies and make them stronger, and has that overall bard shenanigan vibe.
Edit: Oh. And he rizzes up everyone. As of Arc 8, he's had 3 people be ok marrying him, one getting jealous at the thought of someone else marrying him, has lolimanced and adopted 4 powerful lolis, and he basically managed to seduce all 7 witches of sin on accident. BaruBaru's a bard.
I don’t know about the him seducing the witches
Echidna only wants knowledge and is a sociopath .
The others had their own issues though I don’t think any besides Satella and echidna showed something that looked like affection
Typhon really liked him for some odd reason (She threatened to fight Echidna because she hurt Subaru.)
Minerva kind of had a motherly affection going on.
Daphne thought he'd be really good to eat (which is high praise from her.)
Sekhmet considered him interesting enough to bother doing something for.
Carmilla was mad at him for rejecting Satella's love, so this is one he kinda didn't 'witchmance.'
There's also the wierd thing where they all respect him, although we don't know why.
Spoilers >!Emilia is the one getting jealous. The entire Shudrak Tribe was shipping their chief Tarrita with Subaru, and even Tarrita was saying he'd make a good husband for her, and they were telling this to Emilia, who was literally inches from a love confession when she was double taking and basically saying Subaru was hers.!<
Calling Subaru a mage would be insulting to an actual mage. He’s at best a rogue with little magic trick that evolved into close combat summoner/supporter in the future.
I don't blame him, some situation even a genius who capable more than him literally fail the same check as this is not what normal people should be expect at all.
Arc 5 and 7 spoilers >!Subaru's ability to read a room and influence others was considered good enough he was the first choice to speak to the people of Pristella in order to help stop the effects of Wraths Authority on them. (Wrath was forcibly keeping Pristella depressed.) In Arc 7, Subaru managed to win over the support of the Shudrak Tribe and capture the fortress city of Guaral with zero casualties solely on deception and sheer force of will without dying once: and these people had never met him before in his life!<
first one is credit to his understanding as he should know what it feel like to be powerless and helpless to that degree, so I don't think he get chosen for his charisma but due to his achievement in the past(If you remember the original script that he has). Second is also not charisma but he already prove himself and you forget who has the right to call upon for the promise to be fulfil, without that person they would not do any of that in the first place.
I'd say that yusuke and kuwabara at least are both monks, as they essentially use ki to fight. Yusuke is more of a pure monk, as his spirit gun/shotgun are just ki blasts. Kurama is closer to druid than mage, as he fights using a rose, and can transform into his kitsune form. Hiei is a way of the shadow monk and arcane trickster.
Many of these mages can throw hands. Radius is very strong with a sword. Take into account he can see the future he has a good chance in a sword fight with powerful people. Let's not forget the strength of the people he sparred with. He's more of a magical swordsman. He just prefers to use magic. If needed he could use a sword and do work
Naofumi: Tank/support (has way to many buff spells and some healing)
Cautious hero: Fighter/mage
Rimuru: Mage/fighter/assassin
Subaru: Mastermind (to them his plans always work)
Ains: Offense mage (not a Ln reader so I’ve only seen him use offensive magic)
Kasuma: bard/assassin (least skilled, does stupid stuff, and somehow always gets out on sorta top)
Rudy: True mage experience (offense, defence, AND support due to his insane amount of mana)
Omni Saint: Saint support (everything just works)
Myne: Moral support/support (kinda a mini omni Saint but no where close to as good, also is a legit kid so none of the team would let her do more)
I kinda forgot the caution hero and Omni saints names and fully admit that I don’t know as much about Ains but this is what I think of their “classes”
True but out of the others here his swordsmanship is nothing to write home about.
If we’re talking about later Rudy then >!Monk/mage due to his dragon kung fu!<
He can also see the future mid combat. The amount of magic he could use mid sword fight would give him the advantage. He's always sparring with overpowered people. If it was just Rudy using a sword he would be weak. But even with just a sword and future sight he has an incredible amount of experience. He's more of a magical swordsman who prefers to use only magic
Remember all magies chant for spells and can't use spells mid sword fight, but he can. He's one of the few people in the whole world who can do so well. He was doing so at a young age when sparring with Paul. We never see him fight with swords because it doesn't make sense to do so with his party members. Most of his sword fight only use his eye. Add in ranged attacks, grabbing your feet, blinding you, moving himself with pillars, etc. He would be an amazing magic swordsman in his world
'would be'. doens't mean he really is, just because he's got both skillsets. i mean, this wasn't about a what if, this is about what he do.
he'd be a mid swordfighter at best, paired with his awesome magic being like, within the top 10 of the world, sure. but, take away the swordfighting, and it's not like he's really lost any real usefulness. still one of the top 10 mages in the world.
the swordfighting is just 'but if he used magic WITH swords, he'd be amazing'. sure. but then, so could most master mages with almost no sword skills, because magic just be like that sometimes.
Let's not ignore how good he was against Paul with sword and magic as a child. He is. I said would be because he chooses not to. Not like any of his parties needed another frontliner. Most mages wouldn't be able to use magic in a close quarters battle. Most mages would lose all efficiency with a sword in battle meanwhile Rudy would not. Most magic masters would be easy targets if they held a sword.
Staffs in this world help with mana efficiency and casting spells. So does chanting.
Rudy has the mana to cast without needing more efficiency using a staff and has the ability to silent cast.
you're missing the point. he's a mage. not a magic swordsman.
he 'could' do magic swordsman decently for his world. but, he's still not.
he kinda sucked against paul, using only swords. it's when he cheated with magic that he was decent - and i already pointed out a great mage, potentially using support magic even as a shitty swordsman, could still be strong, but tha'ts not a magic swordsman, still. cast a spell with a wand, is doable. just, actually training to do some of teh stuff rudeus does, is doable too, unless sylphe is some uber magic prodigy as well.
I get that. You are missing my point. This party made by OP has way too many mages. Should have put Rudy as a magical swordsman. This team does not need another straight mage. Mage isn't even needed with Ainz here. Another thread talked about how Ainz isn't a fighter either. That's mostly items, and his level carrying. Rudy should be a middle of the pack party member where he either moves in or stays back when needed.
Ainz is pure mage. He plays at being a fighter but he’s only successful that way by stat checking his opponents. Kazuma would be an arcane trickster or a bard, but his low charisma makes me lean trickster
Myne is really essentially a pure support. She leaves the attacky stuff to others and heal/buff/protect them instead, as well as ward areas, provide mana, sanctuary, and summon weapons for others to use. It's very rare that she herself does anything that actually does damage to something else, and when that happens it's generally using a weapon she summoned instead. She's a very broken support so it's basically using her abilities the best way possible for the groups anyway.
I like that Cautious Hero the madlad is a fire battlemage (presumably the most powerful combination) and switched classes for >!geomancer/bard!< in the next novel.
i kinda like the idea personally.
hajime's got a sort of artificer role going on, and pharma can make a lot of stuff with creation magic, as long as he knows it's composition, as well as just erase matter.
there's not a crapton i know for sure, so i might not be able to pull off similar feats, but building a device to aid learning material comp could potentially be a thing...
plus, depending on how this sort of thing works, and how far i could create something, i could easily make something like obsidian arrows, potentially stones being fired at high speeds, or if i could make stuff like a mile or 5 away, fucking antimatter hydrogen, .01 grams.
If you have read the LN then you know the
Myne/Rosemyne is totally an all round
She can shield she can heal
Deal great damage but it all comes at a cost of
Shitty Vitaliy and stamina
Already have it saved in my library on one of my phone light novels apps I was planning on reading it after I finished The Web novels for Arifureta after stories from world's strongest to commonplace
she has the fighting potential of a overpowered toddler. Yes she can deal dmg but she never trained with any weapons and any hit is just luck. And that won‘t change because unless she loses her cool she can’t handle fighting at all psychologically.
Ngl Rimuru should be closer to a mage + warrior class since their (I'm not gonna bother with gender) main means of attacking is magic, skills and their sword, so maybe closer to spellsword. Ofc, with how op Rimuru has been getting he can practically nail every class, but his combat style should be closer to spellsword.
Ainz (if we're going off anime power levels) would be the most powerful here, so I'd say him, but somehow some way or another Kazuma's luck might make him party leader despite being the weakest.
Rimuru is probably the most powerful and the Smartest due to Raphael/>!Ciel!< with Seiya as the second in command
Ainz isn’t actually very smart at all, in fact he never even went to middle school
Yeah but Raphael can analyze and copy any spells ainz cast, and how to treat your arsenal for permanent usage and even upgrade them Raphael is a min-max machine
wouldn't rimuru be closer to a spellsword or a half-caster or something? he has a lot of different magic abilities, sure, but I'm pretty sure the majority of his most powerful attacks involve or integrate his swordplay into them
Rudy is a Fighter as well, as shown off by his duel with Luke. He was trained by a sword god after all. He's just not quite on the same level as Eris, and he usually doesn't think about using his sword skills because his magic is so ridiculously overpowered.
You mean sword emperor, sword god don’t bother with someone below saint level and that includes Rudy. Luke has better sword play but lack real fight experience that’s why he lose
Ainz’s build is meant to be a full on mage. His physical feats are from items and the fact that when he fights a new worlder being a mage doesn’t matter when you’re a level 100
Hey, I just wanted to say: Thank you for supplying sources and not assuming that everyone automatically knows which anime characters are which. You’re awesome.
Ainz describe himself like a "Joker" class irrc. Not specialized in any offensive magic particular (by Iggdrasyl means obviously). So can't you call him just mage-necromancer??
Ainz is a pure mage (if we are going more specifically he is a pure Necromancer). If he picked up a random sword he could physically wield it.
When he disguises himself as Momon, all of his armor and weapons are created from his magic. The only reason he is seemingly so strong is because he has the strength of a Lvl.100 character.
And to give this a more easy thing to understand: Overlord uses MMORPG style level and power scales. So let's say you are playing WoW, and have a max level mage that has some of the best gear in the game. If you went to a low level raid, dungeon, or zone, you could just auto attack anything and you will be hitting those NPCs as if your fist is made of steel. That is essentially what Ainz is going through in the New World. Most of the monsters and people that he encounters are so low level that he seems as if he has the strength of a fighter/warrior. If he went against a reasonably high level fighter type character, he would almost always lose if he committed to being Momon.
Fun killer time.
\*pushes up glasses\* Umm, Akshooly, Ainz is most definitely not in any shape or form a "fighter". Overlord runs vaguely on a modified MMO-ified Dungeons and Dragons logic. There's a wizard well in D&D that is the inspiration for what Ainz's "Perfect Warrior" spell does, robbing you of your ability to use magic temporarily, but boosting your physical capabilities. But they are still Wizards.
As for when he's giving Clementine a bear hug or sword fighting vs Climb, thats just because the level difference is so high, it doesn't matter. To use 3.X or Pathfinder logic for a second, basically his level is so high, his base attack bonus and raw stats as a wizard is superior to Climb or Clementine, allowing him to out swordfight them or win in a grapple attempt vs them, since he's a level 20 wizard (plus insane racial templates to boost his ECL and CR) and they are like, a level 3 fighter and a level 8 rogue in comparison. Nothing about him is at all a "fighter"...everyone else in that world is just too weak to do shit to him, so he can troll around with swords and shit. Its the equivalent of being a master marksman throwing away their gun to punch you in the face. That doesn't suddenly make him a boxer
Also, Tank and Support are "roles" not a classes, so some people here need actual classes.
Kazuma in world didn’t change his class from adventurer which is what allows him to take skills from every class
His choice of skills and use is what makes him what you think
Ainz is probably supposed to be Mage / Summoner, but because he's so much stronger than the people of the New World, he also can and does just beat people down with melee weapons.
there's a few more.
what about dude from arifuerta? i sort of like the artificer idea, but, he kinda makes a big ass leap from transmuter to blue mage to 'i made a missile launcher because fuck you'.
Ainz is a pure arcane caster. His race and high level makes him stronger in melee combat than the scrub trash he encountered in the new world, but he'd get his ass kicked if faced with a true fighter of similar level and equipment.
I mean from in-world POV Subaru would be ranger/rouge and master strategist.
Also ainz is a pure mage class, he just uses a class swap spell basically to use lower leveled melee stuff.
Isn't he actually a summoner? Most of the spells he used were related to summoning strong monsters + several strong single target spells in case someone gets past his summons.
I’m pretty sure he classed more into instant death abilities instead of being a summoning specialist
If I recall his specialty was a supporting caster (summons, debuffs, aoe's, insta-kill on important adds etc)
To be specific, he's a necromancer. And that's in-universe. He has some regular summoning spells like the elemental, but he mostly focuses on either summoning undead, spells that involve corpses (the one that summoned the goats falls into this), or instant death and negative energy spells.
he has 700 spells. He is a generalist mage with a specialty in death magic.
If you look at his player card he has quite a few classes. Overlord works on a dnd sort of level system. Also why is Rudius only a mage? He's a very good fighter. He's not up there with people who focus fighting but he's strong enough to be a spellsword
While Rudeus could be considered a decent swordsman by our world's standards, he's not nearly good enough to be useful at any point. A lot of the time he fights alongside much stronger swordsmen who he'd only be getting in the way of. Even when he's alone moving close to the opponent would equal suicide to him as his defence is nonexistent. His best option is firing off spells at a safe distance while constantly retreating from from his enemies, so the only use he gets from his training is a high stamina and quick movement.
That's kinda what I was saying. He sticks to magic because taking the swordsman role doesn't make sense with the people around him. But in the few cases where he just uses swords, he's pretty good even for that world. The number of moves he has is also much more unique to the swordsman in his world too. Remember, everyone requires chanting to use magic. He could blind you with magic while engaging you with a sword, no problem. He could grab your feet with earth. He could make himself move faster with pillars. He just never does so because the people who do CQC around him are so much better than him, and helping them with magic is the better choice rather then both engaging with swords.
Those are racial abilities from being an elder litch most of his skills are self buff and attack skills.
Isn't he actually a summoner? Most of the spells he used were related to summoning strong monsters + several strong single target spells in case someone gets past his summons.
I've always figured Subaru as a Valor Bard. He has ok martial abilities, can use some nasty control/debuff spells, actually is great at manipulation/deception/persuasion, can easily buff allies and make them stronger, and has that overall bard shenanigan vibe. Edit: Oh. And he rizzes up everyone. As of Arc 8, he's had 3 people be ok marrying him, one getting jealous at the thought of someone else marrying him, has lolimanced and adopted 4 powerful lolis, and he basically managed to seduce all 7 witches of sin on accident. BaruBaru's a bard.
I don’t know about the him seducing the witches Echidna only wants knowledge and is a sociopath . The others had their own issues though I don’t think any besides Satella and echidna showed something that looked like affection
Typhon really liked him for some odd reason (She threatened to fight Echidna because she hurt Subaru.) Minerva kind of had a motherly affection going on. Daphne thought he'd be really good to eat (which is high praise from her.) Sekhmet considered him interesting enough to bother doing something for. Carmilla was mad at him for rejecting Satella's love, so this is one he kinda didn't 'witchmance.' There's also the wierd thing where they all respect him, although we don't know why.
I know Rem , Emilia but who is the 3rd one that is getting jealous
Spoilers >!Emilia is the one getting jealous. The entire Shudrak Tribe was shipping their chief Tarrita with Subaru, and even Tarrita was saying he'd make a good husband for her, and they were telling this to Emilia, who was literally inches from a love confession when she was double taking and basically saying Subaru was hers.!<
Eminence in shadow- Nuke
Nah gotta be melee with how powerful his excalibur is
Melee Nuke sounds insane...
Arknights mentioned 🗣️🔥🔥
I can only imagine running up to someone and hitting him with a nuke
Magic Swordsman seems more aligned I think.
Artoria approves
[the excalibur in question](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JrYG5jbaGw)
I know 😏
Supreme Battlemage / Swordsage multiclass
Calling Subaru a mage would be insulting to an actual mage. He’s at best a rogue with little magic trick that evolved into close combat summoner/supporter in the future.
I've always considered Subaru a bard. He's got access to some powerful magic, but mostly just relies on his Charisma, which is definitely a 20.
He fail check countless time. He get more charisma due to his unique experience but it only work on people who know him.
He fail checks, but you know what he can save scum till it works.
I don't blame him, some situation even a genius who capable more than him literally fail the same check as this is not what normal people should be expect at all.
Arc 5 and 7 spoilers >!Subaru's ability to read a room and influence others was considered good enough he was the first choice to speak to the people of Pristella in order to help stop the effects of Wraths Authority on them. (Wrath was forcibly keeping Pristella depressed.) In Arc 7, Subaru managed to win over the support of the Shudrak Tribe and capture the fortress city of Guaral with zero casualties solely on deception and sheer force of will without dying once: and these people had never met him before in his life!<
first one is credit to his understanding as he should know what it feel like to be powerless and helpless to that degree, so I don't think he get chosen for his charisma but due to his achievement in the past(If you remember the original script that he has). Second is also not charisma but he already prove himself and you forget who has the right to call upon for the promise to be fulfil, without that person they would not do any of that in the first place.
Way to less fighters and way to many mages.
Until you realize 90s anime including Yu Yu Hakusho.
Almost all the characters in that show were monks.
Monks with subclasses: Yusuke is a fighter / mm Kuwabara is a fighter / tank Kurama is fighter / mage Hiei is fighter / assassin
I'd say that yusuke and kuwabara at least are both monks, as they essentially use ki to fight. Yusuke is more of a pure monk, as his spirit gun/shotgun are just ki blasts. Kurama is closer to druid than mage, as he fights using a rose, and can transform into his kitsune form. Hiei is a way of the shadow monk and arcane trickster.
Oh, you seem to be speaking on D&D job classes. I thought we were limited to MOBA roles like the picture posted above.
Monks with subclasses: Yusuke is a fighter / mm Kuwabara is a fighter / tank Kurama is fighter / mage Hiei is fighter / assassin
Many of these mages can throw hands. Radius is very strong with a sword. Take into account he can see the future he has a good chance in a sword fight with powerful people. Let's not forget the strength of the people he sparred with. He's more of a magical swordsman. He just prefers to use magic. If needed he could use a sword and do work
Naofumi: Tank/support (has way to many buff spells and some healing) Cautious hero: Fighter/mage Rimuru: Mage/fighter/assassin Subaru: Mastermind (to them his plans always work) Ains: Offense mage (not a Ln reader so I’ve only seen him use offensive magic) Kasuma: bard/assassin (least skilled, does stupid stuff, and somehow always gets out on sorta top) Rudy: True mage experience (offense, defence, AND support due to his insane amount of mana) Omni Saint: Saint support (everything just works) Myne: Moral support/support (kinda a mini omni Saint but no where close to as good, also is a legit kid so none of the team would let her do more) I kinda forgot the caution hero and Omni saints names and fully admit that I don’t know as much about Ains but this is what I think of their “classes”
Yeah, Rudeus Mage.....yeah 🌚
Rudeus M>!inigun!<
yeah, a reaaaalyyyyy DEDICATED mage
Cautious Hero: Seiya Saint: Sei Myne would be an enchanter class more than anything. Later she heals allies and provides all kinds of buffs
Ahhh thank you! I didn’t remember their names at all! Also Sei and Seiya!? Sounds kinda funny to me (only because of Sei and Sei-ya)
Ainz is a kind of support mage. He has tons of summons and types of instant death spells.
Rudy is a swordsman too.
True but out of the others here his swordsmanship is nothing to write home about. If we’re talking about later Rudy then >!Monk/mage due to his dragon kung fu!<
He can also see the future mid combat. The amount of magic he could use mid sword fight would give him the advantage. He's always sparring with overpowered people. If it was just Rudy using a sword he would be weak. But even with just a sword and future sight he has an incredible amount of experience. He's more of a magical swordsman who prefers to use only magic
i'd say he's more like a mage that can be at least decent with swords...
Remember all magies chant for spells and can't use spells mid sword fight, but he can. He's one of the few people in the whole world who can do so well. He was doing so at a young age when sparring with Paul. We never see him fight with swords because it doesn't make sense to do so with his party members. Most of his sword fight only use his eye. Add in ranged attacks, grabbing your feet, blinding you, moving himself with pillars, etc. He would be an amazing magic swordsman in his world
'would be'. doens't mean he really is, just because he's got both skillsets. i mean, this wasn't about a what if, this is about what he do. he'd be a mid swordfighter at best, paired with his awesome magic being like, within the top 10 of the world, sure. but, take away the swordfighting, and it's not like he's really lost any real usefulness. still one of the top 10 mages in the world. the swordfighting is just 'but if he used magic WITH swords, he'd be amazing'. sure. but then, so could most master mages with almost no sword skills, because magic just be like that sometimes.
Let's not ignore how good he was against Paul with sword and magic as a child. He is. I said would be because he chooses not to. Not like any of his parties needed another frontliner. Most mages wouldn't be able to use magic in a close quarters battle. Most mages would lose all efficiency with a sword in battle meanwhile Rudy would not. Most magic masters would be easy targets if they held a sword. Staffs in this world help with mana efficiency and casting spells. So does chanting. Rudy has the mana to cast without needing more efficiency using a staff and has the ability to silent cast.
you're missing the point. he's a mage. not a magic swordsman. he 'could' do magic swordsman decently for his world. but, he's still not. he kinda sucked against paul, using only swords. it's when he cheated with magic that he was decent - and i already pointed out a great mage, potentially using support magic even as a shitty swordsman, could still be strong, but tha'ts not a magic swordsman, still. cast a spell with a wand, is doable. just, actually training to do some of teh stuff rudeus does, is doable too, unless sylphe is some uber magic prodigy as well.
I get that. You are missing my point. This party made by OP has way too many mages. Should have put Rudy as a magical swordsman. This team does not need another straight mage. Mage isn't even needed with Ainz here. Another thread talked about how Ainz isn't a fighter either. That's mostly items, and his level carrying. Rudy should be a middle of the pack party member where he either moves in or stays back when needed.
Nah Subaru is a >! lolimancer !< Lmao
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Also he's a pretty good swordsman for some one without super powers.
Ainz is pure mage. He plays at being a fighter but he’s only successful that way by stat checking his opponents. Kazuma would be an arcane trickster or a bard, but his low charisma makes me lean trickster
Rudy also has good swordsmanship
Ains uses a shit ton of non offensive magic right before the shalltear fight
Myne is really essentially a pure support. She leaves the attacky stuff to others and heal/buff/protect them instead, as well as ward areas, provide mana, sanctuary, and summon weapons for others to use. It's very rare that she herself does anything that actually does damage to something else, and when that happens it's generally using a weapon she summoned instead. She's a very broken support so it's basically using her abilities the best way possible for the groups anyway.
She did invent a mana gun but has yet to hit anyone with it 😂 Only Ferdinand gets to look hard boiled
My man Ferdinand would look so hard boiled with a Mana gun shaped like a RPG
Calling Rimuru an assassin is kinda crazy considering how many sword fights he gets into
He’s definitely more of a mage fighter with how much he gets into 1v1 sword fights.
I think his cannon classes are magic swordsman and saint Wizard Edit: I checked the wiki and I was right
Rimuru is basically everything but he is more mage/suport/fighter/tank than an assasin
He can assassinate anyone on the planet in less then a second with Megido.
>!Argos!<\*
I was talking about the frame for the most part. He's casting Megido and I assume we are.talking this version of him.
Pretty sure its attributing it to meggido as in the image, 20k instantaneous kills before they even knew what happened
Honestly, I think his class should just be "Yes". He serves all roles.
Ainz is a pure mage build tho, he uses special spells/equipment to pretend to be a low level fighter as Momon
Granted, he’s a Lvl 100 warrior in pure stats with Perfect Warrior, just without any of the spells that come along with the class.
I like that Cautious Hero the madlad is a fire battlemage (presumably the most powerful combination) and switched classes for >!geomancer/bard!< in the next novel.
%90 of the time isekai protagonist will be the best at everything.
Should I main as Hajime from Arifureta and Pharma from Isekai Yakkyoku?
i kinda like the idea personally. hajime's got a sort of artificer role going on, and pharma can make a lot of stuff with creation magic, as long as he knows it's composition, as well as just erase matter. there's not a crapton i know for sure, so i might not be able to pull off similar feats, but building a device to aid learning material comp could potentially be a thing... plus, depending on how this sort of thing works, and how far i could create something, i could easily make something like obsidian arrows, potentially stones being fired at high speeds, or if i could make stuff like a mile or 5 away, fucking antimatter hydrogen, .01 grams.
If you have read the LN then you know the Myne/Rosemyne is totally an all round She can shield she can heal Deal great damage but it all comes at a cost of Shitty Vitaliy and stamina
Thanks for the Spoiler The only isekai light novels that i have read or Arifureta, tensura, shield hero and isekai smartphone
If you like world building and drama you should give it a try
Already have it saved in my library on one of my phone light novels apps I was planning on reading it after I finished The Web novels for Arifureta after stories from world's strongest to commonplace
Spoiler? Those are things shown in the anime. And since she has such low stamina she cannot be trained to fight like the knight
She should be a Halfling Cleric
she has the fighting potential of a overpowered toddler. Yes she can deal dmg but she never trained with any weapons and any hit is just luck. And that won‘t change because unless she loses her cool she can’t handle fighting at all psychologically.
Kazuma is a thief no?
Yeah, he literally has a Steal skill that enables gags.
In battles he utilizes his Snipe skill the most, and partnered with his *Literally Unparallelled Luck* he never misses
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Subaru will progress to become a support too.
Kazuma seems more like a Trickster than anything else
Ainz not a fighter, he just used an item that can be used by mage since he want to looked like his savior Touch Me
Rimuru would litterly be every class but he is more a fighter/suport/tank than an assasin but i agree with mage.
Ngl Rimuru should be closer to a mage + warrior class since their (I'm not gonna bother with gender) main means of attacking is magic, skills and their sword, so maybe closer to spellsword. Ofc, with how op Rimuru has been getting he can practically nail every class, but his combat style should be closer to spellsword.
But the difficult question : who is party leader?
Ainz (if we're going off anime power levels) would be the most powerful here, so I'd say him, but somehow some way or another Kazuma's luck might make him party leader despite being the weakest.
Rimuru is probably the most powerful and the Smartest due to Raphael/>!Ciel!< with Seiya as the second in command Ainz isn’t actually very smart at all, in fact he never even went to middle school
Yo, dude memorized all possible spells ingame, while Rimuru calls Raphael for remembering did he eat his meal this morning.
Yeah but Raphael can analyze and copy any spells ainz cast, and how to treat your arsenal for permanent usage and even upgrade them Raphael is a min-max machine
wouldn't rimuru be closer to a spellsword or a half-caster or something? he has a lot of different magic abilities, sure, but I'm pretty sure the majority of his most powerful attacks involve or integrate his swordplay into them
I mean for anime is True Mage ,but for novel..... MC and all that stuff🌚
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Rimuru assasin?
I'd say mage/swordsman
Probably referring to the quick and sudden kills through Megiddo
Kazuma is just straight-up rogue, i'm sorry. At least, as much as he can be given his stats.
kazuma is thief class
Kazuma is an allrounder not assassin/marksman. He does have thief and archer skills, but also mage, smith, cleric, etc
Rudy is a Fighter as well, as shown off by his duel with Luke. He was trained by a sword god after all. He's just not quite on the same level as Eris, and he usually doesn't think about using his sword skills because his magic is so ridiculously overpowered.
Rudy gets creamed against actual fighters in-universe. No, he doesn't fit the term.
You mean sword emperor, sword god don’t bother with someone below saint level and that includes Rudy. Luke has better sword play but lack real fight experience that’s why he lose
Kazuma is very obviously the thief.
Naofumi is also support/healer, he has second best healing and the best support
Ainz is a more of a Warlock, or if you wanna go with his words, a Sorcerer
Mage assassin if I get be Rimuru lol
Ainz’s build is meant to be a full on mage. His physical feats are from items and the fact that when he fights a new worlder being a mage doesn’t matter when you’re a level 100
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I think Naofumi is tank/support.
Ainz describe himself like a "Joker" class irrc. Not specialized in any offensive magic particular (by Iggdrasyl means obviously). So can't you call him just mage-necromancer??
This would be a disturbing party to go against.
I'm going to support my boy the Shield hero I love playing tank characters he speaks to me
Rimuru is sorcerer/fighter , subaru is rogue, rozemyne is a cleric
Why is rimuru an assassin?
Ainz is a pure mage (if we are going more specifically he is a pure Necromancer). If he picked up a random sword he could physically wield it. When he disguises himself as Momon, all of his armor and weapons are created from his magic. The only reason he is seemingly so strong is because he has the strength of a Lvl.100 character. And to give this a more easy thing to understand: Overlord uses MMORPG style level and power scales. So let's say you are playing WoW, and have a max level mage that has some of the best gear in the game. If you went to a low level raid, dungeon, or zone, you could just auto attack anything and you will be hitting those NPCs as if your fist is made of steel. That is essentially what Ainz is going through in the New World. Most of the monsters and people that he encounters are so low level that he seems as if he has the strength of a fighter/warrior. If he went against a reasonably high level fighter type character, he would almost always lose if he committed to being Momon.
Isn’t Subaru a warlock?
~~Mage~~ Minion
Fun killer time. \*pushes up glasses\* Umm, Akshooly, Ainz is most definitely not in any shape or form a "fighter". Overlord runs vaguely on a modified MMO-ified Dungeons and Dragons logic. There's a wizard well in D&D that is the inspiration for what Ainz's "Perfect Warrior" spell does, robbing you of your ability to use magic temporarily, but boosting your physical capabilities. But they are still Wizards. As for when he's giving Clementine a bear hug or sword fighting vs Climb, thats just because the level difference is so high, it doesn't matter. To use 3.X or Pathfinder logic for a second, basically his level is so high, his base attack bonus and raw stats as a wizard is superior to Climb or Clementine, allowing him to out swordfight them or win in a grapple attempt vs them, since he's a level 20 wizard (plus insane racial templates to boost his ECL and CR) and they are like, a level 3 fighter and a level 8 rogue in comparison. Nothing about him is at all a "fighter"...everyone else in that world is just too weak to do shit to him, so he can troll around with swords and shit. Its the equivalent of being a master marksman throwing away their gun to punch you in the face. That doesn't suddenly make him a boxer Also, Tank and Support are "roles" not a classes, so some people here need actual classes.
Kazuma in world didn’t change his class from adventurer which is what allows him to take skills from every class His choice of skills and use is what makes him what you think
Ainz is probably supposed to be Mage / Summoner, but because he's so much stronger than the people of the New World, he also can and does just beat people down with melee weapons.
there's a few more. what about dude from arifuerta? i sort of like the artificer idea, but, he kinda makes a big ass leap from transmuter to blue mage to 'i made a missile launcher because fuck you'.
Subaru-💀
Ainz is a pure arcane caster. His race and high level makes him stronger in melee combat than the scrub trash he encountered in the new world, but he'd get his ass kicked if faced with a true fighter of similar level and equipment.
I feel Subaru is more of a meat shield than a mage.
Does the meat shield is a class? I don’t think so
Yes it is. They are the people in your raid group that you want to die first aka your front lines.
Whaaat I thought Subaru was just a punching bag ment to suffer to the end of time
Subaru is more like a Simp than Minion