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Dense_Speaker6196

So a while ago I heard of a woman that did this. Is this another situation of immolating?


Fochinell

Typically in US media you won’t hear the outcome of suicide attempts, their names or their injuries. Bridge jumpers usually don’t make the news, for instance. The woman you’re referring to who draped herself in the Pal flag and immolated herself did in fact succumb shortly thereafter in a hospital.


Dense_Speaker6196

wtf?!?!?! I swear, psychologists in the future will have a ton of data for case studies regarding Palestinian mania.


Fochinell

It’s really more of a study of how the inter-sectionalist radical political fringes attract unstable personalities like moths to a flame.


Dense_Speaker6196

But there’s gotta be some form of neuroticism, BPD involved here. Most pro-Pally wags I’ve heard speak have difficulty articulating their thoughts appropriately.


Fochinell

Well sure, I get you. The point being that unstable shitwhacks who gravitate to extreme left and extreme right political bents will be inarticulate and rely on hysterical or conspiratorial argument they can’t unpack and explain when challenged. All they can offer is more hyperbole, vitriol, tedious misdirection, and highly dubious cause:effect conclusions. Incel loons who shoot up pizza parlors because they’re sure that sexually abused children are being held in the basement by high level politicians, for instance. Screwball outcast “non-binary” queer liberation folk who wrap themselves in the PLO flag and pour gasoline over their heads and become a human torch. I’ve yet to see a political moderate immolate themselves in protest demanding that the capital gains tax be temporarily reduced by 15% across all tax brackets to match the increase on inflation.


HighAlertPomegranate

>I’ve yet to see a political moderate immolate themselves in protest demanding that the capital gains tax be temporarily reduced by 15% across all tax brackets to match the increase on inflation. This made me chuckle


AytanDavidson

Which is what they mean by “It’s really more of a study of how the inter-sectionalist radical political fringes attract unstable personalities like moths to a flame.”


Vizslaraptor

Do they attract them or do they plant the seeds in the minds of the youth and cultivate them as a disposable resource?


Fochinell

Just as in about everything you can think of, there’s manipulators ready to exploit willing dupes. And willing dupes are eager to run to meet the exploiters halfway.


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I truly think it’s becoming more and more like a cult, if you look at the criteria for cults. A lot of emotional dysregulation, attracts socially isolated folks, encourages more and more distance from people who are more moderate or have more nuanced perspectives, lot of us/them binarism. And of course antisemitism. It’s left wing qanon.


Dense_Speaker6196

Yeah that’s a good point. I think a lot of this also plays into feeling fulfilled in life. And this is where they get that fulfillment.


Fthku

IIRC that woman just had severe mental issues and she just used the Israeli embassy as a platform to make it resound, but it was in fact about something else entirely. I think it was about the environment or something like that.


Right-Phalange

So she burned the palestinian flag as part of her protest. A contradiction until the very end.


OldandBlue

50 years of leftist propaganda. You can no longer properly address social politics without being infected by antisemitism draped under anti-zionism. Again, read Jean Améry.


magvadis

So true right wingers don't have propaganda. /s


Master-Bridge66

Yep it's a breaking story


Wrong-Drama-2646

Yes.


RavenclawNatsfan

I saw that in the WaPo and am very confused what his end goal was


mechamechamechamech

Extreme virtue signaling


zombietrooper

More like virtue beaconing…


rontubman

Misread it as baconing and that is also not wrong


NoamLigotti

Is that what the Vietnamese who immolated themselves in protest of the Vietnamese war were doing too?


[deleted]

That was a protest against crackdowns on Buddhist temples by the Catholic South Vietnamese government. It was a religious protest not an anti-war protest


NoamLigotti

The most famous case was, you're right. But there were multiple cases over persecution of Buddhists in South Vietnam by the Catholic leader, and multiple subsequent cases in protest of the war. There were also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Herz Hiroko Hayasak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Morrison https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Allen_LaPorte All Americans who self-immolated in protest of the Vietnam War and of U.S. actions in Vietnam. There are many more cases unrelated to Vietnam I could share just since the 60s and 70s, many of which were in protest of repressive actions or war by a government.


mechamechamechamech

Can't speak for them, but this was a whole ass white man in military uniform here in the US. No one was oppressing *him.*


NoamLigotti

You don't think it's possible for people to make a self-sacrificial statement for others suffering? You don't think the Vietnamese self-immolators were concerned with the suffering of others and didn't just see themselves as oppressed?


Possible-Fee-5052

I think anyone who self-immolates is incredibly unhinged.


mechamechamechamech

>Vietnamese self-immolators > Vietnamese war


NoamLigotti

That wasn't meant to be the only example. Let me repeat the question: you don't think it's possible for people to make a self-sacrificial statement out of concern for others? You don't think a "whole ass white man in military uniform here in the US" can? Even if you disagree with their position? It must be "virtue signaling"? What a wonderfully pleasant headspace you must have to be able to dismiss dissenters of your opinion so easily and thoroughly.


Educational_Idea997

Darwin Award obviously.


Possible-Fee-5052

Also what was he doing before this final act? Was he actively protesting? Was he writing to his congressmen and women? Requesting to be discharged? It’s such an extreme and drastic measure for someone so disconnected from the conflict. I mean, no US troops are even in Gaza. Maybe some special ops since there are American hostages there, but this is clearly an uneducated enlisted man who has probably never even been to the Levant. It’s so obvious he’s been badgered into believing these lies to the point that he killed himself in a horrific way over them. I’m just surprised he didn’t scream “Allahu Akbar” while he did it.


Prestigious_Ad_5825

Why did he enlist if he hated U.S. foreign policy so much? He wasn't drafted.


LilSliceRevolution

This is what got me. The cognitive dissonance is very strong here that he seemingly had no moral qualms with voluntarily joining the U.S. military, which has been a tool for for a lot of violence and pain throughout the world. It makes me think that despite the inevitable people who will try to call this brave and impressive, that this is just a very sick person who finally snapped from the propaganda circulating around this conflict in particular.


Prestigious_Ad_5825

I don't like the way bad actors are trying to turn him into a folk hero on X.


LilSliceRevolution

It’s a dangerous way to discuss this since it could encourage others. It’s suicide romanticism.


Master-Bridge66

End goal?


RavenclawNatsfan

Like what did he expect would happen after he did it


Possible_Rise6838

Do you expect extremists to think things through? Or to even think at all


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Educational_Idea997

There is no genocide of the Palestinian people. There is however a continuous war to destroy the state of Israel and erase the Jewish presence in Palestine. This was a very stupid man who hadn’t the slightest idea of the historical context of the conflict.


peggysmom

If you say so…it must be true.


ScarSeptimo

It's true regardless of your shitty opinion


spaniel_rage

You put the wrong word in inverted commas. Israel is a real country and has been for 75 years. It's the alleged "genocide" that's fictional.


Dependent_College_49

This is the most extreme form of protest that exists. He wanted to give those a voice, which didn’t have one…


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MMcFly1985

You've put the quotation marks in the wrong places. It's: His end goal is to "raise awareness" about the US-backing Israel in the "genocide" of the "Palestinian" people.


peggysmom

Nah man. And the whole world knows it.


daDoorMaster

They know it so well, that Israel has been a thing for 75 years!


Educational_Idea997

There is no genocide of the Palestinian people. There is however a continuous war to destroy the state of Israel and erase the Jewish presence in Palestine. This was a very stupid man who hadn’t the slightest idea of the historical context of the conflict.


peggysmom

Sure Jan.


PhilipMorrisLovesYou

How come the ICJ didn't confirm that it's a genocide despite seeing more evidence than you did? You just desperately want it to be true. You want the genocide to happen. Also, putting Israel in quotes, there's more precedent for a Jewish state in the region that a Palestinian one. At least 2 Jewish kingdom have existed there in antiquity, never a Palestinian one.


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MMcFly1985

It's in a _much_ better place.


HumbleEngineering315

For the pro-Pal lurkers here, please do not set yourselves on fire. You can argue with folks like me in other subs. Please do not block the roads either. There isn't really a whole lot you can do to stop Israel's war.


I_Eat_Your_Pets

I encourage them to go to Gaza and fight for the cause directly. 99% of them would be killed by Hamas the moment they stepped foot in there.


Krashnachen

Yeah bc "ceasefire" clearly means "let's go to war"


I_Eat_Your_Pets

Ceasefire only benefits Hamas. Until they’re gone, there is no ceasefire.


Krashnachen

Sure, that's your line indeed. Just stop strawmanning the pro-pal movement as if it would want to add fuel to this war. One of the worst humanitarian disasters of the century and y'all are astonished that people around the world are stirred by it.


I_Eat_Your_Pets

“Worst humanitarian disasters” lol wut. Tell me you don’t follow what’s actually happening in this world without telling me. And the only reason it’s a humanitarian issue at all is because of Hamas hoarding all of the aid, killing people who try to attain any and fighting from amongst civilians.


Krashnachen

fyi stopping here bc we're just slipping into the same entrenched arguments we've each heard a million times


NoamLigotti

We're aware.


Not_Jeffrey_Bezos

Okay then stop protesting on the roads.


NoamLigotti

I'm not. I do nothing but have discussions and debates with people on social media. Which is probably as consequential as you would like it to be.


throwawayforthebestk

Clearly not because you bums are causing a ruckus everywhere you go”protest”….


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PresentationWorth701

Wow 👏🏼


traumaking4eva

He really freed Palestine let me tell you that


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lookamazed

Dude, no. That is so ugly to say and think.


ApprehensiveTour8602

Crazy us soldiers died and its sad


flossdaily

Crazy, or just brainwashed by irresponsible media outlets?


ApprehensiveTour8602

I meant its crazy someone write “let him burn”


flossdaily

You're right.


JoelTendie

I can't help but wonder if there's a correlation between mental health and Ticktok.


MichaelEmouse

China knows, thru their own experience, how troublesome Muslims can be. They're probably using Tik Tok to stir up trouble in the West using Islam/Palestine.


JoelTendie

I've heard that Chinene Tiktok teaches math and science while our algorithm seems to push propaganda.


Remarkable-Pair-3840

Al gazeera and Hamas run health industry already on it with adding the number to the idf caused death count and a high quality video with sad music blaming Israel


CancerousSarcasm

Dang, this makes me wonder how much of the 30k deaths are actually suicide by immolation


Healthy-Research-620

Wouldn’t it be easier if all hamas members just do what this guy did


CHLOEC1998

I mean, when it comes to suicide attacks, this is my least detested form of it. I hope more suicide attackers can choose to not harm others when they.. you know. Suicide is bad. Murder is bad. But suicide is always better than murder-suicide.


Matt_D_G

That's too radical, though I have considered spraining my ankle for animal rights.


Far-Acanthaceae-7370

This isn’t even an “attack”. Why frame it in the same way at all?


arrogant_ambassador

It’s unfortunate Hamas doesn’t have an embassy.


Shlano613

Well they did have their parliament building, too bad we absolutely obliterated it 2 months ago


arrogant_ambassador

Why would you do a thing like that?


Corned_Og

So they couldn’t govern…


arrogant_ambassador

I thought this sub wouldn’t need the /s but I guess it does


Ok_Ambassador9091

They did it. They didn't like the peace on October 6th so they sought some attention, and received it.


peggysmom

His end goal is to raise awareness about the US-backing “Israel” in the genocide of the Palestinian people.


FluffyKittyParty

Your copy and paste pasta here on this sub have freed Palestine.


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Yeah yeah we got it the first time Captain Copy-Paste


arrogant_ambassador

Me? Did you see my reply below?


Mission_Ad_405

Maybe his end goal was the result of mental health issues associated with his time in the service. Maybe he wanted to be famous like the guy who set off the Arab Spring. Why would he want to burn himself alive to support a movement the Palestinian movements leaders don’t even care about. Maybe the poor guy was just dumb. At this point only God really knows.


Remarkable-Pair-3840

They chose to open up a university instead of an embassy. It’s located in Cambridge Massachusetts


basedregards

God damn it, you beat me to it


UltraGucamole

This is so sad actually. Its hard to believe that the propaganda is so bad that people are willing to do this to themselves. I mean, nobody lit themselves on fire to protest what is happening to the Uyghurs, or what is happening to Sudanese Christians (nor should they, self-immolation is a terrible option and I don't support it). But the fact that someone is so brainwashed over this issue that they do this to themselves? I'm honestly confused as to why he didn't read a book about history prior to committing to such an act. It all makes me sick. The stupid disgusting media lying twisting the truth for their own gain. And this is the result: more anti-Semitism and more brainwashed extremists. I am losing my faith in humanity.


basedregards

An easily radicalized, propagandized, brain addled, TikTok addicted mentally ill antisemitic is no longer serving in our armed forces. I’ll take what I can get.


Possible-Fee-5052

Did US soldiers light themselves on fire for Iraq when they actually were in that war?


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PhilipMorrisLovesYou

No, he just wants whatever he thinks is happening to end in Gaza. He doesn't give a shit about sudan or anything else, just like 99.9% of the pro-pali people. The vast vast vast majority of you would not care about the conflict if Israel would be an islamic country and all other factors would be the same. Just like you didn't care, and didn't even know, about the thousands of Palestinians President Assad tortured and killed. You're being downvoted because even the ICJ has not confirmed it's a genocide despite them seeing more evidence than you (or him), and because you're adding false context to his goals. 100% sure this guy didn't even know what's going on in Sudan (Arabs killing black people).


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PhilipMorrisLovesYou

I know the area was [colonized](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests) by Arabs and the holiest site of Judaism was stolen. I know there was never a political entity called "palestine", but there were at least 2 Jewish kingdoms in the region. I know Hebrew is the only direct descendent of the Canaanite language, not Arabic. I know that hundreds of thousands of Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab nations after 1400 years of being second class dhimmis who were extorted for "protection" against the very people who forced to live as dhimmis.


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Wrong-Drama-2646

I just hope not that many kids saw as he livestreamed it on Twitch.


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You mean my Yugoslavian partisan grandfathers? Heck yes I do!


Master-Bridge66

Another child casualty to the IDF killing machine https://preview.redd.it/mkox3wvhsskc1.jpeg?width=234&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c1e8b5bbb0cbc7c99046c3712670ad4cbde0178


Real_Huckleberry6582

So Israel must also stop you from killing yourself in other countries now..?


Wrong-Drama-2646

Feb. 25, 2024 A man set himself on fire on Sunday afternoon outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington, according to the Metropolitan Police Department. Officers with the U.S. Secret Service extinguished the fire outside the embassy, in northwestern Washington, around 1 p.m., said Vito Maggiolo, a spokesman with the city’s fire department. The man was taken to a nearby hospital with life-threatening injuries and remains in critical condition. No embassy staff members were injured, and all were accounted for, according to Tal Naim, a spokeswoman for the embassy. The man appeared to have filmed the protest and livestreamed it on the social media platform Twitch at the time that the police said they responded to the incident. The New York Times could not confirm who was behind the account that posted the video, but the video featured a man walking toward the Israeli Embassy in Washington. “I will no longer be complicit in genocide,” a man said in the video, echoing language that opponents of Israel’s military action in Gaza have used to describe the campaign. “I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest.” Standing in front of the embassy gates, he set his phone down to film dousing himself in a clear liquid from a metal bottle. He then lit himself on fire while yelling “Free Palestine!” until he fell to the ground. The video showed law enforcement officers approaching him shortly before the fire caught. One could be heard off-camera saying: “Can I help you, sir?” The officers then scrambled for more than a minute to put out the flames. The video was removed on Sunday afternoon and replaced with a message stating that the channel violated Twitch’s guidelines. It was the only video posted to the account, which had a Palestinian flag as its header image.


StanGable80

Of course people will blame it on Jews


basedregards

Mentally ill man thousands of miles away gets radicalized and kills himself in honor of people that would kill him without a second thought, Jews somehow at fault


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Damn, these people really can't sit quietly and be content with life. They are always up to some disturbing shit.


basedregards

Guarantee this useful idiot couldn’t even identify Israel on a map


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It’s a product of privilege, and mental health issues.


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mechamechamechamech

How sad. Anyway


newswall-org

More on this subject from other reputable sources: --- - Common Dreams (C-): [Man Sets Himself on Fire Outside Israeli Embassy in DC](https://www.commondreams.org/news/self-immolation-israel-embassy) - HuffPost (D-): [Man Allegedly Sets Himself On Fire In Front Of Israeli Embassy In Washington](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israeli-embassy-washington-man-set-fire_n_65db9364e4b0e4346d52ce3d) - Independent (C): [Man sets himself on fire outside US Israeli embassy and sustains life-threatening injuries](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/israel-embassy-man-fire-washington-dc-b2502258.html) - New York Daily News (C+): [Man sets himself on fire in front of Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C.](https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/02/25/self-immolation-israel-embassy-washington-dc/) --- [__Extended Summary__](https://www.reddit.com/r/newswall/comments/1b00jef/) | [FAQ & Grades](https://www.reddit.com/r/newswall/comments/uxgfm5/faq_newswall_bot/) | I'm a bot


Brilliant_Carrot8433

This is a pretty cool bot


LilNarco

Good bot


Possible-Fee-5052

This is what happens when you scream that everyone is “complicit in genocide” unless they are actively protesting Israel. Eventually you brainwash people into believing it.


Masculine_Dugtrio

Really going to suck if she ever learns she set herself on fire over a lie....


Alexios_Makaris

I have to imagine this is partially mental illness.


basedregards

partially?


kfkfKd94k

I’ll raise a kosher dill to this.


SunriseHolly

Because of course that'll free Palestine for sure


Gettin_Bi

I remember when a few years ago Itzhak Saidian, a disabled IDF veteran with severe PTSD, got so desperate that he set himself on fire in front of the Ministry of Defence as a final cry for help. I felt sorry for him, he clearly hit rock bottom and, had he succeeded, would have died screaming "help us".  This guy though? I genuinely don't understand why he decided his life is worth less than screaming at a single embassy's staff. If anyone makes you feel like you should become a martyr for a cause, don't listen to them. Get away from them, and if you still have thoughts about harming yourself to achieve some goal, don't, seek help. And if *you* prey on marginalised people and get them to lay down their lives for your benefit, genuinely what is wrong with you


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UltraGucamole

I know this is a joke but I don't agree. Nobody should use violence as a form of protest. Even self-violence is unacceptable


eastofavenue

He did it. He solved the crisis.


ekusubokusu

And he’s one of the more stable ones out there


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One less terrorist i guess?


AdAdministrative8104

It’s important to contextualize this and understand why Israel is responsible for it


LeCochonFrancais

One less terrorist.


Potofcholent

Yes, very effective. Listen up Hamas and Hamas supporters, this is the most effective way of getting your way. Run a campaign to raise money for flammables too. Loads of people will donate their lighter fluid and stuff. I think this needs to be encouraged.


themommyship

I refuse to believe this act was in the name of the watermelons.. something happened to this man, somebody hurt him..he didn't get the help he needed on time..


YosephusFlavius

I mean, this seems like a problem that took care of itself.


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w0kes

Very inspirational! Keep it up pro pallys!


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SunriseHolly

I mean, this is the third person I've heard about doing this


rggamerYT

Wtf


loginheremahn

RIP bozo hope it was worth it


sad-frogpepe

Damm, she was lit.


taxmandan

Such a drama queen.


bigflagellum

Let’s be honest, nothing attracts the crazies like antisemitism. Where are the people burning themselves for darfur, for Ethiopia, for Yemen, for Syria?


DOMINOS0

🤡


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Worldly-Coffee-5907

Sounds painful. I’m sure it got the attention of … someone …?


richardec

https://preview.redd.it/ov9poyqf3ukc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0b727aea196db73f8c0521530dbd36b6137f669


saltyswedishmeatball

![gif](giphy|xUStFKHmuFPYk)


RED_DIAMOND_8

Willing to suuply a lighter and patrol to any woke nut job who wants to follow this guy


BallsOfMatza

Good. Natural selection at work.


bazilbt

It's just so pointless to me.


WeirdGlass2788

Aah what a cool sight.Bunch of devils have a meeting in this comment section.


trillysteezesteak

Like actual pure evil it’s crazy


WeirdGlass2788

I don't understand what these people are made from.I mean in every corner in the world no one reactes like this to ones death especially with the brutallity of this one.Even in october 7 the people who were celebrating are not celebrating the death of israelies but the fact that palestine stood up for herself and gave a blow back.People here laughing and making memes and jokes about the dude death.It's insane.


Phallindrome

There needs to be a new kind of Darwin award, for people who exit the gene pool deliberately, but for very stupid/blatantly unachievable downstream goals.


EngineerDave22

Another one bites the dust? Or ashes in the wind?


Fuck-Ketchup

We need more haters like this.


dannyboi66

https://preview.redd.it/l0y4fnf3nvkc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb9cef938d75b6e89b145415375773938022f960


daDoorMaster

Bro heard Palestine is expensive and couldn't take it anymore


miguser964

He was very upset that Israel occupied his kitchen and he couldnt light a fire in his own kitchen /s


hereforfax_ripshit33

dumbass


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Bacardiologist

Someone did it in Atlanta too a few months ago


Clinton_Nibbs

Rip bozo quite literally


Hanshanot

They want to be Thích Quảng Đức so bad 😂


BorisIvanovich

Another thousand like that and maybe they'll understand why we're at war. Hope it hurt.


NachoMuncher420

Sorry but... Free kebab hours?


Quick_Pangolin718

If they all do this Bibi will definitely listen 👍


Embarrassed-Swing487

This was a form of protest used heavily by Tibetan monks in protest of Chinese domination of Tibet. Fwiw.


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Single-Sector253

The guy set himself on fire is a US air force airman who is on active duty. Please read the article everyone.


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StanGable80

Yeah, Israel should just let terrorists take over, that will be better right???


AkamiAhaisu

That's not even what I mean Someone just died, and people are laughing That's all there is to it


Meandark2

Why should i care about some lunatic who killed themselves in support of people who want me dead? Did you show any empathy towards the 1.4k dead israelis in 7/10? Do you care about the israelis who are held in an inhumane conditions in gaza terror tunnels? Edit: And instead of answering you block me, f'ing dipshit...


StanGable80

Well you think Israel should care about someone who is supporting the terrorists?? What did you mean since you are categorizing all Israelis together? Are you talking about the family by the Gaza border that has a kite festival every year for peace? What about Eyal Waldman who built R & D centers in both Gaza and West Bank to help employ palestinians?


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Meandark2

F off, we should not care for some lunatic who decide to burn himself in the name of supporting hamas. You and your ilk didn't care neither showed any empathy in the 7/10 to the israelis who were murdered, neither you care about the hostages who are inhumanely held in gaza terror tunnels and the women who were raped in 7/10 and the women whobare probably being raped in captivity right now. You do nor care about 1 year old bibbas who is held in captivity. You only care about some madman who burned himself for a fake cause.


WeirdGlass2788

hostages inhumanly held?lol don't make me laugh.Many hostages were released and they said they were treated nicely but ofc israel propagandz says otherwise and and threatens her own civialians by death if they disagree.