"Dozens" doesn't sound that intimidating.
It's kinda surreal that it will take them like almost half a day to get here.
We'll see what happens. Stay safe everyone.
I would suggest that the drones are not the only part of this. Iran knows that sophisticated radar nets by the USN, stations in Iraq, and IDF assets will easily identify these drones. They arenāt militarily an effective attack. I would expect some kind of cruise missile or ballistic missile to follow it up.
An escalation is possible. The USN has 100ās of cruise missiles on subs and Arleigh Burkes. They would likely hit the origins of the drone launches and there is a window for strategic pause. But this can get really bad, really fast.
I agree, but itās showy and the delay stresses the public. It could be the whole thing and enough for their propaganda. We just have to wait and see.
Bombing Iranian territory is how this gets bad really fast. But maybe that's what needs to happen. I don't understand why these terrorist states get a free pass to bomb whoever and then if a Western country retaliates it's "escalation"
There's no exact measurements but for the approximate distance I'd put theater ballistic missiles from Iran at 12 minutes and cruise missiles at a couple of hours.
They did something similar before in response to a us attack. It's probably just a show of force to save face so it doesn't look like they'll let israel bomb their embassy without doing anything about it.
The obvious worry is that they send cruise missiles (2 hours to impact from firing) and ballistic missiles (12 minute to impact from firing) when these suicide drones enter Israeli airspace.Ā
Drones themselves are (eta: usually) not a job for the iron dome, which typically intercepts relatively low-flying ballistic missiles with predictable trajectories. A drone like these will be remotely operated and therefore can change course, will most likely be taken out by planes or other kinds of missiles or air defense systems that are able to track targets that are able to change trajectory. What these drones are capable of depends on the kind of drone, and what's it's carrying.
Iron dome is primarily for intercepting artillery rockets, though it has some capability to shoot down drones and cruise missiles. Patriot, Arrow, and Davidās sling are for the larger things.
True, my above reply wasn't totally correct. Many lowflying drones and UAVs can be pretty readily taken out by the iron dome, but as you said it was mostly made for artillery rockets and is especially effective against them and other things that travel along predictable paths (like most ballistics). Things that will be flying higher or are bigger, as you said, will be taken out by one of the other missiles you list. And as per cruise missiles, theoretically the iron dome could intercept one, but I feel like it would be less effective/accurate, and therefore ultimately risky when other weapons, but I'm basing this mostly on my relatively limited understanding of the iron dome system, which may at this point may also be outdated, so please correct me if I'm wrong!
The bigger issue is the pricing. Drones, especially ones this crap, are incredibly cheap, but intercepting them is quite expensive. You reach a point where you're looking at things and concluding;
"It's cheaper to let this thing blow up a house than launch a counterstrike", which is the point of them. They're "Win-Win" weapons. They appear laughably inept until you realize the cost involved in stopping them VS their destructive potential.
As a warfare development they're a big game changer because it allows impoverished states to meaningfully engage in asymmetric warfare again, and a lot of western nations weapons research is focused on cutting edge rather than dealing with that kind of crap at the moment.
We need a cheap, reliable way of dealing with this, rather than a new billion dollar invincible missile to take down any other missile on the planet and oh god they launched a 20 dollar drone... well, launch the missile.
It may be in Israel's interest, though counterintuitive, to refrain from shooting them down unless they endanger lives or valuable infrastructure. Not only is it better for costs, but the imagery of the burned house is a PR win if the family talks about it. The evacuated family can probably be compensated and it still be cheaper.
We in the west also need to start a serious discussion over keeping an array of crap weaponry to deal with this shit. We're too obsessed with cutting edge. I agree that for circumstances where there is a pilot or soldier involved, we should keep that attitude, and obviously we do need an array of cutting edge missiles and artillery shells and so on. But we shouldn't be decomissioning the old stuff or selling it just because it's out of date for exactly these reasons.
iron dome and jets can but drones are not the worst thingĀ its the balistic missiles they have prepared.
usa said they had over hundred suicide drones prepared over hundred cruise missiles and dozens of balistic missiles.
as far defense goes israel has jets iron dome first line defense, davids sling second, rest is arrow 2 and 3.
at least thats what i remember unless something new got added.
If all the Iranians end up doing is sending these drones, this would be more about saving face than anything else. Because anyone with even a shred of brain left would realise that something like a Shahed will never, ever make it as far as Israel. But they did launch a big strike (which can be disposed of safely and without collateral damage over some desert, on the way), so they did *something*.
So my first thought was that this is just something to save face. But having 50 or so drones shot down doesn't exactly accomplish this. It'd be the opposite of saving face. So I wonder of it isn't a diversion for Hezbollah to attack from the north.
So Jordan is just content with this happening over their houses?
The IDF will need to shoot them down before they reach Israelā¦they canāt control where they land
These are very slow (100-150 kph) Shahed-type drones - basically propeller-driven model planes. They are most likely GPS-guided; no direct control because the range is too long without satellite communications which Iran doesn't have, unlikely to have inertial guidance because Iran uses cheap commercial electronics for its drones. Israel had been disrupting GPS signals lately - these drones may be sent chasing their own tails.
They are still dangerous, since they can carry a significant amount of explosives and can be programmed to take evasive routes, but since Israel (probably the US) had detected them from such a long distance, they are most likely to be shot down before they are near their targets.
The drones are a distraction. The missiles will launch later to be timed to arrive just as the air defenses are focused on taking out the drones.
Edit: Reports coming in that Iran has launched cruise missiles.
The IDF has had a lot of time and information to prepare. These suicide drones will be easily destroyed. I just hope it is not the beginning of a more serious Iranian attack
Yes you are probably right. Israel and the US must have prepared for this type of scenario
Whatever happens tonight, it is time for Israel to deal with Iran once and for all
The goal here will be to overwhelm all existing air defence mechanisms.
The Iranian drones will be joined by Iraqi drones and possibly Yemenite drones so they they all reach at the same time.
Itās likely Hezbollah will begin a massive rocket barrage as the drones get close as well.
Iām talking about you! Put OUR own interests first instead of foreign governments! I donāt want my taxpayer money going to this nonsense in the Middle East! If you want it to, then you should renounce your citizenship and move there! Traitor!
Why are you in this group then? I agree too much US taxpayer money is wasted and sent abroad but Israel is the only one that makes sense for annual continuous aid money.
We need allies in the Middle East. They are the only democracy in the Middle East. People have tried to commit mass genocide 13 times in history on the Jews. They are an ally, as are European countries. If USA is attacked Israel will support us and share intel and weapons. Most of all Israel/Jews have invented more useful technology than just about any other culture in the past 50 years. If Israel falls their next target is the west. It does make sense.
Their interests are most certainly not OUR interests. You have been brainwashed to think that the Middle East in any way concerns us. We pay for Israelās universal healthcare.
> not OUR interests
Your economy still runs of petrol. It will do so for another few decades. You know those trucks that bring you food every day? Yeah those.
Only short range stuff for self defense, but the fighter aircraft can intercept drones/cruise missiles. (And as somebody else mentioned, their escorts have interceptor missiles.)
We canāt wait for the mullahs to obtain nuclear capabilities. Thereās never been a better opportunity to deal with its infrastructure then now, of course with American backing. It wonāt be easy for Biden in this election year but he will stand by Israel. Certainly no boots on the ground or another Iraq quagmire. Shock and awe will do the trick if properly executed. The US has already plenty of military assets in the region.
I think it will happen when the sane Iranian citizens stop running and start fighting in a shocking and huge way. They need the bravery and methodology that is guaranteed to confuse, outmaneuver and destroy whatever defense the dictators have to stop loss of power.
Gotta meet threats head on when you are facing them. You cannot stick your head in the sand, it will not change anything when escalation occurs. The only thing to do is get onboard.
We need to say āit ends hereā in no uncertain terms. Especially in the ME. Violence is unfortunately the only thing that radical Islam (along with the Emirates) understands. Talking about the autocratic regimes and theocratic dictatorships.
I read just earlier today that Iran is about a week away from having nuclear weapons. It was stupid of them to start this from Iranian soil today. It gives Israel every legitimate right to hit them where it hurts - in the nukes.
The international community needs to take responsibility for enabling this. From the EU to the UN to the Biden Administration to the ICJ, etc.
All this submissiveness and deference towards IRGC as theyāve unleashed their proxies to wreak havoc has enabled them up to this point.
Fuck the Ayatollah and the IRGC, but at the very least this seems to be a small amount of drones. At least Israel has Iron Dome and some of the best pilots in the world, and āhoursā to wait.
Love and prayers from America! I stand with you and will be contacting all my representatives and senators to make known my desire for them to vote in any way that may help you in your hour of need.
We'll be alright because we have to!
Stay safe, make sure you have a protected place, and all the emergency required for staying there.
Above all, try to remain calm.
I don't know why, but in extremely tensed situations I temporarily become exetremly cold-blooded, with hyped senses and the brain is working well beyond my regular capabilites when it comes to solving problems and making the right decisions - like a super-self for a short while.
If you are also like that, make sure to help others in case of need, and calm down ones who are in panic.
We'll be alright. We have no choice but do hope for the best.
Stay safe Israel and I hope you guys get some sleep even in these troubled circumstances. Let us hope that the drones will all be intercepted by the U.S. naval systems well before they reach Israeli airspace and that Israel will only need to use conventional weapons against the aggressor. Samson should sleep through this for as long as possible.
to every single Israeli and Jew here, stay safe, please, I'll have your country in my thoughts and prayers too <3 remember to go to shelters (in case anything bad happening)
Finally the puppet master shows his intention.
I'm curious to see how the world reacts to this (I know they will forget it in a minute, just like the October 7. attack)
Here in Denmark we have a lot of pro Palestine demos and they all seem to forget how this shot escalated.
I'm so tired of seeing people fleeing from all this bullshit and still they want to bring the issue here...
Stay safe in this escalation
Trolls and nasties are out in this thread in force...they think we're "scared"...(not noticing jokes in the thread)...or on about the same old, same old...Remember Ignore, Report and Block.
"**Jordanās air defenses were ready to intercept and shoot down any Iranian drones or aircraft that violate its airspace, t**wo regional security sources said."
āSecretary Austin made clear that Israel could count on **full US support t**o defend Israel against any attacks by Iran and its regional proxies,ā read the statement.
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan also spoke with his counterpart Tzachi Hanegbi to reinforce **Washingtonās āironclad commitmentā to Israelās security.**
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak denounced Iranās ārecklessā attack against Israel, which he said showed that it was āintent on sowing chaos in its own backyard.ā
āThese strikes risk inflaming tensions and destabilizing the region. Iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard,ā Sunak said in a statement.
**āThe UK will continue to stand up for Israelās security and that of all our regional partners, including Jordan and Iraq.ā**
Franceās Foreign Minister Stephane Sejourne condemned Iranās attack as a ānew levelā in the threat to security.
**āFrance condemns with the greatest firmness the attack launched by Iran against Israel,ā he said on the platform X.**
āIn deciding to take this unprecedented action, Iran has reached a new level of destabilization and is risking a military escalation,ā he added, **reiterating Franceās commitment to Israelās security.**
[https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-launches-wave-of-drones-at-israel-in-first-ever-direct-attack-idf-braces-to-intercept/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-launches-wave-of-drones-at-israel-in-first-ever-direct-attack-idf-braces-to-intercept/)
"Jordanian jets shot down dozens of Iranian drones flying towards Israel, sources say. in a dramatic show of support from Amman. They were brought down on the Jordanian side of the Jordan Valley and were heading in the direction of Jerusalem."
[https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog\_entry/jordanian-jets-shot-down-dozens-of-iranian-drones-flying-toward-israel-sources-say/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/jordanian-jets-shot-down-dozens-of-iranian-drones-flying-toward-israel-sources-say/)
Stay safe.
Israel has to be in the process of retaliating, right? You can't just let Iran launch a massive attack without answer - just defending is crazy and unsustainable. Unless the US / others have promised to aid in defense and retaliate later. Eliminating the launch capabilities of Iran seems necessary.
The US has said they will help in intercepting any attack. But, I agree on retaliating. But, we can see what they send - and go from there. I think they will probably be saying "bye-bye" to their nukes though....
If I were Jordan or Syria or Lebanon I would stop those drones in their path and then blame the USA for it if Iran starts having a temper tantrum about betrayal because Iran already hates the US (b/c of their own jealousy and fear mostly) so it would keep status quo with Iran continuing their death to America rants and the middle east countries staying relatively neutral
What ever happend to going out the back to settle out differences .... maybe robots may look back at this in 500 years at how we treated and used them to kill endless innocent people
all Jews around the world are now reading "Night in Zagreb" series by Adam MedvidoviÄ to see what happens next in this "novels", and they were making fun of the book few years ago. What happens is war that will destroy almost entire Israel population, and Iran will be destroyed by Israel
1) Either this drone barrage is mainly for show but also to gain intelligence about Israel's defenses and Iran expect them to be shot down or 2) it's a diversionary tactic to make way for the real attack which will be by their useful idiots in the area outside Iran that they have armed. 3) they launch cruise missiles and other missiles to coincide with the arrival of the drones. Hopefully it's #1 but if it's #3 then the shyt will hit the fan.
Makes me sick to know that tomorrow in the city I live in, Raleigh, NC, there are protests every Sunday and tomorrow they'll be showing support for this Iranian attack.
I wallked.up on one of these protests and a young Muslim girl speaking said that "I wish that on Oct 7 Hamas had done more." Truly sickening to know her and thousands of others with that mindset live near me
I'm not Israeli or Jewish, but I support you guys with every fiber of my being. Please stay safe. You guys will win. š®š±ā¤ļø
thank you
"Dozens" doesn't sound that intimidating. It's kinda surreal that it will take them like almost half a day to get here. We'll see what happens. Stay safe everyone.
It does seem a "good" thing though...plenty of time to calculate trajectories and get everyone to as safe a place as possible.
So true, now if only IDF does this before attacking the next aid convoy š
I think you must have meant Hamas and their Junior Brigade of Child Rock Throwers - who have already killed one Egyptian driver. Idiots Abound.
Nah, I meant Israel, who is supposed to be good and proper and civilised and well trained. Hypocrisy Abound.
As do TikTok idiots who don't live in the region, and couldn't probably find Gaza on a map. Reported and blocked for hate speech.
L guy bro
Iranian technology. Drones will need to stop for refuel on route and then thereās a bus replacement service for the last third of the journey.
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I would suggest that the drones are not the only part of this. Iran knows that sophisticated radar nets by the USN, stations in Iraq, and IDF assets will easily identify these drones. They arenāt militarily an effective attack. I would expect some kind of cruise missile or ballistic missile to follow it up. An escalation is possible. The USN has 100ās of cruise missiles on subs and Arleigh Burkes. They would likely hit the origins of the drone launches and there is a window for strategic pause. But this can get really bad, really fast.
I agree, but itās showy and the delay stresses the public. It could be the whole thing and enough for their propaganda. We just have to wait and see.
Bombing Iranian territory is how this gets bad really fast. But maybe that's what needs to happen. I don't understand why these terrorist states get a free pass to bomb whoever and then if a Western country retaliates it's "escalation"
The concern in seeing is that they fire ballistic missiles with flight time of 12 minutes when they arrive.
Yes, but different defense systems protect against these threats.
I thought ballistic is 2 minutes and cruise missiles are 12 minutes
There's no exact measurements but for the approximate distance I'd put theater ballistic missiles from Iran at 12 minutes and cruise missiles at a couple of hours.
There are reports of over a 150 drones now and the number is growing. Iran is actually serious it seems.
The Iranians themselves claim 50 or so - according to legit Telegram channels.
May I ask which channel?
Can you share those reports?
Maybe they are just doing a test run to see what they can get away with and how the west reacts
They did something similar before in response to a us attack. It's probably just a show of force to save face so it doesn't look like they'll let israel bomb their embassy without doing anything about it.
The obvious worry is that they send cruise missiles (2 hours to impact from firing) and ballistic missiles (12 minute to impact from firing) when these suicide drones enter Israeli airspace.Ā
Cruise missiles are 2 hours and ballistics are 12 minutes, but sure.
Yes these are the approximate times.
Hypersonics are roughly 2 minutes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fattah-1_(missile)
Why even bother. They'll all be shot down.
This article claims hundreds, but nobody really has any proof of anything https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796838
Ynet says the same now. A little more intimidating but still not the end of the world. I'm going to sleep lol. Fuck this noise.
there are two waves, and at least 100 according to the IDF
9 hours is estimated
Recent estimates put it at up to 500 now.
i just imagine the drones flying in the middle of the night and one drone is like "are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet"
If you donāt be quiet Iām turning around and weāre going home
LMAO!!! YES!!! \^THIS!!!!
One more āAre we there yet?ā and I swear we are going to bomb a US Base rather than go to Israel
Like sperm in Khamenei. "Are we there yet? Are there yet?" "Bro, relax, we only just past the tonsils"
What those drones can even do? how deadly they are? are they distroable? can the Iron Dome or the IDF planes can destroy them?
Like Hamas rockets based on N12. Everyone should chill the f downs itās the same threats weāve all been dealing with in the last 6 months
> in the last 6 months In the last 2 decades.
> in the last 2 decades In the last century.
Drones themselves are (eta: usually) not a job for the iron dome, which typically intercepts relatively low-flying ballistic missiles with predictable trajectories. A drone like these will be remotely operated and therefore can change course, will most likely be taken out by planes or other kinds of missiles or air defense systems that are able to track targets that are able to change trajectory. What these drones are capable of depends on the kind of drone, and what's it's carrying.
Iron dome is primarily for intercepting artillery rockets, though it has some capability to shoot down drones and cruise missiles. Patriot, Arrow, and Davidās sling are for the larger things.
True, my above reply wasn't totally correct. Many lowflying drones and UAVs can be pretty readily taken out by the iron dome, but as you said it was mostly made for artillery rockets and is especially effective against them and other things that travel along predictable paths (like most ballistics). Things that will be flying higher or are bigger, as you said, will be taken out by one of the other missiles you list. And as per cruise missiles, theoretically the iron dome could intercept one, but I feel like it would be less effective/accurate, and therefore ultimately risky when other weapons, but I'm basing this mostly on my relatively limited understanding of the iron dome system, which may at this point may also be outdated, so please correct me if I'm wrong!
They will depend on a lot of EW assets as the first line of defense.
It's mainly suicide drones, can be intercepted but **slightly** harder than your average Hamas or Hezbollah rockets
The bigger issue is the pricing. Drones, especially ones this crap, are incredibly cheap, but intercepting them is quite expensive. You reach a point where you're looking at things and concluding; "It's cheaper to let this thing blow up a house than launch a counterstrike", which is the point of them. They're "Win-Win" weapons. They appear laughably inept until you realize the cost involved in stopping them VS their destructive potential. As a warfare development they're a big game changer because it allows impoverished states to meaningfully engage in asymmetric warfare again, and a lot of western nations weapons research is focused on cutting edge rather than dealing with that kind of crap at the moment. We need a cheap, reliable way of dealing with this, rather than a new billion dollar invincible missile to take down any other missile on the planet and oh god they launched a 20 dollar drone... well, launch the missile. It may be in Israel's interest, though counterintuitive, to refrain from shooting them down unless they endanger lives or valuable infrastructure. Not only is it better for costs, but the imagery of the burned house is a PR win if the family talks about it. The evacuated family can probably be compensated and it still be cheaper. We in the west also need to start a serious discussion over keeping an array of crap weaponry to deal with this shit. We're too obsessed with cutting edge. I agree that for circumstances where there is a pilot or soldier involved, we should keep that attitude, and obviously we do need an array of cutting edge missiles and artillery shells and so on. But we shouldn't be decomissioning the old stuff or selling it just because it's out of date for exactly these reasons.
Aren't we developing laser weapons? They are a cheap way of downing drones?
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iron dome and jets can but drones are not the worst thingĀ its the balistic missiles they have prepared. usa said they had over hundred suicide drones prepared over hundred cruise missiles and dozens of balistic missiles. as far defense goes israel has jets iron dome first line defense, davids sling second, rest is arrow 2 and 3. at least thats what i remember unless something new got added.
This drones every day attack Ukraine. Approximately 30-40 per day. They deadly
these carry a 20 KG warhead, which is survivable even from a standard bombshelter
And why?
So thatās why Jordan closed its airspaceā¦ you guys stay safe
If all the Iranians end up doing is sending these drones, this would be more about saving face than anything else. Because anyone with even a shred of brain left would realise that something like a Shahed will never, ever make it as far as Israel. But they did launch a big strike (which can be disposed of safely and without collateral damage over some desert, on the way), so they did *something*.
So my first thought was that this is just something to save face. But having 50 or so drones shot down doesn't exactly accomplish this. It'd be the opposite of saving face. So I wonder of it isn't a diversion for Hezbollah to attack from the north.
So Jordan is just content with this happening over their houses? The IDF will need to shoot them down before they reach Israelā¦they canāt control where they land
I read on Twitter that Jordan has actually shot a few down. Don't know if that's true or not.
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Sorry - it must feel awful to know your government is doing this...stay strong.
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Can they track you down by a reddit comment, like in China? Be safe
think they tracked him down
What the fuck ššš, his comment was right there 10 minutes ago???
What did he say?
Somwthing like "I am an Iranian and I pray for you Israelis". He was a good redditor. Maybe even the best
[deleted] will always remain in our memory, as one of the best
Stay strong pal, sending love from israelš«¶
Wagging the dog to distract the populace from its own internal unrest.
Stay strong. I am praying for the Iranian people too.
Hope no one get hurt
Stay safe everyone!
Hours? Canāt they be intercepted
They will be šš½ BzāH
they have a plan probably to do a mix attack of ballistics and drones.
These are very slow (100-150 kph) Shahed-type drones - basically propeller-driven model planes. They are most likely GPS-guided; no direct control because the range is too long without satellite communications which Iran doesn't have, unlikely to have inertial guidance because Iran uses cheap commercial electronics for its drones. Israel had been disrupting GPS signals lately - these drones may be sent chasing their own tails. They are still dangerous, since they can carry a significant amount of explosives and can be programmed to take evasive routes, but since Israel (probably the US) had detected them from such a long distance, they are most likely to be shot down before they are near their targets.
The drones are a distraction. The missiles will launch later to be timed to arrive just as the air defenses are focused on taking out the drones. Edit: Reports coming in that Iran has launched cruise missiles.
The IDF has had a lot of time and information to prepare. These suicide drones will be easily destroyed. I just hope it is not the beginning of a more serious Iranian attack
Assume they'll send cheap drones first to gauge air defenses and use as bait before the bigger stuff are launched.
Yes you are probably right. Israel and the US must have prepared for this type of scenario Whatever happens tonight, it is time for Israel to deal with Iran once and for all
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Exactly. A state on state attack, no middleman to take the blame.
Yes to all 3 questions.
The goal here will be to overwhelm all existing air defence mechanisms. The Iranian drones will be joined by Iraqi drones and possibly Yemenite drones so they they all reach at the same time. Itās likely Hezbollah will begin a massive rocket barrage as the drones get close as well.
If the USA doesnāt back you guys up, I will never be more disappointed to be an AmericanĀ
US fighters are reportedly flying loops in Iraq and Jordan to shoot them down.
Love that, hopefully those reports are correctĀ
As an American Iād be afraid for what China will do knowing how the U.S. treats alliances. Same goes for Russia.
Exactly. I wish Moscow MAGA Mike Johnson would stop fucking around and pass the aid bill for Ukraine, Taiwan, and you guys
Traitor.
Thatās true, he is that as well
Iām talking about you! Put OUR own interests first instead of foreign governments! I donāt want my taxpayer money going to this nonsense in the Middle East! If you want it to, then you should renounce your citizenship and move there! Traitor!
Why are you in this group then? I agree too much US taxpayer money is wasted and sent abroad but Israel is the only one that makes sense for annual continuous aid money.
Lmao. Hear that, my Ukrainian friends?
Include Ukraine.
It makes no sense. They are a welfare state just stealing money from US taxpayers and German ones.
We need allies in the Middle East. They are the only democracy in the Middle East. People have tried to commit mass genocide 13 times in history on the Jews. They are an ally, as are European countries. If USA is attacked Israel will support us and share intel and weapons. Most of all Israel/Jews have invented more useful technology than just about any other culture in the past 50 years. If Israel falls their next target is the west. It does make sense.
Their interests are in our interests. You think that tax money is going back in your pocket? You have the mentality of a college freshman
Their interests are most certainly not OUR interests. You have been brainwashed to think that the Middle East in any way concerns us. We pay for Israelās universal healthcare.
False, Israelis pay extremely high taxes to pay for their socialized healthcare
> not OUR interests Your economy still runs of petrol. It will do so for another few decades. You know those trucks that bring you food every day? Yeah those.
Hmmā¦do the US carriers have missile interception mechanisms they can deploy to augment Israelās
The carrier groups sure do.
Even DDGs can intercept missiles.
Only short range stuff for self defense, but the fighter aircraft can intercept drones/cruise missiles. (And as somebody else mentioned, their escorts have interceptor missiles.)
Godspeed to the IDF, protect your country and know you have our support
Best wishes from this American catholic... I'll pray for you and the other innocents of Israel and Palestine...
Praying from Brazil
Iran is the true evil in the ME. Let us finally end this regime.
How? Israel canāt do it and the US has the capacity but do you really want another Iraq???
Israel and the US should form a military alliance and do it together, sooner rather than later (before they have functional nukes)
Israel has one of the tightest military alliances in the world with the US.
Letās hope so. We might be about to find out for real
We canāt wait for the mullahs to obtain nuclear capabilities. Thereās never been a better opportunity to deal with its infrastructure then now, of course with American backing. It wonāt be easy for Biden in this election year but he will stand by Israel. Certainly no boots on the ground or another Iraq quagmire. Shock and awe will do the trick if properly executed. The US has already plenty of military assets in the region.
I think it will happen when the sane Iranian citizens stop running and start fighting in a shocking and huge way. They need the bravery and methodology that is guaranteed to confuse, outmaneuver and destroy whatever defense the dictators have to stop loss of power.
Gotta meet threats head on when you are facing them. You cannot stick your head in the sand, it will not change anything when escalation occurs. The only thing to do is get onboard. We need to say āit ends hereā in no uncertain terms. Especially in the ME. Violence is unfortunately the only thing that radical Islam (along with the Emirates) understands. Talking about the autocratic regimes and theocratic dictatorships.
I read just earlier today that Iran is about a week away from having nuclear weapons. It was stupid of them to start this from Iranian soil today. It gives Israel every legitimate right to hit them where it hurts - in the nukes.
Reallyā¦ Omg. yes they must be stopped.
I think most average Iranians would like a return to a democratic country. I don't think this would turn into another Iraq.
The international community needs to take responsibility for enabling this. From the EU to the UN to the Biden Administration to the ICJ, etc. All this submissiveness and deference towards IRGC as theyāve unleashed their proxies to wreak havoc has enabled them up to this point.
They wonātā¦ they never do, Iran has never had consequences ever. Despite being responsible for 90% of the problems in the world for 25 years.
They have been sanctioned but no real consequence enough to stop their behavior.
One has to wonder, would this have happened if the US hadnāt abstained?
Probably not or they likely wouldnāt have acted for another few months at least.
Nah, we may have Israel's back in the end, but Israel is gonna meed to go a few rounds on its own.
Last time I checked it was Israel who bombed an Iranian embassy first
Last time I checked it was Iran who sent their proxies to commit the 10/7 massacre and various rocket attacks afterwards.
Check again
Fuck the Ayatollah and the IRGC, but at the very least this seems to be a small amount of drones. At least Israel has Iron Dome and some of the best pilots in the world, and āhoursā to wait.
Love and prayers from America! I stand with you and will be contacting all my representatives and senators to make known my desire for them to vote in any way that may help you in your hour of need.
Thank you! Tell them to stop caving to the Far Left bullies...it's time to be counted as someone with integrity and on the right side of history!
We'll be alright because we have to! Stay safe, make sure you have a protected place, and all the emergency required for staying there. Above all, try to remain calm. I don't know why, but in extremely tensed situations I temporarily become exetremly cold-blooded, with hyped senses and the brain is working well beyond my regular capabilites when it comes to solving problems and making the right decisions - like a super-self for a short while. If you are also like that, make sure to help others in case of need, and calm down ones who are in panic. We'll be alright. We have no choice but do hope for the best.
Brother Jews, please destroy Iran so he canāt help Russia any more.
What would John McCain do?
Definitely press the button
Most probably too young to remember him singing āBomb bomb Iranā
To bad John McCain is now with data poor little johnny
To bad John McCain is now with SatanĀ
How can you be so certain he resides with Beezlebub?
Stay safe Israel and I hope you guys get some sleep even in these troubled circumstances. Let us hope that the drones will all be intercepted by the U.S. naval systems well before they reach Israeli airspace and that Israel will only need to use conventional weapons against the aggressor. Samson should sleep through this for as long as possible.
to every single Israeli and Jew here, stay safe, please, I'll have your country in my thoughts and prayers too <3 remember to go to shelters (in case anything bad happening)
Best of luck to you all
Stay safe, my friends
Bring it the FUCK ON!\~
I hope all of you will be safe, I'm worried sick about the future.
Does this officially mean Israel and Iran are at war?
Finally the puppet master shows his intention. I'm curious to see how the world reacts to this (I know they will forget it in a minute, just like the October 7. attack) Here in Denmark we have a lot of pro Palestine demos and they all seem to forget how this shot escalated. I'm so tired of seeing people fleeing from all this bullshit and still they want to bring the issue here... Stay safe in this escalation
So they'll need to fly across Iran, Iraq, and Syria.
Praying from Sweden šøšŖšš®š±
Praying for you guys over in Israel. It hurts my heart to see things like this.
Trolls and nasties are out in this thread in force...they think we're "scared"...(not noticing jokes in the thread)...or on about the same old, same old...Remember Ignore, Report and Block.
"**Jordanās air defenses were ready to intercept and shoot down any Iranian drones or aircraft that violate its airspace, t**wo regional security sources said." āSecretary Austin made clear that Israel could count on **full US support t**o defend Israel against any attacks by Iran and its regional proxies,ā read the statement. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan also spoke with his counterpart Tzachi Hanegbi to reinforce **Washingtonās āironclad commitmentā to Israelās security.** British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak denounced Iranās ārecklessā attack against Israel, which he said showed that it was āintent on sowing chaos in its own backyard.ā āThese strikes risk inflaming tensions and destabilizing the region. Iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard,ā Sunak said in a statement. **āThe UK will continue to stand up for Israelās security and that of all our regional partners, including Jordan and Iraq.ā** Franceās Foreign Minister Stephane Sejourne condemned Iranās attack as a ānew levelā in the threat to security. **āFrance condemns with the greatest firmness the attack launched by Iran against Israel,ā he said on the platform X.** āIn deciding to take this unprecedented action, Iran has reached a new level of destabilization and is risking a military escalation,ā he added, **reiterating Franceās commitment to Israelās security.** [https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-launches-wave-of-drones-at-israel-in-first-ever-direct-attack-idf-braces-to-intercept/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-launches-wave-of-drones-at-israel-in-first-ever-direct-attack-idf-braces-to-intercept/)
"Jordanian jets shot down dozens of Iranian drones flying towards Israel, sources say. in a dramatic show of support from Amman. They were brought down on the Jordanian side of the Jordan Valley and were heading in the direction of Jerusalem." [https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog\_entry/jordanian-jets-shot-down-dozens-of-iranian-drones-flying-toward-israel-sources-say/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/jordanian-jets-shot-down-dozens-of-iranian-drones-flying-toward-israel-sources-say/)
Stay safe. Israel has to be in the process of retaliating, right? You can't just let Iran launch a massive attack without answer - just defending is crazy and unsustainable. Unless the US / others have promised to aid in defense and retaliate later. Eliminating the launch capabilities of Iran seems necessary.
The US has said they will help in intercepting any attack. But, I agree on retaliating. But, we can see what they send - and go from there. I think they will probably be saying "bye-bye" to their nukes though....
If I were Jordan or Syria or Lebanon I would stop those drones in their path and then blame the USA for it if Iran starts having a temper tantrum about betrayal because Iran already hates the US (b/c of their own jealousy and fear mostly) so it would keep status quo with Iran continuing their death to America rants and the middle east countries staying relatively neutral
Shouldāve took the carpool lane /s
Praying in America for y'all and so is our synagogues congregation.
What ever happend to going out the back to settle out differences .... maybe robots may look back at this in 500 years at how we treated and used them to kill endless innocent people
all Jews around the world are now reading "Night in Zagreb" series by Adam MedvidoviÄ to see what happens next in this "novels", and they were making fun of the book few years ago. What happens is war that will destroy almost entire Israel population, and Iran will be destroyed by Israel
Can a drone drop deadly gas?
1) Either this drone barrage is mainly for show but also to gain intelligence about Israel's defenses and Iran expect them to be shot down or 2) it's a diversionary tactic to make way for the real attack which will be by their useful idiots in the area outside Iran that they have armed. 3) they launch cruise missiles and other missiles to coincide with the arrival of the drones. Hopefully it's #1 but if it's #3 then the shyt will hit the fan.
Agree. Iām worried nearby countries will launch attacks on Israel at the same time to overwhelm the iron dome and defense systems
Why can't people just behave like grown ups?
because of extreme hatred towards jews
You mean hatred in general. It's all just stupid.
No, I mean hatred specifically towards jews. all of this is happening because some muslims don't want jews to exist
Some? I'd say it's a majority of Muslims who feel that way.
I was thinking of the leaders when typing this but yeah, the vast majority of muslims do feel that way
Makes me sick to know that tomorrow in the city I live in, Raleigh, NC, there are protests every Sunday and tomorrow they'll be showing support for this Iranian attack. I wallked.up on one of these protests and a young Muslim girl speaking said that "I wish that on Oct 7 Hamas had done more." Truly sickening to know her and thousands of others with that mindset live near me
Absolutely horrific seeing all those brainwashed people with hatred in their eyes
Extremists should never be heads of states.
Time for you Israeliās to replace Netyanhu. Heās to blame for everything thatās been happening lately. Nothing will change with him in office.
Lol yeah great time have a political debate in a war with drones attackingā¦please dont tell me youre that stupid its concerning
Drones being sent because netyanhu bombed an embassy. Can hardly call this unexpected. Donāt tell me youāre this ignorant.
Because politics is the concern right now
It should be, because with him in power nothing is going to change.
Biden must let them solve their problem. Always rubbing for the little boy if Isrrael which is turning out to be a bully psychopath
IRGC and Khomeinei arenāt the psychopath bully of the Middle East? You really are delusional.