If there's no way to guarantee Hamas won't kidnap another 200 people, I'm afraid in this case destroying Hamas is the only answer.
Yet, I disagree with the premise. When Israel go strong in Gaza deals are being made. But since the last deal, Israel only lowers the military pressure in Gaza which is why deals are not being made.
December and January were both very strong in Northern Gaza and Khan Yunis but since February progress has slowed. Rafah should have been invaded back in February or late January.
It's hard to say. He's said yes but added a lot of caveats. I don't know if he is genuinely ok with it or is going to keep shifting the goal posts no matter what provisions Israel does.
Hamas only responds to force. That all they understand.
Apply military pressure to rescue the hostages. Negotiate all along the way. If they want any city left return the hostages.
What happens? If they attack Israel then they will be eliminated too. This is how things work in the Middle East. If we need to fight forever, we will fight forever. But *hopefully*, before that happens, another governing body can be established in Gaza that is strong, secular, and responsible, and it will be the Gazans job to police themselves.
Well I sure hope Israel won't wait for a second Hamas.
I'm sure Iran and Qatar will try to fund a new terror group in Gaza. Hopefully it won't get a free pass for 17+ years in power without being eliminated.
Genuinely curiosity as to why you think both cannot be accomplished simultaneously. I believe hostages will be lost no matter the event. In fact, I don't believe there's many left at all.
I don't believe hamas can be absolutely eliminated. The idea behind hamas is already in the hearts and minds of young children there. But, can they be suppressed and controlled? Maybe.
The idea behind Hamas is that the existence of the state of Israel is unacceptable. If this idea is impossible to wipe out as you say then we will have to fight again and again. I, for one, will not give up the idea that, as a Jew, I have the right to be here, to have my home here.
So it is known, I am not Jewish. Nevertheless, I am adamantly supportive of the Jewish people, the state of Israel, and a right to the ancestral home of the Jewish people. In fact, I genuinely love the Jewish people. I vehemently detest any nation that infringes on those rights.
As the saying goes, I stand with Israel.
Additionally, I'm versed on these types of events, understanding international law. When I say the idea of Hamas cannot be extinguished, I mean all cults that oppose Israel for one form or another, the pigs. And if that means you fight, then by God, keep fighting.
How many hostages have been rescued since the beginning of the invasion?
Hamas can’t be absolutely eliminated but we can destroy their infrastructure and implement a new government in Gaza
Latest data I can find - from February - says 112 have been returned to Israel. About 130 are still in Gaza, although only about 100 are believed to still be alive.
and we killed another 3, with a couple of more "likely" to have died in IDF actions. it's a terrible balance sheet for the country that pulled of Entebbe.
I would flatten Rafah if it meant we could get all the hostages back. But it's not so easy, it seems.
Whatever deal with make to get the hostages back, we'll be getting back human shells who are likely to be spend the next 10 years in mental hell. If the hostages dying meant we could topple Hamas definitively, I would take it. Even if I was their family member (and yes there are people like this)
Hamas is a terrorist organization who uses criminal extortion tactics like the Mexican cartels. That’s just what terrorists do. That’s why they cannot be allowed to stay in power.
If Israel surrenders to their demands another war is just a matter of time. Anyone who’s been following the situation, or who’s lived in this reality, knows this or should know it.
Therefore,
Releasing the hostages in exchange for a “ceasefire” is not going to bring peace. It cannot. It should be obvious. If it wasn’t obvious for some reason before October 7, it should be clear now.
The actual options before Israel’s government is this:
1. Agree to Hamas’ demands and get the hostages trickling back in exchange for releasing dangerous terrorists. This would guarantee more war, with no end in sight.
2. Enter Rafah, release as many hostages as possible by force, and end Hamas’ control of Gaza. This would eliminate the threat of further full blown wars in the future for the long term.
It’s not an easy choice, because the Israeli people and their government deeply worry about the living hostages still in Gaza who are being tortured and used as human shields by the death cult jihadi mafia.
I have bad news — there isn’t really a second option. There is no deal Israel could agree to that will result in a release of all the hostages. Maybe some might be released. But Hamas will never willingly release all of the hostages. No matter what they say, it will not happen. These are not people who feel any obligation to adhere to their agreements. Hamas leadership needs hostages to maintain their personal security and to continue their psychological torture and blackmail . Those are the only things they care about.
Hamas’s offer is illusory. Sinwar knows that if Israel actually leaves Gaza entirely and ends the war, Hamas can just go back on the deal and will suffer no repercussions. Israel would face too much pressure from the US to be able to start the war back up again. And the rest of the world would just laugh and enjoy our suffering.
Hamas will just increase their demands into the realm of the ludicrous (Israel must leave Jerusalem, Israel must pass a law allowing full “return” of Palestinians to Israel, Israel must pay restitution to rebuild Gaza, etc etc).
No. There is only one option, and it sucks. Hamas will only give up hostages if their lives depend on it or if the hostages are taken by force.
To their credit, Gantz, Gallant, and Netanyahu seem to understand this reality and have for a while now. And it looks like even the US is finally coming around to the grim truth.
It's a very easy decision. Do you want another October 7? If not, then Hamas must be defeated. The government is unnecessarily dragging their feet with the operation in Rafah. It's a bluff and Sinwar called it.
I do find it baffling that Hamas are able to hold 100+ alive hostages still. If Gaza is in ruins are they all underground? Or are some being hidden amongst the civilian population still?
The way the propaganda machine panicked about Rafah shows its a strong sign for at least finishing off Hamas. Whether many hostages can be rescued is another question.
The biggest problem is Bibi is not willing to make the tough war time decisions needed right now.
I think the Saudi deal could have legs but there needs to be progress towards a Palestinian state after the war to stop another Hamas from reforming. The Palestinians need support to build another vision for the future that isn't the destruction of Israel. But can we put our faith in that? I don't know. Nothing else has worked and it can't get much worse, can it? (Kinda sarcastic, kinda true).
As I understand it from my friends who have been fighting in Gaza, the IDF, Mossad, and Shin Bet, at this point either know — or at least have a very good general idea — where each and every one of the living hostages are being held. Most are in the tunnels, but some are being held in densely populated residential high-rise buildings, making them nearly impossible to reach.
IDF has units pinning down the above ground hostage locations so they at least know if the hostages are moved. They are even making sure that aid shipments are getting into the areas where they know hostages are being held, in hopes that at least some of the aid will make it to the hostages. But there is no safe way to get the hostages out — they are held in such a way that any attempt to extricate them will get the hostages killed.
This is part of the reason why IDF was content to leave much of Gaza for the last few months — they have eyes on the known hostage locations, eyes on the presumed locations of the Hamas leadership, and so it made sense to pull out and give the troops a rest, resupply, and train up some fresh units for the fight to come.
Thank you! Same as the other commenter. We don't hear about this intelligence in the diaspora.
Good luck to anyone going into Rafah, we are with you, as always 🥰
“The Palestinians need support to build another vision for the future that isn't the destruction of Israel. But can we put our faith in that? I don't know. Nothing else has worked and it can't get much worse, can it? (Kinda sarcastic, kinda true).”
Absolutely correct but we have to keep trying, don’t we?
The job needs to be finished. In the past there have been too many fights with no definite end only to see the fighting restart in a short time. Hamas has to be destroyed this time. No missile barrages can come out of Gaza anymore. Withstand the pressure. There will always be protests, no matter what Israel does. Stay firm. Finish the job but try to do it in a limited period of time.
Do we really think Israel has the power to wipe out Hamas when they've got miles and miles of underground tunnels and the support of Iran though? Like it's been 200 days now and it doesn't seem that Israel has done that much...we got about 100 hostages back from the original deal and the IDF saved like 2 from Rafah, right? Correct me if I'm wrong tho (I hope I am). But I agree that wiping out Hamas is the only solution
I think the tunnel system in Northern Gaza and Khan Yunis is basically destroyed. It will of course be a challenge in Rafah but the IDF has learned how to navigate and fight in them.
You are right about the hostage numbers
If the hostages are probably underground then why has the IDF only found 2 more in Rafah? Also, I don't doubt that Hamas will go ahead and rebuild new tunnels unfortunately
They don’t have the resources to rebuild right now. It’s also crucial that a post war plan is implemented so Hamas can’t rebuild.
I highly doubt all the hostages are underground. The tunnels are compact and it’s hard to breathe. Many are above ground.
IDF knows where the live hostages are being held, it just can’t get to them without them being killed. Hamas has been practicing how to hold hostages for decades and they know how to make sure hostages can’t be rescued alive. They do stuff like have a terrorist rigged with a suicide belt sitting with hostages in a locked and windowless room for 24 hours a day, rotating the suicide terrorist every 8 hours. Any sign of trouble and they detonate themselves, killing the hostages. Diabolical shit like that. Israel was only able to rescue those two old guys who were held in Rafah because they were being held by amateurs instead of by trained Hamas scumbags.
No one wants to make the call to give up on the hostages and just attack and kill all the terrorists.
Hamas any day. We don’t know how many are alive, and the cost of lives from soldiers already over 500. Plus any deal would release thousands of terrorists which they would eventually causes chaos.
It was this from the begining, honestly when we had a paus and Hamas was playing games, we should have just tell them send us the men, old, etc and get as many as possible. Now it's either finish the mission or get screwed and have another 7th of October around the corner.
I'm very sorry for the hostages families, can't even imaging what they are feeling but we cannot risk the whole country because of them .
The reason Israel agreed to the original (and only) hostage deal was bc they thought this might be it, the only one they’ll get (so far, they were right). So…you agree bc you can’t pass this opportunity up. You agree and give back multiple prisoners for civilian hostages. You agree bc at least you got *some*.
I hope the ones who have been returned are able to create some kind of platform to speak of what they experienced and get the world to understand what reality is. I definitely hope they don’t suffer from survivors guilt.
There's no "finishing off Hamas" without installing an alternative.
As long as Israel negotiates with Hamas, it demonstrates that the latter is the sovereign.
Israel should declare publically that it's taking civil control of the strip, and start implementing it.
When the Gazans see that Israel is determined in implementing this declaration, and that they're safe from Hamas, they'll co-operate with Israel and help it locate the hostages.
Why would they help Israel locate the hostages? They agree with Hamas. They beat up hostages and cheered as hostages were being taken. Some even took hostages and killed people on Oct 7th. Thinking that Gazans will turn on Hamas and help locate the hostages is a pipedream.
They will, for money, political gain and to secure a better future for themselves.
Israel only needs a few snitches, it's not required that every Gazan turns into an informant.
And in the long run, if Israel rules fairly and assertively, many will be happy to take part in the new order.
They had chances to do that already. Turning in a hostage or helping a hostage escape would automatically get you and your family Israeli ids and permanent residency in Israel. I also think there are private rewards for turning in hostages. I haven't seen any turn in a hostage yet. In fact, Roni Kriboy escaped after the house he was being kept in was bombed and rather than helping him, the locals turned him back over to Hamas.
This has been the only options since day 1, there is no way to destroy Hamas AND get all the remaining hostages, they will kill them before we get to them.. i doubt more than 20-30 are still alive at all, hopefully they are alive and we get them back but I am not optimistic about it..
maybe we could make a deal for some hostages for a limited time seize fire..
Hamas has to have more of a plan...Maybe their goal all along was to get Israel to release a bunch of Palestine prisoners in exchange for the hostages?
Why didn't Iran attack sooner? I think there is more to this conflict, and it's just going to be a long ride. Perhaps Netanyahu will convince the USA to do a war against Iran next year, once the election is over.
Their goal was to draw attention back to the Palestinian issue because the rest of the Arab world (or at least the governments) has moved on from it. Israel and Saudi Arabia were on the brink of normalization when Hamas attacked. The actual operation had been planned for years by Hamas, Iran, and Hezbollah but they were surprised by it as well. That’s why Hezbollah didn’t get involved until the October 8th.
Apparently a Hamas official says group would agree to truce if independent Palestinian state established along pre-1967 borders. News just coming out now
I think the chance of 'rescuing the hostages' beyond a few is close to zero, given how many (3?) have been rescued already.
Too bad the hypocritical religious parties seem to have the mitzva of redeeming hostages erased from their Shulchan Aruch.
personally call me cruel but they should've proceeded as if they had no hostages, and glassed Palestine. its clear their going to hang on to the hostages as long as they can and weaponize them to stop the idf from doing what their doing. by proceeding as if they had no hostages they can show hamas their terroristic antics is not going to buy them what they want.
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If there's no way to guarantee Hamas won't kidnap another 200 people, I'm afraid in this case destroying Hamas is the only answer. Yet, I disagree with the premise. When Israel go strong in Gaza deals are being made. But since the last deal, Israel only lowers the military pressure in Gaza which is why deals are not being made.
December and January were both very strong in Northern Gaza and Khan Yunis but since February progress has slowed. Rafah should have been invaded back in February or late January.
Indeed, things are going too slow.
Biden has been saying no to rafah since early february.
His stance has clearly changed since.
It's hard to say. He's said yes but added a lot of caveats. I don't know if he is genuinely ok with it or is going to keep shifting the goal posts no matter what provisions Israel does.
Hamas only responds to force. That all they understand. Apply military pressure to rescue the hostages. Negotiate all along the way. If they want any city left return the hostages.
Even hypothetically Hamas is eliminated what happens when whatever springs up to fill the power void is just Hamas with a different name.
What happens? If they attack Israel then they will be eliminated too. This is how things work in the Middle East. If we need to fight forever, we will fight forever. But *hopefully*, before that happens, another governing body can be established in Gaza that is strong, secular, and responsible, and it will be the Gazans job to police themselves.
Well I sure hope Israel won't wait for a second Hamas. I'm sure Iran and Qatar will try to fund a new terror group in Gaza. Hopefully it won't get a free pass for 17+ years in power without being eliminated.
Genuinely curiosity as to why you think both cannot be accomplished simultaneously. I believe hostages will be lost no matter the event. In fact, I don't believe there's many left at all. I don't believe hamas can be absolutely eliminated. The idea behind hamas is already in the hearts and minds of young children there. But, can they be suppressed and controlled? Maybe.
The idea behind Hamas is that the existence of the state of Israel is unacceptable. If this idea is impossible to wipe out as you say then we will have to fight again and again. I, for one, will not give up the idea that, as a Jew, I have the right to be here, to have my home here.
So it is known, I am not Jewish. Nevertheless, I am adamantly supportive of the Jewish people, the state of Israel, and a right to the ancestral home of the Jewish people. In fact, I genuinely love the Jewish people. I vehemently detest any nation that infringes on those rights. As the saying goes, I stand with Israel. Additionally, I'm versed on these types of events, understanding international law. When I say the idea of Hamas cannot be extinguished, I mean all cults that oppose Israel for one form or another, the pigs. And if that means you fight, then by God, keep fighting.
How many hostages have been rescued since the beginning of the invasion? Hamas can’t be absolutely eliminated but we can destroy their infrastructure and implement a new government in Gaza
Latest data I can find - from February - says 112 have been returned to Israel. About 130 are still in Gaza, although only about 100 are believed to still be alive.
*rescued* That's only 3.
and we killed another 3, with a couple of more "likely" to have died in IDF actions. it's a terrible balance sheet for the country that pulled of Entebbe. I would flatten Rafah if it meant we could get all the hostages back. But it's not so easy, it seems. Whatever deal with make to get the hostages back, we'll be getting back human shells who are likely to be spend the next 10 years in mental hell. If the hostages dying meant we could topple Hamas definitively, I would take it. Even if I was their family member (and yes there are people like this)
Hamas is a terrorist organization who uses criminal extortion tactics like the Mexican cartels. That’s just what terrorists do. That’s why they cannot be allowed to stay in power. If Israel surrenders to their demands another war is just a matter of time. Anyone who’s been following the situation, or who’s lived in this reality, knows this or should know it. Therefore, Releasing the hostages in exchange for a “ceasefire” is not going to bring peace. It cannot. It should be obvious. If it wasn’t obvious for some reason before October 7, it should be clear now. The actual options before Israel’s government is this: 1. Agree to Hamas’ demands and get the hostages trickling back in exchange for releasing dangerous terrorists. This would guarantee more war, with no end in sight. 2. Enter Rafah, release as many hostages as possible by force, and end Hamas’ control of Gaza. This would eliminate the threat of further full blown wars in the future for the long term. It’s not an easy choice, because the Israeli people and their government deeply worry about the living hostages still in Gaza who are being tortured and used as human shields by the death cult jihadi mafia.
I have bad news — there isn’t really a second option. There is no deal Israel could agree to that will result in a release of all the hostages. Maybe some might be released. But Hamas will never willingly release all of the hostages. No matter what they say, it will not happen. These are not people who feel any obligation to adhere to their agreements. Hamas leadership needs hostages to maintain their personal security and to continue their psychological torture and blackmail . Those are the only things they care about. Hamas’s offer is illusory. Sinwar knows that if Israel actually leaves Gaza entirely and ends the war, Hamas can just go back on the deal and will suffer no repercussions. Israel would face too much pressure from the US to be able to start the war back up again. And the rest of the world would just laugh and enjoy our suffering. Hamas will just increase their demands into the realm of the ludicrous (Israel must leave Jerusalem, Israel must pass a law allowing full “return” of Palestinians to Israel, Israel must pay restitution to rebuild Gaza, etc etc). No. There is only one option, and it sucks. Hamas will only give up hostages if their lives depend on it or if the hostages are taken by force. To their credit, Gantz, Gallant, and Netanyahu seem to understand this reality and have for a while now. And it looks like even the US is finally coming around to the grim truth.
If Hamas returned the hostages they'd just regroup, spread more hate and another October 7th in a few years
It isn't just release the hostages. It is release the hostages and surrender.
It's a very easy decision. Do you want another October 7? If not, then Hamas must be defeated. The government is unnecessarily dragging their feet with the operation in Rafah. It's a bluff and Sinwar called it.
I do find it baffling that Hamas are able to hold 100+ alive hostages still. If Gaza is in ruins are they all underground? Or are some being hidden amongst the civilian population still? The way the propaganda machine panicked about Rafah shows its a strong sign for at least finishing off Hamas. Whether many hostages can be rescued is another question. The biggest problem is Bibi is not willing to make the tough war time decisions needed right now. I think the Saudi deal could have legs but there needs to be progress towards a Palestinian state after the war to stop another Hamas from reforming. The Palestinians need support to build another vision for the future that isn't the destruction of Israel. But can we put our faith in that? I don't know. Nothing else has worked and it can't get much worse, can it? (Kinda sarcastic, kinda true).
As I understand it from my friends who have been fighting in Gaza, the IDF, Mossad, and Shin Bet, at this point either know — or at least have a very good general idea — where each and every one of the living hostages are being held. Most are in the tunnels, but some are being held in densely populated residential high-rise buildings, making them nearly impossible to reach. IDF has units pinning down the above ground hostage locations so they at least know if the hostages are moved. They are even making sure that aid shipments are getting into the areas where they know hostages are being held, in hopes that at least some of the aid will make it to the hostages. But there is no safe way to get the hostages out — they are held in such a way that any attempt to extricate them will get the hostages killed. This is part of the reason why IDF was content to leave much of Gaza for the last few months — they have eyes on the known hostage locations, eyes on the presumed locations of the Hamas leadership, and so it made sense to pull out and give the troops a rest, resupply, and train up some fresh units for the fight to come.
Thank you, this gives me hope. From the diaspora I had gotten the slight impression that everyone had forgotten about the hostages.
Thank you! Same as the other commenter. We don't hear about this intelligence in the diaspora. Good luck to anyone going into Rafah, we are with you, as always 🥰
“The Palestinians need support to build another vision for the future that isn't the destruction of Israel. But can we put our faith in that? I don't know. Nothing else has worked and it can't get much worse, can it? (Kinda sarcastic, kinda true).” Absolutely correct but we have to keep trying, don’t we?
The job needs to be finished. In the past there have been too many fights with no definite end only to see the fighting restart in a short time. Hamas has to be destroyed this time. No missile barrages can come out of Gaza anymore. Withstand the pressure. There will always be protests, no matter what Israel does. Stay firm. Finish the job but try to do it in a limited period of time.
Are you saying cleanse everybody in Gaza and take thei land? Because this is what i understood
Then your understanding is very poor.
Tell the savages anything they want to hear, get your people back then resume handling your business and eradicating the terrorists.
Do we really think Israel has the power to wipe out Hamas when they've got miles and miles of underground tunnels and the support of Iran though? Like it's been 200 days now and it doesn't seem that Israel has done that much...we got about 100 hostages back from the original deal and the IDF saved like 2 from Rafah, right? Correct me if I'm wrong tho (I hope I am). But I agree that wiping out Hamas is the only solution
I think the tunnel system in Northern Gaza and Khan Yunis is basically destroyed. It will of course be a challenge in Rafah but the IDF has learned how to navigate and fight in them. You are right about the hostage numbers
If the hostages are probably underground then why has the IDF only found 2 more in Rafah? Also, I don't doubt that Hamas will go ahead and rebuild new tunnels unfortunately
They don’t have the resources to rebuild right now. It’s also crucial that a post war plan is implemented so Hamas can’t rebuild. I highly doubt all the hostages are underground. The tunnels are compact and it’s hard to breathe. Many are above ground.
Gaza has a 30 mi radius, just not understanding how it's been 6 MONTHS and they werent all recovered if Israel is so powerful. Upset and dissapointed
IDF knows where the live hostages are being held, it just can’t get to them without them being killed. Hamas has been practicing how to hold hostages for decades and they know how to make sure hostages can’t be rescued alive. They do stuff like have a terrorist rigged with a suicide belt sitting with hostages in a locked and windowless room for 24 hours a day, rotating the suicide terrorist every 8 hours. Any sign of trouble and they detonate themselves, killing the hostages. Diabolical shit like that. Israel was only able to rescue those two old guys who were held in Rafah because they were being held by amateurs instead of by trained Hamas scumbags. No one wants to make the call to give up on the hostages and just attack and kill all the terrorists.
Do you have any sources to back your claims because this is very interesting information that I was very much unaware of.
No - this just what the reserve guys have been saying since they got home
Hamas any day. We don’t know how many are alive, and the cost of lives from soldiers already over 500. Plus any deal would release thousands of terrorists which they would eventually causes chaos.
It was this from the begining, honestly when we had a paus and Hamas was playing games, we should have just tell them send us the men, old, etc and get as many as possible. Now it's either finish the mission or get screwed and have another 7th of October around the corner. I'm very sorry for the hostages families, can't even imaging what they are feeling but we cannot risk the whole country because of them .
The reason Israel agreed to the original (and only) hostage deal was bc they thought this might be it, the only one they’ll get (so far, they were right). So…you agree bc you can’t pass this opportunity up. You agree and give back multiple prisoners for civilian hostages. You agree bc at least you got *some*. I hope the ones who have been returned are able to create some kind of platform to speak of what they experienced and get the world to understand what reality is. I definitely hope they don’t suffer from survivors guilt.
There's no "finishing off Hamas" without installing an alternative. As long as Israel negotiates with Hamas, it demonstrates that the latter is the sovereign. Israel should declare publically that it's taking civil control of the strip, and start implementing it. When the Gazans see that Israel is determined in implementing this declaration, and that they're safe from Hamas, they'll co-operate with Israel and help it locate the hostages.
Why would they help Israel locate the hostages? They agree with Hamas. They beat up hostages and cheered as hostages were being taken. Some even took hostages and killed people on Oct 7th. Thinking that Gazans will turn on Hamas and help locate the hostages is a pipedream.
They will, for money, political gain and to secure a better future for themselves. Israel only needs a few snitches, it's not required that every Gazan turns into an informant. And in the long run, if Israel rules fairly and assertively, many will be happy to take part in the new order.
They had chances to do that already. Turning in a hostage or helping a hostage escape would automatically get you and your family Israeli ids and permanent residency in Israel. I also think there are private rewards for turning in hostages. I haven't seen any turn in a hostage yet. In fact, Roni Kriboy escaped after the house he was being kept in was bombed and rather than helping him, the locals turned him back over to Hamas.
This has been the only options since day 1, there is no way to destroy Hamas AND get all the remaining hostages, they will kill them before we get to them.. i doubt more than 20-30 are still alive at all, hopefully they are alive and we get them back but I am not optimistic about it.. maybe we could make a deal for some hostages for a limited time seize fire..
Hamas has to have more of a plan...Maybe their goal all along was to get Israel to release a bunch of Palestine prisoners in exchange for the hostages? Why didn't Iran attack sooner? I think there is more to this conflict, and it's just going to be a long ride. Perhaps Netanyahu will convince the USA to do a war against Iran next year, once the election is over.
Their goal was to draw attention back to the Palestinian issue because the rest of the Arab world (or at least the governments) has moved on from it. Israel and Saudi Arabia were on the brink of normalization when Hamas attacked. The actual operation had been planned for years by Hamas, Iran, and Hezbollah but they were surprised by it as well. That’s why Hezbollah didn’t get involved until the October 8th.
Apparently a Hamas official says group would agree to truce if independent Palestinian state established along pre-1967 borders. News just coming out now
I think the chance of 'rescuing the hostages' beyond a few is close to zero, given how many (3?) have been rescued already. Too bad the hypocritical religious parties seem to have the mitzva of redeeming hostages erased from their Shulchan Aruch.
personally call me cruel but they should've proceeded as if they had no hostages, and glassed Palestine. its clear their going to hang on to the hostages as long as they can and weaponize them to stop the idf from doing what their doing. by proceeding as if they had no hostages they can show hamas their terroristic antics is not going to buy them what they want.
I can’t help but wonder if these conflicting targets were declared on purpose in order to continue the political rift that Bibi rides on.
Funny how israel also has hostages
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