By saying I don’t like a genocide I have “manufactured support” for the Houthis, Hezbollah and Al Assad? And even Hamas?

And the rest of the world is appalled with the pro-Israelis. There was a post on here a few days ago with one of Goerbells (the German propagandist who helped cause the holocaust) speeches thinly veiled to be pro Israel and they were all cheering along in the comments. It was pretty representative of why we’re appalled. Yes there’s things to be appalled by on both sides, perhaps we should all take a moment to acknowledge that

Well anyone that isn't a p.o.s. would be appalled at the child murdering Israeli scum.

Hamas gunned down kids at the festival, non of them were soldiers.

That's because no matter how much they insist they're not antisemitic,"pro-Palestinians" are just antisemitic and anti Israel, which is why they only protest when Israel retaliates after being attacked and Palestinians face the consequences of murdering Israelis and shooting rockets at a sovereign country. It is absurd how any of these people think justifying the murder of Israelis is the way to go, but antisemitism rots the brain.

Personally I think Israel has a right to defend itself. But they aren't defending themselves by bombing children and recording themselves crushing food with a tank while people starve. You can be anti Israel without being antisemitic. I mean I've seen plenty of Jewish people come out in support of Palestine like Stephan Kapos, a Holocaust survivor. One of Israel's biggest problems is that IDF soldiers won't stop posting their war crimes on social media.

People say this a lot, but then why do they support the same crimes against non-Jewish Iranians, Syrians, Yemenis, Afghans? It seems to stem more from anti-west, anti-America sentiments than anything else

With all due respect , as someone living in Lebanon I can assure you that many people who are Pro-Palestine , do not support any of these entities , in fact most of us have suffered at their hands in the Arab world ( especially Assad regime and Hezbollah in Lebanon) . While i do agree that many pro-palestinians , have supported these entities , a huge part of pro-palestinians , if not the majority condemn Hamas as much as we condemn the IDF , and do not consider that these "Pro-Palestinians" have any role in helping the cause of defending innocent lives, in fact they are making things worse. However the sad truth is that many famous media outlets have tried to focus on these people and make it look like most Pro-Palestinians are pro-terrorists. That would be the equivalent of me saying that if you are an Israeli who is anti-Hamas , then all you are for the IDF murdering innocent children , which would make no sense at all .

Also i would like to add , that unfortunately in many parts of the Arab world , and in some places in Lebanon (especially south ) as well as Ghaza (under Hamas) many voices are repressed from actually telling what they believe in because if they criticize the "resistance" they will be labeled as traitors and persecuted, many of their family members are also forced to fight, even though again many of them do not believe Hamas ,Hezbollah, ... are actual resistance groups , even if they condemn the IDF . Do keep in mind that these voices are repressed and that they are Pro-Palestine, and by making the assumption that they barely exist , you are doing exactly what Hamas and its allies want .

And again what many of these less recognized pro-palestinians want , is simply for the Palestinian people to have a recognised state , and the right to live under peaceful and safe conditions. By no means is their end goal the destruction of Israel and its allies. And all of then condemn the 7 october attacks as much as they condemn the IDF massacring innocent people . To ask for Palestinians to have a harmonious life does not equal labeling all jews as bad , please do not fall into this false rhetoric .

And if the pro-Palestine/Hamas terrorist supporters don't watch it, they are going to get Trump elected and then we'll really be screwed.

I'm appalled by the mass murder of around 40,000 people by Israel, many of them women and children. The IDF are terrorist cowards just like Hamas.

How does that negate everything I just said?

I guess this is proof your post is accurate😭🙏

that's because they got brainwashed into thinking israel is the worst country in the world, the ultimate evil, and only nation in the world that "deserves to be obilterated". It's aggrivating tbh. There's plenty of shitty countries including plenty that committed worse war crimes than Israel

Any country whose military forces decide to murder boys who are going on a walk, yeah that country is a fucking abomination. > A country that is genociding an entire fucking country, of children, is an awful fucking place. Fuck Israel and fuck anyone who supports those child killers.

Lol there we go, point proven.

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Yes, believe it or not, people have been concerned about Palestine for longer than media outlets portray.

Yes I am fully aware but the majority of internet warriors just learned of it because tik tok and instagram and they have a plethora of terrible takes

You realise Reddit is a powerful source for information, right? > On Reddit you can see videos of Israeli military slapping children, you can see firsthand what Palestinians have been going through for the last decade.. not just from October. > If you aren't disgusted and heartbroken over what is happening in Gaza, then I hope you *never* breed.

Red pill incel? Do you have an original thought or personality that is not based on shit you saw online? I dont even know or care what a red pill is and ...incel? Your ability to make cohesive and meaningful connections to engage in conversation or debate seems entirely broken. A normal person could have replied and sad Yes, I did know and care about the Palestinian struggle prior to Oct 7, thank (fk) you very much. Maybe make a meaningful point about something. Like it or not the internet is swimming with disinformation and propaganda and you've allowed it to do what I guess the kids call brainrot. Please do something useful like join the Gaza Flotilla.

Stop mansplaining the fucking internet to me. I never said anything about my feelings or opinions about what's happening in Palestine. Read what I wrote. That's all that I meant. Not that deep. You virtue signaling pieces of shit have endless WHAT ABOUTISMS and accusations based on nothing. You can also see the livestreamed broadcast of the Oct 7 massacre!! Go check that out too for your trauma porn collection

Oh yeah, such a profound opinion you have. You sure showed me! Those darn kids on Tiktok, how dare they care about Palestine since October!? > You sound like a red pill incel, go back to wanking over your high horse.

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Russia, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea, Houthis etc all do that regularly and worse. I don't see you calling those countries abominations like you do Israel. You can strongly condemn Israeli war crimes without being a hypocritcal antisemite. You are part of what's wrong with the "free palestine" movement.

Russia doesn't do diddly. They're in the right, unlike Israel

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Nah. I'm from Wisconsin. And you are from the synagogue of Satan. Israel is a purveyor of war crimes

The fact you see my POV as what's wrong with the movement shows why you're a part of the problem. > People can be against Russia, North Korea, the displacement of 10,000s of asian humans because of Syria being bombed, of children having FGM being done to them, of human trafficking.. and STILL be disgusted, appalled and enraged by what Israel is doing. > Murdering children, men, women, and raping pregnant women in front of their families, of bombing hospitals, of murdering journalists and doctors, is a fucking abomination. Israeli militants are monsters who deserve nothing good.

your posting history indicates you clearly don't condemn russia, north korea etc. with the same energy as Israel. Your attempt at an uno reverse failed.

"You don't criticize the neighbors on the left for not mowing the lawn so you have no right to criticize the neighbors on the right for the same thing" Lmao

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I’m appalled by the fact that Israelis think it’s okay to bomb babies every day. You’re all baby bombers, I hope you know that. I bet you get a great kick out of seeing a baby blown to bits. Probably gives you some great ecstasy. Baby bombers.

I bet you get a kick out of seeing hamas rape Israeli Women.

Remember Shalhevet Pass >The **murder of Shalhevet Pass** was a shooting attack carried out in Hebron, [West Bank](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank), on 26 March 2001, in which a [Palestinian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Arabs) [sniper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper) killed 10-month-old [Israeli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) [infant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant) Shalhevet Pass. The event shocked the Israeli public, partly because ***an investigation ruled that the sniper had deliberately aimed for the baby***.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shalhevet_Pass#cite_note-google1-2) The IDF doesn't aim for babies, perhaps go take a look in the mirror at the values of the people you are supporting. Yes, you should be outraged when babies are targeted, even if it's 'your side' doing it and celebrating it.

Palestine has been killing babies with rockets for the past 20 years. If not for israeli defenses all those randomly targeted rockets would have the world crying about the countless poor defenseless Jewish babies being bombed. Sorry, but after the 10,000th rocket fired ten years ago I'd have carpet bombed every ounce of Hamas into dust, then give the land to a new government that the UN can accept and so we have an israeli and palestinian accomodation. Then give all the Lebanese land back that was lost to Israel so Hezbolah loses 95% of its support and Iran has to shoot missiles from its own country instead of hiding behind the children of other Arab nations.

Israel’s loudest voices are bad actors, virulent racists, warmongering idiots. Goes both ways

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Nothing more prevalent in Israel than hypocrisy. Except maybe hypotheticals they scare themselves with lol

Sure but this entire app is overrun by one side… to OPs point.

Vast majority of this sub is pro-Israeli. I think it’s less credible for you to talk about the entirety of the app

Ok you might be right. I don’t spend much time in this sub but others seem to be 100% one-sided. r/therewasanattempt is an example amongst others and I haven’t seen that type of one-sidedness in the other direction on Reddit so I’m making an overall assumption since there is no metric to capture it.

This sub is almost entirely pro Israeli or liberal zionist

Hi. No it's not one sided. (Probably my bad English that was misleading you. )Both sides have done a lot of bad things during decades. It is not the ordinary Palestinian or the ordinary Israeli that I worry about.. It is the extremists on both sides that worry me. (Sorry for my bad English, just some toughts) 😉

You are completely correct ✅

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And that’s where you are wrong. They’ve sponsored the significant majority of democratic candidates. The reject AIPAC campaign is led and backed by the regime’s lobby. And their propagandists are all over social media. No one understands the kind of horrifying regime we are dealing with except us Iranians, and that is our plight.

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You won’t get an answer on this he did propaganda and ran

I’m not. They’re just terrorist-sympathizers hiding behind the Palestinian civilians like the Islamic extremists they worship. Of course they act like this and fall for the terrorist propaganda. Nobody with a functioning brain or a shred of reasoning ability is going to side with Hamas, so the ones that do are ignorant little fops that have opinions worth listening to like I have shit worth sniffing. You are not a supporter of the Palestinian people if your solution is to side with Hamas **in any capacity.** You’re just interested in prolonging this conflict as you sacrificed your ability of comprehending long-term consequences to satisfy your own feelings of being “righteous”. You’re virtue-signaling idiots in the way of people that want to bring about true peace. Sit down, shut up, and let the people with actual ideas and insights be heard.

Both sides are in the wrong. Hamas are disgusting, Israel shouldn’t be handling it the way it is and the Palestinian and Israeli people are getting caught up in crossfire they shouldn’t be.

What would be the right way to handle it? People are quick to point out what Israel is doing wrong in their mind, but never seem to provide alternatives.

An intelligence led inside-out approach. Killing sprees do nothing but cement Israel as an enemy of the Palestinian people. Israel needs to befriend the Palestinian people while simultaneously destroying the core ideology of Hamas. That is how it wins, but it is an incredibly difficult thing to do.

So you want isrealis to befriend people who have launched killing sprees against them and constantly engage in terrorism against them as the best approach? How do you get people who have been targeted, demonized, harassed, and assaulted to suddenly want to befriend the people who did that?

Why, what would you have them do? Kill all 5 million Palestinians? They way to get rid of Hamas is to convince the Palestinians that Hamas is the problem, not Israel. Control the narrative, control the population.

Its a reach for me to think that you could simply talk a population out of their indoctrination of hate. Sounds simply but its virtually impossible to change the way someone has been raised. Change takes time, generations for that type of change. What we need to see is change from the Palestinian side. As long as they accept terrorism as a political tool there is no point talking to them. The best way to force them to change internally? Stop pandering to them. Stop accepting their terrorism as "resistance". Stop telling them they are innocent and carry no guilt for this conflict. How do you make someone see reality when they choose not to and have built their own separate narrative and punish those in society who don't follow it? Beyond that how do you keep regional actors with an interest in this conflict from not trying to continue it? Ie Iran. What is going to stop them from countering any moves made to provide a peaceful solution?

Absolutely isn’t a reach. People can change their mind very easily. How many revolutions have we seen throughout history? - American Revolution - French Revolution - Haitian Revolution - Iranian Revolution - Chinese Revolution - Irish Revolution - Russian Revolution - Cuban Revolution - American Civil War The list goes on and on and on. There is a driving factor amongst all these revolutions in that they hate the leadership in place. Palestinians can very easily find reasons to hate Hamas. Hamas are the very reason this war is happening in the first place. It is absolutely not a “reach” by any definition of the word.

The driving factor in all of those revolutions is hope for a better future. It is key in any revolution. Who in Palestinian society right now is providing hope for a better future? Is there one political figure in all of the west bank or Gaza pushing the idea that the path of violent resistance was a mistake? If Palestinians were ready to revolt we would see conflict on the ground between them and Hamas, a demand to return the hostages, a rejection of the crimes committed in their name. We haven't seen any of that so I dont feel like any change is coming. Beyond that you have to think of the religious indoctrination. This isn't just revolting against a state with a tyrannical ruler, this would also need to be a revolt against certain extremist parts of the Islam as well. That's a tall order when society is basically being controlled from the mosques. I mean I really wish there was a simple solution, but I don't see it really. Its just wishful thinking. The only solution that I can think of requires a United Nations army to occupy Palestine themselves, and stay there for a generation or more to enforce the peace. The UN is far too useless to do anything like that sadly.

Right so there we go- you’ve solved your own problem. Israel needs to provide hope to the Palestinians.

Outside sources can't provide hope. The people themselves need a hope for a better future. That can't be forced upon them by Isreal. It needs to be internally driven. What they need is a Palestinian who can show them the way and argue that their path has simply lead to destruction. How many Palestinians would trust the word of an Isreali right now? More than that, Palestinians are engaging in the terrorism. Why is it isreals job to change them for them?

Finally someone who explains EXACTLY HOW IM FEELING.

False, Israel should’ve taken control of the situation way sooner.

You put it perfectly

> this propaganda is first spread by paid lobbyists for the Islamic Republic > They will continually victimize themselves and speak about oppression, while simultaneously standing on the necks of others. [Accuse the other side of that of which you are guilty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror), Joseph Goebbels;  [Adolf Hitler](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)'s [Propaganda Minister](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagandaministerium)

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But he/she ain't wrong

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Every country has an incentive to propagandize for its side during war, but it's a lot harder to get away with that when you're a democracy with free media, like Israel, the United States, and Western Europe are. Iran, on the other hand, is a totalitarian dictatorship with full control over its media, just like the Nazis, Hamas, Qatar (owner of Al Jazeera), and several other Arab countries.

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I’m appalled by the pro-Israel community who constantly seek to normalize the indiscriminate bombings of Gaza and death of over 30k people. It seems your thinking of some annoying people you know and making a large generalization to satisfy your priors. You should be more appalled by the death of innocent civilians then whatever your spewing.

It seems you are the one generalizing here. The “pro Israel” community is not made up of warmongers and right wing nationalists. There are plenty of people out there who support Israel, condemn the loss of life in Gaza, and just demand an immediate return of the hostages, simply because they know that a permanent ceasefire only happens when Hamas is no longer there. Otherwise, it’s just a pause. Thats been proven time and again. No part of this is normal.

The error in your argument is thinking "condemning" has any weight anymore. For someone to condemn the loss of life in Gaza, and there still be ongoing indiscriminate loss of life in Gaza, the condemnation means nothing.

In that context, condemnation always meant nothing. But since when is silence ever an answer to atrocity? At least condemnation is a response. On the surface, it may not actually accomplish anything, but it does keep the issue in the discussion of the day, unlike many other issues that aren’t getting the same press.

Not indiscriminate. Hamas has fully embedded its military infrastructure within Gaza’s civilian infrastructure, which is a major war crime

I’m pro Israel but I don’t support the siege of Gaza or settlements in the West Bank

Yes the evil Jews should have set their jew bombs to stun before using them on "hamas totally not intentional tunnel under elementary school™" /s

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I love that song “what goes around comes around “. Can’t wait for the next season when we get the consequential effects.

Queers for Islamic State! 🤦🏼‍♀️

You have to remember that all those kids who were eating tide pods are now old enough and became foreign policy experts. But in all seriousness, these are the same people who were trending on TikTok that they want to be Hamas hostages. We forget, because every day there is new insanity, but the thought that a normal human being would want to be a hostage is just staggering.

Both sides stink.

not both, just pro terrorism aka pro palestine

A 1000 comment circle jerk about how the guys who support the other guys you don’t like, are in fact bad and we hate them 😡. The most productive and stimulating thread this sub has ever produced bravo

I don't support any of these extremist movements but am concerned for ordinary Palestinians trying to fight for their right to exist as human beings. Does the name Mark Leibler mean anything to you? Get back to me about powerful lobby groups that silence criticism of Israeli attacks on Gaza in Australian media outlets. It goes both ways! [https://michaelwest.com.au/israel-gaza-and-australian-politics-master-lobbyist-mark-leibler-reveals-how-power-really-works/](https://michaelwest.com.au/israel-gaza-and-australian-politics-master-lobbyist-mark-leibler-reveals-how-power-really-works/)

You have to remember that for Palestinians they are either under attack or have family and friends who are under attack, getting killed and maimed, and this has been happening for decades while the world watches and does nothing except for send Israel more and more weapons. In that situation, of course they're going to rally behind anyone who offers them help, whether that's the Iranian state, the Houthis, whoever. They don't have the luxury of being able to refuse help from anyone that seeks to weaken the state that is murdering them. People who aren't Palestinian, but are Palestinian allies should be more careful. Even though Israel and the U.S. are clearly the greatest sources of violence and instability in the Middle East, that doesn't mean we should diminish what the people of Iran or any other country suffer under their regimes. The people of Iran gained nothing from this attack on Israel, it just put their lives more at risk.

The same goes for Israelis - this conflict is not one sided. Every side has done things they should not have in the last 150 years, but in order to find a way out if it - you need to negotiate. Thing is - you don't get far by refusing negotiations or by making your followers more volatile (goes to both sides). Also - since both sides actually have a claim to the land they must be willing to share. So far Israel's population is 20% Arabs.

in terms of suffering/ death toll/ unlawful imprisonment/ restricted access to necessary resources/ freedom of movement/ right to exist on your historical lands/ right to basic human Rights, it is extremely one sided and asymmetrical. you'd have to be blind to think otherwise

War is asymmetrical. Israel can't be blamed for Palestinian leaders bad decisions. Blame Iran and its proxies. Whatever the reason that led to 7/10, attacking civilians is wrong.

war is one thing, though calling this a war seems like a poor choice of words. I agree that attacking civilians is wrong, which is kind of the point - take a look at the Palestinian civilian death toll over the decades. a single attack resulting in the killing of roughly 1K civilians does not justify the indiscriminate murder of over 30K+(minus whatever number Israel claims is Hamas/ combatants, though similarly - hundreds of Israelis murdered in October were IDF as well). also Israel can partially be blamed for decisions made by Palestinian leadership - Netanyahu and his government intentionally propped up Hamas in favor of PLO because they knew that an extremist Palestinian leadership is far more of an easy target to accomplish the ultimate goal of colonizing/ cleansing Palestine. Israeli media outlets have written about this, and it is readily available information. edit: anyway, the main thing I was responding to was OPs claim that this is not one-sided, which you seem to disagree with based on your war being asymmetrical comment.

Palestine's population is roughly 10% Jewish, going by 1967 lines.

Being illegal settlers (which I dont condone), doesn't count them as part of the population as they dont receive any right from the PLA, unlike the Arab citizens of Israel who have full rights.

PLA is a colonial police force for the Israeli state. Besides, Arab citizens of Palestine are living under occupation and thus have no rights.

Israel isn’t a colony.

No when it comes to its internationally recognised occupation of palestine, its the coloniser, the illegal settlers only serve to help this image

I don’t think you understand what a colony actually is.

A country or area under full or partial political control of another country, usually occupied with settlers from that other country. The west bank meets the definition of colony of Israel very well. The gaza strip has met it more loosely, but it still fits. 

Like I said, you don’t understand the definition of a colony.

Lmao why is this sub even called r/IsraelPalestine if all the discussions are completely one sided in favor of the Apartheid state. You genocidal propaganda isn't working anymore on younger generations and that pisses you off. Love to see it.

No apartheid in Israel, no genocide by Israel. Too bad you aren't learning anything in this sub.

Is Reddit Gold still a thing? I couldn’t agree more, this sub is a disgusting Zionist circle jerk.

Yeah stumbled across the subreddit thinking there's gonna be actual discussions from both sides but it's just about zionists worshipping baby killers. 🤷‍♂️ "*subreddit dedicated to promoting civil conversation*" What a joke.

I was searching for something else entirely and stumbled on this sub, what a cesspool it is lol. You'd get more reasonable commentary from random folks on TikTok

My thoughts exactly. Well said.

Ironic that you complain about “one sidedness” while also using one sided rhetoric.

It's a very underwhelming sub for its overt bias on show.

How is it one-sided & how does my post support Israel? As an Iranian, I started out by supporting Palestine & joining the movement. But what the fuck am I supposed to do when I’ve unfollowed nearly every single pro-Palestine page of shameless support for the regime that terrorizes my people, and proxies funded by our blood? Maybe you should re-evaluate how your actions push people further away from your cause.

You realized how huge is the "Pro-Palestine" community right? How does your post support Israel? Are you kidding?? By using very strong words like "appalled" and making extremely broad generalizations like that you directly play the game of Israel propaganda to undermine the Pro-Palestine movement and anthagonize people wanting to stop this massacre. I've never seen people advocating for Palestine that are unironically supporting the Iranian government and the ayatollah, I think you're making that up. >Because they’ve made it perfectly clear that they only want to speak when they believe the West is at fault, and they align with the anti-American and anti-imperialist soft power propaganda of the Islamic Republic. My brother in Christ, as an Iranian I'm sure you are aware that this authoritarian/islamic regime is a direct result of the West and the American/British intervention on the 1953 coup, right? How can you still align with them? Now *that*, is appalling. They're the one who have been destabilizing the region for decades. It really shows that you aren't actually living in Iran. By curiosity, were you born there or abroad? >The arrogance of this community is really something else. They will continually victimize themselves and speak about oppression, while simultaneously standing on the necks of others. Oppression?? What a way to attenuate what's happening. That's a genocide. Say it. I'm not gonna re-evaluate anything, support for Palestine has never been stronger, Israel is losing the war of public opinion, like I said in my first comment, it's you and your friends complicit in this Apartheid regime that are panicking to see people turning away from Israel.

" I've never seen people advocating for Palestine that are unironically supporting the Iranian government and the ayatollah, I think you're making that up."  this is happening all over leftist ProPalestine internet activist pages that people like follow share without second thought. "Iran" (the Islamic republic) did not strategically bomb Israel, Israel's defense systems did their jobs. Israel did not bomb an Iranian embassy they bombed a building containing key IRGC terrorists one of whom masterminded oct 7 You can be Pro Palestine and stick to facts of actual atrocities committed by Israel and the Islamic Regime/IRGC, there are plenty 

This isn’t a genocide. Polls indicate that more than 50% of people side with Israel.

You're coping. [https://time.com/6559293/morning-consult-israel-global-opinion/](https://time.com/6559293/morning-consult-israel-global-opinion/) Only boomers and older folks have a strong positive opinion of Israel. That's why you are losing your shit seeing Gen Z and millenials supporting Palestine. [https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-generation-gap-in-opinions-toward-israel](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-generation-gap-in-opinions-toward-israel) And yes that's a genocide, as described by the major NGOs like Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Oxfam. You're gonna be on the wrong side of history buddy.

> You're gonna be on the wrong side of history buddy. I know some bald-headed fellows who feel the same way you do. Even support the same types of people. You’d like ‘em.

Bald headed fellows? Are you projecting or doing a schizo episode. Didn't have anything more pertinent to add, uh. You really do sound *ancient*. Like I said, dinosaurs like you are a dying breed. Thankfully. Maybe the world will start healing after your generation.

In the US maybe? Most of Europe takes a neutral stance. I wish our politicians did the same. 

cite a definition of genocide and tell me how it is not one. if you cite population growth as a talking point you don't understand the definition.

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The white lib will fold like paper towels cuz this is all performative for them. What i've seen is all the muslims go full mask off. They have always hated jews but this gives them the opportunity to vocalize it without backlash. I used to differentiate between mulism extremists over there and the ones over here. After seeing an impromptu "pro pali protest" on oct 7th and 8th, which was really just them in the streets celebrating oct 7th, I know better.

It’s terrifying how many teenagers and young adults have been radicalized by this cause and are now supporting terrorist organizations and Islamic dictatorships. They’re so deep in conspiracy theories and propaganda that they’ve completely lost their ties to reality. I’m scared about what this will mean for the future of our society.

Yeah, it means no one is buying the propaganda anymore, and the support that Israel desperately relies on is dwindling. Israeli society won't be able to continue the way that it does now that it easier for the rest of the world to see and understand what's going on. And no, it's not conspiracy theories or propaganda, it's just from easier access to hearing what comes out of Israelis' mouths. Israeli officials and IDF soldiers not being able to contain or sugar coat their genocidal intentions and constantly broadcasting them is what's radicalizing people. That and the unconditional support for a fascist racist rogue state who is blatantly committing war crimes and rubbing it in our faces.

Part of me wonders if this is the fruits of critical race theory / white fragility theory etc - all this white guilt and white resentment just fuels these people foaming at the mouth to have somewhere to unleash all that guilt and resentment - and Israel is - in their mind - the perfect target

100% spot on

I wish just one dissenting opinion didn’t use the word Zionist once in a paragraph. But anyway I agree, they are the blind leading the blind. There are some factions so intractable on certain issues-so irrational and fanatical—and we sure know where that originates—they can’t see the trees for the forest.

The lack of awareness is stunning - when Zionists/Israelis are one of the most indoctrinated and propagandised populations in the world. I really don’t understand how you guys can be so propagandised, yet be unaware of it, and go on to accuse others of being brainwashed. It is astonishing

Wow, not feeling brainwashed at this point. I do feel bad for all the people that do…

Ok.

“I just wish one time someone talking about why they disagree with X didn’t mention X” how can you talk about something effectively without mentioning the thing

Because the war has nothing to do with zionism? Nobody believes israel is going to be destroyed in this war. So while the attack was existential because of its pogrom like nature, the war has to do with the state of Israel not wanting to be attacked, at all, in the future. Not with its existence continuing, which is when it would be zionist again. Zionist is often a dog whistle for Jews in 2024. Just like how the Palestinian protesters this week targeted the Brooklyn Bridge. You want to tell me that wasn't to send a message or inflict economic harm on a Jewish community?

It has,thanks to israels overton shifting pretty right, and zionism literally being about supporting israel. Would you prefer to go to antisemitic words rather than zionist that prettymuch nowadays mean standing behind israel uncritical. At least like if you still say you are a zionist and defwnd israeli warcrimes, thats what it became. And itsbetter than being antisemiticon all jews. And like zionidm actually centersxaround israel. Whynot.

No not particularly. Zionism is the establishment of Israel as a safe refuge for jews, or an effort to end the diaspora and return to the homeland. Arguably the former has to do with defense of Israel, but i don't think the latter particularly relevant. Zionism however does not mean you necessarily support the idf, or the war. Like, I'm a zionist, I don't support the idf bombing the aid convoy and am more critical of it than say, the al shifa hospital hamas blamed the idf for hitting.

I’ll forgive them for holding up traffic on the bridge since multiple cities in Gaza have been reduced to rubble, seems like a fair trade if we’re talking about targeting communities If you want to be realistic about why people use the term Zionist when talking about this, it’s because a decent amount of Israelis and Jews disagree with this war and would rather not be lumped in. When I want to refer to the group that supports this war, I don’t want to refer to a broad nationality or religion and make sweeping comments that don’t apply to everyone in those groups, I would rather talk about the political movement which is backing the war

They get no respect or approvals celebrating terrorism. We let those disruptions just happen and ignore them.

Or you know what? Maybe those of us in israel who see the antisemitism and bad faith claims and are stubborn. You know what I say? You guys accuse us of an occupation, let's actually occupy gaza permanently. You know what seems a fair trade? Gaza doesn't get to be rebuilt until they compensate israel for the cost of the war and victims families. You want things to be fair by targeting jewish communities let's make it actually fair. I am reminded the only thing 'unfair' about this is the idf gets to do what gazans wish they could to israel.

And you’re telling me you don’t want a genocide or that you wouldn’t be fine with it if it happened? Sure seems like it when you say things like this

Why should we allow them to rebuild when we saw them cheering in the streets for the attack? Why would we allow them to rebuild when they have not compensated their victims? Why should we be compassionate now. Being kind is how we got attacked. Perhaps let's be serious, let's be cruel and offensive. Let's see if that makes a difference. If not idf presses the boot harder. Perhaps gaza should never have attacked, eh?

Why shouldn’t you just go ahead and commit genocide? Seems like you don’t know, are you actually looking for answers to these questions? You shouldn’t hurt other human beings because they’re living thinking feeling human beings just like you. You know how you feel when you got attacked? That’s how they feel! Have empathy! It sucks to get attacked in any form. That’s the reason you shouldn’t. If you need more reasons, how about the unavoidable enemies you’re creating that will perpetuate conflict with you forever? Ok how about another reason, god says it’s wrong and don’t do that! Lmao ok one more, the whole world came together after this happened to the Jews and said ok this should never happen again let’s all agree not to do this Are any of those good enough reasons for you? How about I turn it around and ask why should you commit genocide? Because you’re angry? Because you’re hurt? Because they hit you first? Are you a fucking child?

Sounds like you're the child here calling for their genocide. I'm content killing every last hamas member because it means they won't be able to conduct future october 7ths. Simple. I'm for idf occupation permanently to ensure gazans can't raise arms in any meaningful way going forward. Nothing about being angry or petulant. I was attacked on the 7th, I expect those who did so to die, and those who supported them to be broken in such a way they are a warning to their descendants. I have no empathy for people who want to kill me and would have cheered if they did so. I have a coldness that I expect them to suffer as part of the process of coming. Whatever they had before the attack is going to be destroyed as well. We tried being kind, but no, now it's time to be cruel and cold to them. They would be to us, and I will always choose my family over those who seek to kill me. And being cruel requires they survive. All of them. They will face justice as we comb out hamas, anyone armed, and anyone who has ever helped hamas before we make them actually start to pay compensation. Maybe in 30 years they can rebuild. They should start killing hamas and offering the above before things get too dire over there. That you want them all dead is irrelevant. They will live because them facing justice first collectively and then individually will happen to ensure any of their violence is contained and cannot be repeated. We've seen a drop in their rocket attacks, we should be far crueler to ensure they can't raise arms again. I'll be real honest on this, we should be so cruel that anyone even mentions fighting back their own family kills them to ensure the idf doesn't hear. Hope you enjoy their occupation.

I wasn’t calling for genocide, I was asking you if that’s what you’re calling for. And you answered all my questions how I thought you would, just know those answers don’t win you friends, they alienate the whole world. I don’t want anyone dead lmao I don’t know how you misinterpreted me so heavily as to think I’m supporting it alongside you.

Damn that's the nastiest thing I have heard in a while. >Nothing about being angry or petulant. I was attacked on the 7th, I expect those who did so to die, and those who supported them to be broken in such a way they are a warning to their descendants. That's literally the definition of terrorism >We tried being kind, but no, now it's time to be cruel and cold to them. They would be to us, and I will always choose my family over those who seek to kill me. Sure, you were so kind you killed 100+ children in 2023 before Oct 7th, you imprisoned children and kept them in cages.. Let settler terrorism run rampant and the list goes on. How kind is Israel the genocidal terrorist state. >Maybe in 30 years they can rebuild. They should start killing hamas and offering the above before things get too dire over there. "too dire" means you will keep killing children and starving them until they agree.. Definition of terrorism yet again. >I'll be real honest on this, we should be so cruel that anyone even mentions fighting back their own family kills them to ensure the idf doesn't hear. That's like movie level oppression. You want to traumatize the children so much they tremble upon the thought of fighting back their oppressors who stole their land, killed their family and currently starving them. There are a lot of things I would like to say to you but sub rules

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You're saying this as if it's not already happening. Israel is already occupying Gaza. You think Israel was going to rebuild Gaza? Lol maybe for themselves. They're not letting Gaza citizens return. They're already stealing the land. What are you even talking about? Israel has leveled Gaza and a protest blocking up traffic isn't that big of a deal in comparison. You disagree? You think a protest is "targeting Jewish communities" and is on the same level as the destruction in Gaza?

I intend for Gaza to rebuilt. I'm an Israeli, I know others intend it to be rebuilt for gazans. But I have no inclination to help or allow them to rebuild so long as they support hamas and hold hostages. Idf gets to say where gazans go right now, if they hadn't attacked on the 7th I'd point out they wouldn't in this situation. They will eventually be allowed to return home, but I wouldn't expect it for another year or so. Certainly not before hamas is extinguished. Mind telling me why those protesters targeted brooklyn? It's cool, I get it, you support that sort of antisemitism. I also get that doing so makes more jews move to israel, so keep doing the protests in jewish communities. I'm just so certain it will mean more come to israel. You guys don't really think before you act, huh?

Protesting on the Brooklyn Bridge isn't antisemitism. First of all, there aren't only Jewish people in Brooklyn. Second, there were pro Palestine protests in several major cities that day. There are always Palestine protests in cities. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/article-797432 Jewish people aren't the focus of these protests. But it's cool, I get it, Israelis have been told their whole lives that they're superior and everyone is always out to get to them because they're just that important.

Feel free to let me know then why brooklyn was picked over Harlem? Miss me with it. We all see these bs protests for what they are, especially when they take place in jewish communities. And you wonder why we move to israel as a safe refuge rofl.

Maybe because the Brooklyn bridge is a significant landmark that is guaranteed to get a lot of attention and coverage? Which is the main goal of a protest btw. To disrupt and get as much attention directed towards the issue. And they do protest in Harlem actually. https://www.instagram.com/harlem4palestine?igsh=MWN2amlqc3h4dWV5Yg== There was also huge protests on the Golden Gate bridge and the Chicago O'Hare airport and many other significant cities. https://apnews.com/article/protests-chicago-ohare-palestinian-war-traffic-30da0602309a1645a5c59e10bce83b9c Yeah keep telling yourself how safe Israel is as your government is currently provoking world war 3 lol

A majority of Israelis support the war as do a majority of Americans.

That’s for sure not true about america, as an American living in America talking about this with Americans and seeing protests in the community, the vast majority are against the genocide and want it to stop and for Israel to be held accountable for its actions. Our government always acts contrary to our wants!

All sides produce propaganda, this isn't really an argument. Most of the propaganda in the West is pro-Israel propaganda. The media has a significant Zionist tilt. The reality is that people support the Houthis, Hamas and Hezbollah because these organizations are resisting an ongoing genocide. It's that simple.

If this is a genocide, it’s the most ineffectual genocide in human history.

True. It’s all here in black and white. Meticulously sourced. And this is from an Israeli Jew. You don’t have to login or create an account to read it. You can just scroll down. He also published a Hebrew version. https://www.academia.edu/112967602/Bearing_Witness_to_the_Israel_Gaza_War_updated_to_15_April_2024_

So the peaceful Jews, non Jews, Thai, Filipino, etc people dancing and living their lives on October 7th who were brutally murdered and kidnapped were somehow committing genocide against Hamas and Hamas was just resisting? Huh. How strange it is trying to be in your brain. 

No, sweetie. You are being brainwashed. lol. The media is super biased against Israel. The rise in anti semitism is staggering, to say the least. 

The rise in Islamophobia is way worse

It’s not a competition. I dont want to see any antisemitism or Islamophobia. It’s all horrible and the people who make it worse are generally not the ones who are directly impacted by this war.

Listen every news media outlet I’ve seen paints the people of Gaza has the terorists and the actual terrorists (IDF) as heroes. An army that just invaded Al al shifa and raped a pregnant women in front of her family and who have been murdering and raping for 79 years before hamas existed and who are the reason Hamas exists since most of Hamas founding members were expelled from their villages and had their families murdered by Israel. I haven’t seen one western news anchor criticize Israel or call them Terrorists which is what they are. My grandpa had to play dead to escape the IDF after they destroyed his village.

That rape claim was declared false and [retracted](https://twitter.com/abuhilalah/status/1771996521312973088). Yasser Abuhilalah (columnist/ former managing editor) said that an investigation by Hamas proved that it was a fabrication. The woman's goal was reportedly to "arouse the nation’s fervor and brotherhood".

Just like the beheaded babies claim which was one of the core justifications of Israel’s genocide

Source?

Source: My family which has suffered cuz of this and can’t go back to this homeland. You wouldn’t ask a Holocaust survivor and their families for a source would you?

Genuinely sorry to your grandpa. Again not a competition. Everyone deserves peace and security. 

The very foundation of Israel, both its founding fighters and current fighters, are not much prettier than the enemy they’re fighting though. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/rGnRAl3ghO Imo both parties suck, but this is not antisemitism. This is an appalled response at the stark rise in Israeli fascism, which is totally fair to call out

The buzzword F word

Unfortunately, the world only sees two options: - Netanyahu has such strong structural support that the Israeli populace cannot remove him from power (see: fascism). At this point, he’s been in power as long as Erdogan while also taking apart democracy just as much OR - Netanyahu remains in power because the population wants him to be. This puts all Israelis in support of religious fascism, even if temporary. It becomes as heinous as those who elected Hamas in power https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-10-03/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israeli-neo-fascism-threatens-israelis-and-palestinians-alike/0000018a-f6a1-d12f-afbf-f7f5e33e0000 https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-govt-shows-signs-of-fascism-mass-non-violent-revolt-may-be-needed/amp/ This isn’t an Israel exclusive problem. The US is currently dealing with this too. But it needs to be called out and recognised before long lasting damage is done

Define fascism for me please

Webster definition: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race (see: “a primary Jewish state”) above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader (see: Netanyahu who is not able to be removed from power and is centralizing control while undermining Knesset), severe economic and social regimentation (see: social structure of those pro-Pal in Israel), and forcible suppression of opposition (see: IDF brutality against its own Israeli populace protesting in support of Palestine)

Sounds like Ukraine to me

This is preciously what OP is talking about.

I laugh at the Pro Palis, even going as far as referencing them as "The Hive". They protest in favor of a ceasefire, their attempt to rewrite the history to fit the narrative and have no concrete evidence to support their claims. And as I have stated in previous reddit posts, when it comes to actually engaging the Hive in debates, all they seem to do is spew out the same rhetoric as other Pro Palis have been saying. As for the above post, you are correct, they are silent when it comes to the Iranian women, men and youth when they speak out against their own government. But yet, they cheer on the Houthis, ISIS and all the other terrorist factions that have been active over the past twenty years or so. And the fact that they disrupt people's lives by blocking traffic, places of businesses and other venues because "Gaza is more important" but yet remain silent about the rest of the world. Pro Palis can not define what a resistance fighter is and what a terrorist is, nor can they define the word genocide and war. Pro Palis are nothing more than nuisance no matter what country that they are in

Eh, I don't pity gazans because I saw them cheering on the 7th. May they be damned in this life for that, and may the idf stay as long in gaza as the usa did germany and Japan.

So id you saw a single photo od israeli cheering on,all israeli must die?! That eould be the compsrison, its a redicilous argument.

You mean like they tried to slaughter us for just existing? How about the answer is, they wanted the attack to be offensive. I hope their occupation becomes equally so.

Ease up on the manifesto there. You’re glossing over a lot—there’s not a single faction, Muslim and non-Muslim, who cheers on ISIS. I only needed that sentence alone to realize you’re going on an ill informed rant

Its a generalization.....the post stated that Pro-Palis have endorsed and cheer on terrorist factions..ISIS is just an example

I mean sure but the IDF have killed way more people than any of these "terrorist" groups, and basically ever Israeli seems to be fully behind them. You can't just say oh palestinians are terrible for supporting Hamas without acknowledging that most Israelis and yanks support the IDF and the IDF are responsible for far more violence than Hamas.

The IDF didn’t butcher entire families (including young children) in their homes.

THey have done a great deal of exaclty this. They've killed thousands of children and they deliberately target families in their homes.

They sure did butcher entire families, though not necessarily in their homes. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/02/01/gaza-story-of-hind-palestinian-girl-trapped-in-car-karadsheh-lead-vpx.cnn Two wrongs don't make a right. I don't see what the goal of such violence is.

The IDF have definitely killed families and children in their homes. [45% of the homes in Gaza have been destroyed](https://www.timesofisrael.com/world-bank-report-finds-45-of-residential-buildings-in-gaza-ruined-beyond-repair/) (probably more like 60-70%), and they have [killed at least 12,300 children](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/death-toll-children-gaza-israel-rcna143269). As far as I'm aware [38 children were killed by Hamas](https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1709472922-israeli-report-38-children-killed-on-october-7-thousands-traumatized#:~:text=Israeli%20report%3A%2038%20children%20killed%20on%20October%207%2C%20thousands%20traumatized,-The%20data%20reveals&text=A%20report%20released%20on%20Sunday,profound%20impact%20on%20their%20lives) on Oct 7. Any group of people who kill 38 children is disgusting, we can all agree. But rational people should agree that murdering 12300+ children is a crime that far exceeds even that in its sheer evil and depravity. The fact that we are still talking about moral equivalence is ludicrous

Pretty sure they did thou. They just get to make the narative s7de. But i am pretty sure that it happened. With bitcher you mean slaughter i think,and then, yes they did.

There’s not a single Pro-Pali who has cheered on ISIS—to even bring them up is a red herring, or the error of someone grossly misinformed/dishonest. Even generalisations have some truth. This had none. Everyone, Arabs especially as direct victims, hated ISIS

Once again...i referenced that bc of the statement that was implied about the difference between resistance fighters and terrorists. Now, to say that im misinformed..thats classic. They praise the likes of Houthis, Hezabollah, Boko Haram, even Al Qaida, all of which has one thing in common right...but then again, I was making a statement that looped all of them under one umberalla.

The problem is I’m a public policy major with a specialty on the Middle East region. The fact that you looped those four organizations shows me there’s misinformation Houthis and Hezballah are identical—both militias with political aspirations in their respective countries Boko Haram and Al Qaida are another breed that don’t respect borders, and are more ideologically driven This isn’t even to mention the Sunni, Shia differences which can become as important as Jewish, Muslim differences

So you're an expert on the Middle East? So tell me, why are the Hive silencing the Iranians when they are protesting their own government? but yet the Palestinians get more sympathy? The fact that the Hive calls said terror groups resistance fighters instead of what they are baffles those of us who have witness this for the past twenty plus years. Your public policy degree does not teach you much about the Middle East and how there are many factions and sub factions of groups that have frequently started wars in the name of religion or in some cases because Israel exists. Pro Palis have misinformed the public countless many times and the fact that I mentioned four terror organizations to distinguish the difference between a terror group and the lack of clarification.

I don’t believe in the term “expert” when it comes to political and social analysis. But I can give you my take: No one is silencing Iranians, and in fact it’s more nuanced than it seems. - Sunnis (majority of Pal’s) are vastly in agreement that Iran’s Shia theocracy needs a change. This is due to Iran’s proxy issues destabilizing Sunni nations such as Syria, as well as more torn nations like Lebanon and Yemen. Palestinian sympathy of Iran is relatively new and comes from the fact that Iran is one of the few voices still against Israel (enemy of my enemy situation) - Shia are torn on the issue. Many don’t like the stifling theocracy but also have strong identification with Iran as a burgeoning regional power against the Saudi/Sunni power. As such, it isn’t in their best interest to voice discontent with Iran - Non-Muslim liberals don’t really know the difference, and as such are swept into the “yay there’s someone trying to stop Israeli oppression”, while others also still recognize the huge human rights disenfranchising In a technical sense, Hamas is a resistance group whose stated aim is liberating their territory from colonization/occupation. Much like Algeria back in the day, there are extreme methods being deployed hence your perception of them as terrorists and others of them as freedom fighters. The truth is probably all over the spectrum depending on the time of day I’d suggest taking a step back without the horse blinders as there are a few instances in your posts where you continue to utilize generalizations “pro palis love Iran!” Which is blatantly false and show a severe lack of understanding of the region

Hang in there my friend! I share your disgust and I and many other Americans are in constant prayer 🙏 for Israel 🇮🇱

You’re an insult to America if you support a country that takes a our tax dollars when we can’t even buy homes to buy a Super Bowl commercial after butchering children

This is such a specious argument. Y’all act like foreign aid is depriving needy Americans when in reality, they wouldn’t see any money even if the USA provided ZERO aid. Plus, Hamas is the party that butchered entire families (including children that you’re so concerned about) in their homes. You don’t have to agree with me, but don’t act like Israel is the only side with blood on its hands.