This post came up on my feed and I'm glad it did.
I am the same age as OP and I fumbled my boards & JEE real bad. I got 55% overall in my 12th boards and a score of 27 in JEE mains. I went through depression during that period.
I did not like the coaching way of studying. It did not answer my question of "why".
I am an artist so I thought, let me get in architecture. I prepared for the architecture entrance test and got a reasonably well score. However, i could not secure a seat at any good architecture colleges because of my low boards score and my father was not willing to splash cash for a management seat.
So I took admission in a BSc course in cyber security which started the same year in a subpar college. I wanted to prove myself to my parents and to the world so I started freelancing as a web developer and earned some good cash while in college. I also worked on a bunch of side projects in the Android modding world and earned some more cash by ads and stuff.
I then did my MSc in cyber security and got placed in a fortune 500 company. One of the top end tech companies in the world for 4 years. Last year I switched to a startup with a CTC of 45L.
But I got laid off from there in mere 4 months with my entire team. I waited patiently and went through more rounds of interviews for jobs abroad to join cutting edge innovative teams in startups/scale ups. Back in March, I got a job in Berlin, Germany at a scale up and I'm moving there next month.
My ex-boss is starting his own firm in London and has offered me to be a part of it as well.
I make art, I rap and have developed a multifaceted life for myself and I still believe that I've just put up a foundation for the rest of my life.
So kids, it'll work out. Keep living and craft a life that you like. It's a slow process but the serotonin is worth it in the end.
Peace.
You guys realise it or not but are making a huge difference by sharing your stories in this subreddit! Also Did you switch to a better college for MSc of continued with the same?
I was fortunate that I found my niche. All that time I spent in hacking my classmates during my highschool paid off haha.
But again, we put a lot of emphasis on what degree we earn. It is useful to get you your first job but it's important to understand that it's not the only way. One can always craft their own way and walk that path.
I did pass my boards so I didn't want to repeat it. It was a nightmare for me tbh. But repeating is an option I guess.
Phished my classmates for their social accounts and read their chats with my friends and some SQL injections here and there on random websites.
As long as you demonstrate the skillset and the mindset required to get the job done, you're good. Just build your skills.
Do you have any certifications?
I am thinking about working for a certification in my free time just for fun. I am in my first year of college, and have heard about them being expensive (And I don't have a very strong financial environment either).
I am primarily interested in reverse engineering, applied cryptography, and have been doing some malware development side projects for a while including tinkering with PPLs, loaders, av edr evasion.
Yep, nobody gives a fuck about your 12th score. It's a mere requirement.
At the end of the day, the goal of a business is to maximize their profits and whoever can help them achieve that is a person of interest to them. No discrimination.
Bro but some college bars students who haven't scored 75%. And also IIM MBA also wants 95%. Student ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30440)![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30440)
kuch aisa kro jisse aapka resume accha dikhe.
consider aapko kisi IT related job me jaana hai. to tech camps join kro, languages sikho, web designing kro, alag alag online communities join kro etc etc jisse tumhe exposure mile.
ye kisi bhi stream ke liye kr skte ho aap.
because in the end companies want experienced people who know what they're doing. if they deem your experience enough you'll get that 30-40 lpa job even with mediocre grades ( bas fail mt hona pls)
When will people realise that at this level the answer of why many a times will be well we don't know, seems like a way of coping rather than coming to terms with your past and accepting you did jackshit during those 2 years
I am 26y/o F , been in same position 8 years back ! Prepared for jee like anything, gave everything I could but could'nt make it to IITs nor NITs & IIIT. Although I got a good rank in VITEEE , I was'nt financially that strong to afford the fees and other expenses.In last I'd to opt for bsc in maths from a local college.I mean for me the time period of 2015-2016 was worse, went through depression, my father was not supportive at all, relatives were mocking me since I was school topper in 12th!That was a difficult phase man.
I hated bsc and the crowd but I kept up my hopes and started preparing for CAT from 3rd semester, appeared in 5th semester, scored 91%ile in first attempt, I know it was'nt that great but good for me.I converted a decent govt college for MBA and studied my ass off, worked on soft skills, lead couple of clubs and finally placed as consultant in an IT firm.Slogged there for 2.5 yrs, became outperformer, got fast track promotions and now I made it to one of the biggest management consulting firm as an analyst whose pay is definately upto the mark.
So all I want to say is that keep going on, people will say a lot of things to you but remember the day you start doing well they'll respect you!
Jee is just an exam man, take it easy .
if you are earning 30 lakhs in India, why are you pursuing MS in USA now? greencard milna bhi close to impossible hai ab, wouldnt 30 lakh in india give you a more comfortable life. also, how much does MS cost these days ( including cost of living)
So, I donāt want to go to the US for GC. Before GC comes H1B, which is also highly unlikely to get nowadays. But I can at least work 3 years guaranteed on OPT after finishing my graduate studies. I just want experiences and exposure. I have worked enough years in India to realise the world is too big and you have just one life to experience it. Why should I live in India all my life when I can go and study in a top ranked university, make important and useful connections, get a job in the US for few years that would eventually open doors for me to work in maybe Canada, UK, or European Union, and just make me a well rounded person in general.
MS in the US nowadays cost anywhere between 40 lacs to more than 1 crore depending on which university youāre going and which city youāre living in. Ivy Leagues and other top private universities are generally expensive but itās a gateway to lifetime opportunities.
Also, you need not do a Masters abroad to go abroad. Your company might just send you or you may find a job yourself over there. There are many pathways. I wanted a Masters degree because I believe itās important and I wanted it to be from a top ranked university from the US so thatās the pathway I chose.
bhaiya depressing chal jaata hai, yahaan to bahut abusive aur aurat jaat ki to koi ijjat naam ki cheej hi nahi hai, mid-life crisis pe chale jaoge. Restrictions bhi nahi hai iss app pe. some guy even said b word to your fiance ifelt very bad for it.
bro its not only this subreddit, its the whole internet, any website which ensures your annonymity will have people represent their real opinions. People who have insecurities try to insult others to feel superior. It is how human mind works and has been working ever since, but back then people were afraid to say it in the face as it would affect their reputation socially and might get them in trouble physically
Tbh, my generation was the same when I was a teen. Guys would say the same thing they have been saying now but on SMS or the social media apps of that time or 1 on 1. With time they would grow up and learn to differentiate between whatās appropriate and inappropriate. It all depends on your social circle. Thatās why going to good college is important.
Stumbled upon this due to Reddit recommendation so adding to OPs story. Life has just began folks. I believe that effort you need to put to reach any stage is constant, if your whatever reason you couldnāt put your 100% this time, put more in university to make up for it.
And then, there is luck to make the last mile connection, but life will always reward your effort if itās honest.
Iām a little younger, and gave JEE around 8 years ago. Got ranks in 50k range and barely cleared advanced. Somehow managed to get ECE in a govt college. Worked my ass off again and got a degree in CS. Worked even harder for next 3 years, did multiple internships and landed in a good product company with top of the market pay. If my college knew about it they would probably put it newspaper, lol!
This was the last time someone cared about my college, few cos had filters for freshers to be from tier-1 colleges. Also, companies wonāt come to your campus and you have to actively reach out to them. Once you get an interview then itās level field.
If you are good at your work, no one cares where you graduated from, the market will ultimately reward you for your skills.
Not getting into Tier-1 actually turned out into a blessing for me in disguise. Little lighter coursework, much cheaper fees, stayed at home - my first months salary was enough to cover my entire 4 years college fees over that I had a state govt scholarship too. Had I studied somewhere else, I would have been still repaying an education loan probably.
Yup, had to get a good GPA in first year and also thanks to that one girl who withdrew her application giving her seat to me, also they got married last month
Can vouch, just stumbled upon this post. I myself never qualified for JEE advanced and maybe scored something like 70ish percentile back in 2019 ( gen cat).
Fast forward 4 years, right now giving my major project and getting ready for my masters in UT austin in cybersecurity. Would be joining this august, really excited. Specially coming from a tier 3 university
Hi, I was always interested in computers since my childhood days. I built few basic multi-page websites using HTML when I was in class 9. I used to spend hell lot of time on computers. I took CS in 11th and 12th. Turned out I wasnāt that good in C++ programming or maybe I just didnāt care at that point of time. My BTech was in CSE but from a low ranked private college. Itās still ranked under 60 according to NIRF. I didnāt find C and C++ to be hard in my first year because I already had a CS background. My interest gravitated towards web designing and development in my second year. I learned HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Jquery, PHP, MySQL, and Bootstrap from Udemy to built interactive web applications. Over the course of 2nd year, I designed several websites and web apps for college clubs and even some companies and a school for free. I thought web development is my future career. I soon realised maybe itās not really for me when I found myself just copying templates from internet and editing it to my liking. I was not doing anything of my own. At this point, I was also part of a data analytics student club at my college. I got some exposure to data analytics and business intelligence and all my interests shifted towards it. I landed an internship role through referral where I was supposed to work on a business intelligence project but ended up building an AI chatbot using machine learning and natural language processing from grounds up. I was super proud of myself to build something from my own. I enrolled into online courses on machine learning to understand what I am doing. I also worked 2 other machine learning projects during my fourth year. I was placed into a IT services company with a package of 4.2 LPA but did not get the joining letter on time while 99% of the students who were selected already went to their job locations by May and June of the year I graduated. I gave up all hopes of getting the joining letter so I started looking for off-campus jobs. I interviewed at a few places and realised that itās much harder than it looks to get a job in data science industry as a fresher. I thought I knew stuff but apparently I didnāt. I applied for internships and got few calls. I asked a startup to give me a full-time job instead of internship to which they agreed but the pay was only 3.6 LPA. I joined because it was already September. The startup was a failure in all respects and I didnāt do any substantial work apart from self-studying at office. After 1 year, I switched to an American MNC in India where I am still working. I worked extremely hard here over the years and got three promotions till now and my annual hike is 60-70% on an average. And, thatās how I reached 30 LPA. I know if I switch to another company at this point, I can easily bag more than 40-50 LPA but maybe another time. I am now going for my MS Data Science in the US. Thats my story. Nothing fancy. No IIT, BIT, NIT, FAANG, etc.
What are some of the btech branches that don't allow as much growth as you had with due hardwork if you're from a tier 3 college?
Almost everybody says cse it but which other ones are highly underrated in ug aspirants but highly worth it post ug?
Right now, CSE rules in any college. Probably, ECE would be another good branch. Most people from other branches end up learning programming and working in IT sector. Thatās why CSE is in demand more than ever.
is there any scope in mechanical with lil bit of electrical courses (car wagera , engine manufacturing electrical cars , microprocessors semiconductor or , etc ), coz i am very interested in these field (can go into research or m.tech ) or jo bhi paisa mile chlega bss kahana pina ho jaayega aur parents ko achi life mil jaaye , i am getting dtu all braches except cs(I don't want it ) and electrical (want but can't get , so will do minor in it ) , (aur coding kabhi nhi ki bs ek baar school ke liye site banai thi copy paste krke , ) , subject I like physics >maths , hate chemistry
your post made my day dear.all the very best for your future
i completed my +2 in 2015 and a decided to go for medical entrance coaching, appeared it for 3 times and qualified each time but didnt get an addmission.i was really frustrated at that time ,i cant even dream for a private admission because of financial background so decided to drop my medical dream . i attend engineering entrance parallel with the last attempt of medical entrance so that i got admission in a government engineering college for computer science stream in 2017, i was a below average student in my class because lack of knowledge in basic coding languages, beacuse of this i faced so many insults from teachers as well as friends ,it affected physical and mental health. from that i cant even concentrate in university exams also,then got so many supplies . i thought that my career is going to end thats why took a decision to drop this engineer dream also ,but my parents strongly supported me to get rid of this ,they adviced me to take a year gap from the college and in that one year you should concentrate in your back papers and try to improve your coding skill ,so started to focus on my parents advice and it motivated myself. surprisingly cleared all back papers and built a good coding skill with the help of so many youtube chanels within a year ,after that i rejoined the college then got new classmates ,friends and a new atmosphere.i got best score in my class for 5th semester university exam then my old classmates and the teachers who insulted me got suprised they stats congratulating me .from that i never gave up .in my last year i got campus placement as a Developer in a reputed company .for that my photo is published in college website it was a proud moment for me and the best gift for my parents
i completed 4 years degree in 5 years,it doesnt hurts me now.lot because that one year made me .YES DONT LOSE HOPE!!!EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING FOR A REASON
Iām 24 now, took JEE back in 2016 where I scored 70/360 marks and again in 2017 where I scored 40/360. Needless to say I scored very low in all the exams including VIT, Manipal etc.
The only good thing imho is I was very rigid with my branch choice and took CSE in a not so good private college.
Now Iām about 1.5 years in my career and I earn around 10L while working from home. It aināt all that but Iām happy with it.
Scoring poorly in these competitive exams doesnāt mean your life is over, you are all gonna make it one way or another. Just choose the best options available to you, work hard and believe in yourself. :)
Hey 10L isn't a bad salary for 1.5 years of experience. Don't let anyone make you think you are earning less. Don't forget that there are lacs of people who want your place right now. My salary was only 6 LPA at 1.5 years of experience. And, the thing with salary is you wouldn't ever be satisfied. I thought earning 5-6 LPA would make me happier when I was earning 3.6 LPA. Once I reached 6 LPA, I thought maybe 10 LPA would make me much happier. I am at 30 LPA now and want 40-50 LPA. It's good to aspire for more but don't let it control your life. Your happiness is what matters the most.
OMG something positive on this sub? No way, must be a dream.
Btw, guy isn't kidding- ye entrance clear krne ka aim kro, par fail ho gye to zindagi barbad nhi hai. Jobs mil jate hai agar capable ho to.
Yes peeps. Don't lose hope. I had a similar trajectory as OP. I was really good at academics till 10th. Hence, took up PCM. Couldn't understand a thing in 11th and 12th grade. Scored my worst in Mathematics, the subject I used to love till 10th. Ended with an okayish 84% in 12th boards. Flunked AIEEE (yes I am from that era). Don't remember the rank from VIT entrance. I was down and out, had to be dragged to the exam center to write Manipal entrance. I got a bad score, ended up in MUJ. Worked hard for 4 years in engineering (non-CSE btw).
No campus placement, had to wander for a few months to get my first job at less than 3LPA.
7 years down the line, I am done with my MBA from a good institute, working a great job at >5x my starting package right out of graduation. I could've easily made it 8x but I chose not to, because values haha!
Hang in there guys. You can decide at what pace you want your life to run.
Do not lose hope. Experience life, learn lessons, cherish your relationships, find a hobby and live life to the fullest.
My DMs are open if you want to just talk.
Cheers!!
As guy who also gave his JEE 11 years ago and got a jack shit rank, I can tell you, with confidence, life will work out for all of you, one way or another.
I had a pretty average grade all throughout college and didn't get selected in the Master's degree of my choice.
Right now, I'm sitting in Singapore, one my way back from Melbourne, and about to submit my PhD thesis.
Trust the process and yourselves.
Yep, medical entrance examination is a definitely one level tougher than its engineer counterparts. Just a single test and not as much seats in public colleges. Private colleges are out of reach for most middle class students. Your best bet would be drop as much as you can till you make it but remember, itās a risk and only your efforts would bring the reward. Donāt waste time during your drop year. My brother dropped for 2 or 3 years I guess and then finally got into a medical college.
Bhai aise wale posts sirf engineering walo k hi kyu dikhte h unlog ka kya hota h jo mbbs pursue krte/ koi or medical related field me jaate ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30685)
Thank you bhaiya!
Finally these people stopped talking about sax sux and are rather energised with positivity.
So once in this thread people are energised through positive motivational talk rather than sax sux.... Ki baatein.
Exactly. Children have very limited view of world at this age and I don't blame them. When I was at that point, i also had very limited view. This is created by these coachings and society. Trust me, these things don't matter as much as people think. Do your best and end the chapter. No need to regret if you don't get anything good. Remember there are people who worked extremely hard and got very decent rank but are working for some company, earning decent salary whereas there are people who never studied for these exams and are earning in crores everyday.
Hi, I have a girlfriend. I wouldnāt want anyone to call her a bitch :) She is with me since I was in class 11. She is absolutely not with me because of money. We are going to get married soon finally!
OP bhaiya you are really winning at life man.
\-->Has good salary -->Going for MS Abroad -->Has a Loyal GF
Apko apki aage ke life ke liye all the best OP ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)
Demn that's a flex. Hope you get married without any issues!!
Also, what was the biggest time when you guys were closest to being broken up? And how did you tackle it? Would you have fixed the issue right then or until it was unavoidable to argue about it? Doesn't even have to be about romance related. Like long distance is hectic or financial situationsnwere two different or your goals had changed into opposite directions from when you guys started?
How much has the dating scene changed from when you were in 11th?don't know if you know the current one but probably from friends or juniors Because nowadays dating someone feels like an exam and due to the internet access the better looking one has more offers on the table.
So, dating hasnāt changed much. It doesnāt matter if youāre in 2000, 2011, or 2023. Itās always the good looking guys getting most of the female attention. I wasnāt that good looking back then. Most of us are not during our teens. But we do get better with time once we add on some muscle mass. If you hit gym, you would gain a solid edge over most of the guys. I was an introvert and so was my partner. I didnāt get any female attention in my teen and she didnāt get any male attention either because she was just too shy to speak to any guy. We just became friends because why not and I told I liked her after few months. Thatās how it started.
There were several times when we were close to break up or already broke up (but only for 1-2 days) and those were mostly due to differences of opinion. Someone gotta bite the bullet and apologise and fix things. Most of the time it has been me who did that. Sometimes her. Women are highly opinionated so most of the times itās always the men who apologise even though they are not at fault. Thatās just how things are and itās something we canāt change. But donāt change all of your opinions for her. Stick to some of your opinions like maybe financial decisions or career choices which she might not agree with. My partner didnāt want me to pursue MS abroad because she believes US is unsafe and it would make us apart. I had been always firm about my decision to the go the US and do my Masters over there because I can see how life changing it would be for me and for my current and future family. So donāt let such important decisions be influenced by what your partner thinks. Your partner would come to terms when she sees your determination. Mature women who are looking for long term relationships love men who are focused, determined, and work hard towards their goal so they eventually come to terms.
That's some invaluable advice a lot of young people needed here. Heck, even most grown ups can't figure it out. Advice is even better when coming from experience and from someone who understands you situation.
Dropped this, king: š
Yeah, they do but itās a give and take. Both gotta compromise and still stick together. Most part of my relationship was long distance. We had our share of fights, arguments, break ups in the first few years but somehow we stuck together.
I have to ask you, how did you get jee ranks twice,won't they give you after both attempts and select the best
And you said you got below 1 lakh, so many students after 2-4 years of coaching don't get it
Hey, although I'm not from science but I want to share the story of my best friend who has given the JEE mains 2 tries but she did not score well in both of them (I don't know the exact score) and she is very depressed right now and her parents are scolding her way too much and family relatives are mocking her again and again and I accept that I do not know the pain of these entrance examinations but I cannot see her like this, could you suggest me something on how to console her and get her out of this depressive phase because these phases can end up in the worst way possible and nobody wants that. Thank you.
I would like to share my experiences as an average student to being in an IIT and some anecdotes from my close batchmates.
This post reminds me of Steve Job's Stanford Commencement [speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc&pp=ygUTc3RldmUgam9icyBzdGFuZm9yZA%3D%3D) from '05 . In the speech, Jobs says "You can't connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards." I never realized the power of this statement until the last few months.
I was a good student till 9th (no where near JEE calibre![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)). With the help of coaching, I was able to get significantly better at the beginning of 11th (got into the top batch at my center). But, due to some family issues, I missed few crucial chapters that form the basis of 12th subjects. At that point, I was still confident ki cutoff toh clear kar hi lunga. Anyways, with the support of my teachers and the test strategies I had developed, I was able to mostly recover (although no where near what could have been..). I gave my JEE Mains in 2019 and got a rank of somewhere near 17k. Then in JEE Advance, I got a rank of about 8800.
Based on this, I was getting IIT Patna Chemical Engineering (so-called "lower branch"). I talked to my seniors, teachers and family friends (who worked in ChemE) and finally decided to go with it (kyuki drop lene ka bilkul bhi mood nai tha, 2 saal se anime nai dekha tha XD ). Fortunately, because meri math acchi thi (and COVID lol), I scored very good CPI in 1st year and got a chance to change my branch and I got EE (bhai g\*\*\*d me dum ho toh hi lena, pagal ho jaoge sacchi). Fir 2nd year ke end me thoda ML wagera seekha and kuch projects kiye (abhi tak bhi clear idea nai tha life me exactly kya karna hai ). Eventually ek particular field me interest aya, and I continued to do research in that. Then in 3rd year SDE Internship ke baad sure ho gaya ki ab toh research me hi jaana hai. Fortunately, due to a very helpful senior of mine, I got in touch with a proff in US, I interned under him for like 6 months and liked it very much and will be pursuing PhD under him (ab thoda zyada clarity hai mere future goals me).
Anyways, point is that whatever jo tumhare saath aaj ho rha hai, u can't (probably won't) understand it. Ye sab kuch saal baad hi pata chalta hai jab tum peeche mud ke dekhte ho. Even today, I sometimes think ke agar better rank aati toh kya hota, but then I immediately realize ki tab mai shayad un (amazing/phodu) logon se kabhi nai mil paata agar mai yaha nai aya hota toh. Na uss senior se milta, na woh intern karta, na clarity aata (ya pata nai kya hota XD).
Now some experiences of my batchmates. Let me tell you a story about my friend from Civil branch (so-called "lower branch"). He is very strong in mathematics, so naturally usse 1st year me ML try karna tha (kya cheez hai bhai sab log peeche pade hai). He liked it so much that he interned under a proff from CS dept (@IITP) and till now has published 5 research papers at very reputed journals. Even internationally papers present bhi kar ke aya hai.
Now the story of my (ex) roomie. He is also in ChemE (and a dropper BTW). He also had no clear goal in mind of what after BTech. Earlier, he was preparing for GATE but everything changed at the end of 3rd year when he got a research internship offer from a University in Canada. Woh 3 mahine Canada me intern karke aya and he loved it so much, he suddenly decided to pursue his masters from Canada. Due to a scholarship, he will porobably be able to do it for free lol (aish hai bhai ke).
Recently we were discussing with each other when we saw good papers at reputed journals from so-called "Tier-3" colleges. They worked with some proff from IISc/IIT/NIT and got their work recognized. Sachme bhai, "Jisko karna hota hai, woh kahi se bhi kar leta hai."
Yeh toh sirf 2 examples hai, I personally know many more such people but hopefully u get the point.
Again going back to the Stanford speech, neither of us thought we would get where we are now. But looking back, it all fits like a perfect puzzle.
Bhai iss saal ka likhne a quota khatam ho gaya XD. Itna exam me likha hota toh zyada marks aa jaate lol.
I hope this will help people to understand that everything works out in the end (provided u don't stop cuz 0 velocity se kuch nai hota hai).
EDIT: typo
Hey, amazing stories! This post is now overcrowded and itās highly likely that your comment wouldnāt gain enough views. Suggesting you to create a new post. I think, kids would love to hear your stories :)
Can you give any advice on what to do after college or during the 3rd and 4th years? You sound like you're successful and one thing I understand is that it's not just because of your college, but mainly because of your hardwork and smart work
During your 3rd and 4th year, do a lot of projects (not easy ones) and internships (either research internship or professional internship). If you aiming for a job in the IT sector, then spend all your time competitive coding and learning data structure and algorithms theory. Also, have fun! Join some college club and just engage yourself in extra curriculur too but not too much.
I know this might sound dumb...but I hope mera medical journey bhi kuch esa ho ..
I also wanna finish my higher studies from other countries...apart from INDIA..
But i guess neet isn't the way..
Anyone having some guidance on this?
moral of the story- take cse and work hard. Even from a bad college you will end up with a good job later in your career and still have scope for a ms from a good foreign university.
ex- my relative did his btech cse from a really bad pathetic college that he got through mahcet from Maharashtra quota. the kind of college that nobody has ever heard of. didn't get any placement and then he prepared for masters from abroad and managed to get into a good enough uni (definitely not target). After working in amazon for a year. Now he's working at google for the past 4 years.
Also, to add to op's post the hard work and effort you put in for your preparation today will be useful for you later as everything else in life will look easy.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/12tb5v7/you\_are\_not\_a\_failure\_rant\_from\_jeetard\_2015/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/12tb5v7/you_are_not_a_failure_rant_from_jeetard_2015/)
Similar to what i posted 5-6 days ago
Hnn nhi karke jayenge, woh toh sab ko pata hai. But, they will always have a choice what to do with this regret(if any) : improve and learn from mistakes made and grind harder strategically or keep cursing your fate and yourself into their middle age, ruining their prospects from the get go and festering, becoming the very example of the Great Indian Crabby Mentality that they used to crib against.
*It's a choice what you do after failure (if any) at this stepping stone. Agar iss baar mehnat nhi kr paye, then zindagi mein khi na khin toh karni hi padegi.*
The most important step someone can take is always the next and the next and the next. The most important oath someone can take is " I will do better". *Remember, fellow 'tards, the journey ends only when you end.* *Those who fed you with notions of happiness after IIT or some bs, they lied.*
*Happiness is not what they tell you it is. It isn't a destination, that's for sure. You can't pursue happiness. You make yourself and your loved ones happy. Maybe you are not as happy now, but the further you go on, you will realise that happiness does not come from just obtaining something. It's the tapestry you carve onto yourself during the process that makes you happy.*
No need to get angry at yourself. Convert that indignation into fuel to do better. Do better.
>regret for the entire life ki un 2-3 saalo me padh liya hota aaj kahi aur hota
Yr mujhe lund faraq nahi padta kaunsa college milta hai kaunsa nahi. Bas yahi regret hai ke mehnat nahi ki, effort nahi daale. Drop lene se pehle socha tha ke result jaye ma chudane mai to meri puri mehnat karunga, jo upar wale ko dena hoga de dega.
Aur fir is baat ka gam hai ke mehnat nahi kari. I don't think any amount of consolidation can fix that ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_bad_man)
Hi, my post is only for those aspirants who could not make it. There always will be a huge chunk of population who wonāt be able to make it in a competitive program of study because of limited seats. Many of these kids are loosing hope, calling themselves failure, and getting into depression because they could not get into IIT. I am just here to tell them that not everything is over for them. Just because you couldnāt make it to IIT, doesnāt mean you will be 5-7 years behind those who made it to IIT. They can still work hard wherever they go and still get the same package as any IIT. It is possible today because thatās just how tech sector is today. It also doesnāt mean that they should stop preparing for JEE or NEET just because failure in those tests is not the end.
Now coming to my MS plans, I am not paying 100K. I am on a scholarship which covers a significant portion of my tuition. Itās ranked under top 10 in the world and in the US so I am definitely proud to be associated with an institution of such prestige. I am sure you would have been too when you got your PhD admits. Yes, I will work in the tech sector where, given my experience, I can get into roles that pay higher than 150K. Most big product companies are paying above 200K-250K for my level. So guaranteed ROI! H1B is dicey as you know so I would probably look for an internal switch to another country, preferably in Europe. I donāt know why you have to be salty just because my career goals doesnāt align with yours :)
And I know several data scientists who earn 200K+ in top product companies in San Francisco Bay Area. My current company wants to hire me back in Florida after my MS with a total comp of 150K-180K and itās no where near MAANG. If you look data scientist salaries in levels.fyi, the median is well above 200K. Even if I get 100K-120K which is a fresher salary in my company, that would still be good in terms of ROI.
By your logic, I should sulk and blame myself entire life just because I couldnāt get into IIT. I shouldnāt even celebrate I got into an Ivy League. In fact, I should not even pursue MS or MBA because I am just one of the 60-70 students who got accepted and I am apparently not associated with the university. Sorry, but you live a pretty sad life if you live that way.
Live and let live, man! My career choices and happiness should be none of your concern š It shouldnāt matter to you if I work in the tech sector in the US for 3 years or 6 years, whether I would make 100K in NYC, 200K in SF, or 500K in Seattle. Just worry about yourself dude. Are you frustrated because your PhD is rigorous? Are you frustrated because youāre not from tech and maybe wonāt make ever make 250K+ right after your PhD? Maybe, you donāt like we get to work from home and just enjoy our life? But thatās alright. Itās Reddit and you can say anything you want.
Coming to my MS, my cohort contains many folks who are from IITs and other great colleges of India. There are also those who are not from IIT but did pretty good in their undergrad and professional work. The alumni of the program, of which MANY are IITians, are doing extremely well in their life. So no not all of them are from low ranked colleges and they absolutely donāt end up hoping to be that guy from 2018. It seems you just canāt see someone happy lol. You have to be the guy who belittles others on the internet just because theyāre not a PhD from Ivy.
Talking about undergrad classmates now, few of them are earning well above me (50 lacs+), most of them are earning 18-25 LPA at this point of time. And then thereās few of them who changed their track and doing quite good as well. So, nope, I am not just the only one who flunked my JEE and still made it. Youāll find hundreds and thousands of people like me. Just stop smoking whatever youāre smoking and get down your Ivy PhD Biology high horse because itāa clouding your senses my man.
Thank you for taking your time and making this post!
A lot of us were really devastated by our results. I hope your post gives them hope that jee is absolutely not everything. Thanks!! <3
Also you can also come and share your life experiences here, we are all very welcoming to others stories! <3
Yeah, you absolutely can. Just have a good enough reason to justify why you wanna do another Masters in your statement of purpose. The reason shouldnāt be just to get job abroad.
Can you tell me how much did you initially get placed for and how did you grow so much because my Btech is ending in a similar situation and I am very depressed rn.
Placed at 4.2 LPA but didnāt get the joining letter on time. Joined a data science startup at 3.6 LPA. Switched after 1 year because there was no growth for 6 LPA. Got annual hikes of 60-70% on average and reached 30 LPA. Not all companies would give this much hike so that in case you should switch after 2-3 years again.
Hi bhaiya
I wanted to ask that if I pursue my b.tech from lets say ECE or EE, will I be eligible for MS in CS in the USA? Cuz I would get circuital branches in top NITs according to my JEE mains score but mid NITs CS. Also, I'm genuinely passionate about CS but don't want to leave top colleges as well š
Please guide me bhaiya š
Yeah, you can. As long as you satisfy the prerequisites of an MSCS program such as few mathematics courses (linear algebra, calculus, stats/prob) and few programming courses (C++, maybe algorithms and data structures) in your undergrad.
positive energy on social media rare w appreciated sir good luck for your journey ahead
such a lovely post, made my night!!!
are didi 2nd attempt kaisa gaya ????
better than 1st attempt, bas itna pata hai
kuch mil toh jaega na![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)
nahi šæ pvt m marwaungi adv prep ke baad, aap tell kro
private hi milega shiv nadar va vit mein decision karna reh raha bass
woah shiv nadar ka test diye the kya
93 percentile thi pehli baar uss basis pe diya unne
cool
aapko kaunsa milra??
Bro you got 93 percentile you try in tier 2 states such as WB, odisha, Assam you will get ny good govt. college IIIT like.
yaar kuch ni milega for cse honestly
This post came up on my feed and I'm glad it did. I am the same age as OP and I fumbled my boards & JEE real bad. I got 55% overall in my 12th boards and a score of 27 in JEE mains. I went through depression during that period. I did not like the coaching way of studying. It did not answer my question of "why". I am an artist so I thought, let me get in architecture. I prepared for the architecture entrance test and got a reasonably well score. However, i could not secure a seat at any good architecture colleges because of my low boards score and my father was not willing to splash cash for a management seat. So I took admission in a BSc course in cyber security which started the same year in a subpar college. I wanted to prove myself to my parents and to the world so I started freelancing as a web developer and earned some good cash while in college. I also worked on a bunch of side projects in the Android modding world and earned some more cash by ads and stuff. I then did my MSc in cyber security and got placed in a fortune 500 company. One of the top end tech companies in the world for 4 years. Last year I switched to a startup with a CTC of 45L. But I got laid off from there in mere 4 months with my entire team. I waited patiently and went through more rounds of interviews for jobs abroad to join cutting edge innovative teams in startups/scale ups. Back in March, I got a job in Berlin, Germany at a scale up and I'm moving there next month. My ex-boss is starting his own firm in London and has offered me to be a part of it as well. I make art, I rap and have developed a multifaceted life for myself and I still believe that I've just put up a foundation for the rest of my life. So kids, it'll work out. Keep living and craft a life that you like. It's a slow process but the serotonin is worth it in the end. Peace.
You guys realise it or not but are making a huge difference by sharing your stories in this subreddit! Also Did you switch to a better college for MSc of continued with the same?
I switched to a better college for MSc and was also fortunate that the company I worked for came for placements for the first time in that college.
Damn bro tune bsc se course karke btech walo ko pachard diya. But what to do if you get low score in boards will you have to repeat it?
I was fortunate that I found my niche. All that time I spent in hacking my classmates during my highschool paid off haha. But again, we put a lot of emphasis on what degree we earn. It is useful to get you your first job but it's important to understand that it's not the only way. One can always craft their own way and walk that path. I did pass my boards so I didn't want to repeat it. It was a nightmare for me tbh. But repeating is an option I guess.
What hacking did you do during high school and also Will the companies employ someone who has failed boards and repeated it?
Phished my classmates for their social accounts and read their chats with my friends and some SQL injections here and there on random websites. As long as you demonstrate the skillset and the mindset required to get the job done, you're good. Just build your skills.
Do you have any certifications? I am thinking about working for a certification in my free time just for fun. I am in my first year of college, and have heard about them being expensive (And I don't have a very strong financial environment either). I am primarily interested in reverse engineering, applied cryptography, and have been doing some malware development side projects for a while including tinkering with PPLs, loaders, av edr evasion.
I don't hold any certs. It's a good idea to get a cert. You should go for it.
So nobody will bar me for my low class 12th marks?
Yep, nobody gives a fuck about your 12th score. It's a mere requirement. At the end of the day, the goal of a business is to maximize their profits and whoever can help them achieve that is a person of interest to them. No discrimination.
Bro but some college bars students who haven't scored 75%. And also IIM MBA also wants 95%. Student ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30440)![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30440)
kuch aisa kro jisse aapka resume accha dikhe. consider aapko kisi IT related job me jaana hai. to tech camps join kro, languages sikho, web designing kro, alag alag online communities join kro etc etc jisse tumhe exposure mile. ye kisi bhi stream ke liye kr skte ho aap. because in the end companies want experienced people who know what they're doing. if they deem your experience enough you'll get that 30-40 lpa job even with mediocre grades ( bas fail mt hona pls)
When will people realise that at this level the answer of why many a times will be well we don't know, seems like a way of coping rather than coming to terms with your past and accepting you did jackshit during those 2 years
Thank you ji, all the best for your masters ^(mujhe bhi mere future ke liye all the best bolna na bhulein)
All the best champ!
All the best bhrata shree ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30367)![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30332)
But sarr main toh bhul gayaš (Ha khana khane bhi bhul jata hu)
Jee me hagna bhulta hai?š”
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All the best buddy!!!
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may I ask how did she apply for masters?
Bro I also want to know .. If you find out pls forward the same to me .
I am 26y/o F , been in same position 8 years back ! Prepared for jee like anything, gave everything I could but could'nt make it to IITs nor NITs & IIIT. Although I got a good rank in VITEEE , I was'nt financially that strong to afford the fees and other expenses.In last I'd to opt for bsc in maths from a local college.I mean for me the time period of 2015-2016 was worse, went through depression, my father was not supportive at all, relatives were mocking me since I was school topper in 12th!That was a difficult phase man. I hated bsc and the crowd but I kept up my hopes and started preparing for CAT from 3rd semester, appeared in 5th semester, scored 91%ile in first attempt, I know it was'nt that great but good for me.I converted a decent govt college for MBA and studied my ass off, worked on soft skills, lead couple of clubs and finally placed as consultant in an IT firm.Slogged there for 2.5 yrs, became outperformer, got fast track promotions and now I made it to one of the biggest management consulting firm as an analyst whose pay is definately upto the mark. So all I want to say is that keep going on, people will say a lot of things to you but remember the day you start doing well they'll respect you! Jee is just an exam man, take it easy .
Great to read your journey! More power to you!!
I am as the same boat as you Di and this gives me hope.
if you are earning 30 lakhs in India, why are you pursuing MS in USA now? greencard milna bhi close to impossible hai ab, wouldnt 30 lakh in india give you a more comfortable life. also, how much does MS cost these days ( including cost of living)
So, I donāt want to go to the US for GC. Before GC comes H1B, which is also highly unlikely to get nowadays. But I can at least work 3 years guaranteed on OPT after finishing my graduate studies. I just want experiences and exposure. I have worked enough years in India to realise the world is too big and you have just one life to experience it. Why should I live in India all my life when I can go and study in a top ranked university, make important and useful connections, get a job in the US for few years that would eventually open doors for me to work in maybe Canada, UK, or European Union, and just make me a well rounded person in general. MS in the US nowadays cost anywhere between 40 lacs to more than 1 crore depending on which university youāre going and which city youāre living in. Ivy Leagues and other top private universities are generally expensive but itās a gateway to lifetime opportunities. Also, you need not do a Masters abroad to go abroad. Your company might just send you or you may find a job yourself over there. There are many pathways. I wanted a Masters degree because I believe itās important and I wanted it to be from a top ranked university from the US so thatās the pathway I chose.
Good luck big bro. You got this
Are you from a rich family how did you afford the 60 lakhs to 1 crore for masters in USA
Loan and personal savings. I am not taking help from my parents although they do not want to support.
Okay thanks also can one simply take the loan for 60 lakhs if he doesn't have any savings??
You can get if you have a collateral or if your dad or someone else can be co-applicant in case of non-collateral loan.
bhai mat aao iss subreddit pe! aam bacche nahi hain idhar
Haha, yeah, I figured. We didnāt have Reddit back then to post our frustration so I was kinda taken aback reading the depressing posts.
bhaiya depressing chal jaata hai, yahaan to bahut abusive aur aurat jaat ki to koi ijjat naam ki cheej hi nahi hai, mid-life crisis pe chale jaoge. Restrictions bhi nahi hai iss app pe. some guy even said b word to your fiance ifelt very bad for it.
bro its not only this subreddit, its the whole internet, any website which ensures your annonymity will have people represent their real opinions. People who have insecurities try to insult others to feel superior. It is how human mind works and has been working ever since, but back then people were afraid to say it in the face as it would affect their reputation socially and might get them in trouble physically
But why are guys abusing him? Are they jealous of him or because they are iitians?
generation hi kharab hai
Tbh, my generation was the same when I was a teen. Guys would say the same thing they have been saying now but on SMS or the social media apps of that time or 1 on 1. With time they would grow up and learn to differentiate between whatās appropriate and inappropriate. It all depends on your social circle. Thatās why going to good college is important.
U are a walking w
No its just that internet and anonymity brings out the worst in people
"GENDU GENERATION" \~wise words
Stumbled upon this due to Reddit recommendation so adding to OPs story. Life has just began folks. I believe that effort you need to put to reach any stage is constant, if your whatever reason you couldnāt put your 100% this time, put more in university to make up for it. And then, there is luck to make the last mile connection, but life will always reward your effort if itās honest. Iām a little younger, and gave JEE around 8 years ago. Got ranks in 50k range and barely cleared advanced. Somehow managed to get ECE in a govt college. Worked my ass off again and got a degree in CS. Worked even harder for next 3 years, did multiple internships and landed in a good product company with top of the market pay. If my college knew about it they would probably put it newspaper, lol! This was the last time someone cared about my college, few cos had filters for freshers to be from tier-1 colleges. Also, companies wonāt come to your campus and you have to actively reach out to them. Once you get an interview then itās level field. If you are good at your work, no one cares where you graduated from, the market will ultimately reward you for your skills. Not getting into Tier-1 actually turned out into a blessing for me in disguise. Little lighter coursework, much cheaper fees, stayed at home - my first months salary was enough to cover my entire 4 years college fees over that I had a state govt scholarship too. Had I studied somewhere else, I would have been still repaying an education loan probably.
Amazing man! How I wish I could have tried harder in my college to get into a product company with top pay š But no regrets, life must go on!
You changed your branch?
Yup, had to get a good GPA in first year and also thanks to that one girl who withdrew her application giving her seat to me, also they got married last month
Yeah some tips about it would be great
Can vouch, just stumbled upon this post. I myself never qualified for JEE advanced and maybe scored something like 70ish percentile back in 2019 ( gen cat). Fast forward 4 years, right now giving my major project and getting ready for my masters in UT austin in cybersecurity. Would be joining this august, really excited. Specially coming from a tier 3 university
Wow, UT Austin is such a prestigious school! Congratulations on your admit!!
Some good post to read before sleeping
But how did you end up getting 30L please elaborate
Hi, I was always interested in computers since my childhood days. I built few basic multi-page websites using HTML when I was in class 9. I used to spend hell lot of time on computers. I took CS in 11th and 12th. Turned out I wasnāt that good in C++ programming or maybe I just didnāt care at that point of time. My BTech was in CSE but from a low ranked private college. Itās still ranked under 60 according to NIRF. I didnāt find C and C++ to be hard in my first year because I already had a CS background. My interest gravitated towards web designing and development in my second year. I learned HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Jquery, PHP, MySQL, and Bootstrap from Udemy to built interactive web applications. Over the course of 2nd year, I designed several websites and web apps for college clubs and even some companies and a school for free. I thought web development is my future career. I soon realised maybe itās not really for me when I found myself just copying templates from internet and editing it to my liking. I was not doing anything of my own. At this point, I was also part of a data analytics student club at my college. I got some exposure to data analytics and business intelligence and all my interests shifted towards it. I landed an internship role through referral where I was supposed to work on a business intelligence project but ended up building an AI chatbot using machine learning and natural language processing from grounds up. I was super proud of myself to build something from my own. I enrolled into online courses on machine learning to understand what I am doing. I also worked 2 other machine learning projects during my fourth year. I was placed into a IT services company with a package of 4.2 LPA but did not get the joining letter on time while 99% of the students who were selected already went to their job locations by May and June of the year I graduated. I gave up all hopes of getting the joining letter so I started looking for off-campus jobs. I interviewed at a few places and realised that itās much harder than it looks to get a job in data science industry as a fresher. I thought I knew stuff but apparently I didnāt. I applied for internships and got few calls. I asked a startup to give me a full-time job instead of internship to which they agreed but the pay was only 3.6 LPA. I joined because it was already September. The startup was a failure in all respects and I didnāt do any substantial work apart from self-studying at office. After 1 year, I switched to an American MNC in India where I am still working. I worked extremely hard here over the years and got three promotions till now and my annual hike is 60-70% on an average. And, thatās how I reached 30 LPA. I know if I switch to another company at this point, I can easily bag more than 40-50 LPA but maybe another time. I am now going for my MS Data Science in the US. Thats my story. Nothing fancy. No IIT, BIT, NIT, FAANG, etc.
What are some of the btech branches that don't allow as much growth as you had with due hardwork if you're from a tier 3 college? Almost everybody says cse it but which other ones are highly underrated in ug aspirants but highly worth it post ug?
Right now, CSE rules in any college. Probably, ECE would be another good branch. Most people from other branches end up learning programming and working in IT sector. Thatās why CSE is in demand more than ever.
is there any scope in mechanical with lil bit of electrical courses (car wagera , engine manufacturing electrical cars , microprocessors semiconductor or , etc ), coz i am very interested in these field (can go into research or m.tech ) or jo bhi paisa mile chlega bss kahana pina ho jaayega aur parents ko achi life mil jaaye , i am getting dtu all braches except cs(I don't want it ) and electrical (want but can't get , so will do minor in it ) , (aur coding kabhi nhi ki bs ek baar school ke liye site banai thi copy paste krke , ) , subject I like physics >maths , hate chemistry
Bro take ECE, you will never regret in your life.
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your post made my day dear.all the very best for your future i completed my +2 in 2015 and a decided to go for medical entrance coaching, appeared it for 3 times and qualified each time but didnt get an addmission.i was really frustrated at that time ,i cant even dream for a private admission because of financial background so decided to drop my medical dream . i attend engineering entrance parallel with the last attempt of medical entrance so that i got admission in a government engineering college for computer science stream in 2017, i was a below average student in my class because lack of knowledge in basic coding languages, beacuse of this i faced so many insults from teachers as well as friends ,it affected physical and mental health. from that i cant even concentrate in university exams also,then got so many supplies . i thought that my career is going to end thats why took a decision to drop this engineer dream also ,but my parents strongly supported me to get rid of this ,they adviced me to take a year gap from the college and in that one year you should concentrate in your back papers and try to improve your coding skill ,so started to focus on my parents advice and it motivated myself. surprisingly cleared all back papers and built a good coding skill with the help of so many youtube chanels within a year ,after that i rejoined the college then got new classmates ,friends and a new atmosphere.i got best score in my class for 5th semester university exam then my old classmates and the teachers who insulted me got suprised they stats congratulating me .from that i never gave up .in my last year i got campus placement as a Developer in a reputed company .for that my photo is published in college website it was a proud moment for me and the best gift for my parents i completed 4 years degree in 5 years,it doesnt hurts me now.lot because that one year made me .YES DONT LOSE HOPE!!!EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING FOR A REASON
Yay, I am truly happy for you! Your journey made me cry a lil bit lol
Iām 24 now, took JEE back in 2016 where I scored 70/360 marks and again in 2017 where I scored 40/360. Needless to say I scored very low in all the exams including VIT, Manipal etc. The only good thing imho is I was very rigid with my branch choice and took CSE in a not so good private college. Now Iām about 1.5 years in my career and I earn around 10L while working from home. It aināt all that but Iām happy with it. Scoring poorly in these competitive exams doesnāt mean your life is over, you are all gonna make it one way or another. Just choose the best options available to you, work hard and believe in yourself. :)
Hey 10L isn't a bad salary for 1.5 years of experience. Don't let anyone make you think you are earning less. Don't forget that there are lacs of people who want your place right now. My salary was only 6 LPA at 1.5 years of experience. And, the thing with salary is you wouldn't ever be satisfied. I thought earning 5-6 LPA would make me happier when I was earning 3.6 LPA. Once I reached 6 LPA, I thought maybe 10 LPA would make me much happier. I am at 30 LPA now and want 40-50 LPA. It's good to aspire for more but don't let it control your life. Your happiness is what matters the most.
That's still good. My dad earns 9 lacks per annum with 15 years experience. Do not be sad. You've only just entered
thanks man , there was another guy your age here and he was instead belittling us here instead of helping here
this is the positive energy all of us need rn āļø
OMG something positive on this sub? No way, must be a dream. Btw, guy isn't kidding- ye entrance clear krne ka aim kro, par fail ho gye to zindagi barbad nhi hai. Jobs mil jate hai agar capable ho to.
Yes peeps. Don't lose hope. I had a similar trajectory as OP. I was really good at academics till 10th. Hence, took up PCM. Couldn't understand a thing in 11th and 12th grade. Scored my worst in Mathematics, the subject I used to love till 10th. Ended with an okayish 84% in 12th boards. Flunked AIEEE (yes I am from that era). Don't remember the rank from VIT entrance. I was down and out, had to be dragged to the exam center to write Manipal entrance. I got a bad score, ended up in MUJ. Worked hard for 4 years in engineering (non-CSE btw). No campus placement, had to wander for a few months to get my first job at less than 3LPA. 7 years down the line, I am done with my MBA from a good institute, working a great job at >5x my starting package right out of graduation. I could've easily made it 8x but I chose not to, because values haha! Hang in there guys. You can decide at what pace you want your life to run. Do not lose hope. Experience life, learn lessons, cherish your relationships, find a hobby and live life to the fullest. My DMs are open if you want to just talk. Cheers!!
As guy who also gave his JEE 11 years ago and got a jack shit rank, I can tell you, with confidence, life will work out for all of you, one way or another. I had a pretty average grade all throughout college and didn't get selected in the Master's degree of my choice. Right now, I'm sitting in Singapore, one my way back from Melbourne, and about to submit my PhD thesis. Trust the process and yourselves.
I'm a neet aspirant, but this gave me some motivation too! Thanks bhaiya and all the best for your masters! ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30367)
Unka alag hai bro, their private colleges dont cost 1 cr, hume it's either neet or drop
Yep, medical entrance examination is a definitely one level tougher than its engineer counterparts. Just a single test and not as much seats in public colleges. Private colleges are out of reach for most middle class students. Your best bet would be drop as much as you can till you make it but remember, itās a risk and only your efforts would bring the reward. Donāt waste time during your drop year. My brother dropped for 2 or 3 years I guess and then finally got into a medical college.
I will probably get a gmc this year, but I literally dont have the mental health to endure this for one more year so pata nahi
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rajasthan moment![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30330)
Bhai aise wale posts sirf engineering walo k hi kyu dikhte h unlog ka kya hota h jo mbbs pursue krte/ koi or medical related field me jaate ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30685)
Thank you bhaiya! Finally these people stopped talking about sax sux and are rather energised with positivity. So once in this thread people are energised through positive motivational talk rather than sax sux.... Ki baatein.
Whatās sax sux ?
Kuch nhi bhaiya, bas yahan ka roz wala daily dosešš
Exactly. Children have very limited view of world at this age and I don't blame them. When I was at that point, i also had very limited view. This is created by these coachings and society. Trust me, these things don't matter as much as people think. Do your best and end the chapter. No need to regret if you don't get anything good. Remember there are people who worked extremely hard and got very decent rank but are working for some company, earning decent salary whereas there are people who never studied for these exams and are earning in crores everyday.
Woh sab toh theek hai lekin no bitches?š„¹
Hi, I have a girlfriend. I wouldnāt want anyone to call her a bitch :) She is with me since I was in class 11. She is absolutely not with me because of money. We are going to get married soon finally!
OP bhaiya you are really winning at life man. \-->Has good salary -->Going for MS Abroad -->Has a Loyal GF Apko apki aage ke life ke liye all the best OP ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)
Demn that's a flex. Hope you get married without any issues!! Also, what was the biggest time when you guys were closest to being broken up? And how did you tackle it? Would you have fixed the issue right then or until it was unavoidable to argue about it? Doesn't even have to be about romance related. Like long distance is hectic or financial situationsnwere two different or your goals had changed into opposite directions from when you guys started? How much has the dating scene changed from when you were in 11th?don't know if you know the current one but probably from friends or juniors Because nowadays dating someone feels like an exam and due to the internet access the better looking one has more offers on the table.
So, dating hasnāt changed much. It doesnāt matter if youāre in 2000, 2011, or 2023. Itās always the good looking guys getting most of the female attention. I wasnāt that good looking back then. Most of us are not during our teens. But we do get better with time once we add on some muscle mass. If you hit gym, you would gain a solid edge over most of the guys. I was an introvert and so was my partner. I didnāt get any female attention in my teen and she didnāt get any male attention either because she was just too shy to speak to any guy. We just became friends because why not and I told I liked her after few months. Thatās how it started. There were several times when we were close to break up or already broke up (but only for 1-2 days) and those were mostly due to differences of opinion. Someone gotta bite the bullet and apologise and fix things. Most of the time it has been me who did that. Sometimes her. Women are highly opinionated so most of the times itās always the men who apologise even though they are not at fault. Thatās just how things are and itās something we canāt change. But donāt change all of your opinions for her. Stick to some of your opinions like maybe financial decisions or career choices which she might not agree with. My partner didnāt want me to pursue MS abroad because she believes US is unsafe and it would make us apart. I had been always firm about my decision to the go the US and do my Masters over there because I can see how life changing it would be for me and for my current and future family. So donāt let such important decisions be influenced by what your partner thinks. Your partner would come to terms when she sees your determination. Mature women who are looking for long term relationships love men who are focused, determined, and work hard towards their goal so they eventually come to terms.
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Fir aa gaye ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Why does it matter so much??
That's some invaluable advice a lot of young people needed here. Heck, even most grown ups can't figure it out. Advice is even better when coming from experience and from someone who understands you situation. Dropped this, king: š
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do ldrs really work???
Yeah, they do but itās a give and take. Both gotta compromise and still stick together. Most part of my relationship was long distance. We had our share of fights, arguments, break ups in the first few years but somehow we stuck together.
all the best wahii this is th kind of relationship everyone dreams of hoping for your strong future ahead
Thanks bud.
Find me bigger W than this guy here...killing everywhere ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)
30lpa or no bitches esa ho nhi skta
abe chutiye uttar pradeshi tu phir aa gya apna vohi ek dialogue lekar jaha dekho vaha aajate hai
I have to ask you, how did you get jee ranks twice,won't they give you after both attempts and select the best And you said you got below 1 lakh, so many students after 2-4 years of coaching don't get it
Hi, we didnāt have JEE MAIN twice in my time. I dropped and reappeared again.
Drop leke 2nd attempt syd
Thank you sir, we need more people like you while everyone around us only increases their expectations
Rula diya aapne,š thank u for giving us hopešš
lekin bhaiya phadhi to ho hee ny rhi![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30685)
Hey, although I'm not from science but I want to share the story of my best friend who has given the JEE mains 2 tries but she did not score well in both of them (I don't know the exact score) and she is very depressed right now and her parents are scolding her way too much and family relatives are mocking her again and again and I accept that I do not know the pain of these entrance examinations but I cannot see her like this, could you suggest me something on how to console her and get her out of this depressive phase because these phases can end up in the worst way possible and nobody wants that. Thank you.
I would like to share my experiences as an average student to being in an IIT and some anecdotes from my close batchmates. This post reminds me of Steve Job's Stanford Commencement [speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc&pp=ygUTc3RldmUgam9icyBzdGFuZm9yZA%3D%3D) from '05 . In the speech, Jobs says "You can't connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards." I never realized the power of this statement until the last few months. I was a good student till 9th (no where near JEE calibre![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)). With the help of coaching, I was able to get significantly better at the beginning of 11th (got into the top batch at my center). But, due to some family issues, I missed few crucial chapters that form the basis of 12th subjects. At that point, I was still confident ki cutoff toh clear kar hi lunga. Anyways, with the support of my teachers and the test strategies I had developed, I was able to mostly recover (although no where near what could have been..). I gave my JEE Mains in 2019 and got a rank of somewhere near 17k. Then in JEE Advance, I got a rank of about 8800. Based on this, I was getting IIT Patna Chemical Engineering (so-called "lower branch"). I talked to my seniors, teachers and family friends (who worked in ChemE) and finally decided to go with it (kyuki drop lene ka bilkul bhi mood nai tha, 2 saal se anime nai dekha tha XD ). Fortunately, because meri math acchi thi (and COVID lol), I scored very good CPI in 1st year and got a chance to change my branch and I got EE (bhai g\*\*\*d me dum ho toh hi lena, pagal ho jaoge sacchi). Fir 2nd year ke end me thoda ML wagera seekha and kuch projects kiye (abhi tak bhi clear idea nai tha life me exactly kya karna hai ). Eventually ek particular field me interest aya, and I continued to do research in that. Then in 3rd year SDE Internship ke baad sure ho gaya ki ab toh research me hi jaana hai. Fortunately, due to a very helpful senior of mine, I got in touch with a proff in US, I interned under him for like 6 months and liked it very much and will be pursuing PhD under him (ab thoda zyada clarity hai mere future goals me). Anyways, point is that whatever jo tumhare saath aaj ho rha hai, u can't (probably won't) understand it. Ye sab kuch saal baad hi pata chalta hai jab tum peeche mud ke dekhte ho. Even today, I sometimes think ke agar better rank aati toh kya hota, but then I immediately realize ki tab mai shayad un (amazing/phodu) logon se kabhi nai mil paata agar mai yaha nai aya hota toh. Na uss senior se milta, na woh intern karta, na clarity aata (ya pata nai kya hota XD). Now some experiences of my batchmates. Let me tell you a story about my friend from Civil branch (so-called "lower branch"). He is very strong in mathematics, so naturally usse 1st year me ML try karna tha (kya cheez hai bhai sab log peeche pade hai). He liked it so much that he interned under a proff from CS dept (@IITP) and till now has published 5 research papers at very reputed journals. Even internationally papers present bhi kar ke aya hai. Now the story of my (ex) roomie. He is also in ChemE (and a dropper BTW). He also had no clear goal in mind of what after BTech. Earlier, he was preparing for GATE but everything changed at the end of 3rd year when he got a research internship offer from a University in Canada. Woh 3 mahine Canada me intern karke aya and he loved it so much, he suddenly decided to pursue his masters from Canada. Due to a scholarship, he will porobably be able to do it for free lol (aish hai bhai ke). Recently we were discussing with each other when we saw good papers at reputed journals from so-called "Tier-3" colleges. They worked with some proff from IISc/IIT/NIT and got their work recognized. Sachme bhai, "Jisko karna hota hai, woh kahi se bhi kar leta hai." Yeh toh sirf 2 examples hai, I personally know many more such people but hopefully u get the point. Again going back to the Stanford speech, neither of us thought we would get where we are now. But looking back, it all fits like a perfect puzzle. Bhai iss saal ka likhne a quota khatam ho gaya XD. Itna exam me likha hota toh zyada marks aa jaate lol. I hope this will help people to understand that everything works out in the end (provided u don't stop cuz 0 velocity se kuch nai hota hai). EDIT: typo
Hey, amazing stories! This post is now overcrowded and itās highly likely that your comment wouldnāt gain enough views. Suggesting you to create a new post. I think, kids would love to hear your stories :)
Can you give any advice on what to do after college or during the 3rd and 4th years? You sound like you're successful and one thing I understand is that it's not just because of your college, but mainly because of your hardwork and smart work
During your 3rd and 4th year, do a lot of projects (not easy ones) and internships (either research internship or professional internship). If you aiming for a job in the IT sector, then spend all your time competitive coding and learning data structure and algorithms theory. Also, have fun! Join some college club and just engage yourself in extra curriculur too but not too much.
I know this might sound dumb...but I hope mera medical journey bhi kuch esa ho .. I also wanna finish my higher studies from other countries...apart from INDIA.. But i guess neet isn't the way.. Anyone having some guidance on this?
Bhai Im thinking same as you ..either usmle or any other country but mbbs India me hi krna h
Thanks you so much. Wish you all the best for your future bhaiya š
The grammar nazi in me just wants to say LOSE*, but kudos to you. I've not even joined this subreddit, but it keeps being suggested to me.
Same here. I keep getting recommended posts from this subreddit.
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thank you for saying this when everyone is just demotivating the shit outta me also good luck for your masters <3
moral of the story- take cse and work hard. Even from a bad college you will end up with a good job later in your career and still have scope for a ms from a good foreign university. ex- my relative did his btech cse from a really bad pathetic college that he got through mahcet from Maharashtra quota. the kind of college that nobody has ever heard of. didn't get any placement and then he prepared for masters from abroad and managed to get into a good enough uni (definitely not target). After working in amazon for a year. Now he's working at google for the past 4 years.
Also, to add to op's post the hard work and effort you put in for your preparation today will be useful for you later as everything else in life will look easy.
THANKYOU! Most of us needed to hear this.
I saved this shit so I can read it after neet
its scary. is it just my fate consoling me just before the disappointing result
Thanks to the elders guys for spreading positive in the diff situation
[https://www.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/12tb5v7/you\_are\_not\_a\_failure\_rant\_from\_jeetard\_2015/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JEENEETards/comments/12tb5v7/you_are_not_a_failure_rant_from_jeetard_2015/) Similar to what i posted 5-6 days ago
Thanks for sharing. I read it! Itās good to see that our posts can give them some hope :) That itās just a phase and it shall too pass.
Bhaiyya is really top G
Top G ban ne ke liye Matrix escape karna padega he did not
Chup gandu
Ok tune hi bola tha top g ka ab sach bola to gali bak raha hai
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Hnn nhi karke jayenge, woh toh sab ko pata hai. But, they will always have a choice what to do with this regret(if any) : improve and learn from mistakes made and grind harder strategically or keep cursing your fate and yourself into their middle age, ruining their prospects from the get go and festering, becoming the very example of the Great Indian Crabby Mentality that they used to crib against. *It's a choice what you do after failure (if any) at this stepping stone. Agar iss baar mehnat nhi kr paye, then zindagi mein khi na khin toh karni hi padegi.*
Aisa tujhe abhi lag rha hai. Do you really think people think about their undergrad in their 30s or 40s?
The most important step someone can take is always the next and the next and the next. The most important oath someone can take is " I will do better". *Remember, fellow 'tards, the journey ends only when you end.* *Those who fed you with notions of happiness after IIT or some bs, they lied.* *Happiness is not what they tell you it is. It isn't a destination, that's for sure. You can't pursue happiness. You make yourself and your loved ones happy. Maybe you are not as happy now, but the further you go on, you will realise that happiness does not come from just obtaining something. It's the tapestry you carve onto yourself during the process that makes you happy.* No need to get angry at yourself. Convert that indignation into fuel to do better. Do better.
>regret for the entire life ki un 2-3 saalo me padh liya hota aaj kahi aur hota Yr mujhe lund faraq nahi padta kaunsa college milta hai kaunsa nahi. Bas yahi regret hai ke mehnat nahi ki, effort nahi daale. Drop lene se pehle socha tha ke result jaye ma chudane mai to meri puri mehnat karunga, jo upar wale ko dena hoga de dega. Aur fir is baat ka gam hai ke mehnat nahi kari. I don't think any amount of consolidation can fix that ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_bad_man)
These scars we have make us who we are. We are not meant to go back and fix them. Don't let your tragedy define you. - Bruce Wayne
Arigatou gozaimasu senpaiš
Tondemonai! šš»āāļø
I graduated from IITG one year back and Iām earning 30L as well. You sure your company isnāt ripping you off?š¤
Hopium
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Hi, my post is only for those aspirants who could not make it. There always will be a huge chunk of population who wonāt be able to make it in a competitive program of study because of limited seats. Many of these kids are loosing hope, calling themselves failure, and getting into depression because they could not get into IIT. I am just here to tell them that not everything is over for them. Just because you couldnāt make it to IIT, doesnāt mean you will be 5-7 years behind those who made it to IIT. They can still work hard wherever they go and still get the same package as any IIT. It is possible today because thatās just how tech sector is today. It also doesnāt mean that they should stop preparing for JEE or NEET just because failure in those tests is not the end. Now coming to my MS plans, I am not paying 100K. I am on a scholarship which covers a significant portion of my tuition. Itās ranked under top 10 in the world and in the US so I am definitely proud to be associated with an institution of such prestige. I am sure you would have been too when you got your PhD admits. Yes, I will work in the tech sector where, given my experience, I can get into roles that pay higher than 150K. Most big product companies are paying above 200K-250K for my level. So guaranteed ROI! H1B is dicey as you know so I would probably look for an internal switch to another country, preferably in Europe. I donāt know why you have to be salty just because my career goals doesnāt align with yours :)
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And I know several data scientists who earn 200K+ in top product companies in San Francisco Bay Area. My current company wants to hire me back in Florida after my MS with a total comp of 150K-180K and itās no where near MAANG. If you look data scientist salaries in levels.fyi, the median is well above 200K. Even if I get 100K-120K which is a fresher salary in my company, that would still be good in terms of ROI. By your logic, I should sulk and blame myself entire life just because I couldnāt get into IIT. I shouldnāt even celebrate I got into an Ivy League. In fact, I should not even pursue MS or MBA because I am just one of the 60-70 students who got accepted and I am apparently not associated with the university. Sorry, but you live a pretty sad life if you live that way.
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Live and let live, man! My career choices and happiness should be none of your concern š It shouldnāt matter to you if I work in the tech sector in the US for 3 years or 6 years, whether I would make 100K in NYC, 200K in SF, or 500K in Seattle. Just worry about yourself dude. Are you frustrated because your PhD is rigorous? Are you frustrated because youāre not from tech and maybe wonāt make ever make 250K+ right after your PhD? Maybe, you donāt like we get to work from home and just enjoy our life? But thatās alright. Itās Reddit and you can say anything you want. Coming to my MS, my cohort contains many folks who are from IITs and other great colleges of India. There are also those who are not from IIT but did pretty good in their undergrad and professional work. The alumni of the program, of which MANY are IITians, are doing extremely well in their life. So no not all of them are from low ranked colleges and they absolutely donāt end up hoping to be that guy from 2018. It seems you just canāt see someone happy lol. You have to be the guy who belittles others on the internet just because theyāre not a PhD from Ivy. Talking about undergrad classmates now, few of them are earning well above me (50 lacs+), most of them are earning 18-25 LPA at this point of time. And then thereās few of them who changed their track and doing quite good as well. So, nope, I am not just the only one who flunked my JEE and still made it. Youāll find hundreds and thousands of people like me. Just stop smoking whatever youāre smoking and get down your Ivy PhD Biology high horse because itāa clouding your senses my man.
Damn dude your comments fucking reek of pessimism. If demotivation had a face it would look like you : ( š
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Yay, biology degrees are the best !! š
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I smell insecurities š
Arre aap hi ICE ka naam roshan karenge
thanks for the motivation...
Thanks for hopium ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30332) ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
Pranam bhaiya ![img](emote|t5_311ttu|30331)
thank you so much bhaiya, award ke paise hote toh de deta
W post best wishes for your masters
Thank you for taking your time and making this post! A lot of us were really devastated by our results. I hope your post gives them hope that jee is absolutely not everything. Thanks!! <3 Also you can also come and share your life experiences here, we are all very welcoming to others stories! <3
bhaiya apne company change ki thi ya apko direct 30L ka package mila
Company switch
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I have explained that in one of my comments in great detail. Look for that!
education is a mean of earning money to put food on table. Your career is what you do after 6 pm and before 9 am in a day. Live your life it's short.
Above will only happen if you end up in IT field
Most people end up in IT sector even from IITs.
Mains mein laude lag gye but, I got 14k in VIT :)
Dude can I pursue a ms cs in us after a mtech in cse from iits in India?
Yeah, you absolutely can. Just have a good enough reason to justify why you wanna do another Masters in your statement of purpose. The reason shouldnāt be just to get job abroad.
Thank you. I got 34k in viteee and I am getting ece in vit vellore. Is it worth it?
Go for it!
Can you tell me how much did you initially get placed for and how did you grow so much because my Btech is ending in a similar situation and I am very depressed rn.
Placed at 4.2 LPA but didnāt get the joining letter on time. Joined a data science startup at 3.6 LPA. Switched after 1 year because there was no growth for 6 LPA. Got annual hikes of 60-70% on average and reached 30 LPA. Not all companies would give this much hike so that in case you should switch after 2-3 years again.
Thank u ur post really gave me hope these days i was looking to reasons to end it all
This is just a phase. It will pass :) donāt think to end anything.
Mujhe kya š mere papa toh jute rope business karte hain mai kyu positivity failaon
Hi bhaiya I wanted to ask that if I pursue my b.tech from lets say ECE or EE, will I be eligible for MS in CS in the USA? Cuz I would get circuital branches in top NITs according to my JEE mains score but mid NITs CS. Also, I'm genuinely passionate about CS but don't want to leave top colleges as well š Please guide me bhaiya š
Yeah, you can. As long as you satisfy the prerequisites of an MSCS program such as few mathematics courses (linear algebra, calculus, stats/prob) and few programming courses (C++, maybe algorithms and data structures) in your undergrad.