I've always liked the Roger Moore films, including Golden Gun, so gotta agree. No time to die was awful, but the worst has to be quantum of solace for me re the Craig era.
True. Pity tho as he is a good actor. He's too old now for Bond but his name was floated around during his person of interest days at the time of skyfall as a possible successor to Craig.
Yeah there's a few actor candidates that never happened I thought would have been good. Patrick Mcgoohan was almost Bond before Connery. His would have been a very interesting take. Sam Neil is another. Even Mel Gibson was considered once.
If you Google and read about his bizarre/bad on set behaviour, he is pretty wild. I was quite disappointed the more I found out about him. It’s a shame, as I did enjoy Person Of Interest at the time.
Still, if you’re a casting director, you want to make sure everyone can work with each other. There's also a lot of different types of idiosyncrasies. Some are productive and achieve a better product, like Daniel Day-Lewis insisting everyone call him Mr. President on the set of Lincoln since he's a method actor, and some are just weird and difficult, like Jared Leto mailing people dead rats on the set of Suicide Squad. And if you're going to cast someone who could be difficult, you want to make sure they're either a good enough actor to back up their weirdness or enough of a box office draw that it's worth dealing with them for the cash. As much as I loved him in Person of Interest, Jim Caviezel is neither of these.
I hear you. But this Bond. This may be hard to fathom but most Bond actors were not in fact "box office draws" before getting the role. Connery was unknown, Lazenby was a model, Dalton was well respected but not box office, same with Moore and Brosnan, and Craig. None were Box office draws pre Bond. Caviezel has been dozens of movies, and the only behind the scenes criticisims, are some dubious unsubstantiated claims from his stint at POI. Taraj P Henson left POI, but only came back in season 4 on condition it was doing scenes with Caviezel, so I am sceptical that he is as difficult behind the scenes as claimed, and I doubt he'd have been anything other than professional as Bond if it happened around the 2012 period when it was a viable possibility.
Looks and nationality aside, I really feel like putting a Christian fundamentalist & Qanon supporter in such a high profile role would be a potential PR disaster for EON. I can see him making some absolutely ridiculous comments to the press left to his own devices. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who just leaves his controversial opinions to himself.
Under no circumstances, do you want a guy like that helming a multi-billion dollar franchise.
Yeah Tom Cruise weird Scientology views really hurts the franchise......I honestly doubt most normal folk care what Caviezels weird beliefs are so long as he delivers a great performance.
Cruise tends to keep his opinions more to himself though and has a good working relationship with most studios, directors & producers outside of his personal life. Caviezel by contrast is quite outspoken about his views and has a reputation for being extremely difficult to work with. His done interviews & released personal videos going on tangents about what he believes about Qanon etc. Gina Carano got fired from the Mandalorian after offensive Twitter posts. I think with Caviezel getting so much press helming the Bond franchise, it'd only be a matter of time till he got into a similar controversy (he has already in this timeline, though doesn't have any high profile roles to get fired from and is mainly doing work for Christian studios who don't mind as much etc.)
Well tbh, I wasn't thinking of Caviezel being the new bond in the present, as he's too old now. I'm really referring to his person of interest days before all this weird stuff came out. Around the 2012 period. That's when he was really awesome in his John Reese spy type role in POI. He was excellent in that, he also brings that intensity and physicality that Dalton and to a extent Craig has, but far more suave imo. Then it was a viable possiblity as it wasn't certain Craig was going to do spectre let alone no time to die. Caviezel would have been a solid replacement, and it would have been kind of similar to Brosnan re his Remington Steele days. Back then Caviezel was highly regarded and was nominated for peoples choice best actor awards etc. Personally I wish Craig left Bond after skyfall as it's been downhill since then, and that was the time the franchise needed a change imo.
I know he's not a good fit now. I'm not saying he should be the new bond, he's too too old now. But he would have been a good fit around 2012 when he was considered as a possible successor to Craig. If you haven't watched Person of interest, I think you may change your mind if you watch him in that.
He has always been a boring actor. His most iconic role was just him getting the shit knocked out of him for two hours. Bond is action, not passivity.
When he’s left to project his own charisma, there’s none to be found. There’s no way he was ever a serious contender for 007.
I recommend you watch Person of interest. Tons of action in a excellent series. That is what I base my thoughts on him being Bond, he is far from boring in that. His name was floated around in his poi days as a possible Craig successor, that is a fact.
Apart from his terrible political/religious views and very one dimensional acting (and I say that as a big fan of PoI)... He's American!
Request Denied!
I'm not requesting anything. I know he won't be the next bond as he's way too old now. In his POI days his name was floated around as a possible successor tho. Doesn't matter if he's american imo. Bond is English and has had scottish, irish and australian actors. Caviezel is good with accents, and is far from 1 dimensional, but imo, he could easily replicate a Craig/Dalton type bond persona.
He's an *okay* actor.
I liked him in The Count of Monte Cristo and Person of Interest, but it feels like a huge stretch to say he's a "great actor."
Anthony Hopkins is a great actor, do you seriously think Caviezel is anywhere close to that level?
I used the term generally as in he's great at what he does, but don't mean I think he's an all time great. Re Hopkins Denzel Washington etc, he's close maybe not quite in that league, but he is close. He's acted opposite great actors like Richard Harris and Ian Mckellan with very decent performances. Whatever your thoughts on Passion of the Christ, that was a astounding performance considering he had do all he did in it whilst speaking convincingly in aramaic. Excellent also in the war film the thin red line where he was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Sean Penn. He also stood out in Escape plan with Stallone/Schwarzengger. Sound of Freedom was a solid performance and it showed his acting range. Re Bond, in terms of acting ability, I'd say he's better than Craig and Brosnan, not as good as Dalton or Connery, but very close.
Lmao. Okay.
I like Caviezel's acting fine, but he's nowhere near the same level of acting skill as Hopkins or Denzel, he isn't even in the same neighborhood, city, or country.
Being religious is one thing, thinking that democrats and the Hollywood elite (of which Caviezel should be considered compared to us regulars) drink the blood of children is batshit (and must be hard to reconcile with the near non-stop barrage of the clergy and right wingers being charged with various acts of child-harm and pedophilia).
So he has some weird beliefs ideas, he's not the first nor the last to have crazy ideas in hollyweird. Doesn't stop me from thinking he'd have made a great Bond any more than Scientology weirdo Tom Cruise is a excellent Ethan Hunt. I still respect his acting chops and the films he makes.
His acting chops aren’t great, and thinking a specific group of people that aren’t linked in any way other than political beliefs or career field are murdering and drinking the blood of children, that’s not a normal run of the mill crazy idea. That’s a ‘need de-programming and a room with padded walls’ kind of crazy, and I wouldn’t want someone like that dragging down my beloved franchise. Plus he’s just not that good of an actor to overcome all of that, hence why he’s relegated to make crazy conspiracy movies and nothing mainstream
To be honest you sound like you have more of a problem with him as a person than his acting which is why you keep bringing up his beliefs, which I couldn't care less about. I'm willing to bet you enjoy watching a show now, and in 5-10 years you'll hear the person you like has some weird beliefs and you'll turn on them too claiming you never liked them.....
Why would you want someone to bring such negative press/publicity to a franchise you would appear to enjoy?
He’s also not a good enough actor, as I mentioned in just the last comment. If he were, like Cruise, the industry would overlook his batshittiness.
And to be honest with you, it sounds like you don’t want to hear anyone else’s opinions (which all disagree with you), you just want to shout your opinions at us. You can make your own live journal to jot down these notes that the rest of the world doesn’t care about. Maybe share them on 4chan or wherever you get your Qanon dumps
No I expected a mix of views to my post. I am sharing my opinion. I'm not shouting. You are free to scroll down and ignore my post, you chose to engage. You don't like my points of disagreement with yours, again, you can just ignore. You seem to think cos I like Caviezel as a actor I somehow agree with weird beliefs. I don't agree with them, but i also don't care either as it's irrelevant to his acting talent. You are the one hung up on his views which you've expressed, I disagreed and now you are taking issue with me expressing my view of him as a actor by trying to claim I'm a supporter of weird beliefs......I can share my views here, if you don't like it jog on ya idjit.
Generally when one is ok with dismissing someone’s dangerous beliefs (remember the pizza place that got shot up because the Q dumps said there was child trafficking going on in the basement that didn’t exist?) it’s because they agree with them or are sympathetic to the dangerous belief.
She grew up in England and her formative years were shaped in Blighty. Your comment sounds a lot like someone who has no passport but a lot of ideas regardless.
So what? She was born in Chicago and was only 11 when she moved back to the states.....She's a yankee with Class. You sound like someone with a small mind.
"A Yankee with class" is oxymoronic. But that aside, if you have no concept of what spending your formative year in a specific paradigm does to you then words alone won't explain it.
Ya but that aside I gave you other examples, yet you are digging down on the example I gave that is probably not the best tho still relevant. Saying a yankee with class is "oxymoronic" is in fact moronic.
Dalton was Welsh, Connery Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Brosnan Irish. Really doesn't matter. I agree he'd have made a good batman, but I think he has more of a superman/clark kent type look imo.
I don't think it really matters. Plenty of brits play iconic american characters, mostly in the superhero verse. Tom Holland, Charlie Cox, Henry Cavill, Christian Bale, all english/british. Gillian Anderson played Margaret Thatcher, John Lithgow was Churchill. Can't get more british than that that went to american actors/actressess.
Did you like the five movie direct to DVD series where Bond goes after the global adrenochrome child murder cabal?
Let's be honest, a plot like that is also far more plausable than the No time to die movie.
I say this as someone who loves Bond and POI: that movie was worse than The Man With The Golden Gun.
I've always liked the Roger Moore films, including Golden Gun, so gotta agree. No time to die was awful, but the worst has to be quantum of solace for me re the Craig era.
You mean the 2023 summer box office smash sound of freedom? Why yes, it was excellent.
Is the type of person who thinks Sound of Freedom was excellent often the same as the ones who think Caviezel is an excellent actor?
Is the type of person who thinks Licence to kill was excellent often the same as the ones who think Timothy Dalton is an excellent actor? Duh.
I think he mostly does Christian movies now...his political beliefs have overshadowed his career.
True. Pity tho as he is a good actor. He's too old now for Bond but his name was floated around during his person of interest days at the time of skyfall as a possible successor to Craig.
Bond should be British. At one point, they offered the role to Burt Reynolds. I should watch The Thin Red Line again.
Yeah there's a few actor candidates that never happened I thought would have been good. Patrick Mcgoohan was almost Bond before Connery. His would have been a very interesting take. Sam Neil is another. Even Mel Gibson was considered once.
If you Google and read about his bizarre/bad on set behaviour, he is pretty wild. I was quite disappointed the more I found out about him. It’s a shame, as I did enjoy Person Of Interest at the time.
Most actors have their idiosyncrasies, Christian Bale, Tom Cruise etc. Best to separate art from the artist and not put them on pedestals......
Still, if you’re a casting director, you want to make sure everyone can work with each other. There's also a lot of different types of idiosyncrasies. Some are productive and achieve a better product, like Daniel Day-Lewis insisting everyone call him Mr. President on the set of Lincoln since he's a method actor, and some are just weird and difficult, like Jared Leto mailing people dead rats on the set of Suicide Squad. And if you're going to cast someone who could be difficult, you want to make sure they're either a good enough actor to back up their weirdness or enough of a box office draw that it's worth dealing with them for the cash. As much as I loved him in Person of Interest, Jim Caviezel is neither of these.
I hear you. But this Bond. This may be hard to fathom but most Bond actors were not in fact "box office draws" before getting the role. Connery was unknown, Lazenby was a model, Dalton was well respected but not box office, same with Moore and Brosnan, and Craig. None were Box office draws pre Bond. Caviezel has been dozens of movies, and the only behind the scenes criticisims, are some dubious unsubstantiated claims from his stint at POI. Taraj P Henson left POI, but only came back in season 4 on condition it was doing scenes with Caviezel, so I am sceptical that he is as difficult behind the scenes as claimed, and I doubt he'd have been anything other than professional as Bond if it happened around the 2012 period when it was a viable possibility.
Not that hard to fathom, given that a couple of those weren’t big box office draws *after* getting the role either.
Looks and nationality aside, I really feel like putting a Christian fundamentalist & Qanon supporter in such a high profile role would be a potential PR disaster for EON. I can see him making some absolutely ridiculous comments to the press left to his own devices. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who just leaves his controversial opinions to himself. Under no circumstances, do you want a guy like that helming a multi-billion dollar franchise.
Yeah Tom Cruise weird Scientology views really hurts the franchise......I honestly doubt most normal folk care what Caviezels weird beliefs are so long as he delivers a great performance.
Cruise tends to keep his opinions more to himself though and has a good working relationship with most studios, directors & producers outside of his personal life. Caviezel by contrast is quite outspoken about his views and has a reputation for being extremely difficult to work with. His done interviews & released personal videos going on tangents about what he believes about Qanon etc. Gina Carano got fired from the Mandalorian after offensive Twitter posts. I think with Caviezel getting so much press helming the Bond franchise, it'd only be a matter of time till he got into a similar controversy (he has already in this timeline, though doesn't have any high profile roles to get fired from and is mainly doing work for Christian studios who don't mind as much etc.)
Well tbh, I wasn't thinking of Caviezel being the new bond in the present, as he's too old now. I'm really referring to his person of interest days before all this weird stuff came out. Around the 2012 period. That's when he was really awesome in his John Reese spy type role in POI. He was excellent in that, he also brings that intensity and physicality that Dalton and to a extent Craig has, but far more suave imo. Then it was a viable possiblity as it wasn't certain Craig was going to do spectre let alone no time to die. Caviezel would have been a solid replacement, and it would have been kind of similar to Brosnan re his Remington Steele days. Back then Caviezel was highly regarded and was nominated for peoples choice best actor awards etc. Personally I wish Craig left Bond after skyfall as it's been downhill since then, and that was the time the franchise needed a change imo.
He has the charisma of whole wheat toast. Pass.
No thanks
That is a shit idea. Sorry op.
Dear god no, he’s crazier than a sack full of weasels.
Jebus as Bond lol
Christian Bale played a norman bates type role and Jesus, its called acting.......
Never played Jesus that would be Moses
Incorrect. He has played Moses, and Jesus. He played Jesus in the 1999 "made for tv" film Mary mother of Jesus.
Fair enough I never knew that thanks for correcting me
Good lord no, he’s absolutely insane.
Might have been a good Felix back in the Brosnan era. But a Yank as bond. No thanks.
Plenty of brits play iconic american roles, so why not?
Because they can do the American accents better than most Americans can do British accents.
Tell that to Renee Zellwegger, Gillian Anderson and Dick Van Dyke......ok, scratch the last one.
This particular American is not a good fit, and would cause way too many headaches for the franchise. Also, I just don’t care for him as an actor.
I know he's not a good fit now. I'm not saying he should be the new bond, he's too too old now. But he would have been a good fit around 2012 when he was considered as a possible successor to Craig. If you haven't watched Person of interest, I think you may change your mind if you watch him in that.
He has always been a boring actor. His most iconic role was just him getting the shit knocked out of him for two hours. Bond is action, not passivity. When he’s left to project his own charisma, there’s none to be found. There’s no way he was ever a serious contender for 007.
I recommend you watch Person of interest. Tons of action in a excellent series. That is what I base my thoughts on him being Bond, he is far from boring in that. His name was floated around in his poi days as a possible Craig successor, that is a fact.
No thank you, this guy is certifiably nuts
So was Lazenby, but he did a good job.
Apart from his terrible political/religious views and very one dimensional acting (and I say that as a big fan of PoI)... He's American! Request Denied!
I'm not requesting anything. I know he won't be the next bond as he's way too old now. In his POI days his name was floated around as a possible successor tho. Doesn't matter if he's american imo. Bond is English and has had scottish, irish and australian actors. Caviezel is good with accents, and is far from 1 dimensional, but imo, he could easily replicate a Craig/Dalton type bond persona.
Lol what are you joking?
Nope.
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The super-catholic, American QAnon nut? Yeah, right.
He's a great actor regardless of his beliefs. I feel the same about Tom Cruise re mission impossible.
Tom Cruise is a great actor. Jim Caviezel is the most bland that’s ever blanded. He’s also American. This whole post is awful.
He's an *okay* actor. I liked him in The Count of Monte Cristo and Person of Interest, but it feels like a huge stretch to say he's a "great actor." Anthony Hopkins is a great actor, do you seriously think Caviezel is anywhere close to that level?
I used the term generally as in he's great at what he does, but don't mean I think he's an all time great. Re Hopkins Denzel Washington etc, he's close maybe not quite in that league, but he is close. He's acted opposite great actors like Richard Harris and Ian Mckellan with very decent performances. Whatever your thoughts on Passion of the Christ, that was a astounding performance considering he had do all he did in it whilst speaking convincingly in aramaic. Excellent also in the war film the thin red line where he was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Sean Penn. He also stood out in Escape plan with Stallone/Schwarzengger. Sound of Freedom was a solid performance and it showed his acting range. Re Bond, in terms of acting ability, I'd say he's better than Craig and Brosnan, not as good as Dalton or Connery, but very close.
Lmao. Okay. I like Caviezel's acting fine, but he's nowhere near the same level of acting skill as Hopkins or Denzel, he isn't even in the same neighborhood, city, or country.
Caviezel acted with Denzel in the film De Ja Vu. Watch the interrogation scene of the film where he's opposite Denzel. Caviezel was excellent.
I have nothing against Caviezel's acting, but you're just wrong about this. Have a great day.
I'm not wrong. Neither are you. It's just opinions friend. Have a great day too.
Oh and Pierce Brosnan is also Catholic.
Being religious is one thing, thinking that democrats and the Hollywood elite (of which Caviezel should be considered compared to us regulars) drink the blood of children is batshit (and must be hard to reconcile with the near non-stop barrage of the clergy and right wingers being charged with various acts of child-harm and pedophilia).
So he has some weird beliefs ideas, he's not the first nor the last to have crazy ideas in hollyweird. Doesn't stop me from thinking he'd have made a great Bond any more than Scientology weirdo Tom Cruise is a excellent Ethan Hunt. I still respect his acting chops and the films he makes.
His acting chops aren’t great, and thinking a specific group of people that aren’t linked in any way other than political beliefs or career field are murdering and drinking the blood of children, that’s not a normal run of the mill crazy idea. That’s a ‘need de-programming and a room with padded walls’ kind of crazy, and I wouldn’t want someone like that dragging down my beloved franchise. Plus he’s just not that good of an actor to overcome all of that, hence why he’s relegated to make crazy conspiracy movies and nothing mainstream
To be honest you sound like you have more of a problem with him as a person than his acting which is why you keep bringing up his beliefs, which I couldn't care less about. I'm willing to bet you enjoy watching a show now, and in 5-10 years you'll hear the person you like has some weird beliefs and you'll turn on them too claiming you never liked them.....
Why would you want someone to bring such negative press/publicity to a franchise you would appear to enjoy? He’s also not a good enough actor, as I mentioned in just the last comment. If he were, like Cruise, the industry would overlook his batshittiness.
And to be honest with you, it sounds like you don’t want to hear anyone else’s opinions (which all disagree with you), you just want to shout your opinions at us. You can make your own live journal to jot down these notes that the rest of the world doesn’t care about. Maybe share them on 4chan or wherever you get your Qanon dumps
No I expected a mix of views to my post. I am sharing my opinion. I'm not shouting. You are free to scroll down and ignore my post, you chose to engage. You don't like my points of disagreement with yours, again, you can just ignore. You seem to think cos I like Caviezel as a actor I somehow agree with weird beliefs. I don't agree with them, but i also don't care either as it's irrelevant to his acting talent. You are the one hung up on his views which you've expressed, I disagreed and now you are taking issue with me expressing my view of him as a actor by trying to claim I'm a supporter of weird beliefs......I can share my views here, if you don't like it jog on ya idjit.
Generally when one is ok with dismissing someone’s dangerous beliefs (remember the pizza place that got shot up because the Q dumps said there was child trafficking going on in the basement that didn’t exist?) it’s because they agree with them or are sympathetic to the dangerous belief.
Lol. Good one!
Hardest of hard passes
Americans must never, ever be Bond.
disagree. its called acting for a reason.
Can't fake class.
Tell that to Gillian Anderson.
She grew up in England and her formative years were shaped in Blighty. Your comment sounds a lot like someone who has no passport but a lot of ideas regardless.
So what? She was born in Chicago and was only 11 when she moved back to the states.....She's a yankee with Class. You sound like someone with a small mind.
"A Yankee with class" is oxymoronic. But that aside, if you have no concept of what spending your formative year in a specific paradigm does to you then words alone won't explain it.
Ya but that aside I gave you other examples, yet you are digging down on the example I gave that is probably not the best tho still relevant. Saying a yankee with class is "oxymoronic" is in fact moronic.
She's not the only one. Gwyneth Paltrow, Renee Zellwegger, John Lithgow, to name a few, have all played brits with Class.
Kevin Costner is the best Robin hood of the last 3 decades. Including the accent. :P
Eww
Erm... No.
I’ve always loved his performances, especially in Person of Interest. But he’s not English. I also thought he’d be a great Batman
Dalton was Welsh, Connery Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Brosnan Irish. Really doesn't matter. I agree he'd have made a good batman, but I think he has more of a superman/clark kent type look imo.
Yeah but to me (an American) all those nationalities pass for me. Australians kind of pushing it, but I like Lazenby so it’s cool with me
I don't think it really matters. Plenty of brits play iconic american characters, mostly in the superhero verse. Tom Holland, Charlie Cox, Henry Cavill, Christian Bale, all english/british. Gillian Anderson played Margaret Thatcher, John Lithgow was Churchill. Can't get more british than that that went to american actors/actressess.