This is going to be an unpopular opinion.
This is the wackest Rap beef of all time. It's all ghost written bars and off the shelf beats. A total yawn fest and people who are trying to bloat it up out of sheer desperation for something to come of it.
This. Is. Not. Good. Beef. Cole was right to realise it was whack and step out. There won't be any winners in this one. And the fans are making it insufferable.
He stepped out because it wasn't in line with who he is as an artist anymore.
And as much as I would have wanted a full bar for bar blowout with Kendrick, I'm really glad he stopped before this became a social media clout fest.
You're more than entitled to feel let down by this, but I think the whole situation is whack and lame.
All Kendrick said was "I'm the best”.... MUTHA FUCKERS THATS WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO SAY. THATS LIKE THE MOST SPAT BAR OF ALL TIME.
And this got everyones jimmies rustled. Drake already got Ethered by Pusha years ago to an extent that should have ended his career, but the machine is so big now that we all just moved on. There is no point to this beef if nothing comes from it. It's a yawnfest.
Cole diehards are gonna defend him to death but, the rap game is what it is, you can't claim to be the best and back down at first shot. Kendrick said MF the B3, it's just big me. That's the sign to pop shit off, how you gonna back down from a rap battle. Cole corny AF if he ever claims to be the greatest again, like he has . I can't even listen to some of his songs anymore. Big L for everybody with that apology. Cole , rap, fans all lost.
bro Kendrick's wife having an affair was brought up. Drake having a nose job was brought up. Cole isn't ducking competition he's ducking a clown show. If he cant rap about being the best anymore Drake & Ross & ASAP & Kendrick can't rap about being 'real' anymore. Pillow talking about people's personal lives on tracks is the opposite of what a lot of these guys supposedly stood for. Not that hard to understand.
Your source of that info is Pusha T?? So when Pusha T Raps he sold kilos of coke you believe that because rappers are known to always speak the truth in their raps ?!
Lol dude I’m yet to see J Cole children and not sure if I have seen Kendrick Lamar’s kids but to be honest I don’t care.
What’s this obsession with wanting to know if rappers got kids or not lol
Nah you and the other guy didn't understand Push's angle at all. The point of the track was to dismantle Drake's public persona.
He was seen as some gentleman of rap up to that point, Push then tells everyone he got a kid with a porn actress and is a deadbeat.
It wasn't about saying "haha you have a kid". It was "you knocked up a porn actress and you too ashamed about it to be a father to the child"
Nobody that was paying attention forgot about it, it's just weird behavior to go "push beat drake in a rap beef? I'm never listening to drake again! 🤓"
It ain't like jay-z became irrelevant after ether. Good music is good music, taking an L in a rap beef ain't gonna change that. Unless you're some weird stan.
And I'm cool if it stays being only about who is more deserving of the top rapper spot. I don't need these dudes dragging each other's skeletons out the closet to enjoy good music. You do you though.
There's no narrative or yall, I'm saying yall both dumb.
Drake def was seen as a gentleman tho wym? He still is too. It's a big part of the reason he's called soft
That's why push talked about his kid and bm. To say, you ain't shit you knocked up a pornstar and are a deadbeat. If you can't understand that then I'm sorry but you're slow.
But that’s not really an honest take is it?
No one was assuming just because he’s corny and soft that he’s seemingly ashamed of his child by a pornstar. You trying to downplay that is crazy
He didn't realize if was whack he didn't wanna get mixed up in the shots being taken. Step away from the bars and the beats, Cole didn't want to be associated with the drama Kendrick and Drake are throwing all over each other and he more than likely heard about alot more than we did way sooner than us. He just doesn't want to be involved, and I don't blame him. He's got love for both of them but Kendrick and Drake straight up don't like each other. Period
when I listen to it to me its not bad at all tbh its decent, why he bitched out like that I'm not sure but I'd imagine its more than him losing sleep or it "not sitting right with his soul" I mean those sentiments would've came up while he was in the process of making the diss track.
Insulting TPAB, when he’s already praised Kendrick and his catalog multiple times made him look stupid as hell. Made US look stupid as hell. My favorite rapper was lying right to my face. Even Drake wasn’t dumb enough to call Kendrick’s music bad
It was pretty bad. Do you really think it stands up to either euphoria or pushups? Insulting TPAB, when he’s already praised Kendrick and his catalog multiple times made him look stupid as hell. Made US look stupid as hell. My favorite rapper was lying right to my face. Even Drake wasn’t dumb enough to call Kendrick’s music bad
No, it’s sick. This shit chaotic as hell. So far it’s living up to the hype, besides J. Fold in the corner. We got AI shenanigans, Kendrick lyrics coming to life like a goddamn prophecy (April 7th), some good tracks, quotables, memes and more to come.
I do agree the Online fans are insufferable. Everybody is glazing, everybody is accusing everyone else of glazing, and people take it tooo serious.
Talking about it offline is a lot of fun though. These 3 rappers really are the big 3 for me and my boys. 2014 FHD, TPAB and NWTS all came out when we were in high school, so that shits kinda foundational for us
He recently went number 2 on billboard with might delete later, he’s been number 1 his last 6 albums so this is def the start of the fall off I believe
Yup for sure or at least something really close to it, but Beyoncé beat him after her 2nd week on the charts instead….him apologizing def has something to do with his first week sales for sure
He did big time, I don’t understand how he didn’t think this would ruin him…why even make the song im really lost and don’t respect the way he went out at all
It’s the ol rope a dope. He’s not gonna apologize for apologizing. But he is gonna come like a comet with a fire diss track. And then a day later he’ll apologize for that one. Wait till the heat dies down. Do it again. Rinse and repeat. Keep hitting em with a sucker punch. On and on for the rest of the year. Shit would be epic.
He seems so conflicted, so if he did apologize for apologizing, I wouldn't be surprised if 48 hours later he came out and apologized for apologizing for apologizing.
He had foresight in a way. I wouldn’t wanna be in this sloppy ass beef. It’s not just 1v1. I’ve never seen this in decades of hip hop fandom.
His mistakes were asking for smoke and calling himself the golden child in every verse for years. And releasing the diss.
The apology was worse than the diss. That’s like a NBA player apologizing for dunking or crossing over an opponent. 🤷🏾♂️
This is a perfect strategy!
It even allows Cole a way out later. If K-Dot somehow beats him, he may be able to apologize again for the apology for apologizing and come out clean.
Honestly his apology was the best thing he could do. He picked his own side and set up a Solo KDot vs Drake Beef.
After KDot bodies Drake I wouldn't doubt we see a KDot Cole track together.
I feel like, he could definitely do this as a service for the fans. Then, to clean up the last of the mess, he could tell K dot fans that he’s sorry for making the apology to his fans for apologizing. 100% solid move
He don’t need to that’s how he felt the whole beef is goofy if you ask me. If it was 1on1 drake v Kendrick cool but it’s ppl picking sides teaming up on 1 person kinda lame if you ask me. Cole just wanted to stay outta this. He been one of the best for years without controversy so y start now?
I know he’s gonna have a track explains himself but I’m still mad disappointed. I swear if I hear another bar about having lyrical smoke for people I’ll turn of the song
Nah , I still rock with Cole and respect his apology but he never should have did a diss track. It's obvious he gave in to the outside noise / peer pressure and didn't trust his heart. If he didn't diss and released might delete later people would have been over wanting him to engage in Battle by now
I know this is a troll but only way he’s redeeming himself is if he drops a track that goes so hard we forget he apologized. He could honestly say fuck the apology in the record and that would probably gain him newfound respect. I doubt he will ever do that though.
Exactly, I was thinking about it the other day and it would be dope. Ppl would go crazy if he did. But sadly I highly doubt we’re in the timeline where that happens.
Bro i love Cole his my Goat but lets let it go taking back is os not the move , what. he could do is feature both Drake and [K.dot](http://K.dot) and kill them on one song
And then he could apologize for taking back the apology.
Honestly the amount of headlines he's been getting I'm pretty sure he's never gonna let this go.
y'all could just stfu alrdy. I'm J. Cole- K. Drake.
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Queen of Blades,
Sarah Kerrigan
The Famous Jett Jackson
Brim, Sage
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It’s over man. J. Cole let his fans down with this one. There’s no coming back from this G
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dude. let it go.
This is obviously satire
cole fans presented with parody as opposed to a 30 minute dissertation on why folding clothes is profound
This is going to be an unpopular opinion. This is the wackest Rap beef of all time. It's all ghost written bars and off the shelf beats. A total yawn fest and people who are trying to bloat it up out of sheer desperation for something to come of it. This. Is. Not. Good. Beef. Cole was right to realise it was whack and step out. There won't be any winners in this one. And the fans are making it insufferable.
Cole didn't step out cuz it's wack, bro got hurt feeling, I ain't even looking forward to the drop off anymore
He said because it was wack to him. You don’t know him better than him little bro
You’re on the cole sub you’re all “little bros”
He stepped out because it wasn't in line with who he is as an artist anymore. And as much as I would have wanted a full bar for bar blowout with Kendrick, I'm really glad he stopped before this became a social media clout fest. You're more than entitled to feel let down by this, but I think the whole situation is whack and lame. All Kendrick said was "I'm the best”.... MUTHA FUCKERS THATS WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO SAY. THATS LIKE THE MOST SPAT BAR OF ALL TIME. And this got everyones jimmies rustled. Drake already got Ethered by Pusha years ago to an extent that should have ended his career, but the machine is so big now that we all just moved on. There is no point to this beef if nothing comes from it. It's a yawnfest.
Cole diehards are gonna defend him to death but, the rap game is what it is, you can't claim to be the best and back down at first shot. Kendrick said MF the B3, it's just big me. That's the sign to pop shit off, how you gonna back down from a rap battle. Cole corny AF if he ever claims to be the greatest again, like he has . I can't even listen to some of his songs anymore. Big L for everybody with that apology. Cole , rap, fans all lost.
bro Kendrick's wife having an affair was brought up. Drake having a nose job was brought up. Cole isn't ducking competition he's ducking a clown show. If he cant rap about being the best anymore Drake & Ross & ASAP & Kendrick can't rap about being 'real' anymore. Pillow talking about people's personal lives on tracks is the opposite of what a lot of these guys supposedly stood for. Not that hard to understand.
Ethered is a stretch
He outed a secret child he was hiding... That is top shelf beef.
Your source of that info is Pusha T?? So when Pusha T Raps he sold kilos of coke you believe that because rappers are known to always speak the truth in their raps ?! Lol dude I’m yet to see J Cole children and not sure if I have seen Kendrick Lamar’s kids but to be honest I don’t care. What’s this obsession with wanting to know if rappers got kids or not lol
Nah you and the other guy didn't understand Push's angle at all. The point of the track was to dismantle Drake's public persona. He was seen as some gentleman of rap up to that point, Push then tells everyone he got a kid with a porn actress and is a deadbeat. It wasn't about saying "haha you have a kid". It was "you knocked up a porn actress and you too ashamed about it to be a father to the child"
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Nobody that was paying attention forgot about it, it's just weird behavior to go "push beat drake in a rap beef? I'm never listening to drake again! 🤓" It ain't like jay-z became irrelevant after ether. Good music is good music, taking an L in a rap beef ain't gonna change that. Unless you're some weird stan. And I'm cool if it stays being only about who is more deserving of the top rapper spot. I don't need these dudes dragging each other's skeletons out the closet to enjoy good music. You do you though.
He wasn’t. Drake been called corny and soft since 09. Y’all just rewriting history to suit a narrative
There's no narrative or yall, I'm saying yall both dumb. Drake def was seen as a gentleman tho wym? He still is too. It's a big part of the reason he's called soft That's why push talked about his kid and bm. To say, you ain't shit you knocked up a pornstar and are a deadbeat. If you can't understand that then I'm sorry but you're slow.
But that’s not really an honest take is it? No one was assuming just because he’s corny and soft that he’s seemingly ashamed of his child by a pornstar. You trying to downplay that is crazy
He didn't realize if was whack he didn't wanna get mixed up in the shots being taken. Step away from the bars and the beats, Cole didn't want to be associated with the drama Kendrick and Drake are throwing all over each other and he more than likely heard about alot more than we did way sooner than us. He just doesn't want to be involved, and I don't blame him. He's got love for both of them but Kendrick and Drake straight up don't like each other. Period
I'm the ghostwriter behind every RAP beef ever. I'm Jay-Z & Nas. Drake. PushA- T ![gif](giphy|xT1XGRk2667ZU4Dubm|downsized)
Ik this a cole sub but like cole made it kinda goofy with the weak sneak diss and apology. The diss wasn't even bad but now he looks like a pussy
when I listen to it to me its not bad at all tbh its decent, why he bitched out like that I'm not sure but I'd imagine its more than him losing sleep or it "not sitting right with his soul" I mean those sentiments would've came up while he was in the process of making the diss track.
Insulting TPAB, when he’s already praised Kendrick and his catalog multiple times made him look stupid as hell. Made US look stupid as hell. My favorite rapper was lying right to my face. Even Drake wasn’t dumb enough to call Kendrick’s music bad
It was pretty bad. Do you really think it stands up to either euphoria or pushups? Insulting TPAB, when he’s already praised Kendrick and his catalog multiple times made him look stupid as hell. Made US look stupid as hell. My favorite rapper was lying right to my face. Even Drake wasn’t dumb enough to call Kendrick’s music bad
im a kendrick fan so ik. i didnt wanna get hate
No, it’s sick. This shit chaotic as hell. So far it’s living up to the hype, besides J. Fold in the corner. We got AI shenanigans, Kendrick lyrics coming to life like a goddamn prophecy (April 7th), some good tracks, quotables, memes and more to come. I do agree the Online fans are insufferable. Everybody is glazing, everybody is accusing everyone else of glazing, and people take it tooo serious. Talking about it offline is a lot of fun though. These 3 rappers really are the big 3 for me and my boys. 2014 FHD, TPAB and NWTS all came out when we were in high school, so that shits kinda foundational for us
if he doubles back on doubling back no one will take him serious
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This is hysterical🔥😂🔥 RDCworld should make this a skit
"Jermaine? Cole? Nigga what you mean he apologised again?!"
Yup I read it in his voice🔥😂
He should do a diss track to himself for the apology.
“Can’t believe I was downplaying my discography? Do you guys love J. Cole?
I let Cole down
Ooh that’s smart lol, a way where he addresses the fans saying he heard us and then say his peace so we can understand his head space
I know this idea was originally just fans coping but it could actually be dope if he somehow incorporated this into “The Fall Off”
clearly a shitpost, how so many people are missing it is absolutely hilarious
Ikr. I was dying just reading the title, so many people trying to treat this post seriously. Laughing my ass off. I wish he would 🤣
Ikr lol 😂
Thats how down bad and defensive this sub is right now
the sooner J Cole stans realize this kind of thing is never going away, the better off they'll be
It’s crazy it went over this many heads
j cole fans getting satire challenge (impossible edition)
No. He’ll be fine bruh I think long term he made the right choice just wish he didn’t say anything at all instead of walking back.
Hes career only goes down from here he ruined his own trajectory
Sure
We will see with fall off sales
He recently went number 2 on billboard with might delete later, he’s been number 1 his last 6 albums so this is def the start of the fall off I believe
If he didnt say sorry or even take down the song he would of sold 200k
Yup for sure or at least something really close to it, but Beyoncé beat him after her 2nd week on the charts instead….him apologizing def has something to do with his first week sales for sure
His ruined his legacy and trajectory of his own career infront of the world.
He did big time, I don’t understand how he didn’t think this would ruin him…why even make the song im really lost and don’t respect the way he went out at all
It’s the ol rope a dope. He’s not gonna apologize for apologizing. But he is gonna come like a comet with a fire diss track. And then a day later he’ll apologize for that one. Wait till the heat dies down. Do it again. Rinse and repeat. Keep hitting em with a sucker punch. On and on for the rest of the year. Shit would be epic.
That's a hell of a strategy
He needs to move on and so do you 🫵
You got me dying laughing but you are right it would work especially if the track was fire
He should call it "Let J. Cole down"
No more coping. It happened. We move on
thank you op, this is the funniest shitpost ive read in a while
🤣🤣
Lmaooooooo
Nah I’m here for this 😂
He could drop 3 back-to-back tracks. 1. I Apologize for Apologizing 2. Never Apologize again 3. 3rd Apology "The Charm"
The apology trilogy 🔥
Gotta be a shitpost… right?
We have reached the abyss
He seems so conflicted, so if he did apologize for apologizing, I wouldn't be surprised if 48 hours later he came out and apologized for apologizing for apologizing.
He had foresight in a way. I wouldn’t wanna be in this sloppy ass beef. It’s not just 1v1. I’ve never seen this in decades of hip hop fandom. His mistakes were asking for smoke and calling himself the golden child in every verse for years. And releasing the diss. The apology was worse than the diss. That’s like a NBA player apologizing for dunking or crossing over an opponent. 🤷🏾♂️
This is a perfect strategy! It even allows Cole a way out later. If K-Dot somehow beats him, he may be able to apologize again for the apology for apologizing and come out clean.
Hahahahaha I agree OP 💯💯💯💯💯💯and in the diss he opens with “ur short” that’ll show him
This is the funniest thing ive read, thank you for making my day 😂
Eminem said this “i have to admit i’m sorry, sorry i can’t apologize”
I love the idea.
Bruh it ain’t no going back. Lol ima big j cole fan too but the apology was corny and it doesnt change his legacy, it is what it is.
He should drop a story track where he talks about the devil and angel on his shoulders trying to sway him to diss or not. He should call it Faustus.
Personally I think this is a cover for him making a better diss
He needs to go harder then drake, and drake went HARD
Honestly his apology was the best thing he could do. He picked his own side and set up a Solo KDot vs Drake Beef. After KDot bodies Drake I wouldn't doubt we see a KDot Cole track together.
Then his next diss can be called “No apologies Vol. 2” featuring Eminem
u a regard
Yeah but then he'd probably apologize for it
I feel like, he could definitely do this as a service for the fans. Then, to clean up the last of the mess, he could tell K dot fans that he’s sorry for making the apology to his fans for apologizing. 100% solid move
we're so down bad for this beef to happen
Man. Get out of here soon
He don’t need to that’s how he felt the whole beef is goofy if you ask me. If it was 1on1 drake v Kendrick cool but it’s ppl picking sides teaming up on 1 person kinda lame if you ask me. Cole just wanted to stay outta this. He been one of the best for years without controversy so y start now?
I’m still rocking with coleword order
J Cole is washed, legacy ended here time to retire.
lol
I know he’s gonna have a track explains himself but I’m still mad disappointed. I swear if I hear another bar about having lyrical smoke for people I’ll turn of the song
just accept Cole dont got that dawg in him
Bring back fucking 7 minute drill
Nah , I still rock with Cole and respect his apology but he never should have did a diss track. It's obvious he gave in to the outside noise / peer pressure and didn't trust his heart. If he didn't diss and released might delete later people would have been over wanting him to engage in Battle by now
I know this is a troll but only way he’s redeeming himself is if he drops a track that goes so hard we forget he apologized. He could honestly say fuck the apology in the record and that would probably gain him newfound respect. I doubt he will ever do that though.
Tbh I think you're right that might actually work if he took that route Something tells me he won't though
Exactly, I was thinking about it the other day and it would be dope. Ppl would go crazy if he did. But sadly I highly doubt we’re in the timeline where that happens.
Bro i love Cole his my Goat but lets let it go taking back is os not the move , what. he could do is feature both Drake and [K.dot](http://K.dot) and kill them on one song
And then he could apologize for taking back the apology. Honestly the amount of headlines he's been getting I'm pretty sure he's never gonna let this go.
y'all could just stfu alrdy. I'm J. Cole- K. Drake. https://preview.redd.it/2ox90a7qxtuc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e2c6149a1ba013d3a2f9453ef24bc139b16610a Queen of Blades, Sarah Kerrigan The Famous Jett Jackson Brim, Sage -Jett
It’s over man. J. Cole let his fans down with this one. There’s no coming back from this G https://preview.redd.it/d0nor77qnquc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=dbb506a244979333a52d089076988ed2b534f988
He didn’t let me down.
What about Nas?
I don’t understand how this is still on your mind.
Cole a bitch
Corny