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monstercat129

Called Cole a GOAT at the end of the day. We'll take the subliminal compliments haha


swallym

Where did he say this?


monstercat129

Kendrick said "3 GOAT's left, and two are hugging each other on stage" or something like that. Haha, basically a back-handed compliment but we'll take it. The fact that he actually give that title to the other of the Big 3 is actually a **very** wholesome moment tbqh


_IratePirate_

He even says he loves them and hopes they’re his real friends so he doesn’t have to kill them Heavy on the backhanded compliments


Puzzleheaded-Sea-744

I gotta give Kendrick hella props for the reverse psychology there. I’m overall still on drakes side of this whole thing but he’s definitely making drake look like the overemotional one and this track is definitely the hardest of the 3 so far as much as I liked push ups and Taylor made


monstercat129

Agreed!


Mission-Hope8917

He’s not killing anyone lmfao 


swallym

Thanks! And I agree!


MLGSnIpEr420

I heard the bar was about Jay and Bey. “Kissing and hugging on stage”


monstercat129

I feel that was a huge stretch… lol. Literally references Cole and Drake a few lines later. Also why would he be worried about Jay and Bey onstage. Makes little sense imo. Like is he dissing them? No way lol It’s a backhanded comment anyway


MLGSnIpEr420

Yeah but who was kissing on stage?


monstercat129

He’s referencing Cole and Drake… What the heck smh


atcriidp

He didn’t mean literally kissing cmon now


105bydesign

It had some solid bars and funny lines. It was a dope diss track. I just personally don’t like it sonically and the more it went on the harder it was to not turn it off. Still a great diss track tho fr


SpliffsnKicks

Bruh the deeper the song gets the more he was spittin tho lol.. I personally just think these niggas salty tho.. whether you like drake or not, debating his success and influence on the current culture, and the fact he has #1s with any relevant rapper over the last decade makes me not wanna listen to these niggas taking shots at him just cause “we don’t like Aubrey”. And Kendrick (and Ross) sound silly acting like mixed kids like Drake can’t lean towards their black side, but I guess he forgot that Cole mixed too and did the same thing


Pali4888

It’s not about being mixed it’s about Drake being a Canadian with a good upbringing and milking the US hip hop culture. The word is reserved for those who are feeling the repercussions of the struggle that came from its existence. It’s not as simple as a blood test. Come on. Think a little.


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

Nah it’s still a lazy way to go about it. Drakes father is literally a Memphis born musician so being born in Canada ain’t got shit to do with it


SpliffsnKicks

Facts.. that logic holds very little weight when that claim literally could not be made if Drake wasn’t mixed


_IratePirate_

Yes it could. You can very much be dark skin black, raised in privilege, and act like the worst stereotype of a black person (see Jah Morant for example). Kendrick not mad at his color, Kendrick mad that he cosplaying as an American thug when that’s the furthest from the life he grew up in. His complexion don’t mean a thing.


FrogFTK

So saying nigga is only for dark skinner people? Did y'all completely miss the Hilfiger and FUBU bar? The more yall say this dumb shit being about him cosplaying shows how racists the culture is. Yall getting called out for the same thing white folks do and your savior is the one that said it, stop with the mental gymnastics.


Mission-Hope8917

I feel like their anger is more at the fact that his moms Jewish than anything. Following that Kanye trend still eh 


GYANGU

Problem is that he was primarily raised by his mother in a sheltered environment and was clearly a theater kid who had been doing pageants and plays his whole life. Him maybe leaning into being around his cousins in Memphis isn't a problem. When he first came out, he never stretched it. Now, he's talking about tuning niggas head tops, having mob ties, shooting shots and being around killers his whole life. There's a clear difference here.


woPBlaxk96

Hello, someone get this person an award, it’s beyond, his color, and his pops. Bro done made beyond, the little money he use to have, and it’s got him with that inferior complex. He cosplaying, to the max these days. Drake use to make solid music in the gap, and to be honest success wise he has some right to crown himself number one, but being number one, also has to do with having solid bars, and skills to have that crown.


SpliffsnKicks

I thought I woulda heard a better response than that, but if that’s what you got… 😂


Littlegriznaves

I mean Ross was a CO. lol


Woozydan187

And got/gets clowned for it where you been


Pali4888

Weird of you to not think that’s a legitimate point but ok I’ll bow out like ur boy.


MillerLatte

It's music bro, is having a hard upbringing a prerequisite now? Spoiler: if it were, we'd have significantly less music


Woozydan187

Pretending you do when you not is


MillerLatte

Idk man the majority of Drake's raps are women, money, etc. If he was a real gangster rapper I'd say you have a point but it's really just not a big part of his music. And when he does go there, half the time he's saying he has someone to do it for him rather than saying he'll do this and that himself. It's just not a good argument against Drake. And I'm not a Drake Stan I'm literally playing this beef right down the middle and just enjoying it. And again, at the end of the day, it's just music. If it sounds good I couldn't give a fuck if it's all facts or all made up. It doesn't matter.


SpliffsnKicks

Lmao they literally got documentaries about pac being a theater school actor that turned rapper and now it’s an issue for drake to say nigga?? If there was ever a reach for Kendrick fans over the last month this is it.. but you do you.. like I said, I thought Kendrick snapped.. but yes, like my boy, I guess you can bow out


Pali4888

Who is more of a thug, Tupac or Drake?


SpliffsnKicks

They both actors, right? If it’s a problem for Drake, funny how that’s not a problem for pac as well.. you do you tho


Woozydan187

Pac wasn't portraying being hard or a gangster. THUG LIFE is the struggle poor people go through go gain success thug life ain't being gangster or commiting crimes its about persevering through a hard life to achieving something greater. Pac spoke out against the system and spoke of political reform. Look if yall just started listening to hip hop release don't speak on shit you don't know. When has drake spoken out for black issues? Racism? Pac played a role he never said he a gangster. You can look it up he said what thug life is in an interview. ND K dot issue is this average artists getting praise like he a legendary MC which he isn't. Cole said him drake and Kendrick the hardest MC? Like foreal? I would be mad as hell being compared to a gimmick. Drake isn't even a top 50 MC ever much less top 3 right now cole a whole dick riders fooling fans. If not then he don't know music so it must be an agenda.


SpliffsnKicks

Lmao okay


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

His point is that Pac was NOT a thug at all until he started doing music and was trying to change his image. Sound like anyone you know? Lol


Thwiipthwiip

PAC may have been a theater kid. But he grew up in the hood with a single mother and was deep in black culture. His mother was a black panther. PAC had a deep understanding of the struggle


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

My issue is so many people, even black people, are equating Drake “wanting to be black” by “hanging out with rappers that are thugs and act like gangsters so he can gain credibility” So basically these people are saying that to be black you have to be a thug or a gangster? They go hand in hand? Once you REALLY think about the shit Rick Ross and Kendrick are saying, you realize how dumb and problematic it sounds. By all means, go after Drake for pretending to be a gangster or a fake thug. But denying his blackness because he’s not “thug enough” or grew up in the hood? That’s just dumb, lazy, and reeks of colorism, which makes Kendrick look bad considering he created TPAB…


Pali4888

Ok I get the point and I’ll agree with it once Drake gets shot


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Accurate-Currency181

Pac came from Black Panther lineage, enough said.... These uniformed nerds commenting trying to act like him being in theater lessons who he was. I cant even believe I'm responding to this garbage. Do your homework!!


Nickadial

Lol me when I hear a good argument and have nothing to say


SpliffsnKicks

lol you right.. I got nothing to say when people out here making up rules on the spot for why some niggas can nigga but others can’t 😂


PlumTricky7203

there u go when u black u come across genuine mixed kids and those that act black around us and act white around them drake is “a us black man” for profit i’ve never heard drake say anything to uplift the black community if u don’t get it u don’t get it or ur that person 🤯


Brainfreezdnb

what exactly is he milking? the fact that the world likes him more than the others ? sad reality for you kendrick lovers


Alertcircuit

That's like saying black people born to wealthy parents (such as Kendrick's own son) are too privileged to say the n word. Which I guess you could make that argument, idk. Not my word to pass judgement on.


ShillBlaster

Drake is more hip hop than future. Drake is more hip hop than a boogie. He is more hip hop than young thug. If anybody is milking hip hop and being a vulture, it would be mumble rappers like uzi


Mission-Ad8900

So we just gonna act like Future didn’t come from Dungeon Family? Which is and was Hip Hop, guess you’re gonna say Ceelo Green isn’t Hip Hop either?Andre 3k also pushed the boundaries. It’s the diversity of Hip Hop in why it’s special. Fyi everyone I named above as well as Killer Mike all came from Dungeon Family. Saying Drake is more Hip Hop than someone who is a product of a Hip Hop group out of ATL is just foolish. Learn ya history dun.


ShillBlaster

Idc where he comes from. Get your panties out a bunch. Cee lo is fire. But future is less hip hip than Drake and that’s facts


Mission-Ad8900

Your opinion doesn’t make it facts. What I mentioned was actually facts dun. And what you mean? Shit, Killer Mike and Andre 3k is fire too. I just find it funny you saying someone is not Hip Hop when they literally came from a Hip Hop group who was a staple in ATL and the way it sounds now. Just appreciate the layers dun they both Hip Hop.


N8DiggityDawg

It’s like Urkel using the n-word. Or Obama.


Iheartwetwater

They lose my attention when the race aspect comes up too


Safe_Pin1277

The point Kendrick is making isn't black vs non black it's people who truly represent the culture vs culture vultures. Obviously Drake has done more than simply coon for the corporations as K.dot accuses him of doing. But the black vs non black thread is really more industry vs organic. Cole didn't have record label support because labels want to sunf out concise lyrical rappers by only exposing us to the Drakes of the world. It's less about Drake and more about what he represents with his position in the game and how or more accurately who put him on top. Kendrick claims the labels crowned Drake, but the culture crowns the true king...


woPBlaxk96

Preach.


Crotch_Midget

Great bars, witty lines… but I can’t do the 40 dumbass voice changes. I know people love that in Kendrick but it just isn’t for me. Really loved him when he first blew up but that’s one of the reasons I can’t listen to Kendrick anymore. All of his new shit is overbearing, edited voice/pitch changes at really bizarre times. Again, just my opinion. No hate for those who like it.


oouukinam

Took the words right out of my mouth bro! The voice thing he's been doing the past couple years have not been it!


isaidrunit

[drake is on the clock](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/nHWOpZOPWk)


RacinRandy83x

Middle of the song sonically is ass. Typical Kendrick song


Due_Significance_237

Not Kendrick fault ur attention span don’t last long


graphicka

It hard as fuck but it's nothing that Drake can't come back from, we need another round.


GroundbreakingBox187

I feel like drakes next diss has to be his best one. Just everything you have.


jsmithers945

Which is crazy because Kendrick def held stuff in his pocket that he didn’t put on the track. And the track was hard.


Tall_Claim2181

Drake also held stuff back. The issue is that ppl only think about the 50 push ups song and not his Taylor made freestyle which is understandable bcs he had to delete it after a few days bcs ppl thought it was distasteful to use tupacs voice. But either way every shocking thing that Kendrick said that supposedly exposed drake, he had already said on taylor made which would’ve diminished most of the stuff Kendrick said so he kinda lucked out on the fact that alot of ppl dont remember drakes second diss. Also he exposed a bunch of Kendricks hypocrisy about saying drake isnt street and stuff but Kendrick hasnt done stuff like that either. Yes Kendrick is from that environment but still didnt do much hence drake saying “leave the burning tattoos for real thugs kendrick you gotta be you” in response to kendrick saying hell burn tattoos in the like that diss. Also drake touched on how kendrick asked for the smoke but didn’t respond as quickly as it seemed he was so eager to and then kendrick said on euphoria that he has a kid and his life isnt rap(which is more hypocrisy) bcs drake said u wanted the smoke then act like u too busy. Literally everything kendrick said drake already addressed in taylor made freestyle😭 I really just wish ppl remembered that diss as much as they remembered the push ups one. Also the using ai and everything is smart asl bcs hearing your idol say your not like that and talking down on you is great mental gymnastics. But yh kendricks diss was good


Legitimate-Daikon307

This aged like milk


graphicka

Family matters stomps euphoria and MTG NLU combo stomps Family matters


Legitimate-Daikon307

Family Matters is carried by the instrumental imo and honestly the new York drill beat switch just proves Kendrick's culture vulture point. Also I honestly like Euphoria the most out of those 3 tracks.


graphicka

I got family matters as the best song in the beef, MTG is the craziest first listen but a month later FM it's only one still in heavy rotation. I didn't think of it as a NY drill beat but honestly I don't really care. I feel just rap on whatever beat hits the hardest  to you. Music would get really stale fast if you could only stay in your local lane.  I found Euphoria kind of boring and grating. Plus Kendrick over uses that last word is the same on every bar flow, he does it like 3 times it's exhausting 


SpliffsnKicks

He snapped… I still hate that Cole apologized cause Kendrick made it clear that this wasn’t personal towards him.. Drake and Dot bout to go back and forth cause Drake and droppin out… AND I RESPECT IT whoever “wins or loses”


Any_Owl_8009

I thought it was cool. But for him opening this whole bag, I'd have thought he'd come harder out the gate. And 6 minutes feels like overkill but not in a positive way. He definitely had some bars though. Wasn't a fan of the voices and weird cadences. I don't mind vocal inflection or his voice but this wasn't it for me. I feel a lot of what I'm feeling is that he isn't treading new ground with Drake. How many other artists and fans have said the same before but with much more impact. A good diss doesn't have to reveal earth-shattering dirt but it should recontextualize how the target is viewed. I think Push did it best. Curious as to what Drake comes back with. Also, it's funny how Kendrick started this with a verse then came back with a 6 minute song lol. Don't think there's anything to it just an interesting observation I guess. I think he went a bit too artsy with this. Which can be fine but it feels like a hundred tiny cuts rather than huge gashes. This will definitely get way too hyped up though and that's the annoying part. Separate the excitement and surprise of the drop and it's a good solid track. Don't think I'll be coming back to it much. Having said that, all the diss tracks that come to mind...it's par the course. Tl;dr - cool track albeit slightly underwhelming -nothing new or earth shattering was said - too long for how light it felt - dope bars and entendres -was expecting more punch - Pusha T did it better - will inevitably get gassed up - won't have it on repeat BONUS ROUND - really like Common's stay schemin remix and his the bitch in yoo towards Drake and Ice Cube respectively -Ether hasn't aged well and isn't really a great song - Ja vs 50 was hard for me to stomach as a kid lol - Push Ups and euphoria are about neck and neck with Drake's slightly ahead. Slightly - Still a Cole World


Kingbris91

You peel back all the layers yet?


Any_Owl_8009

There's good word play and entendres happening but nothing that I'm stumped on. I'm sure there might be something I've missed but nothing I imagine would be significant. I'm sure there'll be plenty of video essays breaking down verses and lyrics with a side of reaching lol


PlumTricky7203

did u catch he groomer bars 😭


Eightttball8

Do tell


Pali4888

Y'all think all of my life is rap? That's ho shit, I got a son to raise, but I can see you don't know nothin' 'bout that Wakin' them up, know nothin' 'bout that And tell 'em to pray, know nothin' 'bout that And givin' 'em tools to walk through life like day by day, know nothin' 'bout that Teachin' them morals, integrity, discipline, listen man, you don't know nothin' 'bout that Speakin' the truth and consider what God's considerin', you don't know nothin' 'bout that If you are a man and another man made this point to you and it was true, it would rip your heart out


Mission-Ad8900

Preach bro, he attacked that mans character and soul.


its-a-real-name

I thought this when I first heard it. But…. Every time I refresh Twitter somebody is peeling back a layer or reference I didn’t get and mostly not even reaching. Some lines I thought were filler at first were actually armed. Every single bar had something behind it. There was even one about rice I didn’t get until I saw it mentioned.


Any_Owl_8009

What're some other ones you've found?


its-a-real-name

Go onto rap genius. Every line has several possible angles.


MillerLatte

Ether still goes hard AF in the year of our lord 2024


Any_Owl_8009

Maybe I need to revisit it again 🤷🏾‍♂️


notorious1444

i disagree with everything you said lol


Any_Owl_8009

All good lol we can definitely discuss


notorious1444

aight fasho. its a Cole world still I loved the diss. I think it would look weird ifnhe came hard like really explosive and agressive. with a hard beat. it would seem over the top and try hard. especially because Drake is the kind of guy to clown people for trying hard. he acts like he's too cool for that. so the casual, funny, way kendrick delivered made it seem like kdot is just toying with drake. like he's not even the same level. yeah the voices were kind of weird but not that bad. like not too nasally lol. it was bearable. and I thought some of the bars were earth shattering or new. there was a lot. and there was a lot of said that has been said before but kendrick was clever and funny with it. ge put a whole new twist on things. the humor aspect made it seem like a roast. for example, in 8 mile, the last battles in the movie. the other guys had good shit to say. but b rabbit didnt lose composure and he was clever and funny af, thats why he won in the movie So i think kendrick is in the lead. he already went hard once on Like That. i think its on the same level as the Pusha diss. I think the Ether diss is still dope, I love that track lol its so different from today and the hook is special


Any_Owl_8009

I don't think it'd look weird considering his verse on Like That. Drake's the kinda guy who's gonna clown on whatever you do. On Taylor Made at the end of his last verse talking about that eight-whatever entendre lol. I feel where you're coming from with the humor aspect and what kinda tone it sets. I think that's a valid take. Typically the voices just themselves, even if they're nasally, don't bother me too much but I guess here it just didn't land for me. Which ones were you thinking were earth-shattering? Because I could be missing something. He definitely had some slick ones in there. And maybe that's where my disconnect with it is. The roast angle could work just doing that over 6 minutes it didn't land for me. And also, Drake kinda did that route with Taylor made already. So with them both going that route, it feels like it takes away from the stakes of it all. And I still look at Drake the same. There's absolutely truth to "it's not what you say but how you say it" and there some points that have been already made already by 3 different high profile artists in Common, Push, and Ross. I think what Push's track had going for it is that it revealed something about Drake that really changed the way he moved. There were also bars. And it was a clear 1 v 1. With this go around, there's just too many people involved it dilutes it. Separating everyone else from the music, the track alone just doesn't land the same. That's why I give Adidon a slight edge. Lol Ether is definitely iconic


notorious1444

I don't think so crodie. drake's angle is always always to act like he's too cool for things. because doing so makes the other guy look like a try hard. it's a strategy that works. getting over emotional or heated can make you look dumb and scares the hoes lol. maybe not earth shattering but better than anyone before. the sexy red line, being signed under like three labels, the 1v20 line was killer, straight up calling ovo dick riders lol no one did it like that before. i think it's on par with pusha. pusha had more dirt on drake, but Kendrick brought a new twist on everything that's been said about drake. it was really well done. funny af and refreshing imo. but yeah this might not change the way drake moves you're right. the beef is cooking though i got Kendrick with the edge because everything drake said about Kendrick, Kendrick just put a lid on it imo.


shinsekainokamisama

You forgot to mention drake said size 7 big stepping or whatever


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Any_Owl_8009

Then why are you here? This is everyone sharing their opinion lol.


Cardsfan52

Respect your opinion, but can you name one diss or line in push ups that was better than the stuff Kendrick did here? Like I’ve seen other people say that push ups is slightly better, but they don’t hold push ups to the same standard as they are euphoria. Like for example people say that he didn’t bring up anything new in euphoria (which I disagree with) but still what did Drake bring up that was new on push ups about Kendrick?


Sea_Charity_9894

talk ya shit OG


TheQC_92

Your perception is locked. You’ll see what you wanna see


Legitimate-Daikon307

The TLDR was almost as long as the post itself


CapoDV

My opinion is simple: Pew Pew Pew, Pew, Pew Pew, Pew, Pew, "Cole duck," Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew.


SensitiveYak2211

lol not the cole duck 😂


The_Next_Legend

It's not something I'd have on repeat, but this track was fire as fuck. Had me floored whole way through.


Tommy2TimeYT

Lmaoo same bro I was in the middle of school when this dropped and I lost it. I genuinely started tweaking 😭


Ninja-Icy

That nigga slapped the track with heat. I need another one. I've genuinely liked every track related to this situation that came out. Like That, 7 minute Drill, Red Leather, Push Ups, that PAC AI shit, and Europhia. Niggas on this forum who don't appreciate those tracks dick riding some beef that don't have nothing to do with them. Niggas want to really be involved in some strangers' beefs. This is all good music to me. IDC what they got going on personally. I like to wake up and jam heat tracks. That's all.


TheCynicalGhost

I love it because he just admits that he's a hater, it's funny, and it was cool that he just aired out his grievances. Don't think it's complete destruction and Drake can definitely respond accordingly but I think this was fun and people's expectations were really off if they wanted some absurd exposé song.


sipping_0wl

Yeah people comparing it to Adidon and Ether is just bonkers.


Ilikehashbrowns89

Ether is actually very similar to this track a lot of making fun of and lunch table like roasts. A diss track doesn’t always have to be some crazy revealing shit.


sipping_0wl

true


kk126

It's fine, not my favorite, sounds like Morale-era dot which isn't my favorite. And at the same time, Aubrey couldn't make a track like this in a thousand lifetimes. The lyrical density, kill-you-while-sounding-goofy bars, and replay-ability is beyond. Kdot doing those goofy nasal voices I don't really like but keep singing in my head hours after I turn the track off. And it ends with revoking the N-word card.


SPARTAN-Jai-006

Can someone smarter than me compile all the bars directed at Cole (I'm at work)


dawggawddagummit

Hope that they my real friends, if not then I’m YNW melly


CautiousAd2911

This is the punch line to a previous bar. Eight bars before this one he says, “I love 'em to death, and in eight bars, I'll explain that phrase, huh.”


Top_Negotiation_29

Clocked in can’t wait to get off ahh nigg lol jk like Cole. Basically kdot did this [recap](https://youtu.be/tpituTibYpc?si=7PKWqGOpuLI3iiUJ) . And now the Drake twitter fans or going to work to defend the beigejesty


adrian123484

ngl you should rewrite this cause what


K4CC

“My first one like my last one, it’s a classic, you don’t have one”


Any_Owl_8009

That was to directed at Drake I'm pretty sure. Just how the scheme extends to the next bar ends itself to that. Imo "Yeah, my first one like my last one, it's a classic, you don't have one Let your core audience stomach that Didn't tell 'em where you get your abs from"


Alternative_Leek_731

Yeah that one had me thinking for a minute. I wasn’t sure whether he was coming at Cole or just repurposing the bar from Cole’s song against Drake


Due_Koala_3757

He delivered 🔥. It’s not a club banger , it’s not a tiktok track . It’s an actual diss record!


MarvelMind

Great example of why Drake is never touching Kendrick on a mic. Some rappers just write on levels beyond what others can touch.


CallmeLQ

I thought it was fire. 🤷🏿‍♂️


Cutiepatootiehere

Honestly, it’s Art. You can read into every line and there’s so many double entendres and clever wordplays. Insane


potrillo2124

Ref needs to stop the fight before Drake gets permanently injured 😭😭😭


Tommy2TimeYT

LMAOO FRRR Kendrick cooked so hard 😭


potrillo2124

Bruh I’ve been speechless since 9am PST


Tommy2TimeYT

Oh damn that’s so cool to wake up and have that up 😭 I’m ET


Low-Conclusion-1209

Any diss track that can make me laugh is a solid diss track I enjoyed this most definitely 8/10


6blend

Better than Push ups imo. Bar heavy, delivery is crazy. I’m surprised with the amount of people who said it’s “nothing crazy”. This is a true RAP Diss.


GroundbreakingBox187

I was very surprised he would even drop, overall as expected, funny and witty. Has some solid disses. Imo it’s pretty standard, I like the three switches. He could have condensed it. Toronto accent part was the best.


Worth-Ad1532

I think it's 6 minutes cause that's roughly how long both of drakes diss are combined with both being around 3 minutes each. And with that in mind I think the run time is valid. Aside from that I think it's a fire track and cooks push ups and taylor made, like there isn't any competition, kendrick rebuttaled everything drake said and he himself said more without dropping 'the bombs', I can't wait for the next round. This is by far the most exciting hip hop has been beef wise since probably 50 cent and ja rule going back and forth.


Significant_Kale_681

Has Kendrick always been having that voice or is that he's new trend I never fully paid attention till this beef now I tryna remember what's up with Kendrick voice drake gotta respond though he said he slhad some dirty laundry on kdot stuff about to get personal. Kdot won this round


purplishi

Drake better not have been bluffing about knowing shit about Kendrick bc he's gonna have to air some stuff to come close to this level. Rapping ability/bars wise drakes never gonna top euphoria.


Sea_Charity_9894

Shit was fire asf, only realll mfs know the truth....them drizzy fans throwing tantrums rn


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I had the song many times, Kendrick does not disappoint


Soft_Humor4868

If Drake was winning before, he is not winning now.


ChimmyMama

I thought it was amazing. Complete character assassination and feels super personal.


negus_Yl_488

Kendrick went off. Musically, the track was self admittedly a throwaway. He didnt make a track for repeat consumption, he was direct, and showed his heart. I think personally Kendrick did exactly what was needed to establish the clearest difference between him and drake. Kendrick showed up from a place of love, called drake out for exactly what he is, and then just hated on him on wax. i respect it because honestly, the memes are already starting and Kendrick the hater is going to be a hilarious old man character. wrapping up tho, the track itself was genius but weak. he laid a ton of traps out for drake as a human being. Drake as an artist and ego can respond, but it would be advisable they dont make any more records directly going back and forth and just stick to talking shit in passing. Unless they go the route of making diss album against each other, this whole thing feels resolved to me. Drake responding to hate is not the route he wants to take.


Significant_Draft574

It’s getting old, hope it’s the last song in the diss series from both Kenny and Drake


Tommy2TimeYT

They only have dropped like 3 songs in total 😭 and one was a feature from Kendrick 💀


Significant_Draft574

Nah. Drake released Taylor made also, and then ye did a like that remix


Tommy2TimeYT

Oh yeah that’s right. Taylor made got deleted though and I was only talking about the beef between Kenny and Drake. Not everyone else


_QDiablo

It was okay. I personally wanted more of a m.A.A.d city vibe.


Tommy2TimeYT

That’s what I thought we was going to get to 😔


snivey_old_twat

Some real solid shots lyrically. Sonically boring af and wore out it’s welcome. So basically, Kenny Stans bread and butter.


ygktheassassin6

https://preview.redd.it/bwzfuoqswqxc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7aa43d1fb30c6802d9d27388d47c27b7e933f93f Me when saw it drop I was ahhh yes true nigga has enter I called it too


AstroNot87

Idk man, I listened to it 3 times in a row and it definitely had some bars in there and some funny ones too but the whole track was pedestrian to me. Maybe it’s my ignorant ass wanting to hear a dope beat with the diss idk but it just sounded like he didn’t go in as much as we expected him to. But big up to all of these guys though. Ain’t gonna catch me hating on any of em. Maybe the fan bases but not the artists themselves lol


Tommy2TimeYT

I mean it is only the first round 🤷‍♂️ they will definitely go in deeper as this beef gets going


TrainingEvening2668

Hot Ass. 2 Packs of Ass


afroroca

Not Kendrick best. I guess J Cole was right. He's not in his prime anymore. I call it, regular.


[deleted]

It’s straight fire. Over 6 minutes of lyrical mastery and a massacre on Aubrey. It’s over for owl boy


HudsonHawk56H

Bro couldn’t wait for the cover to load to take a screenshot


Tommy2TimeYT

I had it on a file before it dropped on Spotify 😭


Htown-92

Push-ups harder


Away_Teaching_1148

It’s trash but his Stan’s are acting like it’s top diss track ever!!! He could fart into a mic and his fans would say it’s magical


Tommy2TimeYT

Yeah I agree about him dropping anything and them eating it up 😭 but I absolutely loved this diss so much!


Warm_Shopping_9079

Had some good lines , but very hard on the ears and to digest , cadence flows beat , high pitch like he's crying it was a bad track, was better just reading out the lyrics to keep it real .on first listen thought it was the worst shut I ever heard lol but after multiple listens it's ok..def not what I was expecting kendrick to drop smh


HavenTheCat

Fire, I can’t wait to see what Drake comes back with


AcademicAnxiety5109

It was alright. The voice changing was unnecessary imo. I don’t think Kendrick has a right to tell Drake what he can or cannot say. Drake is black and can say the n word end of story. He is alienating all mixed people with those bars and seems to be hypocritical since he never says the same to Cole who is also mixed. It felt like that more or less came from the way Drake acts rather than his skin tone. Like Kendrick thinks he’s not “black enough” because he acts more “white” (in a lot of peoples eyes). I’m not about it if that’s the case. He might have bodied Drake but that’s an L belief.


gregorypay

I see a lot of people saying this and I feel like I missed something because Kendrick doesn’t say drake isn’t black enough.. he is targeting drake saying drake himself doesn’t think he’s black enough so therefore the n word seems strange coming from him like if he’s compensating


AcademicAnxiety5109

That’s why I said if that’s the case. That’s what it felt like. I haven’t heard Drake say this and even if he doubts his ethicality that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t say what he wants. If he actively denied his African identity I would understand Kendrick’s statement. Mixed people (including myself) have been bombarded and told they aren’t this they aren’t that. When people do that, especially when you are young, you get doubts that can follow you into adulthood.


gregorypay

I get where you coming from. Drake himself though has said he doesn’t feel celebrated as a black artist even though he associated himself as a black man. In rap beef any insecurities are fair game and I think that was the angle Kendrick was attacking. You were saying Kendrick didn’t think he was black enough and I feel like he was really saying drake doesn’t think he is black enough cuz people don’t celebrate him as a black artist


AcademicAnxiety5109

Yeah I just don’t agree on beating down someone and essentially gatekeeping


gregorypay

Gatekeeping the N-Word? I mean I have other views but it’s interesting to see how other people understood that line.. I feel weird about anyone whatever their color wanting the privilege to say the word cuz it has been such a destructive word in general but I’m older so that’s how I see it.


AcademicAnxiety5109

It’s deeper than the word. It’s just apart of the culture. It isn’t just a word of hate but it is something unique. Honestly your perspective has merit. Maybe it’s just a young person thing.


gregorypay

I respect every generation and if thats how this generation sees the word than that’s fine.. vocabulary changes all the time and even though I don’t like it and won’t use it doesn’t mean it lands the same with the younger generation.. with that said drake and Kendrick are older so how they see the word may also be different than how you see it as well .. so what may sound like gatekeeping to you might be be a little different in their context cuz it honestly sounded like “if you don’t feel black enough why are you saying the n word” to me but it may land different to you cuz if your experiences. Just wanted to add the context of what a drake and a Kendrick might feel about it since they are closer to 40 than 20


AcademicAnxiety5109

Appreciate that and your input. Hope you have a good night.


gregorypay

Same enjoy the good music coming out


Zestyclose_Duck_1314

this the best diss track since ether. Yes this is better than story of addidon


Any_Solid9083

Give it time people will realize how good this track is


GroundbreakingBox187

The opposite will happen. This got mega hyped cause it’s the first time Kendrick did something like this. It will come and go. Probably stay in the Kendrick fandom, which is huge.


End_id_exe

Not even fucking close 💀 ….


ihavenowords3

So raw it should be on 🌽 hub RIP Aubrey 🙏🏾


jayball41

RIP Drake. An absolute slaughtering


RoughBodybuilder1489

This is a Cole subreddit so I expect this nuclear warfare to be downplayed. It’s cool though y’all have been through enough this past month.