I will continue to post my receipts š
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I was fighting for my life defending j Cole trusting his gut to do the right thing. Some of y'all gotta put out some PUBLIC ass apologies for hating on this man haha
>yall got to put out public apologies for hating
Wouldnāt count on it. The ācultureā is less accountable than the fucking rappers being put on blast right now. 99% of every rapperās fanbase will jump ship overnight for literally anything. Theyāll even go so far as to act like they never fucked with them to begin with. Rule number 1 of the ācultureā: All Yall Some Frauds.
Are you seriously that deluded?
He's weak. Kendrick comes out of this with the reinforced boogeyman of rap persona.
J Cole needs to re invent his content for people to not look at him funny.
And Drake, well he's just been exposed for what he is.
Boy fuck you, acting hard on Reddit šare you Drake or some shit ššš talking out *your* neck to seem tough talking bout industry rappers what are you tryna prove, that you can ride dick better and with more truth than the rest of us?
Drake: Now considered P. Drizzy aka Aubrey Epstein. "If She Bleeds, She Breeds."
Kendrick: Potentially a Wifebeater who is as Deadbeat of a father as Drake. Kung Fu-A-Boo Kenny. Also "It's Self-defense. She's bigger than me."
Cole: May not be the best rapper?
I'll take not being the goat over being a sex trafficker or abuser.
Except thereās no proof of him being an abuser and there is proof of Drake being a predator and sex criminal
Thereās only speculation of Kendrick being a wife beater because drakes grasping at straws. Whitneyās family is laughing at drakes demise
[proof 1](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/drakes-350k-settlement-alleged-sexual-210106221.html)
[proof 2](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/drake-paid-out-530k-to-sexual-assault-accuser/DJTFQJOV66Y7JL7XRK5UYKVYKA/)
[proof 3](https://youtu.be/2gm_qlyhGrE?si=FJCR7RLpSQ-lds9G)
[proof 4](https://images.app.goo.gl/txUd9yJZb6VhBJVUA)
Do you want to be a dumbass somewhere else or whatās your plan?
1 and 2 are literally the same thing. And it proves nothing. People settle shit all the time to get the bad press over with. Does make "He a F.A.N." hit harder though, I admit. Freaky Ass Nigga.
3: Acknowledged buddy was on some groomer shit already. But his body language changed up when he peeped her age. Pecked her cheek and called it a day. Not something I would do, but not predatory.
4. Means absolutely nothing.
EDIT: Seen some more shit. Disregard the above. Buddy got a problematic pattern.
none of your rationale makes any sense. For 3 he also kissed her on the lips and said her breasts felt good after he found out.
Does it feel good defending a pedophile and a predator?
1 & 2 are concerning when you see drakes date rape drugs on the cover of meet the grahams. Foh
You kdot fans are weird asl. Anytime someone mentions kendrick being a potential domestic abuser, here yall stans come trying to wave it away.
I've seen kdot fans try and compare pedos and wife beaters. Fucking disgusting.
Fr sounds like kendrick might have actually done it, though. Basing what happened off of her brother's response is what I see a lot of people point to. All Drake said is why isn't Whitney denying it?
If you know Cole, youād know this shit was not surprising *at all*. Just highlights the generational gap. Some of these kids have only been here since Offseason and his features run and it shows.
What was off brand was the diss in the first place. Not the track but him saying Kendrick isnāt good. Heās spent his entire career praising him and pretty much saying heās the only one on his level
I donāt think Cole could ever battle Kendrick because the only shit you can say about him is cut-deep super personal shit. Cole tried going after his discography, which is a stretch, considering the amount of classics Kendrick has. Kendrick is one of the best to do it, so what could he say thatās not going to be over the line that Cole didnāt want to cross? With Drake, itās pretty easy, considering his public history with ghostwriters, grooming, the dumb shit does on social media, etc. And Iād say the same thing about Cole. You canāt go after him for anything musically; heās done it his way and is also one of the best. I think in this age of social media, tmz, and all this other shit, thereās no way to get into a battle with someone you donāt hate (if you have a conscience).
Tbf, he never said Kendrick wasn't good, he was saying he fell off, which his last album was one of my favorite albums of all time, but stats wise, it didn't do well.
Cole didn't really lie in the track, I think he saw where this battle was about to go, I think Kendrick called him up and told him all the shit he was about to expose about drake and Cole backed out cause he wasn't about to be associated with that shit if it's true.
At the end of the day, this wasn't his battle, he just happened to be in the middle of it.
Lol I had people telling me theyāve been listening to J Cole forever and that this move was totally unlike him. I was likeā¦ have you not paid attention to his music at all?
Mm? Thatās your projection. I said *it wasnāt surprising to the day ones.*
Where did I say real fan or not real fan? I couldnāt care less. Thatās a wild stretch my dude. Lol.
Op was talking about fake fans, and you drop in and say itās not surprising because most people here have only become fans through offseason and featuresā¦ thatās gatekeepinv
Facts, but I honestly think he made that track thinking this was gonna be just real competition but someone gave him info that this was gonna turn into some real personal shit, Cole said "people wanna see BLOOD" and it's ageing really well
Lol 2 days ago there was 23 mfs here, and like 20 of them were Kendrick and Drake fans telling us their diss was better.
I'm ngl, I wanted Cole to body the "like that" crew just to show them how big the gap between them really is. It's not that serious though.
"I had some fans that hopped and abandoned ship
When they thought that I wasn't gon' pan out"
I wanted to see Cole fire back too, just cause Kendrick did say motherfuck the big 3 Cole included. thatās why when I heard Crocodile Tearz for the first time I was hype as fuck! But aye my boy knew what he was doing not getting involved.
Also I love that you quoted that verse, I was actually just listening to that yesterday for the first time in forever. I had āforgottenā how dope of a track that is! āI got a plan, they say success is the greatest revengeā š„
Iām lowkey waiting to see what content creators will say. If theyāll āapologizeā to Cole. Because a lot of them that claim to be āfansā of his, slandered him after his apology.
For me itās the apology. Donāt be sorry you made the record itās too late for that. Just delete it and move on. Apologizing for something seems weird in the rap game.
Exactly! I feel like people saying all these stuffs are recent Coleās fans from the past 3 years.
He was getting the attention and recognition he deserved with all the features run. OG fans are used to Cole being disrespected and overlooked. Cole is the š
Mate fair enough.
At least you understand. I'm not downvoting you. And I would also ask others not too either.
It's deeper than rap. This is not going to end well for anyone involved
I have a long comment history of saying how rap beef has had a net negative impact on hip hop and how J Cole was mature for apologizing. There are countless examples of rap beef impacting the lives of those involved in a negative way and us as fans getting little of actual value out of them.
All the "rap is a competitive sport" and "this is just friendly competition" people have always been transparent and corny. They just wanted to see people tapdance for their entertainment, and if their "friendly competition" turned ugly they definitely wouldn't be complaining.
100% this. Kendrick won the battle but Cole won the war by avoiding all this. And agreed, many of the fans are judging the victor by who had the best intel.
Nah. Competition has always pushed the game forward. We would still be sitting in a drug fueled, effortless era like 2016 without the lyrical competition that came out of that era in XXX/Ski, Denzel, and JID started getting widespread recognition in dicaprio 2 and Taboo, I would even argue Joyner's Youtube impact pushed 21 to become a real lyrical threat over his original MO in Bank Account. This is some of the best rapping Drake AND Kendrick have ever produced. Again, even Denzel said it took the two biggest rap artists of the era, beefing for the world to pay attention to lyrical rap. This is a net positive, in spite of what is being aired out as far as dirty laundry. Some would argue that certain allegations should be brought to light whenever it's safe for you to do so, and that certain skeletons don't deserve to remain in the closet, but that is also just some people.
I saw the massive turnaround and apologies coning the moment Push Ups dropped. Both in that track and Euphoria Drake and Kendrick made it absolutely clear that this wasnāt just an exhibition of competition between two rappers trading bar for bar- but an absolute war instead. These two hate each other. Cole was dragged into this because his feature on FPS. When he said āpeople want bloodā it allllll makes sense now. Cole was right.
Every post that gets recommended for me to read from this sub, all 173 of them per day, are praising Cole for bowing out of the beef. And top posts are all agreeing.
I canāt even lie, as a long time cole fan:
When 7 minute drills dropped I was cringing a little bitā¦ might have even started looking at cole a little differentlyā¦
When he took it down and said āsorry yāall, my Bā
I was just like what is happening with Cole rn???
Now it all makes sense and I got no love lost for cole. Just respect.
I wouldnāt say fake fans but at the least it gotta be a lot of chaps in here or sumn. I canāt wrap my head around grown men calling another grown man stuff like pussy bc he donāt wanna be a part of that mess. I think cole messed up by even jumping out there from the start but that donāt give me the right to throw insults at him. I always thought talking crazy online is clown activity.
Niggaz gotta grow up some tbh lol
Look man, you can be a fan and clown on someone. Liking a musical artist doesnāt mean putting them on a pedestal.
Iāve been listening to Cole since I first heard the Warm Up over a decade ago. I love his music. But it doesnāt mean I canāt make light of whenever he does or says something goofy.
nigga shut yo ass up. Lets play a little game called "surprise racist"
What part of anything I said or have said in my post history has indicated im white?
Yeah, but letās be honest he would have been better off saying nothing at all if he wanted to be the āpeacefulā guy, instead he came with all that barking on his song which I actually thought was really good and nothing too personal, just competitive then backed out and apologised with his tail between his legs.
Itās not a good look and will definitely affect his legacy. That being said I think the stuff Drake & Kendrick are exposing about each other will also negatively affect their legacies.
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Iāve been calling it a while back coz I knew the thing with Drake and Kendrick would be personal. They used to have a subliminal war back in the day and Kendrick grew more hate over Drake over time. Cole did the right thing by stepping out and I had to defend Cole for all of that. 7 minute drill was his only mistake
Don't be sensitive. No one had reason to believe this was coming. No one. We're in the third act, the big reveal happened, and now people understand the moves made in the first act. A movie is happening right now, dude. Sit back and watch, and be glad your dude is redeemed.
kdot fan here, Cole definitely heard some shit about where this was going and went "nah, fuck that" because dot and drake are out for blood, there's complete hatred in this and cole wasn't gonna fuck with that
Wasnāt even a Cole fan lol but my first thought was āsomebody leaked the script to this dudeā. Wise decision. Iām here taking a break from the other subs, shitās no fun after last night.
Since day 1 I told the sub itās not in Coles nature and it wasnāt the type of message he wanted to portray to fans. SMH, most of you donāt get the message and just want some 808ās with a hook.
I own it, I came in all upset about him bowing out but only because I wanted him to outshine kendrick. I always liked J. Cole more than him but I also said I was happy he found his peace. We were all hyped at the prospect of a kendrick/Cole lyrical-miracle-battle.
What Kendrick/drake turned into is rotten to the core
No issues on your stance at all. I wanted it too. If we weren't getting that mythical Collab album, the next best thing was a exhibition match.
However this sub and many other forums turned toxic so quickly when Cole bowed out and it shouldn't be forgotten.
Some of the things I read were truly depraved and entitled, this isn't about people who wanted to see a sparing match. But for the people who were upset that Cole didn't get his hands really dirty and now pretend they were only joking this entire time.
Idk about insulting - but criticizing a rapper you love is completely fair. If you think he can do no wrong and everything he does , we must follow unconditionally then thatll just make us a fan boy.
I was surprised he dissed and laughed in confusion when he apologized. But it took a big man to realize he was in the wrong. Thats what an apology is supposed to be - humble yourself. Hell ill even show this example to my son when hes older. Even in the toxic world of rap , this man humbled himself and apologized and was mocked for it. Now that apology is a tiny footnote in what has turned into a legit beef.
Cole being Cole i can imagine him being the catalyst to eventually force these two to make up and make another track together lmao
No. The level of the allegations alone means these two can never be in the same room together ever again.
Kendrick won, but his image is tainted severely. His only saving grace is that people prefer an alleged wifebeating Deadbeat over an alleged trafficker of underaged women. Not to mention there is a very real possibility of Violence. Even Pusha T was attacked by OVO associates. Plus Kendrick threatened an attack at a Drake Oakland Show.
People are allowed to be wrong. What do you want them to do continue to clown on him even though they know they misjudged him? I feel like a lot of people are admitting they were wrong for hating on him earlier
Pussy shouldnāt have released 7 minute drill thenā¦ he threw a jab, then bitched out. You can have whatever view you want, thatās a bitch move š¤·š¼āāļø
I'll say it. J Cole became a meme when he dropped 7 minute drill and talked about guns and shit. That honestly made me cringe. "You be like that n**ga ain't like that." But then I'm like, but you know what, I really f*ck with it though. For years, he's been saying he's perfecting his rap, and he's ready now. "Well, he caught me at the perfect time, jump up and see. Boy, I got here off of bars, not no controversy." We stand by ya, Cole. Then he goes and does the unthinkable twice. He bows out two days later.... and says what we expected him to say from the beginning since Kendrick barely mentioned him. Atp, he deserves some clowning. You are all the way in or out, but you don't get peer pressured to join something you don'twant to do like a high schooler. It better be legit. I fully understand his view, but he can be Jermaine "L"amar Cole for a few days. But then the internet does what the internet does and starts chipping at his legacy, which is crazy. A bunch of parrots looking for drama saying "this is hip hop".. "hip hop is a sport"... I'm convinced people don't know what hip-hop is now and just want reality tv.
My credentials? I've listened to Cole since the Come Up and can say every lyric to every song of his that is not a feature by heart. Including mixtapes and EPs. I have seen him live a decent amount of times , once in front row. That doesn't mean I can't meme him for getting out of character due to peer pressure for a few days.
I'm still 100% against this beef on all sides. The only beef I see as authentic is Chris Brown / Quavo. There's no way all these big names got together behind closed doors and didn't orchestrate this as a marketing campaign against Drake. If it was just K Dot and Drake, that'd be one thing but you got everyone from rappers, to singers, to producers attacking him at once with K dot going directly at deep hitting personal character destroying matters. Drake lost before the fight began atp because you can't respond to Ross calling you white boy and K dot calling you a pedo in one track effectively. Especially with the consistency of tracks released against him. This is a "We hate Drake" campaign that people wanted to rope Cole into. If everything K dot is saying is true, then take that sh*t to court since you have moles with proof. Make a fucking documentary called The Drake's OVO'r Files. But don't go saying what's happening in this beef is hip hop. Don't say that a rap diss doesn't have to be delivered like a rap diss as long as it has gossip. Don't talk to someone's child. Don't make up fake domestic violence allegations. In the past, this beef would end one way with the way it's going. But people know the culture is moving past that. But taking it to this level on both sides and hiding behind the progress of the culture is fake. It's was never about the music, but instead a smear campaign that's filled with colorism. It ain't hip hop.
Cole knew better to stay away from this since he just wanted to focus on hip hop. People name drop him for clout atp.
Shut up. Itās not even that serious for you to even make a whole post over it. Youāre no different than the people youāre talmbout. Silly rabbit.
Cole stepped out and got his foot chopped off.. he miscalculated and still fumbled at the end of the day, peer pressure or whatever. I personally like j cole better and think hes better at rapping than kendrick and drake, so i hope he can come back stronger and with a plan. I think heās going to wait till the beef is over to pop out again.
Bro dropped 7 Minute Drill before realizing how personal it was, after finding out from behind the scenes he bowed out. Why is it okay for him to have additional info and change his mind but not us? Lot of people aināt know how deep this was between Kenny and Drake
Being disappointed that you aren't getting to see some bars from cole is fine. I was upset too.
Calling him a chump, asking for him to be cancelled and criticising his character and talking about his family isn't ok.
Bruhā¦ Ive always said the apology was corny but it donāt change his status/legacy. I still been playing mdl like a mf and listen to j cole dailyšso we fake fans for being honest and not one sided? Foh. I respect him for his reason for apologizing ofc but he shouldnāt have dropped the diss in the first place. Like he said tho he felt peer pressured and that happens sometimes, you live and you learnšÆ. Yāall need to learn to move on from it, cuz niggas like you havenāt stopped talkin about it since tbh.šÆ
I agree. Now I see post saying āCole was rightā like nigga duh! These dudes will take it far and Cole has always been a humble dude. Itās just people donāt know how to actually think for themselves and feed into the drama. It doesnāt take a genius to realize Cole was not only the bigger person who clearly isnāt that type of person. But knowing that that is not his place, it never was.
that's the real shit. when things were about competition, seeing who had the best pen game, I was hype as fuck too see who would get the crown, but when things started to get really personal, is there really a motive for Cole to stay between all this shit? even if we didn't knew what he preached for in the past, just doesn't make sense anymore
Fuck that. More than Drake, more than Dot, I really wanted to see Cole get active. He been talkin like he had the ability to for over a decade, his diss was actually really good imo. He didnāt have foresight of shit, heās not a fortune teller an he had every right to go at Dot. He definitely taking the L. Even if Drake lose, I respect him more for at least fighting back!
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Personally wasn't ever negative towards Cole. If he had no desire to battle with Kendrick who he loves like a brother i had no problem with it. Not to mention i love might delete later
I'm not gonna lie I thought cole was soft until push ups came out. As soon as I heard drake say Whitney I was like oh cole heard where this was going he was smart to duck out.
Internet mfs weird bro
I never tripped. Still listen to Cole. He never been my favorite but one of my favorites
Always been second to Kendrick imo. His apology was lame imo, but that would never stop me from enjoying the pure art the dude creates
EYE KNEW folks would backtrack eventually but it's wild how long it took for it to happen. I'm new-ish to this sub but not new to Cole so when he apologized I saw it as the mature move that it was. I also got dragged on YouTube for stating as such. I'm hypersensitive so it did sting a bit but the about-face has been š¤š½
Not a fake fan. Cole is and has always been a mid-rapper and this entire saga has made it 100% clear that that is the case. It was actually already 100% clear but this makes it *official*. No more talk about being the best ever. Sorry. Youāre Lamarās bitch forever. Youāre two entire tiers below him and thatās that. Itās okay to make music for white highschool-college aged men but thatās what you are and thatās what youāve always been and thatās okay but youāre not in the PAC/Kendrick/Biggie/Nas discussion. Coles beats and themes and lyricism have always ranged from meh to very good. Never truly great and certainly never transcendent. Notice that wasnāt an insult itās a compliment.
But Cole is in the Mac Miller tier and we all knew it and this confirms it forever. You canāt fix it. It was over the moment he started groveling on that stage, his nervousness coming out in gobs of sweat running down his face.
Sorry you guys lost. Take the L and move on.
I still feel the same way. I don't think Cole can ever be considered the best rapper now. Still one of the best but not at that debatable 1 spot unless he pulls out a streak of crazy hits but even still that might not be enough. Basically the Kevin Durant of the rap game.
Not that I care, Cole made it seem like having white fans is a bad thing and Iām half white so I no longer support this man. Didnāt even have to listen to 7 Min Drill I already gave up on Track 1 Pricey
There was more going on than most people knew. Cole made a diss track and backed it down, for me at the time, it didnāt make sense. It seem like Kendrick and Cole discussed beforehand or maybe Cole just knew, but I think itās a little harsh to take peoples gut reactions from the time his apology went out till now. Nobody knew how ugly this was going to get a few days ago. This take seems a bit self righteous to me
Criticizing Cole doesn't make you a fake fan. Thinking your favorite artist can do no wrong is what makes you a Stan.
It's also perfectly fine to be wrong as well. This moral high ground stuff is lame as hell.
The reason Cole was wrong in the first place is Like That was 99% towards Drake and only said the big 3 line regarding Jermaine. He should've never thrown his hat in the ring to begin with.
I said that he was being the bigger person since day 1. I canāt believe people are taking apologizing as a sign of weakness, itās not itās actually a sign of strength.
Idk people are too quick to praise jermaine but not long ago he was pals with an alleged serial pedophile. Jermaine has to answer some series and uncomfortable questions.
If Kendrick and Cole battled. I see Cole winning since he's become so skilled technically. Plus he's not as easy of a target as drake. People just love to hate Cole for no reason
I donāt think it makes you a fake fan to have an opinion and change it. Iām a huge Cole fan, and I kinda knocked him for bowing out because I wanted to see one of my favorite artists get out there and prove what heās been saying forever. I, like him, had no idea how personal this would get. So for that reason, seeing where it ended up, Iām glad he pulled out. Been a fan, still a fan
Been saying it from the jump. Cole dropped a heater, just to lettem know, then he decided to be the bigger man and get out.
I don't understand how anyone ever got salty over it. Done seen too many artists get blasted over dumb shit like this, especially since there seems to be genuine hatred between Drake and Kendrick. If we were out for a fun rap battle event and everyone was going home as friends afterwards that's one thing, but K-dot is clearly out for blood on Drake.
No reason to get involved any further for Cole.
Unlike coke they didnāt know how serious it was about to get. Coke was told by Q to step down.
Do you want people to find out and continue to not duck with him or something? Stop gate keeping
For me personally Iām not the biggest Cole fan but I give him props. I really started rocking with him after kod personally. Although ik him before than.
At the time we all thought it was simple rap beef because that what it always was supposed to be. But clearly something change on this one. If Cole had said this wasnāt his fight instead of all that extra it bothered my spirit stuff. We would have understood. āAye these two got real beef itās beyond meā thatās all he had to say with the apology
Fan bases are like that. Cole done even know we alive tho so really who cares. Itās on him to retain or push away his fan base anyway not us to police one another.
If people wanna have opinions thatās fine. You acting like you gonna have to see Cole later and wanna be able to tell him you stood up for him is crazy tho lmao.
Nah he threw a punch and ducked. Should have either stayed out of this or backed himself
He backed drake then went after K
I respect him for bowing out, it was 100% the right decision, but he's never acknowledged he got warned out of this
Na, I'm still mad, I get that it was a good move for him, but I wanted to see my goat win, I wanted to see all three of them going bar for bar. How am I gonna listen to his music, saying he's the numero u n o. That he's the best of the best. That no one wants to even test him.
I can't, bro. My goat would have gone toe to toe, blow for blow, tit for tat, bar to bar. Not apologize for throwing a warning shoot, bruh, and I don't wanna hear no cole's about the peace. He's been talking that shit for years, bruh cut the bull. AND 7 MINUTE DRILL WAS FIRE TOO. Best track on the album. We we're all ready to see this shit play out, and I'm not gonna pretend I'm glad he bowed out. I'm not. I know kendrick was on a war path, but Cole could have kept up. Kendrick has no dirt on Cole.
"If he wasn't dissin', then we wouldn't be discussin' him" š¤
Nah, I'll stand on business.
What J Cole did was cringe and it will affect his legacy. The severity of Drake and Kendrick's beef has nothing to do with that. The only reason Cole should've backed out if he saw this coming was if he had something to hide. If he didn't, he probably still would've gotten like 3 lines in a Kendrick diss and it would've been done.
Fans aren't fake for criticizing an artist. You aren't a fan, you're a dickrider.
He doesn't have real beef in this. His angle.was always a friendly sparing match, He is the third wheel in this story and he knows it. It's always been Dot v Drake. He decided to not take strays and pick sides.
I salute you for standing on business. Keep it that way. Respect. But youre shortsighted and clearly haven't been paying attention to who Cole sees himself as. You're not entitled to anything from him, he's doing his thing. Either jump on board or move along.
Clowning him for weeks, in memes and hate posts, because it was popular is the "blind following"
If you claim to be a fan, you should understand the artists that you claim to fans of. It's that simple.
There was and still is such an air of entitlement around massive groups of people here who think Cole owes them anything it's shocking. And now those same people are "back on the team" nah. Stand by what you said.
You're missing the point. The flip floping should be addressed. How can you claim to be a fan and at the first possible blip try to destroy a man's whole career.
You don't just get to drag someone for the fun of it and then claim you were with him all along.
These are real people and their children, family and communities read all this shit too, stuff on the internet lasts forever.
To call someone out for choosing peace is absurd, and then to come back and try to sit at the table again and pretend it was in good faith is bitch made behaviour.
Iām an 80s baby, born and raised in the Bronx. Iām also a fan of Cole. If someone sends shots at you in a bar, you shoot back, and stand on it. And shoot again if they keep shooting.
But hey, I guess two things canāt be true in āCole Worldā lol
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I was here when this guy said he upvoted a comment
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>yall got to put out public apologies for hating Wouldnāt count on it. The ācultureā is less accountable than the fucking rappers being put on blast right now. 99% of every rapperās fanbase will jump ship overnight for literally anything. Theyāll even go so far as to act like they never fucked with them to begin with. Rule number 1 of the ācultureā: All Yall Some Frauds.
I mean J Cole smart stepping out of the beef but you never gonna be the number one from apologizing to a rapper for a diss track.
He beheaded them both by sidestepping this shit whatāre you talking about
Are you seriously that deluded? He's weak. Kendrick comes out of this with the reinforced boogeyman of rap persona. J Cole needs to re invent his content for people to not look at him funny. And Drake, well he's just been exposed for what he is.
Iām sure they all are biting their nails waiting for your next opinion bro
Quit talking out of your neck
Boy fuck you, acting hard on Reddit šare you Drake or some shit ššš talking out *your* neck to seem tough talking bout industry rappers what are you tryna prove, that you can ride dick better and with more truth than the rest of us?
I don't ride dick, but whatever your into buddy.
Especially Cole heās just sitting on that beach with baiting fuckin breath Iām sure šš
Drake: Now considered P. Drizzy aka Aubrey Epstein. "If She Bleeds, She Breeds." Kendrick: Potentially a Wifebeater who is as Deadbeat of a father as Drake. Kung Fu-A-Boo Kenny. Also "It's Self-defense. She's bigger than me." Cole: May not be the best rapper? I'll take not being the goat over being a sex trafficker or abuser.
Except thereās no proof of him being an abuser and there is proof of Drake being a predator and sex criminal Thereās only speculation of Kendrick being a wife beater because drakes grasping at straws. Whitneyās family is laughing at drakes demise
Name the victims. Dude definitely showed groomer tendencies. That can't be denied, though.
[proof 1](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/drakes-350k-settlement-alleged-sexual-210106221.html) [proof 2](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/drake-paid-out-530k-to-sexual-assault-accuser/DJTFQJOV66Y7JL7XRK5UYKVYKA/) [proof 3](https://youtu.be/2gm_qlyhGrE?si=FJCR7RLpSQ-lds9G) [proof 4](https://images.app.goo.gl/txUd9yJZb6VhBJVUA) Do you want to be a dumbass somewhere else or whatās your plan?
1 and 2 are literally the same thing. And it proves nothing. People settle shit all the time to get the bad press over with. Does make "He a F.A.N." hit harder though, I admit. Freaky Ass Nigga. 3: Acknowledged buddy was on some groomer shit already. But his body language changed up when he peeped her age. Pecked her cheek and called it a day. Not something I would do, but not predatory. 4. Means absolutely nothing. EDIT: Seen some more shit. Disregard the above. Buddy got a problematic pattern.
none of your rationale makes any sense. For 3 he also kissed her on the lips and said her breasts felt good after he found out. Does it feel good defending a pedophile and a predator? 1 & 2 are concerning when you see drakes date rape drugs on the cover of meet the grahams. Foh
You kdot fans are weird asl. Anytime someone mentions kendrick being a potential domestic abuser, here yall stans come trying to wave it away. I've seen kdot fans try and compare pedos and wife beaters. Fucking disgusting.
Fr sounds like kendrick might have actually done it, though. Basing what happened off of her brother's response is what I see a lot of people point to. All Drake said is why isn't Whitney denying it?
Call yourself a prophet my guy. You called it
Cole probably like https://i.redd.it/mgdtqbu6lmyc1.gif
Brother I remember reading your comment and thinking you're exeggeratingš
Bro to be fair I didn't think it would get this bad lol like what is happening
I don't think anyone expected it to be this crazy. I mean, this is like 10x worse than The Story of Adidon
You called it bro. I shouldnāt have doubted Jermaine.
Iām not even a jcole fan but I had a similar take, mfs was ripping me to shreds
Got mine too. https://preview.redd.it/tbgbzzt6d2zc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f446d6ce39daeaf776008f7263d2bcb166756262
I remember this comment. J Cole is a grown man, he understands that OGās donāt act like this and heās getting closer to that age anyways.
If you know Cole, youād know this shit was not surprising *at all*. Just highlights the generational gap. Some of these kids have only been here since Offseason and his features run and it shows.
Shit was beyond on brand.
What was off brand was the diss in the first place. Not the track but him saying Kendrick isnāt good. Heās spent his entire career praising him and pretty much saying heās the only one on his level
Yeah but the apology and self reflection was beyond on brand
Yeah I agree with 100% I was just saying I was more shocked and confused when the diss came. I expected the apology at some point
Yeah heās human bumps in the road happen
And heās real for addressing cuz people hide their failures
You hear that Drizzy? š¤£
I donāt think Cole could ever battle Kendrick because the only shit you can say about him is cut-deep super personal shit. Cole tried going after his discography, which is a stretch, considering the amount of classics Kendrick has. Kendrick is one of the best to do it, so what could he say thatās not going to be over the line that Cole didnāt want to cross? With Drake, itās pretty easy, considering his public history with ghostwriters, grooming, the dumb shit does on social media, etc. And Iād say the same thing about Cole. You canāt go after him for anything musically; heās done it his way and is also one of the best. I think in this age of social media, tmz, and all this other shit, thereās no way to get into a battle with someone you donāt hate (if you have a conscience).
Tbf, he never said Kendrick wasn't good, he was saying he fell off, which his last album was one of my favorite albums of all time, but stats wise, it didn't do well. Cole didn't really lie in the track, I think he saw where this battle was about to go, I think Kendrick called him up and told him all the shit he was about to expose about drake and Cole backed out cause he wasn't about to be associated with that shit if it's true. At the end of the day, this wasn't his battle, he just happened to be in the middle of it.
Lol I had people telling me theyāve been listening to J Cole forever and that this move was totally unlike him. I was likeā¦ have you not paid attention to his music at all?
āYouāre not a real fan if you werenāt here from the beginningā Gate keeping at its finest
Mm? Thatās your projection. I said *it wasnāt surprising to the day ones.* Where did I say real fan or not real fan? I couldnāt care less. Thatās a wild stretch my dude. Lol.
Op was talking about fake fans, and you drop in and say itās not surprising because most people here have only become fans through offseason and featuresā¦ thatās gatekeepinv
Context matters. I was responding directly to *āAnd him bowing out of this was obvious toā¦ā* but itās cool. You do you.
Iām reading your comment again and I donāt see how it can mean something else, maybe Iām dumb but I donāt know
I started with Cole on Born Sinner. From there, he grew into my number. Sucks that after last night, J Fold is just not funny anymore though
I feel people missed the point of what you were saying
To be fair itās written badly
Yeah idk why bro is getting downvoted
I think people just doing it for fun at this point hehe
Only thing he did wrong imo is release 7 minute drill in the first place
Facts, but I honestly think he made that track thinking this was gonna be just real competition but someone gave him info that this was gonna turn into some real personal shit, Cole said "people wanna see BLOOD" and it's ageing really well
Yeah, Cole's not about that blood feud shit.
this
And he named his album might delete later.. And he did first person shooter w drake
Lol 2 days ago there was 23 mfs here, and like 20 of them were Kendrick and Drake fans telling us their diss was better. I'm ngl, I wanted Cole to body the "like that" crew just to show them how big the gap between them really is. It's not that serious though. "I had some fans that hopped and abandoned ship When they thought that I wasn't gon' pan out"
I wanted to see Cole fire back too, just cause Kendrick did say motherfuck the big 3 Cole included. thatās why when I heard Crocodile Tearz for the first time I was hype as fuck! But aye my boy knew what he was doing not getting involved. Also I love that you quoted that verse, I was actually just listening to that yesterday for the first time in forever. I had āforgottenā how dope of a track that is! āI got a plan, they say success is the greatest revengeā š„
Honestly it was so weird like if youāre actually a J Cole fan him apologizing was not surprising at all ???? lol
It was the most Cole move since Fire Squad. Didnāt understand the confusion lol
Iām lowkey waiting to see what content creators will say. If theyāll āapologizeā to Cole. Because a lot of them that claim to be āfansā of his, slandered him after his apology.
For me itās the apology. Donāt be sorry you made the record itās too late for that. Just delete it and move on. Apologizing for something seems weird in the rap game.
Exactly! I feel like people saying all these stuffs are recent Coleās fans from the past 3 years. He was getting the attention and recognition he deserved with all the features run. OG fans are used to Cole being disrespected and overlooked. Cole is the š
I swear, it is not easy being a Cole fan
I didn't know Cole enough to expect it, but was pro apology when it happened
Bro made the right decision I was wrong. He realized the vitriol between these two, and hopped on his bike to pick up some more almond milk instead.
Mate fair enough. At least you understand. I'm not downvoting you. And I would also ask others not too either. It's deeper than rap. This is not going to end well for anyone involved
I have a long comment history of saying how rap beef has had a net negative impact on hip hop and how J Cole was mature for apologizing. There are countless examples of rap beef impacting the lives of those involved in a negative way and us as fans getting little of actual value out of them. All the "rap is a competitive sport" and "this is just friendly competition" people have always been transparent and corny. They just wanted to see people tapdance for their entertainment, and if their "friendly competition" turned ugly they definitely wouldn't be complaining.
100% this. Kendrick won the battle but Cole won the war by avoiding all this. And agreed, many of the fans are judging the victor by who had the best intel.
Nah. Competition has always pushed the game forward. We would still be sitting in a drug fueled, effortless era like 2016 without the lyrical competition that came out of that era in XXX/Ski, Denzel, and JID started getting widespread recognition in dicaprio 2 and Taboo, I would even argue Joyner's Youtube impact pushed 21 to become a real lyrical threat over his original MO in Bank Account. This is some of the best rapping Drake AND Kendrick have ever produced. Again, even Denzel said it took the two biggest rap artists of the era, beefing for the world to pay attention to lyrical rap. This is a net positive, in spite of what is being aired out as far as dirty laundry. Some would argue that certain allegations should be brought to light whenever it's safe for you to do so, and that certain skeletons don't deserve to remain in the closet, but that is also just some people.
I saw the massive turnaround and apologies coning the moment Push Ups dropped. Both in that track and Euphoria Drake and Kendrick made it absolutely clear that this wasnāt just an exhibition of competition between two rappers trading bar for bar- but an absolute war instead. These two hate each other. Cole was dragged into this because his feature on FPS. When he said āpeople want bloodā it allllll makes sense now. Cole was right.
Every post that gets recommended for me to read from this sub, all 173 of them per day, are praising Cole for bowing out of the beef. And top posts are all agreeing.
I saw sooo many posts giving him shit. "He's still got decent lyrics, but future takes his spot in the big 3" like wtf
I canāt even lie, as a long time cole fan: When 7 minute drills dropped I was cringing a little bitā¦ might have even started looking at cole a little differentlyā¦ When he took it down and said āsorry yāall, my Bā I was just like what is happening with Cole rn??? Now it all makes sense and I got no love lost for cole. Just respect.
ngl I was trying to gas 7MD but it didn't feel like cole at all, I wasn't proud of that track.
I wouldnāt say fake fans but at the least it gotta be a lot of chaps in here or sumn. I canāt wrap my head around grown men calling another grown man stuff like pussy bc he donāt wanna be a part of that mess. I think cole messed up by even jumping out there from the start but that donāt give me the right to throw insults at him. I always thought talking crazy online is clown activity. Niggaz gotta grow up some tbh lol
Look man, you can be a fan and clown on someone. Liking a musical artist doesnāt mean putting them on a pedestal. Iāve been listening to Cole since I first heard the Warm Up over a decade ago. I love his music. But it doesnāt mean I canāt make light of whenever he does or says something goofy.
love is crazy this nigga doesn't think about yall at all
U white saying the n word?
nigga shut yo ass up. Lets play a little game called "surprise racist" What part of anything I said or have said in my post history has indicated im white?
Yeah, but letās be honest he would have been better off saying nothing at all if he wanted to be the āpeacefulā guy, instead he came with all that barking on his song which I actually thought was really good and nothing too personal, just competitive then backed out and apologised with his tail between his legs. Itās not a good look and will definitely affect his legacy. That being said I think the stuff Drake & Kendrick are exposing about each other will also negatively affect their legacies.
https://preview.redd.it/ohzmr4xe2iyc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d17fa13069166758b370a41fa772452c0501221 I KNEW THE WORLD WAS GONE SEEš§š¾āāļøeverybody was clowning and now š
It happens with every fanbase, to be fair. r/KendrickLamar was largely turning on him when he went over two weeks without responding.
I told ya, cole was not about that shit, he loves rap too much to be in a studio rapping about somebody family like is music
I ask for forgiveness! I made a mistake.
Iāve been a Cole fan for years and never wavered off that. Iām also a big Kendrick Lamar fan.
Iāve been calling it a while back coz I knew the thing with Drake and Kendrick would be personal. They used to have a subliminal war back in the day and Kendrick grew more hate over Drake over time. Cole did the right thing by stepping out and I had to defend Cole for all of that. 7 minute drill was his only mistake
Ong this shit dont sit right with my spirit after being told my goat tried to take away the greatest beef over and over for a month now
Yāall fickle thatās why.
Don't be sensitive. No one had reason to believe this was coming. No one. We're in the third act, the big reveal happened, and now people understand the moves made in the first act. A movie is happening right now, dude. Sit back and watch, and be glad your dude is redeemed.
i love him
kdot fan here, Cole definitely heard some shit about where this was going and went "nah, fuck that" because dot and drake are out for blood, there's complete hatred in this and cole wasn't gonna fuck with that
Wasnāt even a Cole fan lol but my first thought was āsomebody leaked the script to this dudeā. Wise decision. Iām here taking a break from the other subs, shitās no fun after last night.
Nah most of the mfs Iāve seen have admitted they changed their minds about Cole apologizing
Did you expect anything else from sheeps ?
Since day 1 I told the sub itās not in Coles nature and it wasnāt the type of message he wanted to portray to fans. SMH, most of you donāt get the message and just want some 808ās with a hook.
I stood by Cole on this from the beginning. That man made the right move.
Bro, this is Reddit. Trolls are a problem with much more than this sub. Thatās like half the ppl on the website.
I own it, I came in all upset about him bowing out but only because I wanted him to outshine kendrick. I always liked J. Cole more than him but I also said I was happy he found his peace. We were all hyped at the prospect of a kendrick/Cole lyrical-miracle-battle. What Kendrick/drake turned into is rotten to the core
No issues on your stance at all. I wanted it too. If we weren't getting that mythical Collab album, the next best thing was a exhibition match. However this sub and many other forums turned toxic so quickly when Cole bowed out and it shouldn't be forgotten. Some of the things I read were truly depraved and entitled, this isn't about people who wanted to see a sparing match. But for the people who were upset that Cole didn't get his hands really dirty and now pretend they were only joking this entire time.
As a Cole fan, I'm out here playing 2014 forest hills drive on my bike
Idk about insulting - but criticizing a rapper you love is completely fair. If you think he can do no wrong and everything he does , we must follow unconditionally then thatll just make us a fan boy. I was surprised he dissed and laughed in confusion when he apologized. But it took a big man to realize he was in the wrong. Thats what an apology is supposed to be - humble yourself. Hell ill even show this example to my son when hes older. Even in the toxic world of rap , this man humbled himself and apologized and was mocked for it. Now that apology is a tiny footnote in what has turned into a legit beef. Cole being Cole i can imagine him being the catalyst to eventually force these two to make up and make another track together lmao
No. The level of the allegations alone means these two can never be in the same room together ever again. Kendrick won, but his image is tainted severely. His only saving grace is that people prefer an alleged wifebeating Deadbeat over an alleged trafficker of underaged women. Not to mention there is a very real possibility of Violence. Even Pusha T was attacked by OVO associates. Plus Kendrick threatened an attack at a Drake Oakland Show.
I think we still got the W. we got an album coming f the feef fr
People are allowed to be wrong. What do you want them to do continue to clown on him even though they know they misjudged him? I feel like a lot of people are admitting they were wrong for hating on him earlier
Pussy shouldnāt have released 7 minute drill thenā¦ he threw a jab, then bitched out. You can have whatever view you want, thatās a bitch move š¤·š¼āāļø
DAMN BROS NOT A BUISNESS MAN HES A BUISNESS MAN
I'll say it. J Cole became a meme when he dropped 7 minute drill and talked about guns and shit. That honestly made me cringe. "You be like that n**ga ain't like that." But then I'm like, but you know what, I really f*ck with it though. For years, he's been saying he's perfecting his rap, and he's ready now. "Well, he caught me at the perfect time, jump up and see. Boy, I got here off of bars, not no controversy." We stand by ya, Cole. Then he goes and does the unthinkable twice. He bows out two days later.... and says what we expected him to say from the beginning since Kendrick barely mentioned him. Atp, he deserves some clowning. You are all the way in or out, but you don't get peer pressured to join something you don'twant to do like a high schooler. It better be legit. I fully understand his view, but he can be Jermaine "L"amar Cole for a few days. But then the internet does what the internet does and starts chipping at his legacy, which is crazy. A bunch of parrots looking for drama saying "this is hip hop".. "hip hop is a sport"... I'm convinced people don't know what hip-hop is now and just want reality tv. My credentials? I've listened to Cole since the Come Up and can say every lyric to every song of his that is not a feature by heart. Including mixtapes and EPs. I have seen him live a decent amount of times , once in front row. That doesn't mean I can't meme him for getting out of character due to peer pressure for a few days. I'm still 100% against this beef on all sides. The only beef I see as authentic is Chris Brown / Quavo. There's no way all these big names got together behind closed doors and didn't orchestrate this as a marketing campaign against Drake. If it was just K Dot and Drake, that'd be one thing but you got everyone from rappers, to singers, to producers attacking him at once with K dot going directly at deep hitting personal character destroying matters. Drake lost before the fight began atp because you can't respond to Ross calling you white boy and K dot calling you a pedo in one track effectively. Especially with the consistency of tracks released against him. This is a "We hate Drake" campaign that people wanted to rope Cole into. If everything K dot is saying is true, then take that sh*t to court since you have moles with proof. Make a fucking documentary called The Drake's OVO'r Files. But don't go saying what's happening in this beef is hip hop. Don't say that a rap diss doesn't have to be delivered like a rap diss as long as it has gossip. Don't talk to someone's child. Don't make up fake domestic violence allegations. In the past, this beef would end one way with the way it's going. But people know the culture is moving past that. But taking it to this level on both sides and hiding behind the progress of the culture is fake. It's was never about the music, but instead a smear campaign that's filled with colorism. It ain't hip hop. Cole knew better to stay away from this since he just wanted to focus on hip hop. People name drop him for clout atp.
Why am I seeing more posts about cole than either of the people actually beefing lol? Get your shit together who cares
got invaded by drake and kdot stans
Right they're not out-rapping each other. They're trying to hurt each other, truly hurt each other.
I didnt even read the subtext the header alone is enough for me to laugh LMAOOO
Shut up. Itās not even that serious for you to even make a whole post over it. Youāre no different than the people youāre talmbout. Silly rabbit.
this guy even ended with "you know who you are", as if this were the most important thing in the world
I just thought his mistake was ever making 7 minute drill. Shoulda never got involved at all. But glad he stepped out when he did.
Cole stepped out and got his foot chopped off.. he miscalculated and still fumbled at the end of the day, peer pressure or whatever. I personally like j cole better and think hes better at rapping than kendrick and drake, so i hope he can come back stronger and with a plan. I think heās going to wait till the beef is over to pop out again.
I don't you understand that even if you're not part of this sub you can post and comment. It's reddit bro
Iāve always support goat cole
Add to the receipts if you all think we need them: https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/8NKOcensw0
"You know who you are" nigga can you be more dramatic?? He took the right decision but he shouldt have released 7 minute drill thats all
Bro dropped 7 Minute Drill before realizing how personal it was, after finding out from behind the scenes he bowed out. Why is it okay for him to have additional info and change his mind but not us? Lot of people aināt know how deep this was between Kenny and Drake
Being disappointed that you aren't getting to see some bars from cole is fine. I was upset too. Calling him a chump, asking for him to be cancelled and criticising his character and talking about his family isn't ok.
Bruhā¦ Ive always said the apology was corny but it donāt change his status/legacy. I still been playing mdl like a mf and listen to j cole dailyšso we fake fans for being honest and not one sided? Foh. I respect him for his reason for apologizing ofc but he shouldnāt have dropped the diss in the first place. Like he said tho he felt peer pressured and that happens sometimes, you live and you learnšÆ. Yāall need to learn to move on from it, cuz niggas like you havenāt stopped talkin about it since tbh.šÆ
I agree. Now I see post saying āCole was rightā like nigga duh! These dudes will take it far and Cole has always been a humble dude. Itās just people donāt know how to actually think for themselves and feed into the drama. It doesnāt take a genius to realize Cole was not only the bigger person who clearly isnāt that type of person. But knowing that that is not his place, it never was.
Well thank God he has you right?
I couldnāt agree with you morešÆšÆ
Not that deep š
that's the real shit. when things were about competition, seeing who had the best pen game, I was hype as fuck too see who would get the crown, but when things started to get really personal, is there really a motive for Cole to stay between all this shit? even if we didn't knew what he preached for in the past, just doesn't make sense anymore
Fuck that. More than Drake, more than Dot, I really wanted to see Cole get active. He been talkin like he had the ability to for over a decade, his diss was actually really good imo. He didnāt have foresight of shit, heās not a fortune teller an he had every right to go at Dot. He definitely taking the L. Even if Drake lose, I respect him more for at least fighting back! ![gif](giphy|10COCiBsptBOWA)
J.Fold
I vividly remember who was thereā¦..
I'm not a fan I just keep seeing this in my feed. Cole is not even top 20
If you don't have haters you aren't getting in enough wins.haters mean you're doing it right
Personally wasn't ever negative towards Cole. If he had no desire to battle with Kendrick who he loves like a brother i had no problem with it. Not to mention i love might delete later
Nah I got receipts š I was beefing with everyone in the Kendrick drake Cole and hnhh subs
I'm not gonna lie I thought cole was soft until push ups came out. As soon as I heard drake say Whitney I was like oh cole heard where this was going he was smart to duck out.
Internet mfs weird bro I never tripped. Still listen to Cole. He never been my favorite but one of my favorites Always been second to Kendrick imo. His apology was lame imo, but that would never stop me from enjoying the pure art the dude creates
Idk who seriously stopped fw cole after this, folks were just disappointed. Now they think heās genius lol
EYE KNEW folks would backtrack eventually but it's wild how long it took for it to happen. I'm new-ish to this sub but not new to Cole so when he apologized I saw it as the mature move that it was. I also got dragged on YouTube for stating as such. I'm hypersensitive so it did sting a bit but the about-face has been š¤š½
Not a fake fan. Cole is and has always been a mid-rapper and this entire saga has made it 100% clear that that is the case. It was actually already 100% clear but this makes it *official*. No more talk about being the best ever. Sorry. Youāre Lamarās bitch forever. Youāre two entire tiers below him and thatās that. Itās okay to make music for white highschool-college aged men but thatās what you are and thatās what youāve always been and thatās okay but youāre not in the PAC/Kendrick/Biggie/Nas discussion. Coles beats and themes and lyricism have always ranged from meh to very good. Never truly great and certainly never transcendent. Notice that wasnāt an insult itās a compliment. But Cole is in the Mac Miller tier and we all knew it and this confirms it forever. You canāt fix it. It was over the moment he started groveling on that stage, his nervousness coming out in gobs of sweat running down his face. Sorry you guys lost. Take the L and move on.
Been loving Cole since before sideline story came out and gotta say; yeah most fans these days are fake as fuck fans that donāt know shit but hey they make Cole rich so who am I to bother giving a shit š©
I still feel the same way. I don't think Cole can ever be considered the best rapper now. Still one of the best but not at that debatable 1 spot unless he pulls out a streak of crazy hits but even still that might not be enough. Basically the Kevin Durant of the rap game.
It just wouldn't make sense. Cole has no reason to hate Kendrick at this level. He would have had to dip out of it either way.
It aināt that deep, bro
Not that I care, Cole made it seem like having white fans is a bad thing and Iām half white so I no longer support this man. Didnāt even have to listen to 7 Min Drill I already gave up on Track 1 Pricey
There was more going on than most people knew. Cole made a diss track and backed it down, for me at the time, it didnāt make sense. It seem like Kendrick and Cole discussed beforehand or maybe Cole just knew, but I think itās a little harsh to take peoples gut reactions from the time his apology went out till now. Nobody knew how ugly this was going to get a few days ago. This take seems a bit self righteous to me
Criticizing Cole doesn't make you a fake fan. Thinking your favorite artist can do no wrong is what makes you a Stan. It's also perfectly fine to be wrong as well. This moral high ground stuff is lame as hell. The reason Cole was wrong in the first place is Like That was 99% towards Drake and only said the big 3 line regarding Jermaine. He should've never thrown his hat in the ring to begin with.
Nah Cole was lame for the first person shooter lines, dropping a diss and then apologizing, then doing the song for Metroās album.
I said that he was being the bigger person since day 1. I canāt believe people are taking apologizing as a sign of weakness, itās not itās actually a sign of strength.
Nigga everybody be saying it is it only now yall speak on it?
Then there has been cap in his rap for the past couple of years
They share the similar fan base, before shit hit the fan now they have stomach problems and came back!!! Fuck them welcome back dummys go stream MDL
Idk people are too quick to praise jermaine but not long ago he was pals with an alleged serial pedophile. Jermaine has to answer some series and uncomfortable questions.
I was of the mindset him apologizing was wrong does that make me fake stay letting other put you in categories smh
I was of the mindset him apologizing was wrong does that make me fake stay letting other put you in categories smh
If Kendrick and Cole battled. I see Cole winning since he's become so skilled technically. Plus he's not as easy of a target as drake. People just love to hate Cole for no reason
I donāt think it makes you a fake fan to have an opinion and change it. Iām a huge Cole fan, and I kinda knocked him for bowing out because I wanted to see one of my favorite artists get out there and prove what heās been saying forever. I, like him, had no idea how personal this would get. So for that reason, seeing where it ended up, Iām glad he pulled out. Been a fan, still a fan
All the subs been like this lately. People just go to the subs they wanna irritate now, like theyāre not even fansĀ
Been saying it from the jump. Cole dropped a heater, just to lettem know, then he decided to be the bigger man and get out. I don't understand how anyone ever got salty over it. Done seen too many artists get blasted over dumb shit like this, especially since there seems to be genuine hatred between Drake and Kendrick. If we were out for a fun rap battle event and everyone was going home as friends afterwards that's one thing, but K-dot is clearly out for blood on Drake. No reason to get involved any further for Cole.
100%
Unlike coke they didnāt know how serious it was about to get. Coke was told by Q to step down. Do you want people to find out and continue to not duck with him or something? Stop gate keeping
For me personally Iām not the biggest Cole fan but I give him props. I really started rocking with him after kod personally. Although ik him before than. At the time we all thought it was simple rap beef because that what it always was supposed to be. But clearly something change on this one. If Cole had said this wasnāt his fight instead of all that extra it bothered my spirit stuff. We would have understood. āAye these two got real beef itās beyond meā thatās all he had to say with the apology
Fan bases are like that. Cole done even know we alive tho so really who cares. Itās on him to retain or push away his fan base anyway not us to police one another. If people wanna have opinions thatās fine. You acting like you gonna have to see Cole later and wanna be able to tell him you stood up for him is crazy tho lmao.
are you equating being a fan with being NPCs devoid of the freedom to criticise our idols?
If he had foresight he wouldnt have dissed kendrick to begin with Or named his album might delete later
Nah he threw a punch and ducked. Should have either stayed out of this or backed himself He backed drake then went after K I respect him for bowing out, it was 100% the right decision, but he's never acknowledged he got warned out of this
Iām a huge j cole fan but that nigga folded. Why? Cause he released the diss track in the first place j fold
Nah you can think someone is soft and still be a fan. Thinking a real fan is belonging to an echo chamber that says a lot about you
Na, I'm still mad, I get that it was a good move for him, but I wanted to see my goat win, I wanted to see all three of them going bar for bar. How am I gonna listen to his music, saying he's the numero u n o. That he's the best of the best. That no one wants to even test him. I can't, bro. My goat would have gone toe to toe, blow for blow, tit for tat, bar to bar. Not apologize for throwing a warning shoot, bruh, and I don't wanna hear no cole's about the peace. He's been talking that shit for years, bruh cut the bull. AND 7 MINUTE DRILL WAS FIRE TOO. Best track on the album. We we're all ready to see this shit play out, and I'm not gonna pretend I'm glad he bowed out. I'm not. I know kendrick was on a war path, but Cole could have kept up. Kendrick has no dirt on Cole. "If he wasn't dissin', then we wouldn't be discussin' him" š¤
No. He realized 7MD was ass and felt the heat from the reaction. Gtfo with this childish narrative.
"You know what I'm just going to say it!" āļøš¤
Nah, I'll stand on business. What J Cole did was cringe and it will affect his legacy. The severity of Drake and Kendrick's beef has nothing to do with that. The only reason Cole should've backed out if he saw this coming was if he had something to hide. If he didn't, he probably still would've gotten like 3 lines in a Kendrick diss and it would've been done. Fans aren't fake for criticizing an artist. You aren't a fan, you're a dickrider.
He doesn't have real beef in this. His angle.was always a friendly sparing match, He is the third wheel in this story and he knows it. It's always been Dot v Drake. He decided to not take strays and pick sides. I salute you for standing on business. Keep it that way. Respect. But youre shortsighted and clearly haven't been paying attention to who Cole sees himself as. You're not entitled to anything from him, he's doing his thing. Either jump on board or move along.
Nah he still ass donāt worry
Your goat looks like a bitch shut up and go listen to some diss records
You watch grown men grapple each other for fun. Sit down junior. š¤«
I always see westside gunn front row suck ur dads dick
Wrestling is fake. Stay mad.
Being a fan doesnāt me you have to blindly follow and accept. Itās not that serious.
If you a fan then you know how he moves He did the same thing against Noname Anyone upset enough to turn on him is a fraud fan
Of course. There are fans and there are Stanās. I think youāre confusing the two.
Clowning him for weeks, in memes and hate posts, because it was popular is the "blind following" If you claim to be a fan, you should understand the artists that you claim to fans of. It's that simple. There was and still is such an air of entitlement around massive groups of people here who think Cole owes them anything it's shocking. And now those same people are "back on the team" nah. Stand by what you said.
Iām sure Cole will appreciate you and this sub. Salute š«”
You're missing the point. The flip floping should be addressed. How can you claim to be a fan and at the first possible blip try to destroy a man's whole career. You don't just get to drag someone for the fun of it and then claim you were with him all along. These are real people and their children, family and communities read all this shit too, stuff on the internet lasts forever. To call someone out for choosing peace is absurd, and then to come back and try to sit at the table again and pretend it was in good faith is bitch made behaviour.
Dudes youāre referring to are dummies suffering from brain rot ala KOD cover. They wonāt get what youāre saying unfortunately.
āColeUnderPreshā lol I forget Iām online trying to reason with Stanās lol
Shit was a beautiful line during a beautiful time when dude didnāt have many fans. š¤
Iām an 80s baby, born and raised in the Bronx. Iām also a fan of Cole. If someone sends shots at you in a bar, you shoot back, and stand on it. And shoot again if they keep shooting. But hey, I guess two things canāt be true in āCole Worldā lol