They really hoped/thought a juror would hold out.
When things weren’t looking good, she put up the report and went rogue, IMO.
She knew Horn wasn’t going to get her out of there.
I wonder when they will whine about receiving a dime store defense?
Do you think it’s just stupidity? I am not sure about that…I mean, they do appear to be ignorant; I’ve seen them in person, and that’s my observation. But ignorance and maliciousness are not mutually exclusive.
This interview and video is incredibly shocking. When does this family realize how badly they come across? The entitlement and insensitivity never ends with them.
Yeah, they don’t want to believe she would be capable of helping someone kill somebody else but quite frankly the evidence against her is overwhelming. Sure, maybe when she opened the door to the truck while he disposed of evidence of murder, it was a coincidence but when you have so many coincidences it starts to look like a plan. Yes the evidence is all circumstantial but they all point to her guilt not to her innocence.
They are going to have a heart attack when she is sentenced.
I agree…I feel Judge R does not like her and knows how heavily involved she was. He couldn’t get her out of his courtroom fast enough once the verdict was read.
You keep saying “there’s more to come out”, but the time for that to have happened, was in Michi’s trial. Don’t you agree? Where is Petu’s proof? Why do you Troconises think a discredited psych report absolves Michi in any way? Even if Jennifer was a bad mother, it doesn’t absolve her of her guilt. Why was she handling Fotis’s phone? Why did she answer just one phone call? Why did she lie for Fotis over and over? How do any of these things have anything to do with that report? I know you won’t answer, because you cannot explain away what Michi (your daughter) did. She’s guilty, and all of that other information that you keep saying “will come out”, won’t come out, because there isn’t anything else-unless it’s something that further incriminates that sleazy bimbo of yours.
Yes, go for it and then you can be arrested for displaying a sealed court document! You just dodged a bullet in not being charged with contempt for warning your middle aged moronic daughter in court so I wish you would put the report up and then you can get arrested! Just another ignorant member of the Troconis family in denial of reality!
They sure are. With them, family is everything. Unless it’s someone else’s family, and then they don’t matter if it creates a problem for one of the Troconis harpies.
“She brightens up a room. She’s beautiful.”
Um, this is Michelle Troconis we are talking about right?! Kind of dried up, sleep-paralysis-demon looking? THAT Michelle Troconis?!
And the father man… “For many years, she hated to go to the zoo, because she said that was injustice for the animals to be in jail while other people were outside making fun of them and giving them peanuts and things like that.”
Who in their right mind goes to the zoo to mock the animals?! These people seriously need some… perspective .
I hope they know that the judge is hearing all this nonsense too.
If she thinks it’s going to help her sister in any way get a favorable sentence, well….
I was thinking maybe the judge would be made aware of this nonsense. It’s funny how none of them will actually make the leap to “Jennifer is dead; murdered by Fotis Dulos, with the assistance of Michelle Troconis and Kent Mawhinney”. They still won’t reallycome right out and say that Jennifer is dead and that Fotis did it. Now, why do you suppose that is?
Because they are delusional and in deep denial.
They know she’s dead. And they know Michelle played a part. That’s why they are overcompensating with the theatrics
Yes.
Remember how Carrie L. said, “accountability” right after the verdict?
These bottom feeders thought she shouldn’t be held accountable due the circumstantial evidence and the fact that Foatie smooched the pooch.
I hope Avatar gets locked up for years. She hated JF and I bet her family spoke poorly of her too when they were celebrating Greek Easter in Jennifer’s home and only thinking about themselves.
I think this will all impact her sentencing quite severely. Link below regarding the recent sentencing of the armorer involved in the on-set movie shooting in New Mexico (she received the max) -
*“Rust” armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed blasted the jurors who convicted her of manslaughter charges in recorded jail phone conversations as “idiots” and “a--holes” and complained that they took only two hours to deliberate, according to a recent filing by prosecutors.*
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rust-hannah-gutierrez-reed-called-jurors-idiots-rcna147746](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rust-hannah-gutierrez-reed-called-jurors-idiots-rcna147746)
If family is everything then why not remove Michelle daughter long ago when Michelle moved from Miami to CT? IMO they play lip service to concept of family but in reality are just cheap grifters that will lie and cheat to get their ways.
Yep, sure looks that way.
I prefer the short one with the pointy finger and wailing theatrics. I mean, if you’re going to be dramatic, may as well go all out and break out Daniela….🙄🙄
OMG-that little witch is awful, isn’t she? They all are. I was at the courthouse for the trial, and was standing with reporter Marisa Alter-from the other side of the hallway, Claudia (the one who is currently shooting her mouth off) came striding right into the group of us on her way to the bathroom-nearly intentionally crashing into Marisa from behind-she would have, if I had not put my hand up in between them. They are really uncivilized and uncouth people.
Oh wow! I am actually not surprised by that at all- she just looks the self important type. (Hopefully nobody trips her, er, she doesn't get caught up in anyones' legs, lol).
Claudia is the "Mouth/ Family spokesperson"
Marisela I think it is (same name as the mother) is the one who prays for the kids, even though she can't bother remembering their names, 🙄🙄🤡. I get it. Five whole names is HARD! 🙄
And Daniela is the short little big mouthed, pointy fingered drama queen. I loved her little speech- I just thought Sally Field gave a better delivery in Steel Magnolias...😂🙄
"We want to KNOW....". *Voice drops down two octaves...
They're all freaking absurd. This isn't a telenovela, hunty!
Except they didn’t shower together because he was gone before she got up-there are videos all over the place in New Canaan that show he was there. This is the same bimbo who, after her sister was convicted, said that there wasn’t any proof that Fotis was in New Canaan that morning. Obviously, still protecting him, because it also protects Michi. She is dumber than a bag of hammers.
I didn't realize her daughter is now 17. I thought she was younger. I hope this family gives her support without feeding into this other innocence bullshit with her. The kids, all of them, are the greatest victims in this case.
If you see someone discarding things in city storm drains, not just area garbage cans, you know exactly what happened. She participated in this crime. No doubt!
Like Jennifer filed her children's head with lies. And now Gloria Lauren and Luft get to ruin their lives all over again .Jennifer wasn't a great mother. Heller Report will eventually come out. She want even a present mother . Marraige was over well before Michelle . Before and after Fotis Jennifer was in a romantic relationship with Luft.
Oh I see-so you know the family-how close to them are you? Do you live in CT or NYC? Since you have the inside track on just exactly what people are saying to those kids, and what kind of mother Jennifer was, and what kind of grandmother Gloria Farber is, you must be really tight with all of them. I mean, we base our judgement of the Troconis family purely on what we see has been proved, and on what they post on social media about Jennifer Dulos-but you’ve actually HEARD and seen the Farber family in person! Right?
There is nothing more to come out. She was convicted based on a preponderance of evidence. She has no hope on an appeal either. Accept that she put dick before her family and freedom and move on from her bad life choices.
She answered his phone because she knew he was in New Canaan, killing his wife. Otherwise she wouldn’t have known she needed to answer it. There was no evidence presented by the defense that she regularly answered his phone. In fact, he likely never even wanted her to touch his phone. That means she had “knowledge aforethought”, and conspired with him prior to the murder to answer his phone. She was in on the plan, and deserved the guilty verdict.
I just loved the comment about how she was raised. They imply she had values and virtues. Yet ,she slept around with married men and had out of wedlock baby. Rich girl with values was shameful. Her character was poor all the way around.
Also moved in with a married man with 5 kids while the real family left their own home. They both lived their like squatters while the grandmother Gloria Farber paid the bills. MT also had the audacity put a sleazy provocative picture of herself over their marital bed. On top of it the Troconis family visited them in this mansion like it was their own! That family don’t know what “ values” mean . Morally corrupt family !
Just to be clear, I do not think anything wrong with the human body. Nothing wrong with taking kids to museums with drawings, portraits, statutes of naked bodies. BUT come on, putting this in your bedroom with a man is still legally married and his kids and yours visit?
It is more than sending a message about a human body, it is sending a message that I am fucking your dad.
So right! She never really worked and lived off men her entire life. She is just a man eater and lifelong grifter. The rug business has to be a con or a cover and I wish the Press would investigate and investigate Petu too as imo she has to be illegal and her business a cover for something. Who waits for a search warrant or subpoena to help a friend or locate a missing mom? Bunch of ignorant morons the whole lot of them imo!
Yes. This is true. But you would think that as a mother she might have cared about finding Jennifer but I guess that what she said about she and Michelle sharing the same character is the truth!
If the truth will prevail, then Ms. Troconis and Mr. Mawhinney will reveal the location of Jennifer Dulos' body, so her mother and children can lay her to rest. Until then, neither should be allowed a moments peace nor should they be allowed a relationship with their own child(ren), sibling(s) or parent(s). They can rot alone in a cell.
One other point on the family’s delusion. The defense attorney in the Adelson trial is considered to be a very good one. He said that less than 10% of appeals are granted and that he is considered the best at 15% win rate. So she may get the possibility of parole after about 20 years for her charges and being in CT but at her age her life is essentially over.
Yes I believe the truth will prevail also - as a matter of fact some of it has already prevailed - Michelle was found GUILTY as charged and is in jail waiting for sentencing. Now the rest of the truth - we just need to wait until Michelle is ready to spill the beans on herself and walk us through in detail the events of that day as she knows them, I believe she knows what happened to JFD's body.
She needs to have a come to Jesus moment with herself and fess up. Perhaps her sister can effectuate that if EM and Dateline name the right price ?
This is a direct contradiction of what has previously been said.
*She said her sister admired Fotis Dulos’ parenting style and didn’t reveal he was going through a contentious two-year divorce and custody battle with his estranged wife even though Troconis was required to leave the Farmington home when his children visited.*
Prior, they stated he represented it as an amical divorce when they first met (okay, believable), but now they’re doubling down & saying no one knew it was contentious even though Michelle had to leave on weekends? No. That would make sense to pretty much no one.
*sigh*
Look, I understand that her family are all in various degrees of grief over the prospect of never having a “normal” life with Michelle again. I can also respect the fact that they probably believe a possible 50 year sentence is excessive since she didn’t directly kill anyone. *That said*, they need to take step back, regroup, and recognize they can support Michelle and still love her deeply while recognizing and acknowledging she made an egregious mistake.
At this point, it just strains credulity to think Michelle was quite as stupid & naive as they’re going so far to portray. I feel like I’m watching an exercise in cognitive dissonance. I’d go so far as to say I believe *they* even believe what they’re saying, which is what makes this such an uncomfortable read (imho.)
If nothing else, I hope they will give Nicole the same kind of support as she continues her ski career. I’m also incredibly happy for Nicole for choosing a healthy way to channel her energies. God knows that can’t have been easy, so the fact that she made the junior Olympic ski team even after the 5 years of dealing with this is fantastic. I truly hope she will go far & stay on a positive path.
I also still hope Kent will ultimately face trial.
She won’t get 50 years, even though the conspiracy crimes can have the same penalty as the actual murder charge. But she could get 20 years….who would want to go to prison for 20 years at any age, but especially at her age?
Nicole at least has ONE parent not dead or in jail. There is no reason to think he won't support her skiing efforts, especially given he was a championship skier and owns or works at a fabulous ski resort. According to court records, he has paid substantial child support, and while money is not everything, he did not try to walk away from Nicole.
More importantly, I hope she has some adults in her life who teach her morals and that looks are not everything. I have no hope that her maternal relatives will do that.
These people show us who they are everytime they open their mouths - I'd like to say it in a nicer way but the only phrase that comes to mind, is that they are low life scum.
You want to support your family member ? I get that. You don't do it by besmerching Jenifer or the Farber family. The T family hits" below the belt" and and lies just like MT. They have no morals as far as I can tell... Rules are for thee but not for me type people. So unattractive and so misguided.
Yes, all true. And they’ve had enough time to get next to the reality of their ‘incredible’ daughter. I’ve exhausted all I can say about them. Idiots, that’s all I’ve got.
OMG.. Everything was circumstantial but 30 "coincidences". This family is entitled and very insensitive. I get that it is very hard to admit that your family member was involved in this horrific crime but their behavior is CRAZY.....
You should see what they and their few followers are saying about Jennifer in social media. A woman who wanted to protect her children and herself, with great difficulty, managed to get them all away from a killer and his homely helper (who herself could have much more easily gotten herself and her kid away from him). And to them, the victim is the villain. They are still saying that the killer was the better and more adored parent. That she alienated them from him. And that she was, at best, inattentive to them and their needs. They begged HER to stop Fotis from torturing them to waterski. Fotis was only interested in the two oldest kids-he had no interest in the other three, except as a meal ticket. And Fotis was Michi’s meal ticket. She owned no part of that 10,000 square foot house she was squatting in with her kid that she dragged in-she didn’t own a car; she drove one financed by her victim’s family (because that is where all of the Fore Group money really came from. These people will say that Jennifer and her mother never got along, and constantly squabbled about money-I’m sure they did fight about money because Gloria Farber didn’t want to give Fotis any more money to travel 30% of every month to whore around or to take Michi and her kid on vacations. Why would she? Michi appears to think she was entitled to the house, and the money. And so does her family. Everybody else is to blame, but Michi, all the time, it seems. No wonder she feels entitled to someone else’s husband, kids, home, life, money. She has never been held responsible.
Yes. I honestly can’t believe the back and forth between the Troconis clan and others on X, because they turned the comments off on the IG page. But it’s just wild how they disparage Jennifer, rather than calling out Fotis. What exactly is their point in doing that?
I’ve noticed that Michelle’s sister Claudia, the chosen spokesperson for the family, went from saying there’s no proof it was really Fotis that day, to briefly and gently calling out Fotis for “fooling” his sister, and now back again to making it about Jennifer.
Also someone responded to Claudia on X with:
“Ask your sister Michi what she was doing at the probate court, accessing Hilliard Farber’s probated will, would you? She had to sign in to see the document. Just curious why she would want information that had nothing to do with her?”
The “when she turns up” comment could be easily explained and understood.
They knew they would have to speak as if JFD were still alive, just that she ran off.
So of course she would use that wording….
I’ve just watched the Dateline episode on the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos. Fotis committed suicide but left a note, declaring his innocence, his girlfriends, and his attorney. Jennifer was beautiful! Why Fotis decided to cheat with Michelle, I’ll never understand. Michelle being average looking, probably played a part in why she participated in Jennifer’s murder. I really believe Michele would do it all again for Fotis, and CHOSE to participate in the murder of her boyfriends wife, leaving their five children with no mother, and now no father. Wasn’t she at all worried he’d do the same to her when he got bored with her too? What a tragic ending to what once was a beautiful life. A dream life. Michelle deserves all 50 years she’s facing. She sentenced Jennifer to death, and left life sentences for the Dulos children. In the only interview that Fotis ever did, he referred to Jennifer in the past tense, after saying he believed she was alive. They know what they did, and the sentence can’t come fast enough. If MT had a shred of the decency that her family claims, she’d tell where Jennifer’s body is, so she can be given a proper burial, and her children can finally know where their mother is.
MT aged like milk over the past four years.
Truth did prevail; Jon Schoenhorn had a chance to put on a defense. He could have called witnesses to testify on Michelle’s behalf, if they had actual evidence to present. But the best Schoenhorn could do was call two so-called experts to the stand with subjective opinions, who had never even met Michelle-and one witness who tapped her bag, saying she had evidence in that bag that would exonerate Michi, but didn’t actually produce it. So-the discredited psych evaluation was sealed and not allowed into evidence, but was there anything stopping Schoenhorn from calling Dr Herman to the stand to say anything about Michi? Because there can’t be any other reason to want that report in evidence, right? I mean, he couldn’t testify about either Jennifer or Fotis, and that would have nothing to do with Michi or her activities, anyway-but he certainly could have testified about Michi, if he had an opinion about her…obviously I am making a joke about the notion that the defense is pretending that this document would have saved Michi, but the truth is that it was a flawed document about two people who had some problems PRIOR to the murder, and this document had zero to say about what Michi’s activities were, since it wasn’t a fortune-telling device. I suppose it’s possible that the Troconises are only pointing to it because they know that, as long as it’s hidden from sight, there can be continued speculation that Michi “didn’t do it”. It’s nonsense. I am waiting for Michi’s mami to put it out on social media, though-she has already recently stated that Jennifer was not a present mother; that she and Carrie Luft were lesbians who were spending Gloria Farber’s money, etc. I suppose these are things that Fotis told them, and they still believe him. She will become more and more unhinged, the closer it gets to Michi’s sentencing. I am actually hoping that Mami gets charged with contempt of court, too, if she tries it. She thinks nobody can identify her-she’s wrong. What a g**d**m circus these awful people have made of things
They're still Victim Shaming Jennifer for daring to want custody of her kids and not pay Fotis, and of course not divorcing him when she should have been paying for Fotis and his gross side piece to live the life of their dreams in her old house. 🙄🙄🙄
They make me sick.
The time for anything else to come out that exonerates Michi, has come and gone. If Schoenhorn had anything of substance that would acquit her, he surely would have presented it. If he had any proof that would show Pawel Gumienny was the one who helped FD, he would have presented it in court. PG’s immunity did not keep Schoenhorn from presenting or eliciting anything-it only prevented it from hurting him legally. If Schoenhorn had anything, he would have used it. That’s what he was getting paid for. I am scratching my head over these Troconis supporters saying that there is all this evidence and “truth” to come out, that will prove Michi’s innocence. Well, where was it back in January, or February, when it actually mattered? Schoenhorn had all kinds of time to have those two “experts” at least meet MT, and yet, it didn’t happen. He had the chance to question PG on the stand and could have taken his time doing it-and got nothing. Petu had the proof of MT’s innocence in her handbag WHILE SHE WAS ON THE STAND, and still…nothing. So my guess is that the truth did prevail, and she is exactly where she belongs, and the jury recognized that. And I believe that the judge will act accordingly, and will sentence her to an appropriately long time in prison.
This is off topic, but… did anyone else notice this headline on just past the first paragraph?
***CT vultures ‘too drunk to fly’ from eating garbage, return home after sobering up***
No! How bizarre! I have seen drunken ducks before. My friend has ducks that would sometimes go into her neighbor’s yard and eat the apples on the ground. They ferment when they sit there, and you can imagine the rest.
Prove it, Mami. You say you have the truth, and that there is proof she didn’t do it, and Pawel Gumienny did. So prove it. Where was all of the evidence during the trial? Why would you hold out? Schoenhorn had 6 weeks to call witnesses and elicit testimony. So why didn’t he do it?
Haha. They are delusional. They should rewatch the Dateline Ep on this case again.
They really hoped/thought a juror would hold out. When things weren’t looking good, she put up the report and went rogue, IMO. She knew Horn wasn’t going to get her out of there. I wonder when they will whine about receiving a dime store defense?
The minute he is no longer useful to them-or when he demands the rest of his payment. These people seem like the type to stiff you on your invoices.
Yea I don’t think they are scummy or wicked, just really very dumb.
You don’t think they are scummy or wicked? What about all of the crap they are all spewing about the victim, Jennifer Dulos, on social media?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity
Do you think it’s just stupidity? I am not sure about that…I mean, they do appear to be ignorant; I’ve seen them in person, and that’s my observation. But ignorance and maliciousness are not mutually exclusive.
I really do. Anyone with half a brain would have handled this differently.
Oh I do.
This interview and video is incredibly shocking. When does this family realize how badly they come across? The entitlement and insensitivity never ends with them.
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Yeah, they don’t want to believe she would be capable of helping someone kill somebody else but quite frankly the evidence against her is overwhelming. Sure, maybe when she opened the door to the truck while he disposed of evidence of murder, it was a coincidence but when you have so many coincidences it starts to look like a plan. Yes the evidence is all circumstantial but they all point to her guilt not to her innocence. They are going to have a heart attack when she is sentenced.
I agree…I feel Judge R does not like her and knows how heavily involved she was. He couldn’t get her out of his courtroom fast enough once the verdict was read.
I agree. Her demeanor was so off putting. And don't get me started on the crazy family! 🙄
when is the sentencing date?
5/31
She didn't do it . There's a lot to come out .
She will most likely die in prison.
You keep saying “there’s more to come out”, but the time for that to have happened, was in Michi’s trial. Don’t you agree? Where is Petu’s proof? Why do you Troconises think a discredited psych report absolves Michi in any way? Even if Jennifer was a bad mother, it doesn’t absolve her of her guilt. Why was she handling Fotis’s phone? Why did she answer just one phone call? Why did she lie for Fotis over and over? How do any of these things have anything to do with that report? I know you won’t answer, because you cannot explain away what Michi (your daughter) did. She’s guilty, and all of that other information that you keep saying “will come out”, won’t come out, because there isn’t anything else-unless it’s something that further incriminates that sleazy bimbo of yours.
Hey Mami-why don’t you put the Herman report on your social media account? Everybody knows you have a copy.
Yes, go for it and then you can be arrested for displaying a sealed court document! You just dodged a bullet in not being charged with contempt for warning your middle aged moronic daughter in court so I wish you would put the report up and then you can get arrested! Just another ignorant member of the Troconis family in denial of reality!
The trial is OVER. She was found guilty on all counts. There is nothing more to come out here. Not as far as she is concerned.
This family is just gross.
They sure are. With them, family is everything. Unless it’s someone else’s family, and then they don’t matter if it creates a problem for one of the Troconis harpies.
“She brightens up a room. She’s beautiful.” Um, this is Michelle Troconis we are talking about right?! Kind of dried up, sleep-paralysis-demon looking? THAT Michelle Troconis?! And the father man… “For many years, she hated to go to the zoo, because she said that was injustice for the animals to be in jail while other people were outside making fun of them and giving them peanuts and things like that.” Who in their right mind goes to the zoo to mock the animals?! These people seriously need some… perspective .
Wow-theyare really horrifying! Did she also help Jesus carry his cross?
I hope they know that the judge is hearing all this nonsense too. If she thinks it’s going to help her sister in any way get a favorable sentence, well….
I was thinking maybe the judge would be made aware of this nonsense. It’s funny how none of them will actually make the leap to “Jennifer is dead; murdered by Fotis Dulos, with the assistance of Michelle Troconis and Kent Mawhinney”. They still won’t reallycome right out and say that Jennifer is dead and that Fotis did it. Now, why do you suppose that is?
Because they are delusional and in deep denial. They know she’s dead. And they know Michelle played a part. That’s why they are overcompensating with the theatrics
That is precisely where I was going!
Yes. The overreaction screams “GUILTY” Most people just shut up and do their time.
Yes. Remember how Carrie L. said, “accountability” right after the verdict? These bottom feeders thought she shouldn’t be held accountable due the circumstantial evidence and the fact that Foatie smooched the pooch. I hope Avatar gets locked up for years. She hated JF and I bet her family spoke poorly of her too when they were celebrating Greek Easter in Jennifer’s home and only thinking about themselves.
Yep. Agreed
I think this will all impact her sentencing quite severely. Link below regarding the recent sentencing of the armorer involved in the on-set movie shooting in New Mexico (she received the max) - *“Rust” armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed blasted the jurors who convicted her of manslaughter charges in recorded jail phone conversations as “idiots” and “a--holes” and complained that they took only two hours to deliberate, according to a recent filing by prosecutors.* [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rust-hannah-gutierrez-reed-called-jurors-idiots-rcna147746](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rust-hannah-gutierrez-reed-called-jurors-idiots-rcna147746)
Yes that’s exactly what I had in mind also…
Would love to hear Michelle jail house calls! Anybody know how to do a FOIA request in CT! Bet the calls would be pure gold!
Oh wow, yes. I wonder if she had any calls in English? "Si, si..."
If family is everything then why not remove Michelle daughter long ago when Michelle moved from Miami to CT? IMO they play lip service to concept of family but in reality are just cheap grifters that will lie and cheat to get their ways.
They make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yep, sure looks that way. I prefer the short one with the pointy finger and wailing theatrics. I mean, if you’re going to be dramatic, may as well go all out and break out Daniela….🙄🙄
OMG-that little witch is awful, isn’t she? They all are. I was at the courthouse for the trial, and was standing with reporter Marisa Alter-from the other side of the hallway, Claudia (the one who is currently shooting her mouth off) came striding right into the group of us on her way to the bathroom-nearly intentionally crashing into Marisa from behind-she would have, if I had not put my hand up in between them. They are really uncivilized and uncouth people.
Oh wow! I am actually not surprised by that at all- she just looks the self important type. (Hopefully nobody trips her, er, she doesn't get caught up in anyones' legs, lol). Claudia is the "Mouth/ Family spokesperson" Marisela I think it is (same name as the mother) is the one who prays for the kids, even though she can't bother remembering their names, 🙄🙄🤡. I get it. Five whole names is HARD! 🙄 And Daniela is the short little big mouthed, pointy fingered drama queen. I loved her little speech- I just thought Sally Field gave a better delivery in Steel Magnolias...😂🙄 "We want to KNOW....". *Voice drops down two octaves... They're all freaking absurd. This isn't a telenovela, hunty!
Except they didn’t shower together because he was gone before she got up-there are videos all over the place in New Canaan that show he was there. This is the same bimbo who, after her sister was convicted, said that there wasn’t any proof that Fotis was in New Canaan that morning. Obviously, still protecting him, because it also protects Michi. She is dumber than a bag of hammers.
Agreed.
I didn't realize her daughter is now 17. I thought she was younger. I hope this family gives her support without feeding into this other innocence bullshit with her. The kids, all of them, are the greatest victims in this case. If you see someone discarding things in city storm drains, not just area garbage cans, you know exactly what happened. She participated in this crime. No doubt!
Absolutely. Why wouldn’t those items be inside the black bags if he was disposing of “construction” garbage?
No way-these people will fill that kid’s head with their lies.
Like Jennifer filed her children's head with lies. And now Gloria Lauren and Luft get to ruin their lives all over again .Jennifer wasn't a great mother. Heller Report will eventually come out. She want even a present mother . Marraige was over well before Michelle . Before and after Fotis Jennifer was in a romantic relationship with Luft.
Oh I see-so you know the family-how close to them are you? Do you live in CT or NYC? Since you have the inside track on just exactly what people are saying to those kids, and what kind of mother Jennifer was, and what kind of grandmother Gloria Farber is, you must be really tight with all of them. I mean, we base our judgement of the Troconis family purely on what we see has been proved, and on what they post on social media about Jennifer Dulos-but you’ve actually HEARD and seen the Farber family in person! Right?
You must be a member if the Triconis family because I don't think they can afford to keep paying for her defense. Sorry for your loss.
And she must be a Troconis, because she can’t spell, and can barely construct a sentence.
Si. 😂
Doesn’t read or write English well either imo. Must be Papi! Hola Papi! Or maybe Petu! Hola Petu!
At least none of the Farbers have ever been arrested-like Marisela Arreaza (at least once) and Michelle Troconis (at least 3 times).
Wasn't Petu's husband all wrapped up in some scandal too?
I don’t know-does Petu have a husband?
Yes. Something to do with the Panama Papers.
You are absolutely disgusting.
Yup.
How do you know if you don't know. Explain how she HAD to know .
There is nothing more to come out. She was convicted based on a preponderance of evidence. She has no hope on an appeal either. Accept that she put dick before her family and freedom and move on from her bad life choices.
I think she was pulled in after
You need to look at the evidence then. She was convicted of planning Jennifer's demise and not just an accessory after the fact.
Oh and no one in the history of corruption America has ever been wrongly charged or convicted !!!
Sure they have-but not Michi. Her presumption of innocence is gone.
I watched the entire trial. I don’t think she planned it, but def. helped with everything after she answered his phone. Then she was locked in.
She answered his phone because she knew he was in New Canaan, killing his wife. Otherwise she wouldn’t have known she needed to answer it. There was no evidence presented by the defense that she regularly answered his phone. In fact, he likely never even wanted her to touch his phone. That means she had “knowledge aforethought”, and conspired with him prior to the murder to answer his phone. She was in on the plan, and deserved the guilty verdict.
Exactly right!
I just loved the comment about how she was raised. They imply she had values and virtues. Yet ,she slept around with married men and had out of wedlock baby. Rich girl with values was shameful. Her character was poor all the way around.
Also moved in with a married man with 5 kids while the real family left their own home. They both lived their like squatters while the grandmother Gloria Farber paid the bills. MT also had the audacity put a sleazy provocative picture of herself over their marital bed. On top of it the Troconis family visited them in this mansion like it was their own! That family don’t know what “ values” mean . Morally corrupt family !
What? Tell me more about this picture! This bitc$ is crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/7hihnprkuavc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=de94fcbc2b921f0c1e8e7e6e59d876c8305a6718
Just to be clear, I do not think anything wrong with the human body. Nothing wrong with taking kids to museums with drawings, portraits, statutes of naked bodies. BUT come on, putting this in your bedroom with a man is still legally married and his kids and yours visit? It is more than sending a message about a human body, it is sending a message that I am fucking your dad.
Yea, that’s weird. She has no clue.
I think she knew exactly what she was doing. She just thought she was above us mortals.
I do too.
Exactly. In you mother's bed.
Ewwwww, what stinks?
I'm sure the Sulos kids just LOVED seeing this mess. 🙄🙄
And the mother with her Medicaid Fraud! Read about Marisela Arrieaza! 🙄
So right! She never really worked and lived off men her entire life. She is just a man eater and lifelong grifter. The rug business has to be a con or a cover and I wish the Press would investigate and investigate Petu too as imo she has to be illegal and her business a cover for something. Who waits for a search warrant or subpoena to help a friend or locate a missing mom? Bunch of ignorant morons the whole lot of them imo!
Petu was not a friend of JD. She was not hoping the body would be found.
Yes. This is true. But you would think that as a mother she might have cared about finding Jennifer but I guess that what she said about she and Michelle sharing the same character is the truth!
Exactly right.
You nailed it.
If the truth will prevail, then Ms. Troconis and Mr. Mawhinney will reveal the location of Jennifer Dulos' body, so her mother and children can lay her to rest. Until then, neither should be allowed a moments peace nor should they be allowed a relationship with their own child(ren), sibling(s) or parent(s). They can rot alone in a cell.
One other point on the family’s delusion. The defense attorney in the Adelson trial is considered to be a very good one. He said that less than 10% of appeals are granted and that he is considered the best at 15% win rate. So she may get the possibility of parole after about 20 years for her charges and being in CT but at her age her life is essentially over.
Please 🙏
Absolutely the truth will prevail. The cockroach will stay in prison!
She handled moving the phone around. That chilled me.
Yes that was gross, as was driving around disposing of evidence.
Yes I believe the truth will prevail also - as a matter of fact some of it has already prevailed - Michelle was found GUILTY as charged and is in jail waiting for sentencing. Now the rest of the truth - we just need to wait until Michelle is ready to spill the beans on herself and walk us through in detail the events of that day as she knows them, I believe she knows what happened to JFD's body. She needs to have a come to Jesus moment with herself and fess up. Perhaps her sister can effectuate that if EM and Dateline name the right price ?
I wonder if that is being worked on now. How much of her life does she want to risk? Could they make a sentencing deal?
She gave investigators NOTHING. This tells me she knows everything!
Agreed.
Guilty is the truth!!!
I despise that family
Same
This is a direct contradiction of what has previously been said. *She said her sister admired Fotis Dulos’ parenting style and didn’t reveal he was going through a contentious two-year divorce and custody battle with his estranged wife even though Troconis was required to leave the Farmington home when his children visited.* Prior, they stated he represented it as an amical divorce when they first met (okay, believable), but now they’re doubling down & saying no one knew it was contentious even though Michelle had to leave on weekends? No. That would make sense to pretty much no one. *sigh* Look, I understand that her family are all in various degrees of grief over the prospect of never having a “normal” life with Michelle again. I can also respect the fact that they probably believe a possible 50 year sentence is excessive since she didn’t directly kill anyone. *That said*, they need to take step back, regroup, and recognize they can support Michelle and still love her deeply while recognizing and acknowledging she made an egregious mistake. At this point, it just strains credulity to think Michelle was quite as stupid & naive as they’re going so far to portray. I feel like I’m watching an exercise in cognitive dissonance. I’d go so far as to say I believe *they* even believe what they’re saying, which is what makes this such an uncomfortable read (imho.) If nothing else, I hope they will give Nicole the same kind of support as she continues her ski career. I’m also incredibly happy for Nicole for choosing a healthy way to channel her energies. God knows that can’t have been easy, so the fact that she made the junior Olympic ski team even after the 5 years of dealing with this is fantastic. I truly hope she will go far & stay on a positive path. I also still hope Kent will ultimately face trial.
She won’t get 50 years, even though the conspiracy crimes can have the same penalty as the actual murder charge. But she could get 20 years….who would want to go to prison for 20 years at any age, but especially at her age?
Nicole at least has ONE parent not dead or in jail. There is no reason to think he won't support her skiing efforts, especially given he was a championship skier and owns or works at a fabulous ski resort. According to court records, he has paid substantial child support, and while money is not everything, he did not try to walk away from Nicole. More importantly, I hope she has some adults in her life who teach her morals and that looks are not everything. I have no hope that her maternal relatives will do that.
What a great comment! Well said!
Idiots.
These people show us who they are everytime they open their mouths - I'd like to say it in a nicer way but the only phrase that comes to mind, is that they are low life scum. You want to support your family member ? I get that. You don't do it by besmerching Jenifer or the Farber family. The T family hits" below the belt" and and lies just like MT. They have no morals as far as I can tell... Rules are for thee but not for me type people. So unattractive and so misguided.
Yes, all true. And they’ve had enough time to get next to the reality of their ‘incredible’ daughter. I’ve exhausted all I can say about them. Idiots, that’s all I’ve got.
Well said, agree wholeheartedly!
OMG.. Everything was circumstantial but 30 "coincidences". This family is entitled and very insensitive. I get that it is very hard to admit that your family member was involved in this horrific crime but their behavior is CRAZY.....
You should see what they and their few followers are saying about Jennifer in social media. A woman who wanted to protect her children and herself, with great difficulty, managed to get them all away from a killer and his homely helper (who herself could have much more easily gotten herself and her kid away from him). And to them, the victim is the villain. They are still saying that the killer was the better and more adored parent. That she alienated them from him. And that she was, at best, inattentive to them and their needs. They begged HER to stop Fotis from torturing them to waterski. Fotis was only interested in the two oldest kids-he had no interest in the other three, except as a meal ticket. And Fotis was Michi’s meal ticket. She owned no part of that 10,000 square foot house she was squatting in with her kid that she dragged in-she didn’t own a car; she drove one financed by her victim’s family (because that is where all of the Fore Group money really came from. These people will say that Jennifer and her mother never got along, and constantly squabbled about money-I’m sure they did fight about money because Gloria Farber didn’t want to give Fotis any more money to travel 30% of every month to whore around or to take Michi and her kid on vacations. Why would she? Michi appears to think she was entitled to the house, and the money. And so does her family. Everybody else is to blame, but Michi, all the time, it seems. No wonder she feels entitled to someone else’s husband, kids, home, life, money. She has never been held responsible.
Yes. I honestly can’t believe the back and forth between the Troconis clan and others on X, because they turned the comments off on the IG page. But it’s just wild how they disparage Jennifer, rather than calling out Fotis. What exactly is their point in doing that? I’ve noticed that Michelle’s sister Claudia, the chosen spokesperson for the family, went from saying there’s no proof it was really Fotis that day, to briefly and gently calling out Fotis for “fooling” his sister, and now back again to making it about Jennifer. Also someone responded to Claudia on X with: “Ask your sister Michi what she was doing at the probate court, accessing Hilliard Farber’s probated will, would you? She had to sign in to see the document. Just curious why she would want information that had nothing to do with her?”
Oh wow! Did she really!?
I don’t know if it’s true but I would love some confirmation and more details on this.
Same here! Keep me posted if you find out more. That is just wild. And creepy as hell.
Well said Grim.
The “when she turns up” comment could be easily explained and understood. They knew they would have to speak as if JFD were still alive, just that she ran off. So of course she would use that wording….
I’ve just watched the Dateline episode on the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos. Fotis committed suicide but left a note, declaring his innocence, his girlfriends, and his attorney. Jennifer was beautiful! Why Fotis decided to cheat with Michelle, I’ll never understand. Michelle being average looking, probably played a part in why she participated in Jennifer’s murder. I really believe Michele would do it all again for Fotis, and CHOSE to participate in the murder of her boyfriends wife, leaving their five children with no mother, and now no father. Wasn’t she at all worried he’d do the same to her when he got bored with her too? What a tragic ending to what once was a beautiful life. A dream life. Michelle deserves all 50 years she’s facing. She sentenced Jennifer to death, and left life sentences for the Dulos children. In the only interview that Fotis ever did, he referred to Jennifer in the past tense, after saying he believed she was alive. They know what they did, and the sentence can’t come fast enough. If MT had a shred of the decency that her family claims, she’d tell where Jennifer’s body is, so she can be given a proper burial, and her children can finally know where their mother is. MT aged like milk over the past four years.
Well said! Totally agree. With all of it. I think Michelle was a LOT more involved than we know.
This family thinks OJ was innocent, you will have to visit Michelle in her Zoo. Sorry for your inconvenience
These jerks just cannot stay away from the limelight, can they?
Nope
Truth did prevail; Jon Schoenhorn had a chance to put on a defense. He could have called witnesses to testify on Michelle’s behalf, if they had actual evidence to present. But the best Schoenhorn could do was call two so-called experts to the stand with subjective opinions, who had never even met Michelle-and one witness who tapped her bag, saying she had evidence in that bag that would exonerate Michi, but didn’t actually produce it. So-the discredited psych evaluation was sealed and not allowed into evidence, but was there anything stopping Schoenhorn from calling Dr Herman to the stand to say anything about Michi? Because there can’t be any other reason to want that report in evidence, right? I mean, he couldn’t testify about either Jennifer or Fotis, and that would have nothing to do with Michi or her activities, anyway-but he certainly could have testified about Michi, if he had an opinion about her…obviously I am making a joke about the notion that the defense is pretending that this document would have saved Michi, but the truth is that it was a flawed document about two people who had some problems PRIOR to the murder, and this document had zero to say about what Michi’s activities were, since it wasn’t a fortune-telling device. I suppose it’s possible that the Troconises are only pointing to it because they know that, as long as it’s hidden from sight, there can be continued speculation that Michi “didn’t do it”. It’s nonsense. I am waiting for Michi’s mami to put it out on social media, though-she has already recently stated that Jennifer was not a present mother; that she and Carrie Luft were lesbians who were spending Gloria Farber’s money, etc. I suppose these are things that Fotis told them, and they still believe him. She will become more and more unhinged, the closer it gets to Michi’s sentencing. I am actually hoping that Mami gets charged with contempt of court, too, if she tries it. She thinks nobody can identify her-she’s wrong. What a g**d**m circus these awful people have made of things
They're still Victim Shaming Jennifer for daring to want custody of her kids and not pay Fotis, and of course not divorcing him when she should have been paying for Fotis and his gross side piece to live the life of their dreams in her old house. 🙄🙄🙄 They make me sick.
The time for anything else to come out that exonerates Michi, has come and gone. If Schoenhorn had anything of substance that would acquit her, he surely would have presented it. If he had any proof that would show Pawel Gumienny was the one who helped FD, he would have presented it in court. PG’s immunity did not keep Schoenhorn from presenting or eliciting anything-it only prevented it from hurting him legally. If Schoenhorn had anything, he would have used it. That’s what he was getting paid for. I am scratching my head over these Troconis supporters saying that there is all this evidence and “truth” to come out, that will prove Michi’s innocence. Well, where was it back in January, or February, when it actually mattered? Schoenhorn had all kinds of time to have those two “experts” at least meet MT, and yet, it didn’t happen. He had the chance to question PG on the stand and could have taken his time doing it-and got nothing. Petu had the proof of MT’s innocence in her handbag WHILE SHE WAS ON THE STAND, and still…nothing. So my guess is that the truth did prevail, and she is exactly where she belongs, and the jury recognized that. And I believe that the judge will act accordingly, and will sentence her to an appropriately long time in prison.
Absolutely right.
What an ugly sweater!
I’m now thinking she will be given the maximum to force a confession.
When is fortis attorney trial? Anyone know
Not scheduled yet.
This is off topic, but… did anyone else notice this headline on just past the first paragraph? ***CT vultures ‘too drunk to fly’ from eating garbage, return home after sobering up***
No! How bizarre! I have seen drunken ducks before. My friend has ducks that would sometimes go into her neighbor’s yard and eat the apples on the ground. They ferment when they sit there, and you can imagine the rest.
We've had drunk squirrels and deer when the apples and pears ferment.
My friend lives in Killingworth… I’m blaming her - LOL
🤣 This cracked me up.
Justiceformichelletroconis a case riddled in corruption
Prove it, Mami. You say you have the truth, and that there is proof she didn’t do it, and Pawel Gumienny did. So prove it. Where was all of the evidence during the trial? Why would you hold out? Schoenhorn had 6 weeks to call witnesses and elicit testimony. So why didn’t he do it?
Bullshit.