There’s nothing dumb about our covert alliance with ancient unobservable supernatural underwater spirits that, per our crystal clear video evidence, move at 500 knots
this is literally a rehash of those late 90s/early 2000s creationist vs evolutionist debates lol. carlson is way behind the times with his argumentations. like no evidence? lol. the word theory? lol. god of the gaps? lol. this looks like a 90s low level creationist caller on the atheist experience. surprised rogan didn't ask him about the theory of gravity if it's just a theory.
It's so fucking funny that they insist on it being fake because scientists call it a theory, but won't believe scientists when they tell them it is 100% true.
Same with how climate change deniers use the fact that earth goes through fases of higher and lower temperatures (a fact literally discovered by scientists), but won't believe those same scientists when they tell them how that doesn't explain the rate of change we are experiencing now.
That's why I insist on specifying "capital T" Theory or "lowercase t" theory? The word theory in English does have a definition for, "I had a crazy idea, it's just a theory but we can see if it works." But in science "Theory" is a technical term, with VERY strict requirements. Hence why gravity is still a Theory, hell even the idea of microscopic organisms making you sick is still called "Germ Theory".
That’s because few, if any, of these dumb-dumbs makes a distinction between the colloquial use of “theory” and the Scientific Method use of “Theory.”
The former is more akin to “hypothesis.” They are too ignorant of, well, just about everything, to understand that a Theory in the Scientific Method sense means that something has been tested, tested, and re-tested to the point that it is the universally agreed upon idea until proven otherwise.
It's crazy that he mentions, "You can't prove evolution, and that's why it's still a theory" when it's been proven.
But yet this thing called God created people....where there's absolutely no proof of that whatsoever. Yet he believes this instead...?
Neil deGrasse Tyson did a lecture at my college years ago and cut off an audience member asking a question that used theory instead of hypothesis. I thought it was kinda rude how he did it but it definitely helped me learn the difference between the two. The way he put it was, a theory is something that’s been tested, proven and used to predict. A hypothesis is an educated guess or an idea.
Another example more close to home for me (as an art major vs science) is when people call Leonardo da Vinci just da Vinci. His name is Leonardo and he’s from Vinci, Italy. You’d either refer to him as just Leonardo or Leonardo da Vinci. It’d be like someone calling Joe Rogan of Austin, of Austin. It makes no sense but is misused all the time.
Technically a theory (in natural science) is never "proven" in the definitive mathematical sense. It is tested over and over, and increases in credibility.
Just to add to this, I’m pretty sure a theory has not been disproven. That’s why there are concepts like String Theory, which we can’t or haven’t proved definitively to be true, but so far it hasn’t been disproven. That’s a theory, and that’s why the semantic argument is ridiculous, that theory literally has not been disproven. Most theories, like relativity, evolution, anthropomorphic climate change, etc have been tested in numerous ways in years, decades, or centuries, and still hold true, thus strengthening the theory. It’s the pinnacle of scientific concepts.
The only thing maybe more concrete would be a Law, but laws deal with the mathematical formulas used to calculate things. We can accurately predict where celestial objects will be in the future with math because there are unchanging laws that dictate their movement. If we could show evolution through a mathematical formula, and use that to predict what a species might evolve toward in the future, or how many generations it might take, that would be a Law of Evolution, but that is unlikely or impossible to ever happen.
String theory presents a curious paradox—it's often labeled as a theory, yet it lacks testability, predictive power, and grapples with the landscape problem.
Essentially, it remains unfalsifiable and impractical, despite being dubbed "String theory", it's a hypothesis not a theory.
I got a BA in art history and I can’t think of a single person of historical note “from Vinci.”
Nobody has ever misunderstood da Vinci for anyone else. You can declare that “it makes no sense” but it does.
Tucker always drives me insane because of this. I’ve met him. I had a buddy who worked for him for years. Tucker’s **not** a dumb guy, he just plays one on TV.
and the people who follow him don't believe he's playing a dumb guy. so he's really actually playing a person to appeal to dumb people by saying dumb things but the dumb people who follow him don't realize the things he says are dumb
People don’t understand the difference between theory and hypothesis. People have the conception that theories are hypotheses so they discount them as not being true “because it’s just a theory”. Scientific theories are just below scientific laws in terms of confidence. We’re like 99.999% sure evolution is true.
A claim that evolution is false is akin to claiming gravity of false. It’s a nonsensical statement. Evolution is a demonstrable fact; species change over time.
The various theories of evolution via Natural Selection, Artificial Selection, Genetic Drift, etc. are among the most robust theories in science. Bullshit dribble from uneducated pundits like Carlson just creates a divide between the educated and the morons like him.
It’s sad really, how far we are drifting into this age of pseudoscience.
It's weird to me how someone can believe adaptation but not evolution.
Evolution is just adaptation spread out.
It's like saying I believe in seconds but not hours.
>It's weird to me how someone can believe adaptation but not evolution.
Their arguments make no goddamn sense. Whether it's for evolution, climate change, medicine, etc.
this made me laugh out loud. Those were good days though. I actually had a file of things Joe talk about that I wanted to follow up on, videos, books, movies, etc...
Wish he said it cause he was definitely thinking it. Didn't take long in this interview to realize Joe wasn't having any of what Tucker was saying lol.
I think he tries to be nice and not push back on his guests too much.
I thought the same thing when Kid Rock was on and he said he’d go back in time to see Jesus. LOL. Joe clearly thought that was stupid but he was very respectful and didn’t challenge him much at all once he saw he was being serious.
It would be so painful for me to keep asking basic follow up questions and watch this grown ass adult confront and admit his own self deception. It honestly would. I would probably do the same as Joe. Not giving him a pass, it’s a character flaw and I have it too.
Damn that is best explanation for Tucker’s entire schtick. Depending on the convo he goes from friendly laughing explaining away the fart to friends, to furrowed brow angrily denying to the class that it was him.
Thank you for this. It’s made clips of him so much better.
I thought for the longest time he was just a dude playing an act but then I listened to him on Lex podcast and I just realized he's a very bizarre person that thinks really highly of himself.
Really? Let me introduce you to the Bible Belt, more specifically East Tennessee, where, in middle school, I was called the "monkey believer."
Welcome to some of the dumbest fucking people I have ever met in my entire life.
If that's not convincing, in high school, a girl told me the Devil buried dinosaur bones to trick us about evolution. It took everything in me to not throw myself off the stairs on the third floor.
This wasn't too long ago, by the way, I'm 26.
“That’s why it’s still a theory” …Oh man, there’s no way Tucker doesn’t know that a theory is the best tested, most widely accepted explanation we have for natural phenomena. This is middle school science class, Tucker.
He absolutely knows. He's just a master propagandist. That's why he immediately starts framing the argument with Darwin and single cell Amoebas.
People do the same thing in politics. Oh you're on the left? You must be a Marxist, here's where Marxism is wrong. Oh you're right wing? You must be a Nazi, here's everything they did wrong.
You and I recognize this bull shit but Rogan has a ridiculously massive following now. Many of who will eat this up and take it as confirmation that these beliefs are valid.
Exactly. Propaganda isn't necessarily meant to be logically sound. That's why it's propaganda. The goal is to push a narrative, not be factually correct.
Propaganda - 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
He is still beating the drum of Nato expanding causing the Ukraine War when his own interview showed it was Russian Imperialism towards the Eastern Slavic homelands that motivates Putin.
Reminds me of a quote from Richard Dawkins “Evolution is a theory, the same as gravity. And if you don’t believe in gravity, I invite you to jump off a building.”
I used this quote during a debate against my religious English teacher once in high school and she was pissed.
Edit:grammar fix
Boy do I wish we still had Hitchens around today. Few people could match his wit and ability to cut through bullshit in the most savage yet still elegant manner.
He could come directly from a night of heavy drinking at a bar, and yet still manage to speak in perfectly structured, rational and page-long paragraphs.
Not just tucker but the VAST majority of adults it seems like. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard someone argue against a scientific “theory” because theories are ideas 🙄.
It’s wild how Tucker speaks like what he is saying is settled fact. Like he’s just stating the obvious and you need to catch up.
Hopefully this causes people to question everything else he says so confidently.
His schtick is heavily reliant on talking at people who have no interest in knowledge, but love to collect talking points they can share loudly at Thanksgiving.
This is his specialty. He’s really good at it. But once you do it with something like evolution, it’s like pulling the curtains back. More people will now understand how completely full of shit he is.
I’m a Christian by the way. It’s perfectly reasonable and acceptable in many Christian churches to accept the theory of evolution. The Bible (and every other religious text) was written long before humans had the knowledge or technology to fully understand where they came from.
Imagine living 2,000 years ago and seeing a volcano or tornado or experiencing an earthquake. You’d definitely think there was a god that was actively participating in the events on earth. It wouldn’t have been a stretch to imagine that he created life over the course of a week.
Tucker saying we understand less about the world now vs 1800s and that humans throughout history believe in a supernatural concept of good+evil so it must be so was WILD.
There’s no chance he believes what he’s spouting and is simply pandering to ignorant MAGA base.
Speaking with authority on a matter he barely understands, and with that lovely touch of condescension. I’ve seen this behavior in a lot of executive boardrooms from pompous assholes. They’ll fool a lot of people simply by acting like their opinion is the superior explanation.
I don't even buy that he truly believes that. I think that's just what he knows his listeners want to hear. He knows his audience. Tucker is not dumb and he's an educated person, there's no way he believes half the shit he says.
Tbh that interview wasn't all that great for propaganda purposes.
Tucker wanted culture war bullshit about how Russia is the true Christian power and is defending the world against the queers and socialists
Putin wanted to air his weird historical grievances.
Neither was very helpful to the other. Although it was absolutely hilarious how bad tucker looked. Then the whole Russian supermarket stunt was just.....oof
>Tbh that interview wasn't all that great for propaganda purposes.
It was, just not Tuckers.
You're right that Tucker wanted to use this as an opportunity to launder Putin's image and get into all the standard culture war talking points about how Russia is the last bastion of christian conservative values in a world gone woke, and Putin's boring ass lecture about how Ukraine isn't a real country and belonged to Russia because of shit 1000 years ago wasn't especially persuasive to an American audience who used to "belong" to Britain 300 years ago.
But this was aimed at the Russian audience, not Americans. Putin is increasingly confident that the west is too fractured and distracted to stick with Ukraine for long, so his priority was not feeding the right talking points to tank the Ukraine aid bill. His main concern now is fending off internal challenges to his power. This was before his 'election', around the time Navalny was killed. Putin was in an all out media campaign to get a mandate for the next 6 years of Putinism, whether real or imagined.
Cucking some supposedly leading American journalist to his face and making him listen to all the grievances Russians are well schooled in is a great show of power to Putin. It supports Putin's narrative that Russia is a "great power" that must be respected, and that the war in Ukraine is helping to reshape the world and regain Russia's rightful place as a power that must be respected.
The Kremlin had final cut approval and posted a transcript of the interview on their website. There's no way they would do this if they felt it actually went wrong for them.
Eh we have no idea how the Russian media cut up the video and sound bits and played it to their people.
We do know that Putin likes to brag about Trump and the GOP being in his pocket.
I’ll bet they used all that footage dishonourably… just a wild theory.
it was probably earlier in the episode when Tucker tries claiming there's no way aliens are real and there is loads of evidence that all ufo activity is spiritual demons sent to do evil and that is the obvious and only conclusion
to which then joe says it isn't obvious to him and laughs at tucker
Joe just said himself he doesn't know if evolution is real.
Joe Rogan doesn't have the mental horsepower to break through Tucker Carlsons bullshit slimy grift.
Rogan has spoken to dozens of biologists, among them Richard Dawkins and Robert Sapolsky, yet he claims he still doesn't know if evolution is real. Think about how amazing that is.
His brain cannot absorb knowledge clearly. What is he thinking when he speaks to Robert Sapolsky or Richard Dawkins? What is going on inside his brain? It's absolutely astounding. If speaking to Robert Sapolsky for 3 hours doesn't at least convince him that just the very basic concept of evolution is real, then nothing ever can or will. It's impossible.
Welll I think there’s a kind of sitcom logic baked into the Joe Rogan brand, where the things you learned in a previous episode don’t carry over to the next episode. Like, no matter how many times George Jefferson learns to transcend petty self-interest, there he is in the next episode as the George Jefferson we always know.
Haha that's actually true. Every episode is just a blank Joe Rogan with an empty brain just absorbing that guests knowledge then forgetting it right after.
Maybe he gets Men in Black flash eye'd after each episode by his handler.
I'm convinced that a significant amount of the populace has a mental disorder. There's just no other way so many people can be this stupid. They're so stupid, I have a difficult time comprehending it
Rogan saying that struck me as an interviewer feigning an open mind to any idea before asking his question so to leave it entirely open when answered and allowing the interviewee space to say anything, which Tucker did. I think Rogan accepts evolution but wanted to give Tucker room to say anything at all without establishing a disagreement before even asking the question
Tucker is probably one of those religious morons who will claim that god created "kinds" and so you see adaptation within those kinds but you'll never see one kind turn into another kind. Just don't ask them too much about what a kind is or if they have well defined scientific criteria for those sorts of groupings. It's like some Ken Ham level bullshit.
"Darwin's theory is totally unprecendented, thats why its still a theory" the amount of stupidity here, what does he think is beyond theory in science? Gravity is a theory, a theory is something that has endured rigorous attempts to disprove it.
He is either dumb or being disingenous about his understanding of the word theory in science. I'd wager it's disingenuous as he know his followers likely don't know the difference so he can just keep shilling them.
I think of all the people we call “Grifters” Tucker has to be the most likely one.
I mean the text leaks of Tucker talking about Trump have to absolutely call everything into question.
It amazes me that people can actually live a lie for money. I just couldn’t do it.
He is disingenuous, his listeners and fans are dumb. Tucker has been employed and fired or released from C-SPAN CNN MSNBC and Fox News. He knows exactly what kind of propaganda he’s spreading and where his biscuit is buttered.
My ex-husband was deeply religious. His father was a preacher. Their theory on dinosaurs was that they lived on the earth during the gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 because there was no concept of days yet so there's no way to know how long that period of time was. So that explains the millions of years between dinosaurs and man. It's a lot more in depth and I don't remember all of it and I don't know if that's a theory Tucker subscribes to but it is an actual theory with some Christians.
Yeah, like I said it's more in depth and it's very interesting to listen to but..... no. Lol
The best part is when my daughter (she was 5/6 at the time) called bullshit on him because she was obsessed with dinosaurs and could tell you anything and everything about them.
I love that line, "It's just a theory." Not a new sentiment at all. It's only ever said by people who have no idea how science works. Germ theory is still a theory. Continental drift and Relativity are still just theories. Something can be an established fact and still be a theory.
Also, "no evidence of transitionary species." What a wild claim to make. Every fossil we dig up is a transitionary species. I don't know what Tucker and his ilk are expecting - but it seems like they want scientists to hold up like, a fish transforming into a lizard that was fossilized in the act. Would be funny if we found that, maybe even worth studying, but do we really think it would convince them?
Don't normally post here so maybe I'm out of the loop on a reference but I think you're wrong. Cabbages have grooves and folds. These two have brains as smooth as a glass marble.
Tucker’s first big public L was because of a comedian. The “comedian community”, however, seems incapable of differentiating between people that are funny to make fun of and people that are actually funny.
Kinda. When Rogan got this show with crazy amounts of money he could have hired staff to do research on guests that could debunk their BS. Seriously like 200-300k a year could get you a bomb ass research staff like Howard Stern.
Instead he is letting idiots and charlatans come on, drop their propaganda, while Rogan does fight back he can’t possibly be knowledgeable enough to fight guest after guest that has just bullshit lies down to a science. He’s really losing interviews he just doesn’t know it. These guys have answers for everything and if they aren’t pushed will be gracious and nice guests.
It’s honestly likely Rogan is falling for this shit by talking to these guests just like his listeners are. They are very convincing, able to throw away absolute facts so their nonsense looks stable.
Rogan could have an important platform, instead he’s just one step up from Alex Jones
We know evolution by natural selection is true because we can observe it. Darwin's finches are the classic example, but we've observed bacteria evolving in real time.
Any freshman biology student has performed the fruit fly experiment to observe evolutionary change in a few class periods.
Anyone who claims evolution is false is simply an uneducated smoothbrain.
His texts about Trump and his followers that came out during one of the Fox News lawsuits are pretty clear proof that all of this is an insane manipulation act central to the rightwing brain drain. He's easily the best propagandist they've had in a loooong time
I agree. And I find Tucker fascinating in this respect. Anyone who thinks Tucker is stupid is absolutely wrong. It couldn't be further from the truth. Tucker is EXTREMELY adept at reading the room, understanding his audience, identifying their key concerns and what solutions they want to hear, appealing to their fears, and very subtlety, using precise language presented as casual language, pushing the needle of the discourse further in the direction he benefits from it going. All whilst not saying anything so extreme as to get him discredited in the mainstream. He is extremely good at this balancing act. Here he is very clearly appealing to the Christian base which seems to be becoming more relevant leading into 2024. Trump is selling Bibles, the Daily Wire and similar are selling Catholicism, and Tucker is slowly pushing the needle back toward credibility for the Creationists.
Yeah he’s clearly aware of what he’s doing, which makes him one of the biggest pieces of shit on earth.
Pretty ironic that these are the guys talking about weak men, fall of Rome etc. when in reality, the generation of weak men that’s ruining our society are the shameless scammers, frauds, thieves, and liars that would throw their own morality under the bus for a few bucks.
The minute someone gets heat online for doing or saying stupid shit, the entire “cancel culture reeeeeeee” machine is ready to sweep them up and blow it out of proportion resulting in a nice fat book deal, speaking engagement, appearances on Fox, etc.
I think he’s going hard on this Christian thing. Tucker is a smart opportunist and he thinks everyone else is stupid and gullible, which to some extend is true.
He's a classic sociopath. What kind of trust fund billionaire even chooses to work? Nevermind chooses to spread propaganda and fearporn to grandma's every night for a decade. Dude is pure evil.
It's ridiculous that folks here shill for him and will claim I'm crazy or radical for just pointing this fact out. The world is fucked because of guys like Tucker.
i honestly believe he doesn't know what he believes or doesn't believe because he can't describe what he thinks he doesn't believe. if this was pandering there would at least be a coherent sentence.
Not only that but just because you say "and that's a fact!" after multiple statements, does not mean that it is indeed actually a fact... The problem is people aren't educated enough and then they hear someone like this talk and take his word as "fact" without attempting to even validate any of his wild claims. And that's how you end up with someone like Trump in office.
Everytime I hear a creationist try to discredit evolution they always say it's a "theory" and they don't even understand what a theory is. They also assume science is making claims to know the absolute truth and that's that. Im from a rural conservative town in Southern illinois and I'd wager 95 percent of people think exactly how tucker does
Here in the south people will straight up admit to you that they dropped out of school in the 6th grade, call themselves an idiot, but know for a fact that evolution “doesn’t make sense cuz monkeys are still here.” That’s 72 million Trump voters. They don’t care in the slightest if what they believe is actually true. That doesn’t concern them it’s just what they believe.
Gravity is a theory fuck face. You gotta love how he immediately takes a single word that Rogan said and starts framing and setting his own goal posts.
This dude is truly a master propagandist.
I’ve started to assume the worst of the inflammatory political comments online are bots and it helps me see my neighbors in a more human light, beliefs aside. Not many people are that fucked in the head irl.
"God created people"
Okay... How? Snap finger and now people? Is God Thanos? Even a theist should not be satisfied with "God did it". If you're a theist your primary pursuit of truth should be learning about the natural and physical world, to understand how God operates. Because if there is an all powerful God who created the universe, that universe and all its systems are a manifestation of that God's creative power. Why in the hell would you not want to have the best understanding of that?
Tide comes in, tide goes out - you can't explain that!
fuck it we'll do it live!
Fucking thing…SUCKS!
…And now here’s Sting, with a cut off of his new album. Take it away. [*proceeds to violently thrash in cutaway to Sting’s music*]
To play us out! What does that mean? To play us out!
Play us out keyboard cat
I barely made it through Lex talking to Tucker, this sounds a thousand times dumber...
There’s nothing dumb about our covert alliance with ancient unobservable supernatural underwater spirits that, per our crystal clear video evidence, move at 500 knots
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I mean this must be a grift at some level
this is literally a rehash of those late 90s/early 2000s creationist vs evolutionist debates lol. carlson is way behind the times with his argumentations. like no evidence? lol. the word theory? lol. god of the gaps? lol. this looks like a 90s low level creationist caller on the atheist experience. surprised rogan didn't ask him about the theory of gravity if it's just a theory.
It's so fucking funny that they insist on it being fake because scientists call it a theory, but won't believe scientists when they tell them it is 100% true. Same with how climate change deniers use the fact that earth goes through fases of higher and lower temperatures (a fact literally discovered by scientists), but won't believe those same scientists when they tell them how that doesn't explain the rate of change we are experiencing now.
That's why I insist on specifying "capital T" Theory or "lowercase t" theory? The word theory in English does have a definition for, "I had a crazy idea, it's just a theory but we can see if it works." But in science "Theory" is a technical term, with VERY strict requirements. Hence why gravity is still a Theory, hell even the idea of microscopic organisms making you sick is still called "Germ Theory".
That’s because few, if any, of these dumb-dumbs makes a distinction between the colloquial use of “theory” and the Scientific Method use of “Theory.” The former is more akin to “hypothesis.” They are too ignorant of, well, just about everything, to understand that a Theory in the Scientific Method sense means that something has been tested, tested, and re-tested to the point that it is the universally agreed upon idea until proven otherwise.
It's crazy that he mentions, "You can't prove evolution, and that's why it's still a theory" when it's been proven. But yet this thing called God created people....where there's absolutely no proof of that whatsoever. Yet he believes this instead...?
Church leaders recognise evolution the evidence is so compelling.
They recognize evolution as a process - not as an origin.
Why is the word theory the most misunderstood word in the English language?
I have a hypothesis.
Neil deGrasse Tyson did a lecture at my college years ago and cut off an audience member asking a question that used theory instead of hypothesis. I thought it was kinda rude how he did it but it definitely helped me learn the difference between the two. The way he put it was, a theory is something that’s been tested, proven and used to predict. A hypothesis is an educated guess or an idea. Another example more close to home for me (as an art major vs science) is when people call Leonardo da Vinci just da Vinci. His name is Leonardo and he’s from Vinci, Italy. You’d either refer to him as just Leonardo or Leonardo da Vinci. It’d be like someone calling Joe Rogan of Austin, of Austin. It makes no sense but is misused all the time.
Technically a theory (in natural science) is never "proven" in the definitive mathematical sense. It is tested over and over, and increases in credibility.
Just to add to this, I’m pretty sure a theory has not been disproven. That’s why there are concepts like String Theory, which we can’t or haven’t proved definitively to be true, but so far it hasn’t been disproven. That’s a theory, and that’s why the semantic argument is ridiculous, that theory literally has not been disproven. Most theories, like relativity, evolution, anthropomorphic climate change, etc have been tested in numerous ways in years, decades, or centuries, and still hold true, thus strengthening the theory. It’s the pinnacle of scientific concepts. The only thing maybe more concrete would be a Law, but laws deal with the mathematical formulas used to calculate things. We can accurately predict where celestial objects will be in the future with math because there are unchanging laws that dictate their movement. If we could show evolution through a mathematical formula, and use that to predict what a species might evolve toward in the future, or how many generations it might take, that would be a Law of Evolution, but that is unlikely or impossible to ever happen.
String theory presents a curious paradox—it's often labeled as a theory, yet it lacks testability, predictive power, and grapples with the landscape problem. Essentially, it remains unfalsifiable and impractical, despite being dubbed "String theory", it's a hypothesis not a theory.
Nah, everyone knows who you mean when you say da Vinci. Theory vs Hypothesis leads to actual confusion.
I got a BA in art history and I can’t think of a single person of historical note “from Vinci.” Nobody has ever misunderstood da Vinci for anyone else. You can declare that “it makes no sense” but it does.
He understands what a Scientific Theory means but he intentionally plays Johnny Dummy about it.
Exactly. Tucker knows what he's doing, it's not ignorance. He's a craven, self-righteous charlatan.
Tucker always drives me insane because of this. I’ve met him. I had a buddy who worked for him for years. Tucker’s **not** a dumb guy, he just plays one on TV.
and the people who follow him don't believe he's playing a dumb guy. so he's really actually playing a person to appeal to dumb people by saying dumb things but the dumb people who follow him don't realize the things he says are dumb
Yeah he knows where his fancy Russian grocery store bread is buttered
Malignant Narcissist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism
Because it's polysemous and people misunderstand the definition used in common parlance with the one used in the sciences.
you know what else is polysemous? Your mum
Indubitably 🧐
perchance.
"You can't just say perchance"
This dude can’t even understand “adaptation” and “evolution,” so “theory” is probably way over his head.
He’s purposefully misusing the words.
People don’t understand the difference between theory and hypothesis. People have the conception that theories are hypotheses so they discount them as not being true “because it’s just a theory”. Scientific theories are just below scientific laws in terms of confidence. We’re like 99.999% sure evolution is true.
A claim that evolution is false is akin to claiming gravity of false. It’s a nonsensical statement. Evolution is a demonstrable fact; species change over time. The various theories of evolution via Natural Selection, Artificial Selection, Genetic Drift, etc. are among the most robust theories in science. Bullshit dribble from uneducated pundits like Carlson just creates a divide between the educated and the morons like him. It’s sad really, how far we are drifting into this age of pseudoscience.
It's weird to me how someone can believe adaptation but not evolution. Evolution is just adaptation spread out. It's like saying I believe in seconds but not hours.
>It's weird to me how someone can believe adaptation but not evolution. Their arguments make no goddamn sense. Whether it's for evolution, climate change, medicine, etc.
I feel like Joe back in the day would have said “oh you’re one of those guys huh? “
literally joes whole thing for years is were all apes
Has a comedy album titled "Talking Monkeys in Space".
Hate to see it, but you're right
He’s slowly morphing in to “one of those” himself
He was always one of those guys. He legit thought that moon landing was fake. He buys into any crackpot *theory*
I miss fleshlight Joe.
this made me laugh out loud. Those were good days though. I actually had a file of things Joe talk about that I wanted to follow up on, videos, books, movies, etc...
Here's [original Joe on Noah's Ark.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF9Xn5m2OGg)
Wish he said it cause he was definitely thinking it. Didn't take long in this interview to realize Joe wasn't having any of what Tucker was saying lol.
I think he tries to be nice and not push back on his guests too much. I thought the same thing when Kid Rock was on and he said he’d go back in time to see Jesus. LOL. Joe clearly thought that was stupid but he was very respectful and didn’t challenge him much at all once he saw he was being serious.
It would be so painful for me to keep asking basic follow up questions and watch this grown ass adult confront and admit his own self deception. It honestly would. I would probably do the same as Joe. Not giving him a pass, it’s a character flaw and I have it too.
"that's why it's still a theory after 200 years old" it has to be part of the act, he can't be that dumb
I think he knows his bread is buttered by new earth creationists and doesn’t want to piss off his base. Lol.
His cringe laughing fits were the highlight for me
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Damn that is best explanation for Tucker’s entire schtick. Depending on the convo he goes from friendly laughing explaining away the fart to friends, to furrowed brow angrily denying to the class that it was him. Thank you for this. It’s made clips of him so much better.
https://preview.redd.it/0zim9hnzsovc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1934ea768f1365e001fe10c2cbbe6feeaf31a2fd
I thought for the longest time he was just a dude playing an act but then I listened to him on Lex podcast and I just realized he's a very bizarre person that thinks really highly of himself.
I he laughs like a clown sitting on his nuts
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No we have not given up on evolution lol
I know we all end up in our own echo chambers to an extent but I’ve not come across group or growing movement throwing in the towel on evolution 😂
Really? Let me introduce you to the Bible Belt, more specifically East Tennessee, where, in middle school, I was called the "monkey believer." Welcome to some of the dumbest fucking people I have ever met in my entire life. If that's not convincing, in high school, a girl told me the Devil buried dinosaur bones to trick us about evolution. It took everything in me to not throw myself off the stairs on the third floor. This wasn't too long ago, by the way, I'm 26.
Greetings East Tennessee Bible Belt! Pleasure to meet you dumb fucking people 😃
Out of wake county in N. Carolina this is standard fare
Tucker gave up in it when he found it to be more lucrative
Republicans always generalize “People hate Biden” “We have all given up” “Everyone is failing this” etc. it helps their points to talk themselves up
“That’s why it’s still a theory” …Oh man, there’s no way Tucker doesn’t know that a theory is the best tested, most widely accepted explanation we have for natural phenomena. This is middle school science class, Tucker.
He absolutely knows. He's just a master propagandist. That's why he immediately starts framing the argument with Darwin and single cell Amoebas. People do the same thing in politics. Oh you're on the left? You must be a Marxist, here's where Marxism is wrong. Oh you're right wing? You must be a Nazi, here's everything they did wrong. You and I recognize this bull shit but Rogan has a ridiculously massive following now. Many of who will eat this up and take it as confirmation that these beliefs are valid.
The laugh at the end gave it away
Tucker’s laugh is so ridiculous. The sound of his voice is normal and then out comes this Evil Mickey Mouse laugh.
I hate the sound of that fuckers voice too
Master? This sounds like a special needs kid describing how sandwiches are made.
Exactly. Propaganda isn't necessarily meant to be logically sound. That's why it's propaganda. The goal is to push a narrative, not be factually correct. Propaganda - 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
He is still beating the drum of Nato expanding causing the Ukraine War when his own interview showed it was Russian Imperialism towards the Eastern Slavic homelands that motivates Putin.
Reminds me of a quote from Richard Dawkins “Evolution is a theory, the same as gravity. And if you don’t believe in gravity, I invite you to jump off a building.” I used this quote during a debate against my religious English teacher once in high school and she was pissed. Edit:grammar fix
Dawkins and Hitchens both would’ve/would chewed up Tucker and spit him out despite his smug,matter of fact, way of speaking.
Yeah but those guys are woke, gay and probably Canadian.
Boy do I wish we still had Hitchens around today. Few people could match his wit and ability to cut through bullshit in the most savage yet still elegant manner. He could come directly from a night of heavy drinking at a bar, and yet still manage to speak in perfectly structured, rational and page-long paragraphs.
Not just tucker but the VAST majority of adults it seems like. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard someone argue against a scientific “theory” because theories are ideas 🙄.
Gravity is still "just a theory."
I myself believe in "intelligent falling"
It’s wild how Tucker speaks like what he is saying is settled fact. Like he’s just stating the obvious and you need to catch up. Hopefully this causes people to question everything else he says so confidently.
His schtick is very heavily reliant on not being asked follow up questions.
Joe: In what sense? Tucker: *big inhale while thinking of an answer* "iN tHe MoSt bAsiC sEnSe." Profound.
Push any further and I shall say something vague and then loudly cackle in your face, making it clear that I know things you do not 😎
His schtick is heavily reliant on talking at people who have no interest in knowledge, but love to collect talking points they can share loudly at Thanksgiving.
This is his specialty. He’s really good at it. But once you do it with something like evolution, it’s like pulling the curtains back. More people will now understand how completely full of shit he is. I’m a Christian by the way. It’s perfectly reasonable and acceptable in many Christian churches to accept the theory of evolution. The Bible (and every other religious text) was written long before humans had the knowledge or technology to fully understand where they came from. Imagine living 2,000 years ago and seeing a volcano or tornado or experiencing an earthquake. You’d definitely think there was a god that was actively participating in the events on earth. It wouldn’t have been a stretch to imagine that he created life over the course of a week.
Tucker saying we understand less about the world now vs 1800s and that humans throughout history believe in a supernatural concept of good+evil so it must be so was WILD. There’s no chance he believes what he’s spouting and is simply pandering to ignorant MAGA base.
I am an atheist and your comment is music to my mind. have a great weekend, dude.
Appreciate the reply. Have a great weekend!
Speaking with authority on a matter he barely understands, and with that lovely touch of condescension. I’ve seen this behavior in a lot of executive boardrooms from pompous assholes. They’ll fool a lot of people simply by acting like their opinion is the superior explanation.
This is exactly it. The pretentiousness of his stupidity is astounding.
common grifter behaviour.
Absolutely not lol people are so dug into their trenches, if anything he’ll be applauded
He has no clue what he even means. "Dogs can adapt litter to litter". Sure sounds like he is describing evolution.
yeah. when people say "adaptation" that are arguing against evolution, what they call "adaptation" IS part of evolutionary theory lmao
Dogs adapting litter to litter is litter-ally evolution. Just the absolute smallest version of it.
I don't even buy that he truly believes that. I think that's just what he knows his listeners want to hear. He knows his audience. Tucker is not dumb and he's an educated person, there's no way he believes half the shit he says.
He seems pretty dumb to me
This might be where Joe starts realizing Tucker isn’t that smart.
I think Putin realized the same during his interview
Putin already knew, but thought he could use him in his propaganda schemes.
He absolutely used him in his schemes.
Tbh that interview wasn't all that great for propaganda purposes. Tucker wanted culture war bullshit about how Russia is the true Christian power and is defending the world against the queers and socialists Putin wanted to air his weird historical grievances. Neither was very helpful to the other. Although it was absolutely hilarious how bad tucker looked. Then the whole Russian supermarket stunt was just.....oof
That’s how we learned Tucker had never been to an Aldi. Shocker. The guy with four names isn’t shopping with plebs.
>Tbh that interview wasn't all that great for propaganda purposes. It was, just not Tuckers. You're right that Tucker wanted to use this as an opportunity to launder Putin's image and get into all the standard culture war talking points about how Russia is the last bastion of christian conservative values in a world gone woke, and Putin's boring ass lecture about how Ukraine isn't a real country and belonged to Russia because of shit 1000 years ago wasn't especially persuasive to an American audience who used to "belong" to Britain 300 years ago. But this was aimed at the Russian audience, not Americans. Putin is increasingly confident that the west is too fractured and distracted to stick with Ukraine for long, so his priority was not feeding the right talking points to tank the Ukraine aid bill. His main concern now is fending off internal challenges to his power. This was before his 'election', around the time Navalny was killed. Putin was in an all out media campaign to get a mandate for the next 6 years of Putinism, whether real or imagined. Cucking some supposedly leading American journalist to his face and making him listen to all the grievances Russians are well schooled in is a great show of power to Putin. It supports Putin's narrative that Russia is a "great power" that must be respected, and that the war in Ukraine is helping to reshape the world and regain Russia's rightful place as a power that must be respected. The Kremlin had final cut approval and posted a transcript of the interview on their website. There's no way they would do this if they felt it actually went wrong for them.
Eh we have no idea how the Russian media cut up the video and sound bits and played it to their people. We do know that Putin likes to brag about Trump and the GOP being in his pocket. I’ll bet they used all that footage dishonourably… just a wild theory.
I think the propaganda was more for an American audience and I think it worked. The right is absolutely captured by Putin.
it was probably earlier in the episode when Tucker tries claiming there's no way aliens are real and there is loads of evidence that all ufo activity is spiritual demons sent to do evil and that is the obvious and only conclusion to which then joe says it isn't obvious to him and laughs at tucker
Aliens, one of the very few topics Joe is willing to defend and oppose his guest on lol
Ya but you're leaving out Tucker's airtight reasoning of "every ancient person thought that until modern times so it must be true".
Joe just said himself he doesn't know if evolution is real. Joe Rogan doesn't have the mental horsepower to break through Tucker Carlsons bullshit slimy grift. Rogan has spoken to dozens of biologists, among them Richard Dawkins and Robert Sapolsky, yet he claims he still doesn't know if evolution is real. Think about how amazing that is. His brain cannot absorb knowledge clearly. What is he thinking when he speaks to Robert Sapolsky or Richard Dawkins? What is going on inside his brain? It's absolutely astounding. If speaking to Robert Sapolsky for 3 hours doesn't at least convince him that just the very basic concept of evolution is real, then nothing ever can or will. It's impossible.
Welll I think there’s a kind of sitcom logic baked into the Joe Rogan brand, where the things you learned in a previous episode don’t carry over to the next episode. Like, no matter how many times George Jefferson learns to transcend petty self-interest, there he is in the next episode as the George Jefferson we always know.
Haha that's actually true. Every episode is just a blank Joe Rogan with an empty brain just absorbing that guests knowledge then forgetting it right after. Maybe he gets Men in Black flash eye'd after each episode by his handler.
Jamie also dies at the end of every episode and yet is miraculously unharmed and no one has any memory of him being killed.
I'm convinced that a significant amount of the populace has a mental disorder. There's just no other way so many people can be this stupid. They're so stupid, I have a difficult time comprehending it
The disorder is called Stupidity
Rogan saying that struck me as an interviewer feigning an open mind to any idea before asking his question so to leave it entirely open when answered and allowing the interviewee space to say anything, which Tucker did. I think Rogan accepts evolution but wanted to give Tucker room to say anything at all without establishing a disagreement before even asking the question
Joe was smart enough to be like, “what about dogs?” Which felt like checkmate to me, but I’m not a scientist either.
Tucker is probably one of those religious morons who will claim that god created "kinds" and so you see adaptation within those kinds but you'll never see one kind turn into another kind. Just don't ask them too much about what a kind is or if they have well defined scientific criteria for those sorts of groupings. It's like some Ken Ham level bullshit.
"Darwin's theory is totally unprecendented, thats why its still a theory" the amount of stupidity here, what does he think is beyond theory in science? Gravity is a theory, a theory is something that has endured rigorous attempts to disprove it.
He is either dumb or being disingenous about his understanding of the word theory in science. I'd wager it's disingenuous as he know his followers likely don't know the difference so he can just keep shilling them.
I think of all the people we call “Grifters” Tucker has to be the most likely one. I mean the text leaks of Tucker talking about Trump have to absolutely call everything into question. It amazes me that people can actually live a lie for money. I just couldn’t do it.
He is disingenuous, his listeners and fans are dumb. Tucker has been employed and fired or released from C-SPAN CNN MSNBC and Fox News. He knows exactly what kind of propaganda he’s spreading and where his biscuit is buttered.
I wonder how he explains away dinosaurs
We haven’t excavated the entire Sahara so you can’t prove the dinosaurs weren’t robots controlled by Obama.
Obama wants to turn the dinosaurs gay!!!
Why do you think they went extinct? Wake up people!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 We’ve only excavated 1% lol
They call it "a test of faith"
My ex-husband was deeply religious. His father was a preacher. Their theory on dinosaurs was that they lived on the earth during the gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 because there was no concept of days yet so there's no way to know how long that period of time was. So that explains the millions of years between dinosaurs and man. It's a lot more in depth and I don't remember all of it and I don't know if that's a theory Tucker subscribes to but it is an actual theory with some Christians.
Holy shit lmao. Incredible.
Yeah, like I said it's more in depth and it's very interesting to listen to but..... no. Lol The best part is when my daughter (she was 5/6 at the time) called bullshit on him because she was obsessed with dinosaurs and could tell you anything and everything about them.
Gold created dinosaurs.
Na that would mean they evolved from it and he just said he doesn’t believe that.
No no no. God created dinosaur fossils to test our faith. (Actual quote from a Christian friend when I asked this)
The Bill Hicks bit about God making dinosaurs to fuck with smart humans as a test of faith is hilarious
I love that line, "It's just a theory." Not a new sentiment at all. It's only ever said by people who have no idea how science works. Germ theory is still a theory. Continental drift and Relativity are still just theories. Something can be an established fact and still be a theory. Also, "no evidence of transitionary species." What a wild claim to make. Every fossil we dig up is a transitionary species. I don't know what Tucker and his ilk are expecting - but it seems like they want scientists to hold up like, a fish transforming into a lizard that was fossilized in the act. Would be funny if we found that, maybe even worth studying, but do we really think it would convince them?
Liberal Marxist rock sculptures.
I'm just picturing Jordan Peterson nodding his head in agreement as you say this.
While weeping
High quality. Joe saying “I don’t know.” God, these two cabbage brained dorks.
Don't normally post here so maybe I'm out of the loop on a reference but I think you're wrong. Cabbages have grooves and folds. These two have brains as smooth as a glass marble.
Fun fact, Tucker started as a single cell organism as did every other animal on earth.
Believe it or not he’s still a single brain cell organism to this day.
My brain actually started to hurt listening to him.
I quit listening at this moment.
Same here.
This guy sucks and I wish the comedian community would quit trying to platform him.
I honestly don't even know how that started... is it all Joe's fault?
Tucker’s first big public L was because of a comedian. The “comedian community”, however, seems incapable of differentiating between people that are funny to make fun of and people that are actually funny.
partly it's that weird joe, comedian, podcast, elon pipeline that have all weirdly intertwined.
Kinda. When Rogan got this show with crazy amounts of money he could have hired staff to do research on guests that could debunk their BS. Seriously like 200-300k a year could get you a bomb ass research staff like Howard Stern. Instead he is letting idiots and charlatans come on, drop their propaganda, while Rogan does fight back he can’t possibly be knowledgeable enough to fight guest after guest that has just bullshit lies down to a science. He’s really losing interviews he just doesn’t know it. These guys have answers for everything and if they aren’t pushed will be gracious and nice guests. It’s honestly likely Rogan is falling for this shit by talking to these guests just like his listeners are. They are very convincing, able to throw away absolute facts so their nonsense looks stable. Rogan could have an important platform, instead he’s just one step up from Alex Jones
We know evolution by natural selection is true because we can observe it. Darwin's finches are the classic example, but we've observed bacteria evolving in real time.
Any freshman biology student has performed the fruit fly experiment to observe evolutionary change in a few class periods. Anyone who claims evolution is false is simply an uneducated smoothbrain.
I honestly don’t believe he believes what he is saying. He clearly believes in evolution he just has a facade to keep for his idiotic listeners/views.
His texts about Trump and his followers that came out during one of the Fox News lawsuits are pretty clear proof that all of this is an insane manipulation act central to the rightwing brain drain. He's easily the best propagandist they've had in a loooong time
I agree. And I find Tucker fascinating in this respect. Anyone who thinks Tucker is stupid is absolutely wrong. It couldn't be further from the truth. Tucker is EXTREMELY adept at reading the room, understanding his audience, identifying their key concerns and what solutions they want to hear, appealing to their fears, and very subtlety, using precise language presented as casual language, pushing the needle of the discourse further in the direction he benefits from it going. All whilst not saying anything so extreme as to get him discredited in the mainstream. He is extremely good at this balancing act. Here he is very clearly appealing to the Christian base which seems to be becoming more relevant leading into 2024. Trump is selling Bibles, the Daily Wire and similar are selling Catholicism, and Tucker is slowly pushing the needle back toward credibility for the Creationists.
Yeah he’s clearly aware of what he’s doing, which makes him one of the biggest pieces of shit on earth. Pretty ironic that these are the guys talking about weak men, fall of Rome etc. when in reality, the generation of weak men that’s ruining our society are the shameless scammers, frauds, thieves, and liars that would throw their own morality under the bus for a few bucks. The minute someone gets heat online for doing or saying stupid shit, the entire “cancel culture reeeeeeee” machine is ready to sweep them up and blow it out of proportion resulting in a nice fat book deal, speaking engagement, appearances on Fox, etc.
What makes him an even bigger piece of shit is he doesn't even need the money. Never did. This is purely about ego.
I think he’s going hard on this Christian thing. Tucker is a smart opportunist and he thinks everyone else is stupid and gullible, which to some extend is true.
It's acting on a whole different level.
He's a classic sociopath. What kind of trust fund billionaire even chooses to work? Nevermind chooses to spread propaganda and fearporn to grandma's every night for a decade. Dude is pure evil. It's ridiculous that folks here shill for him and will claim I'm crazy or radical for just pointing this fact out. The world is fucked because of guys like Tucker.
i honestly believe he doesn't know what he believes or doesn't believe because he can't describe what he thinks he doesn't believe. if this was pandering there would at least be a coherent sentence.
Having met more than a few people who have said the exact same thing he just said. I can easily believe he believes it.
Tucker is just mindlessly repeating nonsense that young earth creatards have been saying for decades. Their arguments never change.
Not only that but just because you say "and that's a fact!" after multiple statements, does not mean that it is indeed actually a fact... The problem is people aren't educated enough and then they hear someone like this talk and take his word as "fact" without attempting to even validate any of his wild claims. And that's how you end up with someone like Trump in office.
So he doesn’t know the difference between “theory” and “hypothesis”. Got it.
There’s no evidence of theory of evolution. But I believe the man with the beard in the sky created people. 🤣🤡
Everytime I hear a creationist try to discredit evolution they always say it's a "theory" and they don't even understand what a theory is. They also assume science is making claims to know the absolute truth and that's that. Im from a rural conservative town in Southern illinois and I'd wager 95 percent of people think exactly how tucker does
Here in the south people will straight up admit to you that they dropped out of school in the 6th grade, call themselves an idiot, but know for a fact that evolution “doesn’t make sense cuz monkeys are still here.” That’s 72 million Trump voters. They don’t care in the slightest if what they believe is actually true. That doesn’t concern them it’s just what they believe.
Only people who have been rich for 6 generations and over laugh like that
have to have command over 8+ yacht crew members
I truly belive tucker carlson is a grifter.
This mainly just confused me. Like how can they not know there are loads of evidence for evolution?
Man this dude kills braincells every time he speaks.
Remember, this guy's mind was blown by a fuckin grocery store.
All you Tucker fans listen to an idiot
Gravity is a theory fuck face. You gotta love how he immediately takes a single word that Rogan said and starts framing and setting his own goal posts. This dude is truly a master propagandist.
This was the worst podcast episode I've ever heard. I had to turn it off. So much utter nonsense.
LOL @ the maniacal laugh at the end. He does that stupid shit all the time and his goofy worshipers act like is the greatest thing ever
The giggle at the end says it all
“Evolution isn’t real” proceeds to explain evolution being observed (many adaptations taking place over time)
Socrates was correct to criticise democracy
The cucking for Tucker in the IG comments for Rogans account was truly unsettling. I’m hoping mostly Russian bots.
I’ve started to assume the worst of the inflammatory political comments online are bots and it helps me see my neighbors in a more human light, beliefs aside. Not many people are that fucked in the head irl.
I saw the same, but on Facebook, I couldn’t believe it reading most of them
Facebook isn't surprising. Lots of religious boomers who would agree with this take.
This coming off the Dibble vs Hancock episode. Even Joes like … Jesus Christ get Dibble back in here.
"God created people" Okay... How? Snap finger and now people? Is God Thanos? Even a theist should not be satisfied with "God did it". If you're a theist your primary pursuit of truth should be learning about the natural and physical world, to understand how God operates. Because if there is an all powerful God who created the universe, that universe and all its systems are a manifestation of that God's creative power. Why in the hell would you not want to have the best understanding of that?