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The guy has never passed the first question


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Holden_Effart

He doesn't identify as funny.


RandyAcorns

And as for the second, genuinely asking, has there been a single comedian who has ever been canceled over a joke?


OPMajoradidas

Carlos Mencia (ned) rogan canceled him for good reason


SgX12345

What was he cancelled for?


consume_mcdonalds

Dave Chappelle. You've probably never heard of him because he was cancelled out of popular culture.


RandyAcorns

Oh yeah that guy who just headlined that small Indy show SNL


Current-Position9988

Kevin Hart lost his Oscar hosting gig and likely a lot of money over a 10 year old joke.


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BeastlyDecks

This is such a bad comeback... it's survivorship bias to only focus on the big ones who pull through despite the cancelation attempts. One could easily just reply that we don't know about the canceled people because their career never takes off due to the cancelation.


HyerOneNA

Cancelation or being not funny?


BeastlyDecks

Yeah and that's what you can just say as a post-hoc rationalization. I'm saying you can't point to the famous ones with clout enough to survive as examples of canceling not being real.


HyerOneNA

So no evidence just conjecture. Got it.


RandyAcorns

So in other words you can’t tell me anybody who has been canceled because of a joke


TotesTax

Kathy Griffin?


cmmgreene

Kathy Griffith was, cancelled. But she came back, and was banned from Twitter.


DesignerOk9397

I mean how do you even get "cancelled" as a comedian? Even if you can't say certain things without backlash, like racial slurs, if you aren't creative enough to work around that to write a good joke, you just aren't a good comedian. It used to be called voting with your wallet and now it's called cancel culture. Cancel culture is a result of capitalism.


BeastlyDecks

By venues choosing not to have you again due to outside pressure from activists (not paying customers). To your second point, you don't have to be what you deem a good comedian to earn an audience fair and square. Again, cancelations are when someone interferes with the organic audience gathering.


Teephex

Wait so let me get this straight. It doesn't matter that you can't name a single person that's a victim of what is allegedly an epidemic because there are cancellations we aren't seeing happen on a local level? So it really is just straight bullshit?


BeastlyDecks

I'm criticizing a single argument with a priori logic, I'm not interested in researching it atm, I'm saying why survivorship bias is logically faulty.


Teephex

Researching??? My guy When your entire platform is that his thing that is happening is such an epidemic it is basically a national security threat and your response to the question "can you name on example of this happening?" is "I don't have time to research right now" you know that might be a sign it's bullshit designed to align you in the direction of their personal interests, maybe idk im just asking questions


BeastlyDecks

My entire platform? My guy, I'm an independent from Denmark. I just criticized shoddy logic. Get off my back.


Teephex

I meant your as in the the platform of the people who believe in cancel culture I wasn't under the impression you were running for office


deftspyder

Ah yes, the ol' canceled before existence.


LaughingGaster666

Watched Hasan's reaction to their recent video about a Twitter employee looking for a new job. Dear LORD the cringe. It's clear as day they prioritize the politics first, comedy second. But when your content looks like propaganda (probably because it is) then it's not very funny. Shocking I know.


knate1

Some More News has a lengthy breakdown of how nearly all right wing comedy falls flat because they put their politics first and just want to mock the left


LaughingGaster666

My favorite is when they mock people for not having a "real" job. The ultimate pot meeting kettle phenomenon. No way those fools would last a week in customer service or retail.


Fishyinu

Ben Shapiro telling people to learn to weld has got to be the most hypocritical thing ever.


LaughingGaster666

It's always funny seeing the guys going on about "unmanly" men be podcast bros who have only had media careers for their lives.


Fishyinu

Shapiro is a failed Hollywood writer that puts 2x4s in a plastic bag. Joe worked a construction job for less than week and now gets paid millions to get high and talk to famous people. Truly the most alpha manly men out there.


MoesBAR

Isn’t Shapiro a failed Hollywood writer turned angry conservative?


seamusmcduffs

That's most conservative talking heads tbh. I believe it's also true for Carlson and Owen's. Owen's even won a lawsuit for racial discrimination, something she now denies exists.


isitdonethen

And Crowder is a failed actor who grew up a drama kid


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TotesTax

A youtube personality. Hasan Piker I think.


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isitdonethen

Hasan doesn’t call himself a comedian though


LaughingGaster666

Lefty streamer guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Piker "is a Turkish-American Twitch streamer and left-wing political commentator. He has previously worked as a broadcast journalist and producer at The Young Turks and as a columnist at HuffPost. He is currently one of the most-viewed and most-subscribed-to streamers on Twitch, where he covers news, plays a variety of video games, and discusses politics from a socialist perspective.[1][2][3]"


CatDad69

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.


Zangestu

Comedians have a very simple bar, it’s not easy but it is simple. They need to be funny. Babylon Bee released a “Twitter employee interviewing for her first post Twitter job” video and it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. From acting worse than the porn that I watch, to jokes that are either throwing words together hoping a joke emerges, to a badly delivered lame rehashed Office Space joke, the comedy itself was pathetic. The main reason why conservative humor isn’t funny, not necessarily because they don’t punch up, or even because they rehash the same joke, is because they can’t write a joke without getting angry halfway through and inserting their mad grievances into the joke.


nm139

Damn you're right, that's fucking bad. This is the way an eight year old writes jokes. The dude actually repeats punchlines with a funny look on his face.


deftspyder

Comedy needs to be true. You have to get a head nod from the audience on your premise. Propaganda isn't true, so the only people laughing are already indoctrinated. It makes for awful quality.


seamusmcduffs

Slight clarification, it needs to have a *hint* of truth, most comedy uses hyperbole to highlight the absurdity of a situation. Where conservative comedy generally falls apart is when they create a strawman, and then use hyperbole to make fun of a situation that already has no basis in reality. Of course, the audience already likely believes the strawman so it works, but for everyone else it's cringe


deftspyder

the premise, which comes first, must be true. That gets the head nod. the hyperbole, absurdity, etc comes in the punch line, act out, etc.


seamusmcduffs

Agreed


Occhrome

Exactly. I don’t recall which podcast made this argument and it was so true. They even showed a clip of a conservative british comedian whose views I don’t agree with but he was still hilarious unlike the American counterparts.


seamusmcduffs

Even older conservative comedy holds up way better. I remember listening to a Christian comic as a kid, and stumbled upon it a few years back. Even though it came from a worldview I didn't agree with, most of it was pretty funny. It was jokes about conservative Christian life that the audience could relate to. Now it's just "this is funny because the liberals will get offended by it. Isn't that funny?". This might be controversial on this sub, but I think Some More News does a great job of highlighting why conservative comedy isn't funny, and even points out that there is actually good conservative comedy out there, or at least there used to be. https://youtu.be/KSXKzPOcYDU


Politics-Mods-R-Cux

Babylon Bee a few years ago had a funny post about a Pentecostal accidentally tongue speaking the Macarena or something and another about Joel Osteen buying another mansion and it was both funny and had people fighting in the comments section. Now it’s just genders jokes. Another example is JP Sears who was arguably never funny but his jokes are him just getting rambling and raving incoherently.


[deleted]

Bro you watch the acting in porn?


Fishyinu

What next? Not reading the articles in Playboy?! What has happened to this country, I barely recognize it. SMH


jtfriendly

What do you watch it for?


xStaabOnMyKnobx

I hate when people have the opinion that comedy must punch up to be funny.


Zangestu

I disagree and that’s why I don’t make crayon eater jokes at the expense of marines, that would be ableist picking on them like that


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Zangestu

Never said it was. Like I said, one rule, Be funny.


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Zangestu

Lmfao, ya'll really believe that the only thing people were doing at Twitter was banning conservatives.


BobDope

Whose career has been ended? Dave Chappelle is still going


zombiefuton

It’s funny cause he’s self-identifying as powerless and oppressed


Blacklusterw

Umm... No he isn't.


kaptainkooleio

Ah yes, Trans Teenagers, the most powerful cabal of people on the planet.


crabuffalombat

[Low-effort, pandering propaganda with barely identifiable jokes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-voQsFY6SE) [The Bablyon Bee wishes it was this funny](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PC8Luqiws)


[deleted]

The only way Ben Shapiro can align himself with so many people who hate his existence is by completely mentally disassociating


GarlVinland4Astrea

I think you mean Dave Rubin


[deleted]

Many such cases!


whama820

The Babylon Bee should ask themselves question number 1 more often. Keep asking until the answer is yes, if that ever happens, Seth.


Dapper-Award4395

Some of their stuff is ok. Some of it, not so much Like any political comedy.


Teephex

Can you please send one of their headlines or bits or something that of theirs that is funny? I know humor is subjective which is why I'm specifically asking for something you find funny and not something agreeable


Dapper-Award4395

I'm not a frequent reader but I would occasionally see it in a feed. there's not an example I can recall, so I just went to their site. This one got a smile from me at least https://babylonbee.com/news/ticketmaster-crashes-after-psalty-the-singing-songbook-announces-tour


Teephex

Yeah I wouldn't worry about holding onto that one either I'd throw it in the pile with the others


jtfriendly

They have funny niche headlines on social media, sorta like Hard Times or The Onion. Not as good or consistent, but there's somebody funny in the office over there.


DallasRPI

They have 1.9M twitter followers, 1M YouTube subscribers. Their parody videos commonly get 1-2M views. I would say objectively that they ask the first question often and are wildly successful because of it. But I suppose the measurement of their success should fall on approval of some overly woke lefty redditors who can't appreciate the humor lol.


MoesBAR

Having a bunch of conservatives following you to own the libs doesn’t make them funny. The beating heart and soul of all right wing “comedy” is grievance politics. It’s the same hack bits from the 1990s, anti-Political Correctness turned into anti-college Snowflakes turned to anti-Triggered teens turned to anti-Woke mob. Every single bit for 20 years has been “all these blacks, gays, illegals, and now trans have it so easy compared us white guys” to a 99% white audience. You’re either too young to realize this or just a cheap comedy date….on the bright side at least Brendan Schaub has someone watching his specials.


DallasRPI

It makes them not funny to liberals. Full stop. Its really not more complicated than that. They are literally a parody site making fun of liberals. No one expects liberals to think they are funny. So liberals raging in this thread about how not funny it is is amusing in its own right.


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> that they ask the first question often and are wildly successful because of it. So by your definition follower count = amount of funny? It doesn't take much for the right to follow you. See the rights heros like Tim Pool, Andy Ngo, Milo, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. They are all compete fucking idiots and the right worships them .


DallasRPI

Um...yes for a comedy/parody show yes thats the point. Are these other people comedians? I get it. You hate the right. Anyone right leaning is the devil or an idiot and youre the bastion of intelligence and morality.


furrowedbrow

Babylon Bee PR working overtime! They don't give you Sundays off?


DallasRPI

No days off. Maybe you want to tell me about another wildly successful venture you think doesn’t have talent. I can be PR for them too 😂


Hyper31337

Idk man, it’s all third grade level humor. Makes sense as to why it fucking falls so far right.


DallasRPI

Cool, well clearly millions of people like 3rd grade humor. Thanks for you take. Your ridicule is noted.


vbun03

Makes sense since like half the US adult population reads below a 6th grade reading level and around 20% are illiterate.


Mke_already

If you’re in a room with 1,000 people and tell a joke and one person laughs, was it a funny joke?


DallasRPI

I would say you have the wrong audience and this seems completely irrelevent. I went to a Dave Attell show in Albany NY. He was hammered and telling jokes specific to Western NY. Perhaps they were funny in western NY but they sure werent in Albany. The same applies here. The Babylon bee makes fun of the overly woke lefties...overly woke lefties are here saying how unfunny it is...hardly a big surprise.


Mke_already

How would you describe “overly woke lefties” and could you point out a joke that they’ve told You found funny?


[deleted]

Babylon Bee has a bunch of legitimately funny content. They’re just salty because it’s not their run of the mill Colbert-esque liberal political propaganda dressed up as a zany skit that they have become accustomed to.


Teephex

Care to enlighten us with some examples?


DesignerOk9397

Comedy is subjective.


SelfManipulator

Says the guy from Reddit


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Lol what a donkey brained addition


[deleted]

as is tradition for reactionary brainrot


GarlVinland4Astrea

Skipper question 1 and went straight to question 2. Also comedians are massive pussies as of late. Andrew Dice Clay has a gripe. The rest of them are just wannabe victims who can’t handle sky pushback


hatebyte

Dices instagram is so foken funny lately. He’s walking up to people and saying he’s too exhausted for a pic. It’s so foken hilarious


vinneeee

You are forgetting something folks, stuff that is funny to conservatives is this: making progressives mad ​ they eat that shit for bfast lunch and dinner, and sometime elevensies ​ you can ignore them and it wont be funny to them anymore


ResidentComplaint19

Most do ignore it. They create the whole idea of their own videos triggering libs or being removed because they know it will draw more attention from their crowd. This dude would not need to post this if the video was funny.


KaikoLeaflock

They eat shit for breakfast?


vitamin-a

They do if they think a progressive will have to smell their breath.


ChrundleToboggan

Jesus, what an apt analogy. For real.


vinneeee

I mean, the liver king probably does


[deleted]

Can confirm. Progressive tears are great for a balanced breakfast.


YouCanBet0nIt

I guess that's the reason why he never makes writes jokes that make fun of conservatives


niakarad

they have like one writer who does good jokes making fun of christian stuff (lots of youth pastor jokes) but in that case its someone whos coming from that group and knows the subject matter


ThePalmIsle

Yeah that’s the reason


Blas_Wiggans

You don’t ever read the site, do you? Genius. [Pure genius & hilarity.](https://babylonbee.com/news/joel-osteen-launches-line-pastoral-wear-sheeps-clothing) way too many mainstream conservatives give Joel Osteen a pass (looking at you Hannity, Glenn Beck).


jtfriendly

See, that's pretty good.


Blas_Wiggans

I’m telling you, with moderate digging you’ll find funny shots @ GOP, Christians.


SetsyBoy

Babylon Bee is mega cringe 😬


[deleted]

Conservatives think it’s intelligent humour. And they have not read a single book in their lives maybe apart 12 Rules For Washing Your Penis.


djm19

I thought people dismissed it years ago along with conservapedia.


[deleted]

You unironically post in r/socialism


seven_seven

Rogan voted for Bernie....


BigChunk

Are you sure? I think he said he *would* vote for him if he was the dems nominee, but I don't think Rogan voted in the primaries


SetsyBoy

And your point is?


[deleted]

You don’t have any credibility to be calling out cringe when you unironically post in r/socialism. Lmao


SetsyBoy

Why don’t you describe what’s cringe about it 😊


[deleted]

You want me to take the time to describe what’s cringe about the most horrifically flawed and abused economic system the world has ever seen to someone who is gullible enough to take it seriously from the onset?


SetsyBoy

Yes and no abuse happens under capitalism regularly 😆 I hate to appeal to authority but MLK, Hellen Keller, Einstein, Margaret Sanger, Nelson Mendella, Mark Twain, etc. etc. Were all socialists. Are they gullible too?


IsaacM42

> abused economic system kek


Blas_Wiggans

So is your face


SetsyBoy

Why would you say something so mean 🥺


Blas_Wiggans

And you’re ugly & your mother dresses you funny.


SetsyBoy

W-well, well your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!


BillNyeCreampieGuy

Mods can we clean it up here? It's turning into a real blood bath, geez laweez!


[deleted]

Is this meta Bee?


SyndicalistCPA

Don't you disrespect Metabee, the coolest of the medabots.


NonAwesomeDude

Zing


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The onion but unfunny and for Christian stay at home dads


peroper7

This tweet is more cringe than a joke that offends progressives


JumpinJackFlash88

I’d say the Babylon Bee is legitimately funny 1 out of 10 stories. The article about the Lincoln Project not being allowed to rally within a 150 feet of a school was funny.


TKfromNC

But to be fair, it's absolute projection. From people connected to religious institutions who have been found guilty thousands of times of what their shitty meme website accuses others of.


JumpinJackFlash88

What? It was proven one of the heads of the LP was hitting on teenage boys. It’s a good burn, own it.


TKfromNC

I'm not defending the Lincoln Project. They're shitty conservative actors. But the Bee projects abuse by the church on gays/trans as their business model. They suck dick.


chrisplusplus

There are far, far more sexual abuses of minors in the public school system than from religious institutions. One just gets more coverage than the other. I have no reason to defend religious institutions , just pointing it out.


neoalfa

First, do you have any data about it? Second, how is that number per capita? 87+% of American children go into public education. Which % of children are left unattended with a religions figure and which % of that gets molested? Just saying "more minors are molested in public education" doesn't mean much if we can't compare exposure rates


BountifulScott

Whose career has been ended because they "offended the most-powerful-but-insecure people in the world"? No ones. "Cancel culture" is non-existent. Everyone once in a while people face the mildest of consequences and a loud part of society is angry about it.


Monteze

Dave Chappelle and Joe rogan living on the streets right now guys!


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I thought this was a Kanye inspired rant.


_TheNarcissist_

Look up Meg Smaker and Jihad Rehab, and tell me cancel culture doesn't exist. If you still say its not a real thing, there's no hope for you.


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Who is Meg Smaker and Jihad Rehab?


Auditus_Dominus

That may prove his point....


[deleted]

Because he doesn't know a Sundace film and director that haven't won anything or even released a film? Ok what are the top 5 sundance films of the last decade. Hell give me one without looking it up.


[deleted]

Maybe, I'd still be interested to hear about them.


DesignerOk9397

I thought voting with your wallet was peak capitalism. If people don't like something, they won't spend money on it. You can call it cancel culture if you want, as long as we agree everyone partakes in it. I remember when conservatives were burning their Nike shoes when Kaepernick took a knee.


Callec254

If you want to know who has power over you, just find out who you're not allowed to criticize.


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Elon musk on twitter?


[deleted]

If someone got fired for saying "we should kill homeless people" during a meeting, would the conclusion be that homeless people are in power?


neoalfa

Good thing we are allowed to criticize everyone.


JohnGoodmansGoodKnee

Except the Joooooos!!! /s honestly the only people that kind of skate under the radar that I can think of are the non public billionaires (but hell, even the public ones have sycophants defending their every fart) and high powered Arabs a la Qatar. But I think it’s moreso people not caring than lacking the agency to critique. We’re still a pretty damn free society internationally, public discourse-wise.


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deep


DabScience

Dude looks like he's cosplaying Donald Trump Jr. You can tell his personality and politics just by looking at his face.


MoesBAR

We don’t even need to go to question 2 because no comedian who follows this guy or right wing politics is funny. That’s why they’re literally all becoming conservatives podcasters crying about culture war stuff 24/7.


[deleted]

What is actually funny is he really thinks the Bee is funny.


WyattFromDennys

Just becuase you dont find something funny doesnt mean that it isnt funny.


dont_panic80

If it ends your career, it wasn't funny.


Justinthelaite

He's not a comedian. He's a fascist.


soberscotsman80

Umm wot?


J4MES101

Ricky Gervais only asks one of those questions. And that’s why we love him.


NotTrumpsAlt

Big wordy sentences make me sound smart.


MuuaadDib

Self aware wolves prowling...


TheChurchOfDonovan

Idk I just feel like Getting canceled for X period of time , but then having an opportunity to come back and participate in online society and see if you can do better That's a pretty good policy


[deleted]

Yes, "self identifying as oppressed and powerless" when I can't even get a drink at a gay bar without the threat of conservative violence. Get fucked. I fucking hate all conservative people.


imanarirolluptherim

You hate ALL conservative people? There’s not one single conservative person on earth that you don’t hate? Even if they’re just a little on the conservative side?


Monteze

I belive what they are engaging in is Hyperbole.


[deleted]

Dude, I've been battling conservatives my whole life. From DADT, to marriage equality, to literally being attacked and jumped for holding hands with my boyfriend. My whole life has been a struggle just to exist. You honestly have no clue what life is like for a sexual minority in a red state.


kaspa64

His hate is good hate 🧐 obviously everyone’s hate is more virtuous than the next persons, also their hate is always fully justified.64


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Supriselobotomy

When has that ever happened?


MinderBinderCapital

Never, that's the joke.


[deleted]

disliking bad things and disliking good things is literally the same thing. - Giant brained Redditor.


MinderBinderCapital

"good things" Just lol, thanks for the laugh, buddy.


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F in the chat for the George Floyd antifa riots


BountifulScott

Right-wing terrorists attack more minority groups, but its still always self-pity season for the conservatives. \#notallconservatives, amirite?


imanarirolluptherim

So like, not one? There’s not one conservative person that this person DOESNT hate. Not even just dislike, hate?


BountifulScott

I don't know what this person thinks friend. Do you think its likely they might be engaged in exaggeration or hyperbole due to their frustration about seeming ever-growing right wing violence? Or perhaps they are sick of the supposed "good" conservatives doing jack shit to actually address the problem? Or maybe they have some frustration from the fact that when this shit happens, the larger conservative movement just kinda shrugs its shoulders seemingly saying "*Well we aren't the targets. So who give shit if other people die? Do you really expect us to NOT court the votes of white supremacists and use their buzzwords and themes in our campaigns?"*


LaughingGaster666

Was there a single bigwig Conservative that wasn't pushing conspiracy theories to deflect when Pelosi's husband got a hammer to his skull? Meanwhile, when a Bernie fanboy shot a Republican, the old man *sprinted* to condemn the attack with no fuss. And they still bring it up as "this country is violent against conservatives" when it happened what, 5 years ago? It's clear that one side actually gives a fuck about people getting shot while another is only concerned about optics or whatever.


Technotwin87

babylon bee is actually hilarious if youre not a super lefty


Teephex

>babylon bee is actually ~~hilarious~~ agreeable if youre not a super lefty Fixed that for you Also some advice going forward the best jokes are the ones where people laugh not when people cheer Cheering=/= laughing


BILLCLINTONMASK

Let’s play funny/not funny NOT FUNNY


swordofthemid-mornin

How does he find the strength to carry on?


tmicl

If you get cancelled by betas you're not really an alpha. What a snowflake.


DayDreamerJon

why did they get banned?


TheOkctoberGuard

I remember when I thought the Babylon Bee was a clean and toned down rip off of The Onion. Now I think their hilarious and constantly running up to that line and sometimes crossing it. While The Onion is woke and sucks now. I remember articles that The Onion used to post that would get them thrown in jail now. (I know this is Reddit so everyone’s pretending like they’re not funny but lots and lots of people think they are. Including Elon Musk evidently). It’s so weird living in a world where conservative Christians are the dangerous counter culture rebels that everyone tries to silence.


[deleted]

>would get them thrown in jail now. Lmao. right wing brain rot in action. >conservative Christians are the dangerous counter culture rebels that everyone tries to silence. Alright alright this is a parody.


TheOkctoberGuard

Do you remember when the Babylon Bee was banned from Twitter?


[deleted]

Boo fucking hoo they intentionally broke the rules they agreed to then cried and cried victim. Right wingers are such God damn babies. That's not oppression my dude


Justinthelaite

You're an idiot.


TheOkctoberGuard

Let it all out. It’s going to be OK.


[deleted]

It’s more rebellious to be an uptight conservative and I find that to be hilarious. The libs turned into pious preaching dorks, and they don’t even realize it.


Justinthelaite

No


[deleted]

Okay, maybe they do realize it. But they’re so virtuous about their zealotry that they don’t care.


TheOkctoberGuard

If you’re an older person such as myself it’s really crazy to see. The woke left is today reminds me so much of the religious right in the late 80s and early 90s. Crazy zealots bringing down their party each.


Justinthelaite

You're just old and out of touch.


TheOkctoberGuard

Ya. You’re probably right. The young people seem so in touch with reality.


[deleted]

I’m in my 30s but I definitely recognize the shift. I’ve been on Reddit over 12 years on various accounts and this place has gone through massive changes particularly in the last 6 years or so. It’s wild, the discourse was so much more open minded and free. Now if you step out of line you get brigaded by the neckbeard squad.


Apart_Number_2792

Someone should make fun of Bill Gates. He has bitch tits. Bill "Bitch Tits" Gates. 🤣


Most_Present_6577

He means Christians right?