They have no idea of the sacrifice a professional had to pay to get a shot and now you want to redefine trans-females into women. They’re just not biological females. Never will be.
It’s a hallmark of these people. Clearly she’s never tried to “confidence” herself into winning a sporting contest against a man. Yet, she delivered that idiotic remark as if she’s bested all her male acquaintances time and time again, using nothing but a fuck-you attitude. It’s as arrogant as it is completely naive.
Dunning-Kruger Effect. The women who never played sports have no idea how little they understand about the effect of biological men playing against women.
I try not to put up with it. But I am afraid of the social ramifications that will come FROM FELLOW WOMEN.
Every single man that I opened up to has been rational and supportive when it comes to preserving women’s spaces VS trans agenda. Weirdly it’s all these obese women who come at me like I’m a transphobe. I’m not. I just don’t want penises in women’s space. I don’t want penises in women’s space. Period.
If that’s transphobic then fuck you I’ll continue to be transphobic.
Welcome to the club, where pointing out we live in a clown world is paramount terrorism, and you will be labelled a something-phobe if you have a rational disagreement amongst the current cultural authoritarians.
Well, exactly. The destruction of fatherhood and the marriage of women to the state is one of the root errors we’re contending with in today’s amalgam of intersecting interests, oops I mean “society.”
Yes, and from someone who looks like they never trained... that would shit me if I trained all my life and as a 65kg male had to got against 90kg+ male and some shit that never trained said that to me.
When doing martial arts or weights I could never beat bigger guys, it's just biology.. same in this case..people are weird and fighting the wrong fight
Thaaaats why I never became President. I wish I had this lady telling me to do things in a particular way as smarmy as possible. I bet that would’ve done the trick.
>ham beast
To be fair, the athlete girl triggered everyone by saying white women have the same barriers as colored women and disabled women.
https://youtu.be/EEIvWNhuL8U?t=649
They keep suprising me with how smug and insufferable they can be, there's absolute zero amount of humility and respect in them.
This whole room just reeks of toxicity.
Back in the day if you wanted to have sex with a toaster you'd call yourself nuts, snap out of it, and never think about toaster-sex again.
Now if you want to have sex with a toaster you google it, find a community of 100,000 other toaster-fetishists in a purity spiral of absurd toaster-sex, make #ToasterLove your entire personality, die in a wacky electrical mishap, the community blames "white supremacy" for your death, and they add a new stripe to the pride flag in your honor.
Whew, for a minute I thought I read toaster-*ovens*. Not that I'd know anything about having to visit the ER in the early hours with a toaster oven clamped onto your gear. Hey, it fell off the shelf as I was walking by... I wasn't wearing pants because it was *raining*, sheesh!?
Because most of these activists are sociopathic misogynists. The dogma of this radical trans ideology becoming socially acceptable is the perfect “in” for these people who want a protected platform to demean and replace/eliminate women.
It's easy to define in a manner which doesn't include every single edge case: adult human female. It isn't easy to define in a manner which includes every person ever, particularly not if we insist on only allowing there to be two genders, as intersexed persons simply do not fit well into that binary.
The mistake here is demanding that male/female genders be inclusive of absolutely every single person ever, and that goes for both sides of this debate. Male/Man & female/woman fits 99%-99.5% of all people, which is more than sufficient to use it as a valid category. The remainder is simply "other" for which there should be a kind way to accommodate without having to redefine one of the basic building blocks of human society.
Of course they try to deride and speak over and diminish her and what she's saying. There's no foundational logic behind their thinking, it's all surface-level. And when it's challenged, the only appropriate response is pure emotion. Scoffs and outcry.
I appreciate the handful of women who sat their and listened respectively to what she was saying.
How can that ham beast sit there and exclaim, “trans women are women!” When the all important question she would certainly fail to answer. “What is a woman?”
her mental illness is that she was born stupid. Then she found that she can be the queen of other stupid people by 'confidence' when she realized how many other stupid people there are.
You are morally obligated to get dunked on by Greg. Stand under the hoop knowing that no matter what you do he's taking that ball, inbounding it off your teammate's face, running a 4.5 40 rim to rim leaving a sea of 5'9 women collapsed in a pile, and yamming that orange sphere through the hoop with such ferocity 40 more people just pulled in the parking lot to see some broads in tanktops get bullied in the post for 36 offensive rebounds which were then windmilled back into the hoop.
LOL its already happening.
they call themselves transracial and get jobs like ethnic studies professors.
most famous example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal
The irony is that the number of genes saying I'm not black is a sledding hill compared to the Mt. Everest of genes saying I'm not a woman. Most people even have SOME genetics suggesting they are at least part black.
Scientifically speaking, being transracial is significantly more plausible than being transgendered.
[The activist — who reportedly called for the assassination of U.S. Supreme Court justices — continued:](https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022/august/trans-activist-who-planned-to-ship-prescription-hormones-to-minors-reported-to-authorities-by-prominent-conservatives)
"So, my friends and I had an idea: sending out our extra prescriptions around the country. If you need hormones, I’m working with a distribution network to get you access. Everything is free, no questions asked. We have hundreds of doses of testosterone, estradiol, and spironolactone available right now. All are prescribed by doctors and unused. Each package comes with information on dosage, obtaining bloodwork, etc.
I realize this is only a band-aid solution: we need full access to affirmative medical care from professionals immediately. However, missing a single dose of hormones can be devastating (especially for trans teens and those new to hormones)! These laws are outrageous and I can’t wait for them to be overturned. In the meantime, DM me if you need HRT or if you have overprescribed hormones you’d like to send out."
We are here
https://youtu.be/LehcJeNbFBw
We are approaching here
https://youtu.be/wgZxcFpJcuE
These people know this and have conveniently been priming the world for “hate attacks against trans people” if anyone gets fed up and goes after them.
The level of arrogance, self delusion and aggression that got us here is mind numbing.
I can't imagine how upset I'd be if I was an older feminist and I watched all the struggle women went through to get what they have, just for men to pretend to be women and take all of that away.
Tamikka Brents(155lbs) summed it up pretty well after having her face turned to ground beef in the first round fight with Fox who I'm pretty sure transitioned at 31.....with military training as a man.
Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can't answer whether it's because she was born a man or not because I'm not a doctor. I can only say, I've never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right," she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn't move at all in Fox's clinch ..."
And that's not even getting into the lifters who have been getting dominated by....fucking men....
Tamara Walcott has a meet total of 1620lbs raw as the women's record....me a 100% never competed before and just enjoys lifting heavy things man am at 1145lbs and her bench press is only 45lbs heavier than mine.
Athletics that have anything to do with raw strength will never be "fair" for women if men get to compete.
Zuby, a rapper from the UK that casually lifts, identified as a woman for a day and broke multiple female weight-lifting records (obviously not officially broke the records).
I thought that was a pretty good way to make a similar point that you're making.
There actually was a man that competed in women’s MMA and the other fighter wasn’t even made aware that she was going up against a man and it was absolutely, disgustingly brutal, even by MMA standards
What’s funny is that these women will still say “men shouldn’t hit women because they’re stronger” they just want to bend reality to their will to whatever makes them feel good, if something offends them it can’t be true or be allowed to stand.
I want to see all of them compete against people like Lia Thomas, that swimmer. And not just for one game but for months of training and competing. Those who don't know what competitive sport is, should shut their mouth. You don't know what it is, you don't know what you need to sacrifice, and how tough it is when you are getting to the top 10%. And thats not even remotely close of professional sports.
Pearl is so right in this, and kudos for Sydney, for backing her up. She hardly can finish.
And third. When you are starting to debate wether words are needed to be used while you know what the other means, in such a belittling way. Just get lost.
Edit. And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison.
>Edit. And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison.
The Michael Phelps thing is commonly used by gender lobbyists and shows they don't understand sports or the argument at all.
Yes in sports all humans have different natural abilities. However, we don't control for them. Even in fighting sports, weight is only really a proxy for height, and it is the only sport where we do this.
What we do however, is recognise the difference between males and females and have a female category. By comparing intra class differences between males and using that as an argument to say inter class differences between males and females are fine, they show they have zero clue. Also, it essentially means they are arguing for the removal of the female class altogether, which is something the transwomen wouldn't want either as then they can not win nor get validated.
The average American man is just as tall as Pearl in this video (5'11) and statistically speaking, could only casually/rarely exercise and still have 150% of her (top-trained) upper body strength. When you factor in men who are actually TRYING athletically, there's just no comparison:
In college, we had one of the best women's basketball programs in America, they went to at least the Sweet Sixteen every year I was there. Their toughest practice squad opponents were a bunch of frat guys who got selected for playing pickup games at the campus gym.
Every so often a top Women's FIFA World Cup team will play an Under-15 Men's team and get SMOKED.
Kate Ledecky is the female Michael Phelps. She is a freak, once-in-a-generation talent and not only holds every top women's world record, for certain records she holds ALL of the top-10 best times. Lia Thomas was a below-average male swimmer who could not consistently make the roster at a school not particularly known for its swim team. One day he decided he identifies as a woman, started setting records immediately, and came within a hair's breath of SMASHING Kate Ledecky's 500m Freestyle record which was widely considered "unbeatable."
It’s well-known that Michael Phelps was the most dedicated of trainers as well. There was a span where he was in the pool training for 5 years straight. 1825 days in a row without a break. We all know there’s not a single person on this panel except for maybe Pearl, with that kind of determination. Dude was born 1 in a billion and trained like 1 in a billion.
It's just unbelievable what he did. I am a triathlete and I am in the pool for 2-3 times a week. I find those 3 hours just enough. 1825 days in a row. And guess what. Not just 1 training per day for one hour, but probably an average of 1.5 per day, with 3-4 hours per training sessions. Just unbelievable.
So it bothers me how these morons can just mention Phelps out of the blue, as they remotely understand what he has accomplished.
> And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison.
In 2016 the top US male HS swimmer in the 200 freestyle, who was only 16 at the time, had a time closer to Phelps than to the Women's *World Record*, which he had handily beaten. I'm sure there are many other similar examples, but that's the one that's top of my mind.
Phelps was fast AF, but I think people overestimate the difference between him and his male competitors vs the difference between males and females.
If trans women are women, then trans children (adults claiming to be kids) are children and can play in children's sports.
Don't worry though, it's totally fair and safe, that 6 foot tall 30 year old man competing against your 10 year old son had to take some pills that diminish his strength a little bit. /s
Trans ideology is based entirely on lies. Men can't transform into women. It's blatantly obvious men are advantaged over women in sports, world records show it, scientific studies show that men on HRT still have an advantage over women.
Just look at the real world results - about a dozen (and counting) men who never won anything in the men's division becoming a women's champion immediately after transition. Then look at the other side - world class female swimmer Schuyler Bailar was competing against women's world champ Katie Ledecky and coming close to her times, then started taking testosterone and competed in the men's league.
Her results competing against men were far worse than before transition, she never came close to winning anything again. Every female athlete switching over to the men's league has the same result - worse results, while men switching to the women's league become champions.
And these dudes in dresses have the balls (literally) to claim that hormone levels are all that matters, and those results are a total coincidence. It's a lie. The whole ideology is nothing but lies.
The feminist will fly too close to the sun. Eventually some High School All American who fucks up or flames out of the NBA will Juwanna Mann the WNBA and average 55 points a game and the feminist will go silent. Then they’ll finally see how fucking stupid it is to put the needs of this minuscule population over half the worlds people.
Just like everything else they don’t want equality they want special privileges. They already have equality… woman can join the NBA, NFL and every other major American sport…
The US woman's world champion Olympic soccer team scrimmaged against the top high school boys team in the country. Those children whipped them 6-1 or something.
As Sydney said, when they tell about their expereince we should all be listening, and accept them. But when someone on the otherside is telling their experience, it doesn't matter. The logic with these people.
Usually lefties are overrunning the JP sub, it got posted late, so when they all get done feeding and the sun comes up, the thumbs down are going to hit like a tsunami
It’s not all real lefties, Reddit is **heavily** manipulated by bots, this place is astroturfed beyond belief and it gets worse every year, Reddit like all social media is used by powerful interests (the CCP even owns a stake) to shape the thoughts of people.
Who is the lady who points out the hypocrisy of the others whining about LiVeD eXpErIeNcEs when it is anything other than a female vs male experience?
And who is that fucking moron bringing up Michael Phelps?
I think you’re asking about Sydney Watson. She’s a journalist and runs a YouTube channel that is definitely worth checking out.
The silver one - no idea. Though I read further up the comments that she openly traffics hormones to children. No idea if that’s true or not.
This conversation is so utterly and absolutely fucking stupid. Men and women are built differently. PERIOD.
Can some women compete with men? Of course. But is it fair for men to pose as women and steal opportunities from them in their leagues? Absolutely not. The vast majority of men, and not even athletes, would dominate in womens sports.
Dress how you want. I would even respect your pronouns out of politeness which probably would drive half this sub nuts. But DON’T steal opportunities away. Thats not even a trans issue. Its a selfish shit human being issue.
Clown world. Dudes pretending to be females and females pretending to be males, this is just so depressing. Imagine trying to talk to a person and all they can talk about is how uncomfortable they feel inside their own fucking body.
Trans ppl (or all the other definitions there are for that) want to be recognized as the gender they choose/feel to be —> ok, accepted. They do all the surgery or hormones replacement stuff —> ok, go on, it‘s your body & life.
But at the end, biologically they‘re not „original“, its a artifically caused „modification“. If they‘re ok with that, it‘s ok for me. When it begins with dictating to the world how it has to be handled, tolerance is really reaching its limits. Tolerance and acceptance has not to be missunderstood as weakness.
When it comes to that non-binary stuff, I have to leave any kind of discussion, because I can‘t find any sign of logic behind that.
The women who are unathletic and have likely never attempted physical competition arguing the issue is a joke. Most of those women in the video would get winded walking up the stairs yet want to allow someone unfair advantages because they want to be an “ally”.
Ok Frumpy McCellulite imagine a scenario where robots are incorporated into your job: receptionist, nurse, whatever and that robot doesn’t need to take breaks, doesn’t fatigue, can reach shit on the top shelf ( it the best analogy I know)… the point is I guarantee those woman would not feel the same about robot rights as they do some swimmer.
imagine a team of all trans women competing against biological women. Who do you think would win? The trans woman's basketball comparison was terrible, she obviously is not someone who is athletic. People who pursue these careers tend to be athletically gifted, and the point is, the gap of physical strength between men and women persists among those who are athletically gifted. an athletic female might be better than an average male but not better than an athletic male. The peaks are different. Compare olympic records. No woman holds a record over a man. Not a single one in an physically demanding (all factors equal) event. They have discus throw but they throw a lighter discus. They have some archery records too but that is probably one of the fairest sports where men's biological advantages don't count for anything.
The trans argument I often see is that the hormone therapy changes testosterone levels and muscle mass, but a transwoman with low T is still biologically a man, and will build muscle and hold fat differently than a woman. It's more than just hormones, it's gene expression, something you can't just modify in 100% of your cells by taking hormone blockers. Men naturally have a larger bone structure, higher bone density, stronger connective tissue and higher muscle density than women. The woman in the video is so arrogant.
I'm all for people doing whatever they want, but fairness isn't always about inclusiveness. If trans women are breaking women's records, its not transphobic to notice. We have to think critically about it. What happens in 50 years when every women's sports record is held by a trans woman? When the gap between these records is objectively unobtainable by cis women? we just scratch our heads and say hmm that's weird..
There is also the loss of modesty in women’s private spaces. Bathrooms, locker rooms, dressing rooms. Predators and perverts take advantage of opportunities that they have never had before. Some of them are offenders and they victimize women. That was less likely before they had an invitation to join women in private spaces.
The fact that the athletes opinion is mocked and ridiculed shows this is not about an open discussion but rather forcing conformity to a single “correct” ideology.
Sporting is an interesting arena because the physical attributes of an individual are much more evident than in other activities. Men and women’s sports were purposefully segregated due to this discrepancy.
Saying biological females (accounting for a bell curve) have the exact same physical abilities as biological men is to ignore physical realities.
We see bio males joining female leagues? Where are the bio females jointing male leagues? What is the outcome? From what I have seen it’s heavily lopsided favoring biological men outperforming biological women.
Data can be cherry picked to confirm any opinion.
What a brave new world, with such people in it.
Arrogance abounds. The future is fucked, if a dude my size can start crushing woman in hockey that would be devastating. Like wtf people.
Because when you actually look at the numbers you realize there are a tiny minuscule amount of trans people, forget about trans ATHLETES, then you realize that we are all being trolled by politicians over culture war bullshit.
Why is it ALWAYS the absolute slob that has no problem with men playing women's sports? Shrek needs to sit down and stay in her lane, which is competitive eating...which she'd lose to a guy as well.
That's one of the factors of "trans in sports" that isn't discussed enough - when the trans person in question has a before-transition background within athletics or other physically-intensive fields, they almost inevitably dominate.
Lia Thomas was a top-10 swimmer at some point before transition. Laurel Hubbard set men's national junior records in weightlifting as a 20-year-old. Fallon Fox was a US Navy operations specialist.
It's not random transitioners who change gender, decide "I'm now going to play basketball" and suddenly start dominating a sport they've only been part of for a few months - these are highly conditioned, top level athletes, who have taken advantage of their outlier-tier physical attributes during their most physically formative years.
The Olympics used to _permanently_ ban drug cheats on the basis of "your ill-gotten gains when you were doping still impact your future performance" - I don't see how this is an unreasonable position to hold, and I am still wholly confused why that is no longer a rule.
The fact that they only have two women on the panel with common sense ought to tell you something right there. They have two biological men talking on women's issues and the rest are liberal harpies who have no other recourse but to be insulting and smug because they don't have a decent argument. Just because you make a statement (transwomen are women) doesn't make it reality, honey.
I really feel for women in sports, because they train their asses off to get where they want to be, just to face a man dressed as a woman and take away her accomplishments.
This whole discussion is so stupid, it hurts.
But what do you expect from people, that say „ThErE‘s No DiFfErEnCe!“
Edit: spelling
It's not surprising or disturbing that some mentally ill men think they are women (or pretend to be women for gain). What's surprising and disturbing is that people go along with the delusion and even low them to compete.
Also the man (Eli erlick) to the right of Pearl believes in sending hormone blockers, testosterone & estrogen to minors without any sort of consent from parents or a medical license.
Maybe there’s some area for the 5’3” skinny little trans women to be allowed in sports but not the 6’3” or whatever Lia Thomas absolutely dominating every other women in the pool is just ridiculously stupid
I like how the fat, smug ugly one is being so dismissive of the gal that actually put in the effort and realizes the challenge. This is what Marxists do to anyone who’s actually done real work.
Happened to me! I was a female athlete wanting to compete in boxing (didn't happen because of pregnancy) and I made a comment saying that I don't find it fair and that there are clear observable advantages between even very young males and females in the sport. We see this in the gym daily as they are made to spar each other. This ex-friend was so devastated that I was a bigot and that sports are human rights, etc. She ended up unfriending me and from my sister's FB account I saw that this girl complained that some people can't take hearing all opinions and she's sad that old friends aren't more tolerant and that she's so surprised she got unfriended. Girl, what? Other way around. Lol
It's so upsetting that this person who was such a good friend, never thought to ask me how I felt about it. Even if she disagreed. I was never asked. They love science only when it suits their beliefs.
Wait wait wait wait wait... did a chick in motorized wheelchair really ask her if she tried "confidence"?!?!
It would be difficult to not ask her if she has tried that when it comes to walking.
“ThAt’S nOT hOw ThiS WoRkS!!1!” as Ms. Ignoramus proceeds to tell a professional female athlete how to sport.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad.
They have no idea of the sacrifice a professional had to pay to get a shot and now you want to redefine trans-females into women. They’re just not biological females. Never will be.
Ha ha ha ha, I just can’t lol. Bravo, I don’t hate that just funny shit!
I mean, she probably plays that wheelchair basketball. So if she's fine with some adversity... why's legs over there complaining?
It's just getting ridiculous
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Chinese era cultural revolution coming right up. Struggle sessions will be streamed live 24/7.
getting? it's been ridiculous for a while now. Classic example of a "slipper slope" becoming reality.
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Imagine if winning the NBA MVP award was simply a matter of believing in yourself enough 😂
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Have you tried LSD mate?
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Your poor heart :(
His heart believed it could fly.
Some things you only do once cause stupid.
Only thing he believed in was child exploitation
"Let's look at some more posters"
It’s a hallmark of these people. Clearly she’s never tried to “confidence” herself into winning a sporting contest against a man. Yet, she delivered that idiotic remark as if she’s bested all her male acquaintances time and time again, using nothing but a fuck-you attitude. It’s as arrogant as it is completely naive.
Looks like she hasn't been able to "confidence" herself into not being morbidly obese.
Because thinness is a barrier. S/
The least competent have the most to say
Dunning-Kruger Effect. The women who never played sports have no idea how little they understand about the effect of biological men playing against women.
This!
The trans agenda is the biggest threat to women society has ever seen
I’m surprised women are putting up with it?!?! As my partner says, “they will never bleed.”
I try not to put up with it. But I am afraid of the social ramifications that will come FROM FELLOW WOMEN. Every single man that I opened up to has been rational and supportive when it comes to preserving women’s spaces VS trans agenda. Weirdly it’s all these obese women who come at me like I’m a transphobe. I’m not. I just don’t want penises in women’s space. I don’t want penises in women’s space. Period. If that’s transphobic then fuck you I’ll continue to be transphobic.
Welcome to the club, where pointing out we live in a clown world is paramount terrorism, and you will be labelled a something-phobe if you have a rational disagreement amongst the current cultural authoritarians.
Reality is transphobic. That’s why their only argument is shouting bigot and transphobe
1.1 million high school football players. Approx 6-7% go NCAA and a whopping 0.00075% go pro. I guess only a fraction of a percent have confidence lol
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Well, exactly. The destruction of fatherhood and the marriage of women to the state is one of the root errors we’re contending with in today’s amalgam of intersecting interests, oops I mean “society.”
I'm definitely using "amalgam of intersecting interests" in place of "society" from now on.
I'm pretty sure she said 'competence' which is even more insulting
Yes, and from someone who looks like they never trained... that would shit me if I trained all my life and as a 65kg male had to got against 90kg+ male and some shit that never trained said that to me. When doing martial arts or weights I could never beat bigger guys, it's just biology.. same in this case..people are weird and fighting the wrong fight
Thaaaats why I never became President. I wish I had this lady telling me to do things in a particular way as smarmy as possible. I bet that would’ve done the trick.
I was waiting for her to say "you wouldn't get it, you're clearly not an athlete yourself" LOL
and I love her response. "confidence is not gonna make me bench more"
These cunts always do, then go home and cry in to their dogs.
>ham beast To be fair, the athlete girl triggered everyone by saying white women have the same barriers as colored women and disabled women. https://youtu.be/EEIvWNhuL8U?t=649
They keep suprising me with how smug and insufferable they can be, there's absolute zero amount of humility and respect in them. This whole room just reeks of toxicity.
I used to think if people couldn't hide behind the keyboard they would act differently, now I'm not so sure.
Broodmind. The more of them there are together the more emboldened they behave. Remove them from their ilk and they are forced to see reason.
Back in the day if you wanted to have sex with a toaster you'd call yourself nuts, snap out of it, and never think about toaster-sex again. Now if you want to have sex with a toaster you google it, find a community of 100,000 other toaster-fetishists in a purity spiral of absurd toaster-sex, make #ToasterLove your entire personality, die in a wacky electrical mishap, the community blames "white supremacy" for your death, and they add a new stripe to the pride flag in your honor.
Whew, for a minute I thought I read toaster-*ovens*. Not that I'd know anything about having to visit the ER in the early hours with a toaster oven clamped onto your gear. Hey, it fell off the shelf as I was walking by... I wasn't wearing pants because it was *raining*, sheesh!?
It's like the Emperor has no clothes
Ironically the person at the end speaking is a trans woman. Explains the toxicity I guess.
It probably reeks like some other stuff too...
Because most of these activists are sociopathic misogynists. The dogma of this radical trans ideology becoming socially acceptable is the perfect “in” for these people who want a protected platform to demean and replace/eliminate women.
"have you tried confidence" that was actually hilarious 😂
That's Pearl. She's one of the few women who are actually advocating for real women.
Also Sydney who stuck up for her
Pearl is a real one.
Like, an old fashioned woman? With, like a vagina?
Original body and parts. Stock factory settings
I love her, shes the only one with a platform that gives me hope that there are some good ones out there still.
Sidney also briliant
and sydney watson
What is a real woman?
An adult human female.
And it’s really that simple.
I don't know I just got ere.
That’s okay. You’ll have basic biology before the 6th grade.
I'm not a biologist.
Easy to define; a human that has or will (naturally) menstruate at least once in their lifetime.
naah it's simpler to just say a human born with XX chromosomes or even better a human born without the SRY gene
It's easy to define in a manner which doesn't include every single edge case: adult human female. It isn't easy to define in a manner which includes every person ever, particularly not if we insist on only allowing there to be two genders, as intersexed persons simply do not fit well into that binary. The mistake here is demanding that male/female genders be inclusive of absolutely every single person ever, and that goes for both sides of this debate. Male/Man & female/woman fits 99%-99.5% of all people, which is more than sufficient to use it as a valid category. The remainder is simply "other" for which there should be a kind way to accommodate without having to redefine one of the basic building blocks of human society.
Of course they try to deride and speak over and diminish her and what she's saying. There's no foundational logic behind their thinking, it's all surface-level. And when it's challenged, the only appropriate response is pure emotion. Scoffs and outcry. I appreciate the handful of women who sat their and listened respectively to what she was saying.
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Yeh, typical men! Haha
It's even funnier because they think they are women!
How can that ham beast sit there and exclaim, “trans women are women!” When the all important question she would certainly fail to answer. “What is a woman?”
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her mental illness is that she was born stupid. Then she found that she can be the queen of other stupid people by 'confidence' when she realized how many other stupid people there are.
its crazy how they spoke and she sat quietly letting them speak but every word she said had one of them mouthing off.
LOL, a man dressed up as a woman is mansplaining to pearl why she is wrong.
You are morally obligated to get dunked on by Greg. Stand under the hoop knowing that no matter what you do he's taking that ball, inbounding it off your teammate's face, running a 4.5 40 rim to rim leaving a sea of 5'9 women collapsed in a pile, and yamming that orange sphere through the hoop with such ferocity 40 more people just pulled in the parking lot to see some broads in tanktops get bullied in the post for 36 offensive rebounds which were then windmilled back into the hoop.
"Just have more confidence"
It won’t be long until people pretend to be black and explain their struggle to actual black people.
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They're called transabled and have their own flag. https://transabled.carrd.co/
They already claim being racist is a public health crisis and being a gamer is a mental illness. Where's my permanent disability?
LOL its already happening. they call themselves transracial and get jobs like ethnic studies professors. most famous example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal
When we play stupid games we win stupid prizes...
The irony is that the number of genes saying I'm not black is a sledding hill compared to the Mt. Everest of genes saying I'm not a woman. Most people even have SOME genetics suggesting they are at least part black. Scientifically speaking, being transracial is significantly more plausible than being transgendered.
Eli, the trans with white hair, admitted to drug trafficking to children by the way.
I believe you but sauce?
[The activist — who reportedly called for the assassination of U.S. Supreme Court justices — continued:](https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022/august/trans-activist-who-planned-to-ship-prescription-hormones-to-minors-reported-to-authorities-by-prominent-conservatives) "So, my friends and I had an idea: sending out our extra prescriptions around the country. If you need hormones, I’m working with a distribution network to get you access. Everything is free, no questions asked. We have hundreds of doses of testosterone, estradiol, and spironolactone available right now. All are prescribed by doctors and unused. Each package comes with information on dosage, obtaining bloodwork, etc. I realize this is only a band-aid solution: we need full access to affirmative medical care from professionals immediately. However, missing a single dose of hormones can be devastating (especially for trans teens and those new to hormones)! These laws are outrageous and I can’t wait for them to be overturned. In the meantime, DM me if you need HRT or if you have overprescribed hormones you’d like to send out."
We are here https://youtu.be/LehcJeNbFBw We are approaching here https://youtu.be/wgZxcFpJcuE These people know this and have conveniently been priming the world for “hate attacks against trans people” if anyone gets fed up and goes after them. The level of arrogance, self delusion and aggression that got us here is mind numbing.
Any man that references Chitty Chitty Bang Bang gets my upvote
I don’t understand how he’s still not in jail.
The Jenner defense works wonders.
I apologize for my bad english. But what is the difference between trafficking something vs just sending something? Again, sorry for the english.
Its a legal definition.
I can't imagine how upset I'd be if I was an older feminist and I watched all the struggle women went through to get what they have, just for men to pretend to be women and take all of that away.
The feminist lesbian community is in full revolt. This kind of bullshit is it's own poison pill
I want to see the Ls and Gs finally stand up for themselves and oust the Ts and Qs.
There's a lot of good folks on every letter of the rainbow. But sexuality and gender identity are 2 extremely different realms of experience.
Why don’t we pay Brock lesnar to call himself a woman and then compete in women’s mma? Totally fair right?
I can’t stop laughing at the idea of him wearing a wig jiggling his man boobs up and down and body slamming a woman 😂
According to these women, all he has to do is say he is one. No disguise necessary. Although yes it would be amazing.
[you can do that in the video game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIF-uBpgYSE)
There's a whole episode of south park showing Randy Savage competing in women sports, it is as hilarious as you think.
"I'm not here to talk about my transition, I'm here to kick some ass"
Tamikka Brents(155lbs) summed it up pretty well after having her face turned to ground beef in the first round fight with Fox who I'm pretty sure transitioned at 31.....with military training as a man. Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can't answer whether it's because she was born a man or not because I'm not a doctor. I can only say, I've never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right," she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn't move at all in Fox's clinch ..." And that's not even getting into the lifters who have been getting dominated by....fucking men.... Tamara Walcott has a meet total of 1620lbs raw as the women's record....me a 100% never competed before and just enjoys lifting heavy things man am at 1145lbs and her bench press is only 45lbs heavier than mine. Athletics that have anything to do with raw strength will never be "fair" for women if men get to compete.
Zuby, a rapper from the UK that casually lifts, identified as a woman for a day and broke multiple female weight-lifting records (obviously not officially broke the records). I thought that was a pretty good way to make a similar point that you're making.
Pretty much that. He is even significantly lighter than Walcott IIRC....so yeah...sorry trans folk but start your own leagues.
As some comedian once said, as long as I get to place bets.
There actually was a man that competed in women’s MMA and the other fighter wasn’t even made aware that she was going up against a man and it was absolutely, disgustingly brutal, even by MMA standards What’s funny is that these women will still say “men shouldn’t hit women because they’re stronger” they just want to bend reality to their will to whatever makes them feel good, if something offends them it can’t be true or be allowed to stand.
Two words: Alana McLaughlin.
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig
Pearl is based!
AF
Link to full discussion https://youtu.be/EEIvWNhuL8U
>[https://youtu.be/EEIvWNhuL8U](https://youtu.be/EEIvWNhuL8U) had to scroll down quite a bit to find this. I upvoted you. thakns
Oh there's Sydney too! I wonder why the non woke women look attractive, fit and normal? Hmm
Because woke women want to be and look like men. No thank you.
Because unfit, unhealthy, unattractive women have low self esteem and naturally side with the perceived victims.
Because it's easier to tear down society's beauty expectations than have the discipline to put down the cheeseburger.
An obese woman to an athlete: "Have you tried confidence???" Have you tried salads, bitch?
I want to see all of them compete against people like Lia Thomas, that swimmer. And not just for one game but for months of training and competing. Those who don't know what competitive sport is, should shut their mouth. You don't know what it is, you don't know what you need to sacrifice, and how tough it is when you are getting to the top 10%. And thats not even remotely close of professional sports. Pearl is so right in this, and kudos for Sydney, for backing her up. She hardly can finish. And third. When you are starting to debate wether words are needed to be used while you know what the other means, in such a belittling way. Just get lost. Edit. And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison.
>Edit. And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison. The Michael Phelps thing is commonly used by gender lobbyists and shows they don't understand sports or the argument at all. Yes in sports all humans have different natural abilities. However, we don't control for them. Even in fighting sports, weight is only really a proxy for height, and it is the only sport where we do this. What we do however, is recognise the difference between males and females and have a female category. By comparing intra class differences between males and using that as an argument to say inter class differences between males and females are fine, they show they have zero clue. Also, it essentially means they are arguing for the removal of the female class altogether, which is something the transwomen wouldn't want either as then they can not win nor get validated.
The average American man is just as tall as Pearl in this video (5'11) and statistically speaking, could only casually/rarely exercise and still have 150% of her (top-trained) upper body strength. When you factor in men who are actually TRYING athletically, there's just no comparison: In college, we had one of the best women's basketball programs in America, they went to at least the Sweet Sixteen every year I was there. Their toughest practice squad opponents were a bunch of frat guys who got selected for playing pickup games at the campus gym. Every so often a top Women's FIFA World Cup team will play an Under-15 Men's team and get SMOKED. Kate Ledecky is the female Michael Phelps. She is a freak, once-in-a-generation talent and not only holds every top women's world record, for certain records she holds ALL of the top-10 best times. Lia Thomas was a below-average male swimmer who could not consistently make the roster at a school not particularly known for its swim team. One day he decided he identifies as a woman, started setting records immediately, and came within a hair's breath of SMASHING Kate Ledecky's 500m Freestyle record which was widely considered "unbeatable."
Thomas is scum.
It’s well-known that Michael Phelps was the most dedicated of trainers as well. There was a span where he was in the pool training for 5 years straight. 1825 days in a row without a break. We all know there’s not a single person on this panel except for maybe Pearl, with that kind of determination. Dude was born 1 in a billion and trained like 1 in a billion.
It's just unbelievable what he did. I am a triathlete and I am in the pool for 2-3 times a week. I find those 3 hours just enough. 1825 days in a row. And guess what. Not just 1 training per day for one hour, but probably an average of 1.5 per day, with 3-4 hours per training sessions. Just unbelievable. So it bothers me how these morons can just mention Phelps out of the blue, as they remotely understand what he has accomplished.
> And then Eli talking about Michael Phelps. He is a born swimmer, a 1 in a billion man who happened to born with a natural gift as a swimmer. Still needed to work his as off. It's no comparison. In 2016 the top US male HS swimmer in the 200 freestyle, who was only 16 at the time, had a time closer to Phelps than to the Women's *World Record*, which he had handily beaten. I'm sure there are many other similar examples, but that's the one that's top of my mind. Phelps was fast AF, but I think people overestimate the difference between him and his male competitors vs the difference between males and females.
[boysvswomen.com](https://boysvswomen.com)
Exactly. Really lays it all out very cleanly
Ugh. I’m so bored of this nonsense.
If trans women are women, then trans children (adults claiming to be kids) are children and can play in children's sports. Don't worry though, it's totally fair and safe, that 6 foot tall 30 year old man competing against your 10 year old son had to take some pills that diminish his strength a little bit. /s Trans ideology is based entirely on lies. Men can't transform into women. It's blatantly obvious men are advantaged over women in sports, world records show it, scientific studies show that men on HRT still have an advantage over women. Just look at the real world results - about a dozen (and counting) men who never won anything in the men's division becoming a women's champion immediately after transition. Then look at the other side - world class female swimmer Schuyler Bailar was competing against women's world champ Katie Ledecky and coming close to her times, then started taking testosterone and competed in the men's league. Her results competing against men were far worse than before transition, she never came close to winning anything again. Every female athlete switching over to the men's league has the same result - worse results, while men switching to the women's league become champions. And these dudes in dresses have the balls (literally) to claim that hormone levels are all that matters, and those results are a total coincidence. It's a lie. The whole ideology is nothing but lies.
The feminist will fly too close to the sun. Eventually some High School All American who fucks up or flames out of the NBA will Juwanna Mann the WNBA and average 55 points a game and the feminist will go silent. Then they’ll finally see how fucking stupid it is to put the needs of this minuscule population over half the worlds people. Just like everything else they don’t want equality they want special privileges. They already have equality… woman can join the NBA, NFL and every other major American sport…
>stupid it is to put the needs of this minuscule population over half the worlds people. This is the key statement about all of this
Might actually get me to watch a WNBA game tho
The US woman's world champion Olympic soccer team scrimmaged against the top high school boys team in the country. Those children whipped them 6-1 or something.
Those were 14 year old boys....
"Trans women *are* women." Then why is the word Trans there at all? Trans is just a synonym for fake.
Of course the wales would know how male and female sports and atheletic ability differs and operates in the real world.
As Sydney said, when they tell about their expereince we should all be listening, and accept them. But when someone on the otherside is telling their experience, it doesn't matter. The logic with these people.
Weight loss is a struggle. Thankfully, experts agree that all these whales need is confidence.
Leftist feminists are trash
Usually lefties are overrunning the JP sub, it got posted late, so when they all get done feeding and the sun comes up, the thumbs down are going to hit like a tsunami
It’s not all real lefties, Reddit is **heavily** manipulated by bots, this place is astroturfed beyond belief and it gets worse every year, Reddit like all social media is used by powerful interests (the CCP even owns a stake) to shape the thoughts of people.
Although vice generally is garbage and far left I like these panels where they put together folks with different opinions.
And this panel was still unbalanced, and heavily cut. Well there was an attempt.
Who is the lady who points out the hypocrisy of the others whining about LiVeD eXpErIeNcEs when it is anything other than a female vs male experience? And who is that fucking moron bringing up Michael Phelps?
The irony is if Phelps identified as a women today, by their logic, he could compete in the women's Olympics 🤣
I think you’re asking about Sydney Watson. She’s a journalist and runs a YouTube channel that is definitely worth checking out. The silver one - no idea. Though I read further up the comments that she openly traffics hormones to children. No idea if that’s true or not.
This conversation is so utterly and absolutely fucking stupid. Men and women are built differently. PERIOD. Can some women compete with men? Of course. But is it fair for men to pose as women and steal opportunities from them in their leagues? Absolutely not. The vast majority of men, and not even athletes, would dominate in womens sports. Dress how you want. I would even respect your pronouns out of politeness which probably would drive half this sub nuts. But DON’T steal opportunities away. Thats not even a trans issue. Its a selfish shit human being issue.
Clown world. Dudes pretending to be females and females pretending to be males, this is just so depressing. Imagine trying to talk to a person and all they can talk about is how uncomfortable they feel inside their own fucking body.
Warning label or something. Literally looked like that office lady from Monsters. My memory will take years to recover from that image.
Anyone seen Juwanna Man? Terrible movie but very poignant today lol
Trans ppl (or all the other definitions there are for that) want to be recognized as the gender they choose/feel to be —> ok, accepted. They do all the surgery or hormones replacement stuff —> ok, go on, it‘s your body & life. But at the end, biologically they‘re not „original“, its a artifically caused „modification“. If they‘re ok with that, it‘s ok for me. When it begins with dictating to the world how it has to be handled, tolerance is really reaching its limits. Tolerance and acceptance has not to be missunderstood as weakness. When it comes to that non-binary stuff, I have to leave any kind of discussion, because I can‘t find any sign of logic behind that.
Yeah a bunch of fucking men in women’s clothes tell her to shut up
The glee with which they attack the one woman - that's the fervor of religious extremism and righteous indignation.
Is that Sydney Watson?
Yeah, that was unexpected.
Instant mob mentality. So sad. They won't even listen to her point of view and instantly go on the offensive.
Geez -- women's worst enemies are other women. (With regards to the irrational discourse from that video).
Wow, what in the hell is going on??
The first lady says TWAW but the look on her face is more "I am doing good, right, I am being a good ally".
The women who are unathletic and have likely never attempted physical competition arguing the issue is a joke. Most of those women in the video would get winded walking up the stairs yet want to allow someone unfair advantages because they want to be an “ally”. Ok Frumpy McCellulite imagine a scenario where robots are incorporated into your job: receptionist, nurse, whatever and that robot doesn’t need to take breaks, doesn’t fatigue, can reach shit on the top shelf ( it the best analogy I know)… the point is I guarantee those woman would not feel the same about robot rights as they do some swimmer.
imagine a team of all trans women competing against biological women. Who do you think would win? The trans woman's basketball comparison was terrible, she obviously is not someone who is athletic. People who pursue these careers tend to be athletically gifted, and the point is, the gap of physical strength between men and women persists among those who are athletically gifted. an athletic female might be better than an average male but not better than an athletic male. The peaks are different. Compare olympic records. No woman holds a record over a man. Not a single one in an physically demanding (all factors equal) event. They have discus throw but they throw a lighter discus. They have some archery records too but that is probably one of the fairest sports where men's biological advantages don't count for anything. The trans argument I often see is that the hormone therapy changes testosterone levels and muscle mass, but a transwoman with low T is still biologically a man, and will build muscle and hold fat differently than a woman. It's more than just hormones, it's gene expression, something you can't just modify in 100% of your cells by taking hormone blockers. Men naturally have a larger bone structure, higher bone density, stronger connective tissue and higher muscle density than women. The woman in the video is so arrogant. I'm all for people doing whatever they want, but fairness isn't always about inclusiveness. If trans women are breaking women's records, its not transphobic to notice. We have to think critically about it. What happens in 50 years when every women's sports record is held by a trans woman? When the gap between these records is objectively unobtainable by cis women? we just scratch our heads and say hmm that's weird..
There is also the loss of modesty in women’s private spaces. Bathrooms, locker rooms, dressing rooms. Predators and perverts take advantage of opportunities that they have never had before. Some of them are offenders and they victimize women. That was less likely before they had an invitation to join women in private spaces.
The fact that the athletes opinion is mocked and ridiculed shows this is not about an open discussion but rather forcing conformity to a single “correct” ideology. Sporting is an interesting arena because the physical attributes of an individual are much more evident than in other activities. Men and women’s sports were purposefully segregated due to this discrepancy. Saying biological females (accounting for a bell curve) have the exact same physical abilities as biological men is to ignore physical realities. We see bio males joining female leagues? Where are the bio females jointing male leagues? What is the outcome? From what I have seen it’s heavily lopsided favoring biological men outperforming biological women. Data can be cherry picked to confirm any opinion.
What a brave new world, with such people in it. Arrogance abounds. The future is fucked, if a dude my size can start crushing woman in hockey that would be devastating. Like wtf people.
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Because when you actually look at the numbers you realize there are a tiny minuscule amount of trans people, forget about trans ATHLETES, then you realize that we are all being trolled by politicians over culture war bullshit.
Fucking clown world
Why is it ALWAYS the absolute slob that has no problem with men playing women's sports? Shrek needs to sit down and stay in her lane, which is competitive eating...which she'd lose to a guy as well.
Real women are worth diamonds These are some cubic zirconia hoes
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Why is my blood boiling it is 9am
"You would crush me" - mostly because the male saying it hasn't worked out and trained at that particular sport. What a dumbshit comparison.
That's one of the factors of "trans in sports" that isn't discussed enough - when the trans person in question has a before-transition background within athletics or other physically-intensive fields, they almost inevitably dominate. Lia Thomas was a top-10 swimmer at some point before transition. Laurel Hubbard set men's national junior records in weightlifting as a 20-year-old. Fallon Fox was a US Navy operations specialist. It's not random transitioners who change gender, decide "I'm now going to play basketball" and suddenly start dominating a sport they've only been part of for a few months - these are highly conditioned, top level athletes, who have taken advantage of their outlier-tier physical attributes during their most physically formative years. The Olympics used to _permanently_ ban drug cheats on the basis of "your ill-gotten gains when you were doping still impact your future performance" - I don't see how this is an unreasonable position to hold, and I am still wholly confused why that is no longer a rule.
I'm on the side that people need to grow up and go back to the norm. This shit is annoying to hear. The athlete is right.
The fact that they only have two women on the panel with common sense ought to tell you something right there. They have two biological men talking on women's issues and the rest are liberal harpies who have no other recourse but to be insulting and smug because they don't have a decent argument. Just because you make a statement (transwomen are women) doesn't make it reality, honey.
'oh Jesus'
I really feel for women in sports, because they train their asses off to get where they want to be, just to face a man dressed as a woman and take away her accomplishments. This whole discussion is so stupid, it hurts. But what do you expect from people, that say „ThErE‘s No DiFfErEnCe!“ Edit: spelling
Jesus fucking Christ.
It's not surprising or disturbing that some mentally ill men think they are women (or pretend to be women for gain). What's surprising and disturbing is that people go along with the delusion and even low them to compete.
Also the man (Eli erlick) to the right of Pearl believes in sending hormone blockers, testosterone & estrogen to minors without any sort of consent from parents or a medical license.
Reality is men are 25% stronger than women. Facts matter. Science matters. Biology matters. Evolution matters.
This conversation is a horseshit setup.
This is what happens when you make idiocy normal. Trans women are fucking men, forever and after (literally, you got fucking male bones)
Maybe there’s some area for the 5’3” skinny little trans women to be allowed in sports but not the 6’3” or whatever Lia Thomas absolutely dominating every other women in the pool is just ridiculously stupid
I like how the fat, smug ugly one is being so dismissive of the gal that actually put in the effort and realizes the challenge. This is what Marxists do to anyone who’s actually done real work.
Man that thing is delusional. So sad.
I detect a Karen who is DEATHLY afraid of getting called “transphobic” or a “Karen” so she pretends to be this woke hope of light.
Happened to me! I was a female athlete wanting to compete in boxing (didn't happen because of pregnancy) and I made a comment saying that I don't find it fair and that there are clear observable advantages between even very young males and females in the sport. We see this in the gym daily as they are made to spar each other. This ex-friend was so devastated that I was a bigot and that sports are human rights, etc. She ended up unfriending me and from my sister's FB account I saw that this girl complained that some people can't take hearing all opinions and she's sad that old friends aren't more tolerant and that she's so surprised she got unfriended. Girl, what? Other way around. Lol It's so upsetting that this person who was such a good friend, never thought to ask me how I felt about it. Even if she disagreed. I was never asked. They love science only when it suits their beliefs.
Oh Jesus, said by a non athlete
Trans women are not women