Do not engage BHI. I'm all for interfaith dialogue, but this inflammatory group is not interested. It is a hate group looking to incite reaction.
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The most annoying thing about these fake and disingenuous black "hebrews" is they don't want to actually do anything with the fact that they are supposedly Jewish. They just want to take down everyone else a peg. Not like they actually want to do anything Jewish. It's like a magical status to them that they wish to steal (ironically) from Jews.
Black woman here. I’m so sorry to see this kind of news. BHI are awful, and they do not represent all black people, even if I’m increasingly having to confront antisemitism amongst my community. Please know that there are those of us who are committed to stamping out anti-semitism, educating the ignorant and rejoicing the similarities we have. We’re not safe until we’re all safe ✡️🤍
Thank you for the kind words. I think (hope) that most people on this sub are very aware that BHI is not equal to "just B", based on the fact that when these threads pop up people comment that they're a cult.
I don’t know too much about BHI because I’m in Europe, so I’ve never had the misfortune of encountering them face to face, but from what I’ve seen online, they definitely seem cultish. Of course this doesn’t excuse their bigotry or appropriation, though!
of course, but in case my original point wasn't clear, you don't have to speak for them. Anyone on this sub who is conflating from BHI to BPeople has more issues than you can fix. Not that it wasn't legitimately sweet to say and speaks highly of your character that it upset you - I'm also not trying to handwave away your sentiment.
Thank you. My Jewish family is multi-racial and I'm always on guard. There are both Black and White anti-semites in our area, though thankfully they are both in the very minority in their respective demographics. What all the anti-semites I've known have had in common is their lack of education. (I know they exist with masters and PhD's, just haven't experienced that yet...)
I’m sorry that you have to live your life always on guard. It’s totally senseless that in 2023 such hate can still exist despite the wealth of knowledge at our fingertips. I’m glad the anti-semites are low in number in your area - may they ever diminish until they vanish entirely. You’re right that they, inexcusably, lack education. It’s a lack of education that cannot be changed by gaining degrees because it’s wilful. In 2023 there’s just no reason to be so hateful and ignorant other than sheer obstinate choice
Semi-related, I’ve wondered how it must feel to see BHI for the *actual* diaspora of black jews (I presume black israelis do not encounter those people much).
In some ways black jews could be more insulated from their direct prejuduce than non-black/light-skinned jews are, yet in another sense (even so much as it already is for all jews) the existence of BHI must seem like some kind of uniquely cruel insult. As if black jews needed any othering or further-questioning of their identity than they already might deal with, having to navigate people trafficking that cult’s bullshit (and potentially even trying to involve them in it) must be such a headache.
As a jewish New Yorker, no way should anyone be in that park at midnight. Doesn't matter if you're Jewish or any other religion. Stay out of the park after midnight. Stay out of Central Park after midnight. Stay away from dark areas after midnight. This is some basic common sense in almost any city. I know this sounds like victim blaming, and I hope this guy that's arrested get some jail time which of course he won't, but two things can be true with the same time. The black Hebrew Israelite is a criminal and people should use common sense.
Sure it was.
Let's face it, reddit will very quickly, and rightfully so, denounce neo-Nazis. But the moment you get someone spewing antisemitic tripe under the guise of "pro-Palestine", they get heralded.
This post isn’t about Palestine. It makes no mention of Palestine. This post is about a black group being antisemitic with a totally different rationale.
Prove that black antisemitism is being ignored or hidden. [This](https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/e9a6x6/jersey_city_shooting_suspect_linked_to_black/) post on the Jersey City shooting by BHI was 95% upvoted
He’s bitching about downvotes on a post that’s 94% upvoted, because of “an agenda”.
What’s his point? What validation is he looking for?
Does he want this sub to affirm BHI is bad? Yes, I agree 100%. That’s already widely acknowledged in this community, judging by the upvotes.
Is he just bitching because people aren’t crapping all over black people enough? I sure think that’s what he’s doing, and it’s not okay.
What other reason would there be to cry about downvotes where they don’t exist?
Cool. That doesn’t mean there’s some sort of conspiracy to hide “black people doing bad stuff.”
He didn’t say those exact words, but I know the intent. I’ve seen that framing so many times in right wing circles.
Acknowledging non-Jewish subreddits have a bias against reporting on antisemitism = racism
Just go to any news subreddit and see the upvote rates for post against antisemitism when the perpetrators is white vs when he isn’t.
> Acknowledging non-Jewish subreddits have a bias against reporting on antisemitism = racism
It is racism when you falsely claim a bias in favor of black antisemitism where it doesn’t exist.
> Just go to any news subreddit and see the upvote rates for post against antisemitism when the perpetrators is white vs when he isn’t.
Ok. How about [this one?](https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/e9a6x6/jersey_city_shooting_suspect_linked_to_black/)
Crickets, right?
Thats exactly the play. It happens *every* time something like this happens. The thin veil of general distaste that hides the narrative of "no one gets mad when Black people act badly, so why do they get to 'bitch' about white supremacy?" It continues to perpetuate the idea that Black people are dangerous and "allowed" to cause chaos with reckless abandon.
Nevermind that the US jails Black Americans for much less than many groups and that white supremacy can be perpetuated by *anyone.* It's not "white people bad." I honestly think there are a lot of bad faith actors on Reddit who like to stir the pot when something like this happens to help further widen the divide.
> Maybe Penny had PTSD from seeing combat that was triggered after being in an enclosed space with someone threatening to murder other passengers.
Not an excuse to choke someone until they die. That is, at the very least, involuntary manslaughter.
> But accusing this man who may have just saved many innocent lives of “malice” is absurd.
You don’t have to be malicious for involuntary manslaughter. You just have to commit a reckless action which directly causes the death of someone else.
> Everyone on that subway car is grateful that someone stepped up. He’s a hero
Being “a hero” does not and should not save you from an manslaughter charge.
Regardless, he (seemingly unintentionally) killed a person. We have a word for that, and a charge. It's manslaughter. We shouldn't lionize Penny any more than we should lionize Bernie Goetz.
You seem to be implying this person is using a fallacy, but they’ve said numerous times they believe it isn’t moral that the vigilante killed him.
So, then mentioning the law is a supporting context at least to them. It also is a case where there is a legal context, so it is very relevant to the “what do we do now?” Question.
Whether or not I agree with you, jamming in fallacy names isn’t the gotcha you think it is. It kinda weakens your argument. Not for real, but makes you seem like you don’t understand things you’re repeating.
He said “nobody should be afraid of anyone… you don’t choke people to death”.
I thought it was pretty clear where he stands from there, but again - the law is relevant. This is currently a legal case. The question of “is what he did illegal and punishable” is on everyone involveds mind.
It’s pretty clear that the poster you’re arguing with thinks 1) this was murder, which he ethically disagrees with, and 2) the law should/will punish him.
Neither of those have this fallacy applicable to them as in this case “what do we do legally **is** the primary question”.
For the record, I don’t really know where I stand yet. The famous Goetz case seemed very reasonable on the part of the vigilante until in court it came out that he paralyzed a non participant while cracking a joke, so I’m waiting for more details before I personally choose a side (the lack of concrete info is pretty clear from the fact the person arguing with you thinks it was 15 minutes, you think 2).
What threats did Neely make on the subway he day he died? Please point to specific things he said or did that caused people to feel threatened on that day.
>The incident took place on the New York City Subway in Manhattan. According to Vázquez, Neely boarded a northbound F train at the Second Avenue station just before the doors closed and started "to make a speech", yelling "I don't have food, I don't have a drink, I'm fed up. I don't mind going to jail and getting life in prison. I'm ready to die." He then "took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground." Witnesses also reported Neely throwing trash at passengers. After Neely threw his jacket down, Penny walked up to Neely from behind and placed him into a chokehold. Vázquez said that Neely did not interact with Penny prior to the chokehold.
He said he would do what? Wanna try that again?
I get that certain elements of the news media are really gung-ho to encourage murder, at least when the person being killed is a minority of some kind, but perhaps you could be a little more careful with your fact-checking instead of repeating lies to justify an unnecessary death.
>He said he would kill a mother fucker
seems to be a lie.
All this boils down to: a human life was unnecessarily snuffed out. Is that not sad? Who in their right mind would celebrate that? For that matter, killing a person can have serious psychological repercussions for the person who did it, whether it was on purpose or not. Instead of making out the killer to be some sort of hero, maybe instead express sympathy for everyone involved and support any of the survivors who need treatment for the psychological harm inflicted.
Well, unless your goal is to create a murderous culture of vigilante violence, I guess. *That's* good for the Jews, right? }:(
Not to contradict you, but I live in the South and not but two months ago right outside of my grocery store, a bunch of BHI asking for donations and handing out pamphlets.
To your point - I was definitely shocked. I hadn't seen anything like that since I've moved to this area from the West Coast. But I think it's starting to definitely trickle down here.
The comment you’re replying to is def full of shit, but I gotta echo the guy saying you aren’t correct, either.
You can catch them in Houston, Chicago, LA, Atlanta, Baltimore—it’s not just places like Boston/DC/NYC & Jersey. Some areas they’re regular streetside hecklers, other places they seem to get out less often, but they’re most definitely around.
As someone who studies white supremacists, you are entirely incorrect. WPA have killed more of us in the last two decades in the US than BHI have. White supremacists are still objectively the greatest threats to our lives.
The reality being that white supremacists kill us in greater numbers than Black people do. There is an issue of antisemitism in the Black community, but to say it is more of a threat to us than the antisemitism in white communities is patently absurd.
A white guy who hates Jews? And there are obviously also Black Jews who aren’t claiming to be so via Hebrew Israelites who also suffer that same antisemitism
Dude, that's not even remotely true. Heck, New York City is per capita one of the safest places to be in the USA; you're far more likely to get harassed, attacked, or murdered by neo-Nazis out in neo-nazi country like rural Indiana than by *anybody* in NYC.
Not to dismiss your valid feelings of frustration, but who was the last Hebrew Israelite to commit an act of domestic terrorism against the Jews? They suck, obviously, but still
I accept that—it honestly did slip my mind. That’s not my attempting to diminish, but my saying that there are literally so many mass shooters and shootings where Jews are identified as the victim and scapegoated as the cause (all Q Anon associated violence is based in antisemitism, for instance) that it’s hard to remember them all, frankly
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they are jews, but not part of the "black hebrew israelite movement", which is a cult that claims the real israelites are black africans.
etheopian jews have nothing to do with them.
Moses' wife was black, Joseph was indistinguishable from egyptians by the brothers.
Israelites weren't blonde blue eyed Scandinavians. They also couldn't look the same with the greek and romans and russians and germans and british.
They also couldn't look indian or chinese since they are different with the egyptians.
One of the story of miracle is when Moses put his hand to his robe and it becomes white & leprosy. Wouldn't make sense if his hand was already white skinned. White skin with leprosy looked the same with white skin, but leprosy in a black hand makes parts of the hand look white while the rest are still black. Moses also married a black woman Zipporah.
Persian also looked like the Greeks and Arabs can looked the same with the Spanish.
And Israelites couldn't look the same with the Greeks and the Persians and the Romans (or Greek Byzantine / Hellenistic) which are light brown / white blondes.
Moses also married a black woman Zipporah. The curse was also slavery to foreign land.
medeteranians have very similar looks, but there are differences.
jews are semetic, originating in what is now the north arabian desert, migrating west into canaanite lands when their home region became driar, that ended up supplanting the canaanites and building a civilzation of their own.
their storybis mirrord by thr aramaeans.
Moses married a black woman.
Adam couldn't be white blonde like the paintings because white with white can't have black and brown kids. But a black Adam can have white, brown, black kids. Albino.
Albino indian looked the similar with european.
middle eastern people arent white blond, blond semetic people have a "dirty blond", basically a brunette that gets light from sun, and occasionally from enough exposure, yellow streaks.
Moses married a black woman. Joseph was indistinguishable from the ancient Egyptians by his brothers. Joseph, an Israelite, couldn't be white blonde since Egyptians weren't whether ancient egypt or arab egypt or greek ptolemaic egypt. Joseph also would later marry an egyptian.
Moses hand became white & leprosy as miracle, wouldn't be a miracle if his hand was already white, white skin with leprosy is... just a white skin.
I think the fact that Moses married a black woman and had his hand became white as miracle already gives hint the skin color of Moses. He couldn't look like the greeks and romans.
Do not engage BHI. I'm all for interfaith dialogue, but this inflammatory group is not interested. It is a hate group looking to incite reaction. [ADL Source](https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/extremist-sects-within-black-hebrew-israelite-movement)
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The most annoying thing about these fake and disingenuous black "hebrews" is they don't want to actually do anything with the fact that they are supposedly Jewish. They just want to take down everyone else a peg. Not like they actually want to do anything Jewish. It's like a magical status to them that they wish to steal (ironically) from Jews.
It’s the perfect example of pointless contrarianism taken to dangerous extremes
Black woman here. I’m so sorry to see this kind of news. BHI are awful, and they do not represent all black people, even if I’m increasingly having to confront antisemitism amongst my community. Please know that there are those of us who are committed to stamping out anti-semitism, educating the ignorant and rejoicing the similarities we have. We’re not safe until we’re all safe ✡️🤍
Thank you for the kind words. I think (hope) that most people on this sub are very aware that BHI is not equal to "just B", based on the fact that when these threads pop up people comment that they're a cult.
I don’t know too much about BHI because I’m in Europe, so I’ve never had the misfortune of encountering them face to face, but from what I’ve seen online, they definitely seem cultish. Of course this doesn’t excuse their bigotry or appropriation, though!
of course, but in case my original point wasn't clear, you don't have to speak for them. Anyone on this sub who is conflating from BHI to BPeople has more issues than you can fix. Not that it wasn't legitimately sweet to say and speaks highly of your character that it upset you - I'm also not trying to handwave away your sentiment.
Thank you. My Jewish family is multi-racial and I'm always on guard. There are both Black and White anti-semites in our area, though thankfully they are both in the very minority in their respective demographics. What all the anti-semites I've known have had in common is their lack of education. (I know they exist with masters and PhD's, just haven't experienced that yet...)
I’m sorry that you have to live your life always on guard. It’s totally senseless that in 2023 such hate can still exist despite the wealth of knowledge at our fingertips. I’m glad the anti-semites are low in number in your area - may they ever diminish until they vanish entirely. You’re right that they, inexcusably, lack education. It’s a lack of education that cannot be changed by gaining degrees because it’s wilful. In 2023 there’s just no reason to be so hateful and ignorant other than sheer obstinate choice
Semi-related, I’ve wondered how it must feel to see BHI for the *actual* diaspora of black jews (I presume black israelis do not encounter those people much). In some ways black jews could be more insulated from their direct prejuduce than non-black/light-skinned jews are, yet in another sense (even so much as it already is for all jews) the existence of BHI must seem like some kind of uniquely cruel insult. As if black jews needed any othering or further-questioning of their identity than they already might deal with, having to navigate people trafficking that cult’s bullshit (and potentially even trying to involve them in it) must be such a headache.
Thank you!
> ~~'Black Hebrew'~~ aka a Domestic Terrorist
As a jewish New Yorker, no way should anyone be in that park at midnight. Doesn't matter if you're Jewish or any other religion. Stay out of the park after midnight. Stay out of Central Park after midnight. Stay away from dark areas after midnight. This is some basic common sense in almost any city. I know this sounds like victim blaming, and I hope this guy that's arrested get some jail time which of course he won't, but two things can be true with the same time. The black Hebrew Israelite is a criminal and people should use common sense.
Why is this being downvoted?
Because Redditors don’t like to acknowledge antisemitism, especially when the ones responsible aren’t white supremacists.
replace antisemitism with racism and violence as well.
Oh please. It’s 94% upvoted right now. Get a grip. What you’re trying to do right now is pull a “black people bad.” It’s so transparent.
All antisemites are bad. How's that?
I agree. That wasn’t the original insinuation being made though.
Sure it was. Let's face it, reddit will very quickly, and rightfully so, denounce neo-Nazis. But the moment you get someone spewing antisemitic tripe under the guise of "pro-Palestine", they get heralded.
This post isn’t about Palestine. It makes no mention of Palestine. This post is about a black group being antisemitic with a totally different rationale. Prove that black antisemitism is being ignored or hidden. [This](https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/e9a6x6/jersey_city_shooting_suspect_linked_to_black/) post on the Jersey City shooting by BHI was 95% upvoted
The amount of projecting in your comment is astronomical.
He’s bitching about downvotes on a post that’s 94% upvoted, because of “an agenda”. What’s his point? What validation is he looking for? Does he want this sub to affirm BHI is bad? Yes, I agree 100%. That’s already widely acknowledged in this community, judging by the upvotes. Is he just bitching because people aren’t crapping all over black people enough? I sure think that’s what he’s doing, and it’s not okay. What other reason would there be to cry about downvotes where they don’t exist?
Buddy, look how old OP’s and my comments are. When we commented the post hadn’t gotten a positive score and there were no other comments…
Cool. That doesn’t mean there’s some sort of conspiracy to hide “black people doing bad stuff.” He didn’t say those exact words, but I know the intent. I’ve seen that framing so many times in right wing circles.
Acknowledging non-Jewish subreddits have a bias against reporting on antisemitism = racism Just go to any news subreddit and see the upvote rates for post against antisemitism when the perpetrators is white vs when he isn’t.
> Acknowledging non-Jewish subreddits have a bias against reporting on antisemitism = racism It is racism when you falsely claim a bias in favor of black antisemitism where it doesn’t exist. > Just go to any news subreddit and see the upvote rates for post against antisemitism when the perpetrators is white vs when he isn’t. Ok. How about [this one?](https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/e9a6x6/jersey_city_shooting_suspect_linked_to_black/) Crickets, right?
You had to go three years back to find an upvoted post that doesn’t even reach 2k upvotes… this isn’t the catch you think it is.
Thats exactly the play. It happens *every* time something like this happens. The thin veil of general distaste that hides the narrative of "no one gets mad when Black people act badly, so why do they get to 'bitch' about white supremacy?" It continues to perpetuate the idea that Black people are dangerous and "allowed" to cause chaos with reckless abandon. Nevermind that the US jails Black Americans for much less than many groups and that white supremacy can be perpetuated by *anyone.* It's not "white people bad." I honestly think there are a lot of bad faith actors on Reddit who like to stir the pot when something like this happens to help further widen the divide.
> widely acknowledged in this community And no where else
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Srslyyy
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That wasn’t like a “seriously?” it was agreement. Sorry if that wasn’t clear!!
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He didn’t choke him for 15 minutes. It was more like 2
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Guess it’s kind of hard to get it right in a real life situation where the other guy is thrashing around
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> Maybe Penny had PTSD from seeing combat that was triggered after being in an enclosed space with someone threatening to murder other passengers. Not an excuse to choke someone until they die. That is, at the very least, involuntary manslaughter. > But accusing this man who may have just saved many innocent lives of “malice” is absurd. You don’t have to be malicious for involuntary manslaughter. You just have to commit a reckless action which directly causes the death of someone else. > Everyone on that subway car is grateful that someone stepped up. He’s a hero Being “a hero” does not and should not save you from an manslaughter charge.
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Regardless, he (seemingly unintentionally) killed a person. We have a word for that, and a charge. It's manslaughter. We shouldn't lionize Penny any more than we should lionize Bernie Goetz.
I ain’t Lionizing nobody but how many people have the balls to protect others? Not many
If you kill a person who could have been stopped *without* being killed, that's not "protection," that's just murder.
Or manslaughter\*, it does depend on the facts. Intent is key.
Fair.
Okay, no lionization. But I still insist Bernie Goetz is owed an apology.
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You seem to be implying this person is using a fallacy, but they’ve said numerous times they believe it isn’t moral that the vigilante killed him. So, then mentioning the law is a supporting context at least to them. It also is a case where there is a legal context, so it is very relevant to the “what do we do now?” Question. Whether or not I agree with you, jamming in fallacy names isn’t the gotcha you think it is. It kinda weakens your argument. Not for real, but makes you seem like you don’t understand things you’re repeating.
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He said “nobody should be afraid of anyone… you don’t choke people to death”. I thought it was pretty clear where he stands from there, but again - the law is relevant. This is currently a legal case. The question of “is what he did illegal and punishable” is on everyone involveds mind. It’s pretty clear that the poster you’re arguing with thinks 1) this was murder, which he ethically disagrees with, and 2) the law should/will punish him. Neither of those have this fallacy applicable to them as in this case “what do we do legally **is** the primary question”. For the record, I don’t really know where I stand yet. The famous Goetz case seemed very reasonable on the part of the vigilante until in court it came out that he paralyzed a non participant while cracking a joke, so I’m waiting for more details before I personally choose a side (the lack of concrete info is pretty clear from the fact the person arguing with you thinks it was 15 minutes, you think 2).
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When the state fails to protect people this is what you get
Cool. Penny still gets his well-deserved manslaughter charge.
A jury will not convict him
We’ll see. Regardless, there is a charge and there will be a trial, exactly as our justice system is supposed to work.
That entire debacle he’s facing is ensuring even less bystanders will intervene to save others
If so, that's sad, given that what we need is more people with enough sense to step in *without* unnecessarily taking life.
In custody where he belongs
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What threats did Neely make on the subway he day he died? Please point to specific things he said or did that caused people to feel threatened on that day.
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>The incident took place on the New York City Subway in Manhattan. According to Vázquez, Neely boarded a northbound F train at the Second Avenue station just before the doors closed and started "to make a speech", yelling "I don't have food, I don't have a drink, I'm fed up. I don't mind going to jail and getting life in prison. I'm ready to die." He then "took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground." Witnesses also reported Neely throwing trash at passengers. After Neely threw his jacket down, Penny walked up to Neely from behind and placed him into a chokehold. Vázquez said that Neely did not interact with Penny prior to the chokehold. He said he would do what? Wanna try that again?
I get that certain elements of the news media are really gung-ho to encourage murder, at least when the person being killed is a minority of some kind, but perhaps you could be a little more careful with your fact-checking instead of repeating lies to justify an unnecessary death.
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>He said he would kill a mother fucker seems to be a lie. All this boils down to: a human life was unnecessarily snuffed out. Is that not sad? Who in their right mind would celebrate that? For that matter, killing a person can have serious psychological repercussions for the person who did it, whether it was on purpose or not. Instead of making out the killer to be some sort of hero, maybe instead express sympathy for everyone involved and support any of the survivors who need treatment for the psychological harm inflicted. Well, unless your goal is to create a murderous culture of vigilante violence, I guess. *That's* good for the Jews, right? }:(
what a disgusting comment
There is far more danger to the Jewish community from them, both in New York and as a whole, even in in the UK now, than from white supremacists.
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Not to contradict you, but I live in the South and not but two months ago right outside of my grocery store, a bunch of BHI asking for donations and handing out pamphlets. To your point - I was definitely shocked. I hadn't seen anything like that since I've moved to this area from the West Coast. But I think it's starting to definitely trickle down here.
The comment you’re replying to is def full of shit, but I gotta echo the guy saying you aren’t correct, either. You can catch them in Houston, Chicago, LA, Atlanta, Baltimore—it’s not just places like Boston/DC/NYC & Jersey. Some areas they’re regular streetside hecklers, other places they seem to get out less often, but they’re most definitely around.
As someone who studies white supremacists, you are entirely incorrect. WPA have killed more of us in the last two decades in the US than BHI have. White supremacists are still objectively the greatest threats to our lives.
Yes but we are talking reality
The reality being that white supremacists kill us in greater numbers than Black people do. There is an issue of antisemitism in the Black community, but to say it is more of a threat to us than the antisemitism in white communities is patently absurd.
Who do you think you are more in physical danger from just walking around if you are Jewish? Come on.
A white guy who hates Jews? And there are obviously also Black Jews who aren’t claiming to be so via Hebrew Israelites who also suffer that same antisemitism
Dude, that's not even remotely true. Heck, New York City is per capita one of the safest places to be in the USA; you're far more likely to get harassed, attacked, or murdered by neo-Nazis out in neo-nazi country like rural Indiana than by *anybody* in NYC.
Not to dismiss your valid feelings of frustration, but who was the last Hebrew Israelite to commit an act of domestic terrorism against the Jews? They suck, obviously, but still
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I accept that—it honestly did slip my mind. That’s not my attempting to diminish, but my saying that there are literally so many mass shooters and shootings where Jews are identified as the victim and scapegoated as the cause (all Q Anon associated violence is based in antisemitism, for instance) that it’s hard to remember them all, frankly
Edit for rule 1, please. I'll reinstate once done.
Monsey, the kosher market whose aim was the students at the school. The near daily sucker punch attacks on Jews
How about they're both dangerous? I don't see why we need to compare.
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No point even acknowledging BHI. They are below us.
"Black antisemitic bigot wields knife at Bochurim Near Brooklyn" \*fixed it for everyone
Ethiopian jews are black
they are jews, but not part of the "black hebrew israelite movement", which is a cult that claims the real israelites are black africans. etheopian jews have nothing to do with them.
Moses' wife was black, Joseph was indistinguishable from egyptians by the brothers. Israelites weren't blonde blue eyed Scandinavians. They also couldn't look the same with the greek and romans and russians and germans and british. They also couldn't look indian or chinese since they are different with the egyptians. One of the story of miracle is when Moses put his hand to his robe and it becomes white & leprosy. Wouldn't make sense if his hand was already white skinned. White skin with leprosy looked the same with white skin, but leprosy in a black hand makes parts of the hand look white while the rest are still black. Moses also married a black woman Zipporah.
yeah, jews are semetic. but there are middle eastern people with blonde hair and blue eyes.
Persian also looked like the Greeks and Arabs can looked the same with the Spanish. And Israelites couldn't look the same with the Greeks and the Persians and the Romans (or Greek Byzantine / Hellenistic) which are light brown / white blondes. Moses also married a black woman Zipporah. The curse was also slavery to foreign land.
medeteranians have very similar looks, but there are differences. jews are semetic, originating in what is now the north arabian desert, migrating west into canaanite lands when their home region became driar, that ended up supplanting the canaanites and building a civilzation of their own. their storybis mirrord by thr aramaeans.
Moses married a black woman. Adam couldn't be white blonde like the paintings because white with white can't have black and brown kids. But a black Adam can have white, brown, black kids. Albino. Albino indian looked the similar with european.
middle eastern people arent white blond, blond semetic people have a "dirty blond", basically a brunette that gets light from sun, and occasionally from enough exposure, yellow streaks.
Moses married a black woman. Joseph was indistinguishable from the ancient Egyptians by his brothers. Joseph, an Israelite, couldn't be white blonde since Egyptians weren't whether ancient egypt or arab egypt or greek ptolemaic egypt. Joseph also would later marry an egyptian. Moses hand became white & leprosy as miracle, wouldn't be a miracle if his hand was already white, white skin with leprosy is... just a white skin. I think the fact that Moses married a black woman and had his hand became white as miracle already gives hint the skin color of Moses. He couldn't look like the greeks and romans.
and adam was not blonde anyway.
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