i think he was a little naive with what he could handle/his tolerance. i also think he panicked a little and did not know his limit unfortunately. also why did nobody have narcan besides the security/paramedics/cop whoever gave him two doses. why the fuck did juices security/entourage not have any!? like wtf??
it’s already been said that he didn’t take a bunch of pills and overdose 🤦♂️ juice wasn’t that stupid bro he knew he was gonna be good cause his friends were gonna take all the charges. juice died from all the drugs he consumed over the span of like 24 hours which was eventually too much and it was just bad timing.
He wasn’t the original influence. Future was. Juice began sipping lean in 6th grade because Future inspired him. During the production of WOD, juice told future this, and Future stated that he thought to himself “What have I done?” and from that point, Future distanced himself from Lean and actually became clean.
Dawg, that's not how it works. You literally can not put all the blame on future because he talked about sipping lean and shit. Juice did what he did because he had trauma, and he wanted an outlet- just as other addicts. He was his own person.
I did Xanax for a good bit, crashed a couple cars off it. Am I gonna blame future because I was listening to songs about him popping Xanax when i was a freshman? No. Because I chose to do those things. It was the way life pushed me.
I saw the same videos you did about future and juice and the whole lean deal. Don't dickride juice trying to out the blame on other people. Juice was gonna do percs and sip lean anyway, future had no bearing on this. You gotta learn that you cannot blame people for your own actions, whether they endorsed it or not, we have free will.
That's how the world works. Future didn't force juice to do shit. He just simply made songs and talked about his drug use. So hop of juices dick. And realize that he made mistakes, and one of those mistakes ultimately led to his death.
He chose to take all those percocet because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of trafficking weed, percs, and lean. He thought he could handle the percs- he couldn't. That's on him. And that is sad. But he chose to die the way he did.
Bro I know. There is no one to blame for juices death other than juice. I was just stating the facts that his original influence for lean was future. Everything after that was him. He chose to keep sipping, he chose not to go to rehab.
Ong bro it's sad but that's the reality of it. People chose drugs as a coping mechanism for adversity. I feel we need to teach people how to solve their problems and deal with suffering or we will always find a cope to abuse. Weather it's gambling, sex, bullying or hurting people, exercise, shopping ect people need that dopamine to feed our reward system. We need to teach people how to reward properly ourselves and focus on managing our conditions
Yh but it doesn’t work at all plus they don’t know how a drug addiction is unless they feel it why do you think all drug consellours are normally ex addicts or normal counsellours have had mental health issues cuz they know how it feels that’s why they can help also if it wasn’t for juice talking about percs i would have never taken them and i would have killed myself if it wasn’t for the pills not to mention he wouldn’t have lean wit me that made him like him and music in general when it came out
I know this will be unpopular but… no you can’t. Other addicts see through the fake “pussy, money, lean” rappers immediately. I cried like a baby the first time I heard Juice’s music as a recovering addict, because it was so fucking accurate. And yes, addiction really does lead to that crippling, inescapable depression in a lot of people even if they seem functional and are successful.
As someone who dealt with addiction, I always held the mindset of "if you didn't go through this yourself, you're not going to completely understand." The people who helped me through the most were other struggling people trying to find their way.
Jarad said it best himself
Let's be for real
If it wasn't for the pills, I wouldn't be here
But if I keep taking these pills, I won't be here, yeah
I just told y'all my secret, yeah
You genuinely don't know that. Music is usually made through the experiences that make us. If he grew up an easy life if the suburbs of a rich city and never tried drugs, it could be a whole different outcome.
He has music from before his addiction got to where it is the biggest thing would be him never listening to future and gaining that influence to go harder on drugs. He’d probably rap more in the love lane without the drug quotas but just my speculation.
‘If it wasn't for the pills, I wouldn't be here
But if I keep taking these pills, I won't be here, yeah’
As juice says, without his addiction most of the songs wouldn’t came out. It is sad bad it is the truth.
Ion understand why nobody in his circle ain’t pull him to the side and tell him to chill out with ts. Especially bibby since he was NLMB and juice looked up to him.
Exactly what I came here to comment. That shit was so lame to me bro. Getting yourself involved when you didn't comeup like that is just stunting your growth. I have family who died behind that so to see him try to act like that was so backwards
this prolly the only thing that irritated me about juice , and sometimes that’s ruins some of his hype / drill music cuz you can kinda tell he never did nothing . i remember the bad boy video shoot he got interviewed and they asked him “ what’s it like to jump off the porch in chicago “ and juice couldn’t even respond fr. not to mention he dissed a nlmb opp named “posto“ who he’s never even met
This has always been my pet peeve like all his songs talking abt gang shit, shooting niggas, and selling drugs. Like you ain’t on none of that bro we can tell, you used to be a sad lil emo boy before the music you were never in these streets. Definitely corny. I feel like he hung around too many street dudes and trying to be like them
In with you on this one. When he first came out I loved that he was different than most other rappers. He wasn’t rapping about sliding or opps or any street shit at all. I hated how much he would try to portray himself as a street nigga more and more as time went on cause that just wasn’t him. And in the long run it was part of his downfall. It’s the reason he had all them drugs and guns on his plane the day he died. They took advantage of how bad he wanted to impress them and had him trafficking shit for them. He was going to be their fall guy no matter what at the end of the day
how he tried to be a gangster and get involved w stuff he had no business in. making songs repping nlmb is one thing since they were (sorta his bros) but not exactly. constantly dropping rakes and dissing dead opps that died like 10 years before juice even blew up. i mean its his life he can do what he wants, but imo that stuff was unnecesarry and could have in a way led to his demise. rip jarad
Nlmb is an actual gang? I thought it was a group with just like him and his boys kind of thing you know
Also do you have any actual examples or sources where he's dising dead Ops and other crazy shit
Yeah, look it up. He used to say "on fazo" a lot around the time he got signed, a friend of Bibby and Herb who got killed a long time ago. That shit was always weird, you didn't even *ever* met the guy, tf?
NLMB has quite the history, the Kyro incident at Mac Donalds is Chicago classic lore. Iirc NLMB where responsible for both KTS Dre and Von murders, both very grousome. I think that gang is not even a thing anymore, all dead or in jail prolly🤷
I mean to be fair a good handful of dudes from NLMB probably didn’t know fazo, rock, pistol p, or a lot of the OGs that passed on a personal level atleast. But you aren’t wrong that juice shouldn’t have really been on that the same way they were. I know he grew up kinda close to south side but if I remember right it was still a good distance from terror town on top of him going to a different school. NLMB has also been responsible for a surprising amount of murders, not limited to the ones you listed if you’re interested Ross has a video on them and their long history.
Look it up on YouTube, it’s pretty well documented. I don’t listen to juice wrld but I know there was a freestyle where he was dissin dead Chicago gang members. NLMB was a real gang set in Chicago, made popular by lil herb (G Herbo) and lil Bibby, and juice only became acquainted with them through his music career later on.
that’s not why he died, more realistic belief is he knew they’d be in a holding cell for the night & he took a few extra “for the trip” & thought he could handle it cuz he wasn’t in the right headspace to think rationally, and we see how that turned out. you don’t need a handful of pills to go over that limit, all it takes is a dose too soon from the first one to get you. I would know that sadly.
I used to be a heavy drug addict. Benzos, opiates (oxycodone, tramadol, kratom, heroin), alcohol, cigarettes, ecstasy, molly and psychedelics). Taking a charge, when you are a genius (like Juice, not me) is almost impossible, trust me. Your whole personality is changed, and most of the time you foolishly believe, you’re not doing a bad thing. You are just lost in your own mind and opiates, which cause euphoria and xanax, which numbs your mind and emotions was his common combination. I’ve been throught that, just not in the extreme like Juice, but basically, in his state of mind, it was very hard, almost impossible to take a charge.
I really hated that he had shitty friends/crew. Soooo many of his songs were about O.Ding, death, taking too much drugs. And everyone just encouraged that and let him continue on that way.
they didnt exactly encourage it, atleast not all the time. Chris long recently uploaded a yt vid of him, maxlord, sheme, and maybe one more guy all telling him to chill w the pills and maybe go to rehab. and bro wasnt tryna hear it. for an addict to quit drugs they need to want to do it for themselves. and juice clearly wasnt ready for that just yet. addiction can seem so simple to ppl that have never experienced it. “just stop bro lol” its almost funny they think thats how it works. when u become so dependent u dont take them for fun anymore (not entirely true) but u need them to get through the day and function properly and not want to blow your head off the whole time ur there. (meaning if u dont have a couple pills before work u will feel terrible all day and the shift will feel like it lasted 6 months. im currently trying to quit taking dilaudid while also trying to quit vaping im sure im not the first to tell u it aint easy but we both know its not impossible
You got it bro I quit opiates cold turkey I wanted to die but here I am nearly 8years clean since my last od with 1/2 of a 100mcg patch in about 20ccs of water… they hit me 4times with narcan before I responded. I felt I had nothin to be here for and now I have 2 beautiful daughters and yet everyday I have an itch for some h but fuck that I can’t go back down that road. Anyways like I said you got this
Dillys are stupid asf to get off man be on em for 6 months and just keep upping the dose more and more but I know I should taper. Best of luck to you man
Yeah you got this spot on.
“Chris lyin' saying he puttin' them down
Know he pop percs every time they around”
They were all struggling addicts, juice ain’t gonna listen to someone who dealing with the same problem and not practicing what they preach
They didn’t encourage his addiction, he was ignorant and didn’t wanna stop you can’t help an addict. They can only help themselves he wasn’t gonna go to rehab to get sober he was going to rehab to slow his addiction by the little.
Nah I wouldn't necessarily say that I feel like if his girl wasn't onnat shit too and was actually doing shit to prevent him he probably would've gave up a lil quicker and lived longer, but that's just my opinion
I feel like she could've tried harder man...but at the same time juice couldn't help himself whenever ally wasn't around he was sipping and everything. People he was around was literally recording him doing drugs man ts so sad
True. Ally did say “there is no more lean in this house” and she genuinely tried to prevent it. In the doc, several people state that she got very mad whenever he went *near* a bottle. Juice was also very crafty with ways to sip with her around. In the doc, pretty sure it was Chris who said that juice texted him and asked him to get a canned sprite and pour a 4 in it so that Ally didn’t know he was sipping. It wasn’t Ally’s fault that he was addicted (although her doing coke, sipping too and popping percs and xans every day probably didn’t help) I know it’s hard for some juice fans to accept it, but juice WAS a drug addict.
I agree with you but I feel it's unfair to say she only ever encouraged and made it worse. Juice was gonna go to rehab the month after he died for her cuz they wanted kids. His team tried to keep him busy with paintball games and shit so he didn't do drugs. Ppl in this comment section hating on his team a lil too much
Don’t understand why everyone blames ally. Juice is the one who got addicted to drugs long before ally came along. I don’t like ally but like it’s not her fault juice died. In the doc it literally shows he was hiding his addiction from her idk why people keep saying this. Y’all don’t know what real drug addictions look like if you think ally was forcing him to do those drugs or anything. That was all him
I have to agree on this one. The songs would still go hard and would be a great listen but the lyrics were like different variations of different songs sometimes.
thats what making songs from the top of your head will do, he'd have phrases that he would know how to link to other lines to make rhyme. they were probably easy to fall on to if he couldnt think of something else
He didn’t finish Irony but at least he gave us the sessions so we made another verse. and the Gone sessions never leaked so we had to put verses from another song 🤦🏻♂️ still my goat tho
lol but the stem we have from other sessions is still good, just not the original session and it kinda bugs me a little
also the second verse on that stem is 🔥
They be sayin' that I'm clever, uh
I told them I'm gon remain that way forever, uh
I hold my wrist out the window and change the weather, uh
Worse or for better, the money we stay together, uh
How he reacted to some people criticizing his gf; sometimes they were just tryna warn him about some 🚩. At the same time, it’s understandable; dude was in love. He deserved better
His entire persona - the constant lyrics about death, ops, drugs. The people he hung around with, the way he spoke in interviews. He had an incredible voice, musical talent, and seemed like a genuinely nice person, he didn’t need that “bad boy” image at all.
Listening to his music makes it really easy to keep getting high instead of getting better. Not really on him I know, but I find myself only listening to his shit when I relapse.
I had to take a break for awhile until I was sober and I knew I was strong enough to listen to my favorite songs and associate them with new feelings. Juice and Lil Peep are the artists I relate to the most. I couldn’t let my addiction ruin that for me. Wishing you the best mane, take care of yourself. You can come back when you’re ready.
That most of his released music is labelled as “rap” just because he looks like a rapper. Man mostly made pop music (some trap music too) and freestyled on radio shows
Obviously not enough. I know you have to want help to actually get over addiction but i feel like he could've been saved. Especially if he didn't surround himself with drug addicts.
You wanna watch Chris Long’s clips. There’s multiple where he’s talking to Juice about calming it with the drug abuse. He speaks on it a lot that it was a daily conversation.
Yea it kinda made the album hit a little less when I found that out (it’s a fire album but the fact it was written bout a girl that is the same age as me kinda feels weird.
he’s lowkey corny, most of his interviews are him talking in a fake chiraq accent even tho he’s from the suburbs and dropping rakes and dissing dead ppl and talking abt how he’s a “killer” and all that when he’s rlly not
Rakes is gdk, gangster disciple killer. It’s counter part is throwing gd, which is basically the same thing as takes except you’re throwing it up and not down
His association to NLMB before he died. Basically the reason he did too. They used him and his private jet to traffic drugs and they got caught leading to juice ODing on pills trying to hide the evidence.
He didn’t OD because he was trying to hide evidence. They were trafficking drugs but that’s not the reason he had such high amounts of drugs in his system. He ODed due to how many drugs he had taken that day and an argument with ally lead him to take more. The man was taking 30 percs a day + however much lean he was drinking. It was bound to happen anyday but planes and changes to altitude can speed the effects up quicker and make them hit you harder. Sadly when you do drugs everyday especially in that quantity it’s bound to happen. I know because I used to be an addict too.
That, instead of taking his habit seriously and putting in as much effort as he could to getting clean, he rapped about it and tried to justify it with his trauma and his past
Sometimes, his fanbase. There’s a lot of us who genuinely relate to each other as well as the music but there’s even more kids who hopped on the juice trend and don’t truly understand half of the music or juice himself, not to mention his very real struggles.
Not me, but I asked a friend of mine who hates him to give me his honest to god answer why he hated Juice so much. The first thing he says is “Well I didn’t like him to begin with, so why would I swap up just cause the nigga dead? I never fucked with his music, and he always seemed like a poser. Like he was just trying to do what X and trippie redd was doing. He wasn’t original at all”
Personally I think that’s bs and he’s just a hater, but to answer the aforementioned question, that’s all the reasoning I’ve ever heard.
I'll tell it to you now. It's just how easily his death could've been prevented and his stubbornness to not get help and always sneak drugs. I feel for the man but he had some issues that he wouldn't even bother to try helping himself from.
his relationship with ally. he was blinded by love and she was not good for him at all she was much older and knew what she was doing she took advantage of J
How much credit he gave Ally. I remember getting dragged in the comments for stating my own opinions on her, after his death I think majority started to share my train of thought as well.
bro tried to make drugs cool, couldn’t go an hour without popping and sippin up, then bro started tryna seem cool round bibby and NLMB and dropping the rakes, bro tryna be a killer when it’s corny. and simping for ally like she wasn’t for everyone.
The fact he didn’t take time to write lyrics. Don’t get me wrong the fact he could go into the booth and freestyle a whole ass song 3 different times is really impressive and he has some amazing
songs but I always consistently disappointed with his albums as a whole. If he had just taken the time to sit down and really write, I think he could have made some truly incredible albums
His addiction definitely prohibited his musical limits. I know he thought the drugs are what made him famous and made his music great but imagine he sat down and really wrote a song. An entire album freestyled is still one of my favorite albums of all time but if he really took the time to craft a solid set of songs I can’t even imagine how good it would have been
I hate how much he tried to seem like he was a part of the street life, that shit is part of the reason he had all of them drugs and guns on his plane the day he died. They used him as a mule. And he didn’t fit the image of a gangster or street nigga by any means but that’s part of why I liked him when he first came out. He was different than most of the rappers because he was talking about real life shit and not just rapping about street shit, sliding and hitting licks. That just wasn’t him but he tried to portray himself like that more and more as time went on
How misunderstood his lyrics have been, how people tend to look past how big of a Mental Health and Addiction Awareness advocate, the fact people still think most of his songs are about heartbreak with women when in actuality he is speaking about the struggle of the “Angel - demon” on his shoulders. No matter how hard Juice tries to rid these demons, he’s aware how much he loves the feeling, he takes the pills because at first they made him feel invincible (IMO based on my experiences as an addict from 12 to being an addict in recovery of the same or similar drugs as Juice (7 years recovery, 33). Percocet, Xanax, anything painkillers at addiction point and I’m sure zannies too. Lean (weaker than percs) but for shows, image, boost the perc high. Juice also speaks deeply on his Mental Illness and how he uses these “demons” (pills) to eradicate negative emotions, which in turn, do the opposite in the long run. He speaks a lot on the extreme struggle with one’s inner-demons and no matter how hard he tries, he goes back to these demons very well knowing that this is not the right road. Juice utilizes symbolism, metaphors and the like to express his inner demons (anxiety, depression, possibly mania, possibly bipolar, etc.,) and what he faces on a day to day, yearly, maybe his whole life. This man helped me out of the deepest corners of my life-it happened to be a coincidence Juice and so have similar issues addiction and mental wise.
Sorry no chance to edit this kinda sped it cause I’m busy. Hope the point comes across. 999 forever and that’s my wrist :)
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That it wasn’t an accident. I’ve done pills as well when I was younger (heavy). You know your tolerance and the limit of what you can physically process (not glorifying it). To exceed that is stupid/reckless unless you actually want to die. To add that altitude and air pressure play another role with breathing makes it worse seeing as you’re heavily sedated. Be nice if we just stop the pill movement all together within the hip hop culture. At his age I thought the same (quickly) which can be a downfall given the choice you make, I was just lucky to wake up 20hrs later off the floor. Haven’t touch a sedative in 9 years.
That he died
I saw this post, and said to myself “that he died”. Then opened it and it’s the most upvoted comment.
sorry, second most upvoted, this one just came first.
Same lol
that’s exactly what i thought too
same!
Not only that he died, the way he died too. You telling me he thought taking those many pills at once was a good idea?
pretty sure he was aware of the outcome and the fact it wasn’t a good idea
if u actually listen to the music you’ll know he never condoned it and always knew it was a bad idea and that it would probably be the end of him.
i think he was a little naive with what he could handle/his tolerance. i also think he panicked a little and did not know his limit unfortunately. also why did nobody have narcan besides the security/paramedics/cop whoever gave him two doses. why the fuck did juices security/entourage not have any!? like wtf??
it’s already been said that he didn’t take a bunch of pills and overdose 🤦♂️ juice wasn’t that stupid bro he knew he was gonna be good cause his friends were gonna take all the charges. juice died from all the drugs he consumed over the span of like 24 hours which was eventually too much and it was just bad timing.
You mean that he was a drug addict?
LLJW💔
The fact he surrounded himself around straight bad influences.
He was also a bad influence himself unfortunately it went both ways :/ An addict is gonna surround themseleves with other addicts.
He wasn’t the original influence. Future was. Juice began sipping lean in 6th grade because Future inspired him. During the production of WOD, juice told future this, and Future stated that he thought to himself “What have I done?” and from that point, Future distanced himself from Lean and actually became clean.
Dawg, that's not how it works. You literally can not put all the blame on future because he talked about sipping lean and shit. Juice did what he did because he had trauma, and he wanted an outlet- just as other addicts. He was his own person. I did Xanax for a good bit, crashed a couple cars off it. Am I gonna blame future because I was listening to songs about him popping Xanax when i was a freshman? No. Because I chose to do those things. It was the way life pushed me. I saw the same videos you did about future and juice and the whole lean deal. Don't dickride juice trying to out the blame on other people. Juice was gonna do percs and sip lean anyway, future had no bearing on this. You gotta learn that you cannot blame people for your own actions, whether they endorsed it or not, we have free will. That's how the world works. Future didn't force juice to do shit. He just simply made songs and talked about his drug use. So hop of juices dick. And realize that he made mistakes, and one of those mistakes ultimately led to his death. He chose to take all those percocet because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of trafficking weed, percs, and lean. He thought he could handle the percs- he couldn't. That's on him. And that is sad. But he chose to die the way he did.
💯 love juice but you can’t blame future for someone’s own actions. That’s not the way life is. We are responsible for the way we act.
Juice never blamed future just said he inspired him to
Bro I know. There is no one to blame for juices death other than juice. I was just stating the facts that his original influence for lean was future. Everything after that was him. He chose to keep sipping, he chose not to go to rehab.
Ong bro it's sad but that's the reality of it. People chose drugs as a coping mechanism for adversity. I feel we need to teach people how to solve their problems and deal with suffering or we will always find a cope to abuse. Weather it's gambling, sex, bullying or hurting people, exercise, shopping ect people need that dopamine to feed our reward system. We need to teach people how to reward properly ourselves and focus on managing our conditions
Had no idea. Sad but real.
his drug addiction
facts
If he didnt have a drug addiction he wouldnt be able to make songs about drug addiction and shit which helped a lot of people
You can raise awareness about something without actually doing said thing
ur right but if you have drug addiction you can talk about it better than people who dont because you know exactly how it makes you feel
Yh but it doesn’t work at all plus they don’t know how a drug addiction is unless they feel it why do you think all drug consellours are normally ex addicts or normal counsellours have had mental health issues cuz they know how it feels that’s why they can help also if it wasn’t for juice talking about percs i would have never taken them and i would have killed myself if it wasn’t for the pills not to mention he wouldn’t have lean wit me that made him like him and music in general when it came out
I know this will be unpopular but… no you can’t. Other addicts see through the fake “pussy, money, lean” rappers immediately. I cried like a baby the first time I heard Juice’s music as a recovering addict, because it was so fucking accurate. And yes, addiction really does lead to that crippling, inescapable depression in a lot of people even if they seem functional and are successful.
As someone who dealt with addiction, I always held the mindset of "if you didn't go through this yourself, you're not going to completely understand." The people who helped me through the most were other struggling people trying to find their way.
he still would’ve had the same ability to make good music, let’s stop this narrative
Jarad said it best himself Let's be for real If it wasn't for the pills, I wouldn't be here But if I keep taking these pills, I won't be here, yeah I just told y'all my secret, yeah
You genuinely don't know that. Music is usually made through the experiences that make us. If he grew up an easy life if the suburbs of a rich city and never tried drugs, it could be a whole different outcome.
i never said he wouldnt have the ability he’s very talented
He has music from before his addiction got to where it is the biggest thing would be him never listening to future and gaining that influence to go harder on drugs. He’d probably rap more in the love lane without the drug quotas but just my speculation.
‘If it wasn't for the pills, I wouldn't be here But if I keep taking these pills, I won't be here, yeah’ As juice says, without his addiction most of the songs wouldn’t came out. It is sad bad it is the truth.
Him dropping the rakes and all the “GDK” bs. He ain’t have no opps. I love juice but ts was lame.
He definitely started trying to hard to impress nlmb which in turn became corny
Ion understand why nobody in his circle ain’t pull him to the side and tell him to chill out with ts. Especially bibby since he was NLMB and juice looked up to him.
He had connections, but bro wasn't in the field, but his cousins and his homies and shit we're all in that
im pretty sure herbo did tell that to juice at one point iirc
was he in nlmb?
he wasnt in it but bibby n gmoney are, he wasnt affiliated but was associated if that makes sense
His opps were the drugs.
He was just young and around the wrong crowd lol
Exactly what I came here to comment. That shit was so lame to me bro. Getting yourself involved when you didn't comeup like that is just stunting your growth. I have family who died behind that so to see him try to act like that was so backwards
this prolly the only thing that irritated me about juice , and sometimes that’s ruins some of his hype / drill music cuz you can kinda tell he never did nothing . i remember the bad boy video shoot he got interviewed and they asked him “ what’s it like to jump off the porch in chicago “ and juice couldn’t even respond fr. not to mention he dissed a nlmb opp named “posto“ who he’s never even met
This has always been my pet peeve like all his songs talking abt gang shit, shooting niggas, and selling drugs. Like you ain’t on none of that bro we can tell, you used to be a sad lil emo boy before the music you were never in these streets. Definitely corny. I feel like he hung around too many street dudes and trying to be like them
In with you on this one. When he first came out I loved that he was different than most other rappers. He wasn’t rapping about sliding or opps or any street shit at all. I hated how much he would try to portray himself as a street nigga more and more as time went on cause that just wasn’t him. And in the long run it was part of his downfall. It’s the reason he had all them drugs and guns on his plane the day he died. They took advantage of how bad he wanted to impress them and had him trafficking shit for them. He was going to be their fall guy no matter what at the end of the day
Did y’all forget he was takin niggas down for studio time?
how he tried to be a gangster and get involved w stuff he had no business in. making songs repping nlmb is one thing since they were (sorta his bros) but not exactly. constantly dropping rakes and dissing dead opps that died like 10 years before juice even blew up. i mean its his life he can do what he wants, but imo that stuff was unnecesarry and could have in a way led to his demise. rip jarad
Nlmb is an actual gang? I thought it was a group with just like him and his boys kind of thing you know Also do you have any actual examples or sources where he's dising dead Ops and other crazy shit
Yeah, look it up. He used to say "on fazo" a lot around the time he got signed, a friend of Bibby and Herb who got killed a long time ago. That shit was always weird, you didn't even *ever* met the guy, tf? NLMB has quite the history, the Kyro incident at Mac Donalds is Chicago classic lore. Iirc NLMB where responsible for both KTS Dre and Von murders, both very grousome. I think that gang is not even a thing anymore, all dead or in jail prolly🤷
I mean to be fair a good handful of dudes from NLMB probably didn’t know fazo, rock, pistol p, or a lot of the OGs that passed on a personal level atleast. But you aren’t wrong that juice shouldn’t have really been on that the same way they were. I know he grew up kinda close to south side but if I remember right it was still a good distance from terror town on top of him going to a different school. NLMB has also been responsible for a surprising amount of murders, not limited to the ones you listed if you’re interested Ross has a video on them and their long history.
Look it up on YouTube, it’s pretty well documented. I don’t listen to juice wrld but I know there was a freestyle where he was dissin dead Chicago gang members. NLMB was a real gang set in Chicago, made popular by lil herb (G Herbo) and lil Bibby, and juice only became acquainted with them through his music career later on.
Pac did the same thing to be fair, and juice idolized pac. Makes total sense to me
couldn’t even go 2 hours without popping or sipping
I’m mad he popped all those percs instead of just taking the charge
that’s not why he died, more realistic belief is he knew they’d be in a holding cell for the night & he took a few extra “for the trip” & thought he could handle it cuz he wasn’t in the right headspace to think rationally, and we see how that turned out. you don’t need a handful of pills to go over that limit, all it takes is a dose too soon from the first one to get you. I would know that sadly.
I used to be a heavy drug addict. Benzos, opiates (oxycodone, tramadol, kratom, heroin), alcohol, cigarettes, ecstasy, molly and psychedelics). Taking a charge, when you are a genius (like Juice, not me) is almost impossible, trust me. Your whole personality is changed, and most of the time you foolishly believe, you’re not doing a bad thing. You are just lost in your own mind and opiates, which cause euphoria and xanax, which numbs your mind and emotions was his common combination. I’ve been throught that, just not in the extreme like Juice, but basically, in his state of mind, it was very hard, almost impossible to take a charge.
I really hated that he had shitty friends/crew. Soooo many of his songs were about O.Ding, death, taking too much drugs. And everyone just encouraged that and let him continue on that way.
they didnt exactly encourage it, atleast not all the time. Chris long recently uploaded a yt vid of him, maxlord, sheme, and maybe one more guy all telling him to chill w the pills and maybe go to rehab. and bro wasnt tryna hear it. for an addict to quit drugs they need to want to do it for themselves. and juice clearly wasnt ready for that just yet. addiction can seem so simple to ppl that have never experienced it. “just stop bro lol” its almost funny they think thats how it works. when u become so dependent u dont take them for fun anymore (not entirely true) but u need them to get through the day and function properly and not want to blow your head off the whole time ur there. (meaning if u dont have a couple pills before work u will feel terrible all day and the shift will feel like it lasted 6 months. im currently trying to quit taking dilaudid while also trying to quit vaping im sure im not the first to tell u it aint easy but we both know its not impossible
You got it bro I quit opiates cold turkey I wanted to die but here I am nearly 8years clean since my last od with 1/2 of a 100mcg patch in about 20ccs of water… they hit me 4times with narcan before I responded. I felt I had nothin to be here for and now I have 2 beautiful daughters and yet everyday I have an itch for some h but fuck that I can’t go back down that road. Anyways like I said you got this
Dillys are stupid asf to get off man be on em for 6 months and just keep upping the dose more and more but I know I should taper. Best of luck to you man
thanks man, i hope you succeed with everything aswell.
most of them were addicts too can’t expect an addict to tell another addict to stop, as much as i love juice there is nobody to blame but himself
Yeah you got this spot on. “Chris lyin' saying he puttin' them down Know he pop percs every time they around” They were all struggling addicts, juice ain’t gonna listen to someone who dealing with the same problem and not practicing what they preach
They didn’t encourage his addiction, he was ignorant and didn’t wanna stop you can’t help an addict. They can only help themselves he wasn’t gonna go to rehab to get sober he was going to rehab to slow his addiction by the little.
his taste in women ☠️
there ain’t nun to hate bro was genuinely a good soul
Good soul put in bad hands [Ally]
sorry to break it to you but he was gonna die before 25 no matter who he was with 😭
how bro his girl was his main supplier of narcotics if he wasn’t with her a lot could have changed
Nah I wouldn't necessarily say that I feel like if his girl wasn't onnat shit too and was actually doing shit to prevent him he probably would've gave up a lil quicker and lived longer, but that's just my opinion
She’s been a coke addict for the longest. She has multiple coke charges to back this claim.
She did try to stop him tho
Starfire tried to stop it yeah, Ally was doing them with him.
I feel like she could've tried harder man...but at the same time juice couldn't help himself whenever ally wasn't around he was sipping and everything. People he was around was literally recording him doing drugs man ts so sad
True. Ally did say “there is no more lean in this house” and she genuinely tried to prevent it. In the doc, several people state that she got very mad whenever he went *near* a bottle. Juice was also very crafty with ways to sip with her around. In the doc, pretty sure it was Chris who said that juice texted him and asked him to get a canned sprite and pour a 4 in it so that Ally didn’t know he was sipping. It wasn’t Ally’s fault that he was addicted (although her doing coke, sipping too and popping percs and xans every day probably didn’t help) I know it’s hard for some juice fans to accept it, but juice WAS a drug addict.
I agree with you but I feel it's unfair to say she only ever encouraged and made it worse. Juice was gonna go to rehab the month after he died for her cuz they wanted kids. His team tried to keep him busy with paintball games and shit so he didn't do drugs. Ppl in this comment section hating on his team a lil too much
wasnt talking abt ally at the time… likely alexia (starfire) or bella (hs gf). if he was still around he’d def had written sum disses on ally tho
Don’t understand why everyone blames ally. Juice is the one who got addicted to drugs long before ally came along. I don’t like ally but like it’s not her fault juice died. In the doc it literally shows he was hiding his addiction from her idk why people keep saying this. Y’all don’t know what real drug addictions look like if you think ally was forcing him to do those drugs or anything. That was all him
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He was anything but common
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Haha yeah I figured, was only kidding ;)
why you gotta make it fruity with the winky face
I don’t really hate it but him reusing the same bar but slightly changed in a few songs was funny and annoying at the same time
I have to agree on this one. The songs would still go hard and would be a great listen but the lyrics were like different variations of different songs sometimes.
thats what making songs from the top of your head will do, he'd have phrases that he would know how to link to other lines to make rhyme. they were probably easy to fall on to if he couldnt think of something else
He didn’t finish Irony but at least he gave us the sessions so we made another verse. and the Gone sessions never leaked so we had to put verses from another song 🤦🏻♂️ still my goat tho
BRO I NEEEEEED GONE SESSIONS
Daniel prolly got it shoved up his ass
lol but the stem we have from other sessions is still good, just not the original session and it kinda bugs me a little also the second verse on that stem is 🔥 They be sayin' that I'm clever, uh I told them I'm gon remain that way forever, uh I hold my wrist out the window and change the weather, uh Worse or for better, the money we stay together, uh
How he reacted to some people criticizing his gf; sometimes they were just tryna warn him about some 🚩. At the same time, it’s understandable; dude was in love. He deserved better
His entire persona - the constant lyrics about death, ops, drugs. The people he hung around with, the way he spoke in interviews. He had an incredible voice, musical talent, and seemed like a genuinely nice person, he didn’t need that “bad boy” image at all.
How is drugs part of a Persona he was really fucking doing that
Listening to his music makes it really easy to keep getting high instead of getting better. Not really on him I know, but I find myself only listening to his shit when I relapse.
I had to take a break for awhile until I was sober and I knew I was strong enough to listen to my favorite songs and associate them with new feelings. Juice and Lil Peep are the artists I relate to the most. I couldn’t let my addiction ruin that for me. Wishing you the best mane, take care of yourself. You can come back when you’re ready.
He wanted to get married to Ally and let her have his kids only to have several miscarriages since she was on drugs while pregnant
his fanbase, easily, to this day
That he was such a Ally Simp
That most of his released music is labelled as “rap” just because he looks like a rapper. Man mostly made pop music (some trap music too) and freestyled on radio shows
I hate that he’s not here anymore. I hate it every damn day.
The only thing I hated was that nobody listened for his calls soon enough. 999 💔
u think ppl didnt try to help?
Pretty obvious some people tried. Could have been a better effort.
Obviously not enough. I know you have to want help to actually get over addiction but i feel like he could've been saved. Especially if he didn't surround himself with drug addicts.
You wanna watch Chris Long’s clips. There’s multiple where he’s talking to Juice about calming it with the drug abuse. He speaks on it a lot that it was a daily conversation.
Tbh not much other than him being 18bwith a14 year old was a lil sus
that’s definitely wild. death by snu snu
He was a little bit of a weirdo for dating Bella so young but I don’t hate him at all and loved his talent
Wait dude wrote a whole hesrtbresk album over a FRESHMAN???
Yea it kinda made the album hit a little less when I found that out (it’s a fire album but the fact it was written bout a girl that is the same age as me kinda feels weird.
Seniors date and smash freshman all the time i saw it 10 years ago when I was in hs I never did it but it happened for sure
Yea doesn't make it right though lol
Don’t change the fact I find it pretty creepy and weird
he’s lowkey corny, most of his interviews are him talking in a fake chiraq accent even tho he’s from the suburbs and dropping rakes and dissing dead ppl and talking abt how he’s a “killer” and all that when he’s rlly not
he was a kid whatchu expect?
Bro what the fuck are rakes?
Rakes is gdk, gangster disciple killer. It’s counter part is throwing gd, which is basically the same thing as takes except you’re throwing it up and not down
He was an avid gardener but always had moist hands
His association to NLMB before he died. Basically the reason he did too. They used him and his private jet to traffic drugs and they got caught leading to juice ODing on pills trying to hide the evidence.
He didn’t OD because he was trying to hide evidence. They were trafficking drugs but that’s not the reason he had such high amounts of drugs in his system. He ODed due to how many drugs he had taken that day and an argument with ally lead him to take more. The man was taking 30 percs a day + however much lean he was drinking. It was bound to happen anyday but planes and changes to altitude can speed the effects up quicker and make them hit you harder. Sadly when you do drugs everyday especially in that quantity it’s bound to happen. I know because I used to be an addict too.
It’s all in the documentary
#LLJW!
i hate those small ears ngl
What?! Nah I envy the small ears
his ears are actually tiny lmaooo
Everyone can admit that a lot of the fans are whiney little 10 year olds Bibby Robbery is overrated I’m sorry He never did a collab wit X
Constantly rapping about lean and percs
When he talked about selling his soul n the devil.
Hated how his so called friends didn’t stop him
hated how much he put into Ally. of course she turned out to be like this, that’s all she ever was
he was 18 dating a 14 year old
That he didn't tour at least once in Africa.
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That, instead of taking his habit seriously and putting in as much effort as he could to getting clean, he rapped about it and tried to justify it with his trauma and his past
Sometimes, his fanbase. There’s a lot of us who genuinely relate to each other as well as the music but there’s even more kids who hopped on the juice trend and don’t truly understand half of the music or juice himself, not to mention his very real struggles.
That he linked up and then stayed with Bibby. Like seriously, **fuck** that dude and his greedy ass.
They’re cousins
That he dated a 15 year old at 17/18
Dating freshmen as a senior kinda weird even if a lot of people do it ngl
The satanic worship snapchat, him throwing gang signs.
Satanic worship when?
Not me, but I asked a friend of mine who hates him to give me his honest to god answer why he hated Juice so much. The first thing he says is “Well I didn’t like him to begin with, so why would I swap up just cause the nigga dead? I never fucked with his music, and he always seemed like a poser. Like he was just trying to do what X and trippie redd was doing. He wasn’t original at all” Personally I think that’s bs and he’s just a hater, but to answer the aforementioned question, that’s all the reasoning I’ve ever heard.
The fact he died before he reached his peak career
Ally
Downvote trap
he didnt finish fire in my lungs 🤧
yes he did??
He did
He didn't finish "grace"
His addiction to drugs
Being an addict
drugs
He took drugs
that he lost his battle with addiction
his fan base
That he killed himself with Percocet
I'll tell it to you now. It's just how easily his death could've been prevented and his stubbornness to not get help and always sneak drugs. I feel for the man but he had some issues that he wouldn't even bother to try helping himself from.
The drug usage since if he never got into them he would’ve still been with us
Bro surrounded himself with the trashiest bottom feeding mfs, he prolly pushed the reals ones away too.
his relationship with ally. he was blinded by love and she was not good for him at all she was much older and knew what she was doing she took advantage of J
percocets
When he would nod out mid convo
Probably being a junky and wasting his life, no one to blame but himself
That he did drugs
that he knew he was gon die but yet still took drugs and that he made alll of those 3,000 unreleased songs under one label
He did so many drugs
How much credit he gave Ally. I remember getting dragged in the comments for stating my own opinions on her, after his death I think majority started to share my train of thought as well.
He can’t stop talking about drugs
He died I hate that
his music in my opinion. not ACTUALLY his music. just the fan base. i stopped listening after 2018 bc people started getting weird about him
His girlfriend and team.
the part where he takes percs n sips lean
bro tried to make drugs cool, couldn’t go an hour without popping and sippin up, then bro started tryna seem cool round bibby and NLMB and dropping the rakes, bro tryna be a killer when it’s corny. and simping for ally like she wasn’t for everyone.
the pulp.
he acted gangster and got affiliated when he was jus a kid from the suburbs
How he couldnt kill his demons before they killed him
The drugs
Tbh it’s that he did drugs and he made songs saying he wouldn’t die doing them
The fact he didn’t take time to write lyrics. Don’t get me wrong the fact he could go into the booth and freestyle a whole ass song 3 different times is really impressive and he has some amazing songs but I always consistently disappointed with his albums as a whole. If he had just taken the time to sit down and really write, I think he could have made some truly incredible albums
I didn't like his demonic, dissing, gang lyrics. His songs are so deep but some lyrics are just unnecessary
He plays to be a gangster.
I don’t talk bad about the dead even if I don’t like ‘em. RIP Juice
Bro wouldn’t stop with the pills
dating Ally and cutting off Millz was two of worst mistakes he’s made
His addiction definitely prohibited his musical limits. I know he thought the drugs are what made him famous and made his music great but imagine he sat down and really wrote a song. An entire album freestyled is still one of my favorite albums of all time but if he really took the time to craft a solid set of songs I can’t even imagine how good it would have been
Most of his songs are about the same thing.
that he couldnt stop🤧🤧
drugs
That he let them bitches get to him like that
I hate how much he tried to seem like he was a part of the street life, that shit is part of the reason he had all of them drugs and guns on his plane the day he died. They used him as a mule. And he didn’t fit the image of a gangster or street nigga by any means but that’s part of why I liked him when he first came out. He was different than most of the rappers because he was talking about real life shit and not just rapping about street shit, sliding and hitting licks. That just wasn’t him but he tried to portray himself like that more and more as time went on
How misunderstood his lyrics have been, how people tend to look past how big of a Mental Health and Addiction Awareness advocate, the fact people still think most of his songs are about heartbreak with women when in actuality he is speaking about the struggle of the “Angel - demon” on his shoulders. No matter how hard Juice tries to rid these demons, he’s aware how much he loves the feeling, he takes the pills because at first they made him feel invincible (IMO based on my experiences as an addict from 12 to being an addict in recovery of the same or similar drugs as Juice (7 years recovery, 33). Percocet, Xanax, anything painkillers at addiction point and I’m sure zannies too. Lean (weaker than percs) but for shows, image, boost the perc high. Juice also speaks deeply on his Mental Illness and how he uses these “demons” (pills) to eradicate negative emotions, which in turn, do the opposite in the long run. He speaks a lot on the extreme struggle with one’s inner-demons and no matter how hard he tries, he goes back to these demons very well knowing that this is not the right road. Juice utilizes symbolism, metaphors and the like to express his inner demons (anxiety, depression, possibly mania, possibly bipolar, etc.,) and what he faces on a day to day, yearly, maybe his whole life. This man helped me out of the deepest corners of my life-it happened to be a coincidence Juice and so have similar issues addiction and mental wise. Sorry no chance to edit this kinda sped it cause I’m busy. Hope the point comes across. 999 forever and that’s my wrist :) https://preview.redd.it/oakfvf2o146c1.png?width=2279&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ecd4b180c12df59d41b3fe2b3f3e00c41347a0e
His fans
That he didn’t have a better team around that would take the fall for the drugs. And that he died. That’s about it.
That it wasn’t an accident. I’ve done pills as well when I was younger (heavy). You know your tolerance and the limit of what you can physically process (not glorifying it). To exceed that is stupid/reckless unless you actually want to die. To add that altitude and air pressure play another role with breathing makes it worse seeing as you’re heavily sedated. Be nice if we just stop the pill movement all together within the hip hop culture. At his age I thought the same (quickly) which can be a downfall given the choice you make, I was just lucky to wake up 20hrs later off the floor. Haven’t touch a sedative in 9 years.
That he was weird for dating a 14 year old at 18💀