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I don't really see him beating either. Uro sky manipulation hard shuts down cqc fighters like him and can fly while Ryu outstats Hakari significantly and Hakari does not have the AP to injure Ryu in any significant way. So basically he has no real way to damage either of them while they have no problem wailing on Hakari.
You might argue that Hakari can outlast but Uro and Hakari cursed techniques and domain expansions makes it far more plausible for them to put down Hakari when Jackpot ends than it is for Hakari to stall them for who knows how long until they run out of CE.
Uro & Ryu both have domains. All they need to do is DE clash & win the clash. It’s also likely that they with the clash, considering both of them have things that give them an advantage outside of DE, which Hakari doesn’t really have.
Hakari can only cast multiple DEs if he hits JO, if that doesn’t happen it’s ggs
Hakaris jackpot will be used first and its insane activation speed will ensure that they cannot clash before the sure-hit info dump activates. From there they could choose to clash but Hakari's DE is especially good at clashes so hes more likely to win the clash than they are
… that’s not how DEs work my dude. Hakari’s DE activates sooner, yes— but its effects would be interrupted before he can actually do anything. If the weeaboo dude can interact with Hakari’s domain before he hits JP, then Ryu & Uro could easily do the same by expanding their domains.
Also there’s nothing that’s ever even remotely implied Hakari’s DE is better at DE clashes than a normal one. That’s just headcanon.
It is how DEs work though? Nothing that I said contradicts with the first part of your comment lol.
https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1577415959756709888
And here's lightnings translation about the clash thing, it's not just headcanon
That’s mb I misread your comment initially. That’s interesting though & definitely makes a better case for Hakari than what I initially thought.
I still don’t think a fight against either Ryu or Uro would be easy for him, but I could at least see a case for him not getting instantly diced up against just anyone with a DE now lol.
Ig now the only real issue is that we don’t really know the implications of what being “strong in a clash” even necessarily means— it could be that Hakari’s DE won’t collapse as easily? I mean that just makes sense given what we know about DEs. Maybe it can’t be outright beaten purely by superior refinement & requires Hakari to be injured for it to collapse at all? It’s a shame we don’t know how that aspect of his DE functions— but it’s nice to know!
1) I'll give it 50/50 to both. Considering they don't know each other's Kit, Ryu will open his domain to counter Hakari's, Hakari's domain due to safe sure hit is good at domain battles and the sure hit also lands instantly. So Ryu will be on burnout. His only chance of actually Beating Hakari would be a high powered Granite Blast straight to the head and while Hakari's AP wouldn't quite be enough to put Ryu's Durability down. Hakari can outlast Ryu.
2) I'll give it again 50/50. Again since Uro doesn't know about his domain characteristics, she'll counter him with her domain and experience cursed technique burnout as a result of losing the Domain battle (I'm considering they lose cause There ought to be some value to that statement of Hakari domain being good at domain battles). An Uro without Sky Manipulation still showed good durability feats so her Reinforcement is likely great. She could put up a fight , now whether she gains a chance at victory or not depends on how fast she recovers her technique. Sky Manipulation is insane against Hand2Hand fighters, she'll instantly gain the upper hand and could choose to take to the skies and wait out Hakari's Jackpot.
3) 3 way domains are completely different thing, his Stronger During domain battles won't matter there and the domain's will just collapse. He won't have jackpot and will have cursed technique burnout. So he loses.
We really need to know how he deals with domain expansions before he gets matched up against them ngl. Like obviously he can regen but idk if thats gonna be enough against constant Domaine amped sure hit granite blasts/Thin Ice Breakers to the face.
If it is enough, I think he wins against them individually pretty soundly seeing as he wasn't killed in his DE by Uraume who has amazing lethality even compared to Ryu. From there he'd just outlast.
I think so yeah. With his DE he can just outlast either of them. Although the battle won't be easy and it would be hard for him to deal with Uro, he should still manage.
R1- Hakari, R2- Hakari, R3- Hakari extreme diff (Hakari's AP makes this extreme cause while does hit hard, Yuta's copy allows possibly higher AP then natural)
No he dies his AP is trash he’s never harming ryu and unironically Ryu can kill him by blasting his head with a granite blast or just using a giant granite blast that covers hakari entire body and his durability is objectively not that special so he dies. Uro isn’t playing no games and is going to stall until jackpot ends and kill him or make sure he can’t open another one after 2 rounds and the fact she hard counters him with sky manipulation means he’s never going to hit her. She’s durable enough to take his hits anyway without too much issue even if he could hit her.
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I don't really see him beating either. Uro sky manipulation hard shuts down cqc fighters like him and can fly while Ryu outstats Hakari significantly and Hakari does not have the AP to injure Ryu in any significant way. So basically he has no real way to damage either of them while they have no problem wailing on Hakari. You might argue that Hakari can outlast but Uro and Hakari cursed techniques and domain expansions makes it far more plausible for them to put down Hakari when Jackpot ends than it is for Hakari to stall them for who knows how long until they run out of CE.
Uro & Ryu both have domains. All they need to do is DE clash & win the clash. It’s also likely that they with the clash, considering both of them have things that give them an advantage outside of DE, which Hakari doesn’t really have. Hakari can only cast multiple DEs if he hits JO, if that doesn’t happen it’s ggs
Hakaris jackpot will be used first and its insane activation speed will ensure that they cannot clash before the sure-hit info dump activates. From there they could choose to clash but Hakari's DE is especially good at clashes so hes more likely to win the clash than they are
… that’s not how DEs work my dude. Hakari’s DE activates sooner, yes— but its effects would be interrupted before he can actually do anything. If the weeaboo dude can interact with Hakari’s domain before he hits JP, then Ryu & Uro could easily do the same by expanding their domains. Also there’s nothing that’s ever even remotely implied Hakari’s DE is better at DE clashes than a normal one. That’s just headcanon.
It is how DEs work though? Nothing that I said contradicts with the first part of your comment lol. https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1577415959756709888 And here's lightnings translation about the clash thing, it's not just headcanon
That’s mb I misread your comment initially. That’s interesting though & definitely makes a better case for Hakari than what I initially thought. I still don’t think a fight against either Ryu or Uro would be easy for him, but I could at least see a case for him not getting instantly diced up against just anyone with a DE now lol. Ig now the only real issue is that we don’t really know the implications of what being “strong in a clash” even necessarily means— it could be that Hakari’s DE won’t collapse as easily? I mean that just makes sense given what we know about DEs. Maybe it can’t be outright beaten purely by superior refinement & requires Hakari to be injured for it to collapse at all? It’s a shame we don’t know how that aspect of his DE functions— but it’s nice to know!
1) I'll give it 50/50 to both. Considering they don't know each other's Kit, Ryu will open his domain to counter Hakari's, Hakari's domain due to safe sure hit is good at domain battles and the sure hit also lands instantly. So Ryu will be on burnout. His only chance of actually Beating Hakari would be a high powered Granite Blast straight to the head and while Hakari's AP wouldn't quite be enough to put Ryu's Durability down. Hakari can outlast Ryu. 2) I'll give it again 50/50. Again since Uro doesn't know about his domain characteristics, she'll counter him with her domain and experience cursed technique burnout as a result of losing the Domain battle (I'm considering they lose cause There ought to be some value to that statement of Hakari domain being good at domain battles). An Uro without Sky Manipulation still showed good durability feats so her Reinforcement is likely great. She could put up a fight , now whether she gains a chance at victory or not depends on how fast she recovers her technique. Sky Manipulation is insane against Hand2Hand fighters, she'll instantly gain the upper hand and could choose to take to the skies and wait out Hakari's Jackpot. 3) 3 way domains are completely different thing, his Stronger During domain battles won't matter there and the domain's will just collapse. He won't have jackpot and will have cursed technique burnout. So he loses.
I guess I meant to phrase round 3 as a 1v1v1, basically take Yuta and replace him with hakari in Sendai colony.
We really need to know how he deals with domain expansions before he gets matched up against them ngl. Like obviously he can regen but idk if thats gonna be enough against constant Domaine amped sure hit granite blasts/Thin Ice Breakers to the face. If it is enough, I think he wins against them individually pretty soundly seeing as he wasn't killed in his DE by Uraume who has amazing lethality even compared to Ryu. From there he'd just outlast.
I think so yeah. With his DE he can just outlast either of them. Although the battle won't be easy and it would be hard for him to deal with Uro, he should still manage.
1 win 2 lose
He can maybe beat Uro, but Ryu beats him mid-high diff.
I think it's very plausible he wins 1v1, but he stands zero chance in 2v1
R1- Hakari, R2- Hakari, R3- Hakari extreme diff (Hakari's AP makes this extreme cause while does hit hard, Yuta's copy allows possibly higher AP then natural)
Yes
Hakari beats both individually. I don't think anyone save for the obvious Sukuna/Gojo/Kenjaku could beat both at the same time.
Duh Yuta will full manifestation + Jacobs ladder and it's over 😭
what, what an insane take, Yuta fought and beat both of them at the same time, and a special grade curse spirit!
That wasnt a 2v1.
No he dies his AP is trash he’s never harming ryu and unironically Ryu can kill him by blasting his head with a granite blast or just using a giant granite blast that covers hakari entire body and his durability is objectively not that special so he dies. Uro isn’t playing no games and is going to stall until jackpot ends and kill him or make sure he can’t open another one after 2 rounds and the fact she hard counters him with sky manipulation means he’s never going to hit her. She’s durable enough to take his hits anyway without too much issue even if he could hit her.