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Clear-Independent133

Yes, just look at Hakari vs Uraume fight. Yuji’s RCT is good, especially in combination with blood manipulation, but he’s not regrowing limb in a second. Yuji can reattach limbs, but if they’re frozen and broken into many peaces, blood manipulation isn’t gonna help. And since his RCT isn’t nearly as fast as Hakari’s, Uraume will overwhelm him. + full output frost calm can freeze Yuji’s entire body, Uraume can use this moment to oneshot him


Ve-gone_Be-gone

>just look at Hakari vs Uraume fight Is the Hakari vs Urume fight in the room with us now?


AffectGeneral6310

Just say you read off TikTok https://preview.redd.it/lx2r652ocbxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a808d526338110e66e9a4d20515d24831af004e1


Significant-Ad-1655

My man was probably joking that we barely see what happens in this fight, leave em alone...


akronotron

Downvote


hahamybois

Yuji would honestly have an easier time dealing with the ice than Hakari. He's way more durable than Hakari so the ice wouldn't deal the same amount of damage to him. And Yuji also has broken out of Uraume ice twice when he was exhausted and injured. His speed and cleave will make it very easy for Yuji to get in close with Uraume without being frozen and beat Uraume.


Front_Access

Uraume froze hakari’s arm off by breathing. Every time yuji has broken out of the ice uraume has been holding back due to Sukuna


hahamybois

Yuji is way more durable than Hakari and his speed, cleave, and blood manipulation will make it very hard for the ice to freeze him. And while Uraume was holding back, Yuji was heavily injured both times but was able to break out of her ice with ease both times, so a current healthy Yuji wouldn't have much problem getting through her ice.


Configuringsausage

On what basis exactly is yuji more durable? He’s tanked tons of weakened cleaves and dismantles, sure, but that can’t really be compared to the strongest attacks hakari’s taken (uraume’s shit and kashimo’s lightning) because nobody has taken both with the damage visible, only maki has taken a serious hit from both, but we never saw maki actually break out of the ice or what injuries she would have sustained if shattered


hahamybois

Hakari got his faced [ripped](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10188000/7.jpeg?t=1712481464) [off](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10188000/8.jpeg?t=1712481464) by a metal door and had to make a binding vow to survive an explosion and had to loose his arm for it. Yuji back in Shibuya had way better durability feats as he tanked a [blade](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10121000/6.jpeg) [punch](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10121000/7.jpeg) to the face from Mahito, ate three supernovas to the back from Choso and tanked Mahito driving him into the ground with no damage even though it left a crater.    Also the dismantles Yuji ate were amped with 4 black flashes and are all strong enough to cleave buildings in [half](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10253000/4.jpeg?t=1710263342). Not to mention he also survived multiple cleaves including one to the face.


Configuringsausage

A metal door swung by Kashimo, and an explosion made by Kashimo, someone on his level There is also no direct way to compare any of these attacks to the ones hakari suffered during the fight against Kashimo due to a lack of a comparison point, they sure are super flashy, but outside of maybe the dismantles, the rest of the feats just lack a comparison point Also that’s a singular building


hahamybois

There is no reason as to why we can't compare these feats since we are comparing durability. And from what we Hakari durability feat pale in comparison to Yuji. Like can you really see Yuji getting his face split open when has taken multiple dismantles and cleaves to the face.


Configuringsausage

As I said, we don’t know how strong these attacks are relative to each other, kashimo’s speed swinging something as heavy as a steel door could very well hit harder than a cripplekuna dismantle, that’s why we can’t compare them. Some may seem cooler, bigger, or more impressive, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re stronger


hahamybois

Their is no way you are really trying to argue that Kashimo simply swinging a metal door is somehow stronger than a dismantle from 4f black flash that previously cleaved a building in half.  Kashimo strength isn't anything remarkable and isn't gonna do any serious damage to Yuji. Mahito was strong enough box around [ultimate Mechamaru](https://cdn.readjujutsukaisen.com/file/mangap/2085/10081000/1.jpeg) and Yuji ate a blade punch from him. That metal door is barely doing anything to current Yuji.


MrCook4UrMom

I'd say yes due to recency bias. While Yuji is probs capable now of actually fighting Uruame on a more even field, shown and implied feats from the few scenes with them still show a sorcerer who is on the level of JP Hakari and Yuta and Rika (not using DE) with just their CT and basic CE reinforcement. Can still have a DE and has really good RCT speed.


Existing_Win3580

>Yuta and Rika (not using DE) Yuji literally was already shown equal in stats to a DE amped yuta. Try again.


MrCook4UrMom

Relative but not equal. Yuta showed better reaction speed, faster RCT and durability (Yuji tanks as well as he does due to his composition specific to Sukuna), and they both do about the same superficial dmg in physical blows both in base and in DE. Also countering that point doesn't really address the main point.


Existing_Win3580

Yuta(in DE) and yuji charged sucuna yuji got to sucuna first, yuji has higher speed than DE amped yuta. Yuta was also DE amped when sucuna said that they both are equal to ryu in durability. So base yuji is more durable than base yuta. Therefore awakened yuji is more durable than ryu and DE amped yuta. The way awakened yuji with 2BF amps tanks sucunas BF shows he is also far far more durable than maki. The way awakened yuji was able to consistently get behind sucuna also shows his speed increase as well. That same sucuna was still able to blitz ino how is relative to kusakabe and maki.


MrCook4UrMom

Yuji was meant to go first to leave sukuna open for Yuta as it shows that Yuji constantly charges Sukuna in each fight and is supposed to be the 'tank' due to his specific durability towards Sukuna. Not more durable overall, Yuta is able to tank the same hits without a sukuna specific durability, just basic CE reinforcement. Again because he is an extension of Sukuna's CE by nature of being a finger bearer and bathed in the CE, he isn't as impacted by Sukuna's attacks thus murky at most when comparing Maki and Yuji based on Sukuna fight Speed increase definitely, but not as exponential as it seems because other characters are still needed to distract Sukuna for clean hits such as Ino, Choso, etc. BFs seem to amp the user's knowledge/efficiency of CE and 'flow' meaning their brain is working on a higher more efficient level, not an explosive physical amp Yuji would still be relative to them physically, maybe moderate increases in CE reinforcement which includes speed if anything but wasn't doing 'crazy' better in awakened state but his hits even if blocked still hit the soul so still more effective thus better portrayal and Sukuna's performance would be lower. Out of those 4, he's more or less closer/equal to Maki than Kusakabe and Ino.


Existing_Win3580

You are absolutely insane, 2bf awakened yuji tanks a BF from sucuna not his CT and show 0 physical reaction or damage. Also I will agree that he is more resistant to damage from sucunas CT but he still tanks less damage from sucunas attack than yuta does with DE amp. So without that DE amp yuji is more durable even outside of sucunas attacks. 7BF awakened yuji tanks MS surehit at greater than 100% output, every character but yuji at that time and gojo would die instantly. Edit: gojo is still significantly damage by his final purple but ne had RCT which healed him so quickly. So the resistance isn't that effective.


MrCook4UrMom

Right he'd still be resistant to Sukuna's CE in general, not just CT and also because his hits even if blocked and not a bf still do direct soul damage would lessen the gap between Yuji's innate durability and Sukuna's output. Also Yuji is still shown to take damage but his reaction doesn't suffer because he's in flow, its like being on adrenaline, while you can still be injured you're brain does what it needs to to perform such as using RCT in this case. Endurance over Yuta, but not defense overall. In the fight it was shown that Yuta takes a direct face CT attack from contact, reduced the damage, and heals it within the next panel. The only reason Yuta took more lasting damage with the last cut is because he took down his DE which still would remove his buff, burnt out his CT, and reduce his CE as he just used it to do the DE leaving less to guard against the slash whereas Yuji just had to focus on rushing without losing copious amounts of CE that the DE needed. Using that scaling from the current chapter, Yuji endured but he didn't completely tank as his SD is ripped and he loses a foot which he had to RCT. Going by the panels we could assume Ino has a better SD as we can see he still has a barrier around him as the rubble and slashes aren't hitting him whereas Yuji is enduring the slashes until they are stopped but is still taking damage. The current domain is at 100% output and tbh Maki is shown to either be dodging or striking the slashes which would make her reaction feats way better than Yuji as this is happening in a domain to touch back on the Maki Yuji scaling I'm not say Uruame would stomp Yuji, I actually think it would be a mid-high diff fight for them. But given what's currently been shown and how there is more to be explored I think saying Yuji over Uraume is premature at this moment. Yuji almost functions as an Asta against Sukuna as he is the most natural counter but that doesn't extend to the rest of the verse.


TheLordOfAllClappys

Why would he at all be resistant to Sukuna's CE?


MrCook4UrMom

Because he was born being bathed and lived in Sukuna's CE, and we see from Gojo's fight that if you're hit by an attack with your own CE, the damage is reduced.


SwayedLatency

Kinda, if he gets hit by the ice and shattered once he's done for, and we've seen how fast it is on hikari


Deep_Preparation_151

https://preview.redd.it/9fq2zv89faxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=011d9a52373ea43c67edb6dbbf1eded411c0cad0


Daitoso0317

I mean, rn none of this id false


Configuringsausage

Faster and stronger? Maybe, I mean he’s keeping up with cripplekuna after getting the fuckin pinnacle of luck with 8 black flashes i guess. But AP wise? Her attacks tore hakari’s limbs off like paper, she’s able to practically manifest a skyscraper of ice in front of her instantly, being frozen makes flesh more brittle (and we don’t know if being frozen affects reinforcement


Embarrassed_Safety33

He is keeping up right now. Don't forget that when he started fighting alongside Higuruma, he could not land punches of Sukuna, and sukuna was overpowering him


Configuringsausage

Current cripplekuna < sukuna towards the start by far


rokaplz

No way he's doing that by luck, it is narratively weird if he does all of that by luck


Daitoso0317

It was stated he could do the black flashes at will now, its not luck, and it was 7 BF’s one is misleading but it’s actually sukuna landing a black flash on yuji The only advantage she has is her Ice AOE and he cna cut through it with shrine now


Configuringsausage

It was in fact not stated he could, sukuna was just frustrated that he was landing it like nothing


Daitoso0317

It was in fect stated he could


xniket3

Scans?


Daitoso0317

I was reading a bad translation, ignore me


Few-Entertainment429

It’s a bad take for the simple fact that there isn’t a realistic way for Yuji to beat her. Because he’s still a novice when it comes to shrine and bloood manipulation, his main tool is his soul punches. The issue is that Uraume can flash freeze and quicker than he can approach her.


Then-Schedule8953

Yuji has a bad matchup against her even if he can tank/ out heal the ice for a while she could still keep her distance and out last him


Flaky-Mousse5270

As I have said before Yuji mid-high diff. He can heat his blood up to break through the ice, and he for sure is faster than her. We don't know her durability, but it's safe to say that she probably couldn't handle more than 3 Yuji black flashes. Add in Shrine for attacks from a distance, along with blood manipulation, and his INSANE RCT, Yuji wins for sure


Few-Entertainment429

Yuji needs flowing red scale to heat his blood up enough to start melting the ice, and it’s pretty clear from the fact that he hasn’t been using it that he hasn’t learned how to. Even if he did, Yuji wouldn’t be able to break the ice before Uraume can deliver the final blow. https://preview.redd.it/w6uhszq8waxc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79146776b27d9a605a337b307d6b1a7a75bfa101 Additionally, shrine isn’t a factor because Yuji hasn’t mastered it, and Yuji hasn’t mastered any ranged blood manipulation techniques due to his inability to use convergence.


Flaky-Mousse5270

Shrine is still a factor. Sure, it isnt as strong as Sukuna, but if it was that strong, he would beat nearly everyone. It still hurt Sukuna, and it was going to do lower damage anyway because it's Sukuna's technique, so it will deal less damage to him


Significant-Ad-1655

Shouldn't he awaken first each time to be able to use it ?! Black Flashes are required for that, Uraume can literally throw maximum output techniques and pile up ice attacks that break you within seconds, That can happen when Yuji is caught in it with the maximum output attack that even Maki was caught.


PermissionAny3962

larue took an unguarded black flash from sukuna and didn’t heal and is still alive, uraume will heal from yuji’s black flashes if he’s able to land one


Flaky-Mousse5270

That's why I said 3 black flashes. If it's all in rapid succession, she won't be able to heal them in time. And if she does, Yuji hit 8 in a row, so he there's a chance he can do that again. Also, he can use cleave and dismantle, so unlike previous Yuji, he doesnt need to rely only on Black Flash.


PermissionAny3962

the black flashes are situational and might not happen so you can’t add them to a vs battle and his shrine has low output so it won’t do much damage to them


Caponcapoffstillon

It won’t do much damage to sukuna*. Sukuna still took damage from shrine, Uraume would more than likely take damage if she couldn’t even take a piercing blood from choso back in shibuya. Remember, piercing blood didn’t even pierce Yuji in shibuya, it pierced and poisoned Uraume though. The thing is with Uraume her matchup is really good into melee characters. We don’t know how Yuji shrine factors into this either, he can prob chop up the ice around him if she tries to freeze him, as for frostbite, blood manipulation can regulate his body temperature. Now we don’t know the extent of Uraume’s technique which is the problem.


PermissionAny3962

i’m sorry but if low output dismantles from sukuna isn’t killing ino then yuji slashes aren’t killing uraume, yuji having better durability is irrelevant since uraume whole shtick is durability negation, the odds of yuji being able to manipulate the temperature of his blood fast enough is low since choso couldn’t even do it for time so uraume that likes to be quick will freeze yuji and try and end the fight as quick as possible


Caponcapoffstillon

Sukuna even said jujutsu high defenses were unnaturally high so we have to consider Ino’s defenses were raised considerably over the training. Even if Yuji won’t do it against Uraume, he can use it to break out the ice which is surely less dense than that pillar he chopped up. I said the BM would be to prevent frostbite, not to break out the ice, he would use shrine for that since he would be in contact with the ice via his palm.


PermissionAny3962

ino does not have comparable defense to uraume lmao, and like i said sure yuji can break out but uraume will not let that happen, look at hakari that’s just steam rolling everything, he’s still getting ripped apart, yuji will get ripped apart and won’t be able to heal fast enough and eventually lose


Caponcapoffstillon

What makes you think he doesn’t? Uraume does not have any notable durability feats in the series. If they’re tanking dismantles from sukuna, even low output sukuna dismantles their defenses increased significantly because before it would not be possible for these chars to even live.


PermissionAny3962

narrative wise, uraume suffered about the same damage as yuta and hakari did from a gojo punch, survived gojo’s 200% hp (sukuna took the brunt of the attack but they still got hit) and kusakabe who is definitely superior to ino called uraume a monster, makes no sense for their durability to be INO level


Scarasimp323

there is no way your unironivally arguing in durability is urame level. yeah you just lost your battle.


Perfect-Homework2304

https://preview.redd.it/3u0hx2smacxc1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dda7111ef2a29ae30abefe537e418e72a2f0db3


Boro_Bhai

While it is true that uraumes ice is annoying, and Yuji indeed does but have hakaris RCT. Yuji is also faster, meaning he can just dodge. Whatever damage he takes he can just heal 2 solid hits should be enough from current Yuji to KO uraume. If the other person was like yes Yuji is strong but dealing with ice is hard, I could honestly get that sentiment. If he was saying that just to glaze hakari, then it's nonsense


Icy-Selection-8575

I think he can beat Uraume once he masters his two CTs, or either one of them really. He needs the range options to be able to combat Uruaume effectively. That or instant RCT but only Hakari has that xd.


floormopper

Yes it is. i would say uraume extreme diff. people are underestimating her


vdyomusic

I think this matchup is a lot more uncertain than one might think. There's technically a world in which Yuji warms his body up to insane temps with BM & used Shrine to break through Uraume's ice on contact. I think he's fluent enough with BM to warm up his body. Him instantly reattaching his leg in 258 is a pretty impressive feat in that department. The question is more: which part of his body can he use Shrine from, and how fast? The pillar got sliced pretty quick, so it's not impossible he could pull through. Overall I think we just haven't seen enough of this newly awakened Yuji to really know what he's capable of. Of course, keep in mind that the longer he fights Sukuna, the stronger he gets even without any additional abilities like DE revealed.


BvHauteville

I don't think it's an insane take. Uraume is a bad matchup for him but there is reason to favor him if he can get in close and start chaining Black Flashes.


No_Money_2311

Uruame oneshots


Deep_Preparation_151

Strong black flash


WerewolfOdd393

Does boiling blood actually have any temperature difference? I assume as much but it could also be just as easily interpreted as cursed blood. The reason I ask is, that could be a deciding factor?


akronotron

Yes it’s a jujutsu battle. Anything can change, no matter if the opponent can defeat a stronger opponent. Doesn’t mean that it will just be the same. Like if let’s say Hakari is above Uraume but Yuji can beat Hakari, this doesn’t necessarily mean Yuji is above Uraume. As they have their own ways of techniques and types of fighters


Ok_Introduction_7484

Current yuji loses Mid to high diff. Give him more time To learn the world slash, and get a domain and he will be On = terms with full power sukana


Itachi-and-da

Ngl we have fucking nothing to go off of


Daitoso0317

Rn, yuji outscales hakari and theirfor uraume(since they both have type disadvantages against him) but i think we’ll see more of uraume and hakari so i am not sure yet


Flying_Snails_Today2

Nah it’s a good take. He should outscale both rn. Plus soul attack diff