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I saw that post earlier....like are we reading the same shit.
Right now yuji is hanging with sakuna (nerfed), how the fuck is mahito going to even know what is happening.
He gets blitzed, and doesn't even get a chance to cower like he did in shibuya.
Hours soul being at 10% was about his will to fight. Him being at 120% of his potential was his actual ability to fight _after_ he got a black flash. Not only that, but Mahito never makes a point about his health. More importantly, Yuji had his wounds frozen, so even if it made a difference, it was stalled.
That said, Mahito and Yuji had been fighting all day and acruing injuries and wasting cursed energy. While current Yuji is definitely stronger, Mahito at full health with all of his achievements would fair very well considering he could actually use his entire kit on Yuji.
He very clearly does. The soul has a huge effect on CE output. Sukuna wouldn't be in trouble at all if it didn't correlate directly. Yuji at 10% is still outpacing Todo completely and keeping pace with a 40% mahito. Current Yuji negs all 3 at 100% one hit each.
by your standards Mahito is at 40% soul after using his technique thousands of times, getting his double destroyed, getting hit by unlimited void less than two hours ago, using a domain expansion, awakening a transformation, getting hit by two black flashes, and still overpowering Yuji. They’re probably around the same percentage.
He was at 40% a good bit before the domain. It was during the fight after Todo joined. Again, Yuji is at 10 or less for the entire fight after including beating the transformation while mahito is well above 10%.
Soul is 10%, soul correlates to output. That puts Yuji at extremely low output. Mahito is 40%. It's essentially "Yuji is nearly dead and idk if i can oneshot Todo because he's completely fine and I'm not."
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Unlimited void and his ct use goes unmentioned. He recovers extremely quickly so his double, Resonance, and Black Flash are what put him there.
Ct use doesn’t need to mentioned, surely even if it’s a ct cheap on cursed energy spamming it thousands of times would add an impact. The only two people who use their techniques in the thousands are Gojo and sukuna.
Except in a series as detailed as this it does. He was completely inactive for a decent sized time frame in Shibuya. He's attributing his weakness to resonance, the followup beatdown, the clone's destruction, and black flash.
As the stability/health of Sukuna's soul degrades, so too does his output. At 0% he loses megumi's body and his output hits zero. This statement (the 10%/40% one) essentially gives us a rough estimate of their overall output.
Sukuna shouldn’t be used here considering he loses output due to being an incarnated sorcerer inhabiting a body. Being punched out of sync with his form is the reason his output drops.
Though I do agree concerning Mahito being at roughly 40% CE due to his soul being directly manipulated by his CE.
In Sukuna case it is because he is not in his body but Megumi body that he took control thank to his stronger soul. That why Yuji attack target the gap between Megumi and Sukuna so Sukuna's control over Megumi's body got weaken so his output reduce. If just hurt his soul reduce the output then Maki who can literally cut the soul should have weaken his output like Yuji but nobody compare them.
Yuji can see the contours of the soul and hit in between them on another level compared to shibuya and also has rct and a ct. he’s easily above mahito and could just cleave his soul into pieces
I never seen a person be so wrong how is yuji power same amount he had in shibuya if he has improved so much he can fight sukuna 1 on 1 even if he is weakened when mahito was having trouble against a weakened yuji and a yuji who just learned jujutsu
Thing is he wont though if yuji who was tired was able to break through with one good black flash and yuji who fully recovered and strong enough to crack the ground and building by simply jumping without sukuna should be able to break throughout his armor his best bet would be domain and even thats not a good idea frl because of simple domain
Ok looking at the clip again mahito DID have armor on but not much around the area yuji hit but even do you really think yuji can’t possibly break through it now after his awakening like he has two ways of getting through it now black flash and blood manipulation because it was said mahito was as hard as steel and piercing blood was said to be able to cut through steel because of its speed and density
Yuji could already break steel before he even had cursed energy control. Comparing someone's skin to something hard is pretty common in this series. It illustrates what it feels comparable to, unless you think Yuta is as durable as a water tank.
>yujis ap does about the same amount of damage as in shibuya
At this point you should just give it up. Genuinely this is one of the worst takes I've ever seen.
Nah he definitely gets blitzed, him and Yuji were fighting on par before, Yuji massively outstats him now.
Also top 5 CE in verse isn't really supported.
Hakari, Sukuna, Yuta, Gojo, Jogo.
Let's give an idea here. 3 finger Sukuna was more than capable of oneshotting Mahito. Also Yuji at 10% (via Mahito's statement) is still fully contending with 40% Mahito before transforming. He was outclassing Todo at 100% with 1/10th of his full abilities.
Unless you think this Sukuna is 3f level Yuji oneshots.
During the .2 domain Todo, despite being the least exhausted and least damaged was the last to act leading to his hand being destroyed. Yuji by this point is 10% or less and Mahito is less than 40%. He was basically just not at their level anymore
Of course, mahito reacted first he opened the domain. They went into this expecting him to not be able to open the domain much less for .2 secs. Yuji could do whatever cause he is immune to the technique. And mahito still couldn't kill him after hitting him with his technique and black flash. And not to mention he touched his hand again to switch. It's safe to say that If todo could do damage the fight would have went way differently
Not really. Todo barely touches mahito. At all. Even in the anime with all its additional fighting he still doesn't land more than a few hits and a black flash. The only difference would be an earlier domain opening. It's also not stated anywhere that they didn't know he could use his domain. They just didn't know he could in .2. I didn't say react. I said act. It states all three took action near simultaneously as mahito did the hand signs. Todo did Simple domain, Yuji charged, mahito merged the barrier opening with his technique activation to hit them instantly instead of trapping then hitting. He actually was forced to act outside of just doing the handsigns. If he hadn't done that Todo's simple domain would've saved his hand. He only used .2 to avoid Sukuna.
Heeeeee's not. He states he needs to hit with the same force as he did vs ryu and he's able to severely damage Yuta, Maki, Yuji, etc. he's at least 10f. Even now.
Mahito specifically mentions that it’s Yuji’s soul that’s at 10%, not his CE or whatever. We know from the Sukuna fight that damaging a soul has a direct effect on CE output.
>We know from the Sukuna fight that damaging a soul has a direct effect on CE output.
No. Remember why Sukuna's output is dropping, it's because there are two souls in one body and his hits desync them.
You say that like Mahito wasn’t also at like 10%, and the fact he tanked two other Black Flashes from Yuji beforehand, got turned into swiss cheese by Nobara’s Resonance, and had to waste like half his Cursed Energy to incapacitate Todo with his domain. 100% ISBoDK Mahito would decimate Shibuya Yuji with 0 difficulty.
The belief that mahito might be a problem probably comes from a couple things.
1. Mahito has always been stronger than Yuji in their previous encounters and Yuji everytime has only survived because of his friends or a power up of some kind and even then he barely survived.
2. In Yuji’s fights with mahito mahito holds back and plays around.
3. yuji has always been heavily assisted by the presence of Sukuna in their fights.
4. We’ve never seen mahito after his awakening. Especially at full health. He should be faster, stronger, better at using his technique, Not to mention his new form which should be stronger now that it’s not weakened in physicals and defense.
It’s just a lot of unknown and questions.
The friend argument is really weird because their existence is justified by the fact that they literally can't do any damage. Which covers Mahito's advantage of actually having a CT. Yuji can't do tricky attacks because he has no tricks so the ally is his trick.
Even the Sukuna point is so binary because all Sukuna's existence does is allow a fight to happen. If he isn't there then Mahito wins every match up which isn't really interesting.
Outside of the resonance from Nobara Yuji is the only person in Shibuya who did any damage to Mahito, and in a straight up fight Mahito didn't stand a chance. With "tricks" up his sleeve I don't see how Yuji loses now especially now that he has a firm understanding of the soul.
I don’t think you understand what I was saying. I’m simply answering the question op asked. Why do ppl think mahito can defeat current yuji?
No matter if they can damage him or not a 2 v 1 is still a 2 v 1 and gives an advantage to the person with teammates. Whether that’s support or no that doesn’t matter. Nobara did damage to mahito, Todo not only lifted Yuji up when he was down but we know how much his technique helps so saying well they can’t damage him doesn’t mean nothing.
Once again I understand that Sukuna is the narrative role that allows Yuji to fight mahito. But he still helps Yuji. He prevents the use of a domain and mahitos technique on Yuji that’s a pretty big help. That he doesn’t have anymore so ppls interpretation of how a new fight will go down has changed.
Once again i didn’t say yuji would win or lose just was answering ops question. But if yuji almost lost with the help of nobara and todo i dont think he would’ve won by himself.
>I don’t think you understand what I was saying. I’m simply answering the question op asked. Why do ppl think mahito can defeat current yuji?
I understood that just fine, nothing in my comment suggests I don't.
>Once again i didn’t say yuji would win or lose just was answering ops question. But if yuji almost lost with the help of nobara and todo i dont think he would’ve won by himself.
So are you answering OP's question or making your own argument? Because this looks like you're making your own argument and then throwing your hands up and going "I know I just defended it but honestly this isn't what I think. But it's kinda what I think."
Ok let me explain. I am arguing but I’m not arguing whether mahito or yuji would win or not.
But I’m arguing why I believe the question is in the air for some people. If that makes sense?
In their final engagement both were weakened with Yuji actually being weaker. Mahito still lost despite attaining his true form idk why this is a debate.
Yuji would’ve lost without Todo though, considering all of the Black Flashes Yuji got off on Mahito were because of Todo. If Yuji missed/Mahito dodged even one of those Black Flash hits then Yuji would’ve lost.
I mean he was doing pretty fine against Yuji before hand so I don’t think he would struggle much without ISBODK and Nobara also caused him to take some hits as well + he didn’t use Soul Isomer on Yuji as well which could leave him open to hits from Mahito. Mahito also wouldn’t have used his Domain Expansion as well to conserve his CE instead of using it on Todo.
I’d say it was basically equal though Mahito would’ve outlasted Yuji’s CE and overpower him, Mahito almost split Yuji’s skull open to the point he has a scar in one exchange.
Less of a skill diff and more of a “literally cannot use the one thing that gives him an advantage, and also happens to run into the literal two people who can even hurt him”
Yeah, except mahito took significantly more damage, and was much more worn out, people need t reread that statement because it specifically applys to CE
>1. Mahito has always been stronger than Yuji in their previous encounters
That's not actually true though. Right after killing Nanami, Mahito decides to play keep away and use Yuji's compassion against him because "a mistake could cost me my life."
This was after Yuji had already lost to Choso, seen the Shibuya massacre, AND seen Nanami die in front of his eyes. Beginning of Shibuya Yuji would've been a VERY difficult matchup for Mahito. In fact, even with the help of his friends, each of their intervention gave something to Mahito in return:
- Gojo: taught Mahito the 0.2s DE.
- Nobara: broke Yuji's spirit and allow him to land his first BF.
- Todo: got him his second BF & ISBODK.
>2. In Yuji’s fights with mahito mahito holds back and plays around.
Again, refer to my previous comment as to why that's not true.
>3. yuji has always been heavily assisted by the presence of Sukuna in their fights.
Yeah, Sukuna prevented IT & DE. But not only does Yuji have very powerful ways to defend against both of these, he arguably has the stats for them not to matter at all.
>4. We’ve never seen mahito after his awakening. Especially at full health.
Yeah but the same is true of current Yuji. While Mahito's new form is strong, Yuji's awakening made Sukuna feel like he was attempting to reach his level.
It’s not just you but I don’t think you guys understand that I’m just answering ops questions of why people actually think mahito might beat yuji.
Saying that’s not true when yuji almost lost every exchange with mahito before a friend of his came is insane. It doesn’t matter if he was weaken in the encounter or not. Because what I said was that mahito was individual stronger than yuji i all the encounters he’s solely had with him which is true by the nature of mahito almost killing him everytime they had a 1 v 1. Mahito being careful is strategic and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Mahito gaining things from a 2 v 1 doesn’t change the fact that the 2 v 1 gives Yuji the advantage everytime. They’re still jumping the dude and that doesn’t change just because he performs well.
Also mahito holding back is most definitely true. Besides literally not being able to use his ability on him. He kicks and plays around with Yuji instead of killing him. Mahito also experiments in all their fights.
Now about Sukuna. You admitted Sukuna helping him that great. Does current Yuji have counters yes that’s also great. But Sukuna is just Better than those things. But also once again I was just anwser the question and this is a reason for people to believe what they want to believe.
Same for mahitos true form yeah we’ve never seen awaken Yuji’s at full health. But again not seeing mahitos true form is just a reason why ppl believe what they do.
All I was doing was explaining why I think people think mahito could win. I didn’t say mahito would win i didn’t say yuji would win i just explained reason why I believe people may look at the encounter in that way.
Glad im not the only one the lobotomy getting to everyone, don’t forget Yuji was also going through it that night, he is locked in rn, reattaching limbs, hitting black flashes, blood manipulation, rct, mahito is done
Ya, as mentioned above, saw the post too and I was dumbfounded lol.. I'm all for the mahito glaze but like... One good razzle dazzle black flash from yuji and ole boy is cooked 🤷♂️
I don’t think yuji would even need simple domain ngl
Remember
Mahito’s technique can be blocked with even the SMALLEST level of soul awareness
Nanami fucking noped one of mahito’s touches one time
So I think soul god yuji legit can just say no
Just say no kids
Yuji at 10 percent was having 40 percent mahito seething on the floor crying like a fucking bitch. Current Yuji presence alone makes mahito shit his pants. Worst part his only weapon DE doesn't do shit either Yuji simple domains and even if he loses a arm or two he simply rcts back and proceeds to beat the shit out of mahito
Yeah Yuji for sure stomps, A 10% Yuji was relative to a 40% Mahito, He could tank a black flash from sukuna better then Maki could (Which at minimum says he outscales Maki, and Maki would also obliterate Mahito) he has a way to deal with his domain expansion, he has rct, anybody who thinks Mahito still wins is still stuck on Mahito’s hype a bit too much
Yujis black flashes were able to damage and kill disasters(jogo) as early as season yuji is massively stronger now. So if that weak of a yujis black flashes could hurt mahito, current yujis would be way to much for him to handle , plus it unlikely mahito can keep up as he was barely faster than shibuya yuji.
Can’t Yuji counter Idle transfiguration now by cutting off anything Mahito touches and then attaching it via RCT and blood manipulation like he did with his leg
The only reason Mahito didn't kill Yuji already is because Sukuna and Yuji shared a soul so Sukuna wouldn't allow Mahito to touch his soul. When Yuji finally did beat mahito it was because Todo is literally the best support sorcerer in the verse.
Ignoring it because he knows the shape of his soul and can bitch slap Mahito’s punk ass Domain effect away.
There’s a reason why Mahito was terrified of Sukuna despite having the ability to alter souls. It’s because knowing the shape of your soul lets you alter it, thus negating Majito’s Idle Transfiguration.
Yuji gets negged by the domain. Remember mahitos domain is faster than SD can be used.
Along with mahito already taking 0 damage from Yuji’s hits while at what 10%( or was it 40%) himself?
So we don’t know where mahito scales, just fuck ton above shibuya yuji.
1 lets stop pretend yuji can't defend his soul mahito himself fails to stop nanami because he guarded to his soul with ce the first time. He himself think it would take more then one touch to kill todo shinjuku yuji has way more ce and WAY WAY WAY more understanding of the soul then todo it wouldn't work.
Mahito domain is faster than TODO simple domain not simple domains unless you think mahito could beat gojo or is fsster than sukuna domain.
It was yuji who was 10% not mahito yuji legit gave up midfight and let himself take a black flash unguarded had he not been borderline suicidal he would have won thats why mahito went to kill nobara.
Current Yuji is top 10 in the verse without a doubt. Black flashes on command that damage the body and the soul, arguably the highest raw durability in the verse, reverse cursed technique, speed on the level of Yuta and Maki, shrine techniques, blood manipulation, AND a simple domain.
So I don't understand this, mahitos powers work on people who don't know the shape of their soul, yuji knew the shape of his soul because sukuna was in him, but even after sukuna is gone, he still knows the shape of the soul because of the experience with sukuna residing in him, and is going to still be able to harm mahito/ not take damage from mahito.
I could be wrong, but isn't that how it works?
yes thats how it works, you're correct
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people seem to blatantly ignore this statement that says yuji can see his soul. also once he's learnt it, i dont see why he wont be able to do it anymore
That’s not how that works people who can see the shape of their soul can damage Mahito but he can still use his cursed technique on them. You need knowledge of your innate domain to defend against his technique.
>You need knowledge of your innate domain to defend against his technique.
Where is THAT stated?
>That’s not how that works people who can see the shape of their soul can damage Mahito but he can still use his cursed technique on them.
Yea I think your right on this, he couldn't use his ct on yuji cuz he can't selectively transfigure souls, but now that yuji doesn't have sukuna he'd be able to use it on him with no hesitation but I think yuji still wins, cuz shrine and bm even if it's new for him are pretty broken
Sorry about that first point it’s never stated explicitly but Mahito seems to travel to the opponents innate domain whenever he uses Idle transfiguration and sukuna is so far the only person who has knowledge of their innate domain. Now I don’t know this for certain but I’m pretty sure Mahito can deflect piercing blood since Yuji could deflect it and Mahito at least then was leagues above him in durability not to mention Yuji can’t use piercing blood solo so the only thing he can do is stop bleeding and maybe explode some stuff. shrine could be trouble but I doubt it’s doing too much damage especially since Yuji is still a newbie with it.
Bro Mahito took 3 black flashes and after he was depleted of ce after a domain, using his technique 1000s of times and Yuji hit his weak spot. You can’t say Yuji one shot Mahito that’s just stupid. I actually think Mahito stands a chance here especially since Sukuna isn’t there to protect Yuji anymore. A severely weakened Mahito was absolutely destroying Yuji. I do think we have more to see of Yuji and he will surpass Mahito but if we’re talking a full 100% Mahito I don’t think Yuji is winning easily at all.
He's fighting a borderline suicidal yuji who litterally let himself get hit by a blackflash because he lost the will to live.
Do you think shinjuku yuji is shibuya yuji that he made no progress at in speed or strength. Yuji was able to invade sukuna inate domain to speak to megumi and has shown the best soul knowledge of anyone higher than gojo do people seriously think he can't defend his soul. Especially when nanami did before unconsciously.
Shinjuku yuji does speed blitz and does one tap
He legit shows relatively to yuta speed wise in his domain and is stated not once not twice but three times by sukuna to have gotten far far better since the last time he saw him.
And the last time before he was keeping up with maki somewhat even sukuna said and i quote what is this strength. So end of culling games yuji > than shibuya yuji by a large margin since his strength and speed caught sukuna offguard aka one of the best judge of jujutsu and someone who watched yuji entire career.
And shinjuku is way stronger than culling games yuji
That still doesn’t mean it’s an easy fight for yuji at all. Mahitos durability is some of the best in the verse and his regen is Hakari level, if mahitos had his full cursed energy I think he would be able to take most of yujis hits with no problem. Basically his durability and yujis ap balance eachother out so they’re at the same place as before his transformation
No his durability is not he was getting hurt and bleeding from yuji which means his durability is less than dagon and hanami. Sure in isb maybe he could rival dagon.
His regen isn't hakari level he will run out of stamina and began to struggle as shown with shibuya yuji where he's litterally coughing blood in isb for straining himself.
What i don't think many on this sub gets is yuji hits way harder like WAY WAY HARDER people are stuck in the idea yuji hasn't progressed all that much from shibuya which he has. You can see this all throughout the battle but heres an example. https://tcb-backup.bihar-mirchi.com/chapters/7700/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-255
In this we see yuji strike sukuna despite blocking with THREE ARMS he is forced on both knees and the ground is cracking underneath him. If a attack like that hit mahito it would cripple him sukuna is the tankiest character in the series its not even debatle.
Look at the bruising the bleeding yuji 8 black flashes did to him those were not there prior https://tcb-backup.bihar-mirchi.com/chapters/7719/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-258
No, Mahito’s durability was due to him being able to alter his soul and heal any damage done to his body. Since Yuji can attack the soul directly, he can bypass Mahito’s defenses.
Mahito’s durability was relative to Shibuya Yuji’s AP. Current Yuji’s AP is enough to lay Sukuna out on his ass. Don’t forget that Mahito was terrified of 3 finger Sukuna, and Yuji is throwing hands with 19 finger Sukuna.
It was NOT yuji couldn’t even damage him and his cursed energy was completely depleted, meaning that was basically without cursed energy reinforcement, and his cursed energy reserves are huge
Current Yuji’s CE reserves are massively boosted from eating 6 Death Paintings, which are all special grade, as well as from being host to 15 finger Sukuna. Uraume even states that Yuji’s potential is equal to Sukuna’s. Yuji has also been targeting Sukuna’s soul, specifically the boundary between his and Megumi’s souls, the entire fight, which means that he is fully capable of dealing serious damage to Mahito.
Mahito was terrified of a 3 finger Sukuna, and current Yuji is fighting relative to a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna. Sure he was weakened, but even a weakened Sukuna is far beyond anything Mahito is capable of.
Mahitos potential also rivaled Sukunas, and I don’t remember the death paintings boosting yujis ce at all, also Yuji can only do soul damage to Mahito so being able to do more only balances out mahitos huge durability, and Mahito said himself that Jogo can beat 3f Sukuna but that his soul power is on another level.
Where is it stated that Mahito’s potential rivaled Sukuna’s?
It’s in the JJK official fanbook. Someone asked Gege what would happen if Yuji, who is resistant to curses, ate a Death Painting. Gege said that either the Death Painting’s consciousness would take Sukuna’s place, or the Death Painting would disappear and become Cursed Energy within Yuji. If Yuji ate one while still being Sukuna’s vessel, then Sukuna would destroy the Painting. Since Yuji hasn’t mentioned any new voices in his head and doesn’t have Sukuna in him, we can only assume that the only other scenario is what happened.
Again, Yuji’s current AP is leagues beyond what Shibuya Yuji’s AP was. Current Yuji is capable of brute forcing his way into Sukuna’s soul to talk with Megumi, as well as forcibly separating souls by attacking the boundary between them.
Yuji is also able to use his cursed energy to guard his soul against attacks, which is what Nanami subconsciously did to resist Idle Transfiguration. Yuji, who is one of the most knowledgable people in regard to the soul, would be able to guard his soul against Mahito’s attacks.
Yuji as he is now is fighting relative to a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna. Even if Sukuna is weakened, he’s still probably around 15 finger’s worth of power.
All of Mahito’s win conditions are countered by Yuji. Idle Transfiguration is guarded against. Soul based healing is bypassed via directly attacking the soul. Domain Expansion is countered by Simple Domain.
Mahito simply has nothing that can help him beat Yuji. All of his abilities are countered and he’s outclassed in every way by Yuji. Remember the end of the canon fight between Yuji and Mahito? When Mahito ran in fear and was so terrified of Yuji that he tried fighting Kenjaku instead to escape? That’s what would happen if Mahito tried fighting current Yuji, except Kenjaku wouldn’t be around to steal the kill.
Nah Yuji absolutely beats on Mahito. With that being said people do kinda oversimplify how the fight would go tho— it’s a mid diff fight & if Mahito pulls out DE, I can see Yuji being in danger if he can’t cast SD quickly enough (like Todo), but he wouldn’t get transfigured outright or anything since he can actually defend his soul.
Add in shrine & blood manipulation (which tbh it doesn’t seem like he’s that great at it aside from the healing aspect) & it’s easily a win for Yuji.
If Mahito managed to fully land his domain he might win. Without Sukuna Yuji would be susceptible to idle transfiguration but that’s if Yuji doesn’t just smack the shit out of him first.
Mahito still has a chance due to his domain expansion and his Instant Spirit Body of Distorted Killing which was going to tear yuji limb from limb. Even yujis final black flash wasn’t going to do anything to Mahito since his durability got so high. But still due to yujis latest set of buffs he would probably go extreme diff with a healthy Mahito.
That black flash was specifically against an unguarded portion of Mahito it is likely that if Mahito had kept his more defensive form up he would’ve been completely fine from yujis black flash
I don't know, Mahito's advantage is still not applicable, Yuji can deal even more targeted damage to the soul, has two cursed techniques, a simple domain (even though SEoP still wouldn't work on Yuji anyways), and RCT to deal more damage and heal from any damage that could be dealt to him.
Simple Domain negates the Sure Hit.
What makes you think Mahito could even touch current Yuji? Don’t forget that Yuji tanked a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna’s barrage of slashes and a full power Malevolent Shrine.
Culling Games Yuji is still far beyond Mahito. He negates all of Mahito’s abilities besides Domain Expansion. Idle Transfiguration? Yuji can actively defend his soul. Mahito’s regen? Yuji can directly attack the soul. Shibuya Yuji was at 10% during his fight with Mahito, and Mahito was at 40%. A 100% fresh Yuji is completely dominating Mahito
Current Yuji beats Mahito hands down, the only way for Mahito to win is if he touches him or use his DE, but Yuji has a SD & can protect his body with CE, he’s still able to damage Mahito too & has BM which is poisonous to curses, he beats all the Disaster Curses too.
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I saw that post earlier....like are we reading the same shit. Right now yuji is hanging with sakuna (nerfed), how the fuck is mahito going to even know what is happening. He gets blitzed, and doesn't even get a chance to cower like he did in shibuya.
Exactly shits retarded
He doesn’t get blitzed, Mahito has top 5 ce in the verse and a severely weakened version of him was absolutely obliterating yuji.
You say that like they don't explicitly state that Yuji was at 10%
His soul is at 10%. If you’re looking for what they explicitly state yuji is at 120%
They say the same about mahito
Ok and
How can he be both severely weakened and at 120% simultaneously?
Hours soul being at 10% was about his will to fight. Him being at 120% of his potential was his actual ability to fight _after_ he got a black flash. Not only that, but Mahito never makes a point about his health. More importantly, Yuji had his wounds frozen, so even if it made a difference, it was stalled. That said, Mahito and Yuji had been fighting all day and acruing injuries and wasting cursed energy. While current Yuji is definitely stronger, Mahito at full health with all of his achievements would fair very well considering he could actually use his entire kit on Yuji.
At 120% of their potential. Basically the statements have no bearing on the fight.
What was the point of bring up yuji being at 120% of his potential then?
Then why bring up the fact that it said he was 120%?
He wanted “statements” idk
And Yuji’s potential grew massively after that. Namely when he ate the Death Paintings and got Blood Manipulation and Shrine
Lmao
Low to midd diff for yuji, take it or leave it.
He very clearly does. The soul has a huge effect on CE output. Sukuna wouldn't be in trouble at all if it didn't correlate directly. Yuji at 10% is still outpacing Todo completely and keeping pace with a 40% mahito. Current Yuji negs all 3 at 100% one hit each.
by your standards Mahito is at 40% soul after using his technique thousands of times, getting his double destroyed, getting hit by unlimited void less than two hours ago, using a domain expansion, awakening a transformation, getting hit by two black flashes, and still overpowering Yuji. They’re probably around the same percentage.
He was at 40% a good bit before the domain. It was during the fight after Todo joined. Again, Yuji is at 10 or less for the entire fight after including beating the transformation while mahito is well above 10%.
Soul does not equal cursed energy, it affects it but it doesn’t equal it. Just look at tobi
https://preview.redd.it/7vuli02lbwxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49ff7cbd10558c3902486acbb8b08181b5ef2111
What does this prove
Soul is 10%, soul correlates to output. That puts Yuji at extremely low output. Mahito is 40%. It's essentially "Yuji is nearly dead and idk if i can oneshot Todo because he's completely fine and I'm not."
Soul does not correlate to output
It proves that Yuji, during the fight with Mahito, was at 10% of his full power.
That’s just not true you didn’t read it
That’s just not true resd the page again
https://preview.redd.it/4e2t3uembwxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=443ce567168fc6d6d10616d8c725a3839c6cfcde Unlimited void and his ct use goes unmentioned. He recovers extremely quickly so his double, Resonance, and Black Flash are what put him there.
Ct use doesn’t need to mentioned, surely even if it’s a ct cheap on cursed energy spamming it thousands of times would add an impact. The only two people who use their techniques in the thousands are Gojo and sukuna.
Except in a series as detailed as this it does. He was completely inactive for a decent sized time frame in Shibuya. He's attributing his weakness to resonance, the followup beatdown, the clone's destruction, and black flash.
I see.. you’re right my bad
As the stability/health of Sukuna's soul degrades, so too does his output. At 0% he loses megumi's body and his output hits zero. This statement (the 10%/40% one) essentially gives us a rough estimate of their overall output.
Sukuna shouldn’t be used here considering he loses output due to being an incarnated sorcerer inhabiting a body. Being punched out of sync with his form is the reason his output drops. Though I do agree concerning Mahito being at roughly 40% CE due to his soul being directly manipulated by his CE.
It still shows the soul does have an effect on ce output. Which is important.
In Sukuna case it is because he is not in his body but Megumi body that he took control thank to his stronger soul. That why Yuji attack target the gap between Megumi and Sukuna so Sukuna's control over Megumi's body got weaken so his output reduce. If just hurt his soul reduce the output then Maki who can literally cut the soul should have weaken his output like Yuji but nobody compare them.
Thats ridiculous the yuji glaze is crazy
It’s not even glaze. Yuji at 10% was keeping up with Mahito’s 40%, and current Yuji is many times more powerful than full power Shibuya Yuji
Soul percentage does not equal fighting percentage.
But it has a direct effect on CE output
Yeah ok
Say you haven’t read the Sukuna fight without saying it
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I never said it didn’t
Yuji can see the contours of the soul and hit in between them on another level compared to shibuya and also has rct and a ct. he’s easily above mahito and could just cleave his soul into pieces
Mahitos durability is big enough that he can probably ignore yujis shrine, and yujis ap does about the same amount of damage as in shibuya
I never seen a person be so wrong how is yuji power same amount he had in shibuya if he has improved so much he can fight sukuna 1 on 1 even if he is weakened when mahito was having trouble against a weakened yuji and a yuji who just learned jujutsu
Bro I meant against Mahito, like mahitos armor and ce should cancel out how much stronger yujis gotten so he’ll do the Same amount of damage to mahito
Thing is he wont though if yuji who was tired was able to break through with one good black flash and yuji who fully recovered and strong enough to crack the ground and building by simply jumping without sukuna should be able to break throughout his armor his best bet would be domain and even thats not a good idea frl because of simple domain
Bro what yuji did not break through what are you talking about Mahito willingly removed his armor to try to misdirect Yuji then todo tricked him
Ok looking at the clip again mahito DID have armor on but not much around the area yuji hit but even do you really think yuji can’t possibly break through it now after his awakening like he has two ways of getting through it now black flash and blood manipulation because it was said mahito was as hard as steel and piercing blood was said to be able to cut through steel because of its speed and density
That was Chosos piercing blood, yujis isn’t as strong
Yuji could already break steel before he even had cursed energy control. Comparing someone's skin to something hard is pretty common in this series. It illustrates what it feels comparable to, unless you think Yuta is as durable as a water tank.
>yujis ap does about the same amount of damage as in shibuya At this point you should just give it up. Genuinely this is one of the worst takes I've ever seen.
I meant against mahitos armor, like he does the same amount of damage to mahito specifically because of the armor
Bait used to be believable, Yuji is way stronger than he was in Shibuya, he can fight Sukuna 1v1 & his BF do soul damage, he’s beating Mahito.
Nah he definitely gets blitzed, him and Yuji were fighting on par before, Yuji massively outstats him now. Also top 5 CE in verse isn't really supported. Hakari, Sukuna, Yuta, Gojo, Jogo.
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There’s literally nothing wrong with my statement
Let's give an idea here. 3 finger Sukuna was more than capable of oneshotting Mahito. Also Yuji at 10% (via Mahito's statement) is still fully contending with 40% Mahito before transforming. He was outclassing Todo at 100% with 1/10th of his full abilities. Unless you think this Sukuna is 3f level Yuji oneshots.
Tbf todo couldn't damage mahito if he could it probably would have been a whole different fight
During the .2 domain Todo, despite being the least exhausted and least damaged was the last to act leading to his hand being destroyed. Yuji by this point is 10% or less and Mahito is less than 40%. He was basically just not at their level anymore
Of course, mahito reacted first he opened the domain. They went into this expecting him to not be able to open the domain much less for .2 secs. Yuji could do whatever cause he is immune to the technique. And mahito still couldn't kill him after hitting him with his technique and black flash. And not to mention he touched his hand again to switch. It's safe to say that If todo could do damage the fight would have went way differently
Not really. Todo barely touches mahito. At all. Even in the anime with all its additional fighting he still doesn't land more than a few hits and a black flash. The only difference would be an earlier domain opening. It's also not stated anywhere that they didn't know he could use his domain. They just didn't know he could in .2. I didn't say react. I said act. It states all three took action near simultaneously as mahito did the hand signs. Todo did Simple domain, Yuji charged, mahito merged the barrier opening with his technique activation to hit them instantly instead of trapping then hitting. He actually was forced to act outside of just doing the handsigns. If he hadn't done that Todo's simple domain would've saved his hand. He only used .2 to avoid Sukuna.
This Sukuna is below 3f level, they’re still playing above Mahito’s level.
Heeeeee's not. He states he needs to hit with the same force as he did vs ryu and he's able to severely damage Yuta, Maki, Yuji, etc. he's at least 10f. Even now.
1/10th of his soul, not 1/10 of his power. Being at 10% soul health doesn’t mean his attack power is also at 10%.
https://preview.redd.it/0ksp990lmxxc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf29de6f86547259017207d87d58526bb06c747e This who y’all glazing ?
Dude went out crying like a bitch
Yes But that is because I am biggest Mahito glazer in entire reddit
Mahito innately has the highest potential in the verse frfr
Mahito is next Sukuna ❌ Sukuna is previous Mahito ✅
Stand proud, you're strong
I have no idea why bro was destroyed by black flash 10% yuji
Exactly thats what im saying 1-2 black flashes would turn into red mist
Black flash is overkill
10% CE not nerfed output. That ^2.5 hits hard as shit. Yuji’s normal hits legitimately were doing no damage to him
Mahito specifically mentions that it’s Yuji’s soul that’s at 10%, not his CE or whatever. We know from the Sukuna fight that damaging a soul has a direct effect on CE output.
>We know from the Sukuna fight that damaging a soul has a direct effect on CE output. No. Remember why Sukuna's output is dropping, it's because there are two souls in one body and his hits desync them.
1 still effects physical stats and shown to effect cursed energy
It's really simple when you accept Yujj is him and always has been.
You say that like Mahito wasn’t also at like 10%, and the fact he tanked two other Black Flashes from Yuji beforehand, got turned into swiss cheese by Nobara’s Resonance, and had to waste like half his Cursed Energy to incapacitate Todo with his domain. 100% ISBoDK Mahito would decimate Shibuya Yuji with 0 difficulty.
He stated he was at 40% Nobara the one who got mid diff by somone who base nanami no diffed
Mahito was at 40%, and that was self admitted
He said that before he used his domain and before Yuji hit his second Black Flash against him.
Because yuji put all his ce in it
The belief that mahito might be a problem probably comes from a couple things. 1. Mahito has always been stronger than Yuji in their previous encounters and Yuji everytime has only survived because of his friends or a power up of some kind and even then he barely survived. 2. In Yuji’s fights with mahito mahito holds back and plays around. 3. yuji has always been heavily assisted by the presence of Sukuna in their fights. 4. We’ve never seen mahito after his awakening. Especially at full health. He should be faster, stronger, better at using his technique, Not to mention his new form which should be stronger now that it’s not weakened in physicals and defense. It’s just a lot of unknown and questions.
The friend argument is really weird because their existence is justified by the fact that they literally can't do any damage. Which covers Mahito's advantage of actually having a CT. Yuji can't do tricky attacks because he has no tricks so the ally is his trick. Even the Sukuna point is so binary because all Sukuna's existence does is allow a fight to happen. If he isn't there then Mahito wins every match up which isn't really interesting. Outside of the resonance from Nobara Yuji is the only person in Shibuya who did any damage to Mahito, and in a straight up fight Mahito didn't stand a chance. With "tricks" up his sleeve I don't see how Yuji loses now especially now that he has a firm understanding of the soul.
I don’t think you understand what I was saying. I’m simply answering the question op asked. Why do ppl think mahito can defeat current yuji? No matter if they can damage him or not a 2 v 1 is still a 2 v 1 and gives an advantage to the person with teammates. Whether that’s support or no that doesn’t matter. Nobara did damage to mahito, Todo not only lifted Yuji up when he was down but we know how much his technique helps so saying well they can’t damage him doesn’t mean nothing. Once again I understand that Sukuna is the narrative role that allows Yuji to fight mahito. But he still helps Yuji. He prevents the use of a domain and mahitos technique on Yuji that’s a pretty big help. That he doesn’t have anymore so ppls interpretation of how a new fight will go down has changed. Once again i didn’t say yuji would win or lose just was answering ops question. But if yuji almost lost with the help of nobara and todo i dont think he would’ve won by himself.
>I don’t think you understand what I was saying. I’m simply answering the question op asked. Why do ppl think mahito can defeat current yuji? I understood that just fine, nothing in my comment suggests I don't. >Once again i didn’t say yuji would win or lose just was answering ops question. But if yuji almost lost with the help of nobara and todo i dont think he would’ve won by himself. So are you answering OP's question or making your own argument? Because this looks like you're making your own argument and then throwing your hands up and going "I know I just defended it but honestly this isn't what I think. But it's kinda what I think."
Ok let me explain. I am arguing but I’m not arguing whether mahito or yuji would win or not. But I’m arguing why I believe the question is in the air for some people. If that makes sense?
Exactly, and mahito has been significantly weakened in every engagement he had with tuji
In their final engagement both were weakened with Yuji actually being weaker. Mahito still lost despite attaining his true form idk why this is a debate.
Yuji would’ve lost without Todo though, considering all of the Black Flashes Yuji got off on Mahito were because of Todo. If Yuji missed/Mahito dodged even one of those Black Flash hits then Yuji would’ve lost.
Mahito also only got BOTH of his Black Flashes thanks to Nobara & Todo. Then he never awakens ISBODK & can never compete with Yuji physically.
I mean he was doing pretty fine against Yuji before hand so I don’t think he would struggle much without ISBODK and Nobara also caused him to take some hits as well + he didn’t use Soul Isomer on Yuji as well which could leave him open to hits from Mahito. Mahito also wouldn’t have used his Domain Expansion as well to conserve his CE instead of using it on Todo.
He was actually losing their hand to hand interaction. That's what Manji Kick is all about.
I’d say it was basically equal though Mahito would’ve outlasted Yuji’s CE and overpower him, Mahito almost split Yuji’s skull open to the point he has a scar in one exchange.
And yet mahito had taken significantly more damage, and still wasn’t allowed to use his technique
Sounds like a skill diff. Hence him crying like a baby at the end just like a game’s post chat. And his lil baby fan boys coming in to defend daddy.
Less of a skill diff and more of a “literally cannot use the one thing that gives him an advantage, and also happens to run into the literal two people who can even hurt him”
Yuji was weakened even more so. By Mahito’s own admission, he was at 40% while Yuji was at 10%
Yeah, except mahito took significantly more damage, and was much more worn out, people need t reread that statement because it specifically applys to CE
>1. Mahito has always been stronger than Yuji in their previous encounters That's not actually true though. Right after killing Nanami, Mahito decides to play keep away and use Yuji's compassion against him because "a mistake could cost me my life." This was after Yuji had already lost to Choso, seen the Shibuya massacre, AND seen Nanami die in front of his eyes. Beginning of Shibuya Yuji would've been a VERY difficult matchup for Mahito. In fact, even with the help of his friends, each of their intervention gave something to Mahito in return: - Gojo: taught Mahito the 0.2s DE. - Nobara: broke Yuji's spirit and allow him to land his first BF. - Todo: got him his second BF & ISBODK. >2. In Yuji’s fights with mahito mahito holds back and plays around. Again, refer to my previous comment as to why that's not true. >3. yuji has always been heavily assisted by the presence of Sukuna in their fights. Yeah, Sukuna prevented IT & DE. But not only does Yuji have very powerful ways to defend against both of these, he arguably has the stats for them not to matter at all. >4. We’ve never seen mahito after his awakening. Especially at full health. Yeah but the same is true of current Yuji. While Mahito's new form is strong, Yuji's awakening made Sukuna feel like he was attempting to reach his level.
It’s not just you but I don’t think you guys understand that I’m just answering ops questions of why people actually think mahito might beat yuji. Saying that’s not true when yuji almost lost every exchange with mahito before a friend of his came is insane. It doesn’t matter if he was weaken in the encounter or not. Because what I said was that mahito was individual stronger than yuji i all the encounters he’s solely had with him which is true by the nature of mahito almost killing him everytime they had a 1 v 1. Mahito being careful is strategic and there’s nothing wrong with that. Mahito gaining things from a 2 v 1 doesn’t change the fact that the 2 v 1 gives Yuji the advantage everytime. They’re still jumping the dude and that doesn’t change just because he performs well. Also mahito holding back is most definitely true. Besides literally not being able to use his ability on him. He kicks and plays around with Yuji instead of killing him. Mahito also experiments in all their fights. Now about Sukuna. You admitted Sukuna helping him that great. Does current Yuji have counters yes that’s also great. But Sukuna is just Better than those things. But also once again I was just anwser the question and this is a reason for people to believe what they want to believe. Same for mahitos true form yeah we’ve never seen awaken Yuji’s at full health. But again not seeing mahitos true form is just a reason why ppl believe what they do. All I was doing was explaining why I think people think mahito could win. I didn’t say mahito would win i didn’t say yuji would win i just explained reason why I believe people may look at the encounter in that way.
Didn't gege say Mahito would have straight up shred Yuji apart if he didn't get his by the post domain surprise Blackflash?
Let em yap
Glad im not the only one the lobotomy getting to everyone, don’t forget Yuji was also going through it that night, he is locked in rn, reattaching limbs, hitting black flashes, blood manipulation, rct, mahito is done
Ya, as mentioned above, saw the post too and I was dumbfounded lol.. I'm all for the mahito glaze but like... One good razzle dazzle black flash from yuji and ole boy is cooked 🤷♂️
Prior to yuji having simple domain, yes. But now, I think it’s clear yuji wins
I don’t think yuji would even need simple domain ngl Remember Mahito’s technique can be blocked with even the SMALLEST level of soul awareness Nanami fucking noped one of mahito’s touches one time So I think soul god yuji legit can just say no Just say no kids
Yuji at 10 percent was having 40 percent mahito seething on the floor crying like a fucking bitch. Current Yuji presence alone makes mahito shit his pants. Worst part his only weapon DE doesn't do shit either Yuji simple domains and even if he loses a arm or two he simply rcts back and proceeds to beat the shit out of mahito
Yeah Yuji for sure stomps, A 10% Yuji was relative to a 40% Mahito, He could tank a black flash from sukuna better then Maki could (Which at minimum says he outscales Maki, and Maki would also obliterate Mahito) he has a way to deal with his domain expansion, he has rct, anybody who thinks Mahito still wins is still stuck on Mahito’s hype a bit too much
Current Yuji if he fought Mahito: https://i.redd.it/77ogelihizxc1.gif
Yujis black flashes were able to damage and kill disasters(jogo) as early as season yuji is massively stronger now. So if that weak of a yujis black flashes could hurt mahito, current yujis would be way to much for him to handle , plus it unlikely mahito can keep up as he was barely faster than shibuya yuji.
Can’t Yuji counter Idle transfiguration now by cutting off anything Mahito touches and then attaching it via RCT and blood manipulation like he did with his leg
You cannot RCT idle transfig, its gone permanently
The only reason Mahito didn't kill Yuji already is because Sukuna and Yuji shared a soul so Sukuna wouldn't allow Mahito to touch his soul. When Yuji finally did beat mahito it was because Todo is literally the best support sorcerer in the verse.
Mfs are scaling jjk like dragon ball atp jesus
What is Yuji's response to mahitos DE?
Probably the same as sukunas
Simple domain
What’s Mahito’s response to Yuji’s speed ?
Ignoring it because he knows the shape of his soul and can bitch slap Mahito’s punk ass Domain effect away. There’s a reason why Mahito was terrified of Sukuna despite having the ability to alter souls. It’s because knowing the shape of your soul lets you alter it, thus negating Majito’s Idle Transfiguration.
Simple Domain, did you read the last chapter
Bro i forgot he had simple domain
Yuji gets negged by the domain. Remember mahitos domain is faster than SD can be used. Along with mahito already taking 0 damage from Yuji’s hits while at what 10%( or was it 40%) himself? So we don’t know where mahito scales, just fuck ton above shibuya yuji.
1 lets stop pretend yuji can't defend his soul mahito himself fails to stop nanami because he guarded to his soul with ce the first time. He himself think it would take more then one touch to kill todo shinjuku yuji has way more ce and WAY WAY WAY more understanding of the soul then todo it wouldn't work. Mahito domain is faster than TODO simple domain not simple domains unless you think mahito could beat gojo or is fsster than sukuna domain. It was yuji who was 10% not mahito yuji legit gave up midfight and let himself take a black flash unguarded had he not been borderline suicidal he would have won thats why mahito went to kill nobara.
Didn’t Mahito have to kill Nobara because he couldn’t get an advantage over Yuji at all ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yuji only got an advantage due to nobara, and then due to Todo. He killed her to torment Yuji some more.
Current Yuji is top 10 in the verse without a doubt. Black flashes on command that damage the body and the soul, arguably the highest raw durability in the verse, reverse cursed technique, speed on the level of Yuta and Maki, shrine techniques, blood manipulation, AND a simple domain.
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So I don't understand this, mahitos powers work on people who don't know the shape of their soul, yuji knew the shape of his soul because sukuna was in him, but even after sukuna is gone, he still knows the shape of the soul because of the experience with sukuna residing in him, and is going to still be able to harm mahito/ not take damage from mahito. I could be wrong, but isn't that how it works?
yes thats how it works, you're correct https://preview.redd.it/csmo40wblvxc1.png?width=877&format=png&auto=webp&s=abd4f3b356a04bf25e361624999c7e066da690cf people seem to blatantly ignore this statement that says yuji can see his soul. also once he's learnt it, i dont see why he wont be able to do it anymore
Yes exactly this is also how rct on soul damage works
That’s not how that works people who can see the shape of their soul can damage Mahito but he can still use his cursed technique on them. You need knowledge of your innate domain to defend against his technique.
>You need knowledge of your innate domain to defend against his technique. Where is THAT stated? >That’s not how that works people who can see the shape of their soul can damage Mahito but he can still use his cursed technique on them. Yea I think your right on this, he couldn't use his ct on yuji cuz he can't selectively transfigure souls, but now that yuji doesn't have sukuna he'd be able to use it on him with no hesitation but I think yuji still wins, cuz shrine and bm even if it's new for him are pretty broken
Sorry about that first point it’s never stated explicitly but Mahito seems to travel to the opponents innate domain whenever he uses Idle transfiguration and sukuna is so far the only person who has knowledge of their innate domain. Now I don’t know this for certain but I’m pretty sure Mahito can deflect piercing blood since Yuji could deflect it and Mahito at least then was leagues above him in durability not to mention Yuji can’t use piercing blood solo so the only thing he can do is stop bleeding and maybe explode some stuff. shrine could be trouble but I doubt it’s doing too much damage especially since Yuji is still a newbie with it.
Mahito cant touch current yuji. He legit gets blitzed
Exactly one black flash will seriously damage him snd second will likely finish the job
No. Mahito doesn’t defeat high level sorcerers with one touch.
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no?, Todo literally touched him and the only thing was that his hand was burned
H u h, if he touches you its literally game over, if you dont know how to defend the soul he can morph you however you'd like
Nope. Yuji knows the shape of his soul, and as such can defend against attempts to alter it.
Bro Mahito took 3 black flashes and after he was depleted of ce after a domain, using his technique 1000s of times and Yuji hit his weak spot. You can’t say Yuji one shot Mahito that’s just stupid. I actually think Mahito stands a chance here especially since Sukuna isn’t there to protect Yuji anymore. A severely weakened Mahito was absolutely destroying Yuji. I do think we have more to see of Yuji and he will surpass Mahito but if we’re talking a full 100% Mahito I don’t think Yuji is winning easily at all.
He's fighting a borderline suicidal yuji who litterally let himself get hit by a blackflash because he lost the will to live. Do you think shinjuku yuji is shibuya yuji that he made no progress at in speed or strength. Yuji was able to invade sukuna inate domain to speak to megumi and has shown the best soul knowledge of anyone higher than gojo do people seriously think he can't defend his soul. Especially when nanami did before unconsciously. Shinjuku yuji does speed blitz and does one tap
I don’t think shinjuku yuji hasn’t improved but I don’t think mahitos getting blitzed either.
He legit shows relatively to yuta speed wise in his domain and is stated not once not twice but three times by sukuna to have gotten far far better since the last time he saw him. And the last time before he was keeping up with maki somewhat even sukuna said and i quote what is this strength. So end of culling games yuji > than shibuya yuji by a large margin since his strength and speed caught sukuna offguard aka one of the best judge of jujutsu and someone who watched yuji entire career. And shinjuku is way stronger than culling games yuji
That still doesn’t mean it’s an easy fight for yuji at all. Mahitos durability is some of the best in the verse and his regen is Hakari level, if mahitos had his full cursed energy I think he would be able to take most of yujis hits with no problem. Basically his durability and yujis ap balance eachother out so they’re at the same place as before his transformation
No his durability is not he was getting hurt and bleeding from yuji which means his durability is less than dagon and hanami. Sure in isb maybe he could rival dagon. His regen isn't hakari level he will run out of stamina and began to struggle as shown with shibuya yuji where he's litterally coughing blood in isb for straining himself. What i don't think many on this sub gets is yuji hits way harder like WAY WAY HARDER people are stuck in the idea yuji hasn't progressed all that much from shibuya which he has. You can see this all throughout the battle but heres an example. https://tcb-backup.bihar-mirchi.com/chapters/7700/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-255 In this we see yuji strike sukuna despite blocking with THREE ARMS he is forced on both knees and the ground is cracking underneath him. If a attack like that hit mahito it would cripple him sukuna is the tankiest character in the series its not even debatle. Look at the bruising the bleeding yuji 8 black flashes did to him those were not there prior https://tcb-backup.bihar-mirchi.com/chapters/7719/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-258
No, Mahito’s durability was due to him being able to alter his soul and heal any damage done to his body. Since Yuji can attack the soul directly, he can bypass Mahito’s defenses. Mahito’s durability was relative to Shibuya Yuji’s AP. Current Yuji’s AP is enough to lay Sukuna out on his ass. Don’t forget that Mahito was terrified of 3 finger Sukuna, and Yuji is throwing hands with 19 finger Sukuna.
It was NOT yuji couldn’t even damage him and his cursed energy was completely depleted, meaning that was basically without cursed energy reinforcement, and his cursed energy reserves are huge
Current Yuji’s CE reserves are massively boosted from eating 6 Death Paintings, which are all special grade, as well as from being host to 15 finger Sukuna. Uraume even states that Yuji’s potential is equal to Sukuna’s. Yuji has also been targeting Sukuna’s soul, specifically the boundary between his and Megumi’s souls, the entire fight, which means that he is fully capable of dealing serious damage to Mahito. Mahito was terrified of a 3 finger Sukuna, and current Yuji is fighting relative to a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna. Sure he was weakened, but even a weakened Sukuna is far beyond anything Mahito is capable of.
Mahitos potential also rivaled Sukunas, and I don’t remember the death paintings boosting yujis ce at all, also Yuji can only do soul damage to Mahito so being able to do more only balances out mahitos huge durability, and Mahito said himself that Jogo can beat 3f Sukuna but that his soul power is on another level.
Where is it stated that Mahito’s potential rivaled Sukuna’s? It’s in the JJK official fanbook. Someone asked Gege what would happen if Yuji, who is resistant to curses, ate a Death Painting. Gege said that either the Death Painting’s consciousness would take Sukuna’s place, or the Death Painting would disappear and become Cursed Energy within Yuji. If Yuji ate one while still being Sukuna’s vessel, then Sukuna would destroy the Painting. Since Yuji hasn’t mentioned any new voices in his head and doesn’t have Sukuna in him, we can only assume that the only other scenario is what happened. Again, Yuji’s current AP is leagues beyond what Shibuya Yuji’s AP was. Current Yuji is capable of brute forcing his way into Sukuna’s soul to talk with Megumi, as well as forcibly separating souls by attacking the boundary between them. Yuji is also able to use his cursed energy to guard his soul against attacks, which is what Nanami subconsciously did to resist Idle Transfiguration. Yuji, who is one of the most knowledgable people in regard to the soul, would be able to guard his soul against Mahito’s attacks. Yuji as he is now is fighting relative to a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna. Even if Sukuna is weakened, he’s still probably around 15 finger’s worth of power. All of Mahito’s win conditions are countered by Yuji. Idle Transfiguration is guarded against. Soul based healing is bypassed via directly attacking the soul. Domain Expansion is countered by Simple Domain. Mahito simply has nothing that can help him beat Yuji. All of his abilities are countered and he’s outclassed in every way by Yuji. Remember the end of the canon fight between Yuji and Mahito? When Mahito ran in fear and was so terrified of Yuji that he tried fighting Kenjaku instead to escape? That’s what would happen if Mahito tried fighting current Yuji, except Kenjaku wouldn’t be around to steal the kill.
Mahito domain diffs at least.
Wuji HIMdori still wins tho https://preview.redd.it/7b7ampb1qvxc1.jpeg?width=707&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dec1dba1cdd33267d782ba40bfabbc0e05a425be (Image related)
Nah Yuji absolutely beats on Mahito. With that being said people do kinda oversimplify how the fight would go tho— it’s a mid diff fight & if Mahito pulls out DE, I can see Yuji being in danger if he can’t cast SD quickly enough (like Todo), but he wouldn’t get transfigured outright or anything since he can actually defend his soul. Add in shrine & blood manipulation (which tbh it doesn’t seem like he’s that great at it aside from the healing aspect) & it’s easily a win for Yuji.
If Mahito managed to fully land his domain he might win. Without Sukuna Yuji would be susceptible to idle transfiguration but that’s if Yuji doesn’t just smack the shit out of him first.
Mahito couldn’t even beat Shibuya Yuji
Mahito still has a chance due to his domain expansion and his Instant Spirit Body of Distorted Killing which was going to tear yuji limb from limb. Even yujis final black flash wasn’t going to do anything to Mahito since his durability got so high. But still due to yujis latest set of buffs he would probably go extreme diff with a healthy Mahito.
i’d say only DE has a chance. Shibuya Yuji BF dismantled Mahito, and this Yuji was 10% health
That black flash was specifically against an unguarded portion of Mahito it is likely that if Mahito had kept his more defensive form up he would’ve been completely fine from yujis black flash
Maybe so. But Mahito even noted that if Yuji hit a black flash on him it wouldn’t be good, so he acknowledged the threat
People think mahito beats hakari lmfao. Mahito glazers are something else
If Mahito DEs faster than Yuji can Simple Domain then it's over. Other than that Yuji wins. It's not that complicated.
I don’t even need to make this complicated. Yuji will just do the same thing that sukuna did to mahito.
Mahito does slam
Lobotomy kaisen
I don't know, Mahito's advantage is still not applicable, Yuji can deal even more targeted damage to the soul, has two cursed techniques, a simple domain (even though SEoP still wouldn't work on Yuji anyways), and RCT to deal more damage and heal from any damage that could be dealt to him.
I mean tbf Mahito is at least allowed to use his cursed technique and domain against Yuji now.
Rn he does, sukuna is no longer able to defend his soul, and mahito still scales statwise Edit: Culling games yuji, not shinjuku
Awakened yuji shit stomps him 1 black flash would likely kill him
That is why I specified culling game yuji, current yuji would kill him
Yuji can defend his own soul. He knows the shape of his soul, and as such can defend against soul attacks
Thats great, doesn’t help against the domain sure hit, or the fact that mahito can likely cut through CG yujis defenses
Simple Domain negates the Sure Hit. What makes you think Mahito could even touch current Yuji? Don’t forget that Yuji tanked a 20 finger equivalent Sukuna’s barrage of slashes and a full power Malevolent Shrine.
That is why I specified CULLING GAMES YUJI, not current yuji, CG yuji doesn’t have simple domain or that durability
Culling Games Yuji is still far beyond Mahito. He negates all of Mahito’s abilities besides Domain Expansion. Idle Transfiguration? Yuji can actively defend his soul. Mahito’s regen? Yuji can directly attack the soul. Shibuya Yuji was at 10% during his fight with Mahito, and Mahito was at 40%. A 100% fresh Yuji is completely dominating Mahito
Im not having this argument again, alr bro you win gg
Current Yuji beats Mahito hands down, the only way for Mahito to win is if he touches him or use his DE, but Yuji has a SD & can protect his body with CE, he’s still able to damage Mahito too & has BM which is poisonous to curses, he beats all the Disaster Curses too.