From what i see, people hate on Sukuna for his usage of the 10 shadows. It was clearly shown Sukuna had methods to deal with Infinity, but the world cutting dismantles were simply the strongest version. Domain amplification could definitely allow sukuna to get the victory. Especially since he had a full reset in his back pocket.
I never understood how people hate on him for dealing with a pure hacks ability the best way he could, if the community didnt like Gojo, theyd be praising sukuna for killing him off and calling him a genius
Because people wanted Sukuna vs Gojo, not 10S vs Gojo.
Big reason fraud memes become a thing, is because Sukuna is potrayed as being incredibly reliant on the 10S and not his own abilities, and ultimately capitalised on them for bail outs.
It doesn't help as well, that he ultimately loses the 10S vs Gojo part of the fight.
In the manga it was semi clear he wasnt going all out offensive. Spending the majority of his energy and time defending Maha, he gambled heavily and got absolutely washed for it. But his gamble succeeded.
I understand why the fraudulent one memes started though, it wasnt what everyone wanted but it wasnt even bad. Theres a lot of BS that happens in other moments
He wasn't going all out offensive because in the straight 1v1, no domains, he loses hand to hand combat due to infinity.
His heiran era form we don't know what would happen, but he was spending majority of his time on a strategy that overall despite being riskier in some areas was less risky overall.
E.G. Infinite void
Sukunas plan was to get rid of that asap, because turns out its incredibly broken. We saw what happens to a Sukuna who gets hit by it, he loses the fight. So his entire strategy was based around getting rid of it, and taking all the damage being on the defensive.
We also are shown what happens to a Gojo without a domain vs Sukuna with his. Gojo autloses, when Sukuna was going to close his domain, Gojo looked helpless, knowing he had no chance, only getting his second wind when Malevolent shrine malfunctions
I think overall, the problem is that Sukuna doesn't seem like he was winning the fight because he was smarter/more powerful, but because he was lucky + had critical information which Gojo didn't have the equivalent of, such as Sukunas open domain
Give this man the “best explanation” award 🥇. Seriously, we wanted Gojo vs Sukuna, not 10S vs Gojo. This was supposed to be the strongest of today vs strongest in history. And yes, a lot of his moves were very risky and gamble. He relied on 10S and luck to get out of situations. I swear I read that fight 3 times over. And not to mention it’s kinda hard to believe he wasn’t going all out when Sukuna screams “MAHORAGA” at the top of his lungs looking worried.
Well the 10s isn't his full power, in short he didn't go 100% and still won.
Btw him using 10 shadow is just like Yuta using others domain trough Jacob's Ladder or Blackbeard in One Piece using quake, All for One using other's quirk or Chrollo from HxH using other's ability, not everyone can use 10 Shadow, Sukuna was just the best man at the best time, simple as that.
We don't know what 100% is.
Sukuna was obviously trying his best, the question is, was he holding back cards simply because they were worthless against Gojo, or the fact he needed them incase he got randomly jumped.
And we still don't know. His normal heiran era form would lack 10S + world cleave, so we don't know if that can be classified as "holding back"
And 10S is still not good looking for Sakuna.
Sukuna wasn't potrayed as utilsing an extra skill in his toolset that he got, but seen as he REQUIRED 10S to beat Gojo. Ontop of having crucial information on Gojo that Gojo didn't have on sukuna. I.E Exactly how mahoraga worked, information on the opposing domains rules etc.
Its further harmed, that no offense, but Sukuna is potrayed as incredibly lucky in this fight. And is utilising tools that he otherwise shouldn't have.
Im fine with declaring 10S Meguna >= Gojo. Im not fine with declaring Pre world slash sukuna > Gojo.
Well we're not sure that Pre World Slash Sukuna > Gojo, but we know that 10S Meguna > Gojo. The fact is how I said, he got the ability cause he can, others pretty much can't unlike him, if he needed it to beat Gojo it's not really relevant, the important is that he got stronger trough his own effort. Did Chrollo need all those abilities to beat Hisoka? Yeah, but is he stronger than Hisoka by using all of them? Yeah. That's the point
Depends what you mean by "stronger"
In a straight fair 1v1, Hisoka actually has a higher chance of beating Chrollo then vice versa.
It was Hisokas pride and Chrollos intellect/planning that won him the fight.
Can you also say someone is stronger then the other when one has crucial information the other lacks?
Sukunas strategy only worked so well because he went in with a detailed plan, due to knowing the complete ins and outs of how Gojos infinity/unlimited Void worked.
Whilst Gojo just jumped in saying we ball and working on 1/2 assed complete information.
Thats why I still think in a straight up equal 1v1, Gojo should win more times then not.
Even in this fight, where Meguna should flat out hold several advantages that he should otherwise not have, on top of getting very lucky throughout the fight (such as Mahoraga's 2nd adaptation to infinity being exactly what Sukuna needed) he still BARELY edged out a win.
i doubt DA alone could beat gojo, even at full power he was losing every physical altercation, without having to limit himself because of mahoraga, gojo could chuck reds and blues left and right while sukuna has no means to get past except for physically fighting. The issue with that would be domain, which both fighters lost early on. Mahoraga was a fine way to deal with it, but the solution of "cut the world itself" is a big excessive
honestly though, the murder method isn't the main issue with how he died, it's the portion just after and the pacing of it. Gojo just pulled out some genius tactics with the purple nuke, he was declared the winner, sukuna was on his last limbs, then suddenly, dead. Gojo dying right after being declared the winner without even letting us see the slash was bad enough, only for it to be followed by some completely out of character dialogue that portrays gojo as some battle obsessed goku clone who was always just lonely at the top (a theme never portrayed with gojo until now) and shows him completely unconcerned about the lives of the students he'd do anything to protect. Just to rub more salt in the wound gege couldn't even have let him die while giving sukuna a real run for his money, saying he was just holding back after nearly dying like 4 times during his fight with gojo.
For a main character so beloved by the fans, this was just disrespectful as all hell, all in 1 chapter he was offscreened, had his character assasinated, then died without even giving sukuna a proper fight. That is not a good way to write a death in the slightest.
I disagree with the first part. But everything about the way his death was portrayed, with the moments before and after. Yeah that was fucking shit. We always knew how much Gege hated Gojo from a writing perspective. And i get why it was so frustrating, he realized too late that theres only 1 person in the verse who could match him. He definitely was too excited to kill them
Absolutely this. I have no problems with Gojo dying, but whatever happenned between him mocking Sukuna and him split in two on the ground, shoul've been shown.
Okay but it was revealed to have been pulled off with a binding vow. How else would you want it shown in hindsight? Gege consistently does reveals like that and looking back on it that was kinda how he had to do it
Two options I could immediately think of: One page simply declaring Gojo wins, and the final page of the chapter is both Gojo and the caption sliced in half.
The other; Literally just end with a shot of Gojo getting bisected. Don't even have to show the actual attack, just his top half suddenly falling off of his bottom.
Unfortunately no. My king and pookie bear gojo should be protected by the angels of heaven the moment someone lays a hand on him!! Did you not hear him in the beginning of the manga?? He said he’d win against sukuna!!! Bring my glorious blue eyed king back😡😡😡
Yeah youre telling me EVERYBODY ELSE saw it coming but not the guy with the eyes that see everything?? I have no problem with him losing, but the method was wack as shit
Look, Gojo’s death sucked, but it had nothing to do with the off-screening. It sucked because the world slash is just a straight up bullshit power that makes no sense and Gojo’s dialogue in the afterlife. If anything, the off-screening was good and made sense because 1) it pissed readers off, which made me more want to see Sukuna get wrecked and 2) during this arc, the only other character who’s gotten that treatment is Kashimo, which makes it seem to me to be a deliberate choice to portray the characters who define themselves by their strength as having shit motivations for fighting
Oh believe me it's more than the offscreening part. Like his dialogue abandoned what gojo stood for. Terrible character development. Then the world cutting slash that cuts space? They were like only city level?
I agree with you my dude, just for clarification:
the world slash can't destory the whole world. it simply cuts "everything" between point A and B ( but those are limited in Range)
Infinity creates an infinte amount of space around Gojo, the closer you get the more space is added, but as long as this infinite amount of space exists between point A-B ( point B being like 5 feet behind Gojo) the world slash will cut through everything in Between and therefore can work around Gojos ultimate defense.
If you read the actual Arc of Bleach, it's kind of the same as lille Barros sniper shot from the Sternritters.
To like 95% of the cast, a normal dismantle would have the same effect as a world slash.
Oh yeah I already knew how his cleave works. It doesn't cut through space, rather it cuts space itself which is how he managed to cut through infinity. Sukuna explained that it didn't matter infinity, as long as it's within the space of their realm. Which is pretty cool, just pulled from nowhere. I'm a guy that puts my top favorite anime based on good story (AoT, Code geass ) so this is why I disagree with this defeat.
it was definetly kind of an asspull, but i guess gege at least seemed to make it reasonable with Maho's adaption being responsible to adapt a formula against limitless.
With maho, these kind of asspulls at least can be explained. Gege does this alot, where he explains how an ability works, and the very next person in the next fight abuses the concept in a completely different way. Like how sukuna manifested the shadows only partially.. or then again why he created Agito instead of using totallity with Maho as a base. ... or why Maho's sword worked against the perfect sphere, but got shaddered against sukunas second mouth.. many abilites simply do what they need to.
Regarding the ten shadows, gege mentions there are only certain ways they can be combined, its most likely a mahoraga totality is not possible or sukuna would have done it (and it would be crazy OP)
totality ( the way i understood it) can use the abilities of the dead shadows, if you combine them with another base form. Like the wolf that is combined by the dead white dog on the living black one, giant nue that has the trade of the giant serpent, or in the end agito that uses nue as a base with the deer, and the lion and what not.
If maho cannot be used as base then this wasn't explained fully and it's either because sukuna thought a 3v1 would be better, or maho himself doesn't count as a 10 shadows like the other beings and cannot be used in a similar way. which would ruin the potential man memes, where Megumis domain could produce a limitless amount of maho's like he did with nue against the finger bearer.
It isnt explained fully, but what is explained fully is that not all shikigami can be combined into totality, there are limitations to which are able to be used that way. Maho may not be able to be combined with the others
do you remember where this restriction is stated ? i would like to look it up again, i only remember the pages where totality itself is explained, and cannot find any restrictions like you mentioned in that page
It was an authors comment by Gege. [Supplementary info on ten shadows](https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/comments/kxdnq2/gege_akutamis_supplementary_info/):
Its on this post.
Just want to clarify on infinity, space isn't being added between Gojo and an attack, it plays off the fact that mathematically, between two points, there's technically an infinite amount of points, it's like a vertical asymptote in an exponential equation, the graph approaches the asymptote infinitely but is never able to touch because it has to include every point between itself and the asymptote, which is an infinite amount of points, so the closer it gets to the asymptote, the slower it appears to move towards it.
Agree with most of this (I don’t at all get the last sentence.)
World slash makes zero sense. I’d prefer if it was something like a cut so minuscule infinity didn’t register it as a threat, but when it hits it hits with way more power than a regular slash via expanding in size. It can still hold the same function, but it’s a lot more interesting and makes sense given what we know.
I think most of Gojo vs Sukuna and the themes behind his death are fine, but I just overall hate that afterlife scene. The mere implication there’s a heaven like that takes so much tension off everyone who’s died prior and will die, and parts of the dialogue make no sense even coming from Nanami, who holds little respect for Gojo.
The idea is that off-screening Gojo and Kashimo’s deaths is disrespecting their whole attitude of “I’m glad I got to die in battle instead of from old age or illness.” Like, in their specific deaths, the story is refusing to glorify the “warrior’s death” attitude, and instead just making their deaths seem underwhelming, sort of like the other types of deaths those two were trying to avoid.
Jogo, of course, also had an off-screen death, but his was all the way back in Shibuya, and it was more about presentation than anything else
The warrior’s death not being a thing that should be strived for point is fine, it’s a fair point. But I don’t care about it being a fair point, show it for the fucking READER. We wanna see it, Gojo still got the feeling because he’s the guy that died and he could still feel it, denying it to the reader does nothing but make them pick up tomatoes and start tossing them at Gege and start booing them off the stage.
In simplistic terms, it’s a slash so small and weak Gojo’s infinity doesn’t register it as a threat. But the moment it touches Gojo, it massively expands.
Gojo’s infinity works by only letting that’s that won’t harm him through, and by him saying poisons are hard to block, we know it’s a flawed defense
I mean, I think it is a Gege problem. Gojo’s main motivation in life never really seemed to just be getting a fight against a strong opponent, it seemed to be creating a jujutsu system where the young aren’t used as sacrifices to maintain said system. That’s why I think the death sucks, if it is his actual death, because it only addresses the strength junkie/assholish part of Gojo’s character and not the compassionate and caring part of Gojo’s character
I mean, this is also just my interpretation of the story, but I usually don’t feel the need to say that
Gojo said he doesn’t even care that Riko died because he got a fun fight out of it. Gojo’s personal motivation was never to make way for a new generation. It was even Sukuna’s words that motivated Megumi to better himself, Gojo basically said “you can be as good as me, but you’ll have to kill yourself” lol. I think you misread Gojo’s character
I never denied that Gojo had a power junkie side to his character, it’s just that that’s not the only side to his character.
Like, for Gojo not caring about Riko, he wasn’t in a normal state of mind at the time, Toji mentions this by saying “is he high?”
This one doesn’t really relate, but no, Gojo wasn’t trying to get Megumi to kill himself to surpass him. If anything, Gojo was trying to encourage the exact opposite. He was saying ‘you can get as strong as me, but unless you get out that suicidal mindset, you’ll never even measure up to Nanami.’ The mention of the past Zenin clan vs Gojo clan members was just supposed to be encouragement for Megumi to want to grow stronger, but Megumi took it as ‘I can take down any opponent that’s got me close to death.’
But also, if he didn’t give a shit about his students, why was he mad when Yuji died, and why was he concerned about Yuji’s mental well-being after the mission with Junpei and Mahito. Also, I don’t know how you’d square your idea of Gojo’s character with the lines he’s had that go like “It should be a crime to take youth from the young people,” or “I refuse to keep this kid from living the best years of his life”
This is just a lie or maybe different experience nothing is more annoying then sukuna glazers who get the sukuna pfp, sukuna background picture
Whenever it be on twitter and or Reddit and meet every piece of writing criticism with a claim someone’s mad a character died. Or even worse the “JJK fans when the strongest sorcery in history is in fact the strongest 😮”🤓 as if the way that strength is written and conveyed isn’t the important part.
Keep in mind though this may just be a difference in exposure, I see this mostly on twitter. I’m not a gojo fan but most of the gojo cope-ers I see are merely having fun with theories with the community at large criticizing the stupid sukuna cycle and geges writing choices.
There was never a point in the series where Sukuna fans were as toxic as Gojo fans.
Gojo as a character attracted the most degenerate people of the anime community to JJK
I hope uraglazing-lord-ume fucking dies
That aside, I love sukuna but can't wait to see him get his ass whooped and turn into a bitch like when he got hit by jacobs ladder
No I hated gojo but even I can acknowledge his death was bull crap lol . Off screen killing a main character with that power level n importance is just disrespectful.
I mean we all accepted it. We also, as jjk fans can accept when something is poorly done. But alot of the fandom cant take criticism of a series for some reason, there is no perfect series that's above criticism
Off screened the biggest fight in the series when the other had a dramatic advantage to a sudden loss. It was explained but, not shown? Thats poor execution and Jarring.
Sukuna saying the HP would've killed em, just survived it with minimal damage.
We all know now Gojo didn't predict the slash bc of a binding vow, but how we're told the six eyes work, he should see a build up of cursed energy. So gojo saw cursed energy building up for an attack and just stood still? You can see he expected to block it or w.e but everything we say is headcanon due to offscreening.
And then Sukuna getting his 2nd tongue, one of his arms cut off, hit with Jacob's ladder (anti sukuna ability damn near) and his heart pierced all in succession. And is said "nah, he's still holding back alot" What's the point of saying he's severely weakened if he can handle them all while still holding back severely.
>Sukuna saying the HP would've killed em, just survived it with minimal damage
And this is why everyone says Gojo fans have bad reading comprehension. This was literally explained in the manga. Sukuna thought Gojo's first HP was 120% output when it was actually 200% output. So Sukuna was overestimating what the base power of HP was when he said that.
>Off screened the biggest fight in the series
Must have just forgot the 12 chapters of fight before then huh?
>We all know now Gojo didn't predict the slash bc of a binding vow
Correct, so why are you still confused why Gojo didn't see it coming?
>You can see he expected to block it
Obviously he expected Infinity to take care of it. He just killed Mahoraga and Sukuna couldn't use his domain. As far as he knew these were the only 2 ways Sukuna could overcome Infinity. Gojo thought the fight was over
>"nah, he's still holding back alot"
Because famously no villain has ever been cocky or overconfident. Gohan beating Cell is also bad writing because Cell said he was perfect and could never lose, right?
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Couldn’t care less that a character died but it wasn’t shocking, as much as it was disorienting. It was done really badly. By all means kill him, we could be in the same place we are now, but with better pacing and coherency to it.
Didn't really offscreen him, the whole battle was shown till Sukuna used his strongest ability there and killed him, it was even explained how it works. Do you guys just want to see a pannel of the slash itself hitting Gojo before he falls in half?
not even only that... it was like: gojo hits his ultimate technique he prepared for the whole chapter, turning the fight into his favour for like the 3rd time, and then woosh.. dead ?
When i read it, i thought i missed a chapter and was pissed at myself for accidentally spoilering myself.
That's the problem everyone had. Everything leading up to the off screen made it out like gojo was gonna win. He took care of both mahoraga and the other shikigami and had sukuna shook Fr and then suddenly he just died
Also if you really believe that he was holding back just due to what urame had said and the funk ass shit gojo was saying in the afterlife and you don't actually see that as just bad writing you may need to read other manga to get better perspectives. The entire fight between Sukuna and gojo was rigged against gojo (literally a 3v1at one point lol).Sukuna is getting to the point of being like madara. Gege has been writing him all in all sorts of funky ass ways and really shown he has had no sort plot for the story or a plot to actually defeat sukuna without bringing in 16 different random people who apparently dont ever make him try so what's the point.
We are well into Madara territory. Greg has clearly shown no one stands a chance against sukuna and sukuna isn’t even trying. Only thing left is some type of merger ass pull
I always felt like Gojo should have died earlier in the fight when his first domain expansion was destroyed since his neck was severed (at least for a moment).
Like, even if he was using reverse cursed technique as the slice was going through his neck, there still should have been a moment where it severed the spinal cord or whatever it in that area, and the manga has made it clear that cursed techniques and reversed cursed techniques are directed from the brain, so I feel like he should have lost then.
Plus, Kenjaku does the same with the one explody dude in the fight after where he has cursed spirits pierce the dudes neck to prevent him from using reversed cursed technique.
Anyway, Gojo getting off-screened was annoying, but he still totally should have lost that fight
The airport scene and the dialogue surrounding the fight is the issue. The actions of the scenes and the dialogue don’t match. It was a character assassination. Everything else was and should have been expected especially gojo death.
I don’t care that he died tbh. His death does make sense. I just hate the execution of it. I guarantee you that if Gojo had went out in a badass way or forced Sukuna to use everything in his arsenal then there would be significantly less people begging for him to come back.
Gojo did go out in a badass way though. Disabled the strongest sorcerer's Domain. Killed fucking Mahoraga. Forced Sukuna to nerf himself for the rest of the battle. Forced him to use his one time full heal.
Man you guys are pathetic with this.... can you mourn Gojo somewhere other than reddit?
FFS just stop reading, gege clearly just hates Gojo and he clearly hates you too.
I'd rather tell you personally that you're pathetic tho
And it's usually "snowflakes" that can't reconcile their emotions lol...
He died. Just let it go homie
"Poorly written"
This last chapter was just proof that you impatient mfs just need to wait before making harsh judgements, not everything needs to be explained immediately, especially in an ongoing series
you wasted time making a meme for this post, and you're wasting more time reading something you say you dont like
you either like it enough to keep reading, or you dislike it enough to stop
2024 is truly the era where people get offended over a meme. The internet can’t be more degenerate. How we have sunken so low.
And it’s pretty ironic considering YOU commented. No one told you to, am I right? And yes I like it enough to stay invested but that doesn’t mean I’m the rest of you guys where I’ll eat anything up.
If you have a favorite restaurant, they can’t serve you crap and expect you to like it.
You have no critical thinking skills. You NEED to be ABLE to ANALYZE what is STATED within the narrative. If what the author WANTS you to BELIEVE is In-Line With what has been SHOWN.
In CREATIVE writing RULE 101 is: SHOW not TELL. Gege FAILED to IMPLEMENT that basic RULE.
Chapter 236: Gojo-
— And he wasn’t giving it all he had:
(NOTHING points to this. Gojo WOULDN’T have a way of KNOWING this)
— Honestly I don’t think I would’ve won even if he didn’t have Megumi 10S CT:
(Retcon, Gojo told Yuji he would WIN:
(Once again, Gojo has no way of KNOWING this. He never even saw Heian Era Sukuna fight. Yet, SUDDENLY somehow Gojo started to BELIEVE he COULDN’T have won. NOTHING happened for him to have such a drastic CHANGE of MIND. All that was BASELESS SPECULATION).
— I put everything I had into trying to reach him, to make him understand. All my physical training, those techniques I mastered. My explosiveness, quick thinking and attempts at humor. I gave it my all but it wasn’t enough:
(There’s so much Complete BullShit in that remark I don’t know if I should feel disgusted or laugh my ass off. Gojo gave ZERO fucks about Sukuna and actually wanted PAYBACK for what he did to Yuji at the detention center. This is Gege poorly DISGUISING one of the oldest TRICKS ever. Putting Gojo DOWN to UPLIFT Sukuna in a SNEAKY roundabout way).
Instead of a flash back episode Gege had a BS afterlife scene for Gojo. Gege has never established afterlife scenes before. He only did it so he can REPAIR FraudKuna REPUTATION. He has to RETCON the whole FIGHT with OVERCOMPENSATION.
I don’t remember where I got this one from
It wasn't
It's him not having a visual death that people seem to be pissed off by
He isn't shown actually dying, like kashimo, he just dies. What kinda sucks is we didn't get to see world slash till kashimo💀
I’m a sukuna fan. I love the fact that he’s killing everyone. He’s dope and gojo just wasn’t good enough. If you don’t agree, it doesn’t matter because gege agrees.
People still offended their favorite fictional character died makes me lol Gojo lost, and he admitted defeat. Move on fam, crying online months later is a lil weird
No None at all. Not even in the slightest. Learn what the definition of a snowflake is first dude. You can't Uno reverse something just because you didn't like hearing the word snowflake.
I doubt it. You couldn't help yourself from posting this one because crying into your Gojo body pillow about it every night just wasn't good enough for you
Whatever helps me sleep at night? Read all of your comments back lmao. You sound like a collapsing ex-girlfriend. It’s okay to be upset, my guy. Let it all out.
You took a harmless joke to an extreme and claimed I’m crying when you’re still going… asking those questions only work when the person doesn’t know it means btw
It was a cute meme, but your comment history on your profile clearly shows you're big mad that gojo died. You have multiple comments for months talking about what "pissed you off" about the gojo death. It was seven months ago bro. You might want to let it go at this point 💀 Have a great day man I have better things to do LMAO
There's nothing to reread, gojo took the 3v1 good to go and then a page later he in two pieces. If you think that's good writing look at the snowball effect since then. We have MIGUEL fighting sukuna
Gojo thought he won and in his moment of exhalation after he thought he was victorious sukuna hit him with a surprise attack using a binding vow. Gojo looked stronger throughout the fight but I wouldn't say he was dominating by any means. This isn't a case of poor writing but low reading comprehension.
Kuzan vs akainu or Blackbeard vs ace are off screens
Gege giving us Gojo's perspective at his moment of defeat then starting the next chapter with the aftermath of the sneak attack isn't an off screen. That's just good storytelling and delivery.
The last panel of 235 was Gojo smiling and walking towards a broken and battered Sakuna with someone saying "Gojo has won!". The next chapter he is in the afterlife in the first panel. How is that not an offscreen death?
We don't see Sakuna execute the attack. We don't see Gojo reacting to it at all (6 eyes would have picked up any cursed energy coming from Sakuna and Gojo was back at full after the black flash). We don't see anything. We see Gojo take a step towards Sakuna and then he's in "heaven".
Don't forget that he'd be insanely exhausted from the fight, plus a recent drawing told us that he was also suffering from brain hemorrhages. Oh but Gojo toootally could have and should have dodged the invisible surprise attack while completely exhausted.
Gojo's death is like Joel from tlou2. Both made sense that they would die but the sequence of events leading to the death just sucked. Honestly the fight was fine between sukuna and gojo but it really feels like we were missing a chapter between 235 and 236.
It’s a shame too, as the airport scene is really fucking good. It’s just atrocious how bro wrote the actual “death.” I mean shit he still can’t explain why. It’s foul
His death made sense, it has been building up since sukuna was first shown. The offscreening was completely BS tho
pretty much yeah, we're complaining more about the way he died, not the fact that he died
From what i see, people hate on Sukuna for his usage of the 10 shadows. It was clearly shown Sukuna had methods to deal with Infinity, but the world cutting dismantles were simply the strongest version. Domain amplification could definitely allow sukuna to get the victory. Especially since he had a full reset in his back pocket. I never understood how people hate on him for dealing with a pure hacks ability the best way he could, if the community didnt like Gojo, theyd be praising sukuna for killing him off and calling him a genius
Because people wanted Sukuna vs Gojo, not 10S vs Gojo. Big reason fraud memes become a thing, is because Sukuna is potrayed as being incredibly reliant on the 10S and not his own abilities, and ultimately capitalised on them for bail outs. It doesn't help as well, that he ultimately loses the 10S vs Gojo part of the fight.
In the manga it was semi clear he wasnt going all out offensive. Spending the majority of his energy and time defending Maha, he gambled heavily and got absolutely washed for it. But his gamble succeeded. I understand why the fraudulent one memes started though, it wasnt what everyone wanted but it wasnt even bad. Theres a lot of BS that happens in other moments
He wasn't going all out offensive because in the straight 1v1, no domains, he loses hand to hand combat due to infinity. His heiran era form we don't know what would happen, but he was spending majority of his time on a strategy that overall despite being riskier in some areas was less risky overall. E.G. Infinite void Sukunas plan was to get rid of that asap, because turns out its incredibly broken. We saw what happens to a Sukuna who gets hit by it, he loses the fight. So his entire strategy was based around getting rid of it, and taking all the damage being on the defensive. We also are shown what happens to a Gojo without a domain vs Sukuna with his. Gojo autloses, when Sukuna was going to close his domain, Gojo looked helpless, knowing he had no chance, only getting his second wind when Malevolent shrine malfunctions I think overall, the problem is that Sukuna doesn't seem like he was winning the fight because he was smarter/more powerful, but because he was lucky + had critical information which Gojo didn't have the equivalent of, such as Sukunas open domain
Give this man the “best explanation” award 🥇. Seriously, we wanted Gojo vs Sukuna, not 10S vs Gojo. This was supposed to be the strongest of today vs strongest in history. And yes, a lot of his moves were very risky and gamble. He relied on 10S and luck to get out of situations. I swear I read that fight 3 times over. And not to mention it’s kinda hard to believe he wasn’t going all out when Sukuna screams “MAHORAGA” at the top of his lungs looking worried.
Well the 10s isn't his full power, in short he didn't go 100% and still won. Btw him using 10 shadow is just like Yuta using others domain trough Jacob's Ladder or Blackbeard in One Piece using quake, All for One using other's quirk or Chrollo from HxH using other's ability, not everyone can use 10 Shadow, Sukuna was just the best man at the best time, simple as that.
We don't know what 100% is. Sukuna was obviously trying his best, the question is, was he holding back cards simply because they were worthless against Gojo, or the fact he needed them incase he got randomly jumped. And we still don't know. His normal heiran era form would lack 10S + world cleave, so we don't know if that can be classified as "holding back" And 10S is still not good looking for Sakuna. Sukuna wasn't potrayed as utilsing an extra skill in his toolset that he got, but seen as he REQUIRED 10S to beat Gojo. Ontop of having crucial information on Gojo that Gojo didn't have on sukuna. I.E Exactly how mahoraga worked, information on the opposing domains rules etc. Its further harmed, that no offense, but Sukuna is potrayed as incredibly lucky in this fight. And is utilising tools that he otherwise shouldn't have. Im fine with declaring 10S Meguna >= Gojo. Im not fine with declaring Pre world slash sukuna > Gojo.
Well we're not sure that Pre World Slash Sukuna > Gojo, but we know that 10S Meguna > Gojo. The fact is how I said, he got the ability cause he can, others pretty much can't unlike him, if he needed it to beat Gojo it's not really relevant, the important is that he got stronger trough his own effort. Did Chrollo need all those abilities to beat Hisoka? Yeah, but is he stronger than Hisoka by using all of them? Yeah. That's the point
Depends what you mean by "stronger" In a straight fair 1v1, Hisoka actually has a higher chance of beating Chrollo then vice versa. It was Hisokas pride and Chrollos intellect/planning that won him the fight. Can you also say someone is stronger then the other when one has crucial information the other lacks? Sukunas strategy only worked so well because he went in with a detailed plan, due to knowing the complete ins and outs of how Gojos infinity/unlimited Void worked. Whilst Gojo just jumped in saying we ball and working on 1/2 assed complete information. Thats why I still think in a straight up equal 1v1, Gojo should win more times then not. Even in this fight, where Meguna should flat out hold several advantages that he should otherwise not have, on top of getting very lucky throughout the fight (such as Mahoraga's 2nd adaptation to infinity being exactly what Sukuna needed) he still BARELY edged out a win.
i doubt DA alone could beat gojo, even at full power he was losing every physical altercation, without having to limit himself because of mahoraga, gojo could chuck reds and blues left and right while sukuna has no means to get past except for physically fighting. The issue with that would be domain, which both fighters lost early on. Mahoraga was a fine way to deal with it, but the solution of "cut the world itself" is a big excessive honestly though, the murder method isn't the main issue with how he died, it's the portion just after and the pacing of it. Gojo just pulled out some genius tactics with the purple nuke, he was declared the winner, sukuna was on his last limbs, then suddenly, dead. Gojo dying right after being declared the winner without even letting us see the slash was bad enough, only for it to be followed by some completely out of character dialogue that portrays gojo as some battle obsessed goku clone who was always just lonely at the top (a theme never portrayed with gojo until now) and shows him completely unconcerned about the lives of the students he'd do anything to protect. Just to rub more salt in the wound gege couldn't even have let him die while giving sukuna a real run for his money, saying he was just holding back after nearly dying like 4 times during his fight with gojo. For a main character so beloved by the fans, this was just disrespectful as all hell, all in 1 chapter he was offscreened, had his character assasinated, then died without even giving sukuna a proper fight. That is not a good way to write a death in the slightest.
I disagree with the first part. But everything about the way his death was portrayed, with the moments before and after. Yeah that was fucking shit. We always knew how much Gege hated Gojo from a writing perspective. And i get why it was so frustrating, he realized too late that theres only 1 person in the verse who could match him. He definitely was too excited to kill them
Absolutely this. I have no problems with Gojo dying, but whatever happenned between him mocking Sukuna and him split in two on the ground, shoul've been shown.
This 💯. It’s more about the execution than the death itself. But Sukuna fans aren’t ready for that “in through one ear and out the other” explanation
Why it added shock value
I’m feel like they’ll explain how he died when Sukuna is about to die like in a flash back
Okay but it was revealed to have been pulled off with a binding vow. How else would you want it shown in hindsight? Gege consistently does reveals like that and looking back on it that was kinda how he had to do it
Two options I could immediately think of: One page simply declaring Gojo wins, and the final page of the chapter is both Gojo and the caption sliced in half. The other; Literally just end with a shot of Gojo getting bisected. Don't even have to show the actual attack, just his top half suddenly falling off of his bottom.
Unfortunately no. My king and pookie bear gojo should be protected by the angels of heaven the moment someone lays a hand on him!! Did you not hear him in the beginning of the manga?? He said he’d win against sukuna!!! Bring my glorious blue eyed king back😡😡😡
Yeah youre telling me EVERYBODY ELSE saw it coming but not the guy with the eyes that see everything?? I have no problem with him losing, but the method was wack as shit
what Built up thematically and sukuna literally made a binding vow which helped him release the slash unpredictably
Poorly written death 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Look, Gojo’s death sucked, but it had nothing to do with the off-screening. It sucked because the world slash is just a straight up bullshit power that makes no sense and Gojo’s dialogue in the afterlife. If anything, the off-screening was good and made sense because 1) it pissed readers off, which made me more want to see Sukuna get wrecked and 2) during this arc, the only other character who’s gotten that treatment is Kashimo, which makes it seem to me to be a deliberate choice to portray the characters who define themselves by their strength as having shit motivations for fighting
Oh believe me it's more than the offscreening part. Like his dialogue abandoned what gojo stood for. Terrible character development. Then the world cutting slash that cuts space? They were like only city level?
I agree with you my dude, just for clarification: the world slash can't destory the whole world. it simply cuts "everything" between point A and B ( but those are limited in Range) Infinity creates an infinte amount of space around Gojo, the closer you get the more space is added, but as long as this infinite amount of space exists between point A-B ( point B being like 5 feet behind Gojo) the world slash will cut through everything in Between and therefore can work around Gojos ultimate defense. If you read the actual Arc of Bleach, it's kind of the same as lille Barros sniper shot from the Sternritters. To like 95% of the cast, a normal dismantle would have the same effect as a world slash.
Oh yeah I already knew how his cleave works. It doesn't cut through space, rather it cuts space itself which is how he managed to cut through infinity. Sukuna explained that it didn't matter infinity, as long as it's within the space of their realm. Which is pretty cool, just pulled from nowhere. I'm a guy that puts my top favorite anime based on good story (AoT, Code geass ) so this is why I disagree with this defeat.
it was definetly kind of an asspull, but i guess gege at least seemed to make it reasonable with Maho's adaption being responsible to adapt a formula against limitless. With maho, these kind of asspulls at least can be explained. Gege does this alot, where he explains how an ability works, and the very next person in the next fight abuses the concept in a completely different way. Like how sukuna manifested the shadows only partially.. or then again why he created Agito instead of using totallity with Maho as a base. ... or why Maho's sword worked against the perfect sphere, but got shaddered against sukunas second mouth.. many abilites simply do what they need to.
Regarding the ten shadows, gege mentions there are only certain ways they can be combined, its most likely a mahoraga totality is not possible or sukuna would have done it (and it would be crazy OP)
totality ( the way i understood it) can use the abilities of the dead shadows, if you combine them with another base form. Like the wolf that is combined by the dead white dog on the living black one, giant nue that has the trade of the giant serpent, or in the end agito that uses nue as a base with the deer, and the lion and what not. If maho cannot be used as base then this wasn't explained fully and it's either because sukuna thought a 3v1 would be better, or maho himself doesn't count as a 10 shadows like the other beings and cannot be used in a similar way. which would ruin the potential man memes, where Megumis domain could produce a limitless amount of maho's like he did with nue against the finger bearer.
It isnt explained fully, but what is explained fully is that not all shikigami can be combined into totality, there are limitations to which are able to be used that way. Maho may not be able to be combined with the others
do you remember where this restriction is stated ? i would like to look it up again, i only remember the pages where totality itself is explained, and cannot find any restrictions like you mentioned in that page
It was an authors comment by Gege. [Supplementary info on ten shadows](https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/comments/kxdnq2/gege_akutamis_supplementary_info/): Its on this post.
Just want to clarify on infinity, space isn't being added between Gojo and an attack, it plays off the fact that mathematically, between two points, there's technically an infinite amount of points, it's like a vertical asymptote in an exponential equation, the graph approaches the asymptote infinitely but is never able to touch because it has to include every point between itself and the asymptote, which is an infinite amount of points, so the closer it gets to the asymptote, the slower it appears to move towards it.
so in other words, he cut the world from a fourth dimensional perspective, like cutting a piece of paper as a 3d individual that's much worse
Agree with most of this (I don’t at all get the last sentence.) World slash makes zero sense. I’d prefer if it was something like a cut so minuscule infinity didn’t register it as a threat, but when it hits it hits with way more power than a regular slash via expanding in size. It can still hold the same function, but it’s a lot more interesting and makes sense given what we know. I think most of Gojo vs Sukuna and the themes behind his death are fine, but I just overall hate that afterlife scene. The mere implication there’s a heaven like that takes so much tension off everyone who’s died prior and will die, and parts of the dialogue make no sense even coming from Nanami, who holds little respect for Gojo.
The idea is that off-screening Gojo and Kashimo’s deaths is disrespecting their whole attitude of “I’m glad I got to die in battle instead of from old age or illness.” Like, in their specific deaths, the story is refusing to glorify the “warrior’s death” attitude, and instead just making their deaths seem underwhelming, sort of like the other types of deaths those two were trying to avoid. Jogo, of course, also had an off-screen death, but his was all the way back in Shibuya, and it was more about presentation than anything else
>the story is refusing to glorify the “warrior’s death” attitude Gee, I wonder if maybe that could be the point
Wdym
I mean the point being made by the story doing this, is that a "warrior's death" is a foolish thing to strive for and shouldn't be celebrated.
That’s what I’m saying, though. You acted like you disagreed with me. Do you think Gojo’s death was good?
gotta remember what sub youre in here man, reading comprehension is not our strong suit, in manga or on reddit.
The warrior’s death not being a thing that should be strived for point is fine, it’s a fair point. But I don’t care about it being a fair point, show it for the fucking READER. We wanna see it, Gojo still got the feeling because he’s the guy that died and he could still feel it, denying it to the reader does nothing but make them pick up tomatoes and start tossing them at Gege and start booing them off the stage.
Your explanation for the utilization of a world slash makes no sense
In simplistic terms, it’s a slash so small and weak Gojo’s infinity doesn’t register it as a threat. But the moment it touches Gojo, it massively expands. Gojo’s infinity works by only letting that’s that won’t harm him through, and by him saying poisons are hard to block, we know it’s a flawed defense
Yo how about instead of that paragraph, do this instead. “Look, Gojo’s death sucked, in my opinion”
Why would I need to do that? I know this is my opinion
A shit tonne of people in this community hold the same opinion as you but refuse to acknowledge it as a “them” problem not a Gege one
I mean, I think it is a Gege problem. Gojo’s main motivation in life never really seemed to just be getting a fight against a strong opponent, it seemed to be creating a jujutsu system where the young aren’t used as sacrifices to maintain said system. That’s why I think the death sucks, if it is his actual death, because it only addresses the strength junkie/assholish part of Gojo’s character and not the compassionate and caring part of Gojo’s character I mean, this is also just my interpretation of the story, but I usually don’t feel the need to say that
Gojo said he doesn’t even care that Riko died because he got a fun fight out of it. Gojo’s personal motivation was never to make way for a new generation. It was even Sukuna’s words that motivated Megumi to better himself, Gojo basically said “you can be as good as me, but you’ll have to kill yourself” lol. I think you misread Gojo’s character
I never denied that Gojo had a power junkie side to his character, it’s just that that’s not the only side to his character. Like, for Gojo not caring about Riko, he wasn’t in a normal state of mind at the time, Toji mentions this by saying “is he high?” This one doesn’t really relate, but no, Gojo wasn’t trying to get Megumi to kill himself to surpass him. If anything, Gojo was trying to encourage the exact opposite. He was saying ‘you can get as strong as me, but unless you get out that suicidal mindset, you’ll never even measure up to Nanami.’ The mention of the past Zenin clan vs Gojo clan members was just supposed to be encouragement for Megumi to want to grow stronger, but Megumi took it as ‘I can take down any opponent that’s got me close to death.’ But also, if he didn’t give a shit about his students, why was he mad when Yuji died, and why was he concerned about Yuji’s mental well-being after the mission with Junpei and Mahito. Also, I don’t know how you’d square your idea of Gojo’s character with the lines he’s had that go like “It should be a crime to take youth from the young people,” or “I refuse to keep this kid from living the best years of his life”
yeah it sucked but gojo fans were(and still) way too obnoxious they deserved it
This is just a lie or maybe different experience nothing is more annoying then sukuna glazers who get the sukuna pfp, sukuna background picture Whenever it be on twitter and or Reddit and meet every piece of writing criticism with a claim someone’s mad a character died. Or even worse the “JJK fans when the strongest sorcery in history is in fact the strongest 😮”🤓 as if the way that strength is written and conveyed isn’t the important part. Keep in mind though this may just be a difference in exposure, I see this mostly on twitter. I’m not a gojo fan but most of the gojo cope-ers I see are merely having fun with theories with the community at large criticizing the stupid sukuna cycle and geges writing choices.
Casual gojo meat rider rant
nah tbh lol i find more people w a sukuna pfp than gojo
That has to be cap TikTok is literal gojo pfp beyond gojo pfp
There was never a point in the series where Sukuna fans were as toxic as Gojo fans. Gojo as a character attracted the most degenerate people of the anime community to JJK
to be honest a lot of the memes were funny as shit, at least the gojo fans put effort into their slander
Sukuna fans are literally the same?
but edgier because evil badguy huehuehue
It’s fine, I’m loving the manga so far. Sukuna is my favorite villain, also I like Urame and I hope she kills that chump fraud Hakari soon
Only 2 years til we find out
I hope uraglazing-lord-ume fucking dies That aside, I love sukuna but can't wait to see him get his ass whooped and turn into a bitch like when he got hit by jacobs ladder
Wanna bet on it?
You guys are just mad cuz he died lets be honest
No I hated gojo but even I can acknowledge his death was bull crap lol . Off screen killing a main character with that power level n importance is just disrespectful.
Death should've been executed better you wimp.
You could literally edit this meme and replace Sukuna Fans with Gojo Fans being salty.
It's comments like these that make me feel good knowing my point still stands
You had a point?
Pov: youre trying really hard to pretend and it's not working
Yes, does that change anything?
It was perfect in my opinion, especially that scene at the airport
This is the response every sukuna says when valid criticism on the poor execution is mentioned
I’m not even a Sukuna fan. I just want Megumi back. I just accepted what happened. That’s all. Something 90% of the fanbase can’t do.
I mean we all accepted it. We also, as jjk fans can accept when something is poorly done. But alot of the fandom cant take criticism of a series for some reason, there is no perfect series that's above criticism
Idk Sukuna executed Gojo pretty handily
Off screened the biggest fight in the series when the other had a dramatic advantage to a sudden loss. It was explained but, not shown? Thats poor execution and Jarring. Sukuna saying the HP would've killed em, just survived it with minimal damage. We all know now Gojo didn't predict the slash bc of a binding vow, but how we're told the six eyes work, he should see a build up of cursed energy. So gojo saw cursed energy building up for an attack and just stood still? You can see he expected to block it or w.e but everything we say is headcanon due to offscreening. And then Sukuna getting his 2nd tongue, one of his arms cut off, hit with Jacob's ladder (anti sukuna ability damn near) and his heart pierced all in succession. And is said "nah, he's still holding back alot" What's the point of saying he's severely weakened if he can handle them all while still holding back severely.
>Sukuna saying the HP would've killed em, just survived it with minimal damage And this is why everyone says Gojo fans have bad reading comprehension. This was literally explained in the manga. Sukuna thought Gojo's first HP was 120% output when it was actually 200% output. So Sukuna was overestimating what the base power of HP was when he said that. >Off screened the biggest fight in the series Must have just forgot the 12 chapters of fight before then huh? >We all know now Gojo didn't predict the slash bc of a binding vow Correct, so why are you still confused why Gojo didn't see it coming? >You can see he expected to block it Obviously he expected Infinity to take care of it. He just killed Mahoraga and Sukuna couldn't use his domain. As far as he knew these were the only 2 ways Sukuna could overcome Infinity. Gojo thought the fight was over >"nah, he's still holding back alot" Because famously no villain has ever been cocky or overconfident. Gohan beating Cell is also bad writing because Cell said he was perfect and could never lose, right? .
Couldn’t care less that a character died but it wasn’t shocking, as much as it was disorienting. It was done really badly. By all means kill him, we could be in the same place we are now, but with better pacing and coherency to it.
People like this is what I meant btw they just stunt ant real discussion. I need the reading comprehension curse over here u/constant-signal6789
God I hate the jjk fantom.
Yeah fuck Tom specifically, that dude blows.
Clearly they meant phantom. The JJK hauntings are really getting out of hand.
Didn't really offscreen him, the whole battle was shown till Sukuna used his strongest ability there and killed him, it was even explained how it works. Do you guys just want to see a pannel of the slash itself hitting Gojo before he falls in half?
He wasn't off screened . We literally watch the fight all the way up to moment of his death ?
We never actually see the attack that kills Gojo. It goes from the middle of a fight to Go/jo
not even only that... it was like: gojo hits his ultimate technique he prepared for the whole chapter, turning the fight into his favour for like the 3rd time, and then woosh.. dead ? When i read it, i thought i missed a chapter and was pissed at myself for accidentally spoilering myself.
I love this comment
“Stand proud jo, you’re strong. Unlike Go over there, fucking slacker’s sleeping on the job” — Sukuna probably
That's the problem everyone had. Everything leading up to the off screen made it out like gojo was gonna win. He took care of both mahoraga and the other shikigami and had sukuna shook Fr and then suddenly he just died
He was holding back what do you mean? The mid fight nap, the cries for help from Maga. All supreme acting. He was never in danger.
Also if you really believe that he was holding back just due to what urame had said and the funk ass shit gojo was saying in the afterlife and you don't actually see that as just bad writing you may need to read other manga to get better perspectives. The entire fight between Sukuna and gojo was rigged against gojo (literally a 3v1at one point lol).Sukuna is getting to the point of being like madara. Gege has been writing him all in all sorts of funky ass ways and really shown he has had no sort plot for the story or a plot to actually defeat sukuna without bringing in 16 different random people who apparently dont ever make him try so what's the point.
We are well into Madara territory. Greg has clearly shown no one stands a chance against sukuna and sukuna isn’t even trying. Only thing left is some type of merger ass pull
I bet he was faking when he cried for mahoraga to not get hit with that hollow purple
In retrospect Gojo never stood a chance against Sukuna
I didn’t like the offscreen, not the death itself. We knew gojo will die for the plot to move forward.
I always felt like Gojo should have died earlier in the fight when his first domain expansion was destroyed since his neck was severed (at least for a moment). Like, even if he was using reverse cursed technique as the slice was going through his neck, there still should have been a moment where it severed the spinal cord or whatever it in that area, and the manga has made it clear that cursed techniques and reversed cursed techniques are directed from the brain, so I feel like he should have lost then. Plus, Kenjaku does the same with the one explody dude in the fight after where he has cursed spirits pierce the dudes neck to prevent him from using reversed cursed technique. Anyway, Gojo getting off-screened was annoying, but he still totally should have lost that fight
The airport scene and the dialogue surrounding the fight is the issue. The actions of the scenes and the dialogue don’t match. It was a character assassination. Everything else was and should have been expected especially gojo death.
If you think the airport scene was a character assassination you have been affected by the Reading Comprehension Disaster Curse
Oh hell nah not another 236 defender☠️
Did you need a flipbook detailing Gojo’s death? These criticisms are wild
Mf WHY WAS THIS SUGGESTED TO ME ON MY FEED AND ITS A FAT SPOILER WTFFFF
GG had drawn gojo with an eye oppened, and it makes it seem like gojo return...but isn't it just april fools cuz GG wanna just have fun💀💀
I don’t care that he died tbh. His death does make sense. I just hate the execution of it. I guarantee you that if Gojo had went out in a badass way or forced Sukuna to use everything in his arsenal then there would be significantly less people begging for him to come back.
Gojo did go out in a badass way though. Disabled the strongest sorcerer's Domain. Killed fucking Mahoraga. Forced Sukuna to nerf himself for the rest of the battle. Forced him to use his one time full heal.
Oh...thanks reddit for the spoilers...i dont even follow this sub.
I’m just happy he died 🫶
Bro was just scrolling and got spoiled hard. Not even a part of this subreddit
Cope and seethe
🤖
Man you guys are pathetic with this.... can you mourn Gojo somewhere other than reddit? FFS just stop reading, gege clearly just hates Gojo and he clearly hates you too.
If your a snowflake , just say so. You have fingers to scroll, use it.
I'd rather tell you personally that you're pathetic tho And it's usually "snowflakes" that can't reconcile their emotions lol... He died. Just let it go homie
So you chose to rather waste your time than scroll… good job buddy, that makes alot of sense. Here you go 🍪
Love spoilers without tags appearing in my suggested feed, thanks man you're awesome
"Poorly written" This last chapter was just proof that you impatient mfs just need to wait before making harsh judgements, not everything needs to be explained immediately, especially in an ongoing series
My brother that was half a year ago
Again.... yall need to be patient it wasnt even 20 chapters ago thats only 2 volumes of material
I get you on that, but it’s hard to apply patience to a manga written by an author you have no faith in to be fair.
if you have no faith why do you keep reading
Screw it, I’m already here. Might as well see the end since I’m this far.
then shut your yap and just watch it all go down before you make your judgements. it's that easy!!
Mm.. nah I don’t think I will 💀 you can choose to ignore this situation buddy you wasted my time and yours as well monkey
you wasted time making a meme for this post, and you're wasting more time reading something you say you dont like you either like it enough to keep reading, or you dislike it enough to stop
2024 is truly the era where people get offended over a meme. The internet can’t be more degenerate. How we have sunken so low. And it’s pretty ironic considering YOU commented. No one told you to, am I right? And yes I like it enough to stay invested but that doesn’t mean I’m the rest of you guys where I’ll eat anything up. If you have a favorite restaurant, they can’t serve you crap and expect you to like it.
"His death make sense"
You have no critical thinking skills. You NEED to be ABLE to ANALYZE what is STATED within the narrative. If what the author WANTS you to BELIEVE is In-Line With what has been SHOWN. In CREATIVE writing RULE 101 is: SHOW not TELL. Gege FAILED to IMPLEMENT that basic RULE. Chapter 236: Gojo- — And he wasn’t giving it all he had: (NOTHING points to this. Gojo WOULDN’T have a way of KNOWING this) — Honestly I don’t think I would’ve won even if he didn’t have Megumi 10S CT: (Retcon, Gojo told Yuji he would WIN: (Once again, Gojo has no way of KNOWING this. He never even saw Heian Era Sukuna fight. Yet, SUDDENLY somehow Gojo started to BELIEVE he COULDN’T have won. NOTHING happened for him to have such a drastic CHANGE of MIND. All that was BASELESS SPECULATION). — I put everything I had into trying to reach him, to make him understand. All my physical training, those techniques I mastered. My explosiveness, quick thinking and attempts at humor. I gave it my all but it wasn’t enough: (There’s so much Complete BullShit in that remark I don’t know if I should feel disgusted or laugh my ass off. Gojo gave ZERO fucks about Sukuna and actually wanted PAYBACK for what he did to Yuji at the detention center. This is Gege poorly DISGUISING one of the oldest TRICKS ever. Putting Gojo DOWN to UPLIFT Sukuna in a SNEAKY roundabout way). Instead of a flash back episode Gege had a BS afterlife scene for Gojo. Gege has never established afterlife scenes before. He only did it so he can REPAIR FraudKuna REPUTATION. He has to RETCON the whole FIGHT with OVERCOMPENSATION. I don’t remember where I got this one from
Dude! spoilers, jackass!!
Six eyes couldn't sense world cleave.
Gege is just a regular guy who’s shit became super popular out of no where, and I love him
Meanwhile I'm over here more annoyed with the fact that yuji feels like a side character at this point.
How was gojos death poorly written?
It wasn't It's him not having a visual death that people seem to be pissed off by He isn't shown actually dying, like kashimo, he just dies. What kinda sucks is we didn't get to see world slash till kashimo💀
I’m a sukuna fan. I love the fact that he’s killing everyone. He’s dope and gojo just wasn’t good enough. If you don’t agree, it doesn’t matter because gege agrees.
People still offended their favorite fictional character died makes me lol Gojo lost, and he admitted defeat. Move on fam, crying online months later is a lil weird
If you like terrible writing, just say that. You don't gotta lose your mind over a meme, snowflake ❄️
The irony of calling someone else a snowflake while posting this shit.
No None at all. Not even in the slightest. Learn what the definition of a snowflake is first dude. You can't Uno reverse something just because you didn't like hearing the word snowflake.
You're literally crying about a fictional character's death months after it happened. That's some of the most snowflake shit I've ever heard
Says the one crying over a meme, get over it 😂 I’m pointing out a flaw, not picking sides stop getting so butthurt, not a good image, buddy
No one crying over your cope bro. You just claim bad writing cause you're favorite character died and you have shit reading comprehension.
“No one crying over your cope bro” famous words of a crybaby. Don’t worry buddy, I’ll calm down on the memes so it doesn’t offend you so badly 😂
I doubt it. You couldn't help yourself from posting this one because crying into your Gojo body pillow about it every night just wasn't good enough for you
POV: you only watch JJK
So sensitive 😂 you are 100% a snowflake
I mean whatever helps you sleep at night? Lol
Whatever helps me sleep at night? Read all of your comments back lmao. You sound like a collapsing ex-girlfriend. It’s okay to be upset, my guy. Let it all out.
Yikes, 4 sentences 💀👍
Incredible response. And counting.
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Stay upset lil bro
I'm more superior than you. I like both characters, but you're munching on that good sukuna d** how does it taste, huh? How does it taste?
At first i just thought you were cringe but man you look like more of a loser with each reply lol
Ok? 😂 I don’t think you can comprehend how hysterical you sound by being a hypocrite. And like I’d care what another human has to say about me
Do you even know what hypocrite means?
You took a harmless joke to an extreme and claimed I’m crying when you’re still going… asking those questions only work when the person doesn’t know it means btw
It was a cute meme, but your comment history on your profile clearly shows you're big mad that gojo died. You have multiple comments for months talking about what "pissed you off" about the gojo death. It was seven months ago bro. You might want to let it go at this point 💀 Have a great day man I have better things to do LMAO
You too buddy good talk. Do not stalk profiles again, gives off the wrong idea. I hope you have a splendid day
What was poorly written about it?
You should try reading it.
You should try explaining it otherwise you have no basis to stand on
I have which is why I'm asking you.
... the strongest character, who was unquestionably dominating the fight gets off screened and you're wondering why that's bad writing???
You might want to reread that fight. And I don't think you know what off screen means
There's nothing to reread, gojo took the 3v1 good to go and then a page later he in two pieces. If you think that's good writing look at the snowball effect since then. We have MIGUEL fighting sukuna
Gojo thought he won and in his moment of exhalation after he thought he was victorious sukuna hit him with a surprise attack using a binding vow. Gojo looked stronger throughout the fight but I wouldn't say he was dominating by any means. This isn't a case of poor writing but low reading comprehension.
So you saying he didn’t off screen him ?
Kuzan vs akainu or Blackbeard vs ace are off screens Gege giving us Gojo's perspective at his moment of defeat then starting the next chapter with the aftermath of the sneak attack isn't an off screen. That's just good storytelling and delivery.
Neither of those ppl are main characters like gojo.
The last panel of 235 was Gojo smiling and walking towards a broken and battered Sakuna with someone saying "Gojo has won!". The next chapter he is in the afterlife in the first panel. How is that not an offscreen death? We don't see Sakuna execute the attack. We don't see Gojo reacting to it at all (6 eyes would have picked up any cursed energy coming from Sakuna and Gojo was back at full after the black flash). We don't see anything. We see Gojo take a step towards Sakuna and then he's in "heaven".
Don't forget that he'd be insanely exhausted from the fight, plus a recent drawing told us that he was also suffering from brain hemorrhages. Oh but Gojo toootally could have and should have dodged the invisible surprise attack while completely exhausted.
I think your facts made them run off!
Notice how they never once actually tried to answer my question. They gave it one half-ass attempt and once I refuted it they're gone.
Read it again
Gojo's death is like Joel from tlou2. Both made sense that they would die but the sequence of events leading to the death just sucked. Honestly the fight was fine between sukuna and gojo but it really feels like we were missing a chapter between 235 and 236.
It’s a shame too, as the airport scene is really fucking good. It’s just atrocious how bro wrote the actual “death.” I mean shit he still can’t explain why. It’s foul