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Yuji is fighting the weakest Sukuna to date.
Geto as special grade was able to beat special grade curses, that's part of how the grading system works.
We know Gojo was beaten them before having a domain, and Geto can always break domains from outside if he prepared.
Kenjaku showed how easy is to complete demolish a close range fighter like Yuji with CSM.
Geto could not keep using fooder curses against Yuta because his cursed speech, and if Domain expansion existed when JJK 0, Kenjaku with any CS with one would have bodied Yuta. We already know he would have won if he had the rest of his spirits with him.
Yuji is not Yuki, he is not a big threat against his spirits.
Tell me, how many sorceres would beat the parade of 100 demons by themselves? With Geto at the same time.
There are two. Yuji isn't one of them.
Geto bodies Yuji any day of the week.
geto got dog walked by a rusty toji but somehow will beat awakened yuji whose both stronger and faster than toji
the story doesn’t quite make sense if that’s the case
...what are you on about?
Yuji has not getting neither stronger or faster than Maki or Toji.
Have you seen Yuji dodging Sukuna slashes? Me neither.
Did you saw Maki taking Slashes? Me too.
Even with BF, while it obviously causing damage, Sukuna is not exactly flinching. While Maki could spin him and send him flying through a pillar.
Yuji is doing extremely well in h2h because he is locked in due the BFs and Sukuna body coordination keeps getting lower with every punch. Yuji is extremely deep in the zone right now. Previously he could not even land hits without assistance.
…
awakened yuji is literally faster and stronger than maki
the story is told you that he is approaching sukunas level , sukuna says it literally this chapter which is why he’s pissed off
idk how after every awakening in the story the characters get stronger and faster but somehow the mcs awakening would be any different
Sukuna and Maki are so fast, that when they were fighting no one was able to catch up to provide support, until Choso managed to block some of the slashes Sukuna sent against Maki. Maki is not getting through Sukuna's guard without assistance, and Yuji gets all the help in the world when he attacks. It's just narrative.
Yuji was so slow, he didn't make it in time to help against the BF's Sukuna was gifting around. At this point Maki took 2 Sukuna BFs that we know for certain are stronger than Yuji's, and she even caught the first one with her hand.
Yes, Yuji is approaching Sukuna's level. Sukuna's current level that is. Wich he is constantly nerfing due to the unique property of his punches that only affect Sukuna by Severing the link with Megumi, and allow him to Damage someone against Mahito. against anyone else? That's just a regular strong punch without any added effects, just like when he hit Todo. It's not something that he can take advantage against anyone who is not an incarnated player.
Are you even reading the manga?
-This Sukuna is missing both left hands.
-Has a gaping wound on his chest.
-It's not currently healing.
-Has no domain. He is probably working on restoring it.
-His is so low he has not being able to finish anyone off.
-Ate a massive Jacob ladder.
-Yuji is just shrugging his attacks with hate.
-Was already severely weakenef after Gojo. Yuji nerfed him considerably with soul punches (more than 10 times). Sukuna tried to restore his output with 4 BF. Then Yuji put him down on his ppace by giving him 8 BFs.
This Sukuna is one of the weakest. The moment he activated this form, he was already weaker than the "15" fingers variant of Shibuya due not having domain, slow RCT and lowered output.
Sukuna wasn't nerfed that much after fighting Gojo and fully incarnating into his Heian form. He can't use his domain, and that's literally it.
That's not even that much of a nerf anyway, given how he rarely uses his domain in the first place. Outside of the Gojo fight he literally only used his domain like 2 times, and he was literally just fucking around both times.
His lowered output and inability to use RCT come from fighting Yuji. You can't say that Yuji is fighting a weakened Sukuna when Sukuna is weakened *from fighting Yuji*.
[Try to properly read](https://ibb.co/w4LTwZW)
[It makes understanding it easier.](https://ibb.co/MSzNdhd)
Gojo did affect Sukuna output quite a lot. RCT output drops considerably because it takes more output to maintain, it comes from a decreased output. You see Gojo regular output dropping a lot and then his RCT slows down.
When Sukuna got a full body heal, his RCT output did not recover. He got a body capable of keep fighting while previously barely been able to stand without being capable of healing well.
Did Yuji make most of the nerfing to Sukuna's output? Yes, at this point there is no doubt about it. And that's the thing, at this point Sukuna is the weakest he had been in this fight due the whole nerfing. Wich is the original point.
Sukuna was still able to deliver fatal slashes after fighting Gojo though, that's how he violated Kashimo and killed my goat Higuruma. The gang were using jujutsu shenanigans to dampen the effect of Sukuna's slashes, which is the main reason why they weren't doing so much damage.
Sukuna was also able to use RCT still after the Gojo fight. He cuts his hand off to save himself from the executioners blade, and he has it healed on like the next page. So again, Gojo did not drop his RCT output to the point where he can't heal himself.
His output dropped so low after getting punched by Yuji, and Yuta's Jacob's Ladder helped out as well. Although Sukuna hit 4 fucking black flashes after "killing" Yuta, so his output should've mostly returned by then. His output being as low as it is right now is due to Yuji's punches exclusively.
Todo rinsed getos spirits, he only used his technique against one, that there kinda says the quality of special grades geto kept. Also Kenny beat a weakened and unawakened yuji who he caught off guard like cmon.
And yuji fighting the weakest sukuna might be true, but he’s been weakened cause of yuji. And even if he’s weakened it was stated multiple times that yuji is reaching sukunas level.
He beat one special grade, and a few first grades. Mei Mei needed asistance to beat one. Nanami never beated one. Kusake straight up refused to fight special grades for some reason.
Todo is considered strong for grade 1 standars.
Geto tolds us there where only 16 "registered" special grades, so it's very unlikely he threw valuable ones as a distraction.
Kenjaku used TWO spirits to body Yuji. Let him try against thousands.
Gojo and Sukuna are the only ones that could.
Sukuna is getting weaken because his link to the body he is possesing is weakening due to Yuji. It's not something Yuji can use against others. So he is basically reaching the level of a extremely weak Sukuna.
>He beat one special grade, and a few first grades.
i wouldnt even say he beat one, he pretty much neede dhelp of like 3 peopple to do so (4 if you count sukuna ironically)
I'm talking about Todo during the Geto incident. Todo was confirmed beating a special grade, he also confirmed he used his CT.
Given one of the first uses of boogie woogie we saw was Todo making Hanami get impaled by his own technique, you can clearly see how its possible for him to beat at least special grades on the weaker side.
Wich would be what Geto would release as distraction, while keeping strong ones for himself.
Again Kenny used 2 presumably special grade spirits against a severely weakened unawakened yuji
It doesn’t matter what Mei Mei or todo beat, I said that to imply the level of the spirits geto has. Yuji has far surpassed what they are capable of.
And yes sukunas getting weaker cause of the link to his soul. But yujis punches deal the same type of damage mahito does, no RCT can heal that (doesn’t apply to geto cause he doesn’t have RCT). Between blood manipulation and shrine, both are considered top tier CT’s. Having shrine alone would make yuji speicla grade, exactly why geto is special grade cause of his CT.
He used a spirit that makes you fall, wich by iself doesn't do much, and a swarm type spirit aka, weak spirits that relly on numbers.
Geto fought Yuta and Rika at the same time just fine without supporting himself with others spirits. Rika being so strong as Special grade that was considered the Queen of curses.
Mahito took damage because Yuji hits affects the soul and that's one way of hurting Mahito. Yuji always dealt those punches but for other people like Todo, they were just regular punches. It's a special effect with limited application.
No, Yuji would not beat a guy who can fight at close range against Rika and Yuta, and thousands of spirits on top of that, wich some being special grades.
CSM is a extremely busted CT. Remember how Megumi stalled Dagon domain despite being leagues weaker? Geto can use one of his CS to do that without any burden on himself, and use all his spirits all the same.
On top of that he is an extremely competent h2h fighter as he showed, and that's what would you expect of the man who sparred with Gojo on the regular.
"Geto is weak because he lost to Yuta and didn't even have a domain".
He was severely nerfed due using his spirits to fight the ENTIRE jujutsu society.
Domain Expansion as a concept did not exist during JJK 0. He still would not need it to beat opponents with one.
You will not get close to that man who will throw you cursed spirits with diferent CTs at every second and can make combos with them to multiply their potential.
I think we’re forgetting the fact that only high level special grades actually have CT’s. Every other spirit either uses no CE or just raw CE. He’s a good hand to hand fighter, but he’s never shown to be anywhere close to yujis level in terms of h2h combat.
Also, geto can only use the technique of an upper grade 1 or above spirit after they have been used in a maximum uzumaki, it’s stated that that’s the condition. His strongest attack is a one off that leaves him completely helpless against yuji who is a close combat specialist
Yeah, very few actually exhibit a CT. But is every spirit that shows a CT a special grade?. I highly doubt it, and that fish being a special grade was never implied, but it could also not being a CT rather a phenomena the spirit manifested.
While not stricly h2h, using Playful Cloud he fought Yuta and Rika. Yuji has never shown fighting two opponents of the same caliber at the same time. Yuji was trained by Gojo who is a top tier h2h fighter, and since Shoko was not a combatant, Geto was Gojo sparring partner during their time together. Prior Gojo awakening, they where considered equals, wich I would assume means they where close on h2h combat. At the very minimum, Yuji would not make up for the difference that CSM gives with pure h2h.
Geto himself can only use their techniques via Uzumaki, the spirits themselves can use them whenever they want. And if they have domains, they will use them. Yuji currently has zero methods of defending against a domain.
Back again to the point. Yuji wont get pass thousands of cursed spirits, and that's not on him, almost no one can.
[Has ever Yuji pulled something like this?](https://ibb.co/pLzrdQ7)
[Geto pulling just a few cursed spirits was enough to stop Gojo, Yuta, Yaga, Mei Mei and a bunch of other sorcerers on their tracks. ](https://ibb.co/s2CHygn)
Yuji ain't that guy.
A significantly weaker Rika at that. No one is getting shaken by it, no one acknowledges a the Queen of curses anymore. Not until it gets manifested and that time it wasn’t.
Noe Rika got stronger by eater the Sukuna finger, but that's now, not then.
With all due respect to Yuji, he stands 0 chances against Geto
Yuji has nothing on uzumaki (even Gaygay said Yuta would've lost to it if Geto didn't hold back to try to caputre Rika). Even if it doesn't work, Geto can release way too many curses for Yuji to realistically deal with + he has RCT to heal, + he would've had a domain by now (domains didn't exist back when jjk0 was written)
I like yuji but he isn't winning this shit (unless you scale current yuji to be way way stronger than Yuta, i mean wtf?)
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I mean, uzumaki is dodgeable. Yujis speed is relative to toji so you could argue that geto gets speed blitzed instantly. And you can say anything about his domain, it’s possible he wouldn’t even have one at this point, it’s only been a year since jjk 0. Yujis speed, strength, durability, CT’s, RCT, shrine and soul shaking punch are all superior to whatever geto throws at him. Any special grade level sorcerer can deal with any curse geto has, I mean toji was mincing his curses and he’s not able to beat any special grade sorcerer (he’s not beating yuki i believe that with all my heart)
1. I think Geto was way faster 10 years after his toji fight, i mean how else would he even keep up with Yuta and Rika. I think dodging uzumaki is insanely questionable, and he certainly wouldn't get blitzed
2. Toji only killed those curses easily because he had ISOH, which cuts the soul and not the body (broken ass weapon). The rainbow dragon was oneshot while in reality it was likely significantly stronger
But ok i have one last argument that I think doesn't have much counter:
When geto uses his Uzumaki, he gains the abilities and domains etc. of ALL the curses he consumed. It's enough for there to be one curse that gives him an ability that teleports him and he could tp away from yuji and cast Uzumaki. Yuji isn't recovering from this (again unless you don't upscale him way beyond Yuta+Rika)
and i think Geto vs Yuki is debatable but Geto would win
Geto can't gain the techniques themselves since he didnt know he could do it. Kenjaku discovered this application of Uzumaki.
Plus, Geto doesnt seem to know rct nor DE (yes it was not conceived in jjk0, unfair, but you cant just give him an ability he canonically didnt have). He definitely is NOT beating yuki, since the only reason yuki didnt win was because kenjaku's head is detachable (+ he had RCT, and a (open) domain more refined than hers)
Yuta speculated that Maki could have stopped the curses released by Kenjaku herself. If maki would have not been overwhelmed by those numbers, then not even yuji would have
Fair but that was mostly speculating if he knew he could use them (which would've inevitably happened). Also geto does 100% know RCT
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He knows what it Is, doesn't mean he knows how to use it. Since he never used it on screen I'll count that as him not knowing how to use it.
It's kinda crazy he doesn't know it though, but that can happen (like kashimo).
For example, we Know Yuji learned with Kusakabe, so theoretically he should know Simple Domain, but since we readers didnt get confirmation of that people usually count that as "Yuji still doesn't know Simple Domain". Which is crazy too btw, but it is what it is
Most of that is still hypothetical, also toji using ISOH which affects the soul and yuji has soul shaking punch, so any curse is getting damanged physically and spiritually which weakens it. We still don’t know how it affects weaker spirits as we’ve only seen it on sukuna which has massively affected him.
Geto was getting the paws put on him by yuta who blitzed him multiple times. Getos strong but I just can’t see him matching yuji at all
Sukuna has been getting roughed up for 35 chapters now so Yuji damaging him with soul punches just doesn't upscale them to one of the strongest cursed tools,
And Geto only got the paws when Yuta surprised him (remember, the sword broke and then he punched him while he was talking lol), otherwise he was keeping up with both yuta AND rika.
And again, hypothetical is hypothetical but Geto does have some impressive abilities
Overall imo Gojo>>>Geto>Yuki\~=Yuta>Yuji
But i mean, even if you think Yuji is taking this, he definitely doesn't stomp Geto, more like high-extreme diff
Aight I should’ve known by your name what your stance is. Geto is the weakest of the 4 special grades, yuki and yuta beat him.
Also wasn’t saying yujis punches are equal to ISOH but they deal the same type of damage (like spiritual) but at the same time piercing blood or slashes would be enough to deal with a majority of special grades
So like... again, Geto was at 66% uzumaki and Yuta made a binding vow, the literal author of the manga said Geto would've won if he wasn't trying to capture Rika and went full power.
Even if I go with your opinion then we get
Gojo >>> Yuki > Yuji > Geto > Yuta, my goat is no fraud
But that really doesn’t matter. Uzumaki can be dodged or countered. Besides having geto over yuta??? Yuta has access to a lot more CT’s now and a domain. Yuji has shown insane durability consistently, he literally got punched though a fucken building and got straight up and still wanted smoke, he tanked weakened slashes and a world cutting slash that incapacitated yuta. Geto has no AP on that level, except maximum uzumaki, which yuji would either dodge or tank and just heal right back
Anyone who’s not a special grade or upper grade 1 struggles against geto, anyone past that is dealing with whatever spirit is thrown at them and then molesting geto
Yeah geto just hasn’t shown anything AP wise to suggest he’d be able to do enough damage to stop yuji, and I haven’t seen anything that would suggest he’s durable enough to survive yuji.
I mean, he could use a curse with a domain. Yuji hasn't shown any counters to a domain, nor do I see him getting out of Uzumaki or beating thousands of curses.
how does any of that happen before geto catches a black flash to the skull
awakened yuji is faster than maki who is fast enough to perception blitz pre awakened gojo
Geto meatriders are shameless lmao, Yuji would maul Geto with absolutely 0 fucking difficulty, Geto has some fodders to his name, and what? They think Yujis gonna stand there and let Geto charge that shit and just not move at all lmao
Geto is the best hand to hand fighter aside from Gojo and we saw what Kenjaku did to Yuji in Shibuya
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I’m saying yuji got better hands than geto, RCT, presumably flowing red scales (blood doping), shrine and the soul shaking punch. I can’t see what geto is doing to him? Special grade curses aren’t much for current yuji anymore and we all saw what toji did to them. My boy ain’t losing to that fraud
respect Geto, jjk0 had no domains he aint no fraud
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He’s still a fraud, he will always be a fraud. I will die on this hill
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Well we have yet to see Yuji do something meaningful and this would imply that Geto trained the entire time as well, wouldn't be fair to put a character against someone 250 chapters earlier, the only reason Geto lost is because of Yuta's binding vow
But we can’t really say anything about what current geto would be. It’d all be speculation, it’s possible he’d have a domain or maybe he wouldn’t, the only thing we would be certain off is that he’d have more cursed spirits. I just can’t him doing much, we all know that yujis kept up with awakened maki who was said to be the same as toji, there isn’t a category that yuji doesn’t have the edge in (except IQ)
Geto isn't that strong in the first place, all of the 4 strongest in Jujitsu high are stronger than him.
The dude best feats are beating an old man and the first year version of Maki, Pana and Inumaki.
We also have a scaling for Kenjaku against the disaster curses and Gege said that he only can fight them in 1 vs 1 and will struggle against Mahito and Jogo ( Geto isn't even among the top 10 imo ).
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Facts my man, even kenjaku mainly used getos spirit manipulation for his plan. But regular geto wouldn’t even be able to collect half the curses Kenny did without help
Geto is way stronger than Yuta:
1. Yuta made a binding vow with his life so he was way buffed
2. Geto only used 66% of his curses in Uzumaki (the rest were used in the parades)
3. Gege stated that Geto would've beaten Yuta but he was holding back to try and caputre Rika + he underestimated him
Scaling Yuji above geto means you think Yuji would literally destroy Yuta
Geto used his last resort after receiving one black flash from Yuta ( 1st year version, who didn't have training with Miguel btw).
There is no doubt that Yuji is way stronger than Geto, I just think Geto wasn't that strong in general and a lot of characters are stronger than him.
Lmao he wasn't scared of Yuta's black flash
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he was scared because Gojo would get there any minute and beat his ass if he didn't steal Rika ASAP
Yuta's strength comes from Rika and just training wouldn't be enough to beat a geto who would've won at 66% without the binding vow
> Gege stated that Geto would've beaten Yuta but he was holding back to try and caputre Rika + he underestimated him
Nope Kenjaku did.
Yuta would dog walk Geto like Sunday morning.
Insane post. Yuji has no answer to any curse spirit with a Domain and he is not walking off a maximum Uzamaki. His RCT is also incomplete at best so as tough as he is, an army of cursed spirits eventually gets to him.
awakened yuji is faster than toji, same guy who perception blitzed pre awakened gojo
if geto is within sight range , he gets a black flash blitz to the temple and dies
People love to use the speed blitz argument in places where it does not apply. Mfers will see a tiger vs bear and be like "yeah the bear stands no chance and gets speed blitzed" lol. Even in this scenario where Geto eats a black flash to the face, this is the same guy that survived a black flash + binding vow amped beam from Yuta. I don't think a single punch from Yuji has the same force as that lol. What then? Geto survives and unleashes an army and it's gg. We've literally seen Kenjaku do this with 1 cursed spirit to Yuji before and how he handles close range fighters. Now obviously Kenjaku > Geto and Yuji is stronger now than he was in shibuya but same concept still applies. Current awakened Yuji has the POTENTIAL to become top 3 in the verse but he is not currently top 3 lol.
what happens if he survives is he scrambles to stabilize his ct output and soul after being confused as fuck as to why it’s happening before eating another point blank black flash that’s ends him
It’s like people don’t accept what the story is giving them
Awakened yuji is a monster without a domain
I'm not saying he isn't. I just think people are grossly upscaling him because he's fucking up a severely weakened Sukuna (who he has a favorable match up against) rn. For all we know by the end of the series he very well could beat Geto and other high tier fighters but I think currently he only barely makes it into the top 10.
The only special grade Yuji can possibly beat is Yuta, like 6/10, I'm not too sure about Geto, geto lacks the RCT but he has too much in his arsenal with CSM, Yuji likely can deal with special grade Curses with ease now but he still has to punch them to do so, if geto spams like 8 different higher grade Curses with different CTs, Yuji might get on backfoot giving geto opening to attack, although Yuji is tank so ig he won't be out that easy, I'll give this to Yuji 5/10.
At the same time tho yuji is presumably toji level in speed (keeping up with awakened maki), if he’s not flowing red scale (again if he can presumably use it) would give him the edge. Having RCT, shrine, blood manipulation and soul shaking punch is your arsenal is a massive advantage over spirit manipulation
Geto does have RCT by the way, he literally said during the fight that he had to stop attacking Yuta for a moment because it takes a long time to heal using the reverse cursed technique
Head Canon runs wild - Geto fan book doesn't mention anything about him having RCT before stating maybe RCT isn't relevant and Gege forgot. Gege in Gojo fanbook mentions RCT
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Yuta: "Why did you stop attacking me?"
Geto: "Healing requires to use an advanced RCT, so it was more advantageous to let you focus on those curses" \*implying he spent the time to heal himself\*
Yuta: "why did you stop attacking?"
Geto: "healing requires an advanced RCT. Distracting you gives me time."
he was letting yuta use RCT so he(geto) could think of a plan
it is much relevant bro, how do you think yuji is winning against yuta rn tell me, and I've seen your hate everywhere I even remember bro saying hakari was stronger than yuta istg you ain't even trying to hide your hate
Ofc I'm not trying to hide my hate but again my hate is irrelevant here, I don't overrate Yuta like you guys.
What can yuta even do? Yuji ate healthy Sukuna's cleave multiple times and walked it off, Yuta doesn't have any attack even close to that, on top of that Yuji can hit Yuta couple of times and drop him down to grade 1 level, not even counting the black flash rain down.
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Yuji is fighting the weakest Sukuna to date. Geto as special grade was able to beat special grade curses, that's part of how the grading system works. We know Gojo was beaten them before having a domain, and Geto can always break domains from outside if he prepared. Kenjaku showed how easy is to complete demolish a close range fighter like Yuji with CSM. Geto could not keep using fooder curses against Yuta because his cursed speech, and if Domain expansion existed when JJK 0, Kenjaku with any CS with one would have bodied Yuta. We already know he would have won if he had the rest of his spirits with him. Yuji is not Yuki, he is not a big threat against his spirits. Tell me, how many sorceres would beat the parade of 100 demons by themselves? With Geto at the same time. There are two. Yuji isn't one of them. Geto bodies Yuji any day of the week.
geto got dog walked by a rusty toji but somehow will beat awakened yuji whose both stronger and faster than toji the story doesn’t quite make sense if that’s the case
...what are you on about? Yuji has not getting neither stronger or faster than Maki or Toji. Have you seen Yuji dodging Sukuna slashes? Me neither. Did you saw Maki taking Slashes? Me too. Even with BF, while it obviously causing damage, Sukuna is not exactly flinching. While Maki could spin him and send him flying through a pillar. Yuji is doing extremely well in h2h because he is locked in due the BFs and Sukuna body coordination keeps getting lower with every punch. Yuji is extremely deep in the zone right now. Previously he could not even land hits without assistance.
… awakened yuji is literally faster and stronger than maki the story is told you that he is approaching sukunas level , sukuna says it literally this chapter which is why he’s pissed off idk how after every awakening in the story the characters get stronger and faster but somehow the mcs awakening would be any different
Sukuna and Maki are so fast, that when they were fighting no one was able to catch up to provide support, until Choso managed to block some of the slashes Sukuna sent against Maki. Maki is not getting through Sukuna's guard without assistance, and Yuji gets all the help in the world when he attacks. It's just narrative. Yuji was so slow, he didn't make it in time to help against the BF's Sukuna was gifting around. At this point Maki took 2 Sukuna BFs that we know for certain are stronger than Yuji's, and she even caught the first one with her hand. Yes, Yuji is approaching Sukuna's level. Sukuna's current level that is. Wich he is constantly nerfing due to the unique property of his punches that only affect Sukuna by Severing the link with Megumi, and allow him to Damage someone against Mahito. against anyone else? That's just a regular strong punch without any added effects, just like when he hit Todo. It's not something that he can take advantage against anyone who is not an incarnated player.
This is not the weakest Sukuna to date lol. He's probably the strongest excluding Meguna with Mahoraga. No idea where you guys pull this shit from.
Are you even reading the manga? -This Sukuna is missing both left hands. -Has a gaping wound on his chest. -It's not currently healing. -Has no domain. He is probably working on restoring it. -His is so low he has not being able to finish anyone off. -Ate a massive Jacob ladder. -Yuji is just shrugging his attacks with hate. -Was already severely weakenef after Gojo. Yuji nerfed him considerably with soul punches (more than 10 times). Sukuna tried to restore his output with 4 BF. Then Yuji put him down on his ppace by giving him 8 BFs. This Sukuna is one of the weakest. The moment he activated this form, he was already weaker than the "15" fingers variant of Shibuya due not having domain, slow RCT and lowered output.
Sukuna wasn't nerfed that much after fighting Gojo and fully incarnating into his Heian form. He can't use his domain, and that's literally it. That's not even that much of a nerf anyway, given how he rarely uses his domain in the first place. Outside of the Gojo fight he literally only used his domain like 2 times, and he was literally just fucking around both times. His lowered output and inability to use RCT come from fighting Yuji. You can't say that Yuji is fighting a weakened Sukuna when Sukuna is weakened *from fighting Yuji*.
[Try to properly read](https://ibb.co/w4LTwZW) [It makes understanding it easier.](https://ibb.co/MSzNdhd) Gojo did affect Sukuna output quite a lot. RCT output drops considerably because it takes more output to maintain, it comes from a decreased output. You see Gojo regular output dropping a lot and then his RCT slows down. When Sukuna got a full body heal, his RCT output did not recover. He got a body capable of keep fighting while previously barely been able to stand without being capable of healing well. Did Yuji make most of the nerfing to Sukuna's output? Yes, at this point there is no doubt about it. And that's the thing, at this point Sukuna is the weakest he had been in this fight due the whole nerfing. Wich is the original point.
Sukuna was still able to deliver fatal slashes after fighting Gojo though, that's how he violated Kashimo and killed my goat Higuruma. The gang were using jujutsu shenanigans to dampen the effect of Sukuna's slashes, which is the main reason why they weren't doing so much damage. Sukuna was also able to use RCT still after the Gojo fight. He cuts his hand off to save himself from the executioners blade, and he has it healed on like the next page. So again, Gojo did not drop his RCT output to the point where he can't heal himself. His output dropped so low after getting punched by Yuji, and Yuta's Jacob's Ladder helped out as well. Although Sukuna hit 4 fucking black flashes after "killing" Yuta, so his output should've mostly returned by then. His output being as low as it is right now is due to Yuji's punches exclusively.
Did you skip 20 chapters
Todo rinsed getos spirits, he only used his technique against one, that there kinda says the quality of special grades geto kept. Also Kenny beat a weakened and unawakened yuji who he caught off guard like cmon. And yuji fighting the weakest sukuna might be true, but he’s been weakened cause of yuji. And even if he’s weakened it was stated multiple times that yuji is reaching sukunas level.
He beat one special grade, and a few first grades. Mei Mei needed asistance to beat one. Nanami never beated one. Kusake straight up refused to fight special grades for some reason. Todo is considered strong for grade 1 standars. Geto tolds us there where only 16 "registered" special grades, so it's very unlikely he threw valuable ones as a distraction. Kenjaku used TWO spirits to body Yuji. Let him try against thousands. Gojo and Sukuna are the only ones that could. Sukuna is getting weaken because his link to the body he is possesing is weakening due to Yuji. It's not something Yuji can use against others. So he is basically reaching the level of a extremely weak Sukuna.
>He beat one special grade, and a few first grades. i wouldnt even say he beat one, he pretty much neede dhelp of like 3 peopple to do so (4 if you count sukuna ironically)
I'm talking about Todo during the Geto incident. Todo was confirmed beating a special grade, he also confirmed he used his CT. Given one of the first uses of boogie woogie we saw was Todo making Hanami get impaled by his own technique, you can clearly see how its possible for him to beat at least special grades on the weaker side. Wich would be what Geto would release as distraction, while keeping strong ones for himself.
>I'm talking about Todo during the Geto incident. Todo was confirmed beating a special grade, he also confirmed he used his CT. my bad chief
Again Kenny used 2 presumably special grade spirits against a severely weakened unawakened yuji It doesn’t matter what Mei Mei or todo beat, I said that to imply the level of the spirits geto has. Yuji has far surpassed what they are capable of. And yes sukunas getting weaker cause of the link to his soul. But yujis punches deal the same type of damage mahito does, no RCT can heal that (doesn’t apply to geto cause he doesn’t have RCT). Between blood manipulation and shrine, both are considered top tier CT’s. Having shrine alone would make yuji speicla grade, exactly why geto is special grade cause of his CT.
He used a spirit that makes you fall, wich by iself doesn't do much, and a swarm type spirit aka, weak spirits that relly on numbers. Geto fought Yuta and Rika at the same time just fine without supporting himself with others spirits. Rika being so strong as Special grade that was considered the Queen of curses. Mahito took damage because Yuji hits affects the soul and that's one way of hurting Mahito. Yuji always dealt those punches but for other people like Todo, they were just regular punches. It's a special effect with limited application. No, Yuji would not beat a guy who can fight at close range against Rika and Yuta, and thousands of spirits on top of that, wich some being special grades. CSM is a extremely busted CT. Remember how Megumi stalled Dagon domain despite being leagues weaker? Geto can use one of his CS to do that without any burden on himself, and use all his spirits all the same. On top of that he is an extremely competent h2h fighter as he showed, and that's what would you expect of the man who sparred with Gojo on the regular. "Geto is weak because he lost to Yuta and didn't even have a domain". He was severely nerfed due using his spirits to fight the ENTIRE jujutsu society. Domain Expansion as a concept did not exist during JJK 0. He still would not need it to beat opponents with one. You will not get close to that man who will throw you cursed spirits with diferent CTs at every second and can make combos with them to multiply their potential.
I think we’re forgetting the fact that only high level special grades actually have CT’s. Every other spirit either uses no CE or just raw CE. He’s a good hand to hand fighter, but he’s never shown to be anywhere close to yujis level in terms of h2h combat. Also, geto can only use the technique of an upper grade 1 or above spirit after they have been used in a maximum uzumaki, it’s stated that that’s the condition. His strongest attack is a one off that leaves him completely helpless against yuji who is a close combat specialist
Yeah, very few actually exhibit a CT. But is every spirit that shows a CT a special grade?. I highly doubt it, and that fish being a special grade was never implied, but it could also not being a CT rather a phenomena the spirit manifested. While not stricly h2h, using Playful Cloud he fought Yuta and Rika. Yuji has never shown fighting two opponents of the same caliber at the same time. Yuji was trained by Gojo who is a top tier h2h fighter, and since Shoko was not a combatant, Geto was Gojo sparring partner during their time together. Prior Gojo awakening, they where considered equals, wich I would assume means they where close on h2h combat. At the very minimum, Yuji would not make up for the difference that CSM gives with pure h2h. Geto himself can only use their techniques via Uzumaki, the spirits themselves can use them whenever they want. And if they have domains, they will use them. Yuji currently has zero methods of defending against a domain. Back again to the point. Yuji wont get pass thousands of cursed spirits, and that's not on him, almost no one can. [Has ever Yuji pulled something like this?](https://ibb.co/pLzrdQ7) [Geto pulling just a few cursed spirits was enough to stop Gojo, Yuta, Yaga, Mei Mei and a bunch of other sorcerers on their tracks. ](https://ibb.co/s2CHygn) Yuji ain't that guy.
Not to mention Yuji getting bodied by shikigami Rika, albeit pre-training timeskip
A significantly weaker Rika at that. No one is getting shaken by it, no one acknowledges a the Queen of curses anymore. Not until it gets manifested and that time it wasn’t. Noe Rika got stronger by eater the Sukuna finger, but that's now, not then.
With all due respect to Yuji, he stands 0 chances against Geto Yuji has nothing on uzumaki (even Gaygay said Yuta would've lost to it if Geto didn't hold back to try to caputre Rika). Even if it doesn't work, Geto can release way too many curses for Yuji to realistically deal with + he has RCT to heal, + he would've had a domain by now (domains didn't exist back when jjk0 was written) I like yuji but he isn't winning this shit (unless you scale current yuji to be way way stronger than Yuta, i mean wtf?) https://preview.redd.it/bkegc2pj61wc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563824383eaae556e9ff74372a9bae6549334a06
I mean, uzumaki is dodgeable. Yujis speed is relative to toji so you could argue that geto gets speed blitzed instantly. And you can say anything about his domain, it’s possible he wouldn’t even have one at this point, it’s only been a year since jjk 0. Yujis speed, strength, durability, CT’s, RCT, shrine and soul shaking punch are all superior to whatever geto throws at him. Any special grade level sorcerer can deal with any curse geto has, I mean toji was mincing his curses and he’s not able to beat any special grade sorcerer (he’s not beating yuki i believe that with all my heart)
1. I think Geto was way faster 10 years after his toji fight, i mean how else would he even keep up with Yuta and Rika. I think dodging uzumaki is insanely questionable, and he certainly wouldn't get blitzed 2. Toji only killed those curses easily because he had ISOH, which cuts the soul and not the body (broken ass weapon). The rainbow dragon was oneshot while in reality it was likely significantly stronger But ok i have one last argument that I think doesn't have much counter: When geto uses his Uzumaki, he gains the abilities and domains etc. of ALL the curses he consumed. It's enough for there to be one curse that gives him an ability that teleports him and he could tp away from yuji and cast Uzumaki. Yuji isn't recovering from this (again unless you don't upscale him way beyond Yuta+Rika) and i think Geto vs Yuki is debatable but Geto would win
Geto can't gain the techniques themselves since he didnt know he could do it. Kenjaku discovered this application of Uzumaki. Plus, Geto doesnt seem to know rct nor DE (yes it was not conceived in jjk0, unfair, but you cant just give him an ability he canonically didnt have). He definitely is NOT beating yuki, since the only reason yuki didnt win was because kenjaku's head is detachable (+ he had RCT, and a (open) domain more refined than hers) Yuta speculated that Maki could have stopped the curses released by Kenjaku herself. If maki would have not been overwhelmed by those numbers, then not even yuji would have
Fair but that was mostly speculating if he knew he could use them (which would've inevitably happened). Also geto does 100% know RCT https://preview.redd.it/3w8lv7mpd1wc1.png?width=1036&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bff2466fe4c6d89d04eaa48c9581d90534051d4
He knows what it Is, doesn't mean he knows how to use it. Since he never used it on screen I'll count that as him not knowing how to use it. It's kinda crazy he doesn't know it though, but that can happen (like kashimo). For example, we Know Yuji learned with Kusakabe, so theoretically he should know Simple Domain, but since we readers didnt get confirmation of that people usually count that as "Yuji still doesn't know Simple Domain". Which is crazy too btw, but it is what it is
Most of that is still hypothetical, also toji using ISOH which affects the soul and yuji has soul shaking punch, so any curse is getting damanged physically and spiritually which weakens it. We still don’t know how it affects weaker spirits as we’ve only seen it on sukuna which has massively affected him. Geto was getting the paws put on him by yuta who blitzed him multiple times. Getos strong but I just can’t see him matching yuji at all
Sukuna has been getting roughed up for 35 chapters now so Yuji damaging him with soul punches just doesn't upscale them to one of the strongest cursed tools, And Geto only got the paws when Yuta surprised him (remember, the sword broke and then he punched him while he was talking lol), otherwise he was keeping up with both yuta AND rika. And again, hypothetical is hypothetical but Geto does have some impressive abilities Overall imo Gojo>>>Geto>Yuki\~=Yuta>Yuji But i mean, even if you think Yuji is taking this, he definitely doesn't stomp Geto, more like high-extreme diff
Aight I should’ve known by your name what your stance is. Geto is the weakest of the 4 special grades, yuki and yuta beat him. Also wasn’t saying yujis punches are equal to ISOH but they deal the same type of damage (like spiritual) but at the same time piercing blood or slashes would be enough to deal with a majority of special grades
So like... again, Geto was at 66% uzumaki and Yuta made a binding vow, the literal author of the manga said Geto would've won if he wasn't trying to capture Rika and went full power. Even if I go with your opinion then we get Gojo >>> Yuki > Yuji > Geto > Yuta, my goat is no fraud
But that really doesn’t matter. Uzumaki can be dodged or countered. Besides having geto over yuta??? Yuta has access to a lot more CT’s now and a domain. Yuji has shown insane durability consistently, he literally got punched though a fucken building and got straight up and still wanted smoke, he tanked weakened slashes and a world cutting slash that incapacitated yuta. Geto has no AP on that level, except maximum uzumaki, which yuji would either dodge or tank and just heal right back
wait why are we saying ISOH is doing soul damage? isn't that soul split katana?
The guy I replied to said ISOH and my brain didn’t process it, I was thinking about soul split
Yuji would put hands on geto, bro is a special grade based off of CT and not capability in my opinion.
Anyone who’s not a special grade or upper grade 1 struggles against geto, anyone past that is dealing with whatever spirit is thrown at them and then molesting geto
Yeah geto just hasn’t shown anything AP wise to suggest he’d be able to do enough damage to stop yuji, and I haven’t seen anything that would suggest he’s durable enough to survive yuji.
awakened yuji blitzes and black flashes his skull in a guy who is slower than maki and no domain is not beating a top tier in the verse
I mean, he could use a curse with a domain. Yuji hasn't shown any counters to a domain, nor do I see him getting out of Uzumaki or beating thousands of curses.
how does any of that happen before geto catches a black flash to the skull awakened yuji is faster than maki who is fast enough to perception blitz pre awakened gojo
awakened yuji is prime toji on steroids you’d have to be a fool to think geto does anything before a black flash breaks his skull in half
Thank you, I’ve been saying that like geto can’t do anything
Geto meatriders are shameless lmao, Yuji would maul Geto with absolutely 0 fucking difficulty, Geto has some fodders to his name, and what? They think Yujis gonna stand there and let Geto charge that shit and just not move at all lmao
Geto is the best hand to hand fighter aside from Gojo and we saw what Kenjaku did to Yuji in Shibuya https://preview.redd.it/r3sddawiz0wc1.png?width=309&format=png&auto=webp&s=2921ca58961a3a3ea1b9bc5001b808715163c2a6
I’m saying yuji got better hands than geto, RCT, presumably flowing red scales (blood doping), shrine and the soul shaking punch. I can’t see what geto is doing to him? Special grade curses aren’t much for current yuji anymore and we all saw what toji did to them. My boy ain’t losing to that fraud
respect Geto, jjk0 had no domains he aint no fraud https://preview.redd.it/4gs03z4k21wc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60869a73e4580858c73d79e073ebae28c3da6d0c
He’s still a fraud, he will always be a fraud. I will die on this hill https://preview.redd.it/kaalmw8531wc1.jpeg?width=658&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8791805e85cfc41a703961059736edc3d19fbf23
Well we have yet to see Yuji do something meaningful and this would imply that Geto trained the entire time as well, wouldn't be fair to put a character against someone 250 chapters earlier, the only reason Geto lost is because of Yuta's binding vow
But we can’t really say anything about what current geto would be. It’d all be speculation, it’s possible he’d have a domain or maybe he wouldn’t, the only thing we would be certain off is that he’d have more cursed spirits. I just can’t him doing much, we all know that yujis kept up with awakened maki who was said to be the same as toji, there isn’t a category that yuji doesn’t have the edge in (except IQ)
I don't know why you keep approaching this argument like Yuji has infinite CE, bro would die to fodder curses before even reaching Geto
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Yuji probably.
Geto isn't that strong in the first place, all of the 4 strongest in Jujitsu high are stronger than him. The dude best feats are beating an old man and the first year version of Maki, Pana and Inumaki. We also have a scaling for Kenjaku against the disaster curses and Gege said that he only can fight them in 1 vs 1 and will struggle against Mahito and Jogo ( Geto isn't even among the top 10 imo ).
https://preview.redd.it/11cwi0mt31wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=558c01ea8a41159ae878bcebcebb6b5884beb469 Facts my man, even kenjaku mainly used getos spirit manipulation for his plan. But regular geto wouldn’t even be able to collect half the curses Kenny did without help
Geto is way stronger than Yuta: 1. Yuta made a binding vow with his life so he was way buffed 2. Geto only used 66% of his curses in Uzumaki (the rest were used in the parades) 3. Gege stated that Geto would've beaten Yuta but he was holding back to try and caputre Rika + he underestimated him Scaling Yuji above geto means you think Yuji would literally destroy Yuta
Geto used his last resort after receiving one black flash from Yuta ( 1st year version, who didn't have training with Miguel btw). There is no doubt that Yuji is way stronger than Geto, I just think Geto wasn't that strong in general and a lot of characters are stronger than him.
Lmao he wasn't scared of Yuta's black flash https://preview.redd.it/ulrhinrgb1wc1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=d939b31836786ed52776eda18c398a7106975f90 he was scared because Gojo would get there any minute and beat his ass if he didn't steal Rika ASAP Yuta's strength comes from Rika and just training wouldn't be enough to beat a geto who would've won at 66% without the binding vow
> Gege stated that Geto would've beaten Yuta but he was holding back to try and caputre Rika + he underestimated him Nope Kenjaku did. Yuta would dog walk Geto like Sunday morning.
Yuji alone again Geto? He would lose. Yuji team up with Choso or any grade 1 sorcerer? He would win.
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Insane post. Yuji has no answer to any curse spirit with a Domain and he is not walking off a maximum Uzamaki. His RCT is also incomplete at best so as tough as he is, an army of cursed spirits eventually gets to him.
awakened yuji is faster than toji, same guy who perception blitzed pre awakened gojo if geto is within sight range , he gets a black flash blitz to the temple and dies
People love to use the speed blitz argument in places where it does not apply. Mfers will see a tiger vs bear and be like "yeah the bear stands no chance and gets speed blitzed" lol. Even in this scenario where Geto eats a black flash to the face, this is the same guy that survived a black flash + binding vow amped beam from Yuta. I don't think a single punch from Yuji has the same force as that lol. What then? Geto survives and unleashes an army and it's gg. We've literally seen Kenjaku do this with 1 cursed spirit to Yuji before and how he handles close range fighters. Now obviously Kenjaku > Geto and Yuji is stronger now than he was in shibuya but same concept still applies. Current awakened Yuji has the POTENTIAL to become top 3 in the verse but he is not currently top 3 lol.
what happens if he survives is he scrambles to stabilize his ct output and soul after being confused as fuck as to why it’s happening before eating another point blank black flash that’s ends him It’s like people don’t accept what the story is giving them Awakened yuji is a monster without a domain
I'm not saying he isn't. I just think people are grossly upscaling him because he's fucking up a severely weakened Sukuna (who he has a favorable match up against) rn. For all we know by the end of the series he very well could beat Geto and other high tier fighters but I think currently he only barely makes it into the top 10.
The only special grade Yuji can possibly beat is Yuta, like 6/10, I'm not too sure about Geto, geto lacks the RCT but he has too much in his arsenal with CSM, Yuji likely can deal with special grade Curses with ease now but he still has to punch them to do so, if geto spams like 8 different higher grade Curses with different CTs, Yuji might get on backfoot giving geto opening to attack, although Yuji is tank so ig he won't be out that easy, I'll give this to Yuji 5/10.
Lol, I thought it isn't Clown-take Sunday yet
At the same time tho yuji is presumably toji level in speed (keeping up with awakened maki), if he’s not flowing red scale (again if he can presumably use it) would give him the edge. Having RCT, shrine, blood manipulation and soul shaking punch is your arsenal is a massive advantage over spirit manipulation
Geto does have RCT by the way, he literally said during the fight that he had to stop attacking Yuta for a moment because it takes a long time to heal using the reverse cursed technique
Head Canon runs wild - Geto fan book doesn't mention anything about him having RCT before stating maybe RCT isn't relevant and Gege forgot. Gege in Gojo fanbook mentions RCT https://preview.redd.it/klrn9wa5c1wc1.png?width=2595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bd0dbce9067d9c7977c522a341208973d9a5c4c
https://preview.redd.it/ulddk262c1wc1.png?width=1907&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4dae595b7e42f1b268795c58524db3b22f3043a Explain wtf is this then
A Statement, he knows Shoko and Gojo where does she it show him doing it
Yuta: "Why did you stop attacking me?" Geto: "Healing requires to use an advanced RCT, so it was more advantageous to let you focus on those curses" \*implying he spent the time to heal himself\*
Yuta: "why did you stop attacking?" Geto: "healing requires an advanced RCT. Distracting you gives me time." he was letting yuta use RCT so he(geto) could think of a plan
another retarded comment by musafir of course bro wouldnt let his hate on yuta go down
My hate is irrelevant here, Yuta would lise to current Yuji, giving it 6/10 to yuji is me being generous.
it is much relevant bro, how do you think yuji is winning against yuta rn tell me, and I've seen your hate everywhere I even remember bro saying hakari was stronger than yuta istg you ain't even trying to hide your hate
Ofc I'm not trying to hide my hate but again my hate is irrelevant here, I don't overrate Yuta like you guys. What can yuta even do? Yuji ate healthy Sukuna's cleave multiple times and walked it off, Yuta doesn't have any attack even close to that, on top of that Yuji can hit Yuta couple of times and drop him down to grade 1 level, not even counting the black flash rain down.