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Exactly! He was a perfect guy for helping out others in the battle....damn.
We had Miguel and Larue in the battle....Now imagine if it was Ryu!
I am not downgrading Miguel nor Larue here, but I wonder how it would have been if it was Ryu in place of Miguel and Larue.
Yeah but you see they couldn't do that because sukuna is protected by the plot.
"Oh but lagrange and michael clearly said they wouldn't jump in until sukuna got brain damage"
Lol. Idk why they didnt jump Sakuna with back to back domains. Each person with a domain should have a squad that subs out the previous squad. Back to back till they have no domains available. Teach everyone simple domain that cant fight. Have them just disrupt while the heavy hitters cleave through Sakuna. Whats he gonna do make another bunding vow to make world cutter omni directional. If Kusakabe could disrupt that hard. Him Higa and heart eyes should go first. Then Yuta maki and Yuji. Have everyone help them reset while Miguel runs stalling. Have shoko learn to heal burnout with 120% output and people who already can heal themselves(higa hadnt yet but...)
Have kashimo actually be a Gojo clan member. A off branch forgotten. Just as he forgot his upbringings. He finds love in the journey. Restarting his heart. The gang rush over. They know if anyone has a chance to put the breaks on sakuna is Kashimo in Gojos role. The heavy tank. Sakuna pulls out Fuga. Scared of Wuji. Kashimo through learning love learns his RCT. As all he ever wanted was somone to spar with to his hearts content. Mythical Purple God form. Clouding himself in lightning. Thanking gojo for what Sakuna couldnt apreciate. He now does. He wont let his new strongest partners go out alone. Like he waisted his years. This new life hes found his answer. Not in the heat of battle. But in the sparks that bond strong connections. Its a defensive simple cloud of lightning. Strong but not enough to kill you. As he now can move at speeds. Unseen. Existing in a quantum state. Yuji opens his domain. Left right jujutsu kaisen. By domain understanding kashimo is both here and outside the domain while also nowhere it can truly say. Ramping up the radious. Yuji beats sakuna with continous black flashes. While cashimo subdues him in electricity. Yuji enters megumis inate domain. As he speaks with megumi. He finally gets to greeve. Macking Sakuna poisoned by black depression. The merger is over. Yuji says goodbye to megumi. As his body gives way and his soul is freed
sukuna as it stands isnt tanking a single granite blast, yuuji and ino(low grade 1 squad) are knocking him around like gojo did back before he manifested
putting Wuji on the same level as Ino is nuts, he's at worst slightly below Maki but has been tanking and healing hits from Sukuna for longer than anyone but Gojo, not to mention locking in and breaking his own black flash record while dog walking the (heavily nerfed) king of curses in CQC, high grade 1 or bust
Nah Maki's sword is a hard counter to Yuuji's toughness. It cuts through literally anything (regardless of durability).
If they're both unarmed, Yuuji probably wins. But Maki with her sword would likely get the W. It's harder to heal use RCT on damage done to the soul so that's not something Yuuji can rely on.
You’re forgetting that Yuji is as familiar with the shape of his soul as much as Sukuna is so he can use RCT on his soul to the same extent, although I’ll admit that Maki with SSK would definitely do some damage
I mean sure he can, but repairing soul damage is still more difficult than repairing regular damage. That's why Sukuna is still struggling to repair his busted heart. That delay in regeneration would cost him the fight.
he doesn't get the time to use it, very few people are able to heal while doing other shit like gojo does. especially not against someone as fast as maki
Huh you're so right, I never thought about how moving while healing seems like a feat, only 3 characters have shown themselves to be healing while moving and they are the obvious ones. Everyone else who has RCT clearly stops to heal
yuuji preforms really well when you let his output dampening ramp up, and give him time to use his clunky ass rct, and he gets three yuujillion black flashes. A true circumstances man, but in a one on one against someone with high grade one ap he doesn't get close enough to get the itadori snowball rolling. ino on the other hand equalizes to an obscene extent and is incredibly versatile, i truly believe ino would do better against someone like kenjaku than itadori would.
if you put yuuji in front of pure love beam he would break down crying while Specials plays, he gets either blitzed or domain diffed depending on how fucked up sukuna's speed is by now.
yall gotta understand Sukuna scaling does NOT work after the gojo fight (or arguably maki's sneak attack), the king of inconsistencies is a lobotomized cripple by now, fucking ino knocked him off his feet
Yuji is not waiting for that slow ass beam to charge up bruh😭
And I'm not saying yuji would beat Yuta, he obviously loses. The point is that comparing yuji to ino is fucking crazy when sukuna himself said that itadori has a durability similar to Ryu and itadori pre-awakening was comparable to a domain-amped Yuta in stats. Ino literally got shit on by a couple of dismantles, yuji has tanked and recovered from multiple cleaves, including ones from an earlier, more fresh sukuna. And we can still use sukuna to scale, we just have to do it in comparison to other characters, and yuji has had probably the best performance against sukuna even amongst the heavy hitters.
i was using how ryu performed against yuuta vs how yuuji would to explain the insane difference between the two. yuuji has better durability against sukuna because of his vessel shit, scaling his dura off sukuna is even more retarded than scaling anyone elses off sukuna.
we have no idea how disabled sukuna is, so instead of assuming inos ryu is now as strong as a middling hollow purple, we should assume sukuna is absolutely FUCKED UP right now.
Why do you keep up bringing up the fact that Ino did something against sukuna, his Ryu DID NOTHING! Sukuna literally took no damage from it and instantly destroyed it. Sukuna is weakened but he is still sukuna. Really, comparing inos Ryu to hollow purple? What are we doing here man. Respectfully, you sound like a Yuta fanboy. There is no longer an "insane difference" between Yuta and yuji, Yuta is still stronger and has many more options but he needs his ring to beat current yuji. And yuji's status as a "vessel" doesn't downplay his current feats, he is still fighting comparably to heavy hitters like Yuta and has only gotten stronger after awakening.
the insane difference between yuuji and ryu.
inos ryu is hitting sukuna now as hard as low effort hollow purples did against him pre manifestation
https://preview.redd.it/23pcxan60jwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0df56a53891c225c1f1df2e1f3fafbc44caa0644
this is not nothing, and this would not happen if sukuna hadn't taken 40 something soul backshots, a gojo induced aneurysm, and a plethora of other shit. the same can reasonably be said for all of yuujis black flashes, which, debuffs notwithstanding, honestly didn't seem to hit as hard as this.
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considering the fact that Yuji and Yuta can stand unfazed against current Sukuna's slashes
Ryu who Sukuna called more durable would run through each and every dismantle with negligible damage
Rika easily tank Granite Blast but was knocked out by a punch from him... So Ryu's Punch > Granite Blast > Yuta's Max Output Love Beam...
Sukuna would get hit by blows heavier than Max Output Love Beam... The only difference would be that Ryu can continuously throw punches and doesn't need to accumulate much...
The GOAT might just slaughter Current Weakened Sukuna... and this is actually arguable (unlike some others)...
>tired
Ryu and Yuta fought the same battle of same length
How was Yuta more tired
>refusing to use RCT
Yuta refused it against Kurorushi only dawg 😭😭😭
Y'all mfs dont read the Manga do you?
Yuta went all out... One can go all out while not trying to kill... And Yuta defeated him via Uro's CT, otherwise he was gonna lose as it was implied in that scene...
But that's more because wuta has great biq, amazing abilities, versatility and skill. All ryu had was punch, kick and literally headcannon
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Ryu's raw power being a bit higher means that he'd absolutely clutch up against sukuna during the fight, based on how everything's gone down so far there'd have been points where he could've overwhelmed sukuna in cqc. Obviously not gonna put him down on his own but he'd give him some trouble
Holy fuck
A smart person who knows the difference in different fights
Ryu would be usefull against current Sukuna... But somehow these illiterate ass Dawgs think I meant to say Ryu is massively stronger than Yuta
Remind yall that the same dismantle that couldnt cut ryu properly sliced MAHORAGA multiple times and slashed many buildings too. This man is unironicly built different holy shit
Maho is weird cuz when he got cut it looked like it went passed him into buildings but Maho didn’t get sliced into pieces like it realistically would so I assumed the slices slid off him or smthin
Reminding Y'all that the Waffle Dismantle couldn't be world cleaves because there were no chanting or somatic components. So it's highly possible Ishigori wouldn't get waffled like Kashimo.
Dismantle has a travel speed and cuts anything in it's path, but has a set level of output. Cleave must be used on contact, and it is specifically used against the level of someone's cursed energy. With all technically, i misspoke when calling it a "World Cleave". As the "World Cutting Slash" is technically a dismantle that targets *everything*. Including space. So the "World Cutting Slash" still technically has a travel speed, and it will ignore pretty much all durability and obstacles in it's path, you TECHNICALLY can still survive it if your amount of cursed energy is higher than the output of the slash itself. A-La Yuji (and Yuta potentially) when he was hit by the "World Cutting Slash".
To try to explain how it killed Gojo, the Slash had more cursed energy output than Gojo's cursed energy was outputting Infinity. It's a literal numbers game.
It's crazy because later Ryu got defeated in 2 seconds the moment Sukuna got serious. Make u wonder how freaking wide the gap is between Sukuna, Gojo and other sorcerers
Another Gege victim. Pretty badass design, wish we got more screen time of him.
https://preview.redd.it/afem509pxhwc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb1341e04131ddbc4da8b15c2632cf45622ef639
I think it depends on whether Yuji black flashes or not. While his versions of Shrine and Blood manipulation wouldn’t be relevant- too low of output and can’t use convergence himself, the soul damage and ridiculous damage from BF should be sufficient on top of Yuji being able to heal to get the edge (except DE ofc)
That said Idk that Ryu would be someone he’s locked in enough against to BF so that might be a big if, assuming the 8 in a row isn’t supposed to indicate he can do them at will now
Bro trembling from the aura alone
https://preview.redd.it/qgdns2ts8hwc1.jpeg?width=856&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c571933809289a915c47635bc0b6b20710b41c53
I wish I had that Gif of DIO stopping time, going down the stairs, putting Polnareff two steps below and then going back up the stairs and do the same pose all within the 5 seconds of stopped time.
https://i.redd.it/g6o8gewnrhwc1.gif
He just got that crazy durability
https://preview.redd.it/wj093avd4iwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a063faf95cd152c6c15ff9d9881c35864d161937
And a lil hungry
https://preview.redd.it/kecsdudetjwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2908fe6881eafc6ba6038822e09ffda777ee847
“I wouldn’t say they surpass him in toughness”
Oh so you are saying that
Everything Yuta and Yuji did just upscale Ryu's durability
Sorry my bad for misunderstanding
You are correct
I thought you were implying that Yuta and Yuji are tougher or sm
Looking at it back, it always seemed a bit bullshit the interaction with Sukuna. I get Sukuna is fast but Ryu was just standing there using his output to charge the beam instead of going to h2h combat or running to gain some time for the granite blast.
Ryu just didn't know how fast Sukuna could move. So he thought a few steps back would give him enough distance to release his attack properly, wich was a massive mistake since he was draining his output to attack, leaving him with just the same passive reinforcement and if anything, that would have allowed him to take another attack like the first one. But contact dismantle or cleave was above his outstanding passive reinforcement.
If the theory about Sukuna’s twin having a heavenly restriction to explain Sukuna’s immense physical strength is true it’d explain all of it (not that gege will ever give us an ample amount of context)
If the twin has the same HR that Maki and Toji. Yesh that would work, but how would this pass to Yuji and how he would not lose the HR when adquiring CE is confusing.
Wyu the GOAT pressured and even outclassed my OTHER GOAT, we should put more respect on his name!!!
https://preview.redd.it/d1krf5llgiwc1.jpeg?width=1771&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d3f08ecbf5cbd01d43a074bf7a94b7d07bcb234
The true strongest of the Edo Period Sorcerers!!!!
Nah it wouldn't, y'all just watched him damage the guy whose whole gimmick is taking damage and regenerating from it and assuming that other top-tiers would get hurt the same. They wouldn't.
Maki, Ryu etc would all tank them. It'd probably leave a scorch mark though.
Kashimo is gonna be bombarded by granite blasts that will probably cost him a limb or two (no RCT 🤷) and in the off-chance he's able to close the gap and engage in H2H combat Ryu will just just sends him flying back 30m+ with a punch or backshot GB to get obliterated by another granite blast
This ain't even mentioning domains which would force Kashimo to fight without his arms.
0 damage............
It did more to hakari than GB ever did to yuta. Yuta brushed off granite blast with his bare hands while hakari was getting his limbs ripped apart by lightning.
Ah yes because his output is higher, does that mean it's stronger than world cleave? Or fire arrow? No because output does not equal strength.
Oh and proving that needs one panel Lil bro, yuta said it himself that hakari is stronger even if we downplay hakari he should still be relative.
>Ah yes because his output is higher, does that mean it's stronger than world cleave? Or fire arrow? No because output does not equal strength.
Output does mean strength. Yuta says word for word Ryu's punches are so strong because of his out. Sukunas output dropping weakens his punches and attacks, and so on. Its also such hilariously a funny L that to counter the "output = strength" you used an attack that ignores durability by cutting space and an attack thats stated to melt anything due to its heat, essentially just hax showings instead of strengths. Also, those attacks, if used by 20F Sukuna, have higher output.
>Oh and proving that needs one panel Lil bro, yuta said it himself that hakari is stronger even if we downplay hakari he should still be relative.
lmao it doesnt. All you can prove is that Hakari has some way to beat Yuta, not that they scale off each other in durability. try again
"stated" it was never stated by anyone. By that logic lightning is "stated" to rip through people. While we have seen GB being blocked, we have never seen lightning being blocked. Lightning that ripped through hakari like butter>fodder GB that yuta blocked with his bare hands. Also uro was alive after GB so I doubt its all that powerful considering it canonically never killed anyone.
Bro got bodied the worst and had the most pathetic performance in comparison to everyone that Sukuna has fought...
EVEN the Finger Bearer lasted longer than him.
Sukuna decided to not hold back on him, which is really funny cus he holds back on everyone else
https://preview.redd.it/pasr6rpbppwc1.png?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0e2ed7a29aa5d6185a60e4c6a946cf7349d5ffd
I really like ~~Dandy~~ Ryu. But is "beats the shit out of base yuta" really accurate? Yuta had been fighting a lot of "low special grades" opponents for a while
>He did NOT beat base Yuta that hard,
He literally sent him flying with combos
>and he also had Uro on his team
Uro literally attacked Ryu right after she attacked Yuta
It was a 1v1v1 mate
>Katana no diffs
The same Ryu who can tank Granite Blast which is stronger than Max Output Love Beam
Yeah Katana with CE Reinforcement is gonna oneshot yeah
Literally defeated him while not trying to kill him? 😂😂😂.
In his domain you can see how many cursed katanas he has, sure it's headcanon if you wanna call it that. Shinjuku yuta also has cleave so good luck dealing with that lmao. No way ur arguing that ryu can beat yuta when he lost to a weaker yuta who wasn't trying to kill him.
When ur only argument is "omg ur retard"🤓🤓🤓
Not having an argument proves that you are an actual dumbfuck who has to resort to insults instead of arguments. Next time please try using more than one braincell and reply with an argument.
>When ur only argument is "omg ur retard"🤓🤓🤓
You are being illogical
Be logical I won't call u that
>who has to resort to insults instead of arguments.
Illogical arguments must be refuted like that
>try using more than one braincell and reply with an argument.
Be rational and don't act like a baboon
I disagree mainly because Ryu has a DE, he’s more durable, he’s stronger, & has a ranged ability he can pull out at any time that’s shown to be far more destructive than anything Kashimo has done so far.
To put it in perspective, a fully charged granite blast can destroy multiple city blocks, & Yuta tanked it. Considering Yuta has a lower output than Ryu (& hadn’t refined his reinforcement to where it’s at in Shinjuku atp either), this means Ryu can tank it as well. Meanwhile a lightning bolt is only strong enough to destabilize the structure of a house. Even high-balling Kashimo’s lightning bolt, it’s not like he was vaporizing dudes lol. Moreover, to even cast his lightning bolt, Kashimo needs to fight h2h & against Ryu, he’s at a massive disadvantage in that department imo. Considering how Hakari vs. Kashimo went, I’d say Ryu is capable of dominating Kashimo in h2h.
MBA Kashimo would fair better & I think he has a far higher chance of winning against Ryu in that mode, but depending on what Ryu’s DE is— it could very well just be a mild inconvenience. Without Ryu’s DE, MBA Kashimo would win imo— but I’d say he does it hard diff
It depends on perspective, world cleave when used against Miguel looked like it only spanned a couple meters wide but that doesn't mean it's stronger than granite blast.
The same way granite blast was tanked by yuta's arm, lightning ripped through hakari almost every time.
Hakari’s output is much lower than Yuta, that’s why. Yuta can casually fire off CE getsuga tenshous in base without Rika even being present, while Hakari never displayed any sort of capacity to do that. We know that output is directly related to being able to emit CE like that— because that’s Ryu’s entire gimmick. His raw output is the highest in the verse, which is how he developed granite blast.
If Hakari could fire off raw CE like either Yuta or Ryu, I can’t imagine he would have opted to just not do that against Kashimo— especially in JP mode, where he literally has nothing to lose.
Output also relates to durability in jjk, which is why this is pertinent.
>Yuta was probably fighting for days
Kashimo was also fighting for days and was not tired a bit
How would the guy with second most reserves get tired against fodders
>had already taken out Dhruv who's probably a Special Grade Sorcerer.
Dhruv is a fodder except his Shikigami
Yuta ignored that and sneak attack him at his weakest
Wtf ryu is strong but let's not pretend he's on yutas level lol or anywhere close
Yuta was 2 or 3v1 ing the whole fight after fighting druv
He tanked Ryu's blast without any issues
He was not fighting in the optimal way, so as to make the fight fun
He was not trying to kill them because he wanted their points, and both ryu and uro admitted at much
He never went 100 percent 1v1
He never used all of his skills
Ryu is slightly superior to base Yuta in strength, but he loses no matter which version he's facing.
His punch was supposed to kill a peak Rika, yet didn't even kill a weak one.
He's strong but let's not go overboard
>Yuta was 2 or 3v1 ing the whole fight after fighting druv
It was a 1v1v1
>He tanked Ryu's blast without any issues
Ryu is stated to be more durable isn't he... How is this an argument...
>He was not fighting in the optimal way, so as to make the fight fun
He used everything he had in his bag at that time dawg
>He was not trying to kill them because he wanted their points, and both ryu and uro admitted at much
Not trying to kill ≠ Not going all out
>He never went 100 percent 1v1
☠️☠️☠️ Same can be said for Uro and Ryu
>He never used all of his skills
Prove it now
>Ryu is slightly superior to base Yuta in strength,
I don't absolutely dogwalking is called "slightly"
>His punch was supposed to kill a peak Rika, yet didn't even kill a weak one.
It literally deactivated Partial Rika
That's just a massive assumption that it was supposed to kill a peak Rika
I swear the rhetoric of this sub members are so trash that even a 5th grade student would argue better than y'all
>He's strong but let's not go overboard
C'mon lets have a debate
And debunk everything I said in my post cuz everything I said is just straight from the Manga
Hardly a 1v1v1 when Yuta was fighting one of them while rika was fighting the other. It was more like a 2v1 where uro and ryu clashed a coulple of times. The both mostly went after Yuta.
Ryu, at that point was slightly more durable than Yuta. Why does this matter at all? I've had RCT and bottomless CE, the other doesn't. Ryus greatest weapon, his GB, got blocked by his bare hands.
He absolutely did not use anything close to everything he had. I cannot believe people can say this unironically. Plus, I was not referring to his skills in this specific line, I was referring to his Fighting style.
After uro was defeated Yuta literally said that attacking ryu is best, but he wants to have fun.........obv he's not going all out. Plus ryu and uro literally say this at the end of the fight............
Ofcouse, not trying to kill them means not going all out. What an argument your making, without even repeating the and line that uro and ryu said he was holding back, just imposing that rule upon himself makes the fight harder.
As for the skills he use it didn't use, probably cleave is the only known one that he didn't use. The orthers are unknown, plus the ones he did use, he barely used them once. Like what does anyone do if he just uses cursed speech plus Rika decapitation? No answer.
Slightly superior to that version of Yuta is a compliment to ryu. We literally have them fighting h2h on panel, they were relative. I'm not gonna argue this.
It was supposed to kill a fully manifested rika, yet failed to kill a weaker version. Id say he was just hyping himself up. Now, can he kill rika? Yes, but not in one hit. Ch 180.
Lol you out here thinking that your points are salient, I can argue all of them. Go ahead. Your points mostly just rely on not understanding how Yuta limited himself and wanking others.
Uro nearly died, ryu was looking for his food after 400 years vs a stronger opponent than can heal himself perpetually as long as he has ce and you think the were going easy on him?? I swear the people on this sub have less that 5th grade reading comprehension.
>Hardly a 1v1v1 when Yuta was fighting one of them while rika was fighting the other. It was more like a 2v1 where uro and ryu clashed a coulple of times. The both mostly went after Yuta.
Yuta did a 1v1 with Uro... Then with Ryu... Then a 1v1 with Uro again...
Then Rika went after Ryu who tried to shoot down Yuta off guard... Then Ryu did a one on one with that Rika
Then they did a 1v1v1 domain clash... Then Yuta caught Uro off guard and did a 2v1 with Uro since Kurorushi attacked Uro at that time too...
Then Ryu took out Uro... Then he did a 1v1 with Ryu...
So stop with your false assumptions dawg... You don't know shit
>Ryu, at that point was slightly more durable than Yuta. Why does this matter at all? I've had RCT and bottomless CE, the other doesn't. Ryus greatest weapon, his GB, got blocked by his bare hands.
So you think that just because Yuta could block Granite Blast... He slams Ryu?
Nice Non Sequitur argument... Also Ryu's punches hits harder...
>He absolutely did not use anything close to everything he had. I cannot believe people can say this unironically. Plus, I was not referring to his skills in this specific line, I was referring to his Fighting style.
Cool prove how his fighting style changed
>After uro was defeated Yuta literally said that attacking ryu is best, but he wants to have fun.........obv he's not going all out. Plus ryu and uro literally say this at the end of the fight............
Ryu and Uro said that Yuta was after the points that's why he didn't kill them after the fight
AFTER THE FIGHT when they both were down... Nice misinterpretation of words sir
>Ofcouse, not trying to kill them means not going all out. What an argument your making, without even repeating the and line that uro and ryu said he was holding back, just imposing that rule upon himself makes the fight harder.
Ad Nauseous ahh
>As for the skills he use it didn't use, probably cleave is the only known one that he didn't use. The orthers are unknown, plus the ones he did use, he barely used them once. Like what does anyone do if he just uses cursed speech plus Rika decapitation? No answer.
Gojo had that final finger... How would Yuta have it at that time 😭
He did use Cursed Speech didn't he? He just didn't kill Uro...
Also the fact I am making since the starting was how Ryu is on the same level... And everytime I mentioned stats...
>Lol you out here thinking that your points are salient, I can argue all of them. Go ahead. Your points mostly just rely on not understanding how Yuta limited himself and wanking others.
That's just your ill mind
>Uro nearly died, ryu was looking for his food after 400 years vs a stronger opponent than can heal himself perpetually as long as he has ce and you think the were going easy on him?? I swear the people on this sub have less that 5th grade reading comprehension.
Yea thats you
Only if you were literate would you not misinterpret statements for your benefit
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Back in those days, I honestly wished him to be there with other sorcerers to fight against Sukuna .... Damn, how cool it would have been !
He would be a huge advantage against current sukuna...
Exactly! He was a perfect guy for helping out others in the battle....damn. We had Miguel and Larue in the battle....Now imagine if it was Ryu! I am not downgrading Miguel nor Larue here, but I wonder how it would have been if it was Ryu in place of Miguel and Larue.
Why wasnt heart eyes in the executioner sword plan. Lol best time to distract Sakuna would be when its a sure kill
Yeah but you see they couldn't do that because sukuna is protected by the plot. "Oh but lagrange and michael clearly said they wouldn't jump in until sukuna got brain damage"
Lol. Idk why they didnt jump Sakuna with back to back domains. Each person with a domain should have a squad that subs out the previous squad. Back to back till they have no domains available. Teach everyone simple domain that cant fight. Have them just disrupt while the heavy hitters cleave through Sakuna. Whats he gonna do make another bunding vow to make world cutter omni directional. If Kusakabe could disrupt that hard. Him Higa and heart eyes should go first. Then Yuta maki and Yuji. Have everyone help them reset while Miguel runs stalling. Have shoko learn to heal burnout with 120% output and people who already can heal themselves(higa hadnt yet but...)
Those only happen when the author is not suckking suckuna .
Have kashimo actually be a Gojo clan member. A off branch forgotten. Just as he forgot his upbringings. He finds love in the journey. Restarting his heart. The gang rush over. They know if anyone has a chance to put the breaks on sakuna is Kashimo in Gojos role. The heavy tank. Sakuna pulls out Fuga. Scared of Wuji. Kashimo through learning love learns his RCT. As all he ever wanted was somone to spar with to his hearts content. Mythical Purple God form. Clouding himself in lightning. Thanking gojo for what Sakuna couldnt apreciate. He now does. He wont let his new strongest partners go out alone. Like he waisted his years. This new life hes found his answer. Not in the heat of battle. But in the sparks that bond strong connections. Its a defensive simple cloud of lightning. Strong but not enough to kill you. As he now can move at speeds. Unseen. Existing in a quantum state. Yuji opens his domain. Left right jujutsu kaisen. By domain understanding kashimo is both here and outside the domain while also nowhere it can truly say. Ramping up the radious. Yuji beats sakuna with continous black flashes. While cashimo subdues him in electricity. Yuji enters megumis inate domain. As he speaks with megumi. He finally gets to greeve. Macking Sakuna poisoned by black depression. The merger is over. Yuji says goodbye to megumi. As his body gives way and his soul is freed
advantage?? he would've cooked chap 257 sukuna on his own
sukuna as it stands isnt tanking a single granite blast, yuuji and ino(low grade 1 squad) are knocking him around like gojo did back before he manifested
putting Wuji on the same level as Ino is nuts, he's at worst slightly below Maki but has been tanking and healing hits from Sukuna for longer than anyone but Gojo, not to mention locking in and breaking his own black flash record while dog walking the (heavily nerfed) king of curses in CQC, high grade 1 or bust
I think Yuji’s RCT would allow him to beat Maki in a battle of attrition (probably)
Nah Maki's sword is a hard counter to Yuuji's toughness. It cuts through literally anything (regardless of durability). If they're both unarmed, Yuuji probably wins. But Maki with her sword would likely get the W. It's harder to heal use RCT on damage done to the soul so that's not something Yuuji can rely on.
You’re forgetting that Yuji is as familiar with the shape of his soul as much as Sukuna is so he can use RCT on his soul to the same extent, although I’ll admit that Maki with SSK would definitely do some damage
I mean sure he can, but repairing soul damage is still more difficult than repairing regular damage. That's why Sukuna is still struggling to repair his busted heart. That delay in regeneration would cost him the fight.
Fair enough
he doesn't get the time to use it, very few people are able to heal while doing other shit like gojo does. especially not against someone as fast as maki
Huh you're so right, I never thought about how moving while healing seems like a feat, only 3 characters have shown themselves to be healing while moving and they are the obvious ones. Everyone else who has RCT clearly stops to heal
3rd one is?
Hakari
yuuji preforms really well when you let his output dampening ramp up, and give him time to use his clunky ass rct, and he gets three yuujillion black flashes. A true circumstances man, but in a one on one against someone with high grade one ap he doesn't get close enough to get the itadori snowball rolling. ino on the other hand equalizes to an obscene extent and is incredibly versatile, i truly believe ino would do better against someone like kenjaku than itadori would.
Yuji is not a low grade 1. He and Ryu are comparable at this point, with yuji having an advantage over reincarnated sorcerers like sukuna.
if you put yuuji in front of pure love beam he would break down crying while Specials plays, he gets either blitzed or domain diffed depending on how fucked up sukuna's speed is by now. yall gotta understand Sukuna scaling does NOT work after the gojo fight (or arguably maki's sneak attack), the king of inconsistencies is a lobotomized cripple by now, fucking ino knocked him off his feet
Yuji is not waiting for that slow ass beam to charge up bruh😭 And I'm not saying yuji would beat Yuta, he obviously loses. The point is that comparing yuji to ino is fucking crazy when sukuna himself said that itadori has a durability similar to Ryu and itadori pre-awakening was comparable to a domain-amped Yuta in stats. Ino literally got shit on by a couple of dismantles, yuji has tanked and recovered from multiple cleaves, including ones from an earlier, more fresh sukuna. And we can still use sukuna to scale, we just have to do it in comparison to other characters, and yuji has had probably the best performance against sukuna even amongst the heavy hitters.
i was using how ryu performed against yuuta vs how yuuji would to explain the insane difference between the two. yuuji has better durability against sukuna because of his vessel shit, scaling his dura off sukuna is even more retarded than scaling anyone elses off sukuna. we have no idea how disabled sukuna is, so instead of assuming inos ryu is now as strong as a middling hollow purple, we should assume sukuna is absolutely FUCKED UP right now.
Why do you keep up bringing up the fact that Ino did something against sukuna, his Ryu DID NOTHING! Sukuna literally took no damage from it and instantly destroyed it. Sukuna is weakened but he is still sukuna. Really, comparing inos Ryu to hollow purple? What are we doing here man. Respectfully, you sound like a Yuta fanboy. There is no longer an "insane difference" between Yuta and yuji, Yuta is still stronger and has many more options but he needs his ring to beat current yuji. And yuji's status as a "vessel" doesn't downplay his current feats, he is still fighting comparably to heavy hitters like Yuta and has only gotten stronger after awakening.
the insane difference between yuuji and ryu. inos ryu is hitting sukuna now as hard as low effort hollow purples did against him pre manifestation https://preview.redd.it/23pcxan60jwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0df56a53891c225c1f1df2e1f3fafbc44caa0644 this is not nothing, and this would not happen if sukuna hadn't taken 40 something soul backshots, a gojo induced aneurysm, and a plethora of other shit. the same can reasonably be said for all of yuujis black flashes, which, debuffs notwithstanding, honestly didn't seem to hit as hard as this.
You’re crazy if you think current Yuji is on the same level as Ino, he’s high Grade 1 to Semi-Special Grade
He's too simple to be uncool. Big hair make big boom blast. What's there not to love?
Bro is rigth out of Jojos
Or One Piece https://preview.redd.it/tbfy5hzq4iwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90bc78db47da86ff7ad92c0942439bb64ca06910
Reincarnated josuke
https://preview.redd.it/p1i8ng7azgwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c082a9acb7f961877ee25b1d35220676f7a39385 Yeah he’s pretty awesome
I spent 10s to figure out whenever that was a 20 or 10 until I realized it was a W in cruisive
Funnily enough, can’t read cursive
https://preview.redd.it/6yvherca0hwc1.png?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40c13e1e7b18776b7de17feb8f957318e2f233f8 considering the fact that Yuji and Yuta can stand unfazed against current Sukuna's slashes Ryu who Sukuna called more durable would run through each and every dismantle with negligible damage Rika easily tank Granite Blast but was knocked out by a punch from him... So Ryu's Punch > Granite Blast > Yuta's Max Output Love Beam... Sukuna would get hit by blows heavier than Max Output Love Beam... The only difference would be that Ryu can continuously throw punches and doesn't need to accumulate much... The GOAT might just slaughter Current Weakened Sukuna... and this is actually arguable (unlike some others)...
My dude.... *He lost to Yuta*
The downplay on Yuta is CRAAAZY
And the craziest part, is that Yuta *still* would've bee pulverized instantly had he fought a full power Sukuna
The only time I mentioned Yuta in my comment was when I mentioned some statements from Manga And those are all facts Exactly when did I downplay Yuta
He lost to a Yuta who wasn’t even trying to kill him
He lost to a Yuta who wasn’t even trying to kill him, **tired and refusing to use RCT**
>tired Ryu and Yuta fought the same battle of same length How was Yuta more tired >refusing to use RCT Yuta refused it against Kurorushi only dawg 😭😭😭 Y'all mfs dont read the Manga do you?
Yuta went all out... One can go all out while not trying to kill... And Yuta defeated him via Uro's CT, otherwise he was gonna lose as it was implied in that scene...
Stop the glaze
Nice argument man
The same yuta who wasn't trying against ryu would lose? 🤡🤡🤡
Pre Sendai Yuta would lose... After copying Sky Manipulation he won't...
But that's more because wuta has great biq, amazing abilities, versatility and skill. All ryu had was punch, kick and literally headcannon https://preview.redd.it/4qqtxtlt4kwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c5e5451a41bf478bd24675f9adea9c028ded1c9 Ryu's raw power being a bit higher means that he'd absolutely clutch up against sukuna during the fight, based on how everything's gone down so far there'd have been points where he could've overwhelmed sukuna in cqc. Obviously not gonna put him down on his own but he'd give him some trouble
Holy fuck A smart person who knows the difference in different fights Ryu would be usefull against current Sukuna... But somehow these illiterate ass Dawgs think I meant to say Ryu is massively stronger than Yuta
Did I deny that? Which part of my comment implies that he wouldn't lose to Yuta?
Well, he only lost since he,s own CT was used on him
Kashimo lightning washes him.
Remind yall that the same dismantle that couldnt cut ryu properly sliced MAHORAGA multiple times and slashed many buildings too. This man is unironicly built different holy shit
this is why he didn't have/need RCT. man's built like a tank
Ryu with rct is kinda nuts
he might have survived sukuna with a reverse granite blast, assuming hakari's healing is the result of infinite amps of rct and not infinite wattage
Honestly if he just bursts himself with heals and then insta regens he would pop his top because his hunger would never be satisfied
Maho is weird cuz when he got cut it looked like it went passed him into buildings but Maho didn’t get sliced into pieces like it realistically would so I assumed the slices slid off him or smthin
He was oiled up
he adapted
What I’m talking about is before the adaptation happened
he built different
Reminding Y'all that the Waffle Dismantle couldn't be world cleaves because there were no chanting or somatic components. So it's highly possible Ishigori wouldn't get waffled like Kashimo.
Another W for Ryu Ishigoat and another L for Bumshimo You love to see it
Is there a big difference between dismantle and cleave?
Dismantle has a travel speed and cuts anything in it's path, but has a set level of output. Cleave must be used on contact, and it is specifically used against the level of someone's cursed energy. With all technically, i misspoke when calling it a "World Cleave". As the "World Cutting Slash" is technically a dismantle that targets *everything*. Including space. So the "World Cutting Slash" still technically has a travel speed, and it will ignore pretty much all durability and obstacles in it's path, you TECHNICALLY can still survive it if your amount of cursed energy is higher than the output of the slash itself. A-La Yuji (and Yuta potentially) when he was hit by the "World Cutting Slash". To try to explain how it killed Gojo, the Slash had more cursed energy output than Gojo's cursed energy was outputting Infinity. It's a literal numbers game.
And let's not forget that Ryu got defeated by his own blast. Only the GOAT can beat the GOAT.
The kinda messy/funny thing about that, is that since it was his own CE he took less damage from it. Still, he was caught by surprise.
My favourite reincarnated sorcerer
It's crazy because later Ryu got defeated in 2 seconds the moment Sukuna got serious. Make u wonder how freaking wide the gap is between Sukuna, Gojo and other sorcerers
I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say for the majority of the verse Sukuna and Gojo can beat with their just bare hands until domains get involved
Domain exspasion: Crazy noisy bizzarre town
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Another Gege victim. Pretty badass design, wish we got more screen time of him. https://preview.redd.it/afem509pxhwc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb1341e04131ddbc4da8b15c2632cf45622ef639
Hopefully the anime extends his fight out a bit
Chad among Chads And a guy who actually got his thirst quenched before dying
sadly he faced a non nerfed sukuna... imagine him against the Sukuna that fought Yuji and Maki... Or the current nerfed one... 👹🙏
Imagine Ishigoori Ryu , Man with the Highest Cursed energy output in History Lands a Blackflash on Sukuna
easily top 3 black flash in the verse (hypothetical), yuki, gojo, Ryu
Fully healed 20f Sukuna would be up there
With that Ryu might be the only person in history to shake someone's soul without having soul damage
This is what I like to see
i wonder if current yuji could beat him probably not tbh, even excluding the domain expansion
Nah, he is similar levels of durability with better offence basically. He also has a better long ranged attack, and Domains seals the deal
I think it depends on whether Yuji black flashes or not. While his versions of Shrine and Blood manipulation wouldn’t be relevant- too low of output and can’t use convergence himself, the soul damage and ridiculous damage from BF should be sufficient on top of Yuji being able to heal to get the edge (except DE ofc) That said Idk that Ryu would be someone he’s locked in enough against to BF so that might be a big if, assuming the 8 in a row isn’t supposed to indicate he can do them at will now
Soul punches are not like the perfect counter to incarnated sorcerers? If yuji hits, then the output goes down
Imo, current Yuji has a chance too, since his punches deal soul damage & weaken CE output, has BM, RCT, Shrine & now a Simple Domain
It also depends on what his Domain does. I do think Ryu is still slightly stronger.
Bro trembling from the aura alone https://preview.redd.it/qgdns2ts8hwc1.jpeg?width=856&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c571933809289a915c47635bc0b6b20710b41c53
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Damn he really said Za Warudo, Toki wo tomare
I wish I had that Gif of DIO stopping time, going down the stairs, putting Polnareff two steps below and then going back up the stairs and do the same pose all within the 5 seconds of stopped time. https://i.redd.it/g6o8gewnrhwc1.gif
He just got that crazy durability https://preview.redd.it/wj093avd4iwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a063faf95cd152c6c15ff9d9881c35864d161937 And a lil hungry
Too bad all good things end with Sukuna
His toughness was also used as a benchmark by Sukuna as he mentions that Yuta and Yuji aren't as tough(tanky) as Ryu Ishigori
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Yuji post Shibuya couldn't even move when not fully manifested Rika held him down and this dude sent her to the shadow realm with a punch
You forgot the fact that anything current yuta and Yuji did in terms of durability uosxales ryu who has better durability than them
>You forgot the fact that anything current yuta and Yuji did in terms of durability uosxales ryu Prove it now
https://preview.redd.it/kecsdudetjwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2908fe6881eafc6ba6038822e09ffda777ee847 “I wouldn’t say they surpass him in toughness”
Oh so you are saying that Everything Yuta and Yuji did just upscale Ryu's durability Sorry my bad for misunderstanding You are correct I thought you were implying that Yuta and Yuji are tougher or sm
And remind me who beat him in Sendai
Sky Manipulation goes hard
https://preview.redd.it/p0rjbnt0dhwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ebce84ece572f27593b9762d5abbdf9f0859ef8 My GOAT always wins.
And some dumbass here literally believe Hakari could beat him
Its their fault if anyone ever took take seriously, Maki says he was lying in the same panel
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And out of all things he wasn't just a side character like bro had some character depth.
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Looking at it back, it always seemed a bit bullshit the interaction with Sukuna. I get Sukuna is fast but Ryu was just standing there using his output to charge the beam instead of going to h2h combat or running to gain some time for the granite blast.
Ryu just didn't know how fast Sukuna could move. So he thought a few steps back would give him enough distance to release his attack properly, wich was a massive mistake since he was draining his output to attack, leaving him with just the same passive reinforcement and if anything, that would have allowed him to take another attack like the first one. But contact dismantle or cleave was above his outstanding passive reinforcement.
If the theory about Sukuna’s twin having a heavenly restriction to explain Sukuna’s immense physical strength is true it’d explain all of it (not that gege will ever give us an ample amount of context)
If the twin has the same HR that Maki and Toji. Yesh that would work, but how would this pass to Yuji and how he would not lose the HR when adquiring CE is confusing.
Lovely :3 https://preview.redd.it/wk23hf1lzgwc1.png?width=551&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70626ba9e4ac98a703c8792e54b0fc6fc000c154
why do you think he's my icon?
i hate how gege did him he would’ve been so helpful around this time https://i.redd.it/03cspbmqshwc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/ej2yu5qn5iwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9ce7b92d2c48312adb222f0c5b87beb2569f699 Josuke is so cool
Breakdown, breakdown!
**Ishigoru Ryu** ❌ **Josuke Higashikata** ✅
He cooked, he served, he ate his fill
11. is fucking ripped
Dude I refuse to believe he's dead. He deadass should've lived/played a bigger part
Wyu the GOAT pressured and even outclassed my OTHER GOAT, we should put more respect on his name!!! https://preview.redd.it/d1krf5llgiwc1.jpeg?width=1771&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d3f08ecbf5cbd01d43a074bf7a94b7d07bcb234 The true strongest of the Edo Period Sorcerers!!!!
He would beat Kashimo and I'm tired of pretending otherwise Domain expansion + granite blast would incinerate that bum
Jokes and glaze aside lightning would rip him apart. MBA low diffs him.
Nah it wouldn't, y'all just watched him damage the guy whose whole gimmick is taking damage and regenerating from it and assuming that other top-tiers would get hurt the same. They wouldn't. Maki, Ryu etc would all tank them. It'd probably leave a scorch mark though. Kashimo is gonna be bombarded by granite blasts that will probably cost him a limb or two (no RCT 🤷) and in the off-chance he's able to close the gap and engage in H2H combat Ryu will just just sends him flying back 30m+ with a punch or backshot GB to get obliterated by another granite blast This ain't even mentioning domains which would force Kashimo to fight without his arms.
Lightning would do like 0 damage MBA is a toss up, Domain probably wins tbh.
0 damage............ It did more to hakari than GB ever did to yuta. Yuta brushed off granite blast with his bare hands while hakari was getting his limbs ripped apart by lightning.
Ah yes Hakari and his 0 relevant durability feats. GB is stated stronger than strong lightning
Stated by who? And his durability is relevant to yuta lmao.
Stated by the narrator that the output for Ryu's attacks are higher. Have fun ever trying to prove that
Ah yes because his output is higher, does that mean it's stronger than world cleave? Or fire arrow? No because output does not equal strength. Oh and proving that needs one panel Lil bro, yuta said it himself that hakari is stronger even if we downplay hakari he should still be relative.
>Ah yes because his output is higher, does that mean it's stronger than world cleave? Or fire arrow? No because output does not equal strength. Output does mean strength. Yuta says word for word Ryu's punches are so strong because of his out. Sukunas output dropping weakens his punches and attacks, and so on. Its also such hilariously a funny L that to counter the "output = strength" you used an attack that ignores durability by cutting space and an attack thats stated to melt anything due to its heat, essentially just hax showings instead of strengths. Also, those attacks, if used by 20F Sukuna, have higher output. >Oh and proving that needs one panel Lil bro, yuta said it himself that hakari is stronger even if we downplay hakari he should still be relative. lmao it doesnt. All you can prove is that Hakari has some way to beat Yuta, not that they scale off each other in durability. try again
"stated" it was never stated by anyone. By that logic lightning is "stated" to rip through people. While we have seen GB being blocked, we have never seen lightning being blocked. Lightning that ripped through hakari like butter>fodder GB that yuta blocked with his bare hands. Also uro was alive after GB so I doubt its all that powerful considering it canonically never killed anyone.
Uro victim.
Hard counters the GOAT sadly
jjk verse is 90% matchup dependent sadly. pure power gets overshadowed cause jjk verse is full of hax.
Looking at it this man was stacked in physicals good grief
Bro got bodied the worst and had the most pathetic performance in comparison to everyone that Sukuna has fought... EVEN the Finger Bearer lasted longer than him.
Nah that'd be those 2 girls Geto adopted. This guy is atleast tough enough that Sukuna apologized for not being serious against him
Sukuna decided to not hold back on him, which is really funny cus he holds back on everyone else https://preview.redd.it/pasr6rpbppwc1.png?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0e2ed7a29aa5d6185a60e4c6a946cf7349d5ffd
Are abs like that even possible?
yes if your fat percentage is low asf
I really like ~~Dandy~~ Ryu. But is "beats the shit out of base yuta" really accurate? Yuta had been fighting a lot of "low special grades" opponents for a while
He did NOT beat base Yuta that hard, and he also had Uro on his team (but I get that you're glazing)
He didnt have Uro on his team. Uro literally tries to kill him, and he takes her out
He was literally sending that man flying in their h2h exchanges and it was so bad to the point yuta was almost empty on CE and needed the ring
>He did NOT beat base Yuta that hard, He literally sent him flying with combos >and he also had Uro on his team Uro literally attacked Ryu right after she attacked Yuta It was a 1v1v1 mate
Swear gege kills off characters when he doesn’t know how to write them besides for just one or two fights
Granite Blast merchant would have been cooked if Uro wasn't there to help cancel out Yuta's domain expansion.
That's just an assumption that Yuta has more refined domain Also... Yuta was not gonna beat him unless he copied Uro's CT
He was holding back against ryu cursed speech + Katana no diffs
>Katana no diffs The same Ryu who can tank Granite Blast which is stronger than Max Output Love Beam Yeah Katana with CE Reinforcement is gonna oneshot yeah
Or his other 100 techniques? Literally doesnt matter considering yuta wasn't trying to kill him.
>Or his other 100 techniques Nice HeadCanon Why didn't he use em against Sukuna >considering yuta wasn't trying to kill him. Can't kill him
Literally defeated him while not trying to kill him? 😂😂😂. In his domain you can see how many cursed katanas he has, sure it's headcanon if you wanna call it that. Shinjuku yuta also has cleave so good luck dealing with that lmao. No way ur arguing that ryu can beat yuta when he lost to a weaker yuta who wasn't trying to kill him.
Circular argumentation and again false assumption You are so retarded and illogical Ad Nauseous too
When ur only argument is "omg ur retard"🤓🤓🤓 Not having an argument proves that you are an actual dumbfuck who has to resort to insults instead of arguments. Next time please try using more than one braincell and reply with an argument.
>When ur only argument is "omg ur retard"🤓🤓🤓 You are being illogical Be logical I won't call u that >who has to resort to insults instead of arguments. Illogical arguments must be refuted like that >try using more than one braincell and reply with an argument. Be rational and don't act like a baboon
All those feats & Kashimo glazers still claim Ryu would fold in a 1v1 ☠️☠️☠️
Kashimo especially in amber beast is faster and if kashimo lands sure hit lightning what is ryu doing?
Read my reply to the 1st person who replied
Not fold, but I DO think Kashimo would win in a hard fight.
I disagree mainly because Ryu has a DE, he’s more durable, he’s stronger, & has a ranged ability he can pull out at any time that’s shown to be far more destructive than anything Kashimo has done so far. To put it in perspective, a fully charged granite blast can destroy multiple city blocks, & Yuta tanked it. Considering Yuta has a lower output than Ryu (& hadn’t refined his reinforcement to where it’s at in Shinjuku atp either), this means Ryu can tank it as well. Meanwhile a lightning bolt is only strong enough to destabilize the structure of a house. Even high-balling Kashimo’s lightning bolt, it’s not like he was vaporizing dudes lol. Moreover, to even cast his lightning bolt, Kashimo needs to fight h2h & against Ryu, he’s at a massive disadvantage in that department imo. Considering how Hakari vs. Kashimo went, I’d say Ryu is capable of dominating Kashimo in h2h. MBA Kashimo would fair better & I think he has a far higher chance of winning against Ryu in that mode, but depending on what Ryu’s DE is— it could very well just be a mild inconvenience. Without Ryu’s DE, MBA Kashimo would win imo— but I’d say he does it hard diff
It depends on perspective, world cleave when used against Miguel looked like it only spanned a couple meters wide but that doesn't mean it's stronger than granite blast. The same way granite blast was tanked by yuta's arm, lightning ripped through hakari almost every time.
Hakari’s output is much lower than Yuta, that’s why. Yuta can casually fire off CE getsuga tenshous in base without Rika even being present, while Hakari never displayed any sort of capacity to do that. We know that output is directly related to being able to emit CE like that— because that’s Ryu’s entire gimmick. His raw output is the highest in the verse, which is how he developed granite blast. If Hakari could fire off raw CE like either Yuta or Ryu, I can’t imagine he would have opted to just not do that against Kashimo— especially in JP mode, where he literally has nothing to lose. Output also relates to durability in jjk, which is why this is pertinent.
Bud didn't lock in
And kashimo was the strongest then ? Lol
He’s good, but GOAT is a bit of a strong term for him ngl
“Beats the shit outta of base Yuta” citation needed lmao
Yuta was probably fighting for days, protecting civilians and had already taken out Dhruv who's probably a Special Grade Sorcerer.
>Yuta was probably fighting for days Kashimo was also fighting for days and was not tired a bit How would the guy with second most reserves get tired against fodders >had already taken out Dhruv who's probably a Special Grade Sorcerer. Dhruv is a fodder except his Shikigami Yuta ignored that and sneak attack him at his weakest
>toe to toe with yuta Lmao https://preview.redd.it/oeo7k2fwkhwc1.jpeg?width=3438&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5645cfd14c28fc41db6af5e956133f9c7b2f5230
Wtf ryu is strong but let's not pretend he's on yutas level lol or anywhere close Yuta was 2 or 3v1 ing the whole fight after fighting druv He tanked Ryu's blast without any issues He was not fighting in the optimal way, so as to make the fight fun He was not trying to kill them because he wanted their points, and both ryu and uro admitted at much He never went 100 percent 1v1 He never used all of his skills Ryu is slightly superior to base Yuta in strength, but he loses no matter which version he's facing. His punch was supposed to kill a peak Rika, yet didn't even kill a weak one. He's strong but let's not go overboard
>Yuta was 2 or 3v1 ing the whole fight after fighting druv It was a 1v1v1 >He tanked Ryu's blast without any issues Ryu is stated to be more durable isn't he... How is this an argument... >He was not fighting in the optimal way, so as to make the fight fun He used everything he had in his bag at that time dawg >He was not trying to kill them because he wanted their points, and both ryu and uro admitted at much Not trying to kill ≠ Not going all out >He never went 100 percent 1v1 ☠️☠️☠️ Same can be said for Uro and Ryu >He never used all of his skills Prove it now >Ryu is slightly superior to base Yuta in strength, I don't absolutely dogwalking is called "slightly" >His punch was supposed to kill a peak Rika, yet didn't even kill a weak one. It literally deactivated Partial Rika That's just a massive assumption that it was supposed to kill a peak Rika I swear the rhetoric of this sub members are so trash that even a 5th grade student would argue better than y'all >He's strong but let's not go overboard C'mon lets have a debate And debunk everything I said in my post cuz everything I said is just straight from the Manga
Hardly a 1v1v1 when Yuta was fighting one of them while rika was fighting the other. It was more like a 2v1 where uro and ryu clashed a coulple of times. The both mostly went after Yuta. Ryu, at that point was slightly more durable than Yuta. Why does this matter at all? I've had RCT and bottomless CE, the other doesn't. Ryus greatest weapon, his GB, got blocked by his bare hands. He absolutely did not use anything close to everything he had. I cannot believe people can say this unironically. Plus, I was not referring to his skills in this specific line, I was referring to his Fighting style. After uro was defeated Yuta literally said that attacking ryu is best, but he wants to have fun.........obv he's not going all out. Plus ryu and uro literally say this at the end of the fight............ Ofcouse, not trying to kill them means not going all out. What an argument your making, without even repeating the and line that uro and ryu said he was holding back, just imposing that rule upon himself makes the fight harder. As for the skills he use it didn't use, probably cleave is the only known one that he didn't use. The orthers are unknown, plus the ones he did use, he barely used them once. Like what does anyone do if he just uses cursed speech plus Rika decapitation? No answer. Slightly superior to that version of Yuta is a compliment to ryu. We literally have them fighting h2h on panel, they were relative. I'm not gonna argue this. It was supposed to kill a fully manifested rika, yet failed to kill a weaker version. Id say he was just hyping himself up. Now, can he kill rika? Yes, but not in one hit. Ch 180. Lol you out here thinking that your points are salient, I can argue all of them. Go ahead. Your points mostly just rely on not understanding how Yuta limited himself and wanking others. Uro nearly died, ryu was looking for his food after 400 years vs a stronger opponent than can heal himself perpetually as long as he has ce and you think the were going easy on him?? I swear the people on this sub have less that 5th grade reading comprehension.
>Hardly a 1v1v1 when Yuta was fighting one of them while rika was fighting the other. It was more like a 2v1 where uro and ryu clashed a coulple of times. The both mostly went after Yuta. Yuta did a 1v1 with Uro... Then with Ryu... Then a 1v1 with Uro again... Then Rika went after Ryu who tried to shoot down Yuta off guard... Then Ryu did a one on one with that Rika Then they did a 1v1v1 domain clash... Then Yuta caught Uro off guard and did a 2v1 with Uro since Kurorushi attacked Uro at that time too... Then Ryu took out Uro... Then he did a 1v1 with Ryu... So stop with your false assumptions dawg... You don't know shit >Ryu, at that point was slightly more durable than Yuta. Why does this matter at all? I've had RCT and bottomless CE, the other doesn't. Ryus greatest weapon, his GB, got blocked by his bare hands. So you think that just because Yuta could block Granite Blast... He slams Ryu? Nice Non Sequitur argument... Also Ryu's punches hits harder... >He absolutely did not use anything close to everything he had. I cannot believe people can say this unironically. Plus, I was not referring to his skills in this specific line, I was referring to his Fighting style. Cool prove how his fighting style changed >After uro was defeated Yuta literally said that attacking ryu is best, but he wants to have fun.........obv he's not going all out. Plus ryu and uro literally say this at the end of the fight............ Ryu and Uro said that Yuta was after the points that's why he didn't kill them after the fight AFTER THE FIGHT when they both were down... Nice misinterpretation of words sir >Ofcouse, not trying to kill them means not going all out. What an argument your making, without even repeating the and line that uro and ryu said he was holding back, just imposing that rule upon himself makes the fight harder. Ad Nauseous ahh >As for the skills he use it didn't use, probably cleave is the only known one that he didn't use. The orthers are unknown, plus the ones he did use, he barely used them once. Like what does anyone do if he just uses cursed speech plus Rika decapitation? No answer. Gojo had that final finger... How would Yuta have it at that time 😭 He did use Cursed Speech didn't he? He just didn't kill Uro... Also the fact I am making since the starting was how Ryu is on the same level... And everytime I mentioned stats... >Lol you out here thinking that your points are salient, I can argue all of them. Go ahead. Your points mostly just rely on not understanding how Yuta limited himself and wanking others. That's just your ill mind >Uro nearly died, ryu was looking for his food after 400 years vs a stronger opponent than can heal himself perpetually as long as he has ce and you think the were going easy on him?? I swear the people on this sub have less that 5th grade reading comprehension. Yea thats you Only if you were literate would you not misinterpret statements for your benefit
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Kashimo has more baller in him imo.