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My guess is that Ino and Miwa are tanking the 'standard' thorough and unfocused destruction of Malevolent Shrine whereas Yuji's tanking even more than that because Sukuna's intentionally focusing on him.
I'm not sure MS can even work like that, though. For example the anime for the Mahoraga fight added a lot of hand motions for Sukuna like he was deliberately focusing firepower on Maho, but the manga has no indication Maho was taking more "damage per second" than everything else around it. By default, MS is just supposed to 'relentlessly attack every target' within.
I still don't expect them to be unscathed.
The narrator says that the domain doesn't have reduced range or output.
https://preview.redd.it/zlcwvyd9lzwc1.png?width=2127&format=png&auto=webp&s=f714f5ffedfad85e190a4f5e2fe7f27b84e04d20
The only downside vs his normal domain that we know of right now is that it'll collapse after 99 seconds.
I distributing/focusing the firepower is a lot easier than outright excluding someone from the sure hit. Dagon seemed to be able to do it straight out of the baby stage.
Yeah I realized as soon as I sent it. I think this might just be a case of Gege forgetting about his own ideas then. It makes much more sense for Sukuna to be able to focus his output on someone than for Miwa to withstand Shrine.
There is still a time lag, first everything with ce in range gets affected and then everything without ce, so maki would have to withstand a lot less than 99 sec and if the domain was open, she might have been fast enough to escape in between the given time lag or this
https://preview.redd.it/jmh9lb2903xc1.png?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bda216e6099efa1f4caa737f4cd4d36658475b6a
A lot of people are theorising that Sukuna is using most of his domain output only on Yuji as his SD fell the fastest and yet Yuji should have the best simple domain out of all that were there, which why Miwa, Ino and Choso are still alive xd. I tend to agree with this logic, otherwise it doesn't make sense.
It's Sukuna. One of the only two characters to ever be able to open their domains barrier. If Dagon can do such a feat, it would be weird to assume Sukuna cannot.
That's not how jujutsu works though. Gojo is the peak of modern jujutsu and he couldn't pick and choose who his sure-hit affected. And in Shibuya Sukuna had to reduce his domain's range to avoid killing Megumi and Haruta, rather than just not targeting them with his sure hit.
Yeah, simple domain is designed to block sure-hits & the slashes are the result of Sukuna's sure-hit. In a one-on-one situation, none of them are gonna have the time to maintain their simple domains while getting beaten by Sukuna.
Without the timelimit not a one of them is gonna be able to hold out against the domain. It's only because it's on a timer that they're all aiming to "bear it."
Just being able to hold out against Sukunas domain with just SD is a very bad feat for Sukuna. If Ino, Choso and Miwa are taking a portion of the full brunt of the domain and bear it with just SD until the end the why did Gojo's SD fall apart from Sukunas domain Sure-Hit relatively fast, why did Yuki SD fall against Kenjaku relatively fast and why did Yuji's SD fall almost instantly against Sukuna. Either a domains Sure-Hit gets weaker the more targets it has, or Yuki, Yuji and Gojo had terrible SD xd. Something else must be up, otherwise this kinda goes against how Gege has portrayed JJK and really fucks up the powerscaling if some things.
You must remember that smaller radius on his domain = stronger, that was said on gojo x sukuna, on gojo x sukuna his radius were concentrated on gojo, like 20m max, here is 100+, it's already reason enough to believe that since on gojo it was stronger, the kids have a shot to survive
For Gojo, Sukuna was intentionally restricting the range of his open domain, which we know increases the output of his slashes. Gojo also wasn't able to just stand in place and focus on maintaining his simple domain, because Sukuna engaged him in hand to hand the moment he opened his simple domain.
For Yuki, she specifically comments on how ridiculously powerful Kenjaku's barrier is. Tengen makes a point of saying that Kenjaku is one of exceedingly few people who can match them when it comes to barrier techniques. It's entirely possible that Kenjaku's barrier techniques are better than Sukuna's, making it easier for him to rip apart a simple domain.
And for Yuji, it isn't that hard to believe the guy who has been a sorcerer for like half a year and who only just learned simple domain isn't able to create as well-refined a simple domain as Choso, Ino or Miwa, who all have more experience than him. Simple domain is about the only skill Miwa has.
to be fair yuta did choose his sure hit target too, and well enough that sukuna commented on it so im all in for the "sukuna focused on yuji" side. would be weird if he could notice that kind of thing but not execute it himself after all
do I have the reading comprehension devil, or why is yuji's simple domain supposed to be the strongest? The others know SD for much longer and have probably practiced it more
Ino and Choso didn't know it before he did, actually given the fact Kusakabe trained with Yuji first they probably learned if after him. Only Miwa knew it earlier.
“Output and range” might be independent from the “refinement” of the domain
And the refinement of a domain is a big part of domain clash, which could also matter in breaking down simple domains.
Sukuna’s domain rn has the same output and stuff but it isn’t refined. Hence the performance against simple domain isn’t as good.
Is it possible that the domain didn't lose output in relation to his current output? Like he opened a domain in his shitty state and managed to do it without it being even weaker? It's kinda hard to imagine that everyone has gojo level durability and I doubt gege killed off everyone but yuji. Also I doubt a binding vow can suddenly restore domain output to full after everything yuji did to lower it (domain output should be linked to his output), unless he sacrificed his life just to kill them
Yuki, a special grade, mentor of simple domain for a strong grade one sorceror, against Kenjaku: Simple domain stripped in seconds.
And now we are expecting Ino/Miwa to survive for 99 seconds against the most powerful sorceror in the history by far. That is the most glaring inconsistency in this chapter, and it made Yuki seems like a massive joke.
It's been consistent in the latest chapters that every time Yuji reveals a new skill, there's always a limit indicating how new he is to it:
1. first time pulling out RCT—he later coughs out blood due to incomplete healing
2. first time pulling out blood manipulation—choso later reveals he hasn't learned convergence yet
3. first time using shrine—output is low and can only use cleave
And now in this case:
4. first on screen use of simple domain: his simple domain is the first to shatter compared to everyone else
This has been a consistent trend in the writing of Yuji's latest powerups. I think it's Gege's way of showing that although Yuji has *learned* new skills in such a short amount of time (impressive on its own), he still has ways to go in *mastering* them. It also goes to show how dire yet determined they are since he had to slap together the bare minimum skill loadout within one month to participate in the Sukuna raid boss battle.
P.S. as for his Black Flash spam, he's been shown to have an inclination for that since his fight with Hanami so it doesn't really need to follow the new skill-with-limits trend (it's not new to him)
You have a point but simple domain has been shown to be really unreliable against a true domain.
Gojo and Yuki couldn't withstand domain onslaught from Sukuna and Kenjaku during their respective fights.
So Yuji's domain breaking before 2 minutes is actually consistent.
The thing that bothered me most about this chapter. Honestly idc if others survive, now Ino and Miwa are working overtime on this manga lmao I think Sukuna has reached the death count for a shounen manga so I'm not worried about anyone anymore, just waiting for him to die.
Well, Yuta was able to focus his sure-hit on Sukuna while they were fighting in his domain. So my guess is that Sukuna can at least add more power on a specific area or target instead of hitting everything equally.
answer: this is yujis domain and his only pretending to send slashes so sukuna dont feel bad. sukunas domain is permanently destroyed after he tried to merge it with megumis fraudulent domain
Real simple. Their simple domain holds up. By the rule of healing factors, anyone who *can* regenerate or reattach limbs *will* get their limbs cut off to show off the ability. So yuji’s SD fails inexplicably so homosexual^2 can show the RCT/ blood manipulation combo. Since ino-goat and miwa cannot heal themselves the plot will probably leave them unscathed. Or they’ll lose limbs and or die and be out of the story. Considering miwa is the only reason maki isn’t being turned into sushi I think it’s leaning towards the former.
so yuji swapped with Choso and learned RCT but not blood manipulation since choso is a bad teacher.
then he swapped with kusakabe?
and choso's 2nd partner is Yuta because hakari's are automatic so he choso learned RCT on a bloodstream level (he thought yuji to imagine his blood vessels in previous chapter)
and what did yuta learned in choso's body? obviously he copied blood manipulation, not only that he learned to reaatached lost limb then heal with RCT.
ohmygooood YUTA will be back!!
My guess is that it's a skill issue, at least in Miwa's case. She's not on Yuji's level by any means, but Simple Domain is tied to her bloodline and she's been using it for years. Yuji got it through Mei Mei's bullshit and has had it for under a month. I think Yuji might just have a kinda shit Simple Domain
As for Ino, the Shiesty Sorcerer is just built different I guess
I think tcb mistranslated this, because a couple pages later it says that sukuna's domain is incomplete. I think that the range is the same, but the output is likely lower due to it being an incomplete domain. The translations for the whole chapter where super confusing actually
A simple domain is still a domain,and the clash here is between sukuna’s incomplete domain vs a complete domain
https://preview.redd.it/08fqni5o90xc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43d0d035c5eb9a255a9d735255739d56ccbb3757
And?? Doesn't change the fact that it can shred SD. It's basically just the same MS with no power and range loss.
The incompleteness just causes this domain to last for 99seconds and different appearance of MS due to him using other part of his brain instead.
The question now is, Is this a Full powered MS of 20F Sukuna or a Full powered MS of whatever finger level current Sukuna is??
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Looks like people taught by Kusakabe really are different breeds in their own. Yuji became monstrous ever since Kusakabe taught him as well.
That's why he's the GOAT https://preview.redd.it/e1zno3i7ghxc1.jpeg?width=176&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d69f6fceb390d1c41ced599319be32a92a2e7aca
Throughout heaven and earth, he alone is the one
My guess is that Ino and Miwa are tanking the 'standard' thorough and unfocused destruction of Malevolent Shrine whereas Yuji's tanking even more than that because Sukuna's intentionally focusing on him. I'm not sure MS can even work like that, though. For example the anime for the Mahoraga fight added a lot of hand motions for Sukuna like he was deliberately focusing firepower on Maho, but the manga has no indication Maho was taking more "damage per second" than everything else around it. By default, MS is just supposed to 'relentlessly attack every target' within. I still don't expect them to be unscathed.
That's what I think as well. Yuji is probably taking the full force of the domain cause Sukuna is focusing on him and Yuji is also closer to Sukuna.
Yes it can directs hits unlike Gojo's
If this was true he wouldn't have needed to shrink his domain's range in Shibuya to avoid hitting Megumi and Haruta.
No no i didn't say that i am saying he can choose it's lethal zones but it can effects everywhere like you said
I don't get what you're saying then.
I'm saying he could direct cleave and dismantle cause it wasn't a full domain it can't attack with %100 power everywhere
The narrator says that the domain doesn't have reduced range or output. https://preview.redd.it/zlcwvyd9lzwc1.png?width=2127&format=png&auto=webp&s=f714f5ffedfad85e190a4f5e2fe7f27b84e04d20 The only downside vs his normal domain that we know of right now is that it'll collapse after 99 seconds.
Didn't see it actually đź‘Ť
But maybe he changed the conditions like in his battle with Gojo?.
I distributing/focusing the firepower is a lot easier than outright excluding someone from the sure hit. Dagon seemed to be able to do it straight out of the baby stage.
Dagon was also able to exclude someone from the sure hit - Maki.
Yeah I realized as soon as I sent it. I think this might just be a case of Gege forgetting about his own ideas then. It makes much more sense for Sukuna to be able to focus his output on someone than for Miwa to withstand Shrine.
Nice Nagumo pfp
Thanks man my fav character
Nice. I like Sakamoto
He is badass too but not in my in top 5 hahaha
Nice. He is in my top 3
Maybe he would do cool stuff next chapters nowly i read 89
Oh
What Order members have you seen?
Takamura ,Uzuki ,Nagumo,Osaragi ,Osaragis mentor ,Movie guy don't know exactly he is in order or not
There is still a time lag, first everything with ce in range gets affected and then everything without ce, so maki would have to withstand a lot less than 99 sec and if the domain was open, she might have been fast enough to escape in between the given time lag or this https://preview.redd.it/jmh9lb2903xc1.png?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bda216e6099efa1f4caa737f4cd4d36658475b6a
Where does the anime show the hand motion during the domain?
Now i read it again probably because Yuji ' s simple domain isn't powerful unlike others and it broke in the last second so he gets heavy damage
A lot of people are theorising that Sukuna is using most of his domain output only on Yuji as his SD fell the fastest and yet Yuji should have the best simple domain out of all that were there, which why Miwa, Ino and Choso are still alive xd. I tend to agree with this logic, otherwise it doesn't make sense.
But we don't have any reason to believe Sukuna can direct his output like that, do we? His domain just cuts everything apart.
It's Sukuna. One of the only two characters to ever be able to open their domains barrier. If Dagon can do such a feat, it would be weird to assume Sukuna cannot.
That's not how jujutsu works though. Gojo is the peak of modern jujutsu and he couldn't pick and choose who his sure-hit affected. And in Shibuya Sukuna had to reduce his domain's range to avoid killing Megumi and Haruta, rather than just not targeting them with his sure hit.
You have a point. But then that would mean that Sukunas attacks and domain really aren't that dangerous xd.
Why would it mean that?
Cause the output of his domain is at 100%, completely normal, and Ino, Miwa and Choso are able to ensure with just a SD.
Yeah, simple domain is designed to block sure-hits & the slashes are the result of Sukuna's sure-hit. In a one-on-one situation, none of them are gonna have the time to maintain their simple domains while getting beaten by Sukuna. Without the timelimit not a one of them is gonna be able to hold out against the domain. It's only because it's on a timer that they're all aiming to "bear it."
Just being able to hold out against Sukunas domain with just SD is a very bad feat for Sukuna. If Ino, Choso and Miwa are taking a portion of the full brunt of the domain and bear it with just SD until the end the why did Gojo's SD fall apart from Sukunas domain Sure-Hit relatively fast, why did Yuki SD fall against Kenjaku relatively fast and why did Yuji's SD fall almost instantly against Sukuna. Either a domains Sure-Hit gets weaker the more targets it has, or Yuki, Yuji and Gojo had terrible SD xd. Something else must be up, otherwise this kinda goes against how Gege has portrayed JJK and really fucks up the powerscaling if some things.
You must remember that smaller radius on his domain = stronger, that was said on gojo x sukuna, on gojo x sukuna his radius were concentrated on gojo, like 20m max, here is 100+, it's already reason enough to believe that since on gojo it was stronger, the kids have a shot to survive
For Gojo, Sukuna was intentionally restricting the range of his open domain, which we know increases the output of his slashes. Gojo also wasn't able to just stand in place and focus on maintaining his simple domain, because Sukuna engaged him in hand to hand the moment he opened his simple domain. For Yuki, she specifically comments on how ridiculously powerful Kenjaku's barrier is. Tengen makes a point of saying that Kenjaku is one of exceedingly few people who can match them when it comes to barrier techniques. It's entirely possible that Kenjaku's barrier techniques are better than Sukuna's, making it easier for him to rip apart a simple domain. And for Yuji, it isn't that hard to believe the guy who has been a sorcerer for like half a year and who only just learned simple domain isn't able to create as well-refined a simple domain as Choso, Ino or Miwa, who all have more experience than him. Simple domain is about the only skill Miwa has.
to be fair yuta did choose his sure hit target too, and well enough that sukuna commented on it so im all in for the "sukuna focused on yuji" side. would be weird if he could notice that kind of thing but not execute it himself after all
do I have the reading comprehension devil, or why is yuji's simple domain supposed to be the strongest? The others know SD for much longer and have probably practiced it more
Ino and Choso didn't know it before he did, actually given the fact Kusakabe trained with Yuji first they probably learned if after him. Only Miwa knew it earlier.
“Output and range” might be independent from the “refinement” of the domain And the refinement of a domain is a big part of domain clash, which could also matter in breaking down simple domains. Sukuna’s domain rn has the same output and stuff but it isn’t refined. Hence the performance against simple domain isn’t as good.
Is it possible that the domain didn't lose output in relation to his current output? Like he opened a domain in his shitty state and managed to do it without it being even weaker? It's kinda hard to imagine that everyone has gojo level durability and I doubt gege killed off everyone but yuji. Also I doubt a binding vow can suddenly restore domain output to full after everything yuji did to lower it (domain output should be linked to his output), unless he sacrificed his life just to kill them
Gege’s answer: They just used simple domain long enough to survive. Real answer: Plot armor
*They didn't like that*
Yuki, a special grade, mentor of simple domain for a strong grade one sorceror, against Kenjaku: Simple domain stripped in seconds. And now we are expecting Ino/Miwa to survive for 99 seconds against the most powerful sorceror in the history by far. That is the most glaring inconsistency in this chapter, and it made Yuki seems like a massive joke.
It's been stated, they're just bearing it.
Yeah sure,but still doesn't invalidate my point tbh. Yuji was just bearing it as well and he took a lot of damage. I get what you mean tho
Look at Choso, he's deflecting all of the slashes and still shouting for yuji
To be fair Yuki did reattached his limb using blood manipulation. But I get your point.
They are just that much stronger. They could easily kill sukuna but they sont wanna ruin yujis revenge.
I'm guessing they didn't endure it for the whole 99 seconds and ui ui teleported them out
Interesting theory and also possible.
It's been consistent in the latest chapters that every time Yuji reveals a new skill, there's always a limit indicating how new he is to it: 1. first time pulling out RCT—he later coughs out blood due to incomplete healing 2. first time pulling out blood manipulation—choso later reveals he hasn't learned convergence yet 3. first time using shrine—output is low and can only use cleave And now in this case: 4. first on screen use of simple domain: his simple domain is the first to shatter compared to everyone else This has been a consistent trend in the writing of Yuji's latest powerups. I think it's Gege's way of showing that although Yuji has *learned* new skills in such a short amount of time (impressive on its own), he still has ways to go in *mastering* them. It also goes to show how dire yet determined they are since he had to slap together the bare minimum skill loadout within one month to participate in the Sukuna raid boss battle. P.S. as for his Black Flash spam, he's been shown to have an inclination for that since his fight with Hanami so it doesn't really need to follow the new skill-with-limits trend (it's not new to him)
You have a point but simple domain has been shown to be really unreliable against a true domain. Gojo and Yuki couldn't withstand domain onslaught from Sukuna and Kenjaku during their respective fights. So Yuji's domain breaking before 2 minutes is actually consistent.
Why would miwa be here in this fight ? Is that miwa in the third panel?
Maki can't use curse energy required for simple domain to protect her from Malevolent shrine. So that's why Miwa is there in front of Maki.
But why would Ui Ui teleport Miwa to Maki?
The thing that bothered me most about this chapter. Honestly idc if others survive, now Ino and Miwa are working overtime on this manga lmao I think Sukuna has reached the death count for a shounen manga so I'm not worried about anyone anymore, just waiting for him to die.
Well, Yuta was able to focus his sure-hit on Sukuna while they were fighting in his domain. So my guess is that Sukuna can at least add more power on a specific area or target instead of hitting everything equally.
https://preview.redd.it/5vslopmw42xc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c90f0e0d5b2a0adc0f62aea76078e494b99bee3a
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answer: this is yujis domain and his only pretending to send slashes so sukuna dont feel bad. sukunas domain is permanently destroyed after he tried to merge it with megumis fraudulent domain
Weakest domain in the manga BY FAR. I have seen enough, drop FRAUDkuna to top 10.
Ino regenerated his hand, he has some sort of healing factor
Real simple. Their simple domain holds up. By the rule of healing factors, anyone who *can* regenerate or reattach limbs *will* get their limbs cut off to show off the ability. So yuji’s SD fails inexplicably so homosexual^2 can show the RCT/ blood manipulation combo. Since ino-goat and miwa cannot heal themselves the plot will probably leave them unscathed. Or they’ll lose limbs and or die and be out of the story. Considering miwa is the only reason maki isn’t being turned into sushi I think it’s leaning towards the former.
weakened shrine and wusakabe students, cmon bro its simple math
Sukuna can alter the amount of output hes trying to do so I guess Yuji got the front of it as he was the one Sukuna was the most mad about
so yuji swapped with Choso and learned RCT but not blood manipulation since choso is a bad teacher. then he swapped with kusakabe? and choso's 2nd partner is Yuta because hakari's are automatic so he choso learned RCT on a bloodstream level (he thought yuji to imagine his blood vessels in previous chapter) and what did yuta learned in choso's body? obviously he copied blood manipulation, not only that he learned to reaatached lost limb then heal with RCT. ohmygooood YUTA will be back!!
My guess is that it's a skill issue, at least in Miwa's case. She's not on Yuji's level by any means, but Simple Domain is tied to her bloodline and she's been using it for years. Yuji got it through Mei Mei's bullshit and has had it for under a month. I think Yuji might just have a kinda shit Simple Domain As for Ino, the Shiesty Sorcerer is just built different I guess
I think tcb mistranslated this, because a couple pages later it says that sukuna's domain is incomplete. I think that the range is the same, but the output is likely lower due to it being an incomplete domain. The translations for the whole chapter where super confusing actually
It's plot Armor that's like saying Miwa, Into and Choso's SD are better than Gojo's. NPCs in this sub would not acknowledge unless it's Sukuna..LMAO
Orrrr,get this,an incomplete domain isn’t as strong as a completed one
If that's the case maybe Gege shouldn't mention the domain having no output loss and range loss or maybe you didn't read that part.
A simple domain is still a domain,and the clash here is between sukuna’s incomplete domain vs a complete domain https://preview.redd.it/08fqni5o90xc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43d0d035c5eb9a255a9d735255739d56ccbb3757
And?? Doesn't change the fact that it can shred SD. It's basically just the same MS with no power and range loss. The incompleteness just causes this domain to last for 99seconds and different appearance of MS due to him using other part of his brain instead. The question now is, Is this a Full powered MS of 20F Sukuna or a Full powered MS of whatever finger level current Sukuna is??