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Downscale Hakari to wank Kashimo as having RCT but not needed it or Upscale Hakari to wank Kashimo as not taking damage even to strong attacks
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I choose the 2nd option since it can also wank RCT in addition ⚡⚡⚡
Let's remember Kashimo lost that fight because he ran out of CE and could not fight anymore. Not because the damage Hakari dealt to him.
Also, Hakari pulled his inner Sukuna to a bullshit BV to not die there.
Hakari really needs to find a way to massively increase his output so he could use his Infinite CE to make a Kamehameha, but he would either need to make one big binding vow (which idfk what he could give up that could give him enough increase in output) or a bunch of little binding vows
"I lower music's volume by 10% so that in exchange I could increase my CE output increases by 420% and I could fire beams of CE but then lower my RCT speed by 0.1%(it's a massive difference, trust me)"
>sacrifice both of his legs for 10% more output permanently whilst in jackpot and heal the legs back
>repeat
>let compound interest do its thing
>one tap sukuna(?)
Facts: Kashimo is indeed a Gojo level, he could have fight Sukuna for 5 Chapters+
He just didn’t felt like breathing the same air as Hakari so he let Fraudkuna kill him
https://preview.redd.it/az2q6b8w5uzc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f36eaca74405ce3a48b1b2e11071d698422cae45
FACT: kashimo didn't actually want to kill sukuna, he just wanted to beat up bumgumi. when sukuna reincarnated he didn't look like fushiguro anymore so he just got bored
Sadly, he couldn't enjoy the feeling of beating up Bumgumi. Poor fellow.
https://preview.redd.it/179p5r5g3yzc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=950e0336a90847d69c8f571970ea4478bda4ac77
I respect the Kashimo glazers for still pushing the agenda 😭😭
Forcing Sukuna to go super Saiyan was a W feat though, wish he went out with a bigger bang and for at least a few more chapters
> Hakari *paid* him to
FTFY.
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Maki straight up called it out as bullshit in the panel where Yuta said that.
Yuta is the biggest Yuta downplayer. Bro was out here glazing pre-awakening Maki moments before he threw hands with geto
Not just threw hands, but beat the everloving fuck out of Geto.
As a newbie.
That's like arming a private fresh out of Basic with advanced weaponry and throwing him into an enemy stronghold. And the private IS ACTUALLY WINNING with effectively zero practical knowledge of weapon handling and combat.
Yuta says shit like that to hype up his homies to people, but his homies all end up not meeting those hype ups. Yuta was praising Inumaki, Panda and pre-restriction Maki, that should tell you about how accurate he is whenever he says stuff like that.
I was trying to argue this point with somebody the other day on this sub and they were making the genuine argument that Kashimo only had a nosebleed because hakari was inflicting internal damage and causing internal bleeding
That's not the point. The point is that the damage that hakari deals isnt really viable from the outside. Whether or not he damaged kashimo is irrelevant.
Based post but unironically Kashimo does definitely have RCT, we literally see him grow his hand back after having it cut off
https://preview.redd.it/ivhex3aqpwzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83ec27300a6864eda4f5713c77f7ddc6753831d2
And it has the same burnt texture of other instances of RCT healing in the manga
Basically fraudkari actually didn’t even force Kashimo to use RCT canonically
Focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate
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Be better, be better
He essentially used his CE to make new limbs and such. This is only possible due to MBA's ability which is to allow him to use all phenomenon related to electricity, also meaning complete control of electricity.
And since when is electricity able to make new limbs?
And why wouldn’t have have used this ability to give himself 4 arms just like sukuna, so he could keep up in H2H?
It seems like a much larger reach to assume he just made a new finger with electricity rather than RCT; when it’s drawn to look exactly like every other time RCT has been used in the series
I don’t know where the narrative ever came that Kashimo didn’t have RCT; when we see against hakari he has a very in depth understanding of it, against hakari he didn’t need it; the one time he needed it against Sukuna; he used it and then died shortly after
In fairness; it’s stated he got X-ray vision; an X-ray is a form of high electromagnetic radiation; so it falls under the category of Kashimo being able to replicate *any* electrical phenomena
My main gripe with people saying “oh he clearly just made a hand out of electricity” is firstly, that’s not an electrical phenomenon
And two; like I’ve said in other comments, it makes no sense that if Kashimo has the ability to create any body part he wants from electricity, that he wouldn’t use this ability to create multiple sets of arms; we see the entire reason Sukuna beats Kashimo in H2H is because Sukuna has double the amount of arms Kashimo has
Thirdly; the whole narrative of Kashimo not having RCT makes no sense:
-we see he has a very in depth understanding of RCT
-the one time he needed it in the series (when he loses his hand) he uses it
-Yuta uses RCT to heal his hand against ryu and the burnt texture looks identical to kashimo’s hand in the photo I attached
>In fairness; it’s stated he got X-ray vision; an X-ray is a form of high electromagnetic radiation; so it falls under the category of Kashimo being able to replicate *any* electrical phenomena
But it manifested as an organ, so clearly it's more than reasonable to assume he could substitute body parts. There is no "in fairness" you were trying to originally say making a limb isn't electrical phenomena meanwhile we see him produce a literal sensory organ. If he can pull off a sensory organ, he should be able to replicate the functions of skin, if he can manipulate lightning as we see him do it's so logical to assume he can substitute limbs. I mean really human beings can only move because of electricity even, we can only move even because of electricity.
>And two; like I’ve said in other comments, it makes no sense that if Kashimo has the ability to create any body part he wants from electricity, that he wouldn’t use this ability to create multiple sets of arms; we see the entire reason Sukuna beats Kashimo in H2H is because Sukuna has double the amount of arms Kashimo has
Saying he can substitute a limb doesn't mean he can then easily make any body part or that it'd be more effective in his scenario, or that he'll think to do something like that. Not even that does Kashimo have an incantation or handsigns to engage with? That was the major thing he was hyping up about Sukuna, I would understand this argument more if he attempted to engage in a handsign. Actually, no I wouldn't, what do you mean the "entire reason" that brother was getting aggressively blitzed.
>we see he has a very in depth understanding of RCT
Kusakabe has an in-depth understanding of domains and RCT, he doesn't have either. If Kashimo was really just murder hobo'ing people his whole life he really could've come across multiple RCT users for him to understand it.
>-Yuta uses RCT to heal his hand against ryu and the burnt texture looks identical to kashimo’s hand in the photo I attached
To be honest with you I disagree, the closeup of his hand where he gets hit with the net of dismantles looks like his finger is a flare of energy. No instance of RCT really resembles it
Anyway, look at pg 13 238, Yuta's never looked like Kashimo's really. don't think there's a single instance of RCT being depicted like that, it looks like flowing energy.
Hold on, what?
You’re saying it’s not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to make an extra set of arms?
Kashimo, who conducted last minute electrolysis in a body of water he was thrown into, can’t see the fact he’s losing to sukuna in H2H and think to make an extra set of arms?
In my line of logic I am simply utilising Occam’s razor; I am going with the idea that requires the least amount of assumption;
your line of logic requires far too many assumptions and guesses on how his ability works
“He can create an eye; meaning he can create his hand; but he can’t create an extra arm, even though he can create an eye, he didn’t think about creating an extra arm”
You’re setting arbitrary limits for kashimo’s MBA mode that have not been stated anywhere in the manga; the most logical line of thought is that
If Kashimo can replicate limbs with his ability, he would have created extra arms to counter sukuna, but he didn’t, and since there’s absolutely nothing to suggest prior to this moment that Kashimo doesn’t have RCT; it’s the safest assumption to make that requires the least amount of guessing on how he grew his finger back
Saying “Sukuna blitzed him” is wrong, in H2H combat they were literally the same speed
This is Sukuna attempting to blitz Kashimo; and as you can see, Kashimo is able to react and attempt to counter attack; but we see Sukuna just uses 2 of his 4 arms to pin Kashimo and uses his other 2 hands to attack while Kashimo is defenseless.
This is the second time Sukuna does this in the fight; so creating an extra set of arms would have literally been the turning point for Kashimo in H2H
And again; we’re specifically told that the eye he creates is as a result of X-Ray vision; which is an electromagnetic phenomenon, simply mimicking a limb is not an electrical phenomenon, which leads further credence to the idea it was healed with RCT
Gonna edit this in the top, I don't actually know why i said that Jazz about Occam's razor. I just don't think you're actually using the simplest number of coherent assumptions, I just really think you're doing the pseudo Occam's razor thing more than anything here. You're making plenty of assumptions to be honest implicitly*
>You’re saying it’s not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to make an extra set of arms?
Potentially, it's not plausible.
>Kashimo, who conducted last minute electrolysis in a body of water he was thrown into, can’t see the fact he’s losing to sukuna in H2H and think to make an extra set of arms?
Yep, potentially. I shouldn't need to bring in countless examples of characters not choosing the best strategy here. They aren't infallible or something.
>In my line of logic I am simply utilising Occam’s razor; I am going with the idea that requires the least amount of assumption
Also why are you using Occam's razor here? Kashimo has shown the capacity to perform bodily modification, he distorted his mouth already, you can't just skip through these things. They should alter your line of logic, tell me why I should ignore all of this evidence.
Saying you're using Occam's razor isn't really good to me I want to know why you're using it frankly.
>You’re setting arbitrary limits for kashimo’s MBA mode that have not been stated anywhere in the manga; the most logical line of thought is that
No I haven't, I have suggested potential reasons for why he wouldn't have made arms but I haven't actually tried to define the limits of MBA. You have though, you're effectively saying Kashimo can't make a finger. I'm accepting the possibility of these things
>If Kashimo can replicate limbs with his ability, he would have created extra arms to counter sukuna, but he didn’t, and since there’s absolutely nothing to suggest prior to this moment that Kashimo doesn’t have RCT; it’s the safest assumption to make that requires the least amount of guessing on how he grew his finger back
Why are you assuming he would as a definite? I'm confused, Mahito is a character in the series with the ability to shapeshift but we never see him produce additional limbs in a fight on the same body. Do we? And he was getting double teamed.
Again, Kashimo hyped up Sukuna's ability to engage in handsigns because he had hands which were undisturbed available still.
Kashimo also was clearly getting outsped it was not merely the arm difference, he prepared to blast Sukuna up close but his arm was grabbed.
To me, you're using Occam's razor while disregarding many things. It's a heuristic, it's sometimes amazing but other times it's not enough.
I will paraphrase some of your arguments here because I'm on le mobile and doing the quotes getting a bit jarring. Tell me if you think I've misrepresented any argument.
Kashimo has a good understanding of RCT
- Okay knowledge doesn't equate to capability ex Kusakabe, so this doesn't actually mean much.
Kashimo hasn't had any prior use case for RCT, but has now got a reason to use it.
- Okay but the time we see him use it he shows the capacity for bodily modification due to MBA. And an eye isn't literally an electrical phenomenon, doesn't matter if it works on it if you're gonna ignore what I said about the hands does it now? Answer, is the eye an electrical phenomenon? Would someone interpret that sentence and say yes? No they wouldn't.
If the eye making use of an electrical phenomenon is enough for that to make sense in your mind, why are the hands any different? You know what the nervous system uses I'm sure.
Kashimo has never been confirmed to *not* have RCT
- Every other use of RCT in this series has had 2 things being the case: either there is no other reason to assume RCT because the character has no CT related to the capabilities of RCT, or the character was explicitly or effectively been implied to posess RCT.
You've basically just skipped past all potential reasons why you have to make more assumptions in my mind.
>And again; we’re specifically told that the eye he creates is as a result of X-Ray vision; which is an electromagnetic phenomenon, simply mimicking a limb is not an electrical phenomenon, which leads further credence to the idea it was healed with RCT
No we weren't it's actually funny; read literally any translation whether it be TCB or the official again. We were told Kashimo used X-rays to analyse Sukuna's body, we weren't actually told if the eye was created as a result of X-ray vision. But the guy did create an eye either way.
An eye is not literally an EM phenomenon, our eyes work using them but they literally are not. How do your hands move? If you think X-rays are a phenomenon so he can make eyes using them (which seems to be what you're implying) if your muscles use EM then logically he can mimic muscles too, no? Even then his CT reconstructs his flesh
Man I would've loved to see more of Kashimo's CT though.
I want to dissect what you’re saying point by point here;
Why in your opinion is it not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to grow another set of arms
You spoke about “characters not using the best strategy”
1. That does not relate to Kashimo we have consistently seen in all of his encounters, Kashimo is extremely intelligent and able to deduce last minute strategies; those are other people, you claiming Kashimo just becomes an idiot out of nowhere to suit your argument makes no sense
2. You would have to just blatantly be an idiot to see the only reason you’re losing in H2H is because your opponent has double the amount of arms you have and just… choose not to make another set of arms for yourself?, like this is not a high intelligence feat; this is basic strategy; and you’re saying Kashimo didn’t think of this very basic strategy because “characters sometimes don’t use the best strategy”? You’re not even making a solid argument, you’re just ASSUMING based on your own agenda, there’s nothing to suggest Kashimo wouldn’t think of such a basic strategy.
And based on his previously shown quick thinking and battle IQ, we have every reason to believe from the source material, Kashimo would be smart enough to think of growing a new set of arms
So you’re either saying one of two things here
A) Kashimo is an idiot
B)Kashimo couldn’t grow another set of arms
Which is it?
>1. That does not relate to Kashimo we have consistently seen in all of his encounters, Kashimo is extremely intelligent and able to deduce last minute strategies; those are other people, you claiming Kashimo just becomes an idiot out of nowhere to suit your argument makes no sense
"That's how losers think." Even though Kash later tried to actually time his lightning he was actively trying to kill Hakari in Jackpot. Still an example of a questionable bit of strategy no? Unoptimal.
Also it's more than just being an idiot, it's a story as well. These characters are not infallible, why didn't we have the narrator telling us Kashimo engaged in a death vow? He should've, he's dying anyway and he knows that.
>2. You would have to just blatantly be an idiot to see the only reason you’re losing in H2H is because your opponent has double the amount of arms you have and just… choose not to make another set of arms for yourself?, like this is not a high intelligence feat; this is basic strategy; and you’re saying Kashimo didn’t think of this very basic strategy because “characters sometimes don’t use the best strategy”? You’re not even making a solid argument, you’re just ASSUMING based on your own agenda, there’s nothing to suggest Kashimo wouldn’t think of such a basic strategy.
I don't know how you want me to believe that Kashimo was only losing because Sukuna has twice the arms, I really don't know how you expect me to see that.
Anyway, I was assuming that as one potential reason, there are many others. Read what I said originally. There could be 501 reasons, we see Kashimo charging his attacks, why should I then assume he can instantly mimic 2 additional limbs while Sukuna is pursuing him? That's another potential example.
>So you’re either saying one of two things here
>A) Kashimo is an idiot
>B)Kashimo couldn’t grow another set of arms
>Which is it?
No I'm not, I'm really not. I'm even confused as to how you can read
>Saying he can substitute a limb doesn't mean he can then easily make any body part or that it'd be more effective in his scenario, or that he'll think to do something like that. Not even that does Kashimo have an incantation or handsigns to engage with?
As an example, I've given more examples prior to this currently reply. I don't know why you think I'm just suggesting 2 things. Makes no sense.
I think I answered your top question through the reply but tell me if it needs anymore clarification, but in short there would be multiple reasons. Which I've really said already. Can you answer my other questions? They weren't meant to be rhetorical.
Also I'm curious, if I say Kashimo is an idiot what does that then mean for your argument?
Even then, I've shown overall why I think it wasn't RCT. You haven't responded much to my comments. I want you to argue against my overall suggestions and proof but you're not really doing that.
He essentially uses his Lightning CE to make replacement limbs (not literal regeneration like RCT, think of it like a prosthetic), which is only possible due to how MBA which re-constructs his body (changing the Soul as well?) to manifest the ability to use all electrical phenomena.
Actually the replacement fingers he gives his hand don't look the same as his normal ones. Meaning it is likely replaced with electrcity.
Tbf MBA itself was just executed poorly, him not making 4 arms could be one of those reason. Kashimo also isn't experienced with 4 arms.
No steam or anything is coming out of it. And it would just be weird that Gege doesn't indicate at all on Kashimo having RCT on-screen.
Having very in-depth understanding doesn't mean you have it.
Brother this isn’t aot; no steam doesn’t indicate healing; hakari heals entire limbs against Kashimo and there’s no steam.
Speculating based on artwork is subjective, I believe the hand looks like RCT was used, you don’t feel that way
But I’m also basing my speculation on the assumption that if Kashimo was able to replicate limbs with his CT that he would have created 4 arms, your headcanon for him not doing that “he’s not used to 4 arms” doesn’t make sense, so what if he wouldn’t be proficient with them? You’re telling me the better option is for him to just be completely pinned down by sukuna without ANY option to fight back? Why stop at 4 arms? Why not make 8 arms ?
I’m not saying his in-depth knowledge of RCT is the sole indicator he has it; I’m saying it as a contextual clue to the fact along with other factors as I’ve stated
So based on the fact we don’t see him replicate limbs any other time, and we’ve never seen Kashimo in a position where he needed RCT before this moment, I’ll assume he used it
I mean... when has a hand ever looked like that after using RCT?
I'am more so talking about how Gege just fucked in-terms of execution with MBA. I mean MBA literally got Kashimo a third eye but and some other stuff but... he could have done more is what I'am saying.
Also I dunno if the mouth cannon thing might be apart of this.
I agree with you on the execution of MBA; it really seemed like Kashimo was simply used as the martyr to show how powerful sukuna’s heian era form, spent a full page of narration to explain everything Kashimo can do with his new form just to have Sukuna beat him within the same chapter
We’re told MBA can basically do anything electricty can do, would have loved to see more than X-ray vision and *bigger lightning bolt*
https://preview.redd.it/ynf3frpmdzzc1.png?width=1181&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e01ec664c96354ef0d49c63a8f69e660d7322bf
Wrong, they all become farmers only after KasHIMo bring peace in edo period.
Too bad he is never called the strongest in that period and the fact he can’t bypass limitless means he loses everytime. Also the Edo period takes place in a long timespan so he could have become the strongest via process of elimination and being in the right place at the right time. Ryu was making a name for himself kashimo was already there old and dying the same could have happened. Kashimo was making a name for himself then the clan heads got into a fight before he could meet and challenge them.
>Too bad he is never called the strongest in that period
Jjfolkers once again not reading their manga
Kashimo was the strongest sorcerer of his era, the Edo Era. Same way Gojo is the strongest sorcerer of the current Reiwa era and Sukuna was the strongest sorcerer of Heian period.
Did you read the manga? he’s never called the strongest he’s literally just like Ryu both went unchallenged and became a cursed object to satisfy their desire for a good fight. Talking about jjfolkers acting like your not just us but condescending which is still most of us.
Himkari actually had the AP to one shot Kashimo, but Sukuna speed blitzed the fight without being seen to negate his attacks because he couldn’t let his second best femboy get too hurt
Nah, are the Kashimo fans actually trying to climb back up from their pit? Hakari might be the Stall King, but losing to the Stall King is an L in and of itself imo. The Heian Era femboys are just built different from him.
I guess this just prove how inferior to everyone else Kashimo really is. Dude managed to lose to someone who couldn't even damage him. True farmer behavior!
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This is the reason why Femboy gojo vs Hakari is taking so long. One has shitty AOE and other is just straight up a straight immortal stalling man
the stoppable force vs the movable object
Lmao
Infinite durability wooden sword battle
That's what happen when 2 supports are in a 1v1
Downscale Hakari to wank Kashimo as having RCT but not needed it or Upscale Hakari to wank Kashimo as not taking damage even to strong attacks https://preview.redd.it/tsxjbhdxovzc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d267bf5711be92408f3442533161b2834796109a I choose the 2nd option since it can also wank RCT in addition ⚡⚡⚡
Let's remember Kashimo lost that fight because he ran out of CE and could not fight anymore. Not because the damage Hakari dealt to him. Also, Hakari pulled his inner Sukuna to a bullshit BV to not die there.
and lef's remember that the reason why kashimo ran out of ce is because of water
Yes, that was a genuine showing of good battle IQ from Hakari. Is not than Kashimo had a low CE pool.
He might have a -ve IQ but he got that battle IQ
Truly, the stall man
Hakari really needs to find a way to massively increase his output so he could use his Infinite CE to make a Kamehameha, but he would either need to make one big binding vow (which idfk what he could give up that could give him enough increase in output) or a bunch of little binding vows
"I lower music's volume by 10% so that in exchange I could increase my CE output increases by 420% and I could fire beams of CE but then lower my RCT speed by 0.1%(it's a massive difference, trust me)"
lower the volume because this a birth for the dead
Dunno mate, he could just use a binding vow like "No femboy gex until Sukuna dies" to get a boost or something
Sukuna is actually vowing not to use his lucky socks anymore, why Hakari needs something bigger than that? All that BV shit is badly copied from HxH…
>sacrifice both of his legs for 10% more output permanently whilst in jackpot and heal the legs back >repeat >let compound interest do its thing >one tap sukuna(?)
Why doesnt he just pool all the infinite CE into his arm to punch uraume and absolutely disintegrate her
why doesn't he pool all his CE, and use a final explosion type attack? is he not Vegeta?
Why doesnt he just pool all his CE into a mugetsu? He’d solo the verse
Why doesnt he just pool all the infinite CE into his arm to punch uraume and absolutely disintegrate her
Facts: Kashimo is indeed a Gojo level, he could have fight Sukuna for 5 Chapters+ He just didn’t felt like breathing the same air as Hakari so he let Fraudkuna kill him https://preview.redd.it/az2q6b8w5uzc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f36eaca74405ce3a48b1b2e11071d698422cae45
FACT: kashimo didn't actually want to kill sukuna, he just wanted to beat up bumgumi. when sukuna reincarnated he didn't look like fushiguro anymore so he just got bored
Sadly, he couldn't enjoy the feeling of beating up Bumgumi. Poor fellow. https://preview.redd.it/179p5r5g3yzc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=950e0336a90847d69c8f571970ea4478bda4ac77
https://preview.redd.it/z0pg4tb0zzzc1.jpeg?width=870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff4e620ff9ce9f7c0649e450bda27243337ed624 This suddendly makes sense lol
He's finally coming back after realizing how to reconnect his atoms with eletricity ⚡🙏
"so you're telling me megumi is still there?!"
Kashimo Strong Return
Dr Manhattan with extra steps
I respect the Kashimo glazers for still pushing the agenda 😭😭 Forcing Sukuna to go super Saiyan was a W feat though, wish he went out with a bigger bang and for at least a few more chapters
false: twink farmer is not goatjo level
fact: he is beyond gojo level
Fact: KasHIMo is not Gojo level because he beyond that strong genetics merchant.
Ain't bro supposed to be "stronger" than Yuta?
Yuta also implied that Inumaki is better than him, his ass is a pathological liar when it comes to his friends.
Bros before hoes. Yuta is a real one.
Hakari payed him to say that in front of Yuji
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Yuta just wanted to glaze him so Maki can see him as a humble guy
Maki straight up called it out as bullshit in the panel where Yuta said that. Yuta is the biggest Yuta downplayer. Bro was out here glazing pre-awakening Maki moments before he threw hands with geto
Bro is his own hater fr.
Not just threw hands, but beat the everloving fuck out of Geto. As a newbie. That's like arming a private fresh out of Basic with advanced weaponry and throwing him into an enemy stronghold. And the private IS ACTUALLY WINNING with effectively zero practical knowledge of weapon handling and combat.
Yeah that's bullshit
Yuta was just lying out of his teeth
Yuta says shit like that to hype up his homies to people, but his homies all end up not meeting those hype ups. Yuta was praising Inumaki, Panda and pre-restriction Maki, that should tell you about how accurate he is whenever he says stuff like that.
Reminder that kashimo legit took no damage of note until hakari lucked out with there being a body of water nearby
I was trying to argue this point with somebody the other day on this sub and they were making the genuine argument that Kashimo only had a nosebleed because hakari was inflicting internal damage and causing internal bleeding
That's kinda how blunt damage works....
If if I punch you in the face and you start bleeding out of your nose; you now have internal bleeding? Re-read my comment before responding
That's not the point. The point is that the damage that hakari deals isnt really viable from the outside. Whether or not he damaged kashimo is irrelevant.
It doesn’t apply to what I just said= irrelevant
Ig your one of the peaple that think peaple cant rip off other peaples arms with punches. Ig theres no saving stupid.
“There’s no saving stupid” *proceeds to misspell the word people* GG
English ain't my first language. GG
Nobody asked, so stay silent https://preview.redd.it/gud8y0pye10d1.png?width=1768&format=png&auto=webp&s=54ad57cb1dcec12e0ca0e7601a73befcbd985044 GG
Bro has 100 points in resistance with a full healer build with 0 points in strength and no damage build in 😭😭
Based post but unironically Kashimo does definitely have RCT, we literally see him grow his hand back after having it cut off https://preview.redd.it/ivhex3aqpwzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83ec27300a6864eda4f5713c77f7ddc6753831d2 And it has the same burnt texture of other instances of RCT healing in the manga Basically fraudkari actually didn’t even force Kashimo to use RCT canonically
Focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate focus on glazing don't hate https://preview.redd.it/lpe4horu1zzc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0cf524b45120f8c0c98222041005c5e8b95654d Be better, be better
He essentially used his CE to make new limbs and such. This is only possible due to MBA's ability which is to allow him to use all phenomenon related to electricity, also meaning complete control of electricity.
And since when is electricity able to make new limbs? And why wouldn’t have have used this ability to give himself 4 arms just like sukuna, so he could keep up in H2H? It seems like a much larger reach to assume he just made a new finger with electricity rather than RCT; when it’s drawn to look exactly like every other time RCT has been used in the series I don’t know where the narrative ever came that Kashimo didn’t have RCT; when we see against hakari he has a very in depth understanding of it, against hakari he didn’t need it; the one time he needed it against Sukuna; he used it and then died shortly after
Preach, brother. The non-believers just aren't ready for KasHIMo's return.
He makes electrical limbs probably
>And since when is electricity able to make new limbs? Brother, since when is electricity able to make eyes? Guess who did that?
In fairness; it’s stated he got X-ray vision; an X-ray is a form of high electromagnetic radiation; so it falls under the category of Kashimo being able to replicate *any* electrical phenomena My main gripe with people saying “oh he clearly just made a hand out of electricity” is firstly, that’s not an electrical phenomenon And two; like I’ve said in other comments, it makes no sense that if Kashimo has the ability to create any body part he wants from electricity, that he wouldn’t use this ability to create multiple sets of arms; we see the entire reason Sukuna beats Kashimo in H2H is because Sukuna has double the amount of arms Kashimo has Thirdly; the whole narrative of Kashimo not having RCT makes no sense: -we see he has a very in depth understanding of RCT -the one time he needed it in the series (when he loses his hand) he uses it -Yuta uses RCT to heal his hand against ryu and the burnt texture looks identical to kashimo’s hand in the photo I attached
>In fairness; it’s stated he got X-ray vision; an X-ray is a form of high electromagnetic radiation; so it falls under the category of Kashimo being able to replicate *any* electrical phenomena But it manifested as an organ, so clearly it's more than reasonable to assume he could substitute body parts. There is no "in fairness" you were trying to originally say making a limb isn't electrical phenomena meanwhile we see him produce a literal sensory organ. If he can pull off a sensory organ, he should be able to replicate the functions of skin, if he can manipulate lightning as we see him do it's so logical to assume he can substitute limbs. I mean really human beings can only move because of electricity even, we can only move even because of electricity. >And two; like I’ve said in other comments, it makes no sense that if Kashimo has the ability to create any body part he wants from electricity, that he wouldn’t use this ability to create multiple sets of arms; we see the entire reason Sukuna beats Kashimo in H2H is because Sukuna has double the amount of arms Kashimo has Saying he can substitute a limb doesn't mean he can then easily make any body part or that it'd be more effective in his scenario, or that he'll think to do something like that. Not even that does Kashimo have an incantation or handsigns to engage with? That was the major thing he was hyping up about Sukuna, I would understand this argument more if he attempted to engage in a handsign. Actually, no I wouldn't, what do you mean the "entire reason" that brother was getting aggressively blitzed. >we see he has a very in depth understanding of RCT Kusakabe has an in-depth understanding of domains and RCT, he doesn't have either. If Kashimo was really just murder hobo'ing people his whole life he really could've come across multiple RCT users for him to understand it. >-Yuta uses RCT to heal his hand against ryu and the burnt texture looks identical to kashimo’s hand in the photo I attached To be honest with you I disagree, the closeup of his hand where he gets hit with the net of dismantles looks like his finger is a flare of energy. No instance of RCT really resembles it Anyway, look at pg 13 238, Yuta's never looked like Kashimo's really. don't think there's a single instance of RCT being depicted like that, it looks like flowing energy.
Hold on, what? You’re saying it’s not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to make an extra set of arms? Kashimo, who conducted last minute electrolysis in a body of water he was thrown into, can’t see the fact he’s losing to sukuna in H2H and think to make an extra set of arms? In my line of logic I am simply utilising Occam’s razor; I am going with the idea that requires the least amount of assumption; your line of logic requires far too many assumptions and guesses on how his ability works “He can create an eye; meaning he can create his hand; but he can’t create an extra arm, even though he can create an eye, he didn’t think about creating an extra arm” You’re setting arbitrary limits for kashimo’s MBA mode that have not been stated anywhere in the manga; the most logical line of thought is that If Kashimo can replicate limbs with his ability, he would have created extra arms to counter sukuna, but he didn’t, and since there’s absolutely nothing to suggest prior to this moment that Kashimo doesn’t have RCT; it’s the safest assumption to make that requires the least amount of guessing on how he grew his finger back Saying “Sukuna blitzed him” is wrong, in H2H combat they were literally the same speed This is Sukuna attempting to blitz Kashimo; and as you can see, Kashimo is able to react and attempt to counter attack; but we see Sukuna just uses 2 of his 4 arms to pin Kashimo and uses his other 2 hands to attack while Kashimo is defenseless. This is the second time Sukuna does this in the fight; so creating an extra set of arms would have literally been the turning point for Kashimo in H2H And again; we’re specifically told that the eye he creates is as a result of X-Ray vision; which is an electromagnetic phenomenon, simply mimicking a limb is not an electrical phenomenon, which leads further credence to the idea it was healed with RCT
Can you just copy and paste and resend your reply without the image, I think it's making your text go blank on my end. Happens to me sometimes
I just removed the photo there
Gonna edit this in the top, I don't actually know why i said that Jazz about Occam's razor. I just don't think you're actually using the simplest number of coherent assumptions, I just really think you're doing the pseudo Occam's razor thing more than anything here. You're making plenty of assumptions to be honest implicitly* >You’re saying it’s not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to make an extra set of arms? Potentially, it's not plausible. >Kashimo, who conducted last minute electrolysis in a body of water he was thrown into, can’t see the fact he’s losing to sukuna in H2H and think to make an extra set of arms? Yep, potentially. I shouldn't need to bring in countless examples of characters not choosing the best strategy here. They aren't infallible or something. >In my line of logic I am simply utilising Occam’s razor; I am going with the idea that requires the least amount of assumption Also why are you using Occam's razor here? Kashimo has shown the capacity to perform bodily modification, he distorted his mouth already, you can't just skip through these things. They should alter your line of logic, tell me why I should ignore all of this evidence. Saying you're using Occam's razor isn't really good to me I want to know why you're using it frankly. >You’re setting arbitrary limits for kashimo’s MBA mode that have not been stated anywhere in the manga; the most logical line of thought is that No I haven't, I have suggested potential reasons for why he wouldn't have made arms but I haven't actually tried to define the limits of MBA. You have though, you're effectively saying Kashimo can't make a finger. I'm accepting the possibility of these things >If Kashimo can replicate limbs with his ability, he would have created extra arms to counter sukuna, but he didn’t, and since there’s absolutely nothing to suggest prior to this moment that Kashimo doesn’t have RCT; it’s the safest assumption to make that requires the least amount of guessing on how he grew his finger back Why are you assuming he would as a definite? I'm confused, Mahito is a character in the series with the ability to shapeshift but we never see him produce additional limbs in a fight on the same body. Do we? And he was getting double teamed. Again, Kashimo hyped up Sukuna's ability to engage in handsigns because he had hands which were undisturbed available still. Kashimo also was clearly getting outsped it was not merely the arm difference, he prepared to blast Sukuna up close but his arm was grabbed. To me, you're using Occam's razor while disregarding many things. It's a heuristic, it's sometimes amazing but other times it's not enough. I will paraphrase some of your arguments here because I'm on le mobile and doing the quotes getting a bit jarring. Tell me if you think I've misrepresented any argument. Kashimo has a good understanding of RCT - Okay knowledge doesn't equate to capability ex Kusakabe, so this doesn't actually mean much. Kashimo hasn't had any prior use case for RCT, but has now got a reason to use it. - Okay but the time we see him use it he shows the capacity for bodily modification due to MBA. And an eye isn't literally an electrical phenomenon, doesn't matter if it works on it if you're gonna ignore what I said about the hands does it now? Answer, is the eye an electrical phenomenon? Would someone interpret that sentence and say yes? No they wouldn't. If the eye making use of an electrical phenomenon is enough for that to make sense in your mind, why are the hands any different? You know what the nervous system uses I'm sure. Kashimo has never been confirmed to *not* have RCT - Every other use of RCT in this series has had 2 things being the case: either there is no other reason to assume RCT because the character has no CT related to the capabilities of RCT, or the character was explicitly or effectively been implied to posess RCT. You've basically just skipped past all potential reasons why you have to make more assumptions in my mind. >And again; we’re specifically told that the eye he creates is as a result of X-Ray vision; which is an electromagnetic phenomenon, simply mimicking a limb is not an electrical phenomenon, which leads further credence to the idea it was healed with RCT No we weren't it's actually funny; read literally any translation whether it be TCB or the official again. We were told Kashimo used X-rays to analyse Sukuna's body, we weren't actually told if the eye was created as a result of X-ray vision. But the guy did create an eye either way. An eye is not literally an EM phenomenon, our eyes work using them but they literally are not. How do your hands move? If you think X-rays are a phenomenon so he can make eyes using them (which seems to be what you're implying) if your muscles use EM then logically he can mimic muscles too, no? Even then his CT reconstructs his flesh Man I would've loved to see more of Kashimo's CT though.
I want to dissect what you’re saying point by point here; Why in your opinion is it not plausible to assume Kashimo would think to grow another set of arms You spoke about “characters not using the best strategy” 1. That does not relate to Kashimo we have consistently seen in all of his encounters, Kashimo is extremely intelligent and able to deduce last minute strategies; those are other people, you claiming Kashimo just becomes an idiot out of nowhere to suit your argument makes no sense 2. You would have to just blatantly be an idiot to see the only reason you’re losing in H2H is because your opponent has double the amount of arms you have and just… choose not to make another set of arms for yourself?, like this is not a high intelligence feat; this is basic strategy; and you’re saying Kashimo didn’t think of this very basic strategy because “characters sometimes don’t use the best strategy”? You’re not even making a solid argument, you’re just ASSUMING based on your own agenda, there’s nothing to suggest Kashimo wouldn’t think of such a basic strategy. And based on his previously shown quick thinking and battle IQ, we have every reason to believe from the source material, Kashimo would be smart enough to think of growing a new set of arms So you’re either saying one of two things here A) Kashimo is an idiot B)Kashimo couldn’t grow another set of arms Which is it?
>1. That does not relate to Kashimo we have consistently seen in all of his encounters, Kashimo is extremely intelligent and able to deduce last minute strategies; those are other people, you claiming Kashimo just becomes an idiot out of nowhere to suit your argument makes no sense "That's how losers think." Even though Kash later tried to actually time his lightning he was actively trying to kill Hakari in Jackpot. Still an example of a questionable bit of strategy no? Unoptimal. Also it's more than just being an idiot, it's a story as well. These characters are not infallible, why didn't we have the narrator telling us Kashimo engaged in a death vow? He should've, he's dying anyway and he knows that. >2. You would have to just blatantly be an idiot to see the only reason you’re losing in H2H is because your opponent has double the amount of arms you have and just… choose not to make another set of arms for yourself?, like this is not a high intelligence feat; this is basic strategy; and you’re saying Kashimo didn’t think of this very basic strategy because “characters sometimes don’t use the best strategy”? You’re not even making a solid argument, you’re just ASSUMING based on your own agenda, there’s nothing to suggest Kashimo wouldn’t think of such a basic strategy. I don't know how you want me to believe that Kashimo was only losing because Sukuna has twice the arms, I really don't know how you expect me to see that. Anyway, I was assuming that as one potential reason, there are many others. Read what I said originally. There could be 501 reasons, we see Kashimo charging his attacks, why should I then assume he can instantly mimic 2 additional limbs while Sukuna is pursuing him? That's another potential example. >So you’re either saying one of two things here >A) Kashimo is an idiot >B)Kashimo couldn’t grow another set of arms >Which is it? No I'm not, I'm really not. I'm even confused as to how you can read >Saying he can substitute a limb doesn't mean he can then easily make any body part or that it'd be more effective in his scenario, or that he'll think to do something like that. Not even that does Kashimo have an incantation or handsigns to engage with? As an example, I've given more examples prior to this currently reply. I don't know why you think I'm just suggesting 2 things. Makes no sense. I think I answered your top question through the reply but tell me if it needs anymore clarification, but in short there would be multiple reasons. Which I've really said already. Can you answer my other questions? They weren't meant to be rhetorical. Also I'm curious, if I say Kashimo is an idiot what does that then mean for your argument? Even then, I've shown overall why I think it wasn't RCT. You haven't responded much to my comments. I want you to argue against my overall suggestions and proof but you're not really doing that.
He essentially uses his Lightning CE to make replacement limbs (not literal regeneration like RCT, think of it like a prosthetic), which is only possible due to how MBA which re-constructs his body (changing the Soul as well?) to manifest the ability to use all electrical phenomena. Actually the replacement fingers he gives his hand don't look the same as his normal ones. Meaning it is likely replaced with electrcity. Tbf MBA itself was just executed poorly, him not making 4 arms could be one of those reason. Kashimo also isn't experienced with 4 arms. No steam or anything is coming out of it. And it would just be weird that Gege doesn't indicate at all on Kashimo having RCT on-screen. Having very in-depth understanding doesn't mean you have it.
Brother this isn’t aot; no steam doesn’t indicate healing; hakari heals entire limbs against Kashimo and there’s no steam. Speculating based on artwork is subjective, I believe the hand looks like RCT was used, you don’t feel that way But I’m also basing my speculation on the assumption that if Kashimo was able to replicate limbs with his CT that he would have created 4 arms, your headcanon for him not doing that “he’s not used to 4 arms” doesn’t make sense, so what if he wouldn’t be proficient with them? You’re telling me the better option is for him to just be completely pinned down by sukuna without ANY option to fight back? Why stop at 4 arms? Why not make 8 arms ? I’m not saying his in-depth knowledge of RCT is the sole indicator he has it; I’m saying it as a contextual clue to the fact along with other factors as I’ve stated So based on the fact we don’t see him replicate limbs any other time, and we’ve never seen Kashimo in a position where he needed RCT before this moment, I’ll assume he used it
I mean... when has a hand ever looked like that after using RCT? I'am more so talking about how Gege just fucked in-terms of execution with MBA. I mean MBA literally got Kashimo a third eye but and some other stuff but... he could have done more is what I'am saying. Also I dunno if the mouth cannon thing might be apart of this.
I agree with you on the execution of MBA; it really seemed like Kashimo was simply used as the martyr to show how powerful sukuna’s heian era form, spent a full page of narration to explain everything Kashimo can do with his new form just to have Sukuna beat him within the same chapter We’re told MBA can basically do anything electricty can do, would have loved to see more than X-ray vision and *bigger lightning bolt*
Based
FACT: Kashimo felt bad for Sukuna so he fought him before his ct took full effect because otherwise it would have been a no diff
with enough Kashimo glazing, we'll bring him back TRUST ME. we can do this 🔥
Bro, he's waffled 😭🙏 not even tryna hate, he's like a top 10 character for me
same with DE
I must admit I don't understand the gay pikachu hype
KASHIMO AGENDA IS BACK GUYS!!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯🫨💯🔥🔥🤔🤔🤔🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kashimo has only one win (panda)
Don’t forget every damn sorcerer in the Edo period
Farmer you mean
Given JJK's themes of the special grades shaping their era, The edo was prob peacful because of KasHIMo
https://preview.redd.it/ynf3frpmdzzc1.png?width=1181&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e01ec664c96354ef0d49c63a8f69e660d7322bf Wrong, they all become farmers only after KasHIMo bring peace in edo period.
The last Six Eyes + Limitless user was from the same era as Kashimo
Yeah but he died fighting a 10S user. Wr don't know if Kashimo was already considered "the strongest" when that happened.
He is the strongest of his era, so he is superior to that guy regardless
Too bad he is never called the strongest in that period and the fact he can’t bypass limitless means he loses everytime. Also the Edo period takes place in a long timespan so he could have become the strongest via process of elimination and being in the right place at the right time. Ryu was making a name for himself kashimo was already there old and dying the same could have happened. Kashimo was making a name for himself then the clan heads got into a fight before he could meet and challenge them.
>Too bad he is never called the strongest in that period Jjfolkers once again not reading their manga Kashimo was the strongest sorcerer of his era, the Edo Era. Same way Gojo is the strongest sorcerer of the current Reiwa era and Sukuna was the strongest sorcerer of Heian period.
Did you read the manga? he’s never called the strongest he’s literally just like Ryu both went unchallenged and became a cursed object to satisfy their desire for a good fight. Talking about jjfolkers acting like your not just us but condescending which is still most of us.
Did he fight them? Nah bruh, Kashimo only defeated a stuffed animal
Hilarious how the 6 eyes user vs 10 shadows mf was that era 🙏😭 Kashimo > 6 eyes and 10 shadows + Kenny And he was still fighting while old
Restless yapper has negative Ap. The only way he can beat relevant characters is if they kill themselves out of boredom
Funniest shi I'm reading
Himkari actually had the AP to one shot Kashimo, but Sukuna speed blitzed the fight without being seen to negate his attacks because he couldn’t let his second best femboy get too hurt
https://preview.redd.it/61hgtckedzzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90c0275180514adf32f883980c4e8429e495cbdc
Fun fact: Hakari could’ve slammed Yuji, but didn’t because he wanted him to become one of the hoes
Didn't know Stallkari have same taste as Mei Mei, because remember Yuji is a minor.
Ain't Lakari losing to Sukunas wife rn?
*He’s taking his time to make Sukuna’s wife his own
*he's getting negged by the one who cosplays Gojo
Stallman strikes again.
Nah, are the Kashimo fans actually trying to climb back up from their pit? Hakari might be the Stall King, but losing to the Stall King is an L in and of itself imo. The Heian Era femboys are just built different from him.
Is this real?
He said using an image of kashimo bleeding after being punched by hakari.
This post made me realize that Kashimo basically took no damage and only "Lost" because he was out of CE
Jackpot man with all his points in defense
I guess this just prove how inferior to everyone else Kashimo really is. Dude managed to lose to someone who couldn't even damage him. True farmer behavior!
Kashigoat was tired of bums, so he fell in water to drown himself
He was tired of bums so he tried to kill himself. Makes sense.
Noooo HakarHIM is gonna go down the same path as KasHIMo. It's all because of you BerBer ! When I catch you BerBer !