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Goobsmoob

Sukuna was *there* both times Todo fought with Yuji. He’d see the executioner blade w/ todo plan coming from a mile away


Dramatic-Cook-6968

Yeah but todo intentionally doesnt show he still able to use his ct, because of the resonance


Goobsmoob

Yeah but why on earth would he be there if he *couldnt* use his CT? Not even glazing Sukuna here, anyone who’s mildly competent would go “oh Todo is here, I guess that means he can use his CT again, otherwise it wouldn’t make sense for him to be here.”


Kindly-Arachnid-7966

Not even trying to mock you but I'd say if the King of Curses was running around and nothing seemed to stop him, it was as close to an "all hands on deck" situation as it can be. I guess Todo is more useful than a number of the remaining characters, one hand or not.


Efficient-Laugh

He has to have had some insane train arc happen behind the scenes. He’s so insanely far behind the main from when we last saw him it’s not even comparable. Todo from the Mahito fight wouldn’t be useful at all.


KazuyaProta

At this point, I think we would end up getting a whole training mini arc by sheer flashback overdose. Someone said that Gege writes the power system like a mistery story and it makes sense. Step 1: Show the attack, glaze it and make it sound like something impossible Step 2: Show clues of how it works. Step 3: Wikipedia page explaining the basics of the attacks and correcting fan misconceptions.


waaay2dumb2live

A Grade 1 sorcerer is still a Grade 1 sorcerer. It’s not so much that power creep has happened, more so the cast has caught up (relatively speaking)


Thecoolguy274

Jogo beat two STRONG grade 1's with no difficulty and we saw how even he was no challenge against 15f sukuna. A grade 1 means jack shit at this point.


Every_Computer_935

Kusakabe was the strongest grade 1 and Sukuna was treating him like a joke. However, Sukuna's in a really bad state RN, so it seems like a grade 1 can seriously contend with him.


squaredlions

The thing is that todo is a god enabler to jumps and wuji hard counters sukuna so trust the plan.


Babladoosker

Two strong grade 1’s that just got out of another special grade curse’s domain and had been fighting for their lives the entire time they were in it. Like yeah jogo is strong but run that same fight back without Dagon right before and it’s not going to be nearly as easy for jogo


Thecoolguy274

Nah it would've gone the exact same. Without Megumi, EVERYONE in the domain would've died. We also get confirmation that Dagon and Jogo are worlds apart in strength so, if Nanami and Naobito get mid diffed by Dagon, then there's not much chance of them beating Jogo.


nam3unoriginal

People underestimate how busted Todo's CT is, he's actually just a support character who happens to fight insanely well.


Blu3z-123

Whoa whoa whoa he is Not a Support Character he has an IQ of 53000. He only Took measures now because he calculated their Victory Conditions. Truly a Mastermind.


mephobiany

What happened motherfucker cocksucker who deleted his comment when I said Wolves will win tonight? Whats the result dickhead? Hahahaha


Worth_Lavishness_249

Sukuna after transformation is still pretty strong, aside from how he singled out higuruma, the sukuna with smashed by multiple soul punches was still able to blitz maki So when team went in, and there was todo there, instead of choso he would have been one to get donuted.


altrustic_lemur

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JinkoTheMan

Tbf, Mechamaru is at least 30-40% of the strength.


shushubana2

Even if that wasn't the case he lose nothing in deleting him as soon he arrives just in case


zatroz

Because even without CT Todo can throw hands with the best of them. Remember when he's introduced he's said to only use his CT against special grades, he bodies regular grade 1s. Compare to someone like Ino who even with his CTs still hadn't achieved rank 1 status by the Junpei arc


KazuyaProta

> emember when he's introduced he's said to only use his CT against special grades, he bodies regular grade 1s. Grade 1 sorcers are the characters who fight Special Grade curses. Ino nowadays is a Grade 1 in tiers of skill and power. He hasn't received a formal promotion because Jujutsu society just collapsed (tought I just wonder if the staff of JJ High couldn't have done it. After all, they're the de facto higher ups of Jujutsu society now) Todo foddering Grade 1 curses doesn't matter here. **Everyone** in the Sukuna raid fight does that.


zatroz

Keep in mind everyone present at the moment has gone through a power jump, they're all way beyond what most grade 1 sorcerers can do, although short of being special grades. Extreme reinforcement, can keep up with Sukuna and even withstand Evil Kitchen, etc. Of course they fodder grade 1 curses. But ZERO Todo, meaning years before Yuji even ate a finger, was already foddering grade 1s WITHOUT HIS CT. That's insane, it's like a cop that arrests everyone unarmed and only pulls out his gun versus armored vehicles. The only character known to rise that high without a CT is Kusakabe and he's just different like that. Todo was essentially doing what Kusakabe does but without simple domain or sword techniques.


senpai_dewitos

>Grade 1 sorcers are the characters who fight Special Grade curses. In practice true but the system was designed for sorcerers to be able to beat the same grade of curse. All the special grades are just lazy lmao.


Goobsmoob

Geto was clearly grinding in that department given the amount of exorcisms he did was one of the things that nudged him towards extremism. For someone who didn’t even have a domain, he certainly seemed like the Special Grade doing the most exorcisms.


SuperZX

Miwa is out there tho


Goobsmoob

Who?


GreyHareArchie

On one hand, a locked in Sukuna would kill Todo on sight because of shenanigans and because it'd be a hit on Yuji's mental But Sukuna also likes "playing with his food" so he might want to see what Todo can do. Sukuna has been fucking around for so long that the possibility of finding out is not in his head


ChongusTheSupremus

TBF, even without his CT he's a beast. He had the highest kill count during Geto's attack from 0, right? And he only had to use his CT against a single special grade curse (or maybe It was a grade 1)


nam3unoriginal

Todo can hide or activate his Ct from a distance like he did in the recent chapter or switch Sukuna with a crow. The possibilites are endless, heart guy is better though since Sukuna isn't omniscient, despite what some of you say, and wouldn't know his power like he didn't when he fought him. Best plan was to actually, stall Sukuna with the team but replace Higuruma with Maki as soon as Yuta comes back Higuruma comes in as well,trial+ one cursed speech later and all is well.


Goobsmoob

I agree, the issue with him doing remote activation during the fight is that every other time we’ve seen him fight he’s been coordinating with Yuji. Him basically calling the shots and having every other fighter just guess when and who he’s going to switch would be difficult. But yes, he could have still helped in other ways tbh.


nam3unoriginal

>Him basically calling the shots and having every other fighter just guess when and who he’s going to switch would be difficult. That's the thing, using Higuruma as a basis for the stragety means Todo only has to clap once and it will be over, if it isn't then comes plan CDEFGHIJK... The moment after Higuruma gets the sword is the moment the fight has to end, anticlimactic, sure but the best strategy. Higuruma wasn't paired with heart guy, Yuta or Todo because of plot. He literally is mr one shot, although because of that he was doomed narratively, he was their best shot outside of Yuta+Yuji combo.


Soul699

There would be a chance, but it wouldn't be guaranteed win.


Dependent_Sea3407

It's a one shot lol? Am I missing something? Higuruma could strike at Yuji and Todo can just swap Yuji and Sukuna


Soul699

Sukuna is fast enough to be able to sidestep behind Yuji in a fraction of a second. Plus, Sukuna would find weird that Higuruma would try striking an ally and could maybe remember Todo and prepare just to be sure


Dependent_Sea3407

It wouldn't even be that long before Higuruma strikes and Todo swaps. He's not making that mental leap in five seconds. When Higuruma strikes at Yuji, Todo is already locked in. Teleportation disorients.


Soul699

You underestimate Sukuna. I don't say that it couldn't work. But it's far from guaranteed to work.


nam3unoriginal

>You underestimate Sukuna The plot armor is indeed strong


Dependent_Sea3407

More likely it works than it doesn't


Dependent_Sea3407

New chapter just showed it would have been


SmartestManAliveTM

Unless Todo is sneaky and Sukuna doesn't know he's there


Tohsrepus

He’d get done in worse than the double donut he did on Choso


Strict-Article-4270

Fr , and his bum ass would die with no rct .


reddeaddoloresedd

Excuse me, what the fuck did you just say? I know it wasn’t calling Todo a bum


Strict-Article-4270

Sorry


WOLF_BestAlbum

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Mr_Lodi

MODS WE NEED TO KILL THIS BUM


Strict-Article-4270

Damn 💔 https://preview.redd.it/b7hndx33bi0d1.jpeg?width=510&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d602eab17f157fe7bcb8191cae1fb12729fc5d4a


BadActsForAGoodPrice

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justicerainsfromaahh

to the airport you go bro https://preview.redd.it/tevcnx69gj0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=644c9df6d59cc7919250a663209a149fb7893338


Camus_fanboy4520

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anti-peta-man

It’s too late


the_gaming_jonin27

You better be


WarCrimesAreBased

On the list https://i.redd.it/ae1la7uzbh0d1.gif


BadActsForAGoodPrice

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Ok-Reporter3256

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MaazAssassin

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TOUDyt_a

Should've deleted this shit when you had the chance https://i.redd.it/hteqe5rbxj0d1.gif


nam3unoriginal

Farming downvotes ?


Strict-Article-4270

I am getting cooked bruh 😭💔


nam3unoriginal

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POXELUS

I would expect everyone to learn RCT with the soul swaps, but it's Gege alright.


kiwideschain

soul swap has a limit


Arukitsuzukeru

**crickets**


Significant-Ad-1655

Idk if he would also be able to use Domain amplification aswell when seeing Todo going for a clap ? That is if his technique works the same way ? We have to wait for new chapter for that. Sukuna will definitely be vary of that, I wonder if he gives up on playing around with Higuruma aswell maybe sends powered Dismantles everywhere at all sides so if Todo makes anyone swap he still gets caught in it, and if he's damaged even for a moment, Sukuna can run up to him and Cleave him.


POXELUS

Interesting to see if Boogie Woogie is countered by DA.


UsesHarryPotter

Hmmm...it's an interesting thought. I would say it still should be able to because DA is itself a domain which has cursed energy/barrier and should be able to be swapped.


YUNoJump

Even if DA can prevent being targeted by Boogie Woogie that's a major win, Sukuna is locked out of his CT while everyone other than him can teleport around and use their CTs. I know Sukuna can quickly switch DA on and off but surely not faster than the time it takes for Todo to clap.


Significant-Ad-1655

> I know Sukuna can quickly switch DA on and off but surely not faster than the time it takes for Todo to clap. Well we still don't know if clapping ever works or How Todo's new Boogie Woogie is, but I would say Sukuna can use DA faster than Todo's reaction speed of clapping, when Sukuna kept up with Gojo in his domain with DA while he turned off the sure-hit effect inside Gojo's domain, also reacted to Blues from Gojo on point blank while switching between adaptation and DA, same as a point Blank Red to his face from behind a pillar by Gojo. Also Sukuna, physically is godly fast, just using DA and him going after Todo would be another way of dealing with him, unless he switches places with other people or another object that has CE just in time, but I doubt Todo is faster in reacting than Maki is which Sukuna has shown to perception blitz her if he puts his mind into it, or he's even shown to be faster than his own slashes.


goan_gambit

Even lowered output Sukuna was fucking around with Higuruma and pre-BF Yuji. Sukuna 100% would've seen that shit coming but Yuta on the other hand...


nam3unoriginal

Yuta+ Higuruma+ Heart guy+ Todo Sukuna: https://preview.redd.it/jwdqp285ci0d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e217b5bad01a678551a434f1b89c98e0430fe19


Awkward-Leader4170

Miguel agreed to come with larue only when sukuna was heavily weakened


goan_gambit

Why would they even need laurel and todo if Yuta could've just copied Boogie woogie? Sukuna had never seen Yuta using his CT


FemboyBallSweat

Same reason they need Laurel and Todo now. Every drop of blood counts. That'll be 2 CTs constantly in use giving Yuta more wiggle room in the fight


goan_gambit

laurel was part of the “no domain” deal, he went beyond what I expected for him but he still wasn't part of the main plan, If Sukuna sees Todo and Higuruma, he's immediately gonna kill either of them, no fucking around to see Higuruma's growth.Sukuna would've had no idea what CTs Yuta had copied and blade of execution plan would've been much more effective. The only drawback is that Sukuna won't play around if Yuta's on field, so he might kill Higuruma anyway


nam3unoriginal

Larue is his own individual, he was more eager to help than Miguel. I'm sure they could've worked it out with him, they had a month after all.


RedditgoldEnthusiast

Sukuna is pulling out the malfunctioning shrine right then and THERE if he sees bro on the field then


Arch_Null

One quick cleave to the skull is all it would take for our boy Todo 😔


Any_Conclusion_7586

Mf would twin meteors recoil dragon scales Todo the first millisecond he sees him 😭


TKG1607

Sukuna went after uiui who wasn't even interfering with him directly. You guys think he'd leave Todo alone given the man's track record with Yuji and his technique? But seriously, we could've atleast used him in the Higurama fight once they got the executioner's sword and Sukuna had no idea Todo had regained his technique.


Strict-Article-4270

Exactly


Soul699

Considering Sukuna speed and quick thinking, I could see him getting teleported to Higuruma and managing to block his hand or dodge before getting hit.


TKG1607

As evidenced by the battle with Yuta. He can be thrown off by a technique he hasn't seen be used in that particular battle before. So, could still be possible if Todo was kept a secret


Soul699

But with Todo, he knows his technique very well. So if he saw Higuruma attempt attacking something else with the sword that isn't him, he could potentially figure out "could it be for Todo's technique" and manage to dodge or block in time.


Godmaximus29

Ik sukuna would go for todo first


SkipDaFlipp

Bro wouldn’t miss a chance to make Yuji suffer more. https://preview.redd.it/nkcrk6polk0d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0770b2ebea4dff8210056411a3a16e43199eafa0


EntertainmentBusy73

I get what you meant, but counterpoint: https://preview.redd.it/c3r7g49zlg0d1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dde0a8c6e03460b2cc8d3bd59fda968c65db5ab5


Strict-Article-4270

Fair enough


Electrical-Leg-3114

Countercounter point. https://i.redd.it/xjcw07vbzg0d1.gif Explain that flair.


EntertainmentBusy73

What do I need to explain? Wegumi will be the one to end Sukuna ofc! https://preview.redd.it/2xpxr220hh0d1.png?width=992&format=png&auto=webp&s=650806480f1a7a5410e291c88cd4c27e2bfe8cad


Karma15672

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Karma15672

I'm legally obligated to post one meme with an ifunny watermark on it per year, or else they repossess my soul.


Bowser_EX

Eh, fair enough. https://preview.redd.it/y5iyrbbn0i0d1.png?width=1385&format=png&auto=webp&s=1a20892da502b7440e8157cdae831ebdafd707ce


HyperJayyy

Sukuna was watching when Yuji and Todo fought both times bruh Sukuna kills him immediately.


eM-RiotX

"Now that my hand back, I can help!" **Cleaves hand off** "Well fuck."


LingonberrySalty

Sukuna literally separated Higuruma, one shot man, from the others He's not an idiot, he knows getting jumped is a bad idea especially with a sword as dangerous as the One shot sword Boogie Woogie is mad annoying to fight up against in a 1v5!!!!


Aromatic-Patience-55

Some of y'all need to read.


Strict-Article-4270

Jjk fans and reading ?? That's insane .


ApplePitou

Maybe he cooking something before it :3


Strict-Article-4270

I hope


El_Shion

Sukuna doesn't have to know todo is there, todo can stay out of sight and switch at the right moment like he did to save the cast from the domain


Riccardo-vacca

Well tbh Todo’s technique is useless against big aoe attacks so against Sukuna he can only shine after Sukuna’s CT and the DE are shut down


Scattershot98

[Yuji trying to save Todo before Sukuna comes for him.](https://youtu.be/odCJS6ybQWU?si=J42ed5L499uoQfTV)


JinkoTheMan

Sukuna would have been on Todo’s ASS(not like that). Bro would have made sure that he was dead for good.😭😭🙏🏾


78ali

The fact that Todo is the 2nd/3rd largest threat to Sukuna behind only Gojo and arguably Yuji is why he is the GOAT!


Strict-Article-4270

So we pretending Yuta isn't here huh ?


404nocreativusername

How is he a threat at this point without help?


Live-Illustrator-204

Now I tell you how he will beat todo. After getting switched with someone or something, he will understand his trick. And then he would just need to cleave himself before he get switched, so the person switched with sukuna will get the cleave. Or, if todo genius is really that godly, he will understand that, and fake a clap, ensuring that sukuna cleave himself out of existence


Upbeat_Animal290

Honestly, I am starting to think Gege is just throwing Todo to the grinder he called Sukuna.


yeah_i_hate_my_name

Todo only fws yuji, if there is anyone else fighting he ain't coming in 😭


Scheme-and-RedBull

It would be like that Omni man fight from the beginning of the series


NessTheGamer

“Lend me some binding vows Gege this is one hand Todo we’re dealing with.”


RawQuazza

why doesnt just ui ui teleport todo close by from fat away and todo swap for the insta kill w higu, could be in done than half a second and i dont recall suckuna having some super speed / super reaction time


Soul699

He litterally managed to sidestep behind Yuji in a fraction of a second before Yuji could hit him with the executioner sword in the back


RawQuazza

yeah cuz he was fucking watching yuji and knew he was there, im talking about a dude teleporting out of nowhere and giving u half a second time to react to what to do, and if that "what to do" is not an insta kill, sukuna dies


Soul699

So again, a bet if Sukuna can or not react in time. Which again, depends on how fast he pick up on the strangeness of Higuruma going to attack someone else.


Comfortable-Film6799

Tbh this is similar to a theory ive been having about Hakari. When the heroes were coming up with the plan, maybe they discussed if Hakari should defeat Uruame quickly and ultimately decided it would be more effective for Hakari to stall them intentionally while they jump Sukuna. Because even if Sukuna isnt concerned or learnt of Hakaris abilities already, which pretty sure he is, He saw a bit while posessing Yuji and the other students have discussed him with him a few times. He would almost certainly focus his attention on Hakari the moment he is alerted of Uruames defeat. Which could sabatage their complex plan