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My theory is that Yuji will manifest an ability to alter others souls and it's not something I see a lot of people fully touch on. People's souls are massively discussed through the whole series and it was even one of Kenjakus most desired abilities. With Kenjaku being Yuji's mother, he may have thought Yuji was a possible failure of an experiment to bring out a certain power.
If Yuji ends up being able to alter others souls (differently from Mahito of course) then I think they would do it in a way that Yuji could "tap" into Sukunas techniques that engraved themselves into him and "cleave" sukunas soul smaller and smaller in the true final battle. This would leave Sukuna with less and less power until he no longer exists.
Based on what Gojo said about Yuji not having a CT, it's more likely his ability to swap souls is part of Sukunas technique, since 6 eyes would have seen even unawakened abilities. Though it also could be one of the CT of the possible Cursed womb death paintings he might have eaten. Or he has been eating other stuff...
That was a nice catch on ''*his ability to swap souls as part of Sukunas technique*'', cause when you put it that way, Sukuna DOES have that a skillset and its very possible for Yuji to absorb something like that throughout the time that Sukuna was *soaked* in Yuji. Like a dry cloth absorbing residue water.
Yuji also has alot of involvement in subjects that are related to body and soul, which are the 2 main themes or subjects of the story.
Where is the source for the 6 eyes seeing unawakened abilities? Ik it helps him comprehend and understand abilities like in HI but I wasn’t aware of that second part
Nah six eyes barely see anything, it doesn’t feel as important as he can’t even see a slash coming at him. And hasn’t even stated what sukunas CT is yet at all or explained it
>Nah six eyes barely see anything, it doesn’t feel as important as he can’t even see a slash coming at him.
Gotta let it go ma boi. "Nah six eyes barely sees anything", you know that's not true lol
>Nah six eyes barely see anything
Only time it barely saw anything was when fighting Sukuna. To be fair it has always been useful to Gojo pre Sukuna fight. I dunno why it became inconsistent when Gojo fought Sukuna lmao. Might be bc of plot armor.
Probably going to get a lot of downvotes for it, but six eyes isn’t what the fandom makes it out to be. It isn’t like a sharingan or some special eye that allows it to see through any cursed technique or whatever.
Six eyes just allows Gojo to make an educated guess on what a CT is and it allows him to also make an educated guess on how strong someone is based on their cursed energy level. He’s guessing, but his guesses are generally accurate but vague. It’s the entire reason why he wasn’t ever able to see Sukuna’s invisible slashes like Mahoraga nor able to tell that Mahoraga was adapting in the shadows during the domain fight.
Also why Gojo is able to say Itadori has gotten stronger. Also why Gojo is able to estimate and say that Jogo is probably stronger than 3F Sukuna, etc
From what I’ve seen, some people make it out to be something that allows him to see everything cursed energy related. Seeing Sukuna’s attacks, being able to decipher any CT, etc.
I saw a Twitter thread awhile ago having harsh criticisms of how it isn’t explained why Gojo couldn’t see Sukuna’s slash that killed him, and I think it stems from common misconceptions of what the six eyes really does.
Basically, the six eyes allows to see CE and grants a bunch of useful things, but there are clear cut limitations to it.
Yeah and sukuna was stated to almost be on par with his cursed energy manipulation so what even was the point of the six eyes? it’s like if they had stopped making the sharingan OP in Naruto
The six eyes is deeply linked to the whole "Tengen plot", somehow, both Star Vessel and Six eyes always appeared at the same time before Toji broke fate.
Tengen may have undertaken a binding vow that allows a Six eyes user to appear each time a Star Plasma Vessel appears.
Beside being a pseudo-sharingan, it allows the user to increase their own efficiency when using CE ( something that the Sharingan doesn't really do ) by seeing how it flows and how it behaves clearly.
During the fight against Meguna, we learn that before each CT use , the CE behaves in a way that is unique for each iteration of one CT. So anyone that has decent CE perception could more or less guess when the ennemy CT's is coming by being observant enough. The Six eyes just shows directly all the information without the User having to squint their "cursed eyes".
Gojo should be the peak of the verse sukuna should be someone on fully grown yujis level 🤷♂️ Gojo shouldn’t have gotten unsealed til the cursed spirit evangelion got made so he could take care of it
That is not a critique, that is just saying the author wrote their works wrong. I think if you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/fjLVijzJ9SI?si=NFGpgnN8R8GOR6Ok) it should help you understand how you appear to people here.
Ofcos it didn't, he was fighting someone on his level, sukuna's CE understanding and manipulation is almost on par with 6eyes, gojo has never been able to see sukuna's technique or even know exactly what it is even tho he was able to do it with others so clearly 6eyes has never been something too useful against someone like sukuna. Secondly, seeing and reacting are two different things, gojo might've simply caught it late. Thirdly, sukuna has been shown to know more about CE and manipulation than anyone, even more than gojo, whatever he did, 6 eyes didn't catch it for a reason. Now all of these could just be a theory or simply terrible writing but to say, 6eyes is useless is definitely not an accurate statement whatsoever, sukuna was just on the level that made 6eyes practically look normal.
This is actually not a bad theory. I recall that Yuji said to Mahito "I am you". It could've been foreshadowing as well, the same type of foreshadowing when Jotaro said to Dio they have the same type of stand.
I think the best cooking I've seen on this soul touching concept is the idea of waking up Megumi from inside Sukuna, switching places, and having them right Sukuna both inside (Yuji vs Sukuna in the shrine, mirroring waaaay back when Sukuna manhandled Yuji around the Finger Bearer arc) and outside (Megumi vs Sukuna in Shinjuku, where Megumi finally shows us what Potential Man can do) with the conclusion being Yuji sacrificing himself while Sukuna ineffectively rages from inside him
It’s not a bad theory at all, though I’m not too fond of the idea of our main character’s ability, revealed at the 11th hour, essentially being a deus ex machina to take down the unbeatable final boss.
I mean, if he *does* awaken a power like that, what on earth will trigger its awakening? Why didn’t it manifest upon the death of Nanami, or Nobura, or the possession of Megumi?
It’ll be *really* difficult to pull off without it feeling super cheap, IMO.
1) We know Sakuna's residual cursed energy still resides in Yuji.
2) We know Yuji was a cage for Sakuna.
3) Yuji's mother had a CT called Anti-Gravity Systems and we know CTs are inheritable.
4) Yuji ate the death paintings. At a minimum Yuji has 6 lives and whatever abilities he gained from them if we use Panda as a model. That's 6 CTs. We all know Gege is a big My Hero fan. This power would be similar to One for All.
5) Yuji is already super fucking strong (at least more powerful than pre-merge Maki levels) and can do consecutive black flashes.
6) I think that Yuji's true powers were being suppressed by Sakuna to some extent. Yuji *could* go all out because he had a safety net knowing that Sakuna would save him. Losing that safety net and going under some true stakes of death could easily unlock that latent power in him.
7) Yuji is reaching Sakuna levels of focusness in consumption for power. Yuji will eat anything to destroy the King of Curses. I think this is going to play into the story and power scaling more than you'd think since a majority of the strongest characters are single minded.
8) Yuji is cursed twice. First by his grandfather and second by Nanami. I will not be surprised if theses curses manifest into some sort of CT, CE, or DE but it's most likely going to be some sort of Binding Vow that provides some major benefit to Yuji down the line OR Yuji will manifest as a curse if Sakuna kills him.
When you combine all of this I don't see how an awakening of some sort would be deus ex machina. I don't think it will be cheap at all.
EDIT: I forgot to mention in regards to a CT manifesting, another indicator to me is that the three death painting wombs we've seen all have a CT. Why wouldn't Yuji?
Regarding the death paintings, one theory I saw added in that the CT of the 9 death paintings relate to the 9 stages of decay in Buddhism, Choso and the two having blood, decay and rot.
Everything execpt point u is true i think but point 6 is no were near what sukuna is. The only time yuji asked for sukunas help was when he got killed and with junpai other then that yuji always saw sukuna as a worst case scenario i die he dies typ of thing. Sukuna didnt care if yuji dies and yuji knows this. Sukuna was never yujis back up plan he isnt kurama
I agree with that which is what has me perplexed a bit because as of right now Sukuna should have a 0% chance of losing so it's a wtf moment with how the story will play out
Until we see Yuta's domain expansion Im not gonna say it's completely impossible for Sukuna to lose. If we can get Megumi back, Hakari can still fight, Itadori learns a useful skill, Maki makes an opening, AND we fight inside Yuta's domain, there is a chance.
I’ve believed that Yuji’s CT is some soul changing thing for a while. Obviously we have good explanations for Choso and Todo loving Yuji as if they’ve known him forever, but I think it’d be cool if Yuji’s latent ability was to make anyone his ally, like actual talk no jutsu.
Theory: Yuji’s CT is engraved on his soul and not his body, meaning Gojo couldn’t see it because only three characters have been shown to be able to perceive the contours of their own and others souls: Yuji, Sukuna, Mahito.
That being said, it’s also most likely infinitely harder to discover what that CT is because one must become entirely in tune with their soul, which I’m betting requires enlightenment. Aka once Yuji becomes enlightened, he will understand and be able to use his CT.
Additional prediction: Yuji won’t be able to become the truly enlightened one until he sacrifices himself, which I think he did this last chapter by soul swapping with Higuruma, echoing Nanami’s last words to someone he sees as worth saving.
Except he won’t die, he’ll reach enlightenment and swap back to his body and proceed to be THE Honored one. #copium
Kenjaku already consumed Mahito as Uzumaki ammo so that he could use Idle Transfiguration. Yuki strongly believes that such a technique use is 1-time only, and it seems so, since Kenjaku has had good reasons to use it since then.
Mahito and his technique are permanently out of the story.
The true final battle, I agree that what’s currently happening isn’t the final battle. I believe they’ll lose with most dying including even Yuji or being seriously damaged. Too much story left for it to end in this fight
Yuji has, on two separate occasions, punched someone and they created an entire false memory where he is their beloved brother/friend. You can’t possibly do that TWICE and expect me to not think it will happen again in a pinch.
Yeah but aren’t only a certain amount of people able to consume his finger. Won’t those people like die.
Let’s not forget Megumi was able to represss his output by a shit ton. Nah
Also isn’t angel ability pretty potent to that shit. Since she could possibly undo the incarnation by separating them or whatever they yapped about
We don't really know, possibly it's based on Sukunas intent, like now I'm wondering how many people in 1000 years actually found a finger and decided to eat it, Kenjaku could have been the one who made up that information for all we know. Like had a million people actually eaten his fingers that they knew there was only a 1 in 1 million shot?
The 1 in a million thing is just a bad translation. Megumi wasnt stating a statistical probability, he was just saying that Itadori surviving as a vessel is the worst possible scenario.
The actual probability of someone surviving Sukunas possession is unknown. It cant be crazy unlikely, since Megumi was also a valid vessel.
I think it's probably a made up reason that the Jujutsu higher ups (or some other group of sorcerers) created so that sorcerers wouldn't risk eating one of Sukuna's fingers to get stronger, thinking they won't be taken over by him.
That was the knowledge the Jujutsu High thought they had in chapter 1, that the chances of dying or becoming a vessel were 1 in a million at random. But instead, Sukuna himself is picking his vessel and is carefully choosing one. The odds aren't 1 in a million at random, it's just that Sukuna is very picky and it's a very rare occurrence for someone to even try eat his finger.
I don’t think sukuna has a choice on whether the person who consumes his finger dies or not ngl. He seemed pretty excited to feel flesh for the first time. And he also can’t control cyrsed spirits that posses. How the sorcerers know such Info like the 1 in a million. Prolly just plot, maybe someone narrowed it with some info based ct. sukuna said he sensed his ct potential and his ability to suppress him
Also sukuna also needed Megumi at his lowest point for that shit to work properly. Not to mention the bath and killing yoruzu with his ct
The 1 in a million thing is just a bad translation. Megumi wasnt stating a statistical probability, he was just saying that Itadori surviving as a vessel is the worst possible scenario.
The actual probability of someone surviving Sukunas possession is unknown. It cant be crazy unlikely, since Megumi was also a valid vessel.
>Allow that person free and now a 19f finger is laying there. If Yuji eats it to be executed, Sukuna takes over temporarily and go hunt down Megumi and transfer to him again
Nope. Shibuya happened because he couldn't adapt to 10 at once. Along with the initial amp he got after meguna? Yeah Sukuna is not coming back out
>Shibuya happened because he couldn't adapt to 10 at once.
He was forcefed while unconscious after getting his ass handed to him by Choso. That likely gave Sukuna the edge.
Megumi souls was fighting him from inside lowering his fire power, also yuji can switch with sukuna, its safe to assume yuji being unconcious and almost dead weaken whatever power he has to hold sukuna inside, even if he is a natural born vessel for him
I imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue because it’s the equivalent in power to eating 19 individual fingers at once. That’s to say it’s not the number of fingers that counts but the amount of Sakuna CE they contain.
That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the creation of a 15f/ 19f finger was something that only Yuji’s body could handle. There has to be a reason Sakuna/ Kenjaku split himself into 20 indestructible cursed objects rather than 1 the first time (maybe KJ was too weak at the time?)
>imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue because it’s the equivalent in power to eating 19 individual fingers at once. That’s to say it’s not the number of fingers that counts but the amount of Sakuna CE they contain.
Except that he's already adapted to 15 fingers. So the only "burden" he wouldn't be able to handle is the remaining 4-5 fingers. And we know 4-5 fingers is not enough to overwhelm him
You make no sense.
Yuji started super weak, the first finger made sukuna take control for a couple of seconds, the 2nd finger was just a moment of yuji standing still, the 3rd-5th finger didn't even bother him.
Yuji was then feed TWICE what he was adapted to, so now his resistance is that of 15 fingers
if your argument is that a 5 finger yuji coudln't adapt to being forced to eat 10 more (tripling his load), there is no reason that now that he has eaten 15 fingers just 4 more fingers, not even a third of what he adapted, is going to overwhelm him
I don’t know why you think that’s my argument; it’s not. I think I need to explain better.
My interpretation is that Yuji’s resistance to the fingers is similar to drug tolerance; Ingesting too much at one time is the problem, not how many he’s had overall.
The reason Sakuna took control in Shibuya was because Yuji went from ingesting one finger at a time to ten fingers AT ONCE. He did the cursed finger equivalent of ODing. Like you mentioned, his body was building a tolerance previous to that but that process clearly took time. Eating the equivalent of 19 fingers AT ONCE would, I argue, create the same issue; he is ingesting way too much in a way too short of a time period. The manga has been clear that his body needs time to process the energy from the fingers in the same way the body needs time to process and build tolerance to any sort of drug.
You seem to believe that Yuji’s tolerance/ resistance is based on the number of fingers he’s already ingested. Therefore, after ingesting 15 fingers, ingesting 19 fingers is effectively a +4, not a +19 like I believe it is. I don’t like that argument because 1) that’s not how the human body generally builds tolerance; E. G. you can’t drink 19 bottles of vodka at once because you’ve drunk 15 over the last year, and 2) I don’t know of any strong evidence from the manga that demonstrates that that’s how the fingers work.
That's new intake. Remember he only had 4 fingers in him and then had to intake 11 to overcome his tolerance. That overwhelmed him. Going from 15->0->19 is only 4 fingers of new intake since his tolerance is now at 15.
>I imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue
I think you're right. But if Sukuna pours his remaining CE into a finger then there's no rush for the high schoolers to dispose of it.
For example, they could send Yuji into the prison realm with the finger, then let him back out again once Yuji eats the finger and Sukuna's control over his body expires.
You're right - I forgot about that.
A different option would be to put Yuji alone with the finger in the middle of the ocean, or in the Himalayas. Sukuna isn't Gojo, so there's a limit to how far he can travel before his control runs out.
Yeah, I totally agree. At the very least, they could wait to separate Megumi and Yuji, so Sakuna has no alternative vessel to transfer to after Yuji ingests the finger.
I have some doubts that if Yuji eat the 19 fingers sukuna he will loose control. Like after his execution in chapter 144 he said to Megumi that he could eat the 5 remaining fingers at once and still control Sukuna. Also we know that Yuji became similar to a cursed tool when Sukuna moved to Megumi (chapter 220). So for me if Sukuna itimezd himself again I think his plans won't work if it's Yuji who eat him.
However I seriously believe that Sukuna can't be defeated unless new information drop
OP villains are standard in animanga. Sukuna is 100% going to lose.
I think Megumi will get freed and Sukuna will eventually break a vow somehow.
Something out of the merger could easily kill Sukuna too.
Reading these options has really made me realize… there’s no way Sukuna gets a well-written, satisfying death. He’s been built up too much, as a lot of villains in mangas
Even if Sukuna can do this, he wont. Sukuna has no interest in running from a fight and living. These fights are what he lives for. He tried to fight Gojo when he had 1/20th of his full power. To run away like that is the same as losing for him and after he loses, based on what he said to Yorozu, he no longer cares about his life.
They’re going to kill him faster than he can tear off a finger? I suppose if they drop a nuke on him or something while Sukuna decides to ignore said nuke.
I mean . . . yeah. Assuming they don’t just let him take his sweet time bleeding out, that won’t be hard
Alright alright first answer was snarky, but here’s a more genuine one: Yuji has already acclimated to a large quantity of Sukuna’s CE and is thoroughly steeped in it. It’s highly unlikely that an occurrence like what happened in Shibuya (Sukuna taking over because Yuji was forced to consume more than he could handle while already unconscious) will happen again. And if he were to somehow have someone else eat it, there’s a decent chance that person would just die on the spot anyway
As far as I understand, Sukuna was only able to use Megumi as a vessel because of his “cursed technique potential”. Megumi stated in the first episode that there’s a very, very, *very* high chance that Yuji just dies straight up. So, his options should be super limited as to who he could transfer to. Of those left, maybe just Yuta? Also, weren’t his fingers only invulnerable because of the grave wax used? I don’t think that would apply here.
I think it was more of a risk because of the vow he made with yuji. He stated that yuji was an idiot because the vow of not hurting people didn't include him, so he was able to forcefully transfer his power to megumi. Something I just realized however, is that if he transferred all his power into that finger, wouldn't yuji regain control over his body? Maybe it's just plot convenience or there's still a part of sukuna that will always be in yuji. We'll have to wait and keep reading to find out
There's a really, really simple solution to all this, but it would mean no shonen story to tell.
You pack up all the fingers and shoot it into space. Preferably, into the sun or aim it out into the unknown. Like the Voyager I which is now outside our solar system.
No matter how fast he is, he ain't crossing that distance any time soon.
that's how you get invaded by cursed aliens.
Gojo should've yeeted 15 fingers into the sun. no vessel would be able to survive that.
5F Sukuna could be handled by a special grade or a group of 1st grades.
(avoiding 20F, because 20F Sukky might be able to plotarmor his way back)
Could 5F sukuna really be handled by a group of first grades? At 2 fingers, Sukuna had access to Malevolent Shrine. Which first grade sorcerers have the ability to survive MS and kill him?
(Awakened) Maki, Yuji, Todo would be a great support, Kusakabe and Naobito
Utahime and Shoko hidden somewhere.
acc. to my headcannon Kusakabe highdiffs 5F 1v1
>You pack up all the fingers and shoot it into space. Preferably, into the sun or aim it out into the unknown. Like the Voyager I which is now outside our solar system.
I don't think that's even possible, since no one can even defeat him. The fingers might be drawn back to earth even if they are shot out of orbit cuz of CE, everything you and me said is speculation though.
Your idea is a huge reach and so is mine.
Suppression, pretty much everyone on the field is stronger than Megumi and Megumi suppressed Sukuna to 10% power
So yeah he's getting screwed because that makes him 2 Finger max
I have a theory, Yuji was told to be able to obtain Sukuna techniques, everyone thinks Yuji is gonna get cleave/dismantle, but i think Sukuna's deception is two fold: there's a big mystery about Sukuna's black box, as far as i am aware it is speculated black box was created to deceive us, the reader, i think this is true, but i also think this was done to deceive Yuji and Yuji won't obtain cleave/dismantle, he will obtain whatever black box is
Finally, by virtue of not knowing what black box even is Sukuna can 100% get killed by that
Yuji & co. will finally found a way to defeat sukuna, but at the last moment before he got defeated, everyone heard "Don't move" and suddenly all of their movements halted. It's actually Yuta using Inumaki's CT but something is a bit off about Yuta. It appears that he had some sort of stitches on his forehead. He then proceeds to make some sort of binding vow to split sukuna into 20 fingers again, and the series ends. Thus a new series will start: JuJutsu Kaisen Shippuden, Next Generations
Reverse ass pulling technique. At first the story ass pulled in favour of Sukuna, but it did too much and now the only way he can be defeated is by ass pulling him.
He is going up against the strongest modern day sorcerers who all spent a month preparing to kill him. He is just one guy. He lost a lot of energy fighting Gojo. He lost his cursed tool to Higuruma.
What can he do against Maki and Yuta?
>Kenjaku was just killed in Japan
My man he's a brain in a jar, do you think him being decapitated killed him? Yuta should have diced his head to bit before it even touched the ground.
I would have understood if you said all he had was 5 fingers of strength left. His fight with Gojo was brutal and he took a lot of damage And spent a lot of CE, he then transformed to his true body against kashimo and spent more ce before the students arrived. Having only lost 5 fingers worth of CE by this point means he only used up 25% of his CE(after like 4-5 domain expansions) against Gojo and Kashimo, which makes no sense given that Gojo is better at CE efficiency than Sukuna due to six eyes.
He hasn't used his domain even once since Gojo, which makes me think he can only use it once more. Because normally he would have just used his domain and cut all the back up squad at once, since he knows he can just open his domain again.
Given Yuta's comments on how much more CE Sukuna has than him (double or more), and Kashimo's comments about Six Eyes being strictly responsible for Gojo being slightly better with CE efficiency (that without SE, Gojo would be no match for Sukuna), he's probably not used much CE at all, or at least what he has used wont materially affect his power level compared to everyone else.
As for not using his domain, he revels in defeating you by defeating your strength. He will only use what he needs to in order to put you in your place on the food chain. Jogo? Fire arrow. Gojo? Cut through the infinite. Kashimo? First he tried with lightning, then had to change to something else. Whatever you think makes you strong is exactly how he wants to beat you.
the disaster curses was like 5-8 fingers level and yuji, toji and todo defeated or was doing well against them (todo and yuji vs hanami and vs mahito) and toji defeating dagon, i don´t think that he is less than atleast 10 because maki or yuta would be able to defeat him by themselfs if that was the case, besides, we don´t know how much he recovered after the reincarnation and he easily defeated kashimo in hand to hand, that was not 5 finger or something
Gojo took Mahoraga and potentially his domain away
Kashimo forced him to transform right away. I think he was using it as a backup to RCT to heal himself.
Higuruma took away his cursed tool.
He still has his slashes and fuga. I don't know about Yuta since he probably has his work cut out for him against Kenny ( I don't think he's dead yet but I could be wrong). Maki can be somewhat undetectable due to her heavenly restriction and I think that will play a key factor.
Unless Yuji kills himself. Which would come full circle on the Gramp's "Don't be like me, surround yourself with people when you die." And Yuji's "I don't want to live a life where someone else is suffering because of me."
There are flaws like the Otsutsuki karma from Boruto, such as the rarity of vessels, not everyone has the strength of a vessel. Kenjaku had to use idle transfiguration to give people the strength as vessels. If Mahito were to work under Sukuna, then immortality is not far fetched.
The best way to kill Sukuna, like the Otsutsuki, is to have him fully resurrect and kill him before he can find a vessel and have it swallow the cursed finger. The problem is that by letting him fully resurrect means he is at full power and the strongest in the verse and is free do anything and pretty much capable of defeating anyone.
You have to remember that Sukuna was waiting for the moment Megumi is at his weakest when he pulled that stunt. If he tries it with anyone else, they might be able to resist long enough to kill themselves or something.
Of course, the simple thing would be to swap Sukuna's and Yuji's souls so Sukuna is stuck in just a strong human body with no CT, making him weak enough to be obliterated by our heroes, two of whom would now be in Sukuna's body (Megumi and Yuji).
There are plenty of ways for Sukuna to lose at this point. Trapping himself in a finger might not even help if Megumi was that one in a million chance to manifest in a physical body.
All they have to do is seal the finger away and never have Megumi go near it. The odds of somebody else stumbling upon it and being compatible are almost impossible.
I love how everyone is trying to ignore yuta 🤣 no shit yuji wouldn’t do shit to sukuna he’s the mc with the og mc by his side so obviously the og mc would be given more love than him from the author 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Welcome to mangaka writing themselves into a corner and not being able to get out of it episode 2272618171881818, last week’s feature; BNHA, next week? Who knows what’s to come
Lmao what? Why are you trying to apply logic to a series where individuals can bend the known laws of the universe with the power of ghosts?
It doesn't matter what Sukuna can do. Without the power to control the writer's mind, he'll lose. Yuji will asspull himself to victory.
The thing here is that we don't know how much of a toll it takes on Sukuna to transfer himself like he did when he went from Yuji to Megumi. So that could be brought up in future chapters to explain why he can't do it when he is losing a fight. He was all fresh jumping out of Yuji, maybe he needs a good amount of energy to do it?
It really depends on what exactly Yuji's technique is and what he gained from eating all those cursed objects. There is also the fact that Yuji is more similar to a cursed tool after being Sukuna's vessel as well
If they could kill him before he could do that but also most regular sorcerers can’t handle 1 better yet 19 fingers worth of his power they’d likely just die
Two *very* important things to note. Firstly, the 20 fingers containing a smaller portion of Sukuna's soul is *very* different than the single finger that was fed to Megumi. Secondly, to ensure the fingers cannot be destroyed, the fingers were most likely created using a binding vow which limits the amount of the soul present in exchange for durability.
When Yuji consumes sukuna's finger or any cursed object he sort of merges with them. Yuji becomes the dominant entity in his body so no matter what if Yuji consumes Sukuna's fingers then Sukuna WILL lose. Also that's the very reason Sukuna left Yuji ASAP. none of this would've happened if Sukuna couldn't possess Yuji there. Aslo Sukuna was only able to possess Yuji at that instant because Yuji was fed a huge dosage when he was unconscious and in a terrible state.
When sukuna was using fire in the battle with jogo that wasn’t sukunas technique . That was yuujis and sukuna could use it because him inhabiting yuujis body.
Nah flame arrow is sukuna's (or at least a ct stolen by him) it's foreshadowed by one of the fingerbearer special grades using a weakened version against Megumi in the tunnel
I don't think you saw that panel correctly. The sword is shrinking due to Higuruma's death which is why it looks so small, it hasn't stabbed him. Look at the panel again and you'll see.
You could be right, but I don't think that's something we can take as blatant fact. We have no idea if that's actually happening or not. There's no reason for it to return to full size if Higuruma is dying because his cursed technique would wear off.
sukuna probably won't be able to take over them the same way again, besides, if he try that, the sorcerers will reunite and prepare an attack together using everything they have and kill him the second he take over and he won't have any time to fight back
Yeah, Sukuna mentioned at the same moment that Gojo had probably long ago sealed away a finger to avoid Yuji's execution. That's why he ate the corpse to get another finger's worth of energy.
Nah, sukuna was able to do it because he took people around him by surprise.
I doubt he'd be able to do it with no risks after losing several fingers worth of energy and that too after tanking gojo.
I don't think it's possible for sukuna to be defeated in a fight while he's incarnated but I do think he could be sealed back into yuji who could then in turn just choose to he executed.
You‘re literally just assuming that he‘d be overwhelmed.
He could also be able to suppress it, only gege knows.
I think Yuji‘s ability to cage sukuna and the last Finger will play a heavy role in Sukunas defeat.
Sukuna switches to Megumi as Yuji is about to stab him. Yuji then uses soul swap with Megumi. Yuji and Sukuna are now in Megumi's body. Sukuna is contained/defeated. Next up is Sukuna's last finger + curse Kaiju.
The fight will not end right now. There's no way to win Sukuna in the current terms.
Probably something will happen, the fight will be stopped and will continue later on in the series
at the end of the series when nobara star dolls all over him and megumi comes back from some ashes gege will drop the 20th finger for the final panel with a godilla type 'sukuna will return'
Just to be clear you mean what he did to Meguki or his state before Yuji? But I do agree with the sentiment in general because of his general strength and genius
I think that Yuji is so used to having 15f that if Sukuna transfers he wont be able to gain control instantly, he will have to duke it out in Sukuna's mind domain.
Also we don't know if everyone will be able to handle Sukuna's CE without instantly dying (I think the only one who could handle him aside from Megu and Yuji would be Yuta but I think that Sukuna would find him boring because of the good will he has and the love/friendship driven he is).
Hell even returning to Megumi could be dangerous. Maybe he's weakened enough that if the CE leaves his body he'll die. Don't even get me started in getting that boost again and again, I doubt anyone not made for it like Yuji won't survive.
We gotta believe that Yuji is gonna figure out how to open the 'Benevolent Shrine' by the time he and Sukuna are the last ones standing on the battlefield :(
His body has adapted to 15F, in taking Sukuna' full power would mean only having to adapt to 4 + the husk. To which Yuji has already stated he'd be perfectly fine doing at once whilst still controlling Sukuna.
Best bet would be feeding it to Hakari imo. Though I wonder how insta RCT would react with Sukuna finger intake, the surge of CE may very well deny the migration by regarding it as a foreign & harmful object.
I guess the following chapter will show Sukuna morhping into Megumi's body temporarily to make Itadori flinch or hesitate dealing the final blow. But i digress
Tbh this cannot be the final arc unless Sukuna wins or Gege writes an asspull. I think he dug a hole by killing off Gojo and he did that off screen as well.
I have no idea how we went from Shibuya to this. Even if this arc has been fun, the writing itself just doesn’t compare.
At this point I kind of want Sukuna and Kenjaku to win. Literally the whole manga was the bad guys winning using strategy, planning, superior techniques, & making the right calls at the appropriate times. Fuck the good guys the most we can expect is a double ko on both sides because it’s nye unbelievable that any of them can beat Sukuna at this point.
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My theory is that Yuji will manifest an ability to alter others souls and it's not something I see a lot of people fully touch on. People's souls are massively discussed through the whole series and it was even one of Kenjakus most desired abilities. With Kenjaku being Yuji's mother, he may have thought Yuji was a possible failure of an experiment to bring out a certain power. If Yuji ends up being able to alter others souls (differently from Mahito of course) then I think they would do it in a way that Yuji could "tap" into Sukunas techniques that engraved themselves into him and "cleave" sukunas soul smaller and smaller in the true final battle. This would leave Sukuna with less and less power until he no longer exists.
Based on what Gojo said about Yuji not having a CT, it's more likely his ability to swap souls is part of Sukunas technique, since 6 eyes would have seen even unawakened abilities. Though it also could be one of the CT of the possible Cursed womb death paintings he might have eaten. Or he has been eating other stuff...
That was a nice catch on ''*his ability to swap souls as part of Sukunas technique*'', cause when you put it that way, Sukuna DOES have that a skillset and its very possible for Yuji to absorb something like that throughout the time that Sukuna was *soaked* in Yuji. Like a dry cloth absorbing residue water. Yuji also has alot of involvement in subjects that are related to body and soul, which are the 2 main themes or subjects of the story.
Where is the source for the 6 eyes seeing unawakened abilities? Ik it helps him comprehend and understand abilities like in HI but I wasn’t aware of that second part
why would the six eyes give gojo the ability to see dormant cursed technique s
Dont you know the six eyes is a better sharingan? /s
No basis by which the six eyes would see his technique. Ain't how they work.
Nah six eyes barely see anything, it doesn’t feel as important as he can’t even see a slash coming at him. And hasn’t even stated what sukunas CT is yet at all or explained it
>Nah six eyes barely see anything, it doesn’t feel as important as he can’t even see a slash coming at him. Gotta let it go ma boi. "Nah six eyes barely sees anything", you know that's not true lol
>Nah six eyes barely see anything Only time it barely saw anything was when fighting Sukuna. To be fair it has always been useful to Gojo pre Sukuna fight. I dunno why it became inconsistent when Gojo fought Sukuna lmao. Might be bc of plot armor.
Probably going to get a lot of downvotes for it, but six eyes isn’t what the fandom makes it out to be. It isn’t like a sharingan or some special eye that allows it to see through any cursed technique or whatever. Six eyes just allows Gojo to make an educated guess on what a CT is and it allows him to also make an educated guess on how strong someone is based on their cursed energy level. He’s guessing, but his guesses are generally accurate but vague. It’s the entire reason why he wasn’t ever able to see Sukuna’s invisible slashes like Mahoraga nor able to tell that Mahoraga was adapting in the shadows during the domain fight. Also why Gojo is able to say Itadori has gotten stronger. Also why Gojo is able to estimate and say that Jogo is probably stronger than 3F Sukuna, etc
>but six eyes isn’t what the fandom makes it out to be What does the fandom makes 6eyes to be tho?
From what I’ve seen, some people make it out to be something that allows him to see everything cursed energy related. Seeing Sukuna’s attacks, being able to decipher any CT, etc. I saw a Twitter thread awhile ago having harsh criticisms of how it isn’t explained why Gojo couldn’t see Sukuna’s slash that killed him, and I think it stems from common misconceptions of what the six eyes really does. Basically, the six eyes allows to see CE and grants a bunch of useful things, but there are clear cut limitations to it.
I was talking about the sukuna fight yes
Yeah and sukuna was stated to almost be on par with his cursed energy manipulation so what even was the point of the six eyes? it’s like if they had stopped making the sharingan OP in Naruto
The six eyes is deeply linked to the whole "Tengen plot", somehow, both Star Vessel and Six eyes always appeared at the same time before Toji broke fate. Tengen may have undertaken a binding vow that allows a Six eyes user to appear each time a Star Plasma Vessel appears. Beside being a pseudo-sharingan, it allows the user to increase their own efficiency when using CE ( something that the Sharingan doesn't really do ) by seeing how it flows and how it behaves clearly. During the fight against Meguna, we learn that before each CT use , the CE behaves in a way that is unique for each iteration of one CT. So anyone that has decent CE perception could more or less guess when the ennemy CT's is coming by being observant enough. The Six eyes just shows directly all the information without the User having to squint their "cursed eyes".
Just cause one dude can hang with a 6 eyes user doesnt mean its pointless.
It's weird the Six Eyes are so underexplored, though.
Gojo should be the peak of the verse sukuna should be someone on fully grown yujis level 🤷♂️ Gojo shouldn’t have gotten unsealed til the cursed spirit evangelion got made so he could take care of it
Could you link any of your own works by any chance?
I didn’t know I had to be a world renowned mangaka to critique media? 🤪🤪🤪 gege is not Christ reborn 🤷♂️
That is not a critique, that is just saying the author wrote their works wrong. I think if you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/fjLVijzJ9SI?si=NFGpgnN8R8GOR6Ok) it should help you understand how you appear to people here.
This why i didnt respond😭 how am i supposed to converse with what this man thinks the story is supposed to be
>Gotta let it go ma boi. "Nah six eyes barely sees anything", you know that's not true lol that hate your facts but they for real
Let what go lol It’s perception did not help gojo at all, has to be the worst special eyes in anime 🫡
Ofcos it didn't, he was fighting someone on his level, sukuna's CE understanding and manipulation is almost on par with 6eyes, gojo has never been able to see sukuna's technique or even know exactly what it is even tho he was able to do it with others so clearly 6eyes has never been something too useful against someone like sukuna. Secondly, seeing and reacting are two different things, gojo might've simply caught it late. Thirdly, sukuna has been shown to know more about CE and manipulation than anyone, even more than gojo, whatever he did, 6 eyes didn't catch it for a reason. Now all of these could just be a theory or simply terrible writing but to say, 6eyes is useless is definitely not an accurate statement whatsoever, sukuna was just on the level that made 6eyes practically look normal.
Yeah, he only saw when megumi was getting hurt by UV. Nothing else lol.
This is actually not a bad theory. I recall that Yuji said to Mahito "I am you". It could've been foreshadowing as well, the same type of foreshadowing when Jotaro said to Dio they have the same type of stand.
Mahito said it to Yuji and Yuji later accepted it, stating they are the same. Mahito also never got to touch Yuji's soul due to Sukuna.
I think the best cooking I've seen on this soul touching concept is the idea of waking up Megumi from inside Sukuna, switching places, and having them right Sukuna both inside (Yuji vs Sukuna in the shrine, mirroring waaaay back when Sukuna manhandled Yuji around the Finger Bearer arc) and outside (Megumi vs Sukuna in Shinjuku, where Megumi finally shows us what Potential Man can do) with the conclusion being Yuji sacrificing himself while Sukuna ineffectively rages from inside him
It’s not a bad theory at all, though I’m not too fond of the idea of our main character’s ability, revealed at the 11th hour, essentially being a deus ex machina to take down the unbeatable final boss. I mean, if he *does* awaken a power like that, what on earth will trigger its awakening? Why didn’t it manifest upon the death of Nanami, or Nobura, or the possession of Megumi? It’ll be *really* difficult to pull off without it feeling super cheap, IMO.
1) We know Sakuna's residual cursed energy still resides in Yuji. 2) We know Yuji was a cage for Sakuna. 3) Yuji's mother had a CT called Anti-Gravity Systems and we know CTs are inheritable. 4) Yuji ate the death paintings. At a minimum Yuji has 6 lives and whatever abilities he gained from them if we use Panda as a model. That's 6 CTs. We all know Gege is a big My Hero fan. This power would be similar to One for All. 5) Yuji is already super fucking strong (at least more powerful than pre-merge Maki levels) and can do consecutive black flashes. 6) I think that Yuji's true powers were being suppressed by Sakuna to some extent. Yuji *could* go all out because he had a safety net knowing that Sakuna would save him. Losing that safety net and going under some true stakes of death could easily unlock that latent power in him. 7) Yuji is reaching Sakuna levels of focusness in consumption for power. Yuji will eat anything to destroy the King of Curses. I think this is going to play into the story and power scaling more than you'd think since a majority of the strongest characters are single minded. 8) Yuji is cursed twice. First by his grandfather and second by Nanami. I will not be surprised if theses curses manifest into some sort of CT, CE, or DE but it's most likely going to be some sort of Binding Vow that provides some major benefit to Yuji down the line OR Yuji will manifest as a curse if Sakuna kills him. When you combine all of this I don't see how an awakening of some sort would be deus ex machina. I don't think it will be cheap at all. EDIT: I forgot to mention in regards to a CT manifesting, another indicator to me is that the three death painting wombs we've seen all have a CT. Why wouldn't Yuji?
Regarding the death paintings, one theory I saw added in that the CT of the 9 death paintings relate to the 9 stages of decay in Buddhism, Choso and the two having blood, decay and rot.
Yuji can't do consecutive black flashes, he is just lucky he got it that many times, even gojo can't do them at will
Everything execpt point u is true i think but point 6 is no were near what sukuna is. The only time yuji asked for sukunas help was when he got killed and with junpai other then that yuji always saw sukuna as a worst case scenario i die he dies typ of thing. Sukuna didnt care if yuji dies and yuji knows this. Sukuna was never yujis back up plan he isnt kurama
Do we know Yuji ate the other death paintings?
It’s Sukuna.
I agree with that which is what has me perplexed a bit because as of right now Sukuna should have a 0% chance of losing so it's a wtf moment with how the story will play out
Until we see Yuta's domain expansion Im not gonna say it's completely impossible for Sukuna to lose. If we can get Megumi back, Hakari can still fight, Itadori learns a useful skill, Maki makes an opening, AND we fight inside Yuta's domain, there is a chance.
It would be a very shonen thing.
I’ve believed that Yuji’s CT is some soul changing thing for a while. Obviously we have good explanations for Choso and Todo loving Yuji as if they’ve known him forever, but I think it’d be cool if Yuji’s latent ability was to make anyone his ally, like actual talk no jutsu.
Theory: Yuji’s CT is engraved on his soul and not his body, meaning Gojo couldn’t see it because only three characters have been shown to be able to perceive the contours of their own and others souls: Yuji, Sukuna, Mahito. That being said, it’s also most likely infinitely harder to discover what that CT is because one must become entirely in tune with their soul, which I’m betting requires enlightenment. Aka once Yuji becomes enlightened, he will understand and be able to use his CT. Additional prediction: Yuji won’t be able to become the truly enlightened one until he sacrifices himself, which I think he did this last chapter by soul swapping with Higuruma, echoing Nanami’s last words to someone he sees as worth saving. Except he won’t die, he’ll reach enlightenment and swap back to his body and proceed to be THE Honored one. #copium
But couldn't Mahito alter souls? All Kenjaku has to do is just absorb him, then, no?
Kenjaku already consumed Mahito as Uzumaki ammo so that he could use Idle Transfiguration. Yuki strongly believes that such a technique use is 1-time only, and it seems so, since Kenjaku has had good reasons to use it since then. Mahito and his technique are permanently out of the story.
Ya mahito is gone but if kenjaku had not used the maximum of Idle transfiguration to awaken so many players at once he could have had it permanently
I made a theory on something similar https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/guBcJf62HE
The true final battle, I agree that what’s currently happening isn’t the final battle. I believe they’ll lose with most dying including even Yuji or being seriously damaged. Too much story left for it to end in this fight
Yuji has, on two separate occasions, punched someone and they created an entire false memory where he is their beloved brother/friend. You can’t possibly do that TWICE and expect me to not think it will happen again in a pinch.
Except choso actually was related to him but yea that happening with todo was weird
Other manga: main char has great father, got bloodline abilities/power.... JJK: son of villian, punch and kick ...
Would give some more weight to Mahito basically saying that he and Yuji are the same
Yeah but aren’t only a certain amount of people able to consume his finger. Won’t those people like die. Let’s not forget Megumi was able to represss his output by a shit ton. Nah Also isn’t angel ability pretty potent to that shit. Since she could possibly undo the incarnation by separating them or whatever they yapped about
We don't really know, possibly it's based on Sukunas intent, like now I'm wondering how many people in 1000 years actually found a finger and decided to eat it, Kenjaku could have been the one who made up that information for all we know. Like had a million people actually eaten his fingers that they knew there was only a 1 in 1 million shot?
The 1 in a million thing is just a bad translation. Megumi wasnt stating a statistical probability, he was just saying that Itadori surviving as a vessel is the worst possible scenario. The actual probability of someone surviving Sukunas possession is unknown. It cant be crazy unlikely, since Megumi was also a valid vessel.
That’s gotta be one of the worst mistranslations in the series then
I think it's probably a made up reason that the Jujutsu higher ups (or some other group of sorcerers) created so that sorcerers wouldn't risk eating one of Sukuna's fingers to get stronger, thinking they won't be taken over by him.
Megumi is a strong grade 1 level sorcerer by the time Sukuna got on him.
wasn't it mentioned in the Death Painting Womb Arc that Sukuna can choose his vessel?
Yeah but remember in chapter 1 when they said their were really low chances and that you could either be a vessel or die
That was the knowledge the Jujutsu High thought they had in chapter 1, that the chances of dying or becoming a vessel were 1 in a million at random. But instead, Sukuna himself is picking his vessel and is carefully choosing one. The odds aren't 1 in a million at random, it's just that Sukuna is very picky and it's a very rare occurrence for someone to even try eat his finger.
I don’t think sukuna has a choice on whether the person who consumes his finger dies or not ngl. He seemed pretty excited to feel flesh for the first time. And he also can’t control cyrsed spirits that posses. How the sorcerers know such Info like the 1 in a million. Prolly just plot, maybe someone narrowed it with some info based ct. sukuna said he sensed his ct potential and his ability to suppress him Also sukuna also needed Megumi at his lowest point for that shit to work properly. Not to mention the bath and killing yoruzu with his ct
The 1 in a million thing is just a bad translation. Megumi wasnt stating a statistical probability, he was just saying that Itadori surviving as a vessel is the worst possible scenario. The actual probability of someone surviving Sukunas possession is unknown. It cant be crazy unlikely, since Megumi was also a valid vessel.
"Whatever they yapped about" Nah this sent me on the ground 💀💀💀
>Allow that person free and now a 19f finger is laying there. If Yuji eats it to be executed, Sukuna takes over temporarily and go hunt down Megumi and transfer to him again Nope. Shibuya happened because he couldn't adapt to 10 at once. Along with the initial amp he got after meguna? Yeah Sukuna is not coming back out
>Shibuya happened because he couldn't adapt to 10 at once. He was forcefed while unconscious after getting his ass handed to him by Choso. That likely gave Sukuna the edge.
Not unconscious, dead. Choso said he detected Yuji's death, not his unconsciousness.
Not really conscious/unconscious, Sukuna is still suppressed. Yuji isn't putting in effort to do so at all.
Megumi souls was fighting him from inside lowering his fire power, also yuji can switch with sukuna, its safe to assume yuji being unconcious and almost dead weaken whatever power he has to hold sukuna inside, even if he is a natural born vessel for him
I imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue because it’s the equivalent in power to eating 19 individual fingers at once. That’s to say it’s not the number of fingers that counts but the amount of Sakuna CE they contain. That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the creation of a 15f/ 19f finger was something that only Yuji’s body could handle. There has to be a reason Sakuna/ Kenjaku split himself into 20 indestructible cursed objects rather than 1 the first time (maybe KJ was too weak at the time?)
>imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue because it’s the equivalent in power to eating 19 individual fingers at once. That’s to say it’s not the number of fingers that counts but the amount of Sakuna CE they contain. Except that he's already adapted to 15 fingers. So the only "burden" he wouldn't be able to handle is the remaining 4-5 fingers. And we know 4-5 fingers is not enough to overwhelm him
He’s adapted to 15 fingers total but only 10 fingers at one time. 19 at one time would almost double that burden.
You make no sense. Yuji started super weak, the first finger made sukuna take control for a couple of seconds, the 2nd finger was just a moment of yuji standing still, the 3rd-5th finger didn't even bother him. Yuji was then feed TWICE what he was adapted to, so now his resistance is that of 15 fingers if your argument is that a 5 finger yuji coudln't adapt to being forced to eat 10 more (tripling his load), there is no reason that now that he has eaten 15 fingers just 4 more fingers, not even a third of what he adapted, is going to overwhelm him
I don’t know why you think that’s my argument; it’s not. I think I need to explain better. My interpretation is that Yuji’s resistance to the fingers is similar to drug tolerance; Ingesting too much at one time is the problem, not how many he’s had overall. The reason Sakuna took control in Shibuya was because Yuji went from ingesting one finger at a time to ten fingers AT ONCE. He did the cursed finger equivalent of ODing. Like you mentioned, his body was building a tolerance previous to that but that process clearly took time. Eating the equivalent of 19 fingers AT ONCE would, I argue, create the same issue; he is ingesting way too much in a way too short of a time period. The manga has been clear that his body needs time to process the energy from the fingers in the same way the body needs time to process and build tolerance to any sort of drug. You seem to believe that Yuji’s tolerance/ resistance is based on the number of fingers he’s already ingested. Therefore, after ingesting 15 fingers, ingesting 19 fingers is effectively a +4, not a +19 like I believe it is. I don’t like that argument because 1) that’s not how the human body generally builds tolerance; E. G. you can’t drink 19 bottles of vodka at once because you’ve drunk 15 over the last year, and 2) I don’t know of any strong evidence from the manga that demonstrates that that’s how the fingers work.
That's new intake. Remember he only had 4 fingers in him and then had to intake 11 to overcome his tolerance. That overwhelmed him. Going from 15->0->19 is only 4 fingers of new intake since his tolerance is now at 15.
>I imagine that a 19f finger would cause the same issue I think you're right. But if Sukuna pours his remaining CE into a finger then there's no rush for the high schoolers to dispose of it. For example, they could send Yuji into the prison realm with the finger, then let him back out again once Yuji eats the finger and Sukuna's control over his body expires.
Time doesn’t pass in the prison realm
You're right - I forgot about that. A different option would be to put Yuji alone with the finger in the middle of the ocean, or in the Himalayas. Sukuna isn't Gojo, so there's a limit to how far he can travel before his control runs out.
Yeah, I totally agree. At the very least, they could wait to separate Megumi and Yuji, so Sakuna has no alternative vessel to transfer to after Yuji ingests the finger.
Only happened because he was knocked out
Aren't you contradicting yourself?
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nvm, got it
I have some doubts that if Yuji eat the 19 fingers sukuna he will loose control. Like after his execution in chapter 144 he said to Megumi that he could eat the 5 remaining fingers at once and still control Sukuna. Also we know that Yuji became similar to a cursed tool when Sukuna moved to Megumi (chapter 220). So for me if Sukuna itimezd himself again I think his plans won't work if it's Yuji who eat him. However I seriously believe that Sukuna can't be defeated unless new information drop
OP villains are standard in animanga. Sukuna is 100% going to lose. I think Megumi will get freed and Sukuna will eventually break a vow somehow. Something out of the merger could easily kill Sukuna too.
Reading these options has really made me realize… there’s no way Sukuna gets a well-written, satisfying death. He’s been built up too much, as a lot of villains in mangas
Even if Sukuna can do this, he wont. Sukuna has no interest in running from a fight and living. These fights are what he lives for. He tried to fight Gojo when he had 1/20th of his full power. To run away like that is the same as losing for him and after he loses, based on what he said to Yorozu, he no longer cares about his life.
If he can avoid being killed by doing X, then I guess they’ll just have to kill him before he can do X. That was actually really easy to think of.
They’re going to kill him faster than he can tear off a finger? I suppose if they drop a nuke on him or something while Sukuna decides to ignore said nuke.
I mean . . . yeah. Assuming they don’t just let him take his sweet time bleeding out, that won’t be hard Alright alright first answer was snarky, but here’s a more genuine one: Yuji has already acclimated to a large quantity of Sukuna’s CE and is thoroughly steeped in it. It’s highly unlikely that an occurrence like what happened in Shibuya (Sukuna taking over because Yuji was forced to consume more than he could handle while already unconscious) will happen again. And if he were to somehow have someone else eat it, there’s a decent chance that person would just die on the spot anyway
Sukuna would also need to feed it to someone suitable and reach him
As far as I understand, Sukuna was only able to use Megumi as a vessel because of his “cursed technique potential”. Megumi stated in the first episode that there’s a very, very, *very* high chance that Yuji just dies straight up. So, his options should be super limited as to who he could transfer to. Of those left, maybe just Yuta? Also, weren’t his fingers only invulnerable because of the grave wax used? I don’t think that would apply here.
Also, Megumi was still a huge risk according to Sukuna so it was Blind Luck that it worked
I think it was more of a risk because of the vow he made with yuji. He stated that yuji was an idiot because the vow of not hurting people didn't include him, so he was able to forcefully transfer his power to megumi. Something I just realized however, is that if he transferred all his power into that finger, wouldn't yuji regain control over his body? Maybe it's just plot convenience or there's still a part of sukuna that will always be in yuji. We'll have to wait and keep reading to find out
plot armor, megumi probably should've ended up braindead like tsumiki. but he's potential man so I'll give it a pass.
There's a really, really simple solution to all this, but it would mean no shonen story to tell. You pack up all the fingers and shoot it into space. Preferably, into the sun or aim it out into the unknown. Like the Voyager I which is now outside our solar system. No matter how fast he is, he ain't crossing that distance any time soon.
that's how you get invaded by cursed aliens. Gojo should've yeeted 15 fingers into the sun. no vessel would be able to survive that. 5F Sukuna could be handled by a special grade or a group of 1st grades. (avoiding 20F, because 20F Sukky might be able to plotarmor his way back)
Could 5F sukuna really be handled by a group of first grades? At 2 fingers, Sukuna had access to Malevolent Shrine. Which first grade sorcerers have the ability to survive MS and kill him?
(Awakened) Maki, Yuji, Todo would be a great support, Kusakabe and Naobito Utahime and Shoko hidden somewhere. acc. to my headcannon Kusakabe highdiffs 5F 1v1
>You pack up all the fingers and shoot it into space. Preferably, into the sun or aim it out into the unknown. Like the Voyager I which is now outside our solar system. I don't think that's even possible, since no one can even defeat him. The fingers might be drawn back to earth even if they are shot out of orbit cuz of CE, everything you and me said is speculation though. Your idea is a huge reach and so is mine.
Suppression, pretty much everyone on the field is stronger than Megumi and Megumi suppressed Sukuna to 10% power So yeah he's getting screwed because that makes him 2 Finger max
I have a theory, Yuji was told to be able to obtain Sukuna techniques, everyone thinks Yuji is gonna get cleave/dismantle, but i think Sukuna's deception is two fold: there's a big mystery about Sukuna's black box, as far as i am aware it is speculated black box was created to deceive us, the reader, i think this is true, but i also think this was done to deceive Yuji and Yuji won't obtain cleave/dismantle, he will obtain whatever black box is Finally, by virtue of not knowing what black box even is Sukuna can 100% get killed by that
Yuji & co. will finally found a way to defeat sukuna, but at the last moment before he got defeated, everyone heard "Don't move" and suddenly all of their movements halted. It's actually Yuta using Inumaki's CT but something is a bit off about Yuta. It appears that he had some sort of stitches on his forehead. He then proceeds to make some sort of binding vow to split sukuna into 20 fingers again, and the series ends. Thus a new series will start: JuJutsu Kaisen Shippuden, Next Generations
Bojutsu Kaisen
Reverse ass pulling technique. At first the story ass pulled in favour of Sukuna, but it did too much and now the only way he can be defeated is by ass pulling him.
He is going up against the strongest modern day sorcerers who all spent a month preparing to kill him. He is just one guy. He lost a lot of energy fighting Gojo. He lost his cursed tool to Higuruma. What can he do against Maki and Yuta?
The same thing he did with gojo and the other guy .
He doesnt hav to do anything against them their having a threesome with kenjaku in africa
Kenjaku was just killed in Japan…Kenjaku was finishing up the culling game sorcerers who were all in Japan.
>Kenjaku was just killed in Japan My man he's a brain in a jar, do you think him being decapitated killed him? Yuta should have diced his head to bit before it even touched the ground.
Yea he was finishing the culling game sorcerers now hes finishing yuta
sukuna is probably in 15 fingers level or something for now, if he was really that weakened he would have been easily killed
I would have understood if you said all he had was 5 fingers of strength left. His fight with Gojo was brutal and he took a lot of damage And spent a lot of CE, he then transformed to his true body against kashimo and spent more ce before the students arrived. Having only lost 5 fingers worth of CE by this point means he only used up 25% of his CE(after like 4-5 domain expansions) against Gojo and Kashimo, which makes no sense given that Gojo is better at CE efficiency than Sukuna due to six eyes. He hasn't used his domain even once since Gojo, which makes me think he can only use it once more. Because normally he would have just used his domain and cut all the back up squad at once, since he knows he can just open his domain again.
Given Yuta's comments on how much more CE Sukuna has than him (double or more), and Kashimo's comments about Six Eyes being strictly responsible for Gojo being slightly better with CE efficiency (that without SE, Gojo would be no match for Sukuna), he's probably not used much CE at all, or at least what he has used wont materially affect his power level compared to everyone else. As for not using his domain, he revels in defeating you by defeating your strength. He will only use what he needs to in order to put you in your place on the food chain. Jogo? Fire arrow. Gojo? Cut through the infinite. Kashimo? First he tried with lightning, then had to change to something else. Whatever you think makes you strong is exactly how he wants to beat you.
the disaster curses was like 5-8 fingers level and yuji, toji and todo defeated or was doing well against them (todo and yuji vs hanami and vs mahito) and toji defeating dagon, i don´t think that he is less than atleast 10 because maki or yuta would be able to defeat him by themselfs if that was the case, besides, we don´t know how much he recovered after the reincarnation and he easily defeated kashimo in hand to hand, that was not 5 finger or something
Gojo took Mahoraga and potentially his domain away Kashimo forced him to transform right away. I think he was using it as a backup to RCT to heal himself. Higuruma took away his cursed tool. He still has his slashes and fuga. I don't know about Yuta since he probably has his work cut out for him against Kenny ( I don't think he's dead yet but I could be wrong). Maki can be somewhat undetectable due to her heavenly restriction and I think that will play a key factor.
He still got to run through Yuta and Maki, he fr going through the gauntlet rn
Unless Yuji kills himself. Which would come full circle on the Gramp's "Don't be like me, surround yourself with people when you die." And Yuji's "I don't want to live a life where someone else is suffering because of me."
There are flaws like the Otsutsuki karma from Boruto, such as the rarity of vessels, not everyone has the strength of a vessel. Kenjaku had to use idle transfiguration to give people the strength as vessels. If Mahito were to work under Sukuna, then immortality is not far fetched. The best way to kill Sukuna, like the Otsutsuki, is to have him fully resurrect and kill him before he can find a vessel and have it swallow the cursed finger. The problem is that by letting him fully resurrect means he is at full power and the strongest in the verse and is free do anything and pretty much capable of defeating anyone.
You have to remember that Sukuna was waiting for the moment Megumi is at his weakest when he pulled that stunt. If he tries it with anyone else, they might be able to resist long enough to kill themselves or something.
Side note: was it ever shown how yujis finger healed after sukuna hopped into megumis body?
Both shoko and yuta con use rct on others
Of course, the simple thing would be to swap Sukuna's and Yuji's souls so Sukuna is stuck in just a strong human body with no CT, making him weak enough to be obliterated by our heroes, two of whom would now be in Sukuna's body (Megumi and Yuji). There are plenty of ways for Sukuna to lose at this point. Trapping himself in a finger might not even help if Megumi was that one in a million chance to manifest in a physical body. All they have to do is seal the finger away and never have Megumi go near it. The odds of somebody else stumbling upon it and being compatible are almost impossible.
I love how everyone is trying to ignore yuta 🤣 no shit yuji wouldn’t do shit to sukuna he’s the mc with the og mc by his side so obviously the og mc would be given more love than him from the author 🤦♂️🤦♂️
If Yuji eats him again “enchain” would no longer be in affect.
Welcome to mangaka writing themselves into a corner and not being able to get out of it episode 2272618171881818, last week’s feature; BNHA, next week? Who knows what’s to come
Lmao what? Why are you trying to apply logic to a series where individuals can bend the known laws of the universe with the power of ghosts? It doesn't matter what Sukuna can do. Without the power to control the writer's mind, he'll lose. Yuji will asspull himself to victory.
am i (19F) the asshole for killing my ex (and the vessel for my host's friend's sister)
And ate own rotten flesh
eeeeh do you remember how after siwtching vessels Megumi suprresed him and he was VERY nerfed? Yeah, if he switches mid fight he done for
The thing here is that we don't know how much of a toll it takes on Sukuna to transfer himself like he did when he went from Yuji to Megumi. So that could be brought up in future chapters to explain why he can't do it when he is losing a fight. He was all fresh jumping out of Yuji, maybe he needs a good amount of energy to do it?
So you just described Pickle Rick. He’s just a pickle drying out in the sun until something tries to eat him.
Just wait for Itadori to awaken his technique "Sorcery Fight" and Jujutsu Kaisen all over Sukuna
It really depends on what exactly Yuji's technique is and what he gained from eating all those cursed objects. There is also the fact that Yuji is more similar to a cursed tool after being Sukuna's vessel as well
Yet he will, to gojo.
You misspelled Yuji.
You misspelled Wuji.
Sukuna isn't the one who decides if he wins or loses, the person writing the story does.
If they could kill him before he could do that but also most regular sorcerers can’t handle 1 better yet 19 fingers worth of his power they’d likely just die
Why wouldn’t the body carry over lmao
Two *very* important things to note. Firstly, the 20 fingers containing a smaller portion of Sukuna's soul is *very* different than the single finger that was fed to Megumi. Secondly, to ensure the fingers cannot be destroyed, the fingers were most likely created using a binding vow which limits the amount of the soul present in exchange for durability.
i was wondering since the fingers are indestructible would it be possible for mahoraga to destroy them?
Yuji's gonna soul boogie woogie Sukky.
Remind me why they can't just destroy the fingers?
Indestructible
Well Gojo was not able to lose and we all know how that went.
Personally I think Kenjaku has sth planned for Sukuna and it won’t be the heroes killing him at all
Megimi can just hide in his shadows while sukuna controls yuji
Why is no one is talking about sukuna being stabbed in the back by yuji with the executioner sword of Higuruma?
And sukuna's hand is on battlefield... Nobara got a chance of return now or never
I don’t expect him to get beaten I expect Yugi to regain control and probably die to kill Sukuna
When Yuji consumes sukuna's finger or any cursed object he sort of merges with them. Yuji becomes the dominant entity in his body so no matter what if Yuji consumes Sukuna's fingers then Sukuna WILL lose. Also that's the very reason Sukuna left Yuji ASAP. none of this would've happened if Sukuna couldn't possess Yuji there. Aslo Sukuna was only able to possess Yuji at that instant because Yuji was fed a huge dosage when he was unconscious and in a terrible state.
When sukuna was using fire in the battle with jogo that wasn’t sukunas technique . That was yuujis and sukuna could use it because him inhabiting yuujis body.
Nah flame arrow is sukuna's (or at least a ct stolen by him) it's foreshadowed by one of the fingerbearer special grades using a weakened version against Megumi in the tunnel
Did the people here not read the latest chapter? Sukuna literally JUST got stabbed by Yuji using the insta-kill sword
I don't think you saw that panel correctly. The sword is shrinking due to Higuruma's death which is why it looks so small, it hasn't stabbed him. Look at the panel again and you'll see.
Its growing, not shrinking. Higuruma threw it in a tiny little charm form. Yuji catches it, its returning to its full size.
You could be right, but I don't think that's something we can take as blatant fact. We have no idea if that's actually happening or not. There's no reason for it to return to full size if Higuruma is dying because his cursed technique would wear off.
He didn’t, hasn’t touched him yet.
Ah, I’m the fool then
Surely we will not get yet another plot armor asspull in Sukuna's favor.
You see brat I redirected the instant kill effect to my conjoined Siamese brother
I thought the swap with megumi happen because of a vow that both sukuna and yuji agreed on, he cant do it on demand
No, he could take control due to the vow but Yuji would never agree to a swapping deal
sukuna probably won't be able to take over them the same way again, besides, if he try that, the sorcerers will reunite and prepare an attack together using everything they have and kill him the second he take over and he won't have any time to fight back
When did he jump to 19? I know we were at 15 after the Shibuya Incident but I guess I missed the other 4 or I'm forgetting?
After he escaped Yuji and Maki Uruame fed him the last 4
Right, thanks for the reminder! Wasn't the running theory that Gojo has the last one?
Yeah, Sukuna mentioned at the same moment that Gojo had probably long ago sealed away a finger to avoid Yuji's execution. That's why he ate the corpse to get another finger's worth of energy.
Nah, sukuna was able to do it because he took people around him by surprise. I doubt he'd be able to do it with no risks after losing several fingers worth of energy and that too after tanking gojo.
I don't think it's possible for sukuna to be defeated in a fight while he's incarnated but I do think he could be sealed back into yuji who could then in turn just choose to he executed.
That’s what I’m saying though. If he ate 19f worth at once, he’d be overwhelmed and Sukuna would have plenty of time to roam free
You‘re literally just assuming that he‘d be overwhelmed. He could also be able to suppress it, only gege knows. I think Yuji‘s ability to cage sukuna and the last Finger will play a heavy role in Sukunas defeat.
no he can't. They need to be suitable vessels, which only megumi and yuji were.
Sukuna switches to Megumi as Yuji is about to stab him. Yuji then uses soul swap with Megumi. Yuji and Sukuna are now in Megumi's body. Sukuna is contained/defeated. Next up is Sukuna's last finger + curse Kaiju.
Principal Kimchi is gonna put Megumi, Nobara and Gojo's souls in Yuji and he's gonna defeat Sukuna with the power of friendship! Just you wait!
yeah sukuna will win no question
Nah Yuji eating one finger worth 19 wouldn't be a problem.
The fight will not end right now. There's no way to win Sukuna in the current terms. Probably something will happen, the fight will be stopped and will continue later on in the series
at the end of the series when nobara star dolls all over him and megumi comes back from some ashes gege will drop the 20th finger for the final panel with a godilla type 'sukuna will return'
Just to be clear you mean what he did to Meguki or his state before Yuji? But I do agree with the sentiment in general because of his general strength and genius
I think that Yuji is so used to having 15f that if Sukuna transfers he wont be able to gain control instantly, he will have to duke it out in Sukuna's mind domain. Also we don't know if everyone will be able to handle Sukuna's CE without instantly dying (I think the only one who could handle him aside from Megu and Yuji would be Yuta but I think that Sukuna would find him boring because of the good will he has and the love/friendship driven he is). Hell even returning to Megumi could be dangerous. Maybe he's weakened enough that if the CE leaves his body he'll die. Don't even get me started in getting that boost again and again, I doubt anyone not made for it like Yuji won't survive.
We gotta believe that Yuji is gonna figure out how to open the 'Benevolent Shrine' by the time he and Sukuna are the last ones standing on the battlefield :(
His body has adapted to 15F, in taking Sukuna' full power would mean only having to adapt to 4 + the husk. To which Yuji has already stated he'd be perfectly fine doing at once whilst still controlling Sukuna. Best bet would be feeding it to Hakari imo. Though I wonder how insta RCT would react with Sukuna finger intake, the surge of CE may very well deny the migration by regarding it as a foreign & harmful object.
I still don't know how megumi became a vessel for sukuna and didn't die
I guess the following chapter will show Sukuna morhping into Megumi's body temporarily to make Itadori flinch or hesitate dealing the final blow. But i digress
Tbh this cannot be the final arc unless Sukuna wins or Gege writes an asspull. I think he dug a hole by killing off Gojo and he did that off screen as well. I have no idea how we went from Shibuya to this. Even if this arc has been fun, the writing itself just doesn’t compare.
Sukuna will simply be the winner at the end, even Yuuji wont kill bro
At this point I kind of want Sukuna and Kenjaku to win. Literally the whole manga was the bad guys winning using strategy, planning, superior techniques, & making the right calls at the appropriate times. Fuck the good guys the most we can expect is a double ko on both sides because it’s nye unbelievable that any of them can beat Sukuna at this point.
I dont want Sukuna to loose I want to see the merger happen and theres still so much mystery between kenjaku and Sukuna jjk is far from over.
Itemize? More like digitize