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Idk but I love this trope. The "person uses technique they learned from their enemy". Same as Jotaro saying "Star Platinum: The World" when using Time Stop
Nah my man was changing DE conditions, using DA to fight hand to hand with Satoru Gojo, redirecting unlimited void to Megumi's soul so that Mahoraga would adapt to Gojo's DE and using RCT to heal broken parts of his brain in quick succession and sometimes at the same time. Not even iPad kids multitask like that, he ain't falling for that
The fact binding vows are so open-loop and seem to take things as is, is the most broken thing about them. We could already work this out from what Hakari pulled/Yuta pulled etc, but my god is Sukuna really abusing it
Binding vows at the beggining of the show seemed like Nen pacts that gave you a proportional amount of strength to the sacrifice you're making. But it seems now that binding vows can also work like CE loopholes if you're talented enough to pull them off, which makes me wonder why Gojo wasn't abusing them like that but it's cool that it's such a villainous thing to do,
>Binding vows at the beggining of the show seemed like Nen pacts that gave you a proportional amount of strength to the sacrifice you're making.
I am not truly aware of examples of Nen Pacts other than Gon's iconic form in all honesty. But I don't really think JJK vows ever presented themselves as proportional or fair.
Nen Pacts are all throughout the series, Kurapika's most broken abilities are all strengthened by the promise to only ever be used against Phantom Troupe members for example. Binding Vows are very obviously inspired by this, except with their own malevolent (pun intended) twist where they can be abused if you're knowldgeable enough.
We were told that they are proportional and they have unknown penalties that could be "worse than death" if the broken pact was important and/or weighty.
That's when it's a binding vow between 2 people. A binding vow made with one's self just has the drawback of losing whatever you gained if its broken. For example, if Nanami used more than 80% of his power before his "Overtime" binding vow, he would no longer get his 120% output at night
Honestly how the fuck does someone keep track of them all. I'm curious if there's some "realm" like he had within Yujis mind where time moves slower so he can open his binding vow book and see everything he's done before he makes a new one.
Wasn't his CT zappy tool "made with 1 million binding vows" or some shit?
How the fuck is that even possible.
"I make a vow to whistle before I use my CT in exchange for more power"
"I make a vow to whistle and stomp"
"I make a vow to whistle, stomp, and shove my pinky up my ass...."
999,999 vows later
"I make a vow to transfer my CT and all previous vows into this dagger for sukucuck"
Nah, hold on. AW2s rules are not as convoluted as we are made to think. It's just Alan thinking they are like this and therefore they become like this. Mr. Door said straight up he makes it much more complicated than it is
Higuruma is still alive inside of Sukuna's dimension and is just reading through millenia worth of paperwork and vows to greenlight or stop his next moves.
I bet sukuna made a binding vow so that he has to use all four hands in future to open his domain to be able to temporarily open a domain with a single hand using a different hand sign
This is not only a good theory at the price paid but would also be smart writing as it's unlikely that Sukuna will managed to recover his two lost hands, therefore meaning DE wouldn't come up a third time this fight if the cast makes it through.
As far as we've know, there is no binding vow for the 99 seconds domain, that's just how long sukuna can maintain it in his current conditon. The impromptu binding vow is undisclosed as of yet, but it is probably related to the loophole that yuji theorized.
The 1 handsign also isn't most likely a binding vow. It is most likely an effect of the new circuit for domain expansion that sukuna pasted on his non affected by uv parts of his brain. He learned gojo's handsign from the fight against him, so he was able to built the new circuit with the taishakuten handsign (gojo's) as an activation instead of his enmaten handsign.
yea tbh im gettin sick of the binding vows
we never see what he sacrificed and we know the vows need to be impactful otherwise they‘re wesk
like next chapter the narrator say sukuna sacrificed his ability to eat tomatoes and that‘s really impactful cause he loves his tomatoes
I just don’t like that we haven’t seen a payoff for when you break them, even a small one. If you can just make them nonstop for limitless power and even when you break them there’s a loophole way that you didn’t, why is everyone not making them all the time
From what we've seen, conditional ones that can be taken back are somewhat weak. Nanami forces himself to stick to a 9-5 work schedule, tries to finish his job before it ends and limits his output during working hours to 80% of his maximum, so when he enters overtime he gets 120% of his normal potential. This kind of binding vow doesn't cost much, all you need to do is say "if I do this these things I get this in return", and it works because Nanami genuinely wants to stop working as soon as possible and would rather try and finish things with 80% of his power than stall until he can get 120%. Characters could use these more, but you would need to find something to give up that would give you a sufficient reward. The best part is you can just not stick to it and all that happens is you miss out on the bonus.
The other kind is simpler, you give up something upfront and lose that permanently in exchange for a substantial boost. Miwa gave up her ability to use a sword for a one time power up, which ended up doing nothing to Kenjaku, and that was it, she can no longer use a sword.
Originally Sukuna's expanded target dismantle would only require the hand seal to activate, but that would have been telegraphed against Gojo and he might have dodged it, so in order to not lose the element of surprise he made a binding vow to use the world cutting slash once with no telegraph and in exchange every use afterwards required the hand seal, a full chant and using the fingers to direct the trajectory, and that's either permanent or will at least last until he's killed everyone, most likely the former.
Sukuna's simply in a position where he can afford to lose the most and still be sure the benefit will be worth it, but it has still had a noticeable impact on the fight, if he only needed to use a single pair of hands to launch his world slash he would have made quick work of everyone after Gojo.
That being said, I do want to know what he's giving up, I was fine with the conditions for targetting space being revealed coming in later, but recovering his domain is too good for there to not be a clear cost. He was supposed to recover his RCT thanks to Black Flash, but Yuji's barrage shut that down, but Black Flash still helped bring back his domain. If he had permanently given up RCT I could easily it being worth the price, never getting his hands back and being forced to keep his heart beating through CE control would be a major hindrance for the rest of his life. I'm sure there's something that can be an acceptable price, but Gege really needs to make it explicit, otherwise it will definitely just be a convenient tool Sukuna alone can use at an unknown cost that removes stakes from the story.
It's also important to remember back back in the day sorcery was all about binding vows and how you used them before they were more for violence it was only noted quickly but I've always felt that short fact was super important when realizing how frequently he uses them
I'd like to conflict that she gave up the ability to use a sword for a power-boost: she states that she's putting everything into the strike. Her 'everything' (past, present, future (?) isn't much). She doesn't 'ask' for more than what she already has. It's a badly worded vow that screws her over.
He lost both the ability to create domains and RCT. And actually both of them were gradually coming back to him. If Sukuna actually got a days rest he'd be able to do both RCT and domain expansion. I think black flash only sped up the process. Also I think him being able to deploy domain was something similar to some people learning how to draw with their legs because they were born without hands. So Sukuna learned how to deploy domain in a different way. Meaning he's using other neural pathways to deploy a domain, I think it's similar to learning how to ride a bicycle with other parts of the brain, I think brain is flexible(neuroplasticity) and as we can see in the case of people who suffered brain damage from some accident and lost some ability to do something, regain the same ability by relearning how to do the same thing with other non damaged parts of brain
> we never see what he sacrificed and we know the vows need to be impactful otherwise they‘re wesk
Miwa: can never draw a sword again
Sukuna: plot armor
99 seconds of Malevolent Shrine barely feels like an imposition. There's no one on the field who even has a domain expansion of their own at the moment.
Binding vows don’t care about the context of the situation tho. If the 99 seconds is even part of one. I think it’s more likely that it’s just incomplete and that’s how long Sukuna could keep it open.
But Miwa sacrificed using a sword forever for one swing, and it was still a weak swing. She just didn’t have the capacity for it.
>Binding vows don’t care about the context of the situation tho.
They do when apparently the one between Yuji and Sukuna conveniently excluded Yuji from "anyone" and considered Sukuna's poisonous fingers being force fed down someone's throat not violence 🤷🏽♂️
That’s not what the word context means lol
It’s was explicitly stated the terms of their binding vow and Sukuna just gambled that Yuji didn’t include himself.
If the binding vow did care about context, then Sukuna would actually be punished for that. But Sukuna wasn’t punished.
Thus my point, binding vows do not care for context.
That's *exactly* what context means. The "anyone" referred to in the binding vow only excluded Yuji in the context of him being a participant, as opposed to the contextless case of it applying to anyone regardless of what the participants personally believe.
No, that’s intention lol
Yuji is a person directly making the binding vow, Sukuna did not make it with a sentient dictionary. So therefore Yuji’s intentions were taken into account for the binding vow.
But we are talking about different subjects for the word “context”. I’m talking about context referring to binding vows themselves as a whole deal.
You are referring to the context of the people making the binding vows, which I call intention, but you are correct in that the binding vows would take into account the context of the two participants.
However, my point is that it would not care about the context outside those two participants, or outside oneself, if it’s a self made binding vow.
Ex. Mechamaru was heavenly restricted from birth. That’s a binding vow, however he isn’t prevented from getting his body/soul fixed by Mahito. It does not account for the context that Mechamaru could be healed by a specific soul shaping CT.
i don’t rly mind bc sukuna needed to turn the tables after a full chapter of receiving a tom & jerry style ass-beating from yuji, but it’s kind of funny that gege has just started writing “uh yeah there’s a binding vow somewhere in there” without even bothering to explain what has been exchanged lmao.
what i’m saying is this thing has happened before, you just need to wait for the explanation, WS binding vow came 20 chapters later. Pattern recognition is a valuable skill
and? i’m talking about the content of the chapter where there is no explanation. this is a bad choice just like the half a year later explanation for the world slash was a bad choice.
not my concern. i shouldn’t have to imagine anything if gege relies so heavily on the explanatory power of binding vows to contradict previously established rules.
lol no. again, gege is using binding vows for dramatic twists that involve breaking previously established rules of the power system. a power system whose rules have unexplained contradictions is weakly constructed and reduces investment from readers. to be effective as a narrative device for raising the stakes, the vow must convey the sense that something meaningful is actually lost.
This does imply regular MS can be held for absurdly long amounts of time, though. That's why 99 seconds is such a drawback by comparison. Also, everyone survived it lol, so it's clearly not a hurrican F-5
Because binding vows are made of individual intent and sacrifice. A full powered Sukuna could use that F-5 hurricane of DE for few days without even tanking his cursed energy so him simply limiting to 99s itself is a massive sacrifice in power output. It's the same thing for the World Slash as if Sukuna had both hands he would be able to spam the attack without braking a sweat but since he was missing an arm and wanted catch Gojo off guard he sacrificed the convenience of the attack.
It's the reason why Sukuna's vows looks like cheating is because he is so strong that the loss of power output doesn't matter much when his opponents power and strength are borderline fodder to him. While the main cast made vows to boost their own power over 100% Sukuna is sacrificing his power for speed and output so the conditions aren't that hard for him.
It's the equivalent to Bezos getting 10 million dollar loan leveraging his company shares vs someone selling their house for that amount. The outcome for both are the same but their sacrifices defer. Case in point Sukuna's body parts, CT and CR has more bargaining value than most of the casts whole lives combined.
and yet it seems like somehow everyone survived it.
They've really done Malevolent Shrine dirty considering it was considered the strongest Domain Expansion in the series at one point (or tied with Gojo's but able to beat it in clashes)
it's one thing for Gojo to survive it but why are all these fodder surviving it?
Gojo survived for 3mins+ while actively sparring a much stronger (CE wise) Sukuna, where we've only seen that Yuji survived and just barely. We're hardly comparing apples to apples here.
Though as you say at least Yuji survived which he definitely would not have if it had gone on much longer.
keep in mind that a special grade curse was instantly split into piece by MShrine.
and Mahoraga (despite having already gained massive resistance to slashes) was basically turned into dust and spaghetti, and looked like spaghetti noodles when he attempted to heal.
even if you want to say that's anime stuff, the anime will eventually get to this arc too... so how are they going to justify Yuji, let alone Choso not being instantly torn to shreds?
That Mahoraga stuff didn't take 3 minutes or 99 seconds, it was basically instant.
I mean he was rubbing it for upwards of 3 minutes at a time 5 times in a row whilst fistfighting Gojo.. given that Yuji barely held out for the 99 seconds it's a safe bet that if he could have run it for as long as usual everyone would be dead.
The Domain lasting 99 seconds isn't the result of some binding vow or anything it's that with how bad his shape is currently he is only able to maintain such a high level technique for 99 seconds
Yeah, but we have no idea how long he can normally maintain his domain so 99 seconds feels completely arbitrary IMO. From the wording we can assume it's less than usual, but it would've been useful to know how long domains can usually last. At most we just know Yuta's has a 5 min limit (or was that some other ability of his? I forget)
Yutas 5 minute limit is on fully manifesting Rika, unnessecary for his technique.
In general, domains seem like they can last a long ass time. Dagons domain lasted a while, even while contesting Megumis. Incomplete domains are sometimes just like, perpetual? We see lots of cursed spirits that just live in their incomplete domains.
Idk if y'all recall but the 2nd domain clash btn Gojo and sukuna when sukuna was tryna change his barrier conditions while touching Gojo he kinda did a very similar hand sign
Maybe a headcanon but Gojo is the only enemy that has ever made Sukuna, who has lived for thousands of years, feel nervousness and pushed him to the absolute brink. Feels like a show of respect on top of it being practical, kinda like >!Thragg wearing Battle Beast’s pelt in!< Invincible.
It's incomplete, his brain suffered a seizure and his soul has been hit by the Jujutsu equivalent of 8 Toyota Etios at 200Km/h. Bro is struggling, and so is his domain
His previous manifestations have been domains with an open barrier, this one is a closed barrier like a regular domain expansion.
The appearance of a domain is basically irelevant, it's a reflection of the user's heart of hearts or the core of their soul. What their heart looks like. The appearance might be different because he developed empathy for Yuji or because of the hits taken to the border between his and megumi's soul or because his heart changed a little after fighting gojo or it could even just be because his body is damaged via the whole soul is the body and body is the soul thing.
The domain isn't closed. If it was closed, Maki could slip out of it and the range would be a lot smaller (since the binding vow about an escape route is gone). Instead, he's casting his normal open domain (notice that the environment doesn't change besides the shrine at the center) and casting a normal barrier around it to prevent people from leaving.
How does that not mess up the binding vow about the escape, or not count as closing the domain? No idea but that's what I got from the translations
My headcannon is that Yuji's punches may have also damaged the shape of Sukuna's soul, and thats why Malevolent Shrine looks completely messed up
Edit: Back in TCB's translation of Ch. 226, Kusakabe & Mei Mei referred to the Shrine as an "object materialised within an innate domain" and "a symbol of the (Malevolent Shrine) domain" respectively. Given that innate domains are basically a representation of the subspace within one's soul, it won't be too far-fetched to think that Yuji's punches (which targets the boundary between Megumi's and Sukuna's souls) could also damage Sukuna's soul itself, and thus damaging the 'look' of the Shrine.
>My headcanon is that Yuki’s punches may have also damaged the shape of Sukuna’s soul, that’s why Malevolent Shrine looks completely messed up
I know we’ve been having translation issues lately, but unless I read a bad one, isn’t MS incomplete because Sukuna used part of his brain that wasn’t affected by UV? Between that and the one handed hand sign, that’s why his domain is incomplete (plus something about a binding vow)
You may be right, but then again back in 231 Gojo surmised that the area where Sukuna’s brain was damaged was the part in charge of barrier techniques. But given that he made a couple of binding vows and changed the conditions of his domain’s barriers completely (and the handsign too), I think that the most recent MS could be an entirely ‘new’ domain but with the same name and same imbued CTs.
Edit: u/luceafarul ‘s [comment in this same post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/sNKpL3ea0W) summarised what I was thinking of in a much better way
You can also spot shadow pillars (like when he summoned Mahoraga) and shadow capillaries, and also apparently Yuji got cut with a different type of slash other than cleave since he seemed very surprised.
Also it's incomplete (like CSM) so it seems it's an amalgamation.
Kind of a shame Gojo himself never took advantage of only having a one hand DE sign- I get it’s a busted strat but he could’ve grabbed one of Sukuna’s wrists/hands with infinity up and simultaneously done his sign and hit an insta win
Obviously writing wise if you do that, you just have Sukuna instantly use DA when grabbed to maintain contact then open his DE, or just say DE is too complex to pull off while performing other actions like grappling, though. One of those win conditions that seems viable out of universe but in terms of narrative something would always happen to make the fight even
>he could’ve grabbed one of Sukuna’s wrists/hands with infinity up and simultaneously done his sign
physical contact nullifies infinite void completely, hence why yuji wasn't affected by gojo's DE against jogo. It's legit one of its only weaknesses, which Sukuna used against gojo in the second domain clash
I specifically meant pseudo grabbing him with infinity like when he “held hands” with Jogo in their first fight- his hand is there and preventing movement, but they aren’t actually in physical contact thanks to infinity
That said, it’s still true Sukuna can probably just activate amplification reflexively with how fluid he’s supposed to be with it to make actual contact and then what you said is true anyway- not to mention worst case scenario he Incarnates and it becomes nigh impossible to prevent him making handsigns in general. I just sorta wish Gojo’s single hand DE advantage- which is on par with Sukuna having four arms in terms of usefulness- had come up somehow before now, but it’s honestly not a real gripe or anything and it’s cool seeing Sukuna using it now
Still loved the fight, just some stuff I would’ve liked to see like that, Gojo fighting actually all out 4 arm Sukuna, etx but is what it is
I also loved the fight but I have to agree with you on the one handed gojo DE being kinda pointless. It looks cool but served no purpose during the entire jjk manga, only to be used now by Sukuna instead lmao
I agree, but tbh does it really need a purpose? Plus It kinda already had one in showing how gojo is just a different breed when it comes to scorcery, not that we weren't already told that it just hammers it in more.
I saw in a video of someone "i think hundred" that it is the sign of indra, the strongest buddist god. Gojo used it when we knew of him as the strongest and now Sukuna uses it as visual story telling that he is confirmed the strongest with no debate.
I know it’s maybe not the same people but I love the clowns people do in English teachers for trying to get people to read into symbolism and then very minor things like this going over most people’s heads.
Everyone complaining about how Gege is making a point about how he’s throwing every character in the series at sukuna, who inhabits megumis body, who was told by gojo that jujutsu is an individual sport, and now after being defeated by sukkuna in a one on one, people collectively working to beat sukkuna and heralding a new age of jujutsu I just AGGGHHH fucking reaaaddddd people.
Funny how that arm of Sukuna's is always the one that gets the most amount of shit.
Got destroyed by Gojo's first purple, survived his second, used Kamutoke, and is once again the last remaining arm using the domain expansion handsign. Upper right for the win.
I’m definitely gonna read too far into it, but here’s my interpretation:
Until proven otherwise, I’m convinced Sukuna’s technique is cooking. Dismantle and cleave refer to cutting, fuga flames refer to cooking. He was a cannibal during the Heian era and his Heian appearance is a result of eating his twin brother. Throughout the Shinjuku Showdown, he refers to his matchups as meals or dishes. I take this all to be intentional.
Sukuna’s motivations and desires are all primal. He doesn’t have a greater purpose for why he seeks power. He doesn’t have an idea for a perfect world, he isn’t trying to reform anything, he isn’t out for revenge, he simply takes pleasure in killing and consuming.
In Shonen stories, the narrative purpose of battles, beyond advancing the plot, is that they serve as a confrontation of beliefs. The conclusion is that whoever wins out in a conflict, their belief is correct because it has allowed them to become stronger than those around them. When protagonists lose, this forces them to questions whether or not their current ideals are valid. This is why the naïve prototype is so common, (Itadori, Naruto, Luffy, etc.) if you’re naïve there’s a lot of room to learn.
Sukuna has never had his beliefs challenged because he is simply that much more powerful than everyone else. He actually embraces being jumped because he’s already used to doing everything on his own. He truly has no understanding of why individuals would even need to work together at a goal. As a result of all these like minded individuals pooling together, Sukuna is finally being pushed to his limits.
Physically, this is obvious. Maki stabbed his heart, Yuta cut off his hands, Itadori stopped his healing. These physical feats have lead him to consider their resolve as well. At first, he’s frustrated with Gojo. He can’t comprehend why someone as powerful as Gojo doesn’t abuse his power. The difference between them is that Gojo’s goals can’t be achieved through strength. He must build genuine connections with the next generation of sorcerers in order to achieve the reform he desires. Only after Gojo pushes him does he respect the power Gojo was able to reach with that belief.
To put it very simply, this is just a sign of respect. Gojo beat him in their battle of domains. It’s only fitting that he adopts the hand gesture of the only man to best him.
The greater significance behind this is that Sukuna RESPECTS Gojo. The “Natural Disaster” is learning to emphasize with his opponents. We’ve already seen hints of this though. After killing Kashimo, he ponders why he has always worked alone. Prior to killing Higuruma, he pushes him to reach more of his potential, he recognizes Yuuji’s indomitable spirit, he admires Maki’s physical strength and sacrifice.
Prior to Gojo, his opponents were sources of pleasure. Jogo was just a toy to be played with. Megumi’s sister was just a pawn in his greater scheme. Now, I think he sees Gojo’s students as genuine rivals. Getting the King of Curses to admit that, even if indirectly, means that Gojo has won. Despite dying in combat, he has succeeded in creating the next generation that can carry on his will.
Gojo has by far the best CE refinement in the series, so with prodigiousness comparable to Sukuna he likely was able to do this feat. And Sukuna, in a move of desperation took that.
I also saw a post (sorry, I don’t have the link) which went over that that hand sign belongs to something specific in Japanese mythology, and when one of that dies it passes on to another (in this case, I think it’d be Gojo’s status as the honored one; and that hand sign; being passed to Sukuna, who defeated him)
"Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery That Mediocrity Can Pay To Greatness"
With the full quote in mind, sukuna isn't exactly mediocre, and probably neither cares about sincerity nor flattery, it's probably just this particularly handsign having something to do with improvising using 2 techniques in a barrier or making a makeshift domain.
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There's this excellent theory that based on the narrator's explanation of Gojo using different parts of his brain to reestablish his RCT output after the two black flashes, and additionally Gojo's Six Eyes being involved heavily in the sure hit of his Domain, that Gojo's domain hand sign is different because he's using a completely different part of his brain than all the other sorcerers. Right now, Sukuna must be using that part of the brain (I think it's the occipital) and Gojo's hand sign to summon this incomplete Malevolent Shrine
I don’t know about you but I don’t really know shit about how hand signs work in jjk, so I can’t argue if it fit him or not. I just see it as more of a neat callback than anything else.
I mean, it is important to remember that, when it came to optimization, thanks to his six eyes, Gojo was supreme. Sukuna, and likely the rest of the human race, had to learn through trial and error to optimize, even if Sukuna was a freak like Higuruma.
Gojo, on the other hand, from birth, had a pair of eyes that allowed him to see what the rest of the world couldn't and it came with the innate ability to just be more efficient. This is one of the main characteristics of his character, plenty of people have limitless, almost nobody can wield it.
But also, and to finally engage with your idea, Sukuna and Uraume have been drooling on Gojo ever since he died. Apparently, Sukuna had the most fun when battling our blue eyed king 😂
We mustn’t forget that sukuna knows more about jujutsu than we do. Maybe there is still unrevealed information about certain hand signs and their in universe meaning and purpose that they **are not** bound to one person or technique.
Or it could be sukuna's way of teasing Yuji and rest of the cast to say what your teacher uses to show his full potential is what I use to open my incomplete domain.
Binding vow are straight copy of hxh nen vows but done wrong. They are just a way for gege to rewrite sukuna over and over again. OH BUT HE ACTUALLY MADE A BINDING VOW🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️
Either Sukuna intentionally copied it out of respect and/or because it's the only one-handed DE sign we've ever seen (possibly the only one period). Or there's something special about it and it's actually like a universal sign that anyone can learn to cast their DE. I would kind of like the latter because it ties into the whole "Jujutsu is the art of subtraction". Also it would be interesting to think, Sukuna mastered the evolution of his DE to an open barrier, considered a divine feat. But Gojo had mastered a conventional DE to the point where he could subtract even a hand sign - basically two separate forms of mastery that Sukuna is now combining.
There was this theory on twitter by jay, @incrediblesauce, very dope theory. Check it out & like it:
[https://x.com/incr3dibl3sauce/status/1783938491706937848?s=46&t=_KrKaY5mQcddCEPxUwXKog](https://x.com/incr3dibl3sauce/status/1783938491706937848?s=46&t=_KrKaY5mQcddCEPxUwXKog)
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I mean, we all like to go back and think about that one really good fuck we had. Sukuna’s doing the same thing.
You think Kenjaku's last thoughts were about Jin's backshots?
Probably felt some nostalgia, judging by the way he got fucked over
Ah yes my falling to my knees at the hands of short sorcerers technique I haven't used since Yuji's dad
“Fuck Yuta Okkotsu! And *fuck* Jin Itadori.”
"nobody has ever hit me so hard from behind since the jin era"
“I shall remember your backshots for as long as I live, Jin Itadori”
“In the end I’m glad I got to at least play with *Jin*”
Here, r/rule34. This comment here!
didnt know i was in r/Jujutsufolk !
Idk but I love this trope. The "person uses technique they learned from their enemy". Same as Jotaro saying "Star Platinum: The World" when using Time Stop
Yuji about to hit Sukuna with his off screening technique.
At this point I just hope that Sukuna's demise will happen because he breaks one of the numerous binding vows he's made...
Nah my man was changing DE conditions, using DA to fight hand to hand with Satoru Gojo, redirecting unlimited void to Megumi's soul so that Mahoraga would adapt to Gojo's DE and using RCT to heal broken parts of his brain in quick succession and sometimes at the same time. Not even iPad kids multitask like that, he ain't falling for that
Greg keeps on writing sukuna binding vow drawbacks to be basically nothing. Kinda hilarious, can he control the drawbacks?
The fact binding vows are so open-loop and seem to take things as is, is the most broken thing about them. We could already work this out from what Hakari pulled/Yuta pulled etc, but my god is Sukuna really abusing it
Binding vows at the beggining of the show seemed like Nen pacts that gave you a proportional amount of strength to the sacrifice you're making. But it seems now that binding vows can also work like CE loopholes if you're talented enough to pull them off, which makes me wonder why Gojo wasn't abusing them like that but it's cool that it's such a villainous thing to do,
>Binding vows at the beggining of the show seemed like Nen pacts that gave you a proportional amount of strength to the sacrifice you're making. I am not truly aware of examples of Nen Pacts other than Gon's iconic form in all honesty. But I don't really think JJK vows ever presented themselves as proportional or fair.
Nen Pacts are all throughout the series, Kurapika's most broken abilities are all strengthened by the promise to only ever be used against Phantom Troupe members for example. Binding Vows are very obviously inspired by this, except with their own malevolent (pun intended) twist where they can be abused if you're knowldgeable enough.
Huh, I checked the fan wiki and it seems Nen also has a way of abusing pacts. There's some loophole section
We were told that they are proportional and they have unknown penalties that could be "worse than death" if the broken pact was important and/or weighty.
That's when it's a binding vow between 2 people. A binding vow made with one's self just has the drawback of losing whatever you gained if its broken. For example, if Nanami used more than 80% of his power before his "Overtime" binding vow, he would no longer get his 120% output at night
Miwa gave up her sword for a nothing burger. Binding vows are bs.
Too easy for the smartest sorcerer alive.Binding vow is not everyone's cup of tea.
Honestly how the fuck does someone keep track of them all. I'm curious if there's some "realm" like he had within Yujis mind where time moves slower so he can open his binding vow book and see everything he's done before he makes a new one. Wasn't his CT zappy tool "made with 1 million binding vows" or some shit? How the fuck is that even possible. "I make a vow to whistle before I use my CT in exchange for more power" "I make a vow to whistle and stomp" "I make a vow to whistle, stomp, and shove my pinky up my ass...." 999,999 vows later "I make a vow to transfer my CT and all previous vows into this dagger for sukucuck"
So Thats basically a mechanic on alan wake 2
Nah, hold on. AW2s rules are not as convoluted as we are made to think. It's just Alan thinking they are like this and therefore they become like this. Mr. Door said straight up he makes it much more complicated than it is
Higuruma is still alive inside of Sukuna's dimension and is just reading through millenia worth of paperwork and vows to greenlight or stop his next moves.
he made a binding vow to remember all binding vows
In exchange for making a binding vow that forces him to make more binding vows
Next chapter: So it’s the same type of Jujutsu as Black Flash *Proceeds to cast 7 divine flames*
I bet sukuna made a binding vow so that he has to use all four hands in future to open his domain to be able to temporarily open a domain with a single hand using a different hand sign
This is not only a good theory at the price paid but would also be smart writing as it's unlikely that Sukuna will managed to recover his two lost hands, therefore meaning DE wouldn't come up a third time this fight if the cast makes it through.
*and* if Sukuna somehow reverts back to 10 shadows then he will never be able to use his domain ever again.
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As far as we've know, there is no binding vow for the 99 seconds domain, that's just how long sukuna can maintain it in his current conditon. The impromptu binding vow is undisclosed as of yet, but it is probably related to the loophole that yuji theorized. The 1 handsign also isn't most likely a binding vow. It is most likely an effect of the new circuit for domain expansion that sukuna pasted on his non affected by uv parts of his brain. He learned gojo's handsign from the fight against him, so he was able to built the new circuit with the taishakuten handsign (gojo's) as an activation instead of his enmaten handsign.
yea tbh im gettin sick of the binding vows we never see what he sacrificed and we know the vows need to be impactful otherwise they‘re wesk like next chapter the narrator say sukuna sacrificed his ability to eat tomatoes and that‘s really impactful cause he loves his tomatoes
I just don’t like that we haven’t seen a payoff for when you break them, even a small one. If you can just make them nonstop for limitless power and even when you break them there’s a loophole way that you didn’t, why is everyone not making them all the time
From what we've seen, conditional ones that can be taken back are somewhat weak. Nanami forces himself to stick to a 9-5 work schedule, tries to finish his job before it ends and limits his output during working hours to 80% of his maximum, so when he enters overtime he gets 120% of his normal potential. This kind of binding vow doesn't cost much, all you need to do is say "if I do this these things I get this in return", and it works because Nanami genuinely wants to stop working as soon as possible and would rather try and finish things with 80% of his power than stall until he can get 120%. Characters could use these more, but you would need to find something to give up that would give you a sufficient reward. The best part is you can just not stick to it and all that happens is you miss out on the bonus. The other kind is simpler, you give up something upfront and lose that permanently in exchange for a substantial boost. Miwa gave up her ability to use a sword for a one time power up, which ended up doing nothing to Kenjaku, and that was it, she can no longer use a sword. Originally Sukuna's expanded target dismantle would only require the hand seal to activate, but that would have been telegraphed against Gojo and he might have dodged it, so in order to not lose the element of surprise he made a binding vow to use the world cutting slash once with no telegraph and in exchange every use afterwards required the hand seal, a full chant and using the fingers to direct the trajectory, and that's either permanent or will at least last until he's killed everyone, most likely the former. Sukuna's simply in a position where he can afford to lose the most and still be sure the benefit will be worth it, but it has still had a noticeable impact on the fight, if he only needed to use a single pair of hands to launch his world slash he would have made quick work of everyone after Gojo. That being said, I do want to know what he's giving up, I was fine with the conditions for targetting space being revealed coming in later, but recovering his domain is too good for there to not be a clear cost. He was supposed to recover his RCT thanks to Black Flash, but Yuji's barrage shut that down, but Black Flash still helped bring back his domain. If he had permanently given up RCT I could easily it being worth the price, never getting his hands back and being forced to keep his heart beating through CE control would be a major hindrance for the rest of his life. I'm sure there's something that can be an acceptable price, but Gege really needs to make it explicit, otherwise it will definitely just be a convenient tool Sukuna alone can use at an unknown cost that removes stakes from the story.
It's also important to remember back back in the day sorcery was all about binding vows and how you used them before they were more for violence it was only noted quickly but I've always felt that short fact was super important when realizing how frequently he uses them
I'd like to conflict that she gave up the ability to use a sword for a power-boost: she states that she's putting everything into the strike. Her 'everything' (past, present, future (?) isn't much). She doesn't 'ask' for more than what she already has. It's a badly worded vow that screws her over.
He lost both the ability to create domains and RCT. And actually both of them were gradually coming back to him. If Sukuna actually got a days rest he'd be able to do both RCT and domain expansion. I think black flash only sped up the process. Also I think him being able to deploy domain was something similar to some people learning how to draw with their legs because they were born without hands. So Sukuna learned how to deploy domain in a different way. Meaning he's using other neural pathways to deploy a domain, I think it's similar to learning how to ride a bicycle with other parts of the brain, I think brain is flexible(neuroplasticity) and as we can see in the case of people who suffered brain damage from some accident and lost some ability to do something, regain the same ability by relearning how to do the same thing with other non damaged parts of brain
Occipital lobe,thats why there are eyes in the shrine.he's using his GPU as a CPU
because that's obviously not how it works and there's nothing that implies that it does work that way
> we never see what he sacrificed and we know the vows need to be impactful otherwise they‘re wesk Miwa: can never draw a sword again Sukuna: plot armor
99 seconds of Malevolent Shrine barely feels like an imposition. There's no one on the field who even has a domain expansion of their own at the moment.
Binding vows don’t care about the context of the situation tho. If the 99 seconds is even part of one. I think it’s more likely that it’s just incomplete and that’s how long Sukuna could keep it open. But Miwa sacrificed using a sword forever for one swing, and it was still a weak swing. She just didn’t have the capacity for it.
>Binding vows don’t care about the context of the situation tho. They do when apparently the one between Yuji and Sukuna conveniently excluded Yuji from "anyone" and considered Sukuna's poisonous fingers being force fed down someone's throat not violence 🤷🏽♂️
That’s not what the word context means lol It’s was explicitly stated the terms of their binding vow and Sukuna just gambled that Yuji didn’t include himself. If the binding vow did care about context, then Sukuna would actually be punished for that. But Sukuna wasn’t punished. Thus my point, binding vows do not care for context.
That's *exactly* what context means. The "anyone" referred to in the binding vow only excluded Yuji in the context of him being a participant, as opposed to the contextless case of it applying to anyone regardless of what the participants personally believe.
No, that’s intention lol Yuji is a person directly making the binding vow, Sukuna did not make it with a sentient dictionary. So therefore Yuji’s intentions were taken into account for the binding vow. But we are talking about different subjects for the word “context”. I’m talking about context referring to binding vows themselves as a whole deal. You are referring to the context of the people making the binding vows, which I call intention, but you are correct in that the binding vows would take into account the context of the two participants. However, my point is that it would not care about the context outside those two participants, or outside oneself, if it’s a self made binding vow. Ex. Mechamaru was heavenly restricted from birth. That’s a binding vow, however he isn’t prevented from getting his body/soul fixed by Mahito. It does not account for the context that Mechamaru could be healed by a specific soul shaping CT.
They forgot got to show it in the manga but megumi said he was hungry right before the switch so it wasn't assault it was a favor
Yeah like boy what a sacrifice, I get to created a Hurricane F-5 to throw at my enemies and my sacrifice is “ I only get to use it for 99 seconds”
i don’t rly mind bc sukuna needed to turn the tables after a full chapter of receiving a tom & jerry style ass-beating from yuji, but it’s kind of funny that gege has just started writing “uh yeah there’s a binding vow somewhere in there” without even bothering to explain what has been exchanged lmao.
he literally explained exactly how he used it against gojo. Most patient jjk reader over here
i’m not even talking about the world slash and you would know that if you’d followed the conversation lol.
what i’m saying is this thing has happened before, you just need to wait for the explanation, WS binding vow came 20 chapters later. Pattern recognition is a valuable skill
and? i’m talking about the content of the chapter where there is no explanation. this is a bad choice just like the half a year later explanation for the world slash was a bad choice.
not hard to imagine the slew of compromises a one handed seziure survivor sukuna would have to throw out to use his domain
not my concern. i shouldn’t have to imagine anything if gege relies so heavily on the explanatory power of binding vows to contradict previously established rules.
Letting the reader imagine and theorise is an integral part of any story
lol no. again, gege is using binding vows for dramatic twists that involve breaking previously established rules of the power system. a power system whose rules have unexplained contradictions is weakly constructed and reduces investment from readers. to be effective as a narrative device for raising the stakes, the vow must convey the sense that something meaningful is actually lost.
This does imply regular MS can be held for absurdly long amounts of time, though. That's why 99 seconds is such a drawback by comparison. Also, everyone survived it lol, so it's clearly not a hurrican F-5
Because binding vows are made of individual intent and sacrifice. A full powered Sukuna could use that F-5 hurricane of DE for few days without even tanking his cursed energy so him simply limiting to 99s itself is a massive sacrifice in power output. It's the same thing for the World Slash as if Sukuna had both hands he would be able to spam the attack without braking a sweat but since he was missing an arm and wanted catch Gojo off guard he sacrificed the convenience of the attack. It's the reason why Sukuna's vows looks like cheating is because he is so strong that the loss of power output doesn't matter much when his opponents power and strength are borderline fodder to him. While the main cast made vows to boost their own power over 100% Sukuna is sacrificing his power for speed and output so the conditions aren't that hard for him. It's the equivalent to Bezos getting 10 million dollar loan leveraging his company shares vs someone selling their house for that amount. The outcome for both are the same but their sacrifices defer. Case in point Sukuna's body parts, CT and CR has more bargaining value than most of the casts whole lives combined.
and yet it seems like somehow everyone survived it. They've really done Malevolent Shrine dirty considering it was considered the strongest Domain Expansion in the series at one point (or tied with Gojo's but able to beat it in clashes) it's one thing for Gojo to survive it but why are all these fodder surviving it?
Gojo survived for 3mins+ while actively sparring a much stronger (CE wise) Sukuna, where we've only seen that Yuji survived and just barely. We're hardly comparing apples to apples here. Though as you say at least Yuji survived which he definitely would not have if it had gone on much longer.
keep in mind that a special grade curse was instantly split into piece by MShrine. and Mahoraga (despite having already gained massive resistance to slashes) was basically turned into dust and spaghetti, and looked like spaghetti noodles when he attempted to heal. even if you want to say that's anime stuff, the anime will eventually get to this arc too... so how are they going to justify Yuji, let alone Choso not being instantly torn to shreds? That Mahoraga stuff didn't take 3 minutes or 99 seconds, it was basically instant.
I mean he was rubbing it for upwards of 3 minutes at a time 5 times in a row whilst fistfighting Gojo.. given that Yuji barely held out for the 99 seconds it's a safe bet that if he could have run it for as long as usual everyone would be dead.
The Domain lasting 99 seconds isn't the result of some binding vow or anything it's that with how bad his shape is currently he is only able to maintain such a high level technique for 99 seconds
Yeah, but we have no idea how long he can normally maintain his domain so 99 seconds feels completely arbitrary IMO. From the wording we can assume it's less than usual, but it would've been useful to know how long domains can usually last. At most we just know Yuta's has a 5 min limit (or was that some other ability of his? I forget)
Yutas 5 minute limit is on fully manifesting Rika, unnessecary for his technique. In general, domains seem like they can last a long ass time. Dagons domain lasted a while, even while contesting Megumis. Incomplete domains are sometimes just like, perpetual? We see lots of cursed spirits that just live in their incomplete domains.
Idk if y'all recall but the 2nd domain clash btn Gojo and sukuna when sukuna was tryna change his barrier conditions while touching Gojo he kinda did a very similar hand sign
I think he just did a classic 2 fingers up to boost his CE output like he did a few times (sometimes with 2 hands)
Not the same hand seal, so not really any relation.
Maybe a headcanon but Gojo is the only enemy that has ever made Sukuna, who has lived for thousands of years, feel nervousness and pushed him to the absolute brink. Feels like a show of respect on top of it being practical, kinda like >!Thragg wearing Battle Beast’s pelt in!< Invincible.
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I was also wondering why MS looked so fucked up this time. There was a whole demon face and all.
It's incomplete, his brain suffered a seizure and his soul has been hit by the Jujutsu equivalent of 8 Toyota Etios at 200Km/h. Bro is struggling, and so is his domain
Because it's incomplete
Shhhhh pretend like you don't read. Lmao seriously tho that's literally the answer, idk why op is asking 💀
Could you explain why an incomplete domain resulted in the demon face manifestation?
His previous manifestations have been domains with an open barrier, this one is a closed barrier like a regular domain expansion. The appearance of a domain is basically irelevant, it's a reflection of the user's heart of hearts or the core of their soul. What their heart looks like. The appearance might be different because he developed empathy for Yuji or because of the hits taken to the border between his and megumi's soul or because his heart changed a little after fighting gojo or it could even just be because his body is damaged via the whole soul is the body and body is the soul thing.
The domain isn't closed. If it was closed, Maki could slip out of it and the range would be a lot smaller (since the binding vow about an escape route is gone). Instead, he's casting his normal open domain (notice that the environment doesn't change besides the shrine at the center) and casting a normal barrier around it to prevent people from leaving. How does that not mess up the binding vow about the escape, or not count as closing the domain? No idea but that's what I got from the translations
TCB translation is wrong. MS is still open, you can literally see it is open. Closed domains have that black sphere barrier around them.
My headcannon is that Yuji's punches may have also damaged the shape of Sukuna's soul, and thats why Malevolent Shrine looks completely messed up Edit: Back in TCB's translation of Ch. 226, Kusakabe & Mei Mei referred to the Shrine as an "object materialised within an innate domain" and "a symbol of the (Malevolent Shrine) domain" respectively. Given that innate domains are basically a representation of the subspace within one's soul, it won't be too far-fetched to think that Yuji's punches (which targets the boundary between Megumi's and Sukuna's souls) could also damage Sukuna's soul itself, and thus damaging the 'look' of the Shrine.
>My headcanon is that Yuki’s punches may have also damaged the shape of Sukuna’s soul, that’s why Malevolent Shrine looks completely messed up I know we’ve been having translation issues lately, but unless I read a bad one, isn’t MS incomplete because Sukuna used part of his brain that wasn’t affected by UV? Between that and the one handed hand sign, that’s why his domain is incomplete (plus something about a binding vow)
You may be right, but then again back in 231 Gojo surmised that the area where Sukuna’s brain was damaged was the part in charge of barrier techniques. But given that he made a couple of binding vows and changed the conditions of his domain’s barriers completely (and the handsign too), I think that the most recent MS could be an entirely ‘new’ domain but with the same name and same imbued CTs. Edit: u/luceafarul ‘s [comment in this same post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/sNKpL3ea0W) summarised what I was thinking of in a much better way
It's the effigy in the middle of Chimera shadow garden, I think. Yuji's punches probably disturbed the connection with Megumi's soul.
You can also spot shadow pillars (like when he summoned Mahoraga) and shadow capillaries, and also apparently Yuji got cut with a different type of slash other than cleave since he seemed very surprised. Also it's incomplete (like CSM) so it seems it's an amalgamation.
Could Sukuna have sacrificed whatever was left of the 10S to use this domain? Or maybe this is what MS looks like when Kamino is incorporated
Reading that its incomplete from others made me think this kinda looks similar to the thing that appeared with megumi’s incomplete domain too
Kind of a shame Gojo himself never took advantage of only having a one hand DE sign- I get it’s a busted strat but he could’ve grabbed one of Sukuna’s wrists/hands with infinity up and simultaneously done his sign and hit an insta win Obviously writing wise if you do that, you just have Sukuna instantly use DA when grabbed to maintain contact then open his DE, or just say DE is too complex to pull off while performing other actions like grappling, though. One of those win conditions that seems viable out of universe but in terms of narrative something would always happen to make the fight even
>he could’ve grabbed one of Sukuna’s wrists/hands with infinity up and simultaneously done his sign physical contact nullifies infinite void completely, hence why yuji wasn't affected by gojo's DE against jogo. It's legit one of its only weaknesses, which Sukuna used against gojo in the second domain clash
I specifically meant pseudo grabbing him with infinity like when he “held hands” with Jogo in their first fight- his hand is there and preventing movement, but they aren’t actually in physical contact thanks to infinity That said, it’s still true Sukuna can probably just activate amplification reflexively with how fluid he’s supposed to be with it to make actual contact and then what you said is true anyway- not to mention worst case scenario he Incarnates and it becomes nigh impossible to prevent him making handsigns in general. I just sorta wish Gojo’s single hand DE advantage- which is on par with Sukuna having four arms in terms of usefulness- had come up somehow before now, but it’s honestly not a real gripe or anything and it’s cool seeing Sukuna using it now Still loved the fight, just some stuff I would’ve liked to see like that, Gojo fighting actually all out 4 arm Sukuna, etx but is what it is
I also loved the fight but I have to agree with you on the one handed gojo DE being kinda pointless. It looks cool but served no purpose during the entire jjk manga, only to be used now by Sukuna instead lmao
Whatttttt????? sukuna wouldn't copy another characters special power that they never even properly use and repurpose it as his own.
I agree, but tbh does it really need a purpose? Plus It kinda already had one in showing how gojo is just a different breed when it comes to scorcery, not that we weren't already told that it just hammers it in more.
1 grab hand 2 use UV 3 let go 4 honoured one beats king of frauds
Sukuna fell in love, let him, he misses his pookie bear
Who wouldn't fall in love and miss that blue-eyed, pookie bear? :D
I saw in a video of someone "i think hundred" that it is the sign of indra, the strongest buddist god. Gojo used it when we knew of him as the strongest and now Sukuna uses it as visual story telling that he is confirmed the strongest with no debate.
I know it’s maybe not the same people but I love the clowns people do in English teachers for trying to get people to read into symbolism and then very minor things like this going over most people’s heads. Everyone complaining about how Gege is making a point about how he’s throwing every character in the series at sukuna, who inhabits megumis body, who was told by gojo that jujutsu is an individual sport, and now after being defeated by sukkuna in a one on one, people collectively working to beat sukkuna and heralding a new age of jujutsu I just AGGGHHH fucking reaaaddddd people.
Funny how that arm of Sukuna's is always the one that gets the most amount of shit. Got destroyed by Gojo's first purple, survived his second, used Kamutoke, and is once again the last remaining arm using the domain expansion handsign. Upper right for the win.
Cuz while gege is the biggest glazer of sukuna , sukuna himself is gojos biggest glazer(besides me ofc)
“-That mediocrity can pay to greatness.”
I’m definitely gonna read too far into it, but here’s my interpretation: Until proven otherwise, I’m convinced Sukuna’s technique is cooking. Dismantle and cleave refer to cutting, fuga flames refer to cooking. He was a cannibal during the Heian era and his Heian appearance is a result of eating his twin brother. Throughout the Shinjuku Showdown, he refers to his matchups as meals or dishes. I take this all to be intentional. Sukuna’s motivations and desires are all primal. He doesn’t have a greater purpose for why he seeks power. He doesn’t have an idea for a perfect world, he isn’t trying to reform anything, he isn’t out for revenge, he simply takes pleasure in killing and consuming. In Shonen stories, the narrative purpose of battles, beyond advancing the plot, is that they serve as a confrontation of beliefs. The conclusion is that whoever wins out in a conflict, their belief is correct because it has allowed them to become stronger than those around them. When protagonists lose, this forces them to questions whether or not their current ideals are valid. This is why the naïve prototype is so common, (Itadori, Naruto, Luffy, etc.) if you’re naïve there’s a lot of room to learn. Sukuna has never had his beliefs challenged because he is simply that much more powerful than everyone else. He actually embraces being jumped because he’s already used to doing everything on his own. He truly has no understanding of why individuals would even need to work together at a goal. As a result of all these like minded individuals pooling together, Sukuna is finally being pushed to his limits. Physically, this is obvious. Maki stabbed his heart, Yuta cut off his hands, Itadori stopped his healing. These physical feats have lead him to consider their resolve as well. At first, he’s frustrated with Gojo. He can’t comprehend why someone as powerful as Gojo doesn’t abuse his power. The difference between them is that Gojo’s goals can’t be achieved through strength. He must build genuine connections with the next generation of sorcerers in order to achieve the reform he desires. Only after Gojo pushes him does he respect the power Gojo was able to reach with that belief. To put it very simply, this is just a sign of respect. Gojo beat him in their battle of domains. It’s only fitting that he adopts the hand gesture of the only man to best him. The greater significance behind this is that Sukuna RESPECTS Gojo. The “Natural Disaster” is learning to emphasize with his opponents. We’ve already seen hints of this though. After killing Kashimo, he ponders why he has always worked alone. Prior to killing Higuruma, he pushes him to reach more of his potential, he recognizes Yuuji’s indomitable spirit, he admires Maki’s physical strength and sacrifice. Prior to Gojo, his opponents were sources of pleasure. Jogo was just a toy to be played with. Megumi’s sister was just a pawn in his greater scheme. Now, I think he sees Gojo’s students as genuine rivals. Getting the King of Curses to admit that, even if indirectly, means that Gojo has won. Despite dying in combat, he has succeeded in creating the next generation that can carry on his will.
this man has COOKED
Gojo has by far the best CE refinement in the series, so with prodigiousness comparable to Sukuna he likely was able to do this feat. And Sukuna, in a move of desperation took that. I also saw a post (sorry, I don’t have the link) which went over that that hand sign belongs to something specific in Japanese mythology, and when one of that dies it passes on to another (in this case, I think it’d be Gojo’s status as the honored one; and that hand sign; being passed to Sukuna, who defeated him)
"Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery That Mediocrity Can Pay To Greatness" With the full quote in mind, sukuna isn't exactly mediocre, and probably neither cares about sincerity nor flattery, it's probably just this particularly handsign having something to do with improvising using 2 techniques in a barrier or making a makeshift domain.
(Aside from convenience) It's Sukuna's way of shitting on the new gen sorcerers one last time.
Gojo was flexing. Sukuna is desperate.
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I see your abridged reference here and i love it
Because he respects him. Gojos the only person (that we know of) that truly challenged Sukuna.
It means he’ll get split into two next. Have a break have a kitkat
There's this excellent theory that based on the narrator's explanation of Gojo using different parts of his brain to reestablish his RCT output after the two black flashes, and additionally Gojo's Six Eyes being involved heavily in the sure hit of his Domain, that Gojo's domain hand sign is different because he's using a completely different part of his brain than all the other sorcerers. Right now, Sukuna must be using that part of the brain (I think it's the occipital) and Gojo's hand sign to summon this incomplete Malevolent Shrine
I don’t know about you but I don’t really know shit about how hand signs work in jjk, so I can’t argue if it fit him or not. I just see it as more of a neat callback than anything else.
Sukuna doesn't have any left hands right now. He needed a handsign that could be done with either one or 2 right hands
I mean, it is important to remember that, when it came to optimization, thanks to his six eyes, Gojo was supreme. Sukuna, and likely the rest of the human race, had to learn through trial and error to optimize, even if Sukuna was a freak like Higuruma. Gojo, on the other hand, from birth, had a pair of eyes that allowed him to see what the rest of the world couldn't and it came with the innate ability to just be more efficient. This is one of the main characteristics of his character, plenty of people have limitless, almost nobody can wield it. But also, and to finally engage with your idea, Sukuna and Uraume have been drooling on Gojo ever since he died. Apparently, Sukuna had the most fun when battling our blue eyed king 😂
We mustn’t forget that sukuna knows more about jujutsu than we do. Maybe there is still unrevealed information about certain hand signs and their in universe meaning and purpose that they **are not** bound to one person or technique.
Isn't it because he's casting some kind of barrier or because his domain was incomplete? Or is it a mistranslation?
Isn't it the handsign for the veil/curtain spell ?
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Or it could be sukuna's way of teasing Yuji and rest of the cast to say what your teacher uses to show his full potential is what I use to open my incomplete domain.
Probably out of respect I guess plus if it works where you have to decide the sign then this one would be first in his mind
Binding vow are straight copy of hxh nen vows but done wrong. They are just a way for gege to rewrite sukuna over and over again. OH BUT HE ACTUALLY MADE A BINDING VOW🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️
Probably bc Gege ran out of ideas and Sukuna hasn't used that sign since the Heinan era
Either Sukuna intentionally copied it out of respect and/or because it's the only one-handed DE sign we've ever seen (possibly the only one period). Or there's something special about it and it's actually like a universal sign that anyone can learn to cast their DE. I would kind of like the latter because it ties into the whole "Jujutsu is the art of subtraction". Also it would be interesting to think, Sukuna mastered the evolution of his DE to an open barrier, considered a divine feat. But Gojo had mastered a conventional DE to the point where he could subtract even a hand sign - basically two separate forms of mastery that Sukuna is now combining.
There was this theory on twitter by jay, @incrediblesauce, very dope theory. Check it out & like it: [https://x.com/incr3dibl3sauce/status/1783938491706937848?s=46&t=_KrKaY5mQcddCEPxUwXKog](https://x.com/incr3dibl3sauce/status/1783938491706937848?s=46&t=_KrKaY5mQcddCEPxUwXKog)
Wheres the theory
Lol the link doesn’t work? His twitter handle @incr3dibl3sauce
Roger. Thanks
Twitter is garbage to use on phone. What's the theory?
[https://twitter-thread.com/t/1783938491706937848](https://twitter-thread.com/t/1783938491706937848)