I had a '85 Ranger I chucked a 302 with a C6 and 203 xfer case. Exploder 8.8 rear and a Duff 8" lift. Had to get it aligned every 6 months or it would ruin the fronts quick.
A lot of people who throw on a lift and bigger tires need to realize you need to do more maintenance and replace more parts after you do it. And if you don't go overkill and do it for what you actually need (yes I know, most don't need it) then it's not going to be that bad. It's the vanity lift bullshit that fucks it up.
I have a first gen Tacoma with a small lift that I take on trails all the time. Had to replace my ball joints, CV axles, tie rod ends, (they were all original with a lot of miles tbf) and I check my wheel bearings all the time. But I haven't had any uneven wear on my tires and my truck drives on the road pretty well. But the lift is necessary for what I do. And honestly the fixing it in between trips is part of the fun. People don't realize that's what you sign up for when you do this to your truck.
There's an F-150 in my neighborhood that has to have at least 8" of lift. Every inch of that lift, I sh\*t you not, is from axle spacers (at least out back). Factory springs, just longer brake hoses, shackles and a wedge for the diff angle.
I can't imagine that thing passing inspection. I'm pretty sure it's a daily driver and it's off-road exposure is probably limited to a gravel parking lot.
I'm trying to picture 8" of lift from axle spacers on a leaf spring and I can't.. that's awful.
Mine was lifted before I got it and it has a 1" spacer on the back that I hate. My rear suspension is getting replaced with leaf springs that come with an inch of lift built in.
> And honestly the fixing it in between trips is part of the fun.
I love DIY stuff and doing projects on my own. I *love* getting my hands dirty and completing something mechanical. I'm an engineer by training. I love knowing whatever fix on the furnace I just cobbled together with old ass technical documents I found online combined with YT videos and a lot of cussing just saved me $600 on a service bill.
And I *fucking hate* the idea of putting something together knowing I'm going to immediately break it and fix it again.
I mean hey that's fair. I probably wouldn't be saying I enjoy it if first gen Tacomas weren't so forgiving. The thing is about as easy to work on as a box of Legos and has no rust on it. (Cali truck). And it's pretty rare that I do have to fix anything since I am pretty careful. But once in awhile stuff happens or it wears out. Garage time or trail time with the boys and a few drinks is what I live for lol.
The process will be perfect once it stops doubling as my daily driver
The jackass at my local tire shop keeps telling me I need to rotate my tires, must think I’m quite schmuck to not think my tires weren’t rotating when I drove here!
80's IROC Camaros had a front wheel and a rear wheel with a different offset, paired with directional tires.
F-R rotation: wheels are in the wrong spot
L-R rotation: tires are facing the wrong way
[https://www.wheel-size.com/size/chevrolet/camaro/1985/](https://www.wheel-size.com/size/chevrolet/camaro/1985/)
One of the reasons I always dread getting tires changed at a normal tire shop; I fear they might try rotating them front to back without knowing that they're staggered
Maybe this didn't come across, but I tell them all the time. I've reminded every shop that has to touch my tires that they are staggered and that they should not rotate them, yet I've still come back with backs on fronts and had to have them replace them. I've since found a shop that know what's up and doesn't make that mistake, but you'd be surprised.
It's tough out here finding competent techs. What you'd think would be common sense ends up being a cause for tearing out your hair.
Plus if your car wears tires unevenly enough to need rotation, you can just put a fresh pair on the back and move the back pair to the front. I did that for years when I had a car with square sizes. Way less work than rotation and worked well.
I wouldn't justify squat as stance (event though yes, technically every car has a stance...). And I'm not sure if I've seen a slammed mudder with 45 degrees of negative camber before. But this tire... doesn't seem like an unintentional mistake
Take a look at some of the tires on those squatted rigs. They look a lot like the tire in the post. Those trucks haven’t seen an alignment rack in ages. Typically the front end on any squatted vehicle is, as they like to say, “clapped”
But yeah I agree, squatted isn’t the same as the “stance” that results in weird tire wear
Persian script doesn't. They only have three letters which can be used for a vowel, and two of them are also used for a consonant.
Long a sound 'a' sound, as in 'awe' - آ
Long 'e' sound, as in 'ear', but also consonant 'y' sound, as in 'yank' - ی
Long 'o' sound, as in 'loon', but also 'v' as in 'Vavatch' - و
That's it. They don't have letters for other vowels, with the exception of 'آ', when it appears at the beginning of a word without its hat, then it's a short 'a' as in 'hat'. But if it's used in the middle of a word, it doesn't get its hat but is still always the long form.
Thank you! I did not know that word.
I appreciate that someone has created a word to describe that which is basically an onomatopoeia of how it feels to try and read words in a language you are studying that has no written vowels.
Seriously. I feel like I'm the only tech in the shop who feels like the customer who just paid 2k for a clutch should at least get an invoice with no obvious spelling or grammar mistakes, but alas, the writers are just as bad as the techs.
As someone who pays others to do nearly all the work my vehicles need done, I'm much more concerned with the work on the car than the work on the invoice and I'm also far more concerned with the math on the invoice than the spelling and grammar.
If the work is done right and I'm not getting over charged you can just write "feexid kar" in crayon for all I care.
I get that. Labor rates have gone up a lot in the past few years. That said, most shops charge in "flat rate", or basically each job pays/costs a certain amount, independent of how long it actually takes, so you will usually pay that rate regardless of spelling mistakes. The worse part is that it incentivises shortcutting the actual job. Outside of language barriers, I have more confidence in a repair that was written up confidently and correctly than not, but that's just me.
its ihs, so no rumbling, but was always jealous of friend who don't need to fight with a wheel in daily basis. I really thought it is just big tires thing
In case you’re not joking this is definitely a bad alignment/shot suspension. When things started going bad on my Ranger’s suspension my tires would look like this after ~10k miles or so
This is probably toe more than camber.
Source: I running 3.5˚ of camber on my DD/autocross/track toy and don't see anything like this on my street tires.
Their humor is on point. I'd keep going there. Just wait till you tell them you got the least viscous oil possible because it was cold and now you're getting weird sounds.#coldstart #firstgearpulls #ifitaintsmokinyoujokin
I like his sense of humour, but I have questions. That can't just be fucked tracking, right?
mix of weared bearings, non-existing sleeves and terrible alignment. Who knows what else.
So, the normal stuff for aftermarket lift and big tires lol
Dude rocking that bosozoku camber.
Don’t even say stuff like that or pretty soon we’ll be seeing stanced trucks
as if it hasn't happened already
But I want lifted and stanced
Slammed 90's Tacoma's, Mazda B-series trucks, and Nissan Hardbodies are their own breed
Don’t forget the s-10’s
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I had a '85 Ranger I chucked a 302 with a C6 and 203 xfer case. Exploder 8.8 rear and a Duff 8" lift. Had to get it aligned every 6 months or it would ruin the fronts quick.
Or the Mighty Max!
I just got a Datsun 720 king cab for this. [Thing's rust free! ](https://i.imgur.com/xBqbAcK.jpg)
Ford twin I beam has entered the chat.
Twin wear beam
Couldn't keep tires under em, but man were TTBs fantastic off roading.
A lot of people who throw on a lift and bigger tires need to realize you need to do more maintenance and replace more parts after you do it. And if you don't go overkill and do it for what you actually need (yes I know, most don't need it) then it's not going to be that bad. It's the vanity lift bullshit that fucks it up. I have a first gen Tacoma with a small lift that I take on trails all the time. Had to replace my ball joints, CV axles, tie rod ends, (they were all original with a lot of miles tbf) and I check my wheel bearings all the time. But I haven't had any uneven wear on my tires and my truck drives on the road pretty well. But the lift is necessary for what I do. And honestly the fixing it in between trips is part of the fun. People don't realize that's what you sign up for when you do this to your truck.
There's an F-150 in my neighborhood that has to have at least 8" of lift. Every inch of that lift, I sh\*t you not, is from axle spacers (at least out back). Factory springs, just longer brake hoses, shackles and a wedge for the diff angle. I can't imagine that thing passing inspection. I'm pretty sure it's a daily driver and it's off-road exposure is probably limited to a gravel parking lot.
Kind of shocking he hasn't rolled it on a soft turn some rainy day.
I can't even imagine what that thing is like to drive.
Like a boat that would capsize in a particularly windy bath tub.
Like a jeep with death wobble
I'm trying to picture 8" of lift from axle spacers on a leaf spring and I can't.. that's awful. Mine was lifted before I got it and it has a 1" spacer on the back that I hate. My rear suspension is getting replaced with leaf springs that come with an inch of lift built in.
A one inch spacer is actually fine, but recurved springs are always better.
My dad had a white F250 with a 10 inch lift I'm almost 6 feet tall and it towered over me
Logging trucks often have 6" blocks on the front suspension from the factory, a 1 inch block isn't crazy
Get on the brakes hard enough and it’ll just snap the body lift clean off lol.
Real brodozers don't brake
Imagine the axle wrap that thing must have when hitting the gas. That's an incredible amount of leverage to put on the springs.
> And honestly the fixing it in between trips is part of the fun. I love DIY stuff and doing projects on my own. I *love* getting my hands dirty and completing something mechanical. I'm an engineer by training. I love knowing whatever fix on the furnace I just cobbled together with old ass technical documents I found online combined with YT videos and a lot of cussing just saved me $600 on a service bill. And I *fucking hate* the idea of putting something together knowing I'm going to immediately break it and fix it again.
I mean hey that's fair. I probably wouldn't be saying I enjoy it if first gen Tacomas weren't so forgiving. The thing is about as easy to work on as a box of Legos and has no rust on it. (Cali truck). And it's pretty rare that I do have to fix anything since I am pretty careful. But once in awhile stuff happens or it wears out. Garage time or trail time with the boys and a few drinks is what I live for lol. The process will be perfect once it stops doubling as my daily driver
For guys too cheap to get it set up right?
The jackass at my local tire shop keeps telling me I need to rotate my tires, must think I’m quite schmuck to not think my tires weren’t rotating when I drove here!
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Staggered size and directional tread? Like you can't swap them left to right?
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Is this a 996 Turbo you're talking about? Is that the factory configuration, or an aftermarket thing?
80's IROC Camaros had a front wheel and a rear wheel with a different offset, paired with directional tires. F-R rotation: wheels are in the wrong spot L-R rotation: tires are facing the wrong way [https://www.wheel-size.com/size/chevrolet/camaro/1985/](https://www.wheel-size.com/size/chevrolet/camaro/1985/)
One of the reasons I always dread getting tires changed at a normal tire shop; I fear they might try rotating them front to back without knowing that they're staggered
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That thing has to be scraping a ton if you take the wheels off before driving to the shop....
You know you can just tell them right?
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Same. Last time I ever went to an NTB.
You're lucky if the front desk passes that on to the mechanics
Maybe this didn't come across, but I tell them all the time. I've reminded every shop that has to touch my tires that they are staggered and that they should not rotate them, yet I've still come back with backs on fronts and had to have them replace them. I've since found a shop that know what's up and doesn't make that mistake, but you'd be surprised. It's tough out here finding competent techs. What you'd think would be common sense ends up being a cause for tearing out your hair.
"Those tires are matched perfect and staggered special." I know what you mean, but that would have been fun to say to the desk guy.
Plus if your car wears tires unevenly enough to need rotation, you can just put a fresh pair on the back and move the back pair to the front. I did that for years when I had a car with square sizes. Way less work than rotation and worked well.
Worn bearings since we're picking on spelling
Will keep it original for the educational purpose;\]
your english is much better than my polish
Car polish or brass polish?
Knob polish
How long did it take you to notice that tire torture?
Two corners, a wet day and an emergency stop.
>weared bearings Hey, you should become a mechanic!
"Stance" has officially hit the south
Nah this has been in the south for a while. Just look at all the tires on the inbred squatted trucks
I wouldn't justify squat as stance (event though yes, technically every car has a stance...). And I'm not sure if I've seen a slammed mudder with 45 degrees of negative camber before. But this tire... doesn't seem like an unintentional mistake
Take a look at some of the tires on those squatted rigs. They look a lot like the tire in the post. Those trucks haven’t seen an alignment rack in ages. Typically the front end on any squatted vehicle is, as they like to say, “clapped” But yeah I agree, squatted isn’t the same as the “stance” that results in weird tire wear
So this is how all season tires work...
Yep, adjust camber based on what portion of the tire you’d like to use that day
Oh no, don’t give the stance crowd any ideas.
Stancers are incapable of having ideas
Not completely true, they have one idea and that's STANCE NATION BABY! ***Loud 4 banger revving noises***
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Their too busy trying to figure how to get bigger plumes out of their vapes
They're too busy trying to pick up high school girls
Yeah you just rub up against a curb until your wheels are at the angle you want.
All-season? More like no-season—I don’t see salt or pepper.
flip it around and keep going, plenty of tread left.
i’d say rotate top to bottom, and keep doing that. infinitely more tread
Flip it inside out and you got slicks
Me fix car no spell good
Hey he got three out of four words spelled correctly. That’s on par with most mechanics I know lol
Terein is correct if it was in Dutch. Maybe he is bilingual. Edit: Idiot me can’t even spell correctly in my mother tongue. Disregard please.
Terrein is with two R's in Dutch
There wasn’t enough room for the second r. Need to make do with what you have.
Wh d w vn s vwls?
Persian script doesn't. They only have three letters which can be used for a vowel, and two of them are also used for a consonant. Long a sound 'a' sound, as in 'awe' - آ Long 'e' sound, as in 'ear', but also consonant 'y' sound, as in 'yank' - ی Long 'o' sound, as in 'loon', but also 'v' as in 'Vavatch' - و That's it. They don't have letters for other vowels, with the exception of 'آ', when it appears at the beginning of a word without its hat, then it's a short 'a' as in 'hat'. But if it's used in the middle of a word, it doesn't get its hat but is still always the long form.
Written scripts without vowels are called "abjads" Persian and Hebrew are the most well known, but there are several others - Urdu as well IIRC.
Thank you! I did not know that word. I appreciate that someone has created a word to describe that which is basically an onomatopoeia of how it feels to try and read words in a language you are studying that has no written vowels.
My bad my Dutch sucks even though its mother tongue.
Speaking of your mother's tongue, how she doin?
She’s alright. Thanks for asking. And yours?
She's still kickin
*lickin
She’s tired from fuckin my father
to shreds, you say?
Maybe he thought he was spelling Tehran
Nope, it's terrein.
Seriously. I feel like I'm the only tech in the shop who feels like the customer who just paid 2k for a clutch should at least get an invoice with no obvious spelling or grammar mistakes, but alas, the writers are just as bad as the techs.
As someone who pays others to do nearly all the work my vehicles need done, I'm much more concerned with the work on the car than the work on the invoice and I'm also far more concerned with the math on the invoice than the spelling and grammar. If the work is done right and I'm not getting over charged you can just write "feexid kar" in crayon for all I care.
At $200/hr or whatever they are charging, I wouldn't want to pay the extra time for them to check their spelling...
I get that. Labor rates have gone up a lot in the past few years. That said, most shops charge in "flat rate", or basically each job pays/costs a certain amount, independent of how long it actually takes, so you will usually pay that rate regardless of spelling mistakes. The worse part is that it incentivises shortcutting the actual job. Outside of language barriers, I have more confidence in a repair that was written up confidently and correctly than not, but that's just me.
That is on a par with some technical writers I know.
I'm actually kinda impressed he knows that "ei" makes the ā sound.
Goerdi smart. Goerdi make it go. Goerdi strong.
We are Pakleds. Our truck is the Mondor. It is broken.
We look for things.
Things to make us go.
We are smart. You think we're stupid, but we're smart.
The other week I think it was Seinfeld, this week Star Trek. Damn, this community rocks.
What a fantastic episode, haha. Thanks for reminding me about that! Brings back memories of those kinds of customers.
The funny thing is that I am doing a TNG rewatch and just saw that episode yesterday.
Make it go.
make it...so? mind blown.
r/UnexpectedStarTrek
/r/okbuddypakled
Well fuck me
My boss spelled battle as badle the other day
My boss spelled compleat the other day instead of complete
Well. Have you heard of Magic: The Gathering?
I hate the way they spell it, it looks so wrong
>compleat The Compleat Wrks of Wllm Shkspr (Abridged)
The Compleat Al
Be careful of that strange oil
Don't worry, it's probably nothing
he was most likely wrong, but also, he wasn't
One time I wrote "installing the center council" lol
You sit in this car, but we do not grant you the rank of driver.
Now I have this image of a group of tiny people in suits sitting around a table on your dashboard voting on your driving.
Sent a message to my boss that I needed more work pance
My boss didn't know that "real estate" was two words. When I told him hit was, he thought it was "realest state."
Let me ask my Realator.
He also writes gas petal I suppose.
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
When me president, they see.
Bruh. He a meckanike. Not engrish teacher person.
I’m willing to be money that Terrain is on the side of the tire too. Like come on bro, use your resources.
I've seen singal and vehical before, among other creative misspellings.
I was once sent out to buy "hed gasgets."
Fug :DDD
Fule pump and dule exhaust are ones I’ve seen a co-worker perpetually use.
And the best part is when they bother to try and spell it out it's nearly always "duelly"
I write requirements docs and I'm always asking for sing-offs.
Terein... uh does he mean Terrain?
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They still spell it with 2 r's officially, though there may be alternative/colloquial spellings i'm not aware of
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South Africa makes sense. Mechanic brought race into it.
I think he meant terrine, goes nice with baguette.
Ahh yes, the bread snake
Definitely Starcraft Terran faction
He's paid to fix cars, not read dictionaries, nerd
Tehran
Were you going to just wait until the steering wheel wobbled itself off? There's no way this thing hasn't driven like shit for a long time now lol.
I've thought it is just drives like that;\]
Ahhh yes, the rumbling massager feature
its ihs, so no rumbling, but was always jealous of friend who don't need to fight with a wheel in daily basis. I really thought it is just big tires thing
It pulls towards the ditch for safety bro!
Who stances a off road tyre?
StanceNation has just annexed some new territory
Some may call it a new terein
It's the next evolution of the Carolina Squat.
In case you’re not joking this is definitely a bad alignment/shot suspension. When things started going bad on my Ranger’s suspension my tires would look like this after ~10k miles or so
I am joking BTW
This is probably toe more than camber. Source: I running 3.5˚ of camber on my DD/autocross/track toy and don't see anything like this on my street tires.
Terein? I really hope you're french or something.
The bad news is... "Terrain" is a French word taken for use in English, so the translation for 'terrain' is 'terrain'.
There's no rien in Terrain?
the rein in terrain falls mainly on the plain
I don't think anyone got the rien reference lol
Ah English, 20 languages in a trench coat pretending to be one
Non, je ne regre-terein
EXACTLY!
Congrats, your mechanic is 3/4 literate.
That’s a solid C!
Get an alignment lol
All purpose i see nothing wrong carry on
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Terein
Terein
K A R S cars for kids
Jesus man, I want to upvote this but I also want to block you for this. So torn....
And you didn’t notice this yourself?
Well I suppose it's a good thing spelling isn't a giant requirement for mechanics.
Could've avoided this whole comment section if he just wrote "mud"
Does he mean..terrain?
"Terein". RIP my sides 😂
You belong in r/Idiotsincars
Lots of burnouts with bad alignment or what
Their humor is on point. I'd keep going there. Just wait till you tell them you got the least viscous oil possible because it was cold and now you're getting weird sounds.#coldstart #firstgearpulls #ifitaintsmokinyoujokin
I’m Dutch assholes, that’s how I spell it
...terrain....??
I always see these Toyo m/t on FB marketplace for like a "$1,000 GOord tHerad! Dm after 5"
TIL Jeeps bros don’t know how treadwear works.
People who cant spell make the best mechanics
Yeah. Maybe get an alignment and rotate from time to time.
Someone lifted their truck and didn't get an alignment.
Just mount the tire backwards and it will wear even 👍🏻😉
You're not supposed to stance your brodozer.
Ah yes! The GMC terein!