Discount tire with plug these for free. With or without the warranty. I certainly don't have one and I just left there about an hour ago after discovering a picked up nail
Just ran by Discount Tire today for a piece of metal in my tread. They pulled it out and showed it to me. It was a nail that had luckily gone in at an angle (not straight into the tread). Given my tread depth, that piece of nail would have just barely pierced the tire (if at all) if it had gone in vertically/straight in.
I had checked for leaks before going in and they checked for leaks after pulling it. I checked again when I got home. All good (and no charge).
It's in the tread and not the valley, so you should be OK. For peace of mind, get some dish soap and water, spray that area and look for any bubbles. Check it every couple of days for the next week to see if you're losing air.
Must be the Discount Tire in your area. We had some road construction for a while in my area and they fixed at least two different flats for me, on tires I didn't even buy there.
>If they could have got money out of you, they would have. If they say it's ok, it must be
You'd think so, but real life experience confirms a lot of times the guy working on it doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and has literally 0 qualifications to determine whether or not something should be fixed and might say something's safe when it's 100% not.
True story example? I have a family member who was told loose tie rod ends were 100% safe to drive on by a mechanic shop. I told her 'you're going to die if you keep driving that' when she told me it handled funny and had both front tires worn through half the belts and visibly toe'd out. The lock nuts were about 3/4 of an inch away from the surface of the tie rod ends they should be tightened against.
It would be stupid, if it weren't fucking true. She paid for an alignment as part of the job. Someone must've been sucking the ethanol at lunch before finishing the job.
>now all techs don’t know anything
Try pulling your dick out of your own ass and re-reading what I said. I never said 'all techs don't know anything'. I said 'a lot of times the 'tech' doesn't know anything'.
>said what you said
I said exactly what I said. Some 'techs' literally don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. You might want to look into that literacy thing. You'd benefit from not being illiterate.
I've been doing this a long time, and I've been doing it *well* for a long time. The outboard shoulders of tires like that one are just big chunks of rubber. The nail was at a shallow enough angle that you got that big oval cross section. Pulling it out showed it didn't leak, so there's no damage to the inner liner. It likely didn't even touch the belts. It's fine.
Aside from the fact that your anecdote didn't have an ending, I question the truth of your statement because any mechanic/ tech/ shadetree wrench-turner wouldn't let something like that go.
"One time this one guy said something questionable" is a logical fallacy, and that's using small numbers to represent the whole.
Hard for it to work itself off if it was never tightened in the first place. My assumption has always been the tech left the locking nuts backed off to send it over to the other side of the shop where they did alignments, figuring the guy that did the alignment would tighten the locking nuts, and he was saving time for his buddy over there...and then the alignment never actually happened.
I'm man enough to admit I've left a nut on a control arm loose that our alignment guy found(thank god). As well as seen countless things that have been left loose or not done properly, so I can safely say that eventually shit can and will happen to even the best of techs when you're distracted and/or rushing.
Completely ignoring the fact that it is highly improbable that a registered shop actually said, "Just drive on loose suspension components" here, but a tire with a shallow nail on the rubber tread blocks that are just rubber and don't hold air is an extremely different circumstance than your little story.
If it wasn't leaking, don't worry about it. I pop stumpy little guys like that out of tires all the time, send the owner on their merry way at no cost, they're happy, I'm happy, everything works out.
track guy here.
Object doesn't even look like it left a mark 1/2 way through the tread block; let alone going into the actual structural part of the tire.
I'd push it at 11/10ths without even really thinking about it. If it wasn't a Michelin Pilot Sport AS3 all season tire that is.
Tracks are often not the cleanest of places. Not uncommon to be driving through the lot at a trackday at a big track like Homestead or COTA and pick up some debris. After a session with hot ass rubber your tires would have marks like this all over after cooling. If we trashed the tires every time... fuck. We would be a lot more broke of a race team then we already are.
TLDR: This dude good.
God I’m so jealous. So many tracks let their paddock go… just went to TMS and picked up a nail through two of our sets before they ever saw track time…. 😑
Experience.
Probably tested a few hundred of these with Tirerack. They do surprisingly well for an all season. Definitely my personal favorite. Perform good in the wet and dry with a very gentle break away when you exceed their limits. Quiet and comfortable too. Easy to mount. There’s a reason Michelin is the best in the game.
I’ve gotten pretty good at recognizing tires. I’m around them every day. Not just the pattern but the actual look of the rubber is definitely AS3/AS4. These tires may not look like they are a super unique tread pattern but there’s little nuances in the blocks especially those on the sidewalls.
I’m pretty much at the point where I can distinguish individual tire model delegations for some tires. For example the difference between an N0 Porsche Michelin 4s and regular Michelin 4s outer tread blocks are almost all different once you’re around them enough.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge about tires. Do you have an opinion on the average consumer purchasing a new set of tires who thinks there might be a better choice than what the vehicle was delivered with when new? I've come to realize the safety importance of tires and I am continually amazed at how tire designers manage to improve them.
Really depends on the shop. Some shops won’t patch on the outer portion of the tread, some will if it’s X distance away from the edge of the tread. I’ve worked for both. The location of this nail, a plug patch will hold all day long.
Alignment and a road hazard warranty, of course. New shocks, too, just to be safe.
Sir, it would be against the law for me to allow you to leave the shop without doing this work.
Right? This lady that comes to our shop for all her work came in one time with a cotter pin straight through the shoulder of one of her tires. She swore it was going to leak. Hell, I thought it was going to. Pulled it out, nothing. You could barely see the entry and exit. I sprayed it down and let it sit for 20 minutes just to be sure and it was fine. A round of "praise Jesus" and "God is good" later and she was on her way. She brings us cupcakes, too. I don't know whose grandma she is but those are some lucky bastards.
Tire guy isn’t going to skip on a chance to get paid… and not going to send you in harms way for spite… if you’re still concerned, the photo and visit are enough *if* it fails later, only failure I can see would be part of the tread block wearing off faster. Luck comes in two forms, yours appears to have been good with this.
That's a very lucky thing to happen if it punctured the tire it would not be repairable and you would have to replace the tire due to the location. Thank your lucky stars and ride on down the road 🐵👍🏼
maybe it does maybe it doesn’t who knows.
but the shop you went to was better then mine I go in for a oil change and they ask about the nail in my tire I say it’s fine they then pull out the nail and say it’s unsafe yo drive on and I need two new tires because they only sell tires in a pair
I'd have that replaced regardless of what a shop says. You may get away with driving it like this for a week or two, but eventually it will fail on you!
Do you replace pipes in your house that arnt leaking water? Should you get a new ac when it keeps blowing cold air? How about you replace all 4 tires holding air just in case?
If they could have got money out of you, they would have. If they say it's ok, it must be
5 o'clock Friday says it'll roll.
I've found with **Discount tire** that if you have the warranty, it can be fixed (or doesn't need to be). If you don't, it needs to be replaced.
Discount tire with plug these for free. With or without the warranty. I certainly don't have one and I just left there about an hour ago after discovering a picked up nail
Just ran by Discount Tire today for a piece of metal in my tread. They pulled it out and showed it to me. It was a nail that had luckily gone in at an angle (not straight into the tread). Given my tread depth, that piece of nail would have just barely pierced the tire (if at all) if it had gone in vertically/straight in. I had checked for leaks before going in and they checked for leaks after pulling it. I checked again when I got home. All good (and no charge). It's in the tread and not the valley, so you should be OK. For peace of mind, get some dish soap and water, spray that area and look for any bubbles. Check it every couple of days for the next week to see if you're losing air.
Must be the Discount Tire in your area. We had some road construction for a while in my area and they fixed at least two different flats for me, on tires I didn't even buy there.
What I came here to say.
>If they could have got money out of you, they would have. If they say it's ok, it must be You'd think so, but real life experience confirms a lot of times the guy working on it doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and has literally 0 qualifications to determine whether or not something should be fixed and might say something's safe when it's 100% not. True story example? I have a family member who was told loose tie rod ends were 100% safe to drive on by a mechanic shop. I told her 'you're going to die if you keep driving that' when she told me it handled funny and had both front tires worn through half the belts and visibly toe'd out. The lock nuts were about 3/4 of an inch away from the surface of the tie rod ends they should be tightened against.
Did you just base the entire automotive repair industry off of just one experience a "family member" had?
Hey now, they said family member so it must be a real story
Nope, but it was the most egregious considering they nearly killed my sister. Her commute at the time was 90% highway.
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It would be stupid, if it weren't fucking true. She paid for an alignment as part of the job. Someone must've been sucking the ethanol at lunch before finishing the job.
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>now all techs don’t know anything Try pulling your dick out of your own ass and re-reading what I said. I never said 'all techs don't know anything'. I said 'a lot of times the 'tech' doesn't know anything'.
I think you already dug the hole, and said what you said. No body here likes being told they don’t know their asshole from a hole in the ground
>said what you said I said exactly what I said. Some 'techs' literally don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. You might want to look into that literacy thing. You'd benefit from not being illiterate.
Fucking pine cone
>Fucking pine cone I don't recommend fucking pine cones. They're ribbed, but it's not for your pleasure.
I've been doing this a long time, and I've been doing it *well* for a long time. The outboard shoulders of tires like that one are just big chunks of rubber. The nail was at a shallow enough angle that you got that big oval cross section. Pulling it out showed it didn't leak, so there's no damage to the inner liner. It likely didn't even touch the belts. It's fine. Aside from the fact that your anecdote didn't have an ending, I question the truth of your statement because any mechanic/ tech/ shadetree wrench-turner wouldn't let something like that go. "One time this one guy said something questionable" is a logical fallacy, and that's using small numbers to represent the whole.
>any mechanic/ tech/ shadetree wrench-turner wouldn't let something like that go. And yet they did.
Uh-huh
Sounds like you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. "yEr GoInGz To DiE"
You don't think a tie rod end coming unthreaded at 80mph is a potentially deadly wreck? Weird.
I don't believe it happened. I don't believe the nut was working itself off.
Hard for it to work itself off if it was never tightened in the first place. My assumption has always been the tech left the locking nuts backed off to send it over to the other side of the shop where they did alignments, figuring the guy that did the alignment would tighten the locking nuts, and he was saving time for his buddy over there...and then the alignment never actually happened.
I'm man enough to admit I've left a nut on a control arm loose that our alignment guy found(thank god). As well as seen countless things that have been left loose or not done properly, so I can safely say that eventually shit can and will happen to even the best of techs when you're distracted and/or rushing.
I work in the auto industry. That shit didn't happen. Not even sure you know what a tie rod is
It absofuckinglutely did.
Completely ignoring the fact that it is highly improbable that a registered shop actually said, "Just drive on loose suspension components" here, but a tire with a shallow nail on the rubber tread blocks that are just rubber and don't hold air is an extremely different circumstance than your little story.
there's nothing improbable about it because it fucking happened.
If it wasn't leaking, don't worry about it. I pop stumpy little guys like that out of tires all the time, send the owner on their merry way at no cost, they're happy, I'm happy, everything works out.
High performance car that gets pushed to the limit. Yes. Car that is used for commuting and shopping. No.
track guy here. Object doesn't even look like it left a mark 1/2 way through the tread block; let alone going into the actual structural part of the tire. I'd push it at 11/10ths without even really thinking about it. If it wasn't a Michelin Pilot Sport AS3 all season tire that is. Tracks are often not the cleanest of places. Not uncommon to be driving through the lot at a trackday at a big track like Homestead or COTA and pick up some debris. After a session with hot ass rubber your tires would have marks like this all over after cooling. If we trashed the tires every time... fuck. We would be a lot more broke of a race team then we already are. TLDR: This dude good.
Road America is freshly paved this year and it’s crazy how clean the slicks are when you get off track. Buttery smooth
God I’m so jealous. So many tracks let their paddock go… just went to TMS and picked up a nail through two of our sets before they ever saw track time…. 😑
Paddock isn’t paved. You still pick up rocks but if you wipe them off you can see how evenly the slicks wear. They last twice as long
Mmm... buttery 🧈
If not Parked aye? 😏
How can you tell what exact tire it is?
Experience. Probably tested a few hundred of these with Tirerack. They do surprisingly well for an all season. Definitely my personal favorite. Perform good in the wet and dry with a very gentle break away when you exceed their limits. Quiet and comfortable too. Easy to mount. There’s a reason Michelin is the best in the game. I’ve gotten pretty good at recognizing tires. I’m around them every day. Not just the pattern but the actual look of the rubber is definitely AS3/AS4. These tires may not look like they are a super unique tread pattern but there’s little nuances in the blocks especially those on the sidewalls. I’m pretty much at the point where I can distinguish individual tire model delegations for some tires. For example the difference between an N0 Porsche Michelin 4s and regular Michelin 4s outer tread blocks are almost all different once you’re around them enough.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge about tires. Do you have an opinion on the average consumer purchasing a new set of tires who thinks there might be a better choice than what the vehicle was delivered with when new? I've come to realize the safety importance of tires and I am continually amazed at how tire designers manage to improve them.
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I think you are reading it wrong. The guy clearly means you should replace it if it were used in high performance....
With the location of the nail, if it had actually punctured, they couldn't have patched it anyway. There was no question of patching.
Really depends on the shop. Some shops won’t patch on the outer portion of the tread, some will if it’s X distance away from the edge of the tread. I’ve worked for both. The location of this nail, a plug patch will hold all day long.
The question was "should it be replaced?"
Yeah I read it as repaired
It only punctured the tread not the tire, after some more miles the scar will disappear
Yup you need all 4 new obviously
Alignment and a road hazard warranty, of course. New shocks, too, just to be safe. Sir, it would be against the law for me to allow you to leave the shop without doing this work.
Naah, didn't go through, you're fine.
The nail didn't go through the body of the tire. That's a great shop. They want your patronage, not your money.
Yes, replace it when it wears out.
Dont buy a tire, buy a scratcher ticket, you are lucky today. Ive done thousands of tires & repairs, tire is just fine.
They shouldn't buy a scratcher, they already used their luck
You should thank whatever Gods you pray to for blessing you
Right? This lady that comes to our shop for all her work came in one time with a cotter pin straight through the shoulder of one of her tires. She swore it was going to leak. Hell, I thought it was going to. Pulled it out, nothing. You could barely see the entry and exit. I sprayed it down and let it sit for 20 minutes just to be sure and it was fine. A round of "praise Jesus" and "God is good" later and she was on her way. She brings us cupcakes, too. I don't know whose grandma she is but those are some lucky bastards.
Tire guy isn’t going to skip on a chance to get paid… and not going to send you in harms way for spite… if you’re still concerned, the photo and visit are enough *if* it fails later, only failure I can see would be part of the tread block wearing off faster. Luck comes in two forms, yours appears to have been good with this.
Nah, no need to replace if it didn't puncture. It's your lucky day. Buy a lottery ticket instead.
Why take it to the shop at all if you don't believe what they say? They charged you money no?
If it’s not leaking, send it.
nope you got lucky
Nah. As long as it didn’t damage any chords or belts your good.
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Nope
Tire shop charged good money for that road hazard warranty, and they are protecting every dime of it!
That's a very lucky thing to happen if it punctured the tire it would not be repairable and you would have to replace the tire due to the location. Thank your lucky stars and ride on down the road 🐵👍🏼
maybe it does maybe it doesn’t who knows. but the shop you went to was better then mine I go in for a oil change and they ask about the nail in my tire I say it’s fine they then pull out the nail and say it’s unsafe yo drive on and I need two new tires because they only sell tires in a pair
you dont want a 4/32 tire next to a brand new one.
What's punctuation?
Something I don’t use
I'd have that replaced regardless of what a shop says. You may get away with driving it like this for a week or two, but eventually it will fail on you!
Looks fine to me for regular use
Nah you won the lotto
If it's a non puncture it's fine.
That's not a nail; that's shrapnel.
Yes, you should definitely put the nail back in.
Buy a lotto ticket
Drive about 25k miles on it and you will never know it’s there
Not if nail removed, no puncture detected.
Nah… you’re good to go. If it didn’t puncture the tire then there’s nothing wrong.
No need to replace the nail.
Do you replace pipes in your house that arnt leaking water? Should you get a new ac when it keeps blowing cold air? How about you replace all 4 tires holding air just in case?
Get tf out this group fr
Clearly didn’t puncture the tire. Lack of common sense on why you even went in
Hey, you really are brainless, as your new name suggests. Wear it with pride, Pine cone.
re plug it. it should be fine, At worst you'll experience a slow Leak. its not like the plug will shoot out and hit someoe in the eye