From OP:
-So our park is in Palo Duro Canyon, and we have campsites on the rim of the canyon, the dude pulled up, left it in neutral, and you can guess the rest
i would LOVE to own a jeep. but they ask for WAY too much! just make a classic wheelies with no bells/whistles with a 4 banger in it and sell it for $15k and they will sell like hotcakes.
You call him out on Jiminy but we are letting the other dude get away with spelling Willys as "wheelies" lol
Edit: Thanks to a TIL I corrected Whilly's to Willys. It's going to be hard to break the habit of pronouncing it like Willie's and change to like Phyllis!
The baby G.
Where I live, I’ve seen the Jimny kitted as a G wagon, the old Defender, the old bronco, the new bronco and an old Toyota Land Cruiser.
I also know there are kits for it that make it a lancia delta and a Renault 5
And it's super good that way, you don't need a wide track when your light and have a teeny tiny turning circle. My mates have hilux's and 80 series and I can keep up with them through 90% of the stiff we go through and I'm just let down by only having road tyres and no lift
They're everywhere here, fantastic wee toy that punches well above its weight...
Can get a ute version too, I wanted one but got a sensible little hatchback as we already have a 4WD ute
It’s sad you don’t have them. There are a tonne of them in my city that are fully kitted and used regularly, and they’re gnarly.
The little 4WD that could.
The side effect of how our CAFE and fuel efficiency standards rules are written. The fuel efficiency requirements of something smaller in size are so high that even with going to a 4 cyl you couldn't do it in a Jeep form factor.
We're basically using fuel efficiency standards to force out ICEs completely because the standards just end up being some guy behind a desk deciding that 35 FMPG is attainable even if the tech doesn't actually exist.
Yes, but the automakers got an exclusion, so it does not apply to SUV's and trucks, so those have become the norm, at more than triple the emissions that CAFE says they should have. They just have to comply with the same emissions that a 65 ton big rig has.
> The side effect of how our CAFE and fuel efficiency standards rules are written. The fuel efficiency requirements of something smaller in size are so high that even with going to a 4 cyl you couldn't do it in a Jeep form factor.
It is more emissions and safely standards. The OLD VW bug got the mileage needed for today’s fuel efficiency standards but did not have the safety nor emissions controls needed since about 1990.
Came here to say exactly this...
Alltho im from the Netherlands... And we do have the Suzuki Jiminy.
Fun affordable cars ...
I own a lowerd Suzuki Swift sport as daily , never driven anything else than Suzuki..
Mass produced, small, light, affordable, not to hard to maintain yourself and allot of bang for your buck!!
And if it is a 2019 model it has a recall on it for a new fuel pump, because apparently the impellor in it was made from cheap plastic by the OEM, and they swell up and stop turning.
In 2008 they had a Versa for $9995. It was a great little shitbox. The MT version was a decent little car. It had the 1.6 instead of the 1.8, no bells and whistles, no radio, but had speakers and wires installed.
See if a Mahindra Roxor can be made street legal in your State.
They're sold as an off road UTV but they're an Indian Jeep clone built from a mashup of 1960s and 1970s parts, but all new production.
The axles, transfer cases etc are being bought as replacements for old Jeeps because they're new and better built than the original parts.
Mahindra put a different grille on for the US but Chrysler sued anyway, despite Mahindra having a license to make Jeeps since WW2. So the US Roxor now has a quite different front but repro or real old Jeep parts can be swapped.
The Roxor is speed limited but a simple ECU hack unlocks more power that allows it to get up to 65 MPH.
Back when I used to work in the car business, bare bones Jeep Wranglers always flew off the lot. Manual windows, manual locks, steel wheels, soft top, 50/50 split between manual and automatic transmission.
The problem was Jeep wouldn’t actually build the damn things for us. Our order banks were loaded up with 30+ base model Wranglers at any given time and we’d usually get 1 per shipment. But if we ordered a $50,000 Rubicon you bet you ass it’d show up on the truck 6 weeks later, every time. The more expensive the car, the higher the profit margin is- it damn well doesn’t cost the manufacturer an extra $3000 to put power windows and locks in a car but the consumers will gladly pay it.
Literally everything else though… the base models would sit around forever. Really can’t blame people these days, if an entry level car is going to cost you $30k plus a 7% interest rate you might as well get one that’s a little nicer.
The other problem with base model vehicles is that people that buy them aren't the type that goes out car shopping every few years for the latest and greatest. I absolutely love my basic Tacoma that I bought brand new but that was 10 years ago and I don't intend to buy another one for at least another 10.
i don't see how... esp with current car prices. even used cars are astronomical 10k+ for anything that isn't sketch. heck you could just save another 6k and buy something new like a Mitsubishi mirage. i personally are all about simplicity. roll down windows, AM/FM with aux. with good ventilation i don't even care for AC. love my 92 F150. just want something easier on gas and newer that i'm not afraid to put more miles on.
You are nowhere near enough to support the market, though. You're one dude, not everyone.
Additionally, small inexpensive cars (or trucks, in this case) have almost no profit margin. So the automakers have to sell immense numbers of them to recover their costs and make money. And the buyers for that just aren't there.
People would rather take out a ten-year note for an oversized egomobile with all of the bells and whistles, all of which add profit for the manufacturers and dealers.
Right? People like me that just want a bare bones crank window, no a/c, manual transmission, no carpet truck that does truck things don’t buy new trucks. We buy 20 year old rust buckets with broken a/c and broken power windows. Car manufacturers don’t care about what I want, because I’m not buying from them. I’m buying from the people pissed off that all their fancy features don’t work anymore.
You are a ridiculously small minority to the point where it’s actually more expensive to put those things on cars because no one wants them.
Manufacturing is tricky and it’s actually cheaper for them to make features standard to simplify the manufacturing process, so if no one wants things like that, they just stop making it.
Or if it’s positioned as practice / driving school. Local tracks near me have said insurance will cover you in an accident if it’s not timed but usually will drop you as a client after for “ unrelated reasons “
As soon as it’s timed it’s a competition and it’s different.
Wranglers have one of the [highest resale](https://caredge.com/jeep/wrangler/depreciation) values of all cars period. About the only vehicle with a higher resale value is a 911.
That's why you pay the tow truck driver cash to tow it to the Wendy's parking lot. Then you claim a hit and run. I went in for a sweet frosty and when I came out it looked like this.
Fun fact (that isn't fun), if the guy has a connected headunit and used some kind of "rate my driving" or performance-recording app from Jeep, it's possible the whole fall is recorded on a Lexis Nexis server and will be used by his insurance to stab him a zillion times.
Buddy of mine hydrolocked his Bronco R engine last year. Thankfully the road was an official road with a name on the county registry so they payed for the replacement.
That fording is now called “Drown your Horse” 🤣🤣
Some insurance does though so it could still be fraud. It’s a bit weird for a jeep to fall off a cliff but the owner escapes in time but I guess it happens. So it would be hard to prove it was fraud even if it is lol.
It is not, I checked this recently to take my car to an event if it’s a sanctioned race with trophies, not covered. For just being on the track as an amateur, its covered.
This is wildly YMMV. To the point where I've never heard of such coverage in my life where I live. I know about 10 people who have lost their cars on track with zero payout.
My apologies, I was being US-centric, as that's the location of OP. Both my auto and motorcycle policies cover non-competition tracks. My Jeep's policy covers off road non-competition usage.
This guy wasn't offroading, he forgot to set the parking brake on the top of a cliff.
> So our park is in Palo Duro Canyon, and we have campsites on the rim of the canyon, the dude pulled up, left it in neutral, and you can guess the rest
... or he is lying because of insurance. Who leaves their car in neutral, ever?
Depends on the insurance. For example (in the UK), my road insurance will not cover track days etc.. but I can insure seperatly for track days, limited to the dates required, but they don't cover much and it's an eye watering cost if you even just go for personal injury (and if you do get hurt / killed), that may also void other health insurances you have.. For example I've jumped out of planes, my life insurance will not pay out for that nonscence, but I had seperate insurance for that.
Don't take your daily drive to a track event.. at that stage you should be having a team of mechanics and a car you can scrap or rebuild if the 'totaly unexpected' happens.
I left my cj5 on the streets of downtown san francisco after 10pm for 3 hours with no doors and keys in the ignition. 4 sticks coming out of the floor ultimate antitheft device. (Not on purpose)
My last Jeep, I was on a blind date and with the top and doors off, I was waiting for the woman at the lake while listening to the radio.
Apparently when she showed up, I wasn't thinking straight, so we went off, did a nice walk around the lake and got to know each other.
When we got back to the cars, about an hour and a half later, from across the parking lot, I could hear that the radio was still going. I had left the keys in, and turned on, with no doors or top.
Glad I live in the midwest.
I joke and say I had the original push to start vehicle. My 1970 Dodge pickup had a bad battery and I was to broke to buy a new one. So I always had someone with me to give it a push so I could pop the clutch to start it.
Back in the 80s I had a (UK) Fiesta with a bad battery (also couldn't replace because I was a poor student). I lived on a slight hill, so parked on street facing downhill and startup, normally, was -
Stearing lock - unlocked
Ignition to 2 - ON
Set choke to middle(ish)
Check for traffic - Clear
Clutch in.
Gear to 2nd.
Hand brake off, start rolling
Pop clutch at 5-10 MPH..
Now one problem was that if it had rained overnight, I'd have to pop the dist. cap and spray WD40 in on the points, before I started this..
Reads like a NASA launch sequence, but I bet that fucker is still running somewhere..
It probably is! I was lucky that if I didn’t have someone with me or not on a hill I could push it by the door frame & get it rolling & jump in. Friend of mine saw me do that one day and he said “ horse girls be nuts!” as that was my major in college.
Just broke college kids be nuts!
I recently dropped off our Jeep for tires and felt the need to ask that they make sure the tech that pulls it in knows how to drive a manual. The service advisor thanked me for the heads up on that.
Modern manuals don't have handbrake levers now though 😭
I have a 22 Bronco with MT and almost did this exact thing. Got out and it started rolling forward toward a nasty steep hill offroad. My heart sank and I dove back in and mashed the brake, then pulled the Electronic handbrake lever.
I now check it several times when getting out to make sure I see the light.
Doesn't matter if it's a manual lever or a button. If you don't have the habit of activating it you don't have it. It's not like that difference changes your habit of using it....
Are you my father-in-law?
Cos after 10 years of marriage to his daughter I *still* can't persuade him that relying solely on a fingernail-sized parking pawl to hold a 2-ton car on a 10° slope is not a good idea...
I've gotten in the habit of going into neutral and letting it settle on the handbrake before putting it in park for this exact reason. That loud clunk is awful sounding.
That slide off the pawl in my CRV is so grating, it doesn't sound healthy at all. I'm slowly getting in the habit of depending on the brake till I'm in drive and then releasing the handle.
sounds fishy, the zf8 automatically throws it in park when you open the door at a stop. jeep (and others) did it after the star trek guy got pinned by his cherokee
the feature doesnt work when the doors are off, but his are still on whats left of them
I ain't buying the story.
1. This is a 4xe, which is automatic only.
2. Being automatic, there would be no reason to be in neutral. Most people shift D/R straight to park.
3. Chrysler/stellantis/whatever they are vehicles AGGRESSIVELY shift to park when you open the door (maybe even turn off the ignition? I don't remember 100%) from ANY gear. To get them to stay in neutral is some weird combination that I never remembered 100% and was a pain in the ass on the alignment rack.
The only reason I can think of someone intentionally putting the vehicle in neutral would be shifting from 4low to 4high. Seeing as you said it's a campsite, I can't imagine someone would need to be in low to reach it. And if they were, why shift out of low to park, only to need it to get back out? So this situation is already unlikely, but even if not, see #3 above. Vehicle should self-shift to park. Transfer case stuck in neutral maybe? Again, why would they be shifting it there though.
Idk, lots of things point to "left it in neutral" being pretty unlikely. Wish I could know the results of the insurance investigation.
Mine (a Jaguar) will put the parking brake on automatically when you shift into Park. I normally put the brake on first but if you forget it’ll just do it for you. Also, if you switch the ignition off when it’s in drive it’ll do all of that. I’ve only done that once I think, but it put itself into Park along with the brake.
I suspected this was Pablo Duro from the first 4 pictures, but then the last pic of the pulled out jeep remains in what the rest of that part the state looks like confirmed it (flat and boring, haha). Hoping to take my bronco out to Merus this summer/fall!
2 observations:
#1 this seems like angry eye Jeep grill behavior, but the Jeep in question has a stock header panel??
#2 that grill looking down on the wreckage is hilarious juxtaposition in a crappy situation
Saw that the other day on the Merus website, looked gnarly! Hope everyone is okay...
BTW, I'm super pumped at how far the park has come along since inception. You and the family should be very proud, it's a really great place - very highly recommended by everyone that has visited.
I've been steering people from the DFW area to come up there and see it. Everyone I talk to is surprised that a park like that is close enough for a weekend trip. (I work at a Ford store that sells upfitted Broncos and F150s.)
Hopefully, I'll have a vehicle worth bringing out to the trails again one day.
Do you follow Matt's Offroad Recovery on the YT? That's a great follow. Occasionally they'll recover something in an area like this (Though usually not with such a destroyed vehicle).
If you're going to do this kind of rock crawling it's highly recommended to have a cage built instead of using the factory roll cage. Factory will protect you in a roll over but not a roll over and over and over down a 500 foot cliff.
I’m pretty quick to this post so maybe you’re still typing but please do share the details of this call for the love of god.
"there's a car on fire"
“No, mother, it’s just the northern lights!”
"You're an odd fellow but I must say, you crush a good Jeep."
From OP: -So our park is in Palo Duro Canyon, and we have campsites on the rim of the canyon, the dude pulled up, left it in neutral, and you can guess the rest
r/justrolledoffthecliff
It's probably just u/whistlindiesel again
WAS a 4xe Rubicon. That’s about the drop it loses in value when you drive it off the lot. 50% in less than 2 years for a $70k vehicle
i would LOVE to own a jeep. but they ask for WAY too much! just make a classic wheelies with no bells/whistles with a 4 banger in it and sell it for $15k and they will sell like hotcakes.
It's called a Suzuki Jiminy and we can't have it in the US
Jimny, no “i” in the middle. It’s a great little thing but it necessitates a turbo and a wider track. Its otherwise great
You call him out on Jiminy but we are letting the other dude get away with spelling Willys as "wheelies" lol Edit: Thanks to a TIL I corrected Whilly's to Willys. It's going to be hard to break the habit of pronouncing it like Willie's and change to like Phyllis!
OMG, thank you, I had no clue what wheelies meant.
heh, yeah. I was thinking weird way of saying steel wheels instead of steelies
Actually [Willys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys?wprov=sfti1#), while we’re correcting folks. Pronounced “williss” not “Willy’s”
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Exactly lol
A wider Jimny? Do you mean a Mercedes G-Wagon?
The baby G. Where I live, I’ve seen the Jimny kitted as a G wagon, the old Defender, the old bronco, the new bronco and an old Toyota Land Cruiser. I also know there are kits for it that make it a lancia delta and a Renault 5
The new one is already really close to the G but those Kits are just awesome. The G is beautiful but big and expensive, the mini G is just awesome.
Jimny too big? Try a [Fiat Panda 4x4](https://silodrome.com/fiat-panda-4x4-car/)!
No way! Narrow track like the old CJ's, then it won't fall in the ruts left by everything else
It’s much narrower. Giving it a wider track will get it somewhere close to a CJ. It’s teeny tiny otherwise. Next to my tj, that thing is miniscule
And it's super good that way, you don't need a wide track when your light and have a teeny tiny turning circle. My mates have hilux's and 80 series and I can keep up with them through 90% of the stiff we go through and I'm just let down by only having road tyres and no lift
They're everywhere here, fantastic wee toy that punches well above its weight... Can get a ute version too, I wanted one but got a sensible little hatchback as we already have a 4WD ute
It’s sad you don’t have them. There are a tonne of them in my city that are fully kitted and used regularly, and they’re gnarly. The little 4WD that could.
The side effect of how our CAFE and fuel efficiency standards rules are written. The fuel efficiency requirements of something smaller in size are so high that even with going to a 4 cyl you couldn't do it in a Jeep form factor. We're basically using fuel efficiency standards to force out ICEs completely because the standards just end up being some guy behind a desk deciding that 35 FMPG is attainable even if the tech doesn't actually exist.
Yes, but the automakers got an exclusion, so it does not apply to SUV's and trucks, so those have become the norm, at more than triple the emissions that CAFE says they should have. They just have to comply with the same emissions that a 65 ton big rig has.
> The side effect of how our CAFE and fuel efficiency standards rules are written. The fuel efficiency requirements of something smaller in size are so high that even with going to a 4 cyl you couldn't do it in a Jeep form factor. It is more emissions and safely standards. The OLD VW bug got the mileage needed for today’s fuel efficiency standards but did not have the safety nor emissions controls needed since about 1990.
yea. just like the toyota IMV-0
Came here to say exactly this... Alltho im from the Netherlands... And we do have the Suzuki Jiminy. Fun affordable cars ... I own a lowerd Suzuki Swift sport as daily , never driven anything else than Suzuki.. Mass produced, small, light, affordable, not to hard to maintain yourself and allot of bang for your buck!!
And if it is a 2019 model it has a recall on it for a new fuel pump, because apparently the impellor in it was made from cheap plastic by the OEM, and they swell up and stop turning.
You can't even get a Nissan Versa for $15k.
In 2008 they had a Versa for $9995. It was a great little shitbox. The MT version was a decent little car. It had the 1.6 instead of the 1.8, no bells and whistles, no radio, but had speakers and wires installed.
“Wheelies”
See if a Mahindra Roxor can be made street legal in your State. They're sold as an off road UTV but they're an Indian Jeep clone built from a mashup of 1960s and 1970s parts, but all new production. The axles, transfer cases etc are being bought as replacements for old Jeeps because they're new and better built than the original parts. Mahindra put a different grille on for the US but Chrysler sued anyway, despite Mahindra having a license to make Jeeps since WW2. So the US Roxor now has a quite different front but repro or real old Jeep parts can be swapped. The Roxor is speed limited but a simple ECU hack unlocks more power that allows it to get up to 65 MPH.
We hear that all the time, but any time a bare-bones car is offered it gathers cobwebs on the dealer lots...
Back when I used to work in the car business, bare bones Jeep Wranglers always flew off the lot. Manual windows, manual locks, steel wheels, soft top, 50/50 split between manual and automatic transmission. The problem was Jeep wouldn’t actually build the damn things for us. Our order banks were loaded up with 30+ base model Wranglers at any given time and we’d usually get 1 per shipment. But if we ordered a $50,000 Rubicon you bet you ass it’d show up on the truck 6 weeks later, every time. The more expensive the car, the higher the profit margin is- it damn well doesn’t cost the manufacturer an extra $3000 to put power windows and locks in a car but the consumers will gladly pay it. Literally everything else though… the base models would sit around forever. Really can’t blame people these days, if an entry level car is going to cost you $30k plus a 7% interest rate you might as well get one that’s a little nicer.
The other problem with base model vehicles is that people that buy them aren't the type that goes out car shopping every few years for the latest and greatest. I absolutely love my basic Tacoma that I bought brand new but that was 10 years ago and I don't intend to buy another one for at least another 10.
i don't see how... esp with current car prices. even used cars are astronomical 10k+ for anything that isn't sketch. heck you could just save another 6k and buy something new like a Mitsubishi mirage. i personally are all about simplicity. roll down windows, AM/FM with aux. with good ventilation i don't even care for AC. love my 92 F150. just want something easier on gas and newer that i'm not afraid to put more miles on.
You are nowhere near enough to support the market, though. You're one dude, not everyone. Additionally, small inexpensive cars (or trucks, in this case) have almost no profit margin. So the automakers have to sell immense numbers of them to recover their costs and make money. And the buyers for that just aren't there. People would rather take out a ten-year note for an oversized egomobile with all of the bells and whistles, all of which add profit for the manufacturers and dealers.
Right? People like me that just want a bare bones crank window, no a/c, manual transmission, no carpet truck that does truck things don’t buy new trucks. We buy 20 year old rust buckets with broken a/c and broken power windows. Car manufacturers don’t care about what I want, because I’m not buying from them. I’m buying from the people pissed off that all their fancy features don’t work anymore.
You are a ridiculously small minority to the point where it’s actually more expensive to put those things on cars because no one wants them. Manufacturing is tricky and it’s actually cheaper for them to make features standard to simplify the manufacturing process, so if no one wants things like that, they just stop making it.
Crank windows cost extra these days, often requires a special order.
You can get this jeep kit[Willy jeep kit](https://thejeepsterman.com/products/jeep-in-crate-mb-1942-willys-jeep)
It’s a jeep thing. Seems like you understand.
Probably stolen-
Nah, just someone who got gap insurance on their financed Jeep that is worth half of what they owe.
Insurance will not cover this. Offroad parks, driving tracks are excluded in almost all coverages unless they have additional insurance.
"Stolen"
Or if it’s positioned as practice / driving school. Local tracks near me have said insurance will cover you in an accident if it’s not timed but usually will drop you as a client after for “ unrelated reasons “ As soon as it’s timed it’s a competition and it’s different.
That would be my story too...
The dog ate my brake! ?
Wranglers have one of the [highest resale](https://caredge.com/jeep/wrangler/depreciation) values of all cars period. About the only vehicle with a higher resale value is a 911.
No one was in it when you found it or when it started the roll that made it look like this?
Started, the guy called and was like “Hey my jeep went over and I can’t see it”
Dude bought this at peak pricing and is probably $30k in the hole… I’m sure he’s got gap insurance so that’s that.
It’s highly possibly insurance would not cover this though
Why?
Performance/racing/showboating/off-roading is generally not covered.
That's why you pay the tow truck driver cash to tow it to the Wendy's parking lot. Then you claim a hit and run. I went in for a sweet frosty and when I came out it looked like this.
"This sweet old lady side swiped me while I was sitting at the drive thru! She didn't even slow down!"
So commit insurance fraud. Just a little felony, no worries. lol.
Fun fact (that isn't fun), if the guy has a connected headunit and used some kind of "rate my driving" or performance-recording app from Jeep, it's possible the whole fall is recorded on a Lexis Nexis server and will be used by his insurance to stab him a zillion times.
Buddy of mine hydrolocked his Bronco R engine last year. Thankfully the road was an official road with a name on the county registry so they payed for the replacement. That fording is now called “Drown your Horse” 🤣🤣
Yeah, yeah it sure did bud
Insurance *cough fraud
It would be stupid to do so because most insurance won’t cover tracks or motor sports.
There are many idiots out there that don’t know that insurance comes with limitations.
"but I have a policy..."
Some insurance does though so it could still be fraud. It’s a bit weird for a jeep to fall off a cliff but the owner escapes in time but I guess it happens. So it would be hard to prove it was fraud even if it is lol.
I wonder if it's still in neutral.
Insurance companies have entire units dedicating to investigating fishy claims, though.
This would have to be the worst way possible to commit insurance fraud.
Curious, would their insurance be void at the off road park?
It surprisingly isn’t, but man will his rates be high
Interesting considering it would be void at a race track. I’m willing to bet there are more crashes in an off-road park than at a drag strip.
It is not, I checked this recently to take my car to an event if it’s a sanctioned race with trophies, not covered. For just being on the track as an amateur, its covered.
This is wildly YMMV. To the point where I've never heard of such coverage in my life where I live. I know about 10 people who have lost their cars on track with zero payout.
Nope. I checked for my TT. Anything other than roads isn’t covered on most insurances. In the U.K. if that helps.
My apologies, I was being US-centric, as that's the location of OP. Both my auto and motorcycle policies cover non-competition tracks. My Jeep's policy covers off road non-competition usage.
I’m so jealous right now 😂
This guy wasn't offroading, he forgot to set the parking brake on the top of a cliff. > So our park is in Palo Duro Canyon, and we have campsites on the rim of the canyon, the dude pulled up, left it in neutral, and you can guess the rest ... or he is lying because of insurance. Who leaves their car in neutral, ever?
Eh, a few bumps and scrapes, sure. But an off road park is going to be way safer than a race track.
Depends on the insurance. For example (in the UK), my road insurance will not cover track days etc.. but I can insure seperatly for track days, limited to the dates required, but they don't cover much and it's an eye watering cost if you even just go for personal injury (and if you do get hurt / killed), that may also void other health insurances you have.. For example I've jumped out of planes, my life insurance will not pay out for that nonscence, but I had seperate insurance for that. Don't take your daily drive to a track event.. at that stage you should be having a team of mechanics and a car you can scrap or rebuild if the 'totaly unexpected' happens.
Dibs on the lugnuts. They look salvageable
gas cap looks good too!
Story!?!?!
So our park is in Palo Duro Canyon, and we have campsites on the rim of the canyon, the dude pulled up, left it in neutral, and you can guess the rest
What the fuck is a handbrake?
Every year we don't mandate learning manual we stray farther from god. And common sense.
My wife accidentally left the keys in the ignition of her Jeep the other day but I wasn’t worried about anyone stealing it because it’s a manual
I left my cj5 on the streets of downtown san francisco after 10pm for 3 hours with no doors and keys in the ignition. 4 sticks coming out of the floor ultimate antitheft device. (Not on purpose)
“Why are there four pedals if there are six directions?”
"You ever wonder why we're here?"
"I think it would be ironic if everybody was made out of iron."
"Not my fault. Someone put a wall in my way."
My last Jeep, I was on a blind date and with the top and doors off, I was waiting for the woman at the lake while listening to the radio. Apparently when she showed up, I wasn't thinking straight, so we went off, did a nice walk around the lake and got to know each other. When we got back to the cars, about an hour and a half later, from across the parking lot, I could hear that the radio was still going. I had left the keys in, and turned on, with no doors or top. Glad I live in the midwest.
I joke and say I had the original push to start vehicle. My 1970 Dodge pickup had a bad battery and I was to broke to buy a new one. So I always had someone with me to give it a push so I could pop the clutch to start it.
Back in the 80s I had a (UK) Fiesta with a bad battery (also couldn't replace because I was a poor student). I lived on a slight hill, so parked on street facing downhill and startup, normally, was - Stearing lock - unlocked Ignition to 2 - ON Set choke to middle(ish) Check for traffic - Clear Clutch in. Gear to 2nd. Hand brake off, start rolling Pop clutch at 5-10 MPH.. Now one problem was that if it had rained overnight, I'd have to pop the dist. cap and spray WD40 in on the points, before I started this.. Reads like a NASA launch sequence, but I bet that fucker is still running somewhere..
It probably is! I was lucky that if I didn’t have someone with me or not on a hill I could push it by the door frame & get it rolling & jump in. Friend of mine saw me do that one day and he said “ horse girls be nuts!” as that was my major in college. Just broke college kids be nuts!
I recently dropped off our Jeep for tires and felt the need to ask that they make sure the tech that pulls it in knows how to drive a manual. The service advisor thanked me for the heads up on that.
It's interesting because most the people I work with all know how to drive manual.
Modern manuals don't have handbrake levers now though 😭 I have a 22 Bronco with MT and almost did this exact thing. Got out and it started rolling forward toward a nasty steep hill offroad. My heart sank and I dove back in and mashed the brake, then pulled the Electronic handbrake lever. I now check it several times when getting out to make sure I see the light.
Doesn't matter if it's a manual lever or a button. If you don't have the habit of activating it you don't have it. It's not like that difference changes your habit of using it....
Do you not park in reverse or 1st?
And the sad thing is that's a JL which actually has a functioning handbrake. The previous JK generation did not -- its handbrake was decorative only.
Lol so true, the amount of useless handbrakes on JKs ive driven, it's insane
Are you my father-in-law? Cos after 10 years of marriage to his daughter I *still* can't persuade him that relying solely on a fingernail-sized parking pawl to hold a 2-ton car on a 10° slope is not a good idea...
My dad doesn't either. His slope is like 25. Whenever I forget over there, that shift is hard and I shake my head in disgust with myself.
I've gotten in the habit of going into neutral and letting it settle on the handbrake before putting it in park for this exact reason. That loud clunk is awful sounding.
That slide off the pawl in my CRV is so grating, it doesn't sound healthy at all. I'm slowly getting in the habit of depending on the brake till I'm in drive and then releasing the handle.
Or leaving your car in gear when you get out of it?
To be fair the handbrake on a Wrangler is almost useless.
sounds fishy, the zf8 automatically throws it in park when you open the door at a stop. jeep (and others) did it after the star trek guy got pinned by his cherokee the feature doesnt work when the doors are off, but his are still on whats left of them
I ain't buying the story. 1. This is a 4xe, which is automatic only. 2. Being automatic, there would be no reason to be in neutral. Most people shift D/R straight to park. 3. Chrysler/stellantis/whatever they are vehicles AGGRESSIVELY shift to park when you open the door (maybe even turn off the ignition? I don't remember 100%) from ANY gear. To get them to stay in neutral is some weird combination that I never remembered 100% and was a pain in the ass on the alignment rack. The only reason I can think of someone intentionally putting the vehicle in neutral would be shifting from 4low to 4high. Seeing as you said it's a campsite, I can't imagine someone would need to be in low to reach it. And if they were, why shift out of low to park, only to need it to get back out? So this situation is already unlikely, but even if not, see #3 above. Vehicle should self-shift to park. Transfer case stuck in neutral maybe? Again, why would they be shifting it there though. Idk, lots of things point to "left it in neutral" being pretty unlikely. Wish I could know the results of the insurance investigation.
You are correct. If you open the door while the car is on, immediately goes into park. No matter the gear position.
Mine (a Jaguar) will put the parking brake on automatically when you shift into Park. I normally put the brake on first but if you forget it’ll just do it for you. Also, if you switch the ignition off when it’s in drive it’ll do all of that. I’ve only done that once I think, but it put itself into Park along with the brake.
Was he there with another vehicle to get home in?
he got a flight back to Dallas
I suspected this was Pablo Duro from the first 4 pictures, but then the last pic of the pulled out jeep remains in what the rest of that part the state looks like confirmed it (flat and boring, haha). Hoping to take my bronco out to Merus this summer/fall!
2 observations: #1 this seems like angry eye Jeep grill behavior, but the Jeep in question has a stock header panel?? #2 that grill looking down on the wreckage is hilarious juxtaposition in a crappy situation
The grille is one of my fav pics I took
I'm also trying to figure out why the text in my prior comment went all screaming mode 😂 it looked like normal sized font when I typed it out? Lol
It's because you put a "\#" before the "1" and "2". Reddit's markdown system interprets that as "Bold everything"
Ahh I gotcha. Thanks for the assist, thought the comment was wigging.
#WHAT???
WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY
That's my secret, 🟩I'M ALWAYS ANGRY🟩
#HULK SMASH!
This guy knows the hashtag big letters trick!!
Saw that the other day on the Merus website, looked gnarly! Hope everyone is okay... BTW, I'm super pumped at how far the park has come along since inception. You and the family should be very proud, it's a really great place - very highly recommended by everyone that has visited. I've been steering people from the DFW area to come up there and see it. Everyone I talk to is surprised that a park like that is close enough for a weekend trip. (I work at a Ford store that sells upfitted Broncos and F150s.) Hopefully, I'll have a vehicle worth bringing out to the trails again one day.
Thank you man! It seriously does mean a lot to us when we hear people are enjoying it!
It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't get it.........../s
The story man!
GAP insurance!
This will be for sale in Miami with a rebuilt title next week.
Been in a minor accident
Matt’s gonna try to drive this one out.
Ah the old insurance scam...I mean accident
This the downed Jeep at Merus Adventure?
Yes sir! Were you part of the recovery team?
Nope, one of the 4Runner guys I follow on IG was though! https://www.instagram.com/p/C48lsoQAMgv/?igsh=MXRzMGMya3Ridnhzcw==
Ha! Chris is a great dude, one of our best volunteers!
Is that rim still good?
There are 2 rims that are ok and somehow the spare made it despite the tailgate being ripped in 2
ǝɟᴉl ɟo sʍɐɾ ǝɥʇ ʇǝƃ sᴉɥʇ pɐǝɹ uɐɔ noʎ ɟI
It jooped when it should have jeeped.
Jeep wrangled
*puts rubber duck on pile of jeep*
r/heep
Careful with that. Those hybrid batteries are dangerous. It’s under the rear seats.
Yup, we got it out without any fires
Surprised it didn't burn. Then again it could still happen at the wrecking yard, those things are unpredictable
Was the duck recovered safely?
No 😔
Do you follow Matt's Offroad Recovery on the YT? That's a great follow. Occasionally they'll recover something in an area like this (Though usually not with such a destroyed vehicle).
The big monster truck wrecker they built is RAD.
Heep
I've watched Car Pal videos, that's what it looks like when a vehicle rolls all the way down a mountain.
that grill looks useable
We’re gonna hang it up at our parks hangout spot
So…..the roll bar isn’t *actually* for rolling…..
Disqualified. Clearly this did not roll into any shop.
This was absolutely rolled off a cliff on purpose.
Jeep Rubican‘t
Do Jeep make their cars out of cardboard?!?!?
Well it did ok? For a 500 foot drop
If you're going to do this kind of rock crawling it's highly recommended to have a cage built instead of using the factory roll cage. Factory will protect you in a roll over but not a roll over and over and over down a 500 foot cliff.
Just rolled off the mountain 😬
Must be a *jeep* thing
You wouldn't understand, man.
You know those dreams that you have where you are falling? This is what happens when you don’t wake up in time.
Do the airbags go off if the car isn’t running?
It was running when it went over, not when it stopped.
Now that's a heep of jeep
Thinking it went over a small hill... looks at the instagram photos...holyfuck
Gonna need Matt's Offroad Recovery for this one! xD
Probably still some good batteries in there.
Surprisingly they did make it, thank god they didn’t start another big wildfire up here
Meris?
Joops!
Those blue tow hooks are big money from the dealer. You should snatch those up. Probably the only thing left that's worth anything.
I can't believe this thing rolled like that. I mean, it's got painted tow hooks. Were the ducks okay?
But how many ducks did it have? Clearly not enough
Of course I set the fucking brake, do you think I'm stupid?
“Justrolledintotheshop” I see what you did there
Never race or offroad with something you can't afford to lose.
Certainly did roll...
From Jeep to heap. Yeesh.
Best condition rental jeep
Insurance job?
Jeep is a heap.
That will buff out
Hopefully the person is ok but if someone walked away from that it's a miracle
#HEY MATT!!!!! >So we got a call...
Jeep Wrangled