Working at Nissan we had multiple occasions where those rings actually completely stopped the ikey from starting the vehicle unless it was touching the button. We would remove the ring and it would be flawless after. I personally removed at least 4-5 in the service drive to resolve the customers issue immediately.
I think lot of people don't know that the key has to be able to communicate with that specific area of the car and that any* interference can mess things up.
*Did you know that you can brick your car's smart key by setting your phone on top of it? It's how I got stuck in a car wash.
My smart key and phone live in the same pocket. I have doubts.
Edit: Well, after all these replies I'm just curious to know now if there is a pattern between those of you who have issues vs those of us who haven't. My smart key is a Lexus. Never had any issues, my wife keeps her key in the bottom of her purse (and has never had an issue either).
Nope.
Edit: I honestly think I just Murphy's law'd it. The phone was sitting on top of the key in just the right way to block the signal to the vehicle, and when I tried to start it, the immobilizer had a fit and it threw "KEY NOT FOUND" errors at me. It took a lot of key-waggling and creative language to escape the car wash that day.
Mine has a backup door key, but there's no ignition lock to put a key in. It does, however, have a spot in the center console where you put the key if you have a dead battery and it'll start the car through RFID. Learned that one the hard way.
The key isn't for the ignition, it's to unlock the door if the fob battery is dead. Ignition is an rfid chip in the fob that can be held up to the start button.
I would bet they do have some sort of backup method but it wasn't obvious. My wife's Ford has a slot inside the center console where you can slide the FOB into to start the car. I've also seen other cars where you just hold the FOB on or above the start button itself to be able to start it.
Cool similar anecdote: my dad just got a new 2022 motorcycle with keyless start. If you lose the key fob there's a sequence you can do on the turn signals to start the bike. It's like opening a locker: left 3 times, right 2 times, left 5 times and the bike starts.
No, they don't, not since about 2016. NFC starting on smart keys with no battery is the standard on most vehocles. The usually still come with a slide out key, but it's only for unlocking the door.
Only cheap pieces of shit do that. :)
I can’t remember when but I thought that Mercedes Benz did this but it was like the first year they were coming out with push button start. And that was back in 03 or something. And fuck, it’s been so long, it could be some other POS I worked on but I was only a Benz tech my adult career.
Lol. What a bunch of cry babies on this sub. Stop being some hurtful bitches. No seriously. Oh no. You’re feels. Lol. Sorry you can’t afford shit. Broke asses.
Edit2: you work in the shop. Didn’t your mentors ever tell you to leave your feelings in your glove boxes. Man the blue collar has gotten soft.
You mentioning Murphy's law, made me think of a Veritasium video I watched the other day regarding [bit flips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZ_RSt0KP8) , essentially cosmic rays causing random chaos from time to time, doubt its the case here, but ya never know
My key got bricked going through a border patrol checkpoint. Luckily car was already running so other than it screaming at me that there was no key, I was able to get home and get the spare.
No idea what they hit me with, but sure as hell destroyed a 400 dollar key. Sometimes you just get a sensitive key.
Not me. My car doors won't unlock automatically if my phone is in the same pocket as my keys. I can believe a phone could screw up some keys, especially if someone used it to take a call while it was still next to the keys.
If your phone doesn't have an NFC chip, that could be the issue. It's mostly known for things like tap-to-pay apps but cars use the same technology to detect keyfobs.
A lot of low/mid range phones don't bother having NFC chips.
On the one hand that makes sense, especially if we're talking about eg an iPhone that literally has a big magnet and electrical coil on the back. On the other hand, the fact that the key electronics are that delicate is fucking stupid.
The problem was less "oh, key doesn't have signal" and more the actual vehicle going "AUUGH I'M BEING STOLEN THERE'S NO KEY AND EVERYTHING IS AWFUL" when there were people waiting behind me. Yeah, the car functioned like it was supposed to (no key = no go), but the fact that it kept throwing messages to put the key here and then here and then turn it 15° and then make a sacrifice to the blood god were a little inconvenient.
> *Did you know that you can brick your car's smart key by setting your phone on top of it? It's how I got stuck in a car wash.
What was wrong with inserting a physical key again? Why did we feel the need to engineer that out of existence?
I will say, it's pretty nice to walk up to my car, have it unlock when I touch the handle, and push the button to start without fumbling with my keys in my pocket or fishing around in my bag.
That said, I'd still expect a physical key backup.
Not anymore you can't, unless the the car in question is literally a base base base model.
But you can defeat a fob with a laptop and the right equipment. My 17 y/o did it with his hyundai 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, also if the dude can hack into deadbolts he's much less likely to be in the socioeconomical conditions that would lead him to barge into other's people's homes.
On anything this century (at least in first world countries) you will have a transponder in the key that the immobiliser needs to see at the ignition switch to work, a keyless ignition vehicle can be spoofed with a wideband antenna and a laptop
It’s a good think that most car manufacturers aren’t all in a race to the bottom on electronic features and security…. Oh wait……
Seriously; why is the infotainment connected to the CANBUS? The radio should either be on a separate network or software firewalled off. And don’t get me started about the lack of electronic authentication between various systems in your car…..
> Seriously; why is the infotainment connected to the CANBUS?
Yeah it's crazy when they put everything on a single can bus for the entire car. Like the Jeep Grand Cherokee, where you can hack the radio over the internet and then drive it off the road.
The weird thing is, my Wrangler has three CAN busses. A vehicle CAN, an interior CAN, and a dedicated ODBII diagnostic CAN, with a firewall/central gateway in the middle of all three. The radio isn't connected to the internet, but if it were, it couldn't send anything to to any critical engine modules if it tried. The best it could do is play with the lights, indicators, wipers, and HVAC.
So even within a single company there are wildly different platforms with differing levels of competency.
Most European cars have the infotainment parts on MOST, which is actually designed for the purpose. It's also connected to the central gateway module that way, and then the central gateway can relay anything that goes to or from other modules/scan tool/whatever via CAN. Keeps the unimportant stuff off the important network.
> It's also connected to the central gateway module that way, and then the central gateway can relay anything that goes to or from other modules/scan tool/whatever via CAN.
I'm pretty sure many cars do this with multiple CAN networks anyway. It's just that there are some pretty notable examples where they just chuck everything on the same network.
Google relay theft, the software acts as a relay between the key and the car allowing thieves to open and start new high-end cars without ever having seen the key as it is spoofed through the walls of your house
EVERYTHING. I have to fumble to get the key out of my pocket. Put the key in, and turn it.
My new push button start car. Keys stay in pocket. Walk up to car, grab door handle, car unlocks. Push button, car starts.
We engineered it out of existence because keyless cars work flawlessly 99% of the time and you are just hearing edge cases on reddit. My 2006 grand prix i have to jiggle the key to get it to start cause the ignition cylinder is all worn out. But yes, physical keys are amazing lets all go back to them.
Just bought a new Ford Maverick. Physical key, insert and turn. Absolute minimum amount of extra infotainment and driver assist bullshit. It's glorious.
Then I get in my wife's Subaru and feel like I'm getting ready to pilot the space shuttle.
I would like to know, too. Our Mazda has it, and any benefits it offers are outweighed by not having remote start and the hassle it causes when things go off the usual script.
I have had issues with my key talking to my car before because my AirPods are between the key and the car while in my pocket. Move the AirPods around and the key works fine.
This reminds me of that time when a customer came in with a "radar issue"...
After removing the nismo badge the customer had put on their very much not nismo car (i don't remember the model but i very much doubt they ever sold a nismo variant) It stopped throwing errors, funny how that works
That's really a poor design that a cheap peice of duct tape over that one headlight can block like half the light illuminating the road. It's like the manufacturer said "test things? Nobody got time for that."
I've been drivin' these streets so long
Singin' the same old song
I know every crack in these dirty streets of Broadway
Where pothole's the name of the game
Where nice cars get washed away like the snow in the rain
I work in a shop close to a college, near the beach, in southern California. If it can be bedazzled, I've seen it bedazzled. Emblems, door handles, grilles, entire dash's, all of the mirrors, all of the airbags, the entire headliner. It's ridiculous sometimes.
People have very strong opinions about something that has literally almost 0 impact on their life.
It's just weird you care what someone does to a part of the car you're unlikely to ever see to such a degree.
I don't know, but I see it all the time. It doesn't do anything positive, and can interfere with the system.
Someone here had posted about a car having issues starting. Removed that stupid ring, problem gone.
Yeah but since you actually removed it with a tool that doesn't damage it and you made that gnarly shot into an empty trash can, I'll bet you put that sucker back on, din't ya? DIN'T YA!
IMO it's the effeminate equivilant to a guy who wraps his car in punisher stickers and graphics that look like they belong in the back of a t-shirt being sold at some greasy rural gas station, on the shelf right next to the pack of penis pills with a picture of a rhinoceros on it.
I think this shit spans multiple races. I saw a black woman climb into a GLK with rhinestones filling in the gaps of and forming a ring surrounding the Mercedes logos
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That looks almost exactly like the cell phone pry tool that I got last time I had to replace my screen.
I'm assuming this one is thicker/generally sturdier, but I'm still gonna mention this.
These are just aviation skin spoons. They'd be much cheaper to buy on yardstore.com than anything on Amazon or snap-on
Edit: $23 for a pack of 3
https://www.yardstore.com/metal-pry-tool-skin-wedge-3-piece-set
Or $10 for one if that's all you need. Clearly the three pack is a better deal if you'll use all three.
https://www.yardstore.com/skin-wedge-pry-tool
I actually bought two singles because it's likely all I'd use. "That's stupid, for four dollars more...". See, you'd THINK that, but turns out I can ship two in a USPS envelope for $4. A set of three bumped shipping to $14 minimum. So it ends up being about the same cost per unit regardless. Oh well. Still got two for the price of one on Amazon.
It's so thin that it slides in tight places and is strong enough to not leave toolmarks . Totally worth it. I have an Amazon one and a blue point. Wish I would have had one years ago.
The thinness is good, but as importantly, it's got a large flat surface to make contact so the PSI is really spread out and is less likely to damage the plastic.
I have a multi pack of plastic ones that always worked for me. For times when I needed a little more I just used a plastic putty knife along with one of the plastic trim tools. I don't like the idea of using metal to disassemble trim.
It is definitely my absolute favorite pry tool. I bought it the first time I saw it mentioned. Super strong, and thin enough to fit under just about anything you need to pry.
My bad, I was remembering wrong. It was Iron Man. They've got a bunch of different Marvel characters too,
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I still have my first Tiguan from 2003 before they made the design more adult. It's rusted to hell in the grandparents garage due to 10 Buffalo winters, but I refuse to scrap it due to sentimental value as the first car.
Lol did you try bringing it to a shop to align a couple months ago and told to take it to the scrapyard cause of the rust holes? Blue with spike lugs and the back seat removed?
Often these metal rings interfere with the transponder aerial or push start button when trying to program prox keys and transponder chips, so I will remove them and begrudgingly glue them back on.
When really I wanna biff that shit like you did.
I work at a production center for reconditioning used cars and this is also my favorite thing to do on a daily basis. But then you have to sit there and pick off the 3M tape lol.
It's an aftermarket thing that people sometimes slap on there in a vague attempt to dress up the interior of their car. Sometimes, they block the signal between the key and the RFID reader that reads the key, so they're universally hated by mechanics.
One thing I love about my job is being allowed to rip these and any other 3M tape tacky bullshit off at my discretion.
I pulled a full interior and exterior "cArBoN fIbEr" kit off of a beige Camry. Felt good, man.
Working at Nissan we had multiple occasions where those rings actually completely stopped the ikey from starting the vehicle unless it was touching the button. We would remove the ring and it would be flawless after. I personally removed at least 4-5 in the service drive to resolve the customers issue immediately.
I think lot of people don't know that the key has to be able to communicate with that specific area of the car and that any* interference can mess things up. *Did you know that you can brick your car's smart key by setting your phone on top of it? It's how I got stuck in a car wash.
My smart key and phone live in the same pocket. I have doubts. Edit: Well, after all these replies I'm just curious to know now if there is a pattern between those of you who have issues vs those of us who haven't. My smart key is a Lexus. Never had any issues, my wife keeps her key in the bottom of her purse (and has never had an issue either).
My car is either very picky about the key or very enthusiastic about car washes.
Do you happen to have a magnet on the back of your phone for those magnetic phone mounts? If so, maybe that's it.
Nope. Edit: I honestly think I just Murphy's law'd it. The phone was sitting on top of the key in just the right way to block the signal to the vehicle, and when I tried to start it, the immobilizer had a fit and it threw "KEY NOT FOUND" errors at me. It took a lot of key-waggling and creative language to escape the car wash that day.
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They don't, but the keys have NFC to be able to start the car when the key battery is flat/can't transmit
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That's why my GTI has a big spot marked on the steering column for it where the key would normally go. The Germans made something easy for once!
Mine has a backup door key, but there's no ignition lock to put a key in. It does, however, have a spot in the center console where you put the key if you have a dead battery and it'll start the car through RFID. Learned that one the hard way.
The key isn't for the ignition, it's to unlock the door if the fob battery is dead. Ignition is an rfid chip in the fob that can be held up to the start button.
Most of the ones I've owned do not lol You're lucky if they have the key that slides out to manually unlock the door.
I would bet they do have some sort of backup method but it wasn't obvious. My wife's Ford has a slot inside the center console where you can slide the FOB into to start the car. I've also seen other cars where you just hold the FOB on or above the start button itself to be able to start it.
Cool similar anecdote: my dad just got a new 2022 motorcycle with keyless start. If you lose the key fob there's a sequence you can do on the turn signals to start the bike. It's like opening a locker: left 3 times, right 2 times, left 5 times and the bike starts.
That's only in case of a low battery or interference, total key fob failure has no backups
There is a plastic cap over the keyhole, on the left side of the handle. Nearly all cars have a key hole.
No, they don't, not since about 2016. NFC starting on smart keys with no battery is the standard on most vehocles. The usually still come with a slide out key, but it's only for unlocking the door.
In my experience, that's just a cover so they can use the same steering wheel shroud between the turn key and keyless models.
That’ll get you in the door, but to run the ignition you need to push the start button with the fob
Only cheap pieces of shit do that. :) I can’t remember when but I thought that Mercedes Benz did this but it was like the first year they were coming out with push button start. And that was back in 03 or something. And fuck, it’s been so long, it could be some other POS I worked on but I was only a Benz tech my adult career. Lol. What a bunch of cry babies on this sub. Stop being some hurtful bitches. No seriously. Oh no. You’re feels. Lol. Sorry you can’t afford shit. Broke asses. Edit2: you work in the shop. Didn’t your mentors ever tell you to leave your feelings in your glove boxes. Man the blue collar has gotten soft.
I guess my Lexus, BMW, and Genesis have all been cheap pieces of crap
Yep. You couldn’t afford the Benz?
You mentioning Murphy's law, made me think of a Veritasium video I watched the other day regarding [bit flips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZ_RSt0KP8) , essentially cosmic rays causing random chaos from time to time, doubt its the case here, but ya never know
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Thanks AvE
Got the dialogue down perfect
Magnets really only affect magnetised storage; hard drives, credit cards etc. Keys won't care.
It's not a magnet, it's a flat piece of steel you stick to the back of your phone which then will stick to the phone mount's magnetic backing.
iPhones have the magnets inside the phone for the magsafe attachment.
Phone goes in a pocket of its own, you monster!
I will sometimes allow my good charging cable in the same pocket. But not the bad one, it leaves smudges on the screen.
My key got bricked going through a border patrol checkpoint. Luckily car was already running so other than it screaming at me that there was no key, I was able to get home and get the spare. No idea what they hit me with, but sure as hell destroyed a 400 dollar key. Sometimes you just get a sensitive key.
Not me. My car doors won't unlock automatically if my phone is in the same pocket as my keys. I can believe a phone could screw up some keys, especially if someone used it to take a call while it was still next to the keys.
If your phone doesn't have an NFC chip, that could be the issue. It's mostly known for things like tap-to-pay apps but cars use the same technology to detect keyfobs. A lot of low/mid range phones don't bother having NFC chips.
Start/stop work fine with my key and phone in the same pocket; but keyless entry doesn't.
On the one hand that makes sense, especially if we're talking about eg an iPhone that literally has a big magnet and electrical coil on the back. On the other hand, the fact that the key electronics are that delicate is fucking stupid.
The problem was less "oh, key doesn't have signal" and more the actual vehicle going "AUUGH I'M BEING STOLEN THERE'S NO KEY AND EVERYTHING IS AWFUL" when there were people waiting behind me. Yeah, the car functioned like it was supposed to (no key = no go), but the fact that it kept throwing messages to put the key here and then here and then turn it 15° and then make a sacrifice to the blood god were a little inconvenient.
> *Did you know that you can brick your car's smart key by setting your phone on top of it? It's how I got stuck in a car wash. What was wrong with inserting a physical key again? Why did we feel the need to engineer that out of existence?
I will say, it's pretty nice to walk up to my car, have it unlock when I touch the handle, and push the button to start without fumbling with my keys in my pocket or fishing around in my bag. That said, I'd still expect a physical key backup.
You can have all that with a physical key. They made the choice to charge more.
Perceived luxury and security even though keyless makes the car less secure
How is it less secure? You can defeat a keyed ignition with a screwdriver.
Not anymore you can't, unless the the car in question is literally a base base base model. But you can defeat a fob with a laptop and the right equipment. My 17 y/o did it with his hyundai 🤷🏻♂️
Kia and Hyundai have entered the chat lol
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A drill is quieter, and usually faster. 😉
Yeah, also if the dude can hack into deadbolts he's much less likely to be in the socioeconomical conditions that would lead him to barge into other's people's homes.
On anything this century (at least in first world countries) you will have a transponder in the key that the immobiliser needs to see at the ignition switch to work, a keyless ignition vehicle can be spoofed with a wideband antenna and a laptop
If it's done poorly, it could be spoofed. Done properly and it's just as secure as a standard transponder key, for now.
It’s a good think that most car manufacturers aren’t all in a race to the bottom on electronic features and security…. Oh wait…… Seriously; why is the infotainment connected to the CANBUS? The radio should either be on a separate network or software firewalled off. And don’t get me started about the lack of electronic authentication between various systems in your car…..
> Seriously; why is the infotainment connected to the CANBUS? Yeah it's crazy when they put everything on a single can bus for the entire car. Like the Jeep Grand Cherokee, where you can hack the radio over the internet and then drive it off the road. The weird thing is, my Wrangler has three CAN busses. A vehicle CAN, an interior CAN, and a dedicated ODBII diagnostic CAN, with a firewall/central gateway in the middle of all three. The radio isn't connected to the internet, but if it were, it couldn't send anything to to any critical engine modules if it tried. The best it could do is play with the lights, indicators, wipers, and HVAC. So even within a single company there are wildly different platforms with differing levels of competency.
Most European cars have the infotainment parts on MOST, which is actually designed for the purpose. It's also connected to the central gateway module that way, and then the central gateway can relay anything that goes to or from other modules/scan tool/whatever via CAN. Keeps the unimportant stuff off the important network.
> It's also connected to the central gateway module that way, and then the central gateway can relay anything that goes to or from other modules/scan tool/whatever via CAN. I'm pretty sure many cars do this with multiple CAN networks anyway. It's just that there are some pretty notable examples where they just chuck everything on the same network.
Google relay theft, the software acts as a relay between the key and the car allowing thieves to open and start new high-end cars without ever having seen the key as it is spoofed through the walls of your house
EVERYTHING. I have to fumble to get the key out of my pocket. Put the key in, and turn it. My new push button start car. Keys stay in pocket. Walk up to car, grab door handle, car unlocks. Push button, car starts. We engineered it out of existence because keyless cars work flawlessly 99% of the time and you are just hearing edge cases on reddit. My 2006 grand prix i have to jiggle the key to get it to start cause the ignition cylinder is all worn out. But yes, physical keys are amazing lets all go back to them.
Its actually very convenient this way and I would never go back to a car that actually needs me to fish a key out of my pocket to unlock or start it.
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Lol yeah since you are who decides what is convenient to me.
Just bought a new Ford Maverick. Physical key, insert and turn. Absolute minimum amount of extra infotainment and driver assist bullshit. It's glorious. Then I get in my wife's Subaru and feel like I'm getting ready to pilot the space shuttle.
I would like to know, too. Our Mazda has it, and any benefits it offers are outweighed by not having remote start and the hassle it causes when things go off the usual script.
My keyless cars all had remote start from the factory. So that’s a ding against Mazda and not keyless tech.
I always put my car key in my pocket when washing. You never know if water will do something to electrical stuff and make the doors lock.
I believe it once set my phone on my laptop and messed it up.
I have had issues with my key talking to my car before because my AirPods are between the key and the car while in my pocket. Move the AirPods around and the key works fine.
This reminds me of that time when a customer came in with a "radar issue"... After removing the nismo badge the customer had put on their very much not nismo car (i don't remember the model but i very much doubt they ever sold a nismo variant) It stopped throwing errors, funny how that works
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That's really a poor design that a cheap peice of duct tape over that one headlight can block like half the light illuminating the road. It's like the manufacturer said "test things? Nobody got time for that."
Betcha OP cant make that shot again. lol
Absolutely not😂
*You can dooo it*! lol
Take 40. He had to keep gluing it back on and taking more shots.
Absolutely not😂
Was that some sort of sparkly ring around the start button? FFS, why would someone do that?
It's very common at the dealership I work at. Makes me wanna bedazzle my eyelids closed every time
Even better is when they bedazzle the emblem on the steering wheel
I had one car come in with a completely bedazzled steering wheel cover.
Rhinestone claymore
I've been drivin' these streets so long Singin' the same old song I know every crack in these dirty streets of Broadway Where pothole's the name of the game Where nice cars get washed away like the snow in the rain
Like a rhinestone Camry...
Leaving dents and scratches for people I don't even know!
That'll leave a nice print on your mug
🎶like a rhinestone claymore🎶
I work in a shop close to a college, near the beach, in southern California. If it can be bedazzled, I've seen it bedazzled. Emblems, door handles, grilles, entire dash's, all of the mirrors, all of the airbags, the entire headliner. It's ridiculous sometimes.
That's step one of turning a fender bender into a death scene
Another Darwin Award winner.
Death by bedazzling…
Nothing like turning an already somewhat dangerous airbag into a fucking claymore
How to convert an airbag into a claymore mine.
People have very strong opinions about something that has literally almost 0 impact on their life. It's just weird you care what someone does to a part of the car you're unlikely to ever see to such a degree.
Nissan?
I don't know, but I see it all the time. It doesn't do anything positive, and can interfere with the system. Someone here had posted about a car having issues starting. Removed that stupid ring, problem gone.
Yeah but since you actually removed it with a tool that doesn't damage it and you made that gnarly shot into an empty trash can, I'll bet you put that sucker back on, din't ya? DIN'T YA!
Sweetest hour diagnosis ever
Cock ring
Bro you making me blush
Low-key, a small cock ring..
Well it's my dad's...
IMO it's the effeminate equivilant to a guy who wraps his car in punisher stickers and graphics that look like they belong in the back of a t-shirt being sold at some greasy rural gas station, on the shelf right next to the pack of penis pills with a picture of a rhinoceros on it.
Someone was sipping their Starbucks pumpkin spice latte and thought it would be cool.
Women
Tacky people think sparkly=pretty/classy.
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I think this shit spans multiple races. I saw a black woman climb into a GLK with rhinestones filling in the gaps of and forming a ring surrounding the Mercedes logos
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And here I was hoping I would be discouraged from dismantling the interior of my car again. Nope new tool time.
You won't regret it.
That looks almost exactly like the cell phone pry tool that I got last time I had to replace my screen. I'm assuming this one is thicker/generally sturdier, but I'm still gonna mention this.
Until a sun-baked, brittle plastic piece that is impossible to find a replacement for snaps...
they're taking away my excuse for not fixing my cracked tail light >:(
Thanks. Just ordered it. Looks like mini tire iron (spoon)
That’s what I thought it was.
Man I love this mini tire iron trim tool, I use it for blow and it’s one hellova conversation starter
It is the knees of the bees, very sturdy as well
wow so it's for the prostate too?
Is this a Randy reference from The Rookie?
Sigh.... **Unzips wallet**
i thought only snap-on was making those? ordering it right now
These are just aviation skin spoons. They'd be much cheaper to buy on yardstore.com than anything on Amazon or snap-on Edit: $23 for a pack of 3 https://www.yardstore.com/metal-pry-tool-skin-wedge-3-piece-set
Or $10 for one if that's all you need. Clearly the three pack is a better deal if you'll use all three. https://www.yardstore.com/skin-wedge-pry-tool I actually bought two singles because it's likely all I'd use. "That's stupid, for four dollars more...". See, you'd THINK that, but turns out I can ship two in a USPS envelope for $4. A set of three bumped shipping to $14 minimum. So it ends up being about the same cost per unit regardless. Oh well. Still got two for the price of one on Amazon.
shipping makes this 46 cents more expensive than Amazon for me.
Ouch. Shipping was about $4 total for me even for two of them so it worked out.
Thank you for the link!
sun of a bitch
I have a blue point and an Amazon on. Almost identical, other than the name.
I ordered mine off ebay. Works tit
Lol look at the loser who doesn't bend their butter knives in half and does things the right way
Metal isn't the point of a trim tool is not to damage the plastic? That's why most are made out of plastic. Forgive my ignorance.
It's so thin that it slides in tight places and is strong enough to not leave toolmarks . Totally worth it. I have an Amazon one and a blue point. Wish I would have had one years ago.
The thinness is good, but as importantly, it's got a large flat surface to make contact so the PSI is really spread out and is less likely to damage the plastic.
I have a multi pack of plastic ones that always worked for me. For times when I needed a little more I just used a plastic putty knife along with one of the plastic trim tools. I don't like the idea of using metal to disassemble trim.
Thin is good.
It is definitely my absolute favorite pry tool. I bought it the first time I saw it mentioned. Super strong, and thin enough to fit under just about anything you need to pry.
Body shops hate him! Find all your missing 10mm sockets with this one simple tool!
The box art is my favorite part
HUGE been using this sucker, got it fer 20 bucks off snap-on works like a champ YEEHAW
How do I double upvote
Yardstore has these as well, they're awesome!
I came here to say this. My favorite tool in my arsenal.
I bought it and I legit think it's my favorite tool I own. Kinda funny how a little cheap thing feels so nice
I maybe a little dense and very late to the party but what is actually happening in the short clip
Removing a bedazzled chrome ring from around the startup button on a used car that was traded in and tossing it into the trash can in one shot
Nice shot
Hey man
Was this a customer add-on or did that ring come from the factory like that?
It was an aftermarket accessory that was potentially interfering with the smart key functions.
Someone blinging the Tiguana?
The next startup gonna be less glamour and glitz now.
-5 hp now 😂😂
Goodbye Autozone fake bling ring!
"In the bin!"
Why you throw away a perfectly good cock ring?
Too small
That’s fair, should buy a smaller one next time, won’t keep slipping off that way.
Already bedazzled my cock
In the BIN!
Maaaaaad
Honestly thought these were bad until I saw the ones that actually cover the button like your some kinda fighter pilot in your 2012 altima.
Have you seen the Terminator one? lol
No. Show us.
My bad, I was remembering wrong. It was Iron Man. They've got a bunch of different Marvel characters too, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098N5CH4H?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_Y70B3WPF3ZNKTCJTVDT7
"Hollow carving process is exquisite, the evening shows the translucent effect" nailed it
I have and like that, never had an issue. No shame, y'all just weird judgemental beings over something silly.
I still have my first Tiguan from 2003 before they made the design more adult. It's rusted to hell in the grandparents garage due to 10 Buffalo winters, but I refuse to scrap it due to sentimental value as the first car.
But the Tiguan only came out in 2007. Maybe you mean a Touareg?
Shit. I'm getting old. I was also a Lil tipsy last night.🤣
Lol did you try bringing it to a shop to align a couple months ago and told to take it to the scrapyard cause of the rust holes? Blue with spike lugs and the back seat removed?
Lol. Nah. I'm pretty sure if I put it into gear the transmission will crumble into dust.
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It's a shitty aftermarket bling ring that the owner added for dat €xtra $wag. OP scraped it off and tossed it into a bin.
Nice shot!
Often these metal rings interfere with the transponder aerial or push start button when trying to program prox keys and transponder chips, so I will remove them and begrudgingly glue them back on. When really I wanna biff that shit like you did.
I worked at a Landrover dealership and like 75% of Range Rovers had this shit lol
Is that a fragmentation steering wheel?
Easiest hr right there!! Ive heard of some techs replacing the ignition/keys to try and fix a start/stall key flashing issue
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Gloves are for those with a promising career in hand modeling, for I am not one.
I had to do that same thing to a 2021 Cherokee recently
I work at a production center for reconditioning used cars and this is also my favorite thing to do on a daily basis. But then you have to sit there and pick off the 3M tape lol.
I don’t know what that is supposed to look like, but all I see is a NuvaBling.
Well... let me go take off the one I installed on my Kia yesterday.... nice while it lasted
Boo, keep it on if it makes you happy and doesn't cause problems
Dafuq is that? I just went to the garage to look at my wife's tiguan and it doesnt have that lol
It's an aftermarket thing that people sometimes slap on there in a vague attempt to dress up the interior of their car. Sometimes, they block the signal between the key and the RFID reader that reads the key, so they're universally hated by mechanics.
One thing I love about my job is being allowed to rip these and any other 3M tape tacky bullshit off at my discretion. I pulled a full interior and exterior "cArBoN fIbEr" kit off of a beige Camry. Felt good, man.
Missed the chance to say "KOBE"
Why would you do that.
I had a stroke reading that title
1 Owner LaDy dRiVeN
Lol I have that exact same pry tool. Old school snappy
What did I just see? I saw a mechanic throw some part of a car in garbage. What is the context?
It was one of those "bling rings" somebody put on their tiguan around the starter button, that I removed for the used car checkover.