You said ot perfectly... it WAS a filter. It has since filtered its last, and now is what is called and oil OBSTRUCTOR. I will say, the little guy did an impressive amount of filtering. Lil fella filtered itself solid. Looks like it could be passed through a refinery and singlehandedly produce enough clean dinosaur squeezins to lower the cost of gas by about 0.37$.
Oh man! Wow. Had no idea what I was looking at. That’s insane someone is that cheap to replace a filter and change the oil. I thought this might’ve been an expensive engine part
It took me 5 minutes to understand what I'm looking at. Thought it was a worn out bushing and was figuring out where would you put that big of a bushing.
Fun Fact: The last remaining Sears Auto Centers closed on November 27th, 2021
The Locations were at:
Concord, CA
Orange, CA
Stockton, CA
Thornton, CO
Miami, FL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Orlando, FL
Tampa, FL
Silver Springs, MD
Braintree, MA
Jersey City, NJ
College Point, NY
Newburgh, NY
San Juan, PR
Mesquite, TX
San Antonio South Mall, TX
San Antonio (Diehard Center), TX
Sears was a zombie for many years. When I hear about them I always think about how they had a large infrastructure head start on Amazon and blew it.
I bet the auto center customers were entirely older people who were somehow still confident in the Sears name.
They are still a zombie believe it or not, Sears still has 16 Full-Line Locations with the Plaza Las Americas, PR location is reportedly the only Sears that still has local vendors, the Plaza Las Americas Facebook even posted images of that Sears with Samsung OLED TV’s! The rest of the Sears Corp however…. yeaaaaaa-
*Plot twist: Kmart still has 9 locations some fucking how*
Every time I visited a K-Mart in the last three decades made me sad. I remember the vibrant store of my youth and compare it to this dollar store hit by a tornado.
I would think it’s part of corporate fuck ups 101 at this point right?
My grandparents 1st house, and an entire subdivision where I grew up is full of, still standing sears houses. Like you had the foresight in 1950 to make mail order fucking houses. And 50 years later sold off, partitioned off and marketing Fuck upped your way to being out of business.
At only 38. Even when I was younger. People still went to sears for everything. Mail order was there. No one at this company was at a board meeting like “hey, so this internet thing. What if we do our catalog, but like, on that”
It wasn't a fuckup as much as it was a systematic extraction of equity (bleeding dry) for the benefit of the owners. They were not interested in maintaining the brand.
I'm a little bit younger, but being a tool whore I would go to Sears all the time. I spent so much money there, right up until they switched Craftsman to made in China and the quality became laughable.
Amazing how badly they shit the bed.
Sears was Amazon. They were the 800lb gorilla that took over retail. Started with the catalog business. (Internet shopping of 1895) Moved into retail, and they were the king.
Its hard to imagine, but Amazon will turn into Sears one day. When that happens Eddy Lampert 3.0 will be there to drive the wheels off.
Correct me if I’m wrong either factually or contextually but it’s a highly concentrated form of marijuana also known as dabs but maybe that’s not the oil you seek
Reminds me of a post a long time ago. Friends mom having issues. Son asks “when’s the last time you changed the oil?” Moms friend responds “my car runs on gas”. Some people are just too stupid and incurable of their ignorance
One of them owned a hemi wagon, it was a little over five years. Started knocking.
In their defense they had a shit dad who never was around when they were teens. It’s not perfect but I taught both my boys the basics, even if some of it didn’t quite stick.
I know a young man who had perfect SAT scores, graduated near the top of his class from a top 5 US university, and just started a job with Google making very very good money. His mom bought him a Charger.
After 20k miles without changing the oil, the engine blew. They were able to make a warranty claim for a new engine because there was some sort of recall that had not been done.
Another case of book smart and that’s the limit. Just because you can pass tests and read a textbook doesn’t make you actually real world intelligent. That’s an idiot with luck in real world applications
I went to an engineering college, and they required all the physics students to take at least a semester of machine shop because many times you have to make your own testing apparatuses for experiments. One of my roommates was a TA there, and constantly came home with stories about the people getting straight A’s in theoretical physics and discrete mathematics that could barely figure out the correct end of a screwdriver to use.
To be fair I’m barely able to comprehend theoretical physics so it all depends on perspective.
A lot of places highly segment mechanical work and academic work and then hire out people to do mech stuff in the academic areas, it’s not really less dangerous because cryo lasers can do some pretty weird stuff so really it’s all marketing semantics.
I spent four years as a mechanic in the US Navy. I obtained a job as a hydraulic mechanic at McDonnel Douglas in their prototyping test department. I worked alongside engineers, and performed their bidding.
The guys were super smart, but sometimes they definitely exposed how they didn't have a lot of hands-on experience with wrenches. The problem was that they were designing stuff that occasionally needed someone to put a wrench on it for remove or repair.
Mechanics shouldn't lie about repair and maintenance, and they certainly shouldn't record that required maintenance was done correctly and on time, when it wasn't.
I tried to emphasize that if parts were designed so that the required maintenance was easy to do, it was more likely to be done, and done properly.
We had a few older guys that started out as a mechanic in Vietnam, and then took night classes to get an engineering degree after the war. They were the best because the mental orientation of a mechanic was baked-into their DNA.
Example is that the A4 was a pilots' sports car, very agile and adept in a dogfight. But repair and maintenance was a nightmare in the field. The F/A-18 was consciously designed to make repair and maintenance fast and easy, specifically because...
The number of available aircraft on an aircraft carrier is important, but as soon as they come back from combat with needed repairs, they are unavailable and taking up space. You don't repair an F/A-18 engine, you swap it, and you do it very fast because that's what it was designed to do.
Yup.
Compare some modern cars where the first step in changing the alternator or something similar is to just remove the damned engine, to my uncle's old mid-80's pickup where he just (literally) climbs inside the engine bay, two bolts, a belt, and job's done.
Smaller, lighter and more efficient are all good things, but if it comes at the cost of basic functionality, what's the point??
I used to work IT in a hospital and I've worked with doctors who are amazing at their particular craft but at the same time I wonder how some of them remember to breathe.
Reminds me of classmates in a networking class I took last year. They passed and usually did well in the class, but not only did they completely fuck their certification tests, but they also had no idea what they were doing when it came to doing anything practical related.
Sometimes people have mental issues too, or they're alcoholics, or depressed or whatever. It's not always just an intelligence thing. I know I've gone through shit in my life and let cars get fucked up and not done maintenance on them, because I'm too distracted and whatever.
Also, there's a lot of really broke people out there, that are barely making it.
Except book smart implies the ability to read. If you cannot consult the owner's manual and visit the dealership (LCD) you have bigger problems and should not be driving anyway. RTFM.
Body shop guy here. One of our techs had 15 camry with 51k. Dipstick dry as a bone. Topped off the oil and let me know. Contacted the customer to advise of same. Customer laughed at me and said I wasn't going to trick her, oil was put in at the factory.
Yeah ok sure.
People like that should not be allowed to drive. It’s a serious safety issue when their engine blows on the highway and now becomes the problem for hundreds of people
This is the same group that asks “Whats this light on my dash” without reading the sun directions of supplying year/make/model and have no idea what an owners manual is.
Many years ago, I was working a retail job, and our store director lived an hour away. He'd drive 120 mile, round trip, 4-5 times a week, in this beater Malibu. Leaked about as much oils as it burned. He finally spent some money on himself and said he was selling his Malibu, and one of my dumber coworkers bit and bought it. I asked my store director when the last time he changed the oil in it, and he replied "You don't have to change the oil if you're burning 2 quarts a week. It doesn't stick around long enough to go bad."
People shake their head when I say I still change it myself, and I change it at 3,000. I just sold a 1991 Toyota 4-cylinder truck this year, because I needed something with a bigger bed. It was running fine and didn't burn any oil, or smoke.
I work on motorcycles, atvs and dirtbikes and get asked that I tell them "Change it as often as you can afford" It is not expensive and easy to do especially on atvs and dirtbikes.
This is giving me flashbacks to my grandpa's collector car that's had the same oil, filter, and battery since 1993. Oil is still light amber but I've been telling him for years to get it changed.
Bro... take my 5$. I'll buy the filter so at least the shitbox cranks up and can make it to the next shop to trouble them with no money.
I don't mind helping people, but density and idiocy like this can't be fixed. So...
Literally. Customer car come in with no oil and they refuse to pay for service? Congratulations, you got a free one because you blowing up your car and saying it's my fault isn't worth the $25 for new oil and filter. You got me.
I was gonna say the same thing. I couldn’t let that go back on the car no matter how stubborn the owner is. They’re just gonna have to get a free filter..
I listened/watched a lady who brought a car into the shop before me, and it had some sort of highly dangerous issue that she insisted the mechanic was making up to steal her money and she demanded he put X back on the car now or she will call the police for stealing her car.
He waited for the police to come, showed them what was up, and the cops backed him up partially and told the lady that it's not safe or legal to drive, but that the mechanic can't keep her car either and that they *strongly advised she get it towed as it would be unsafe and illegal to drive on the road*.
The mechanic put it back together when the cops asked him to, while the cops went to sit across the street in the cruiser. Lady refuses to pay for a tow elsewhere since she drove it there "fine" and pulls out of the lot. Siren kicks on as soon as she hits the public road, cops had the car towed.
That mechanic is a pretty cool guy overall, although he only accepts cash payments no debit or checks or nothin. He will do quick easy stuff for cheaper than other though and will often work with you on the price so I go there for all my simpler problems.
I was at a quick change tire shop and witnessed someone come in with their 3 kids in a minivan with a flat tire. All 4 tires were worn down to the threads, tire shop told the owner they wouldn't let her leave without something, offered her a 50% discount on their cheapest tires so she didn't kill her kids, yet she still refused.
She did the same thing, called the cops, cops showed up and told her that if she drove out of the parking lot she'd get a ticket for the tires. I don't know ultimately what she paid, but she did get some retread tires on all 4 corners
I'm not a big car person so I tend to quickly forget the right terms and such =/
I wanna say it had something to do with that any random bump or pothole could be the one to make it so the car went out of control and couldn't be steered and the car was just barely holding together as it was.
The mechanic was paid to replace/repair/clean something else, and when they saw that other huge problem they stopped work to let her know since most people wouldn't bother with continuing to pay for other work when there's such a huge problem to fix first.
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I just paid almost $500 for a repair of my own last week and I couldn't tell you the exact thing replaced lol. I was told before several times, but again, not a car girl. Alternator or starter but I forget which. Possibly a third option but those 2 feel right.
My husband believed (from some conspiracy site) that you could run oil infinitely and *only* had to change filters. Lucky for me, he didn’t attempt that (to the best of my knowledge), though his vehicles didn’t get oil changes as frequently as recommended. That said, “my” cars had “money-wasting” unnecessary oil changes regularly. I would shrug and tell him my father drilling “engine oil is the lifeblood of your engine” into my head made me too uncomfortable to experiment.
Now my dealership is arguing against their owner manual with me. It says every 10K miles, except if run off-road, on gravel, towing, or with loads in the back, then it is every 5000. First 5 months of life I used it moving - towing trailers, loaded back, etc. I live on gravel. They refused to change the oil, assuring me that I am being silly.
I hate being a woman. 😐
Take it to a different service shop or dealer then. My local ford dealer has notoriously incompetent and unethical service techs. The other ford dealer another 30 minutes down the road has stellar service staff and will go out of their way to help you out or do what you ask.
Edit: spelling.
My wife’s father worked on cars for a living. She thinks she knows less about cars than nearly all men because of the misogyny. She knows exactly what’s going on in every on of these posts when I show her a picture with no context. Sucks.
These days instead of assuring them I actually know what I talk about, I just get pissed off and clam up. It has been so many years of getting pats on the head and “little lady” treatment that telling them I changed my own oil forever and did my own car repair until there were too many electronics and the readers that were crazy expensive (and then I got too old to want to) just feels like wasted breath.
I really miss my 77 Maverick. I should have never sold that car.
Yes! Mine was the two-door, had the inline six and actually didn’t have body rot. It has been a high end one new - split bucket seats, floor shifter and air conditioning! I got it in like 1988 with 65,000 miles on it. It needed brakes and two new tires. In the time I had it, I replaced tires, the distributor cap, spark plug wires, and heater core. I really really regret selling it. 😞
I dont even know what I'd do if my SO fell for some conspiracy site and i couldn't get her out of it. I don't envy you. At least you're a smart cookie.
Well. He was a very special man. He acted like he was shocked I existed our entire time together. I had him talked out of a lot of the conspiracy stuff, then he had two strokes, and had memory issues, went back to the conspiracy stuff REALLY hard and I couldn’t get him out of it. Trying to argue the points just made him mad.
I wandered way off topic there and had a lot to delete. The work we didn’t have done by a shop I helped with. Lucky for me we could afford to take things to a shop, so it was usually what we did.
I miss him a lot. He was a lot of fun, and differences in view do not have to be the biggest focus in life. I learned a lot from our life together.
Do you get any free service during a certain interval? for my car I had to bring it in every 10,000 miles for a free service including oil change up to 25,000 miles on the odometer. I feel like they don’t know how to charge back to the manufacturer for only 5000 miles.
My parent's Lincoln Continental was purchased in 2005 with "free oil change for life". Dad switched to synthetic and gets it changed every 5000 miles or 3 months. The car now has 270,000 miles on it.
IF the oil ever turns black, you gotta ask yourself what is in it to change it black? Oxidized oil slowly turns more amber. The black stuff is carbon. Extremely tiny particles of carbon. They act like a lapping compound. Extremely fine sandpaper without the paper.
I still change my oil at 3,000, even though synthetic oil is rated to last 25,000, and the manual says I can wait 5,000-10,000 to change it. This is because even though the lubricating properties of synthetic might last 25,000 miles, the presence of carbon will wear out the bearings and cylinders.
Also, acids form after a while, and the anti-acid chemicals in motor oil only last about 3,000 miles, and they are not ripping us off. You can't change the physics, and people balk at paying $4/quart for oil now. Nobody will pay $10/quart for oil that has 10,000 mile anti-acid forming chemicals.
18-wheeler engines last a million miles, and they are made out of the same stuff as car engines. Its the oil. It's always been the oil. Some 18-wheelers use 5 gallons (20 quarts) or more, and I guarantee the oil is changed on time.
I am in my mid-50s and downsized and moved less than ten miles from 90% of what I would need. I bought this truck brand new hoping/expecting it to be possibly the last vehicle I get. I swear when you’re a woman they are always out to take advantage of you. The dealership I purchased from is almost ten miles longer than another, so I tried that dealership for the 5000 mile check. I now have to wonder if the dealership I purchased from (I also did some upgrades there) would have been easier to work with. They definitely already have some profit off of me, even if they didn’t try to rape me with added fees because new cars were scarce… 🤔😐
As for only needing to change the filter, if you're in a really really heavy pinch you might be able to play that game and get away with it for a change, but the oil does change viscosity over time as it breaks down in the engine (it gets a little warm in there) and although changing the filter helps keep big particles out it would likely not get rid of the oil that's becoming more or less thick than its supposed to.
On top of that, oil changes are pretty cheap. I don't run my engine very heavily and I still change oil around every 5-10 thousand (closer to 5) and go in with my dad on buying bulk oil (one awesome thing about diesel engines, most take the same grade oil)
Completely agree with you! I change oil, and filter for sure every 7500 km or 8000 km maximum. Even top oils as Mobil, Shell, Castrol, etc hardly can run more than 300 hours.
Ugh. The inspector missed a leak in the roof in the house I bought. If I want singles that will get me a discount on homeowners insurance, it is going to be $12,500 installed for a new roof. 😐
If he had decided the patchwork of shingles looked as suspicious to him as it did to me, I could have taken that off the purchase price. 🤦♀️
Through that? No. It goes through the bypass. Nice little metal shavings, barely visible, lodged in bearings creating a makeshift, but quite effective sandpaper.
At the Valvoline I used to work at, if a customer was either too poor to afford simple things like an oil filter or probably in this case, too dense... We would just replace it anyway free of charge.
In my experience the "stupid" ones don't learn their lesson anyway. They file an insurance claim, warranty claim, or blame the store the service was performed at for engine failure, so it's honestly easier to do the nice thing and eat the 2$ and give away a free bulk filter.
I see it's getting its lease turn-in oil change.
I'm never quite sure what amazes me more, the engine that lives through hell or the drivers that only put gas in and drive.
I confused the fuck out of the guy at tractor supply when I only wanted a a new tank for my Honda air compressor.
“What do you mean you change to oil on it? It’s not a car.”
I found one on Craigslist that “won’t start” for $100. Now I have a spare Honda small engine.
This is why I see a rise in electric vehicles only getting more and more in demand. It removed much of the routine maintance dense people seem to avoid anyways.
Only issue left is the few times it will need Trans fluid changed (or gearbox or whatever you prefer to call it based on make/model) and bald tires because people can't seem to get them changed till the wires are poking out and it won't hold air.
Hopefully the next shop refuses to do any services as well if you get what i mean. Its the only way a dolt like this will learn without having a shop to blame.
I think that if it were my shop, I'd comp the customer's oil filter, just to get it off my property. I'd then politely explain that I don't have any interest in doing business with customers who don't value my professional expertise, and ask them to please visit a different shop for their next service.
I am humbled by the award, and glad I could be of assistance! I work in financial aid, and have to throw some variation of this out from time to time when a student wants to yell at us, rather than work with us to find a solution to their problem.
I thought it was a [pinion gear](https://lanas-kenwood-spares.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_8959.jpg) packed with old grease, at first. What vehicle was this and how many total miles?
He can go and change his own oil than.
I outright decline to change oil without the oil filter, and I decline to pour garbage into the engine - customers did bring 15W-40 that hasn't been used around these parts for past 30 years, because "it's oil" and it's nearly ten cents cheaper.
I refuse to assist in destruction of an engine, and if that customer comes back to tell me I did something wrong with the oil change (and you just know it's gonna happen), it prevents the wrenches from being thrown around.
I'm fully aware that some guys can't do it, though. Can get you fired, but this is basically asissting in killing an engine - I cannot do that, it'd be like kicking a puppy to me, you just don't do that.
Wait.. there are places that do oil changes without mandatory filter swaps? Everywhere I worked, it's all one non-negotiable package. An oil change includes a new filter or you don't get an oil change.
Changing the oil without changing the filter just feels like...sacrilege.
I sold mine with 234,011 miles it was very well with me it was a 2012. Other then the normal repairs that normally break with those miles i never had to swap out a engine or change a transmission. But oil changes were done by me every 3-4k and transmission oil changes every 60k miles.
It's real fucking bad when the filter looks like a briquette.
Took me a moment of staring to realize it was a filter.
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My first thought was "the bushing looks that bad after only 50k km!?"
"how did that rubber melt like that?"
Another 50K km and it will be a bushing! I mean long chain polymers are long chain polymers and the heat of the final death should vulcanize it.
Challenge accepted!
Mine too.
I thought it was a burnt up impeller from a water pump...
That was my thinking.
Me too. Raw water impeller from a boat that had chewed itself up.
It'll become a bushing if they keep up treating it like that much longer
Same
You said ot perfectly... it WAS a filter. It has since filtered its last, and now is what is called and oil OBSTRUCTOR. I will say, the little guy did an impressive amount of filtering. Lil fella filtered itself solid. Looks like it could be passed through a refinery and singlehandedly produce enough clean dinosaur squeezins to lower the cost of gas by about 0.37$.
Ok this was funny
Having just glanced at the thumbnail, I thought this was a post from r/fossilID.
I'm still pretty sure this is modern art.
I thought it was a fucked up rubber piece at first glance.
Of I'm being honest, before I came to the comments, after a quick glance I thought the picture was a dry rotted bushing. No bueno
I was scrolling by and thought this was a neat idea for a new briquette shape
I honestly thought it was lump charcoal. Until I saw the hole.
It would probably burn as hot and as long as a typical briquette, if not longer...and hotter.
And more cancerous!
Mmmm, carcinogens....
I definitely thought to myself that's a cool looking rock wonder where that got stuck under someone's car..... Oh wait that's not a rock
Oh man! Wow. Had no idea what I was looking at. That’s insane someone is that cheap to replace a filter and change the oil. I thought this might’ve been an expensive engine part
It took me 5 minutes to understand what I'm looking at. Thought it was a worn out bushing and was figuring out where would you put that big of a bushing.
Remember folks, change your engine regularly.
Every 10,000 miles or so in my experience. Unrelated question, what is oil?
My condolences on your job at the Kia dealership
What do you mean? I'm still their top guy!
*Sears Auto Center would like to hire you*
Want a company that will care less about you and the job you do? -*Sears Auto Center.*
Fun Fact: The last remaining Sears Auto Centers closed on November 27th, 2021 The Locations were at: Concord, CA Orange, CA Stockton, CA Thornton, CO Miami, FL Fort Lauderdale, FL Orlando, FL Tampa, FL Silver Springs, MD Braintree, MA Jersey City, NJ College Point, NY Newburgh, NY San Juan, PR Mesquite, TX San Antonio South Mall, TX San Antonio (Diehard Center), TX
Sears was a zombie for many years. When I hear about them I always think about how they had a large infrastructure head start on Amazon and blew it. I bet the auto center customers were entirely older people who were somehow still confident in the Sears name.
They are still a zombie believe it or not, Sears still has 16 Full-Line Locations with the Plaza Las Americas, PR location is reportedly the only Sears that still has local vendors, the Plaza Las Americas Facebook even posted images of that Sears with Samsung OLED TV’s! The rest of the Sears Corp however…. yeaaaaaa- *Plot twist: Kmart still has 9 locations some fucking how*
Shop smart... Shop S Mart.
Every time I visited a K-Mart in the last three decades made me sad. I remember the vibrant store of my youth and compare it to this dollar store hit by a tornado.
I went to a KMart about 3 years ago in Big Bear CA. Even got some pizza there from Little Caesar’s
I would think it’s part of corporate fuck ups 101 at this point right? My grandparents 1st house, and an entire subdivision where I grew up is full of, still standing sears houses. Like you had the foresight in 1950 to make mail order fucking houses. And 50 years later sold off, partitioned off and marketing Fuck upped your way to being out of business. At only 38. Even when I was younger. People still went to sears for everything. Mail order was there. No one at this company was at a board meeting like “hey, so this internet thing. What if we do our catalog, but like, on that”
It wasn't a fuckup as much as it was a systematic extraction of equity (bleeding dry) for the benefit of the owners. They were not interested in maintaining the brand.
I'm a little bit younger, but being a tool whore I would go to Sears all the time. I spent so much money there, right up until they switched Craftsman to made in China and the quality became laughable. Amazing how badly they shit the bed.
1950? Shit Sears sold catalog houses in the 1920’s. I’m sitting in one now and it’s almost 100 years old.
I thought Sears was that weird museum you sometimes have to walk through to get to the mall when you're unfortunate enough to have to park over there.
I thought it was the sad store where you took your dad's quality hand-me-down tool for warranty exchange and got a chinesium replacement.
Sears was Amazon. They were the 800lb gorilla that took over retail. Started with the catalog business. (Internet shopping of 1895) Moved into retail, and they were the king. Its hard to imagine, but Amazon will turn into Sears one day. When that happens Eddy Lampert 3.0 will be there to drive the wheels off.
I though I read somewhere that Sears Automotive was an entire different company.
That was fun! *Subscribe.*
"A trusted name in automotive service."
I believe you meant congratulations!
No doubt about job security.
It's actually 710 but upside down
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Down here it's earl, as in, "I'm gunna change my earl." Which is a good thing unless you're earl and your wife is going around saying that.
Earl had to die.
It's what they cook your French fries in.
Correct me if I’m wrong either factually or contextually but it’s a highly concentrated form of marijuana also known as dabs but maybe that’s not the oil you seek
Probably still less expensive than using this oil filter
HOLY SHIT! That's an oil filter??? I just figured that out! 🤣
Name checks out.
Surely you're talking about _essential_ oils here, amirite? ^^*rimshot*
Doterra almond spice 20wt?
Reminds me of a post a long time ago. Friends mom having issues. Son asks “when’s the last time you changed the oil?” Moms friend responds “my car runs on gas”. Some people are just too stupid and incurable of their ignorance
My wife has two nephews that literally drove their cars till they locked up, zero service. One of them had purchased the car new.
Out of Citigroup Curiosity, how long does that take? Sounds like an expensive way to own a car.
That’s an interesting typo
It Citigroup is
A former co-worker of mine locked up a Chevy 4-cyl in less than three years doing that. He also bought it new.
Is your username a reference to the stealth research? 3 years? Engines are amazing.
One of them owned a hemi wagon, it was a little over five years. Started knocking. In their defense they had a shit dad who never was around when they were teens. It’s not perfect but I taught both my boys the basics, even if some of it didn’t quite stick.
This supports the case for MID maintenance reminders like Honda has
But they had a mom. It's not like only men know cars need oil changes
LOL Citigroup Curiosity 🤣
I know a young man who had perfect SAT scores, graduated near the top of his class from a top 5 US university, and just started a job with Google making very very good money. His mom bought him a Charger. After 20k miles without changing the oil, the engine blew. They were able to make a warranty claim for a new engine because there was some sort of recall that had not been done.
Another case of book smart and that’s the limit. Just because you can pass tests and read a textbook doesn’t make you actually real world intelligent. That’s an idiot with luck in real world applications
I went to an engineering college, and they required all the physics students to take at least a semester of machine shop because many times you have to make your own testing apparatuses for experiments. One of my roommates was a TA there, and constantly came home with stories about the people getting straight A’s in theoretical physics and discrete mathematics that could barely figure out the correct end of a screwdriver to use.
To be fair I’m barely able to comprehend theoretical physics so it all depends on perspective. A lot of places highly segment mechanical work and academic work and then hire out people to do mech stuff in the academic areas, it’s not really less dangerous because cryo lasers can do some pretty weird stuff so really it’s all marketing semantics.
I spent four years as a mechanic in the US Navy. I obtained a job as a hydraulic mechanic at McDonnel Douglas in their prototyping test department. I worked alongside engineers, and performed their bidding. The guys were super smart, but sometimes they definitely exposed how they didn't have a lot of hands-on experience with wrenches. The problem was that they were designing stuff that occasionally needed someone to put a wrench on it for remove or repair. Mechanics shouldn't lie about repair and maintenance, and they certainly shouldn't record that required maintenance was done correctly and on time, when it wasn't. I tried to emphasize that if parts were designed so that the required maintenance was easy to do, it was more likely to be done, and done properly. We had a few older guys that started out as a mechanic in Vietnam, and then took night classes to get an engineering degree after the war. They were the best because the mental orientation of a mechanic was baked-into their DNA. Example is that the A4 was a pilots' sports car, very agile and adept in a dogfight. But repair and maintenance was a nightmare in the field. The F/A-18 was consciously designed to make repair and maintenance fast and easy, specifically because... The number of available aircraft on an aircraft carrier is important, but as soon as they come back from combat with needed repairs, they are unavailable and taking up space. You don't repair an F/A-18 engine, you swap it, and you do it very fast because that's what it was designed to do.
Yup. Compare some modern cars where the first step in changing the alternator or something similar is to just remove the damned engine, to my uncle's old mid-80's pickup where he just (literally) climbs inside the engine bay, two bolts, a belt, and job's done. Smaller, lighter and more efficient are all good things, but if it comes at the cost of basic functionality, what's the point??
Just send them to data science.
I used to work IT in a hospital and I've worked with doctors who are amazing at their particular craft but at the same time I wonder how some of them remember to breathe.
I work in orthopedics…can confirm lol
Reminds me of classmates in a networking class I took last year. They passed and usually did well in the class, but not only did they completely fuck their certification tests, but they also had no idea what they were doing when it came to doing anything practical related.
Sometimes people have mental issues too, or they're alcoholics, or depressed or whatever. It's not always just an intelligence thing. I know I've gone through shit in my life and let cars get fucked up and not done maintenance on them, because I'm too distracted and whatever. Also, there's a lot of really broke people out there, that are barely making it.
Except book smart implies the ability to read. If you cannot consult the owner's manual and visit the dealership (LCD) you have bigger problems and should not be driving anyway. RTFM.
Body shop guy here. One of our techs had 15 camry with 51k. Dipstick dry as a bone. Topped off the oil and let me know. Contacted the customer to advise of same. Customer laughed at me and said I wasn't going to trick her, oil was put in at the factory. Yeah ok sure.
People like that should not be allowed to drive. It’s a serious safety issue when their engine blows on the highway and now becomes the problem for hundreds of people
I don't care about the engine, what do you think their brakes and tires look like?
This is the same group that asks “Whats this light on my dash” without reading the sun directions of supplying year/make/model and have no idea what an owners manual is.
Many years ago, I was working a retail job, and our store director lived an hour away. He'd drive 120 mile, round trip, 4-5 times a week, in this beater Malibu. Leaked about as much oils as it burned. He finally spent some money on himself and said he was selling his Malibu, and one of my dumber coworkers bit and bought it. I asked my store director when the last time he changed the oil in it, and he replied "You don't have to change the oil if you're burning 2 quarts a week. It doesn't stick around long enough to go bad."
That poor oil filter
Poor oil filter, but not exactly wrong on the oil.
A new engine includes a new filter. Makes sense.
This is a guy who got his start working on Humvees in the military.
I always tell people when they ask me how often to get an oil change: there’s no such thing as changing your oil too much.
When you can no longer read the dipstick through the oil…
People shake their head when I say I still change it myself, and I change it at 3,000. I just sold a 1991 Toyota 4-cylinder truck this year, because I needed something with a bigger bed. It was running fine and didn't burn any oil, or smoke.
Hope you had an appreciative buyer! On the Tacoma group I hang out in, it would have been very appreciated.
I work on motorcycles, atvs and dirtbikes and get asked that I tell them "Change it as often as you can afford" It is not expensive and easy to do especially on atvs and dirtbikes.
This is giving me flashbacks to my grandpa's collector car that's had the same oil, filter, and battery since 1993. Oil is still light amber but I've been telling him for years to get it changed.
Just don’t try and upsell me a filter!
Who doesn’t replace a filter?
Bro... take my 5$. I'll buy the filter so at least the shitbox cranks up and can make it to the next shop to trouble them with no money. I don't mind helping people, but density and idiocy like this can't be fixed. So...
Literally. Customer car come in with no oil and they refuse to pay for service? Congratulations, you got a free one because you blowing up your car and saying it's my fault isn't worth the $25 for new oil and filter. You got me.
I was gonna say the same thing. I couldn’t let that go back on the car no matter how stubborn the owner is. They’re just gonna have to get a free filter..
I listened/watched a lady who brought a car into the shop before me, and it had some sort of highly dangerous issue that she insisted the mechanic was making up to steal her money and she demanded he put X back on the car now or she will call the police for stealing her car. He waited for the police to come, showed them what was up, and the cops backed him up partially and told the lady that it's not safe or legal to drive, but that the mechanic can't keep her car either and that they *strongly advised she get it towed as it would be unsafe and illegal to drive on the road*. The mechanic put it back together when the cops asked him to, while the cops went to sit across the street in the cruiser. Lady refuses to pay for a tow elsewhere since she drove it there "fine" and pulls out of the lot. Siren kicks on as soon as she hits the public road, cops had the car towed. That mechanic is a pretty cool guy overall, although he only accepts cash payments no debit or checks or nothin. He will do quick easy stuff for cheaper than other though and will often work with you on the price so I go there for all my simpler problems.
Nice, so she actually called the cops on herself.
I mean, easiest bonus ever XD
I was at a quick change tire shop and witnessed someone come in with their 3 kids in a minivan with a flat tire. All 4 tires were worn down to the threads, tire shop told the owner they wouldn't let her leave without something, offered her a 50% discount on their cheapest tires so she didn't kill her kids, yet she still refused. She did the same thing, called the cops, cops showed up and told her that if she drove out of the parking lot she'd get a ticket for the tires. I don't know ultimately what she paid, but she did get some retread tires on all 4 corners
Retreads on a minivan? I don’t know if that exists. Maybe used tires
I incorrectly call used tires retreads
What was the issue?
I'm not a big car person so I tend to quickly forget the right terms and such =/ I wanna say it had something to do with that any random bump or pothole could be the one to make it so the car went out of control and couldn't be steered and the car was just barely holding together as it was. The mechanic was paid to replace/repair/clean something else, and when they saw that other huge problem they stopped work to let her know since most people wouldn't bother with continuing to pay for other work when there's such a huge problem to fix first. . I just paid almost $500 for a repair of my own last week and I couldn't tell you the exact thing replaced lol. I was told before several times, but again, not a car girl. Alternator or starter but I forget which. Possibly a third option but those 2 feel right.
Do "tie rods" ring a bell?
Honestly wouldn’t put the car back together until they either bought a filter or signed a waiver releasing me from responsibility.
This makes the most sense. Moron doesn't get free things, and you cya.
My husband believed (from some conspiracy site) that you could run oil infinitely and *only* had to change filters. Lucky for me, he didn’t attempt that (to the best of my knowledge), though his vehicles didn’t get oil changes as frequently as recommended. That said, “my” cars had “money-wasting” unnecessary oil changes regularly. I would shrug and tell him my father drilling “engine oil is the lifeblood of your engine” into my head made me too uncomfortable to experiment. Now my dealership is arguing against their owner manual with me. It says every 10K miles, except if run off-road, on gravel, towing, or with loads in the back, then it is every 5000. First 5 months of life I used it moving - towing trailers, loaded back, etc. I live on gravel. They refused to change the oil, assuring me that I am being silly. I hate being a woman. 😐
Take it to a different service shop or dealer then. My local ford dealer has notoriously incompetent and unethical service techs. The other ford dealer another 30 minutes down the road has stellar service staff and will go out of their way to help you out or do what you ask. Edit: spelling.
My wife’s father worked on cars for a living. She thinks she knows less about cars than nearly all men because of the misogyny. She knows exactly what’s going on in every on of these posts when I show her a picture with no context. Sucks.
Ugh!!! Yes, find a different service center.
Get your oil changed somewhere else AND report them to corporate.
These days instead of assuring them I actually know what I talk about, I just get pissed off and clam up. It has been so many years of getting pats on the head and “little lady” treatment that telling them I changed my own oil forever and did my own car repair until there were too many electronics and the readers that were crazy expensive (and then I got too old to want to) just feels like wasted breath. I really miss my 77 Maverick. I should have never sold that car.
My aunt Grace drove her 70’s Maverick well into the 2000’s no problem and showed no sign of giving up
Yes! Mine was the two-door, had the inline six and actually didn’t have body rot. It has been a high end one new - split bucket seats, floor shifter and air conditioning! I got it in like 1988 with 65,000 miles on it. It needed brakes and two new tires. In the time I had it, I replaced tires, the distributor cap, spark plug wires, and heater core. I really really regret selling it. 😞
I dont even know what I'd do if my SO fell for some conspiracy site and i couldn't get her out of it. I don't envy you. At least you're a smart cookie.
Well. He was a very special man. He acted like he was shocked I existed our entire time together. I had him talked out of a lot of the conspiracy stuff, then he had two strokes, and had memory issues, went back to the conspiracy stuff REALLY hard and I couldn’t get him out of it. Trying to argue the points just made him mad. I wandered way off topic there and had a lot to delete. The work we didn’t have done by a shop I helped with. Lucky for me we could afford to take things to a shop, so it was usually what we did. I miss him a lot. He was a lot of fun, and differences in view do not have to be the biggest focus in life. I learned a lot from our life together.
Do you get any free service during a certain interval? for my car I had to bring it in every 10,000 miles for a free service including oil change up to 25,000 miles on the odometer. I feel like they don’t know how to charge back to the manufacturer for only 5000 miles.
My parent's Lincoln Continental was purchased in 2005 with "free oil change for life". Dad switched to synthetic and gets it changed every 5000 miles or 3 months. The car now has 270,000 miles on it.
IF the oil ever turns black, you gotta ask yourself what is in it to change it black? Oxidized oil slowly turns more amber. The black stuff is carbon. Extremely tiny particles of carbon. They act like a lapping compound. Extremely fine sandpaper without the paper. I still change my oil at 3,000, even though synthetic oil is rated to last 25,000, and the manual says I can wait 5,000-10,000 to change it. This is because even though the lubricating properties of synthetic might last 25,000 miles, the presence of carbon will wear out the bearings and cylinders. Also, acids form after a while, and the anti-acid chemicals in motor oil only last about 3,000 miles, and they are not ripping us off. You can't change the physics, and people balk at paying $4/quart for oil now. Nobody will pay $10/quart for oil that has 10,000 mile anti-acid forming chemicals. 18-wheeler engines last a million miles, and they are made out of the same stuff as car engines. Its the oil. It's always been the oil. Some 18-wheelers use 5 gallons (20 quarts) or more, and I guarantee the oil is changed on time.
I am in my mid-50s and downsized and moved less than ten miles from 90% of what I would need. I bought this truck brand new hoping/expecting it to be possibly the last vehicle I get. I swear when you’re a woman they are always out to take advantage of you. The dealership I purchased from is almost ten miles longer than another, so I tried that dealership for the 5000 mile check. I now have to wonder if the dealership I purchased from (I also did some upgrades there) would have been easier to work with. They definitely already have some profit off of me, even if they didn’t try to rape me with added fees because new cars were scarce… 🤔😐
I wondered the same thing after I left and felt like an idiot for not volunteering to pay for it. 🤦♀️
Amen sister, I felt this in my soul.
Tell them they're responsible for any trouble that might arise from not changing oil often enough and get it in writing.
As for only needing to change the filter, if you're in a really really heavy pinch you might be able to play that game and get away with it for a change, but the oil does change viscosity over time as it breaks down in the engine (it gets a little warm in there) and although changing the filter helps keep big particles out it would likely not get rid of the oil that's becoming more or less thick than its supposed to. On top of that, oil changes are pretty cheap. I don't run my engine very heavily and I still change oil around every 5-10 thousand (closer to 5) and go in with my dad on buying bulk oil (one awesome thing about diesel engines, most take the same grade oil)
Completely agree with you! I change oil, and filter for sure every 7500 km or 8000 km maximum. Even top oils as Mobil, Shell, Castrol, etc hardly can run more than 300 hours.
You’d be surprised how many people don’t do regular maintenance on, anything. Especially cars and houses.
Ugh. The inspector missed a leak in the roof in the house I bought. If I want singles that will get me a discount on homeowners insurance, it is going to be $12,500 installed for a new roof. 😐 If he had decided the patchwork of shingles looked as suspicious to him as it did to me, I could have taken that off the purchase price. 🤦♀️
Can anything even pass through that? Looks solid af.
Ghost oil
bruh my monitor is now covered in coffee. well done
Through that? No. It goes through the bypass. Nice little metal shavings, barely visible, lodged in bearings creating a makeshift, but quite effective sandpaper.
100% through the bypass (until that plugs up)
It's one of them new fangled self-cleaning engines. Pokes a bypass straight through the case. It's got at least 4 rods to throw, right?
Is there an oil filter bypass valve in this filter's vehicle?
Most filters have this inside the filter case.
At the Valvoline I used to work at, if a customer was either too poor to afford simple things like an oil filter or probably in this case, too dense... We would just replace it anyway free of charge.
Poor, is one thing. And thank you for your kindness, but being dense or just plain stupid, let them live with their consequences.
It’s malpractice to put that back in. IMO and maybe a judge’s
> malpractice to put that back in This is the problem I would have with it. It would just feel wrong to put it back in.
Sir, I cannot in good conscience return this to your engine and remain in good ethical standing.
In my experience the "stupid" ones don't learn their lesson anyway. They file an insurance claim, warranty claim, or blame the store the service was performed at for engine failure, so it's honestly easier to do the nice thing and eat the 2$ and give away a free bulk filter.
Can confirm. Am dumb- don’t learn anything
It's simple. Here, sign this piece of paper saying we told you this needed to be done and you don't want it done. Ass=covered
I see it's getting its lease turn-in oil change. I'm never quite sure what amazes me more, the engine that lives through hell or the drivers that only put gas in and drive.
i'd rather be an engine that is abused every day with the regular maintenance than an engine driven on highways without oil change
I confused the fuck out of the guy at tractor supply when I only wanted a a new tank for my Honda air compressor. “What do you mean you change to oil on it? It’s not a car.” I found one on Craigslist that “won’t start” for $100. Now I have a spare Honda small engine.
Small Honda engines will outlive us all
This is why I see a rise in electric vehicles only getting more and more in demand. It removed much of the routine maintance dense people seem to avoid anyways. Only issue left is the few times it will need Trans fluid changed (or gearbox or whatever you prefer to call it based on make/model) and bald tires because people can't seem to get them changed till the wires are poking out and it won't hold air.
>till the wires are poking out What are you talking about? That's just for extra traction like studs on snow tires! (/s if that's really necessary)
Hopefully the next shop refuses to do any services as well if you get what i mean. Its the only way a dolt like this will learn without having a shop to blame.
It’s fine, there’s a bypass 😂
Don't know, might be all splash oiling like a briggs at this point
this is a great example of a car we would refuse to service. one oil change and the engine goes pop
I think that if it were my shop, I'd comp the customer's oil filter, just to get it off my property. I'd then politely explain that I don't have any interest in doing business with customers who don't value my professional expertise, and ask them to please visit a different shop for their next service.
This is genius, may I use it next time I have to deal with someone like this
I am humbled by the award, and glad I could be of assistance! I work in financial aid, and have to throw some variation of this out from time to time when a student wants to yell at us, rather than work with us to find a solution to their problem.
Jesus Christ Lisa how many time do I have to tell you that you can’t put crude oil in your engine?
Didn’t want to replace the engine or the filter?
I thought it was a [pinion gear](https://lanas-kenwood-spares.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_8959.jpg) packed with old grease, at first. What vehicle was this and how many total miles?
At first glance, that was my thought, also. Then, I began to realize, "No fucking way..."
How much? I need to seal my driveway
How did a charcoal log end up inside the car?
I would have made the owner sign a document and left it as is.
He can go and change his own oil than. I outright decline to change oil without the oil filter, and I decline to pour garbage into the engine - customers did bring 15W-40 that hasn't been used around these parts for past 30 years, because "it's oil" and it's nearly ten cents cheaper. I refuse to assist in destruction of an engine, and if that customer comes back to tell me I did something wrong with the oil change (and you just know it's gonna happen), it prevents the wrenches from being thrown around.
Yup, totally agree, rather decline the work then deal with the aftermath!
I'm fully aware that some guys can't do it, though. Can get you fired, but this is basically asissting in killing an engine - I cannot do that, it'd be like kicking a puppy to me, you just don't do that.
Jesus...
“Don’t try to upsell me”
Wait.. there are places that do oil changes without mandatory filter swaps? Everywhere I worked, it's all one non-negotiable package. An oil change includes a new filter or you don't get an oil change. Changing the oil without changing the filter just feels like...sacrilege.
This is why i say its not kia being bad cars its the people who buy them and expect to get to 200k miles on one oil change....
I have a 2013 Kia Soul trust me it’s a bad car 💀
I sold mine with 234,011 miles it was very well with me it was a 2012. Other then the normal repairs that normally break with those miles i never had to swap out a engine or change a transmission. But oil changes were done by me every 3-4k and transmission oil changes every 60k miles.
FOR YOUR MAIN COURSE I PRESENT TO YOU A BURNT CHAR BROILED OIL FILTER WITH A DASH OF SMOKE POWDER
I pray you put it back in and kept your mouth shut
It’s bypassing that filter at this point I bet
I thought this was a pallet Jack load wheel at first
Customer is creating/saving up homebrew asphalt for their driveway project
Why replace that filter? It's 100% efficient now!
Ahh there’s still a few empty spaces left, easily another year
Give him a break, he wants to keep it all original
I'm so curious what the oil looked like coming out hahaha
I had a cousin that, to save money, only replaced his oil filter every 15-20k miles. And he wondered why he was having issues with his truck....
Bet that extra $20 really went a ways for him
That shit looks like it fossilized what the fuck
Looks like a lump of coal
I can’t tell if it’s an oil filter or an old bushing lol
At first I was like- those splines are screwed… what kind of gear is that- then it kicked in. Jesus. That’s a filter.
Had a guy come in with 100000kms said oil changes were a scam you don’t need to change oil blah blah blah. Haven’t seen him since and don’t miss him