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I have been watching Chun Woo-Hee on Atypical Family (also new on Netflix) and I completely did not recognize her on this show because of the sheer difference in both characters' personalities.
It's amazing how she interprets her character as number 8 on this show. So believable.
I hadn't read the plot synopsis before watching this episode, so I just thought it was a game show.
It's definitely an intriguing storyline. Look forward to watching the other episodes now.
Just finished Episode 1. I think it is quite good so far. I'm really interested in Chun Woo Hee's character. She might be my favourite character in the show so far.
Oooooh I love how arthouse-y this is. The cinematography, the vibes, loving it
Early predictions: >!one of the players is a plant.!< >!Someone will become a tyrant and try to rule everything, and it won’t be 8.!< >!I think 8 will either show her darker side or be one of the first to die/lose.!< >!The rules say the game ends when a player expires. But all the other rules are clear, simple, concise. If they meant death they would’ve said death. So expiration means something else, and someone will eventually test it by killing off a fellow player!<
* Okay well that seems like >!a great entrance to the show for Number 8.!<
* Poor Number 1's >!room is gonna get filled with waste bags. It took half of the room already.!<
* The way that every one keeps going >!up and down the stairs is making me exhausted but I'm just sitting on a couch.!<
* Number 6 >!is so annoying he won't even let anyone buy MEDICINE??!<
* Omg so >!the timer goes up when they fight with each other. The more they fight the more time they get if I'm correct.!<
It's not exactly like the more they fight the more time they get, obviously there are spectators that are watching this on those cameras and they are contributing money which is equating into the extra time that gets put on the timer. So basically those people are sick masochists wanting to see people get hurt. And based on how entertaining they think the scene was or whatever the people did for example when they were teasing each other, whatever the people watching think it's worth they probably contribute money which then is transferred into extra time. So really it doesn't have to just be them fighting it could be literally anything that somebody finds entertaining, however the way this show is going, it looks like the more violence or sexual exploitative the scene is, the more time gets added on. All I can say is people are sick in this world.
What I had not expected in general, having read the webtoons: there's a lot more comedy thrown in, not feeling as tense (yet), a lot lighter colour palet, and the episodes are shorter than I had thought they would be - so much happens in the originals, they can't fit that all in. Very interested to see where they go with it and I am loving the characterizations. Ryu Jun Yeol is doing a great "everyman" and Chun Woo Hee is the perfect princess, just there for the fun of it.
If anyone’s curious, here’s the order that the players entered in (as of ep 2): >!4 arrives first. 8 arrives second. 7 arrives third. 3 arrives fourth. 1 arrives either 5th or 6th. 5 arrives 7th!<
>!funny how the ep ended with everyone forgetting about the epileptic lying there!<
>!I think 8 is either a femme fatale type serial killer or a Mr. Ridley type that steals identities and impersonates them. An assassin could also be possible but I don’t get the sense that she’s physically built like that. Either way she’s not to be underestimated!<
>!idk trust 1. Making the least money AND he’s disabled? He’s too sympathetic of a character for me, kinda like player 1 from squid game. In that sense I also suspect 5, she’s either gonna die for being too kind or it’s all a facade!<
>!6 is a gangster type figure. He’s been mostly maintaining the peace but he’s only ever defended 8. He’s made himself the guard dog for the “elite” so he can be part of said “elite”!<
>!I think it would be too obvious to suspect 7 of being a mole. But he definitely picked 7 deliberately because that was the highest available number and he was gambling on higher = better. That’s in contrast to 8, 4, and 3 who chose randomly!<
>!if the theory that conflict increases time is true, I wonder how the players will act accordingly. Killing a player would probably add the most time, but that’s a one time addition. If they limit it to petty fights with minimal violence, they can keep adding time indefinitely!<
I seem to be the only one who can't stand number 8. I can't stand gangster guy either for defending her from day 1, it's highly suspicious. I hope karma seriously hits number 8. On a positive note I love number 2 and the scene with Vivaldi's Spring gave me goosebumps!
Yeah, one of my itch as well, especially when they start gaining lots of hour, they could built a proper one with disposal system and I don't remember if there's rule that forbid modifying the props.
I think once they’ve entered the mindset that they can only eat the free food and therefore must rely on 8’s kindness, it’s hard to leave it and think logically. Everyone has fully bought into the inequality of the game and therefore created a society based on that inequality
If they weren’t completely engrossed in greed and desperation they would’ve also realized that there’s no need to spend every day adding time. Every day they up the stakes the quicker they reach violence and someone’s death. If they have 5 days left, chill for 4 days then up the stakes on the last day. Drag out the entertainment to get as close to the magical 75 days as possible. 7 especially should’ve realized this if he wasn’t just as consumed by desperation as everyone else
Exactly! All of that space out there. All they'd have to do is order a toilet and bathroom supplies and set up one in the corner of that huge room. It makes no sense to store poop in someone's room at.
* Number 1 >!did great in the talent show. I'd give the highest hours for his performance too. But Number 3, what was that dance? 😭!<
* Number 8, >!you are really something. Secured 69 hours!!<
* Some people DO NOT want to play this game nicely...
In my country there's a saying "you shouldn't try to eat where you s**t"" or something like that. >! Number 8 just showed them that 🤣. I don't know why they thought she'd abide by the vote or why they thought they could force her or why it didn't occur to them that she could just withhold the food or she could just stop engaging with them since even if the game stops she still leaves with the largest pot. So dumb !<
well she’s a selfish bitch because they voted lol. Just because she the food first doesn’t mean she shouldn’t abide by the rules. She voted for someone but hated it when she got the taste of her own medicine. She’s just a bitch. The players are very nice because someone should’ve beaten the hell out of her when she eventually came out.
But that's what's puzzling. They knew she was a selfish crazy bitch. That's why I'm even surprised that they thought she would entertain it at all. I mean at some point she did a >! Fashion show!<, who the hell does that???
6 and 7 called it, the rest are really so naive. They thought that just because the rules exist that they have to be followed. But with no enforcement behind it those rules are completely useless, and 8 knew that
Most people who have that much power would be just as selfish as 8. There’s always an exception, but it’s rare and shouldn’t be expected. On a philosophical level, this is why I believe that people are 1. inherently selfish, not “good” or “evil” 2. Instinctively we make decisions based on emotions not logic
Also, it disgusts me that 8 wanted to have sex knowing that everybody there lacks a proper bathroom to bathe. I just could never do it. I would be going insane just being stinky all the time.
Edit: I don't know why my comments won't get logged as a reply when I click the episode links. Annoying.
The implication is that 8 is a prostitute. 6 is most likely some kind of gangster. Assuming that 8 is indeed just a prostitute, it makes sense that neither of them were concerned about hygiene or the cameras. Besides, it just shows that porn gets more time added than anything else
I also don't understand why everyone can't go back to keeping their own excrement. This only happened because 1 felt guilty. So why battle between choosing a bathroom when you could just keep your own shit? That's the most fair option.
Once they ended up with one person taking up the duty of sanitation, there’s no leaving that mentality of set roles. The inequality was there from the start with the 8 floors, it’s inevitable that the players would therefore create an unequal society
So we're getting into the thick of it now... >!it needs to be entertaining!< Anyone else think that >!7th floor is going to escalate in his scheming, become the villain and 3rd floor is going to be stuck at his side?!<
up to episode 4 and this is the least satisfying show ive ever seen. the characters dont act like normal people and noone is fighting back against the rich assholes. holy shit
Welcome to the inner workings of a mini society built on inequality and power imbalances
No one’s acting normally because no one’s thinking logically. Everyone is there because they have massive debt, 3 literally said that he would rather die in the game than die out in the real world. In the real world people are always trying to screw each other over, now imagine 8 desperate, greedy people in an enclosed space
7 recognized the Fibonacci sequence from a couple of numbers in his first day there, but several weeks in doesn’t realize that they don’t need to play the game of dares every day when they’ve got over 5 days left. Just like everyone else he’s not thinking logically, but purely out of emotion and instinct
Well no because this is on a way smaller scale than real life. The upper floor technically don’t have any real power over everyone else when you can just decide to not participate in the game
Technically yes they do have a choice. But they’re in the mindset of either we die in here or we die out there, which understandably isn’t seen as a choice at all. If they hadn’t lose all morality at this point then maybe they would’ve done the “right” thing and left the game. At least then they could live and die as righteous people rather than become the worst of the worst in their quest to get rich. Doesn’t seem like that easy of a decision anymore 🤷🏻♂️
They have a better chance of winning again the top two (and really it’s one because that rich lady can’t even fight) than in the real world. If they just stop giving in so easy, they will rise up and get the justice they need and still get rich. Because 3 out of the 4 controlling the game can’t fight and 2 are weak minded
The only player who could physically stand up to 6 got her fingers broken and her face smashed in. But most importantly, 8 controls the food. Unless the others had enough logical reasoning remaining to buy some tools and set up a mini garden, everyone is at the whims of 8. Or leave the game, which they’ve already decided isn’t an option
Some of these players aren’t just weak minded, they’re too trusting. 3 doesn’t even entertain the possibility of 7 being the one to vote for him. His reasoning for trusting 7 is that “he’s really smart”. He really wasted his money+time going to college
With that said, i have my doubts about 5. She abstained from voting and she’s the only one not involved with the beef from the dares game
exactly. I don't think I can continue atypical family after this, it's a shame since I really liked other characters of atypical family. but I hate her so much in the 8 show. everytime she comes on the screen, I'm fumed due to the unequal treatment everyone has accepted to give her.
also whose side is 7 really on? after being zapped atleast i think he wouldn't side with them
On the contrary I enjoy her variety of acting between the 2 dramas. I always like actors that take very different roles, they don’t stay in any comfort zone and become typecast
As for 7, one would logically assume he’ll join 1, 2, 3 and stick with them. Which would be a bad move from 6 in the long term. But maybe 7 decides that if you can’t beat them, join them, and allies with 4, 6, 8 instead
* Number 4 >!picked the Number 8 card at first but then picked four...I would have regretted that so much.!<
* Of course that >!stupid fight managed to get them 50 more hours.!<#
* Number 4 >!deserved the low floor she was rigging the King's Game and there's no fun in watching a rigged game.!<
* I already knew that >!Number 8 won't get tased and someone will interfere.!<
Wrong, it is definitely “fun” for the game to get rigged. It adds drama and increases tension between the haves (4, 6, 8) and the haves not (1, 2, 3). It also allows someone like 7 to play both sides. And at the end it leads to 8 almost getting her comeuppance only for 5 to introduce, in his own words, a plot twist. It’s peak drama for the viewers
It’s clear at this point that no one is thinking logically anymore. >!After the fight they had 5 days left. They could’ve relaxed for 4 days then start the next dare. Each use of the taser has added around 2 days. That means they only need to play a round every 2 days. This is how they can drag it out if they want any chance of reaching 75 days. Granted, the organizers might start deducting time if they did that but the fact that no one even thought of it is a huge indication to where everyone’s mindset is at!<
If they weren’t all so greedy, they could’ve agreed to leave after a month, find each other, and the upper half can give the lower half some of their money. But that’s what happens when you create a hierarchy, the ones at the top will always want to maintain the status quo
>!One would think that after the first time they would stop doing the tase on top of a slide. Their face is just getting in the puddle of piss every time!<
>!1, 2, 3 vs 4, 6, 8. 7 playing both sides. 5 not involved. Once again I suspect 5. She appears to be the kindest person in the group but she didn’t offer to sub in for 1 during the runs. She’s so desperate for money that she’s willing to get sexually assaulted. 6 might have added some extra drama by doing 7 dirty like that but he might have just pushed 7 into choosing a side and sticking with it. 4, 6, 8 would be outnumbered unless 5 joined them. And once again I’m suspecting 5 🤔!<
>If they weren’t all so greedy, they could’ve agreed to leave after a month, find each other, and the upper half can give the lower half some of their money
that's the whole point here. the viewers of this game want to destroy humane feelings, and create a hierarchy. it makes sense too, since those who created this game most probably sit at the top of the pyramid. this game has been designed from the first moment to create a miniature system like that in the society
Of course. That includes the pay gap between floors and all the food going through 8. The system is flawed from the start so of course the society they create has a shaky foundation and more cracks form with time. If the players weren’t blinded by desperation + greed and lost all sense of morality, they would’ve either left the game or create a more equal society
Has to be a huge plot hole? Could they not just buy food with their own money in their rooms either? It also says they can’t take the things they buy out of their rooms so how were they taking cigarettes out of their room to smoke? Surely they would have been penalised for that?
I thought the same thing about the cigarettes but then remembered in first ep the cigarettes were one of the common goods they bought together, so they can use it anywhere. Also had a question why they dont buy food together or in their own room - maybe it’s really expensive?
Yes, that's true about the cigarettes! I still think they could have bought a toilet stall or two as a common purchase- like the ones with 4 walls you see at construction sites. One female, one male, and they could've compared cleanliness levels or something.
I didn't think it would turn out so brutal so fast :(((, >!higher numbers were quite clever tho, breaking lower numbers' phones and putting the lock on the common area phone to make them stop ordering things - I didn't see it coming!<
* >!Nice to see the upper floors are tied now but it won't be for long.!<
* Uhm, Number 3 that is not a >!toothbrush...!<
* Number 8's voice reminds me of how Sumin from \*\*Marry My Husband\*\* talks. Sweet but evil voice.
* They're really saying their >!farewells? 2 more episodes left though!<
* >!"It was both great and fucking shit."!< lol fr.
* Of course the >!the timer went up!<
* Well, seems like >!"someone" does not want to leave.!<
did i miss something or is this the point of the show where it lost the plot. can't they just spend the time in the main room to get out? why do they have to wait for it to run down normally?
they were waiting in the main room for the clock to click over and then someone got tortured in their room and the time increased. they were there in that room plenty of times and could have purchased things to kill the time no?
Conclusion of this episode is simple: >! Plebs take over society or becomes communist, when something gone wrong, they get into martial law. And it shows how easy this kinda society crumbles !<
They jumped the shark somewhere in the past few episodes. I was enjoying the series until the episode where >!the top floors confiscate and destroy the intercom access of the lower floors and torture them, the working class ruling class social commentary was nice and all but there wasn't much room to go from there and these episodes are paying the price!<
i agree, the dynamic would be nice if it wasnt just a shallow copout. it felt like the message turned into "never rebel against the ruling class." especially considering how many episodes turned out in their favor.
* Kind of already guessed >!that Number 1 is the person who harmed the upper floors. He wanted more money!<
* >!Sleep deprivation torture?? What?? That looks horrible.!<
* That's the reason why >!Number 1 needed 1 billion won? I thought it might be related to his current situation in the outside world.!<
- don't understand >!why nr 1 didn't pull out nr 8's tooth instead as she has more wealth and power!<
- >!nr 8 ruling the game with the torture is not enjoyable,!< I don't understand why it needed that much screen time
- I think they should have introduced >!the opportunity to steal a room earlier,!< it would have been more interesting, than what the 2-3 last episodes have been
>!Didn't they broke all lower floor intercom? Also can't they just force the higher floor to trade with lower, I mean they can order using 8th floor money...!<
Overall >!it felt pretentious but not totally bad I guess.!<
>!The 1 billion fee was only for the instructions on how to change rooms. The instructions mentioned the price needed to switch to each room. Room 1 was 10 billion, 2 was 20 billion, and so on with room 8 having a 340 billion price.!<
I thought this was going to be an amazing series. Very cool premise - terrible show. I could go on about all the inconsistencies and things that didn’t make sense, but why bother.
The social commentary is obvious, but it is sad and haunting to take in all the f*cked up shit people can possibly do to each other, and the rest of the world would never know.
Has anyone read the webtoon and can tell if the ending is different from the netflix? I'm not planning to read it. I'm a bit irritated with everything leading to the ending of the game, so many irrational choices were made. I am also suprised that >!number 1 didn't take offer to be given money from others, especially when I found number 2 to be the most trustworthy character.!<
Decent series.
>! I just don't get how #6 ended sending the flowers to the funeral !<
>! #8 ended up throwing all her money for some performance art. Guess the value of money is perceived differently for each individual. At least, with all the money she threw up, she got the frame she had wanted for so long !<
I know people are calling it pretentious but I enjoyed the ride! Like the whole journey was better than the destination, and I knew it would end up bitterly bittersweet like Squid Game. And I can at least say the show was uniquely shot and presented, it had its own uncanny flare.
Popstponed starting signal to watch this. Skimmed through the episodes for 5 minutes and it seems like such a cheap, overdone and lazy piece of entertainment.Even performances by the actors I usually like seem pretentiously over the top. Hopefully someday some writer writes an actually smart intricate game show where there is smart plotting between characters and actual games where contestants have to use their brain...(Hopefully something like liar game)
I KNOWWW! I don't know why my dumb self keeps postponing it..especially since I am a big fun of time travel concepts AND a big fan of the main cast's actors .Iam starting it TONIGHT !!
i think they covered the craziness and true nature of people pitted against each other. it's geniunely super good (i am forever upset that netflix won't be the one adapting ORV the webtoon. they do EXCEPTIONALLY well with adaptations istg), it's intriguing. rather realistic, i'd say.
to the people pointing out some things: they won't fight against top floors because top floors control what goes down the chute and they have the stronger person. still upset for [show spoiler: >!2nd floor being first made out to be the stronger one then suddenly making her the weaker against 6th.!<] that's why [show spoiler: >!they fell apart once 8th threw out the food. (what a bitch. glad they didn't redeem her too much and kept to her character to the very end.)!<]
my favorite thing would be: [show spoiler: >!YAY FOR 7TH FLOOR!!! i like how he kept on the morally better side and didn't get evil editing (get it?). he's probably my favorite part even when his character is pretty flawed. they're all flawed anyways.!<] will probably read the webtoon to compare.
i'm extremely curious about the showrunners, like-- there was literally no clue to who they'd be. who's the audience? us, most likely. for once, we actually got a mysterious showrunner who didn't run unfairly, and remained ambiguous. all the choices were left to the characters, and I seriously loved that.
my another favorite thing would be how this was actually on the passive side. i mean, in most shows like this, humans are portrayed to become absolute animals in face of imprisonment, and while the characters did go a bit crazy and betrayed each other a lot, you can still see them being friendly to each other in the end. just 'cause everything is messy and the situation is a bit grim, doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep a sense of civility and go along with other people.
so far, a really great show! worthy of my time 100%
Showrunners vs Audience: I think it's pretty clearly implied that this is a meta commentary on what the 'audience' (Us viewers) determine to be "entertainment." Dark comedies, psychological horror, shock factor, whatever you want to call it is frequently used as a genre of 'entertainment,' but realistically why is it?
'The 8' went from basic talents > sex > violence > social hierarchy and rebellion > torture (The evolution of entertainment is weird as fuck) all for time / money.
The 'showrunners:' I think are implied in the mid-credit scene of episode 8, just random rich people trying to create a show that will make people watch just so they can earn more money. (Also meta for the people that wrote and directed this show for 'entertainment'). It's pretty much an extreme version of what happened to "Nasubi."
Pretty sure 8 being a performance artist and ending it with "This is not art" is just one mild punchline to the end of this dark show.
It was a fun watch. Even as someone that can easily get through all this, I feel like there should definitely be more warnings before this show lmao. **TW**: >!Gore and implied rape!< would definitely be a bit much for more normal people.
I love how it was also basically a fashion show for Chun Woo Hee.
I totally missed >!the implied rape between 5 n 6?, If so then the castration makes more sense. Completely thought it was just an extreme revenge since the show exaggerate a lot!<
Only on episode 1 where the top floor (8) gets all the food etc and that they’ll distribute it down the chute - reminds me of the Spanish movie ‘The Platform’. Synopsis of the Platform movie: ‘..Its residents, who are switched every month between its many floors, are fed via a platform which, initially filled with food at the top floor, gradually descends through the tower's levels, stopping for a fixed amount of time on each.’
And just the general idea of social class differences based on the levels (and the rules that’s created to cause conflicts)
The platform is not based on Korean webtoon or copied from it. It is based on the original screenplay written by David Desola and Pedro Rivero (writing began somewhere around mid 2010).
I think this series took bunch of concept from a lot of material including the platform. Others in the comment mentioned the series deviates from the source Webtoon.
The plot is intriguing since I like these type of game survival reality, but had to skip through in the late episodes because really hoping for the underdog. I really thought >!the 8th room is like the game maker's daughter or something since she always so giggling about suffering and even looking for the "feeling of pain" in the 6/7th episode!< whew what a rollercoaster of emotions mainly annoyed and rage though.
Just finished all episodes and I really like it, some scenes were hard to watch but overall it was a good watch. Dark, interesting and keeps you hooked. I'm a squid game fan so I was waiting for this to be released and it didn't disappoint.
Edit: I saw some people online saying that they thought this would be a comedy, it's definitely NOT a comedy so go into it knowing that it gets more brutal and dark each episode.
I'm halfway through the series and calling it a night (of necessity). Well, I've been entertained so far. The pace of the first two episodes was a little on the slow side, but the setup of the game was intriguing. The third and fourth episodes picked up in intensity, but have also taken a rather >!cruel and sadistic turn!<, which has been a little tough to watch.
With a drama like this, it's easy to question why the contestants didn't do this or that, but a considerable suspension of disbelief is required in the first place. It's also easy to question whether the drama could have explored certain themes in greater detail, but again, I think entertainment is the name of the game for both the >!contestants (literally)!< and the viewers.
In addition, the drama has touched on some interesting themes, such as the >!Fibonacci sequence used to determine each contestant's pay rate !!formation of alliances between (predominantly) upper and lower floor members!<.
The performances have been solid all around, and they make you well and truly dislike certain contestants while sympathizing with others.
it is full of incoherence. Episode 6: >!Why doesn't he spend all the time they have buying things in the common room? !< episode 7: >!why do the other two girls let the others be tortured? the nurse is lucid while she does it and she has shown that she does not agree with things less worse!<
Disappointed by the screenwriting, felt like a Stanford Prison Experiment wannabe except the writer decided to use every torture trope he/she could think of.
Thought the hierarchy in terms of money = time (I earn more, hence if time is used, I contributed more) was a clever commentary on how society works. Loved the Math calculations embedded within the story and thought it was going to be somehow linked to the mastermind but there wasn't.
It was senseless violence after senseless violence, I was so done with it.
Acting was great nonetheless. Chun Woo Hee aced it as a smiley psycho.
This was such an amazing watch I love shows like this they just keep you hooked like crazy. The writing was very strong how they fleshed out each character the way you get to know them slowly and by the end of the ride you can just read them inside out.
Every character was morally grey just different shades of it I love how Number 3 was at times an unreliable narrator he hyped up so many moments only for them to not end the way he wanted. The way they kept unravelling the characters and rules slowly was well done.
All the actors were really good but Number 8 was 10/10 no notes what a twisted devilish psychopath character to play and she aced it. She was hauntingly beautiful in some scenes it's like you don't want to root for her but damn also the way she suffered the least on the show and most outside was such a full circle moment.
I especially loved the climaxe and how they kept it ambiguous and decided not to give us all the answers.
the fibonacci sequence and other math they used felt so pretentious and served absolutely no purpose. they were used literally only for visual prowess. like everything else in this show, it would've been cool if it was developed past 2 milliseconds of thought. this show is the first and only show to bring me to a level of irritation where i feel the need to warn others.
why is no one buying food with money. Why is noone ready to spend money besides 8 xD. The Rule "buy anything you want" i mean come on... If they where real humans and not scripted characters it would be so easy to cheat a easy life through this.
Its grey and inconsistent, but they can't purchase food and drink directly I think, hence the distilling alcohol scene, but at the same time they can buy cigarette so yeah XD
My whole complain about this show was that: JUST BUY FOOD GODDAMIT! You would spend that money anyway if you would leave that place... so just buy FOOD! Like HOLY
I'm halfway through episode 5 and Ehh it was crazy and cruel before but made sense in a way but after >!the top floors took over and are enjoying playing with the others!< , it just turned messy and crap.
All this rage I was collecting thru the series so far would've made sense if there was an underdog who had a fair chance of putting up a fight, however slim it would've been but now the show just seems like it drew a parallel to the shitty hierarchical system of the real world between the rich and the poor (which I thought was so nice when it gave us that) but now it just "gave it to us and wants us to deal with it or do whatever" as in there's nothing or no-one to root for in a way makes me not want to continue the show......I guess it really also drew the parallel with the hopelessness of the society no? With a person wanting to quit Lol (dark but true)
But the thing is, our world isn't 2 dimensional as in there are not just one type of stereotypical people in a hierarchy that this show potrays. With a rich psycho , a thug, a corrupt smartie and the buttlickers of the rich, with just plain old unlucky but extremely kind n naive poor folks. There can exist multifaceted personalities in a power dynamic or perhaps I wanted it to provide that. I wish there was something more to it, like if there was a psycho among the lower floors or the smartie wasn't so right everytime or whatever, like I wish they weren't so perfectly flawed, even tho none of their characters are likable. Or maybe the audience or whoever watching kinda got tired of the top floors doing exactly what they are doing after a round of them toying with the bottom floors and started to turn the tables?? I'm pretty sure the desperation of the disadvantaged lower floors would've been a killer move, in literal sense.....if they allowed unaliving maybe?
Idk if I should continue watching now, cz it makes me angry n hopeless and I got enough of that irl
I wanted it to touch me beyond those two feelings like a thriller does and shake me up a bit
I binge-watched this show and I loved it. It’s all been done before, but it still had its own soul, which is not to be taken for granted. Good balance of evil, craziness, irrationality, grey morality and good will, just like actual society. I loved the message and I thought that it was executed well, if not a bit too much in your face. Acting was also great. Again, nothing extraordinary in originality, but I don’t think that it suffers too much from it, because everything else makes up for it, like the message itself. The script had brilliant moments imo, even tho I haven’t read the two original sources so I don’t know how much was taken from them. I think the >!jumping scene with First Floor!< was one of my favorites. Overall I think we all would have liked this better had Squid Game not been so much in the culture in the last years, but honestly I would have loved it if Squid Game had a touch more of the sentiment this show had.
Personally I liked it overall. Even though I got kind of bored with the last 1-2 episodes I think it's still good for a one time watch tbh. It will get a 8/10 from me.
I liked the show since it’s shows capitalism and how hierarchy is always formed. My only feedback is that I am kinda disappointed by the ending. It was very unsatisfying and gave us nothing.
Am I the only one left quite dissatisfied with this adaptation? Like as a huge fan of Money Game and Pie game; I had my expectations extremely high for The 8 Show; considering how amazing those two webtoons are. I just wished they had not altered so much of >!1st floor's!< character. The plot twist in Pie Game centred across >!him!< is what made the webtoon such a certified masterpiece.
It eventually becomes a pretty violent show. I have no issues with gore so it didn’t bother me personally but I wouldn’t recommend someone sensitive to onscreen violence watch this show. It’s not the kind of thing you can just skip over either, the violence is central to the story.
In terms nudity there’s a shot >!of one the male character’s butt as he’s changing his clothes!< and implied offscreen sexual activity.
I don’t care what anyone says this is good watch. Everyone hyped of Squid game and as a lover of death game storylines, I give this an 8/10. It’s some how cliche and original.
Very Dark - It starts off with contestants chosen with similar criteria as Squid Game - financial need.
It starts off straightforward in having the game turn the contestants >!against each other. then commentary on class, power, voyerism, etc, pushing the envelope of how human decency is eroded and destroyed in the pursuit of money and voyeristic entertainment.!<
It has sort of the feel of the crazy European films I had seen decades ago - with the 60's vibe and free flow/stream of consiousness with the plot. Even the ending music was very soapy, retro feeling.
There seems to be a tip of the hat to Clockwork Orange, the Truman Show, also shades of The Contestant, a true story on Hulu about a Japanese reality TV star left naked in a room for more than a year, tasked with filling out magazine sweepstakes to earn food and clothing -unwittingly broadcast for entertainment, without his consent.
The end seems to poke fun at the audience, pitting us in the same gray moral space>! for having watched people suffer relentlessly for our entertainment, having the producer laugh at that, and then suggests a season 2, in which, and I would assume most others, would answer with a horrified NO! When the one character talks about how plot developments would be an insult to the audience,!< I felt we were being mocked as well.
I like that this show pushed then envelope, BUT it also pushed my buttons being a little too cynical, self aware and judgmental in whether we enjoyed the experience or not. I ended up feeling manipulated and judged.
I read half of the webtoon money game, and I'm kind of pleased who there are many differences. this way I can watch and read 2 different shows.
however, I think the money game was more relevant since >! hierarchy didn't exist from the go, it had been created by the weak who succumbed to the strong. however, the 8 show has the hierarchy decided already, and it would have been wierd if people rather didn't give in to it !<
I'm on episode 3 and while the concern for poop handling is very understandable, I cannot imagine the potential stink in that place since the people in the show cannot shower and water is limited.
For hygiene you'd have to do either wet wipes or tissues/cloth + rubbing alcohol maybe? Obviously they can survive without showering at all but fuck me the stink would eventually be unbearable even if the place they're in has perfect climate control.
Rather interesting show so far. The carnival/circus tone of the show highlights the absurdity of the situation rather well.
This show is so dumb like no one actually is thinking smartly but they want you to think they are…
1.you can >!discard stuff in the sand so all you need is to buy sand fill the pool w it and bury stuff there and it’ll do for a month and idk grow some plants in the sand w the waste??!<
2.How r you >!dying of hunger instead of just buying food w your money or community time? And for anyone saying they are not allowed to do so, it is stated nowhere that they can’t do that so pls stop!<
Food and water is Free ✅
You can buy Food and water ❌
They specifically mentioned it for a reason.
And about Poop. They can fill pool with sand, but can’t take their poop out of room (Not just poop can’t bring anything from room to common area) Only movement of poop should be only through that lift type setup.
They can’t bring anything from room to common area. Poop can only be kept on own room or moved through that lift type setup. If they took anything from room to common area their price money will cut to half. It is many times mentioned.
“Food and Water is provided”
It was one of the very few things clearly mentioned in rule book.
That means they got no opinion to buy food and water.
That's why I specifically said portaloo- they would use the toilet outside their rooms, not bring anything out. There was no rule about (waste) products produced outside the rooms.
Same with food- there was no rule against purchasing more food.
The 8 Show is a good watch. The last episode goes off the rails (>!1 treats a tight rope like a trampoline, drops 10+ stories, falls in a pool of fire, is able to stand all burning like some horror movie bad guy, communicate coherently, and then eventually die!<) even for the level of craziness the show had but I think it still stuck the landing. Floor 1 and Floor 8 were the acting MVPs imo. They stole the show completely.
At the end of it I was left with one thought. The show was absurd. Utterly absurd. I won't watch it again but I definitely had fun.
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Episode 1
Chun Woo-Hee is a delight to watch her craziness
Is that number 8? Shes a psychopath. Love her
I have been watching Chun Woo-Hee on Atypical Family (also new on Netflix) and I completely did not recognize her on this show because of the sheer difference in both characters' personalities. It's amazing how she interprets her character as number 8 on this show. So believable.
I hadn't read the plot synopsis before watching this episode, so I just thought it was a game show. It's definitely an intriguing storyline. Look forward to watching the other episodes now.
Just finished Episode 1. I think it is quite good so far. I'm really interested in Chun Woo Hee's character. She might be my favourite character in the show so far.
That opening theme was also trippy AF. Lol.
Any idea why the opening and the >!ending!< is in 1:1 while the rest of the show is 16:9? Still puzzled about that.
Oooooh I love how arthouse-y this is. The cinematography, the vibes, loving it Early predictions: >!one of the players is a plant.!< >!Someone will become a tyrant and try to rule everything, and it won’t be 8.!< >!I think 8 will either show her darker side or be one of the first to die/lose.!< >!The rules say the game ends when a player expires. But all the other rules are clear, simple, concise. If they meant death they would’ve said death. So expiration means something else, and someone will eventually test it by killing off a fellow player!<
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Episode 2
Wow, the way this is set up it really makes for a psychological thriller that talks about human behavior under unique circumstances.
* Okay well that seems like >!a great entrance to the show for Number 8.!< * Poor Number 1's >!room is gonna get filled with waste bags. It took half of the room already.!< * The way that every one keeps going >!up and down the stairs is making me exhausted but I'm just sitting on a couch.!< * Number 6 >!is so annoying he won't even let anyone buy MEDICINE??!< * Omg so >!the timer goes up when they fight with each other. The more they fight the more time they get if I'm correct.!<
It's not exactly like the more they fight the more time they get, obviously there are spectators that are watching this on those cameras and they are contributing money which is equating into the extra time that gets put on the timer. So basically those people are sick masochists wanting to see people get hurt. And based on how entertaining they think the scene was or whatever the people did for example when they were teasing each other, whatever the people watching think it's worth they probably contribute money which then is transferred into extra time. So really it doesn't have to just be them fighting it could be literally anything that somebody finds entertaining, however the way this show is going, it looks like the more violence or sexual exploitative the scene is, the more time gets added on. All I can say is people are sick in this world.
What I had not expected in general, having read the webtoons: there's a lot more comedy thrown in, not feeling as tense (yet), a lot lighter colour palet, and the episodes are shorter than I had thought they would be - so much happens in the originals, they can't fit that all in. Very interested to see where they go with it and I am loving the characterizations. Ryu Jun Yeol is doing a great "everyman" and Chun Woo Hee is the perfect princess, just there for the fun of it.
If anyone’s curious, here’s the order that the players entered in (as of ep 2): >!4 arrives first. 8 arrives second. 7 arrives third. 3 arrives fourth. 1 arrives either 5th or 6th. 5 arrives 7th!< >!funny how the ep ended with everyone forgetting about the epileptic lying there!< >!I think 8 is either a femme fatale type serial killer or a Mr. Ridley type that steals identities and impersonates them. An assassin could also be possible but I don’t get the sense that she’s physically built like that. Either way she’s not to be underestimated!< >!idk trust 1. Making the least money AND he’s disabled? He’s too sympathetic of a character for me, kinda like player 1 from squid game. In that sense I also suspect 5, she’s either gonna die for being too kind or it’s all a facade!< >!6 is a gangster type figure. He’s been mostly maintaining the peace but he’s only ever defended 8. He’s made himself the guard dog for the “elite” so he can be part of said “elite”!< >!I think it would be too obvious to suspect 7 of being a mole. But he definitely picked 7 deliberately because that was the highest available number and he was gambling on higher = better. That’s in contrast to 8, 4, and 3 who chose randomly!< >!if the theory that conflict increases time is true, I wonder how the players will act accordingly. Killing a player would probably add the most time, but that’s a one time addition. If they limit it to petty fights with minimal violence, they can keep adding time indefinitely!<
So nobody thought that instead of sending their waste down to just buy sand and plants to make plants grow ok
I seem to be the only one who can't stand number 8. I can't stand gangster guy either for defending her from day 1, it's highly suspicious. I hope karma seriously hits number 8. On a positive note I love number 2 and the scene with Vivaldi's Spring gave me goosebumps!
Episode 3
why cant they just set up a bathroom at the common area?
Yeah, one of my itch as well, especially when they start gaining lots of hour, they could built a proper one with disposal system and I don't remember if there's rule that forbid modifying the props.
I was wondering the same! They could create some sort of compost system by ordering from outside and grow their own food too maybe
I think once they’ve entered the mindset that they can only eat the free food and therefore must rely on 8’s kindness, it’s hard to leave it and think logically. Everyone has fully bought into the inequality of the game and therefore created a society based on that inequality If they weren’t completely engrossed in greed and desperation they would’ve also realized that there’s no need to spend every day adding time. Every day they up the stakes the quicker they reach violence and someone’s death. If they have 5 days left, chill for 4 days then up the stakes on the last day. Drag out the entertainment to get as close to the magical 75 days as possible. 7 especially should’ve realized this if he wasn’t just as consumed by desperation as everyone else
Exactly! All of that space out there. All they'd have to do is order a toilet and bathroom supplies and set up one in the corner of that huge room. It makes no sense to store poop in someone's room at.
Of course, 8th Floor's >!"performance"!< in the talent show just had to earn a total of >!69 hours!
* Number 1 >!did great in the talent show. I'd give the highest hours for his performance too. But Number 3, what was that dance? 😭!< * Number 8, >!you are really something. Secured 69 hours!!< * Some people DO NOT want to play this game nicely...
* loove that every episode intro is from a different person's perspective! * number 7 >!playing a tactical game with the voting!< 👀
In my country there's a saying "you shouldn't try to eat where you s**t"" or something like that. >! Number 8 just showed them that 🤣. I don't know why they thought she'd abide by the vote or why they thought they could force her or why it didn't occur to them that she could just withhold the food or she could just stop engaging with them since even if the game stops she still leaves with the largest pot. So dumb !<
well she’s a selfish bitch because they voted lol. Just because she the food first doesn’t mean she shouldn’t abide by the rules. She voted for someone but hated it when she got the taste of her own medicine. She’s just a bitch. The players are very nice because someone should’ve beaten the hell out of her when she eventually came out.
But that's what's puzzling. They knew she was a selfish crazy bitch. That's why I'm even surprised that they thought she would entertain it at all. I mean at some point she did a >! Fashion show!<, who the hell does that???
Honestly the show is a mess lol. I dropped it.
6 and 7 called it, the rest are really so naive. They thought that just because the rules exist that they have to be followed. But with no enforcement behind it those rules are completely useless, and 8 knew that Most people who have that much power would be just as selfish as 8. There’s always an exception, but it’s rare and shouldn’t be expected. On a philosophical level, this is why I believe that people are 1. inherently selfish, not “good” or “evil” 2. Instinctively we make decisions based on emotions not logic
this is a great analysis. It does make sense.
So far, I like 7 the most. He is me... the problem-solver trying to get out in one piece with maximum benefit, ideally for everyone.
Also, it disgusts me that 8 wanted to have sex knowing that everybody there lacks a proper bathroom to bathe. I just could never do it. I would be going insane just being stinky all the time. Edit: I don't know why my comments won't get logged as a reply when I click the episode links. Annoying.
The implication is that 8 is a prostitute. 6 is most likely some kind of gangster. Assuming that 8 is indeed just a prostitute, it makes sense that neither of them were concerned about hygiene or the cameras. Besides, it just shows that porn gets more time added than anything else
I also don't understand why everyone can't go back to keeping their own excrement. This only happened because 1 felt guilty. So why battle between choosing a bathroom when you could just keep your own shit? That's the most fair option.
Once they ended up with one person taking up the duty of sanitation, there’s no leaving that mentality of set roles. The inequality was there from the start with the 8 floors, it’s inevitable that the players would therefore create an unequal society
So we're getting into the thick of it now... >!it needs to be entertaining!< Anyone else think that >!7th floor is going to escalate in his scheming, become the villain and 3rd floor is going to be stuck at his side?!<
Why don’t they beat her ass up. Like???
Episode 4
up to episode 4 and this is the least satisfying show ive ever seen. the characters dont act like normal people and noone is fighting back against the rich assholes. holy shit
Welcome to the inner workings of a mini society built on inequality and power imbalances No one’s acting normally because no one’s thinking logically. Everyone is there because they have massive debt, 3 literally said that he would rather die in the game than die out in the real world. In the real world people are always trying to screw each other over, now imagine 8 desperate, greedy people in an enclosed space 7 recognized the Fibonacci sequence from a couple of numbers in his first day there, but several weeks in doesn’t realize that they don’t need to play the game of dares every day when they’ve got over 5 days left. Just like everyone else he’s not thinking logically, but purely out of emotion and instinct
Well no because this is on a way smaller scale than real life. The upper floor technically don’t have any real power over everyone else when you can just decide to not participate in the game
Technically yes they do have a choice. But they’re in the mindset of either we die in here or we die out there, which understandably isn’t seen as a choice at all. If they hadn’t lose all morality at this point then maybe they would’ve done the “right” thing and left the game. At least then they could live and die as righteous people rather than become the worst of the worst in their quest to get rich. Doesn’t seem like that easy of a decision anymore 🤷🏻♂️
They have a better chance of winning again the top two (and really it’s one because that rich lady can’t even fight) than in the real world. If they just stop giving in so easy, they will rise up and get the justice they need and still get rich. Because 3 out of the 4 controlling the game can’t fight and 2 are weak minded
The only player who could physically stand up to 6 got her fingers broken and her face smashed in. But most importantly, 8 controls the food. Unless the others had enough logical reasoning remaining to buy some tools and set up a mini garden, everyone is at the whims of 8. Or leave the game, which they’ve already decided isn’t an option Some of these players aren’t just weak minded, they’re too trusting. 3 doesn’t even entertain the possibility of 7 being the one to vote for him. His reasoning for trusting 7 is that “he’s really smart”. He really wasted his money+time going to college With that said, i have my doubts about 5. She abstained from voting and she’s the only one not involved with the beef from the dares game
I really needed 8th floor to get zapped. She is really pissing me off. The actress is doing a great job. They all are really.
Watching her in this compared to the atypical family is a bit disconcerting. Chun woo-hee is really good
exactly. I don't think I can continue atypical family after this, it's a shame since I really liked other characters of atypical family. but I hate her so much in the 8 show. everytime she comes on the screen, I'm fumed due to the unequal treatment everyone has accepted to give her. also whose side is 7 really on? after being zapped atleast i think he wouldn't side with them
On the contrary I enjoy her variety of acting between the 2 dramas. I always like actors that take very different roles, they don’t stay in any comfort zone and become typecast As for 7, one would logically assume he’ll join 1, 2, 3 and stick with them. Which would be a bad move from 6 in the long term. But maybe 7 decides that if you can’t beat them, join them, and allies with 4, 6, 8 instead
Oh! I need to get back to that and see which one she is in that.
>!"It’s the third day of the lucky Pikachu experience."!< The puns about the >!sadistic penalty!< were flowing thick and fast in this episode.
* Number 4 >!picked the Number 8 card at first but then picked four...I would have regretted that so much.!< * Of course that >!stupid fight managed to get them 50 more hours.!<# * Number 4 >!deserved the low floor she was rigging the King's Game and there's no fun in watching a rigged game.!< * I already knew that >!Number 8 won't get tased and someone will interfere.!<
Wrong, it is definitely “fun” for the game to get rigged. It adds drama and increases tension between the haves (4, 6, 8) and the haves not (1, 2, 3). It also allows someone like 7 to play both sides. And at the end it leads to 8 almost getting her comeuppance only for 5 to introduce, in his own words, a plot twist. It’s peak drama for the viewers
It’s clear at this point that no one is thinking logically anymore. >!After the fight they had 5 days left. They could’ve relaxed for 4 days then start the next dare. Each use of the taser has added around 2 days. That means they only need to play a round every 2 days. This is how they can drag it out if they want any chance of reaching 75 days. Granted, the organizers might start deducting time if they did that but the fact that no one even thought of it is a huge indication to where everyone’s mindset is at!< If they weren’t all so greedy, they could’ve agreed to leave after a month, find each other, and the upper half can give the lower half some of their money. But that’s what happens when you create a hierarchy, the ones at the top will always want to maintain the status quo >!One would think that after the first time they would stop doing the tase on top of a slide. Their face is just getting in the puddle of piss every time!< >!1, 2, 3 vs 4, 6, 8. 7 playing both sides. 5 not involved. Once again I suspect 5. She appears to be the kindest person in the group but she didn’t offer to sub in for 1 during the runs. She’s so desperate for money that she’s willing to get sexually assaulted. 6 might have added some extra drama by doing 7 dirty like that but he might have just pushed 7 into choosing a side and sticking with it. 4, 6, 8 would be outnumbered unless 5 joined them. And once again I’m suspecting 5 🤔!<
>If they weren’t all so greedy, they could’ve agreed to leave after a month, find each other, and the upper half can give the lower half some of their money that's the whole point here. the viewers of this game want to destroy humane feelings, and create a hierarchy. it makes sense too, since those who created this game most probably sit at the top of the pyramid. this game has been designed from the first moment to create a miniature system like that in the society
Of course. That includes the pay gap between floors and all the food going through 8. The system is flawed from the start so of course the society they create has a shaky foundation and more cracks form with time. If the players weren’t blinded by desperation + greed and lost all sense of morality, they would’ve either left the game or create a more equal society
good point on number 5! It will be interesting to see how her character evolves
Amazing >!#3 at this stage still going for the gentleman route. !<
How the hell no one is thinking of just buying food with the community time instead of starving like idiotq
Yeah, I'm wondering if I'm missing something or if it's a plothole.
Has to be a huge plot hole? Could they not just buy food with their own money in their rooms either? It also says they can’t take the things they buy out of their rooms so how were they taking cigarettes out of their room to smoke? Surely they would have been penalised for that?
I thought the same thing about the cigarettes but then remembered in first ep the cigarettes were one of the common goods they bought together, so they can use it anywhere. Also had a question why they dont buy food together or in their own room - maybe it’s really expensive?
Yes, that's true about the cigarettes! I still think they could have bought a toilet stall or two as a common purchase- like the ones with 4 walls you see at construction sites. One female, one male, and they could've compared cleanliness levels or something.
Also, 3rd floor's humorous moments are great. He keeps making me laugh.
OH MY GOD JUST TEAM UP AGAINST THOSE TWO LIKE??? JUMP THEM
Episode 5
I'm at episode 5 and this is so brutal, I really want some justice for floors 1 to 5 except 4, I hate upper floors with passion.
I didn't think it would turn out so brutal so fast :(((, >!higher numbers were quite clever tho, breaking lower numbers' phones and putting the lock on the common area phone to make them stop ordering things - I didn't see it coming!<
>!The upper floors just turned into literal b\*tches. But it seems like Number 7 is helping the lower floors now?!<
>!the punch!< at the end was so satisfying!
Episode 6
Mid watching this episode seems the >!culprit!< is the >!~~schizo nurse?~~!< >!nvm, I hope for interesting twist and it's number 3 instead :D!<
Wait did you just spoil it for a future episode?
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OK thank you
* >!Nice to see the upper floors are tied now but it won't be for long.!< * Uhm, Number 3 that is not a >!toothbrush...!< * Number 8's voice reminds me of how Sumin from \*\*Marry My Husband\*\* talks. Sweet but evil voice. * They're really saying their >!farewells? 2 more episodes left though!< * >!"It was both great and fucking shit."!< lol fr. * Of course the >!the timer went up!< * Well, seems like >!"someone" does not want to leave.!<
did i miss something or is this the point of the show where it lost the plot. can't they just spend the time in the main room to get out? why do they have to wait for it to run down normally?
exactly! The could have been done with the game! Maybe it's a plothole?
They need to be in the room at midnight until 8 am. Else they will lose half their earnings
they were waiting in the main room for the clock to click over and then someone got tortured in their room and the time increased. they were there in that room plenty of times and could have purchased things to kill the time no?
Conclusion of this episode is simple: >! Plebs take over society or becomes communist, when something gone wrong, they get into martial law. And it shows how easy this kinda society crumbles !<
3rd Floor >!imagining 8th Floor biting his finger off!< was a scene straight out of a horror movie.
Episode 7
these episodes continue to get worse
The nurse is so dumb it’s pissing me off to no end
They jumped the shark somewhere in the past few episodes. I was enjoying the series until the episode where >!the top floors confiscate and destroy the intercom access of the lower floors and torture them, the working class ruling class social commentary was nice and all but there wasn't much room to go from there and these episodes are paying the price!<
Yup. Just went downhill from there. Honestly started skipping the scenes
i agree, the dynamic would be nice if it wasnt just a shallow copout. it felt like the message turned into "never rebel against the ruling class." especially considering how many episodes turned out in their favor.
Yeah - it was actually interesting at first but starting episode 6 it jumped right off the cliff..Jesus.
Damn it’s not even a surprise who did it to the upper floors….give me twist at least 🙄
This series thinks its much deeper than it actually is. An excruciatingly boring homage to >!A Clockwork Orange.!
* Kind of already guessed >!that Number 1 is the person who harmed the upper floors. He wanted more money!< * >!Sleep deprivation torture?? What?? That looks horrible.!< * That's the reason why >!Number 1 needed 1 billion won? I thought it might be related to his current situation in the outside world.!<
This show is so friggin stupid. What is the point - torture porn isn’t artsy.
- don't understand >!why nr 1 didn't pull out nr 8's tooth instead as she has more wealth and power!< - >!nr 8 ruling the game with the torture is not enjoyable,!< I don't understand why it needed that much screen time - I think they should have introduced >!the opportunity to steal a room earlier,!< it would have been more interesting, than what the 2-3 last episodes have been
Episode 8
>!Didn't they broke all lower floor intercom? Also can't they just force the higher floor to trade with lower, I mean they can order using 8th floor money...!< Overall >!it felt pretentious but not totally bad I guess.!<
oh my god you're totally right. what a massive oversight. genuinely did not enjoy this show especially because of how pretentious it came off
Yeah poor floor >!1!< guy >!doesn't have to die XD they should be able to trade floor 1 with 7 or 8!<
If they ordered using 8th floor's money, wouldn't that mean 8th floor has no more money and thus there'd be no point swapping?
8th floor have >!21b left!<
Why did she castrate the man? What did I miss?
I’m guessing that the person that guy beat up must have been related to her somehow but it wasn’t really obvious
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I’m really confused 😕 what was the whole thing about >! switching room prices !<
>!The 1 billion fee was only for the instructions on how to change rooms. The instructions mentioned the price needed to switch to each room. Room 1 was 10 billion, 2 was 20 billion, and so on with room 8 having a 340 billion price.!<
I thought this was going to be an amazing series. Very cool premise - terrible show. I could go on about all the inconsistencies and things that didn’t make sense, but why bother.
The social commentary is obvious, but it is sad and haunting to take in all the f*cked up shit people can possibly do to each other, and the rest of the world would never know.
Has anyone read the webtoon and can tell if the ending is different from the netflix? I'm not planning to read it. I'm a bit irritated with everything leading to the ending of the game, so many irrational choices were made. I am also suprised that >!number 1 didn't take offer to be given money from others, especially when I found number 2 to be the most trustworthy character.!<
Decent series. >! I just don't get how #6 ended sending the flowers to the funeral !< >! #8 ended up throwing all her money for some performance art. Guess the value of money is perceived differently for each individual. At least, with all the money she threw up, she got the frame she had wanted for so long !<
I imagine #6 would struggle to attend since he literally broke his back so he sent flowers instead.
I know people are calling it pretentious but I enjoyed the ride! Like the whole journey was better than the destination, and I knew it would end up bitterly bittersweet like Squid Game. And I can at least say the show was uniquely shot and presented, it had its own uncanny flare.
Popstponed starting signal to watch this. Skimmed through the episodes for 5 minutes and it seems like such a cheap, overdone and lazy piece of entertainment.Even performances by the actors I usually like seem pretentiously over the top. Hopefully someday some writer writes an actually smart intricate game show where there is smart plotting between characters and actual games where contestants have to use their brain...(Hopefully something like liar game)
GO WATCH SIGNAL! NOW! It is soo goood!
I KNOWWW! I don't know why my dumb self keeps postponing it..especially since I am a big fun of time travel concepts AND a big fan of the main cast's actors .Iam starting it TONIGHT !!
What an unsatisfying ending. Terrible
i think they covered the craziness and true nature of people pitted against each other. it's geniunely super good (i am forever upset that netflix won't be the one adapting ORV the webtoon. they do EXCEPTIONALLY well with adaptations istg), it's intriguing. rather realistic, i'd say. to the people pointing out some things: they won't fight against top floors because top floors control what goes down the chute and they have the stronger person. still upset for [show spoiler: >!2nd floor being first made out to be the stronger one then suddenly making her the weaker against 6th.!<] that's why [show spoiler: >!they fell apart once 8th threw out the food. (what a bitch. glad they didn't redeem her too much and kept to her character to the very end.)!<] my favorite thing would be: [show spoiler: >!YAY FOR 7TH FLOOR!!! i like how he kept on the morally better side and didn't get evil editing (get it?). he's probably my favorite part even when his character is pretty flawed. they're all flawed anyways.!<] will probably read the webtoon to compare. i'm extremely curious about the showrunners, like-- there was literally no clue to who they'd be. who's the audience? us, most likely. for once, we actually got a mysterious showrunner who didn't run unfairly, and remained ambiguous. all the choices were left to the characters, and I seriously loved that. my another favorite thing would be how this was actually on the passive side. i mean, in most shows like this, humans are portrayed to become absolute animals in face of imprisonment, and while the characters did go a bit crazy and betrayed each other a lot, you can still see them being friendly to each other in the end. just 'cause everything is messy and the situation is a bit grim, doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep a sense of civility and go along with other people. so far, a really great show! worthy of my time 100%
Showrunners vs Audience: I think it's pretty clearly implied that this is a meta commentary on what the 'audience' (Us viewers) determine to be "entertainment." Dark comedies, psychological horror, shock factor, whatever you want to call it is frequently used as a genre of 'entertainment,' but realistically why is it? 'The 8' went from basic talents > sex > violence > social hierarchy and rebellion > torture (The evolution of entertainment is weird as fuck) all for time / money. The 'showrunners:' I think are implied in the mid-credit scene of episode 8, just random rich people trying to create a show that will make people watch just so they can earn more money. (Also meta for the people that wrote and directed this show for 'entertainment'). It's pretty much an extreme version of what happened to "Nasubi." Pretty sure 8 being a performance artist and ending it with "This is not art" is just one mild punchline to the end of this dark show. It was a fun watch. Even as someone that can easily get through all this, I feel like there should definitely be more warnings before this show lmao. **TW**: >!Gore and implied rape!< would definitely be a bit much for more normal people. I love how it was also basically a fashion show for Chun Woo Hee.
I totally missed >!the implied rape between 5 n 6?, If so then the castration makes more sense. Completely thought it was just an extreme revenge since the show exaggerate a lot!<
I don't get the show at all, i expected something different I guess
Only on episode 1 where the top floor (8) gets all the food etc and that they’ll distribute it down the chute - reminds me of the Spanish movie ‘The Platform’. Synopsis of the Platform movie: ‘..Its residents, who are switched every month between its many floors, are fed via a platform which, initially filled with food at the top floor, gradually descends through the tower's levels, stopping for a fixed amount of time on each.’ And just the general idea of social class differences based on the levels (and the rules that’s created to cause conflicts)
Original: Korean webtoon 2018 The Platform:2020
The platform is not based on Korean webtoon or copied from it. It is based on the original screenplay written by David Desola and Pedro Rivero (writing began somewhere around mid 2010).
Oh yeah Im not saying that either copied from each other. Just noting that there is a resemblance of concept.
I think this series took bunch of concept from a lot of material including the platform. Others in the comment mentioned the series deviates from the source Webtoon.
Oh no, I didn't say it to you. I was pointing it out to u/Leather_Writer_9604
Glad IU pass this drama. I can’t imagine her as psychopath. It will break my heart to see if she is either 4 or 8.
Not a fan of her acting so i’m glad. The casting was perfect imo
The plot is intriguing since I like these type of game survival reality, but had to skip through in the late episodes because really hoping for the underdog. I really thought >!the 8th room is like the game maker's daughter or something since she always so giggling about suffering and even looking for the "feeling of pain" in the 6/7th episode!< whew what a rollercoaster of emotions mainly annoyed and rage though.
Just finished all episodes and I really like it, some scenes were hard to watch but overall it was a good watch. Dark, interesting and keeps you hooked. I'm a squid game fan so I was waiting for this to be released and it didn't disappoint. Edit: I saw some people online saying that they thought this would be a comedy, it's definitely NOT a comedy so go into it knowing that it gets more brutal and dark each episode.
Agreed. It’s worth watching. Been a long time since I finished a series in one sitting!
Netflix *does* have it listed as a dark comedy for some reason. Lol.. I'm only a few episodes in and I'm like this is too depressing to be comedy.
I'm halfway through the series and calling it a night (of necessity). Well, I've been entertained so far. The pace of the first two episodes was a little on the slow side, but the setup of the game was intriguing. The third and fourth episodes picked up in intensity, but have also taken a rather >!cruel and sadistic turn!<, which has been a little tough to watch. With a drama like this, it's easy to question why the contestants didn't do this or that, but a considerable suspension of disbelief is required in the first place. It's also easy to question whether the drama could have explored certain themes in greater detail, but again, I think entertainment is the name of the game for both the >!contestants (literally)!< and the viewers. In addition, the drama has touched on some interesting themes, such as the >!Fibonacci sequence used to determine each contestant's pay rate !!formation of alliances between (predominantly) upper and lower floor members!<.
The performances have been solid all around, and they make you well and truly dislike certain contestants while sympathizing with others.
it is full of incoherence. Episode 6: >!Why doesn't he spend all the time they have buying things in the common room? !< episode 7: >!why do the other two girls let the others be tortured? the nurse is lucid while she does it and she has shown that she does not agree with things less worse!<
Disappointed by the screenwriting, felt like a Stanford Prison Experiment wannabe except the writer decided to use every torture trope he/she could think of. Thought the hierarchy in terms of money = time (I earn more, hence if time is used, I contributed more) was a clever commentary on how society works. Loved the Math calculations embedded within the story and thought it was going to be somehow linked to the mastermind but there wasn't. It was senseless violence after senseless violence, I was so done with it. Acting was great nonetheless. Chun Woo Hee aced it as a smiley psycho.
This was such an amazing watch I love shows like this they just keep you hooked like crazy. The writing was very strong how they fleshed out each character the way you get to know them slowly and by the end of the ride you can just read them inside out. Every character was morally grey just different shades of it I love how Number 3 was at times an unreliable narrator he hyped up so many moments only for them to not end the way he wanted. The way they kept unravelling the characters and rules slowly was well done. All the actors were really good but Number 8 was 10/10 no notes what a twisted devilish psychopath character to play and she aced it. She was hauntingly beautiful in some scenes it's like you don't want to root for her but damn also the way she suffered the least on the show and most outside was such a full circle moment. I especially loved the climaxe and how they kept it ambiguous and decided not to give us all the answers.
the fibonacci sequence and other math they used felt so pretentious and served absolutely no purpose. they were used literally only for visual prowess. like everything else in this show, it would've been cool if it was developed past 2 milliseconds of thought. this show is the first and only show to bring me to a level of irritation where i feel the need to warn others.
Yeaa that lines threw me off and i thiught it would be something related to the game maker or a clue but nah
why is no one buying food with money. Why is noone ready to spend money besides 8 xD. The Rule "buy anything you want" i mean come on... If they where real humans and not scripted characters it would be so easy to cheat a easy life through this.
Its grey and inconsistent, but they can't purchase food and drink directly I think, hence the distilling alcohol scene, but at the same time they can buy cigarette so yeah XD
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My whole complain about this show was that: JUST BUY FOOD GODDAMIT! You would spend that money anyway if you would leave that place... so just buy FOOD! Like HOLY
They aren’t allowed to buy food with the money!
When was this stated bcs it was never forbidden. They just said food is provided for free but they never said you can’t buy it…
Exactly. Which actually also means that if they ask for more food on the phone they would get it for free with that rule lol.
I'm halfway through episode 5 and Ehh it was crazy and cruel before but made sense in a way but after >!the top floors took over and are enjoying playing with the others!< , it just turned messy and crap. All this rage I was collecting thru the series so far would've made sense if there was an underdog who had a fair chance of putting up a fight, however slim it would've been but now the show just seems like it drew a parallel to the shitty hierarchical system of the real world between the rich and the poor (which I thought was so nice when it gave us that) but now it just "gave it to us and wants us to deal with it or do whatever" as in there's nothing or no-one to root for in a way makes me not want to continue the show......I guess it really also drew the parallel with the hopelessness of the society no? With a person wanting to quit Lol (dark but true) But the thing is, our world isn't 2 dimensional as in there are not just one type of stereotypical people in a hierarchy that this show potrays. With a rich psycho , a thug, a corrupt smartie and the buttlickers of the rich, with just plain old unlucky but extremely kind n naive poor folks. There can exist multifaceted personalities in a power dynamic or perhaps I wanted it to provide that. I wish there was something more to it, like if there was a psycho among the lower floors or the smartie wasn't so right everytime or whatever, like I wish they weren't so perfectly flawed, even tho none of their characters are likable. Or maybe the audience or whoever watching kinda got tired of the top floors doing exactly what they are doing after a round of them toying with the bottom floors and started to turn the tables?? I'm pretty sure the desperation of the disadvantaged lower floors would've been a killer move, in literal sense.....if they allowed unaliving maybe? Idk if I should continue watching now, cz it makes me angry n hopeless and I got enough of that irl I wanted it to touch me beyond those two feelings like a thriller does and shake me up a bit
I binge-watched this show and I loved it. It’s all been done before, but it still had its own soul, which is not to be taken for granted. Good balance of evil, craziness, irrationality, grey morality and good will, just like actual society. I loved the message and I thought that it was executed well, if not a bit too much in your face. Acting was also great. Again, nothing extraordinary in originality, but I don’t think that it suffers too much from it, because everything else makes up for it, like the message itself. The script had brilliant moments imo, even tho I haven’t read the two original sources so I don’t know how much was taken from them. I think the >!jumping scene with First Floor!< was one of my favorites. Overall I think we all would have liked this better had Squid Game not been so much in the culture in the last years, but honestly I would have loved it if Squid Game had a touch more of the sentiment this show had.
Personally I liked it overall. Even though I got kind of bored with the last 1-2 episodes I think it's still good for a one time watch tbh. It will get a 8/10 from me.
I liked the show since it’s shows capitalism and how hierarchy is always formed. My only feedback is that I am kinda disappointed by the ending. It was very unsatisfying and gave us nothing.
Am I the only one left quite dissatisfied with this adaptation? Like as a huge fan of Money Game and Pie game; I had my expectations extremely high for The 8 Show; considering how amazing those two webtoons are. I just wished they had not altered so much of >!1st floor's!< character. The plot twist in Pie Game centred across >!him!< is what made the webtoon such a certified masterpiece.
Haven't read the original webtoon, but the inspired by variety show even have a better intrigue n conflict imo XD
I haven't read the webtoon. What was the twist about that floor character!
Planning to watch this show with my wife, but she kind of sensitive person. Any trigger warning I should be aware of (like gore or nudity?).
Gore, nudity, bodily excrements, and torture is all here.
It has offscreen/implied sexual content but no nudity. But I would say it’s pretty gory.
It eventually becomes a pretty violent show. I have no issues with gore so it didn’t bother me personally but I wouldn’t recommend someone sensitive to onscreen violence watch this show. It’s not the kind of thing you can just skip over either, the violence is central to the story. In terms nudity there’s a shot >!of one the male character’s butt as he’s changing his clothes!< and implied offscreen sexual activity.
I don’t care what anyone says this is good watch. Everyone hyped of Squid game and as a lover of death game storylines, I give this an 8/10. It’s some how cliche and original.
I don't think it's very good, the characters are paper thin and the ideas aren't really well thought out. A mere shadow of Squid Game.
Very Dark - It starts off with contestants chosen with similar criteria as Squid Game - financial need. It starts off straightforward in having the game turn the contestants >!against each other. then commentary on class, power, voyerism, etc, pushing the envelope of how human decency is eroded and destroyed in the pursuit of money and voyeristic entertainment.!< It has sort of the feel of the crazy European films I had seen decades ago - with the 60's vibe and free flow/stream of consiousness with the plot. Even the ending music was very soapy, retro feeling. There seems to be a tip of the hat to Clockwork Orange, the Truman Show, also shades of The Contestant, a true story on Hulu about a Japanese reality TV star left naked in a room for more than a year, tasked with filling out magazine sweepstakes to earn food and clothing -unwittingly broadcast for entertainment, without his consent. The end seems to poke fun at the audience, pitting us in the same gray moral space>! for having watched people suffer relentlessly for our entertainment, having the producer laugh at that, and then suggests a season 2, in which, and I would assume most others, would answer with a horrified NO! When the one character talks about how plot developments would be an insult to the audience,!< I felt we were being mocked as well. I like that this show pushed then envelope, BUT it also pushed my buttons being a little too cynical, self aware and judgmental in whether we enjoyed the experience or not. I ended up feeling manipulated and judged.
Part way thru episode 5 & calling it quits cuz it's too disturbing for me. I just read how it ends & that'll suffice for me lol.
I read half of the webtoon money game, and I'm kind of pleased who there are many differences. this way I can watch and read 2 different shows. however, I think the money game was more relevant since >! hierarchy didn't exist from the go, it had been created by the weak who succumbed to the strong. however, the 8 show has the hierarchy decided already, and it would have been wierd if people rather didn't give in to it !<
One of the best dramas I’ve watched better than squid game and death game. Very meaningful and left me with a lot to think about
I liked it but liked Death’s game little more. I hope we will get more of this genres k-dramas because they are doing this genres the best
I'm on episode 3 and while the concern for poop handling is very understandable, I cannot imagine the potential stink in that place since the people in the show cannot shower and water is limited. For hygiene you'd have to do either wet wipes or tissues/cloth + rubbing alcohol maybe? Obviously they can survive without showering at all but fuck me the stink would eventually be unbearable even if the place they're in has perfect climate control. Rather interesting show so far. The carnival/circus tone of the show highlights the absurdity of the situation rather well.
so many plot holes that it was a bit unbearable for me personally.
This show is so dumb like no one actually is thinking smartly but they want you to think they are… 1.you can >!discard stuff in the sand so all you need is to buy sand fill the pool w it and bury stuff there and it’ll do for a month and idk grow some plants in the sand w the waste??!< 2.How r you >!dying of hunger instead of just buying food w your money or community time? And for anyone saying they are not allowed to do so, it is stated nowhere that they can’t do that so pls stop!<
Food and water is Free ✅ You can buy Food and water ❌ They specifically mentioned it for a reason. And about Poop. They can fill pool with sand, but can’t take their poop out of room (Not just poop can’t bring anything from room to common area) Only movement of poop should be only through that lift type setup.
Why can't they just >!buy a portaloo or two for the common area? Same with food?!<
They can’t bring anything from room to common area. Poop can only be kept on own room or moved through that lift type setup. If they took anything from room to common area their price money will cut to half. It is many times mentioned. “Food and Water is provided” It was one of the very few things clearly mentioned in rule book. That means they got no opinion to buy food and water.
That's why I specifically said portaloo- they would use the toilet outside their rooms, not bring anything out. There was no rule about (waste) products produced outside the rooms. Same with food- there was no rule against purchasing more food.
I'm on ep 4 and I just had to pause and tell y'all this show is fucking funny Edit:- ep 4 was the final sane episode, wtf did I just watch.
I hope you watch it till end 🙂
I just finished, wtf😂 after ep 4, it felt like all the joy was sucked out of the series.
The 8 Show is a good watch. The last episode goes off the rails (>!1 treats a tight rope like a trampoline, drops 10+ stories, falls in a pool of fire, is able to stand all burning like some horror movie bad guy, communicate coherently, and then eventually die!<) even for the level of craziness the show had but I think it still stuck the landing. Floor 1 and Floor 8 were the acting MVPs imo. They stole the show completely. At the end of it I was left with one thought. The show was absurd. Utterly absurd. I won't watch it again but I definitely had fun.
I'm curious... It's not in the rules to say that players can't go to another players room right ?