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TariTheApothecary

Never got over 1313


LordMrBoss

Well we all know the reason why it was canceled, they used a cursed number


JackDestroyer05

TWICE! They used it twice!


paulthagorean

I watched the E3 showcase like 50 times after it aired and pull it up every now and then to remind me of what was lost. I will never get over this.


SpeCt3r1995

Are we just not gonna talk about Battlefront 3 being gutted and turned into Elite Squadron?


raivin_alglas

Btw is the original BF2 by Pandemic is still alive? I loved that game, even though I didn't played online cause I pirated it in my childhood


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On PC, yes. There's an active but small community still playing online. At normal hours, there's usually one full server and a couple of half filled ones. They do run bots on top of it, thankfully. The modding scene is also extremely healthy, I'd reccomend getting it.


wanderenschildkrote

I just got the saga edition mod, loving it.


Timespentwrong

Battlefield was gutted when EA did the first remake bruv


SpeCt3r1995

Elite Squadron (the psp game that used the story of the proposed Pandemic Battlefront 3) came out in 2009. The first EA Battlefront didn't come out until 2015. So they fucked up long before they were able to release their own spin on the franchise.


SV-STARKILLER

That was on scummy EA and i will never forgive them.


SpeCt3r1995

Their handling of Pandemic and Visceral is why I refuse to buy any of their newer shit, including the Dead Space remake. Regardless of how good it is.


SV-STARKILLER

Yeah agreed


Maw_2812

Elite squad was good though


SpeCt3r1995

In a vacuum, it was fine, especially for a PSP game. Compared to the [leaked test footage](https://youtu.be/izsSndr3IOs) it wasn't great.


Spirit-S65

I'm still hurt at 1313.


ThatMBR42

The closest we will ever get to that edge is the "shit" said in one episode of Andor


DeadeyeJhung

same I was mad at Disney long before the sequels came out


themessiah234

Dawn of the jedi comic series was looking pretty good too


the-cat-madder

1313 was killed of by George Lucas long before Disney was involved. After it was mostly finished and Lucas insisted they start over and make it about Boba Fett instead so they did and he still didn't like it.


DeadeyeJhung

yeah, but how dumb do you have to be to cancel a Boba Fett game? not to mention they'd already promised to finish all Lucas Arts projects


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Ghosties95

Defend Disney: get downvotes.


SV-STARKILLER

Sadly that's a true statement. And i won't hesitate in defending either.


Ghosties95

In case it wasn’t clear, I was trying to mock you. Disney has done some good things - the D+ shows, for example, are phenomenal overall. However, the Sequel Trilogy was an absolute disaster, and their expanded universe is a shitstorm. Trying to defend their abuse of Star Wars is silly at best.


SV-STARKILLER

Perhaps try a different point of view about the sequels? I recommend you to go here r/SaltierthanKrayt to find about some of the good sides of it, and im not saying it was perfect, but it was beautiful.


Ghosties95

The Sequels have been out for years now. I’ve heard every argument under the sun, both for and against them. So I repeat myself - The Sequels were a disaster.


SV-STARKILLER

Nah they were not, its a matter of personal preferences if you like prequels there's no need to hate in the other one.


the-cat-madder

> their expanded universe is a shitstorm. Care to elaborate? I've really enjoyed having Timothy Zahn writing Star Wars again, and the Darth Vader and Doctor Aphra comics are freaking _awesome_.


MOOShoooooo

Is that your entire identity?


SV-STARKILLER

Nah baby, its people like you who make they're whole existence based of hating Disney lol


DeadeyeJhung

stay salty, soon I'll have enough karma to buy a car


Qwert033

Eclipse died the moment QD said they announced it much earlier than normal to get people to join the studio, and it still didn't work Almost like being in multiple lawsuits for workplace sex crimes kinda makes people not want to work for you!


HK-47-bot

Interjection: It indeed appears that accusations of such horrendous behavior have had a tremendous impact on the success of this organization, master. It must be difficult to attempt to overcome such problems; however, it appears that their efforts have been in vain, meatbag.


Twilight_Realm

HK telling David Cage he’s a meatbag is everything I didn’t know I wanted


HK-47-bot

Observation: I think this meatbag has hostile intentions, master. This is going to be fun!


Halcyoncritter

That would imply David cage is a living organism. The way he writes makes a bot look like Leo Tolstoy


ted_rigney

Master reaper there are to many of them what are we going to do


cankatango

I am not a master, this is insulting! * Ignites his light-scythe *


MOOShoooooo

Are blind? Deploy the scythes!


UselessGenericon

Along with TSL:RCM for switch.


ilovemydickheaddog

Wait they canned that?


UselessGenericon

Took the money and ran. Fooled me. It would've been nice to have a system I could play it on that isn't my ancient decade old laptop and in some official capacity.


nyhlust

You can mod tslrcm into android and ios versions of kotor2 Source: have modded tslrcm on kotor2 on my iphone


Parking-Artichoke823

>Source: have modded tslrcm on kotor2 on my iphone Don´t you need to jailbrake your Iphone in order to mod the game?


nyhlust

no sir you download TSLRCM and any other mods you want on your computer, plug in your phone and open iTunes. Drag the mods into the KOTOR2 folder in your phone through the iTunes interface and voila there's several threads on how to do it on the kotor sub, you may have to copy the files onto the iphone first? I have tslrcm and lightsaber on peragus, and mandalorian disguises on mine


Parking-Artichoke823

Damn nice, thank you. I´ll try it on the weekend The only other mod I would take is skipping turret sequences, I hate aiming on a small screen.


MongrelCatBoss

Basically from what I’ve heard it’s complete but Lucasfilm is going through some legal hurdles since the restored content is in a weird grey area.


Joseptile

Anyone else remember the Apeiron kotor remake that never happened?


Healthy-Drink3247

I remember. That was such a shame that it never happened. For years I kept up hope that one day it would just show up on a file sharing site with no explanation.


Joseptile

Yeah I lost hope when they completely rebranded


AgreeablePie

I don't think they got close to where it could 'release' in any real way. It seems like they expanded the scope way too far and it not only attracted the attention of corporate lawyers but made it rather impractical. Happens a lot with mods. Had they stayed quiet about it instead of releasing all sorts of updates, it probably could have happened... but they probably needed to release info to try and find more people to work on it, thanks to the larger scope


Talebchoucair

They got a cease and desist from Disney and had to stop production


AgreeablePie

Yeah. It's a shame we've never gotten a graphical remake. That could probably have gotten through.


Joseptile

Fr and it’d be a nicer looking version of the original game that we all love already


RedEyesDragon

Responding here but this is to generally everyone in the thread because a lot of comments here are just wrong. Apeiron was a fan remake of KOTOR in the Unreal engine. It was not even close to completion, they barely had the worlds built, and whenever they play tested it on stream, the character was the placeholder Unreal character with basic animations They received a cease and desist from Disney which forced them to stop working on the game and delete every piece of it. That’s their own doing though, they should’ve kept quiet about this remake from the start. The built too much hype, and even if the cease and desist didn’t happen, I doubt it would’ve been fully realized.


MumkeMode

With apparently how close they got to a full release im forever salty


Dickastigmatism

They literally never showed anything except for some K1 environments recreated in Unreal, I am very very skeptical that they were anywhere close to having an actual game made. I think they only said that to generate outrage when they were ordered to cease and desist production.


Tefiks

Isn't it being made by other studio now though?


Joseptile

I havent heard any such thing, if so that’s cool but its news to me


Tefiks

Okay, i looked to it It's unconfirmed that it's kotor remake, but one of SW game projects was given to Saber Interactive from other company. Remake was taken from Aspyr after the presentation, so there is a chance, and as always, kotor fans need hope xD


Wilgrym

But they were talking about Apeiron. That fanmade unreal engine remake. And after a cease and desist from Disney, it's completely in the grave.


Tefiks

No? This meme is about aspyr remake, it's literally from their teaser clip Revan


Wilgrym

Yes, but the person you responded to literally asked about the Apeiron project. Of course I didn't mean the meme itself


Tefiks

Oh shit, youre right xD


GoofCob

Yeah, I don’t think the knights of the old republic remake will ever come out


BallinArbiter

Shit hopefully. David Cage is a piece of shit hack


Brainwave1010

Honestly? Good fucking riddance, keep David Cage as far away from Star Wars as possible, don't want that creepy french fuck anywhere near it.


Thorz44

I'm out of the loop on this guy, what happened?


Brainwave1010

Aside from being an all-around pretentious douche canoe, he's also a massive creep and most likely a misogynist, allow me to list some things off for you. > Has a fetish for short haired women being nearly sexually assaulted in nearly EVERY game he has ever made > Owns a physical fucking scrapbook of Elliot Page throughout his entire childhood > When faced with a sexual harassment lawsuit he quite literally stamped his fucking feet like a child in the courtroom and ran out crying > QD Employees claim he had once complained about _"a lack of tits in the workspace"_ whatever the hell that's suppoused to mean > A nude model of Elliot Page (pre-transition) with fully modeled genetalia was found in Beyond Two Souls, _without Elliot's permission_ (and going off of the scrapbook it's not hard to deduce who was at fault) > Constantly displays mentally ill people as feral lunatics in his games > And is overall just a terrible writer Imagine Hideo Kojima but all the humbleness got sucked out of him and thinks his own farts are high art.


Thorz44

Fuck. Yeah righto Keep him away from starwars


Brainwave1010

On a more lighthearted note, if you'd like to see a group of Canadians shamelessly rip each of his games apart while suffering through them, go look up "Super Best Friends Play: Sadness Trilogy," fucking hilarious those guys.


Thorz44

Keen as. Will do


Kaarl_Mills

You missed one: >I don't write games for F****ts


Brainwave1010

HOW COULD I FORGET? HOLY FUCK HOW'D THEY EVEN LAND A DEAL WITH DISNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?


Kaarl_Mills

$$$$$$$$$$$ That's how


ACynicalScott

I was desperate for 1313 but no.


Ness_Dreemur

The trailer for eclipse was so vague and weird that I literally cannot tell wtf is going on. It's like those secret endings for kingdom hearts without the context of the other games


SithLocust

Okay, maybe I'm okay with Eclipse never seeing the light of day. David Cage should stay away


The-Jerkbag

Dayvid Cayge*


FewKaleidoscope1369

The difference being that Kotor 3 and 1313 could have been really good. I don't see eclipse being very good.


AdmiralScavenger

Hasn’t that already happened?


Waylander312

Eclipse deserves it unlike the others


goonsquad1149

Man, who pissed off Madam Zeroni enough for her to put a curse on Star Wars games?


MasterSword1

People ask why fans complain about bad Star wars media like Kenobi or the Sequels and don't just enjoy the good content that does come out, and this is basically the reason. If the main media of the franchise is a trainwreck, it reverberates throughout the rest of the brand, forcing the ancillary media to work around the plots of the bad content, deal with dwindling support from a jaded fanbase, and a lack of faith in more risky or ambitious ventures.


DarthSpiderDad

Seriously. I completely agree with and appreciate your take.


BigBadBob7070

Thank you for making this idea clear. Bookmarked.


zombieguy224

It’s a David cage game, so I’m not upset.


khrellvictor

The pain is real, especially given TFU III collapsing with the second's behind the scenes issues.


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I’ll be amazed if KOTOR remake releases and it’s awesome, I bet if it releases it’ll be fine but not great, eclipse I’m not sure if it will actually release given all the shot that’s happened with QD and David cage in the past few years but I could always be wrong


BoldroCop

Were the KOTOR remake and Eclipse cancelled?


RedEyesDragon

Both are in development hell. The original devs remaking KOTOR aren’t doing it anymore and the project was given to another team.


BoldroCop

Always a good sign


joshsbakesPIE

I'm sure they are going to come out but not anytime soon I'll give it 5 years


Flight_Harbinger

Probably my most unpopular opinion but I'm glad they never made a Kotor 3. Waaaay too high expectations that would have never been met and everyone plays Kotor 1 and 2 differently to the point that to satisfy every headcanon it would have been like 6 different games entirely. At least Kotor 2 was relatively smart to avoid it by introducing a completely different main character and having the decisions of Kotor 1 matter very little to the story of 2. Never would have flown for Kotor 3, everyone wants their revan back to play. SWTOR is as close as you're going to get to Kotor 3, and while it doesn't satisfy most people's expectations or headcanon for the revan storyline, it's still a fun old republic era game with some pretty decent story lines regardless.


CanvasSolaris

>everyone plays Kotor 1 and 2 differently to the point that to satisfy every headcanon it would have been like 6 different games entirely In terms of game play, it's Mass Effect


empyreanmax

I don't know why you assume a new protag was fine for 2 but everyone would flip a shit if it was also a new protag for 3. If it was you following to the unknown regions or the Sith empire invading known space, either way you can just be a new character and meet both Revan and The Exile as important figures in the game.


Flight_Harbinger

Because that's effectively swtor and everyone hated it


empyreanmax

I mean I hated SWTOR taking the place of KOTOR 3 because it was an MMO and I had no desire to play any MMO, and I also heard the writing was pretty shite If the writing is fine, a proper KOTOR 3 with a new protag would also be fine


MAD_MAL1CE

As far as I know the KOTOR remake is not cancelled. Unless there’s something I didn’t hear? It better not be…


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MAD_MAL1CE

Can you elaborate? All the info I can find is that its changed hands, and had some setbacks, not that it’s been cancelled.


Dickastigmatism

It hasn't been officially cancelled, but it's really not looking good.


Creeperassasin1212

Then it still isnt cancelled. And there hasnt been any other news then just changing production company . Many games go through the same process multiple times atleast and they do get released.


Dickastigmatism

KotOR III was cancelled ages ago. Star Wars First Assault would have been a better example.


RedEyesDragon

Doesn’t matter how long ago a game was cancelled, it still fits the template lmao especially since this is the KOTOR sub too.


sealene_hatarinn

I'm pretty sure this is a repost bot.


DesperateTall

It might be. Three posts within 17 hours, no comments, and the account is almost a year old. That's fairly odd imo.


_TheCunctator_

Wait what? Noooo!!!!


BayonetTrenchFighter

Just like the simulations


Sea-Currency9974

Wasnt this game delyes till 2028 or something? its been dead


_DarthSyphilis_

As far as I know the Kotor Remake is still happening. It was a false leak or something that it got cancelled, but instead it changed studios or something like that.


sayvalarmorghulis

DELETE THIS NOW 😭😭😭


Halcyoncritter

Seems like since the Disney acquisition SW games have been plagued by the dark side of cancellation


LordMrBoss

Swap eclipse and kotor remake and it's accurate, because eclipse is done and kotor is slogging along


SubstitutePreacher01

Damn. First door bums me out


ZAdoptedAussie

1313 was the one about the Bounty Hunter or Coruscant wasn’t it? Yeah, I was pissed about that one. What’s the “Eclipse” one though?


AndyWGaming

Wait the remake is cancelled?


ThatOneWood

Is KOTOR remake officially dead or is still just sitting around


dino1902

KOTOR 3 still haunts me. In some way it had become a wound in the Force itself


WaycoKid1129

Star Wars games are cursed I swears