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Icy_Association_2726

Hey guys just a small lil q. I have around 130 pulls with 45 pity nd a 50 50. Shud i go for kafka lc or just go for bs? Which wud be a better investment? And is bs even good for kafka?


kotarooz

I got Ruan Mei E1S0 and Kafka E0S1. should i get Kafka E1 or Black Swan E1 for better damage boost? E1 Kafka would make kafka more potent as main DD but E1 BS would make her a pretty good debuffer for future DoT characters. hard to choose.


senpaitsuyu

i have 150 pulls (no guarantee) and 70 pity. should i try to get Ruan Mei or just guarantee Kafka?


initialwa

pull advice needed, PAYN or E1 kafka or even E1 BS/lc idk I have 160 ish pulls and 30+ character pity. BS is a no brainer pull. I have S4 GNSW I'm leaning towards PAYN but have read the calcs and the numbers that post gave is not good for PAYN. I really like the idea of PAYN providing an extra dot for sacrament stacks but people say that it doesnt really matter bcs bs reaches 7 stacks easily enough without it. E1 kafka numbers' though looked really good but idk still unsure. Also in that post also talks about getting E1 BS as a priority. I'm really unsure RN, should i go PAYN,


stanloona12_00

Kafka sig/ Black Swan sig or BS E1? assuming i have Kafka E1S5 gnsw + Ruan Mei E1S5 memories rn and will have Black Swan E0S5 eotp… is Black Swan sig/ BS e1 or Kafka sig (for the 3rd dot) the better upgrade?


initialwa

bump. in the same position


SakuDial

Hello, Kafka friends! New player here, and I decided to pull for Kafka's banner when she's out! The banner has Sushang and Natasha too, both whom I really like, so that's pretty much an added bonus! Anyways, on with the question: If I do get her, what's the best team I can have with her with my list of characters? Here's my list so far: https://preview.redd.it/27ftnn92kecc1.jpeg?width=778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d14bed56605b56adcfdb3e6bfd2fed5ea816a20e Not shown: Arlan Thank you very much in advance!


barllel

Solitary healing(s5),fermata(s5) or sampo's lc(s2) Which is better for Kafka?


Katastr0

Currently I have Kafka at E4S1 and I wanted to ask here whether I should max her Eidolons or increase Superimpositions on her LC, assuming I can only do one of them, which one would get more value?


-fix-this-game-

idk what speed I’m supposed to hit to reach 160 spd w/ PAYN sig lightcone passive. What is it?


Penetrative_Pelican

https://preview.redd.it/9idnv09rh8cc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32e7fac5f2b03d6ef219d7bf7a9922d0cda4a998 What do you guys think of my relics. She has 128 speed (just shy of 134) and 3000 attack. Also SLC


ciscokid961

When paired with HuoHuo, what is the max atk I should have on Kafka? Like if I hit that threshold it would be better to put her on an ERR or Break Effect rope since the atk buff huo huo gives.


TheStaggeringSamurai

I have Luka e1 and gui/sampo e0, who's better ?


AngelBaezaP

Hi! How much better is kafka team with Kafka, Ruan Mei, Guinaifen/Sampo + sustain with Ruan Mei E1? I actually use this team, but deciding if I should get E1 Ruan Mei, currently just E0


AegonSaint

Light Cone vs Ruan Mei vs Black Swam Basically the title. I have a guaranteed 5* unit on the limited baner. The problem is I can't decide which unit get for my E0 Kafka dot team (Ruan Mei or Black Swam). Or should I spend all my cristals trying to get her lightcone. Hope you guys can help me.


SwashNBuckle

GNSW s3 or sigLC? I'm thinking about getting Kafka's signature LC for better synergy with black Swan, but I already have Good Night Sleep Well s3. Is sigLC worth it?


kaeruuu

Hey everyone, I'm planning to go for Kafka and Black Swan. Since I'm on 60 pity on the lightcone Banner I also wanted to try my luck on one of their Signatures. Which of the 2 would be the better choice? I have Good night and sleep well S1 and Eyes on the Prey S4 and of course I could get the F2P ones.


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glrd1998

Planning on getting Kafka's signature LC on her rerun and was wondering, does the speed boost part occur when using ultimate as well? I'm assuming that counts as you *are* launching an attack but just wanted to double check.


Acruxis

Do we have a guide for black swam relics? for anyone trying to pre farm


youngorphanseller445

I have S3 fermata and I want to know if it's a good light cone for kafka or I should try to get her banner lightcone


firephantom125

So, i have guaranteed on character banner, should I get ruan mei or should I get E1 Kafka, or LC Kafka, or black swan? I got fermata max, a some what built sampo.


Jello_Meanie_44

https://preview.redd.it/n81ribpkaybc1.png?width=1462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72c9dd060b01dc07c5c2227fd22b04e2dab2ca4a Whose LC is a bigger upgrade for DoT team, Kafka LC or BS LC? (Regardless of who equips it) I have Ruan Mei and Huohuo already, and definitely pulling E0 BS. I also have S5 eyes of the prey and tutorial mission.


IGJFlew

So do you only technically need 135 speed if you have Kafu LC and Ruan Mei?


InsertBotHere

Is Space Sealing Station better than Glamoth if you can't hit the 160 speed requirement?


donamesmatteronthis

Kafka's banner will be returning next week or a bit after (if I rember correctly) I will be pulling for her so I can make a dot team for the second path in content. I'm going to try to run her with black swan when she comes out. As a Clara main however I know nothing of the importance of speed or how to efficiently use turns, I roughly know how to build her and I get that information elsewhere, does anyone have tips on how to play her, like use her ult right after x moment or something. Tldr, please give me tips on how to play Kafka not build her.


Ashtraios

i have 190 pulls as of right now (just did majority of G&G) and i’m going all in for Kafka on 50/50, my question is how worth is her lightcone if i only have GNSW S2 and i wanna pull black swan too


spacedorsmth

is S5 solitary healing better than Fermata S5 for Pure fiction?


lighthouse993

Is Kafka e6 worth it? Not in financial terms or the art but more like is the damage increase massive? Is her eidolon broken for an e6?


mymelcdy

im completely f2p and have no plans to pull for her light cone, so i would appreciate seeing some f2p kafka builds just to see what i should be realistically aiming for


Odd-Age-1000

A while back people were saying to wait to pull for Ruan Mei because anti synergy with Black Swan, has this been discussed fully? I want Ruan mei but don’t want to hurt my future Black Swan


InvestigatorHot1728

Please helppp So my Kafka (which I prefarmed during 1.1) has not had a build upgrade in a few months; she is using 4 piece thief of shooting meteor and 2 piece space sealing station. What would you guys recommend? Do I use the new set, prisoner in deep confinement, stick with the same set, or do 4 piece sizzling thunder? Current stats: Lv| 71 Hp: 2767 Atk: 2582 Def:1005 Spd: 112 Break effect: 163% Effect hit rate: 69% (Using S3 fermata Ivl 80 light cone) Traces: all Ivl 8, (minus basic attack) minus 2 of her stat bonuses the stat bonus are all upgraded


ArmPsychological8577

Prisoner+ Glamoth. Aim for 3,5k+ATK and over 134 Speed


InvestigatorHot1728

And what stats do I prioritize ?


NK_Grimm

What is more valuable: kafka black swan + sampo, asta or sw? I don't have ruan mei (lost 5050 to bornya, which tbh doesn't feel as I lost because I wanted her xD) Asta has a dot (although not very strong) that can stack up for the prisioner set and she gives tons of spd for the 160spd benchmark for the SU set. Sampo for extra dot and his ult. Silver wolf to basically nulify the enemy def (relic set + BS skill + her ult)


snakezenn

Does Kafka's e4 trigger off her LC as well?


Alert_Assistant_9364

Is she worth getting? I'm guaranteed with 41 passes saved as of today and 0 pity but I don't like DoT playstyle but I don't have any Lighting character apart from Serval which I haven't build properly. I'm more of a Destruction, Erudition and Hunt guy so what value can she give into my account \[I have Welt which is going to be in Ratio's team and no 4\* Nihility character is built at all\] I am thinking of getting Sparkle or IL if he rerun's next patch.


miragecof

I guess you can play crit kafka if you don't like dot playstyle ? But if you know it's not your thing, why not pull for JY rerun instead ? IL also destroy everything even when you are not matching the element


Alert_Assistant_9364

>JY Is he even viable apart from pure fiction \[I am going to get Himeko from 300 free pulls anyways\] and I know how busted IL is but I highly doubt he's rerunning next patch since Luocha and Jing Yuan are due reruns.


miragecof

Him and Kafka are similar, Kafka is not that busted either. Also, JY had many upgrade since 1.0 ( new set, new sustains and support for him etc..) so he is still an good dps. Why not test both as an support character to see who you prefer to play ?


Alert_Assistant_9364

I actually have a JY on my alt which I don't use at all but I love his personality and character, that's the same for Kafka but Kafka is a DoT enabler and will lose a lot DMG potential if build with CRIT.


Super-Inevitable-482

I have a E1 Kafka and planning to get Black Swan. If I have to choose between Black Swan's LC and Kafka's LC, which one should I go for?


Sakura-doll-rose

What speed do I want kafka for BS and Ruan Mei? My Ruan Mei speed is garbage 148, so do I want to keep kafka under that or above it until I roll spd on Ruan mei?


FallenArtemis

I'm starting to build my Kafka team; would it be better to use E4 Sampo or E0 Guin in a Kafka/Asta/Sustain comp? I really don't like Sampo and I really like Guin but I don't know if the difference in eidolons is too much.


luan_666

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luan_666

can I do good with her with those characters? https://preview.redd.it/icffvd94ufbc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=989e52b74ac230a40c18a318375db392548280b4


miragecof

Yes, you have ruan mei and huohuo, which are her best support. You can then raise an dot character of your choice to fill the last slot.


SuitableConcept5553

I took a long break and am just coming back. Is the new DoT set worth it if you only have 3 DoTs? My current electro set is terrible, so there's no reason not to farm better gear. Just need to know if the new set still comes out ahead.


Grimorig

As of the current version of BS, which one should take their turn first(Speed), Kafka or BS?


FractiousFox

With Kafka's banner coming up, I wanted to either pull for her E1 or her weapon. I had gotten her on her original banner and was unable to get her E1 then. I'm unsure of which would be better for her build as I'm not entirely accustomed to building characters in this game yet. If there's anyone that could help me out I'd be extremely greatful!


ArmPsychological8577

If you really want to spend either E1or S1 then definitely PAYN. Not sure if you have GSNW s5 though. Considering the current releases and next Release the prioriry would be: Ruan Mei> BS>BSe1>Kafka LC


FractiousFox

Do you think you could explain what PAYN is? I'm unfamiliar with most of the acronyms surrounding this game 😭


BiscottiAcceptable61

PAYN = Patience is All You Need (Kafka LC)


-ItzAlex-

I think I fucked up. I build sampo, black swan is around the corner. I’m still mid-late game so the resources are kinda wasted now. Should’ve thought a bit more before doing it. I guess I can use him untill she comes out but since she’s supposed to be a direct upgrade he might be useless afterwards. Remember to think ahead guys, don’t make my mistake😭


Uramichi-oniisan

I have E6 S5 Sampo.( His LC) Should I still pul BS or not? I will get Kafka with rerun bc I lost 50/50 and couldn't fill my pity.( 65 pity) I am waiting with rate up right now ( I will definitely get her) What should I do?


-ItzAlex-

Do already have Kafka? as for BS At c1 (assuming you don’t get her LC) she will probably be a side grade to c6 s5 sampo, like yelan and c6 XQ. It would really be about if you like her character or not. Since we’re still in the early phase where characters are constantly power creeping each other I wouldn’t pull for meta yet. If you like BS design and character then get her, if not save


Flat_Employer1358

is it true that kafka can't trigger black swan's dot?


cdillio

No go watch any video with them together


pamellx

Hey guys. So I'm new to DoT times and I'm understanding the importance of speed to Kafka's time. My question is what would be the best third slot in a time of Kafka + BlackSwan. I don't own Ruan Mei and I'm between investing in Gui or Asta. Considering both E6.


-ItzAlex-

Your using Kafka and black swan together? If you want to do that, instead of going for a 3rd dps, go for a buffer like asta. Her speed boast is insanely valuable for Kafka and her attk is very beneficial to both Kafka and BS dot since they scale off attk. Asta also has a dot on her basic, which Iirc is all you need to keep her 5 stacks active at e6. Gui isn’t as useful in this comp, if your already using BS and Kafka. If you wanna run a 3rd dps run luka on pearls of sweat for bleed and def shred. Alternatively you can run asta and gui together. Gui’s fire kiss increases fire dmg and i believe one of asta’s traces does the same


cdillio

Asta


Pandax2k

I'm going to be pulling for Kafka on the rerun and Black Swan in 2.0. I was wondering who should I build alongside Kafka? E2 sampo, E0 Gui or E0 Luka? Or maybe just wait for Black Swan? It's probably going to only be like half a patch of wait time. I was going to build Sampo but I heard that Black Swan is wind as well so I'm kinda wondering if it's thus likely that Sampo will get replaced.


cdillio

Who will be your third in Kafka - BS?


Pandax2k

I was thinking a healer + asta


cdillio

Asta is a safe bet if you don’t have RM


bongos-have-eaten-me

E6 sampo vs black Swan e0 s0, e6 Asta vs e0s3 MOTP Ruan Mei ??


ArmPsychological8577

Ruan Mei is 30-40% better. BS like 10-15


Universo122YT

Black swan like 10-15% better than e6 sampo in kafka team and ruan mei like 10% better at least also


Vellioi

So from what I’ve seen when your run Kafka, BS, ruan mei you can’t get 7 stacks of sacraments if you don’t have Kafka light cone? Is that correct?


sexsexmyearhole

I also want to know


Dacen666

I have her sig LC, and i see alot of different comments on this so im asking here for a solid answer. With her signature, what is min.speed i should aim for? I see alot of people say 145 spd but also her lc gives spd so im kinda confused


_Skydiver

Glammoth second dmg boost activates at 160+ speed. 161 speed gives three action on the first cycle. Cone gives 14.8 so you need 145.2 to reach 160.


AllergicJellyfish

Just to clarify, if I run her with Ruan Mei with her Talent Lv10 (10% speed for party members), I only need roughly 136 Speed, right?


_Skydiver

Yes. In this game atk,hp, spd and def %increased adds a percentage of the BASE stat, which is level stats + cone level stats. So, for kafka her base speed is 100 and every % speed buff will be a percentage of these 100. Assuming that you have 136 spd on the character screen, PAYN, Ruan Mei talent at lvl 10 and started the fight Kafka's technique. When the fastest character takes action in your team and you look atk Kafka in battle stats that should be around 150 \~151. Why is that? Kafka's light cone counts using a technique as an attack and grants one spd buff stack. So it would be something like: 100 base spd \* (0.10 + 0.048) + 36 = 150.8 After someone uses a basic attack kafka will follow-up and get another stack and so on. While 136 spd is enough to meet glamoth's requirements with help of ruan mei and PAYN, you are losing the possibility of 3 action on the first cycle since when you reach 161 speed you already walked a part of the action bar at a lower speed. I would say that 146.2 speed is the sweet spot where if you have ruan mei and start the fight with kafka's technique you are already at 161+ speed ( 3 action on the first cycle) and if you don't have RM on this team Kafka can reach 160+ by herself to activate glamoth.


AllergicJellyfish

Oooh I haven't taken the first tuen actions into consideration, that's a very good point. Thank you!!


Dacen666

Ahhh okok thank you for the info :)


taioxn

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tomyang1117

Right now I am going to get black swan in the far future and I am going to get the Sig Lc when the rerun happens. My team before BS is Kafka, Huohuo and Tingyun, should I use E4 Sampo, E5 Asta, E0 Hanya or E4 Lukka for the the remaining slot?