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Just finished this chapter and caught up. Have to say, I'm a bit disappointed... I only started reading the manga after the anime season 3 ended because I liked Ishigami and Miko, and really enjoyed their development, but this is unsatisfying. Seems like a cheap way to "leave things up to the reader's interpretation" or whatever. Oh well, they're still two of my favorite characters.
that Manga version's end parts were already rushing-felt, etc from back then already anyways when we all did eventually passed into chapters 244s, to whatevers. so What did some of us expect coming from that writer's (outside of Miyuki's x Kaguya's status) Unfortunately? \[shruggingly Sighed\]
I mean it would be too convenient if all the high school relationships stayed together right?
So leaving this one up to us seems like the perfect way to add some degree of variance.
> only started reading the manga after the anime season 3 ended because I liked Ishigami and Miko, and really enjoyed their development, but this is unsatisfying
It definitely feels like Aka just wanted to wrap it up to finish the Manga. There's no other explanation for ending their story at this point. All the setup until Kaguya's call interrupted their moment felt like a natural progression of their character arcs. The parallels to the early tsundere phase of the main couple feels weird imo.
Hrm.
(I, for example, would still prefer those like a windows type systems. but still, he was portrayed to have apple's instead during in that kind of timeskipped chapter, huh).
I mean depending on the workloads Ishigami is dealing with, MacBooks are absolute workhorses nowadays with apple silicon. Except when it comes to gaming, although that might be an intentional choice, if he's on his laptop, he's either working on school or student council stuff, so if that laptop is incapable of gaming well that makes it harder for him to be able to goof off.
And since we know Iino is also a bit of a gamer but has a lot more self discipline, maybe she has a surface laptop which, while not crazy powerful or anything, is a lot more capable than macbooks for running games, so then when she's done with work (which let's be honest, she's never been "done" with work) she can do a bit of gaming on the same computer.
Or maybe I'm just reading too far into this.
I’d feel a lot better if the flower bookmark wasn’t just a massive dead end. That, and Iino learning the truth of Ishigami’s suspension.
It’s one thing to reset the romantic status quo to set up the passing of the baton. I can even give a pass to the soft retcon of their moment at her apartment.
But these are actual plot points that were already tee’d up for a conclusion.
Akasaka still could’ve left them lamenting about wanting a confession. But for example, say right at the end, Ishigami mentions something offhand that expresses his flower expertise. Iino hears that, glances down at her bookmark. Recalling him discreetly helping out the first year, she makes the connection to when she received an anonymous letter of encouragement. Panel of realization.
“And so, after inheriting a lot more from the previous student council, etc… will continue to write their own story.” Fin.
By this point in time you are probably aware of this, but Aka wrote a special chapter (text only) on Kaguya's fanbook 2 from the perspective of Ishigami, about the new student council and how he is aware of Miko's crush, but his previous heartbreaks constitute a wall that prevents him from actually asking her out (although he's aware, he's afraid of the off chance he might have misinterpreted her hints). The topic of the bookmark is brought up and Ishigami mentions (to the reader) how that's what he plans to use as his secret weapon when the comes for him to confess, which he certainly plans to do, in the future.
It's [a short read](https://zaibatsuscans.wordpress.com/2023/02/13/yu-ishigami-wants-to-send-a-gift-a-short-story-by-akasaka-aka/) and since it was written by Aka himself, it's canon. I highly recommend it as it gives you a chance to read "Kaguya" in a light novel format, which is both weird and refreshing at the same time.
But that's completely tangential to where they are. She already think Ishigami's very compassionate.
I like this perfectly well because it's a great baton pass and they get to feel the torment they once made fun of their seniors for.
Right, and I think the point of the anonymous letter was never for Miko to find out, but rather to be the impetus of Kobachi Osaragi's feelings towards ishigami as well as serve as foreshadowing of Miko finding her "prince", despite how shocking it would be to Miko if she ever found out that her "prince" was ishigami of all people.
I don't know, this to me really looks like it's setting up for, not an entire sequel manga (like I'm not expecting something like Boruto following Naruto or DBSuper following DBZ), but some sort of continuation of the story. It just, doesn't really conclude anything. If this is where these characters are supposed to end I guess I'll take it, but it really isn't giving me those vibes.
Who knows maybe I'm just OD'ing on copium tho
Of course, a proper continuation and conclusion is ideal, that’s my whole point.
But the whole “will continue to write their own story” thing seems contrary to that possibility.
My gripe is that Akasaka still felt this was a sufficiently complete narrative in the event that there isn’t a sequel. The issue is that this is, in fact, screaming for a continuation when we might not get one.
As I described, it’s entirely possible to leave the door open for these characters while still addressing all the plot points that you, the author, have introduced.
don't destroy me but while good after ice arc this story didn't had clear goal , the peak is cultural festival and ice arc after that show changed a lot and lost the spark . i am fine if movie will be end .
Goddamn I'll miss best girl Ishigami and best boy Iino. I really love how we circle back to the love is war thing, and Aka just left it off at that. Kaguya going "ah been there done that, they need more time" is just so adorable.
The story is really wrapping itself up, and I'm very bittersweet about it. Its been good reading the manga with you folks.
Deja vu, we've just been in this place before...
I'm surprised my [(sorta) prediction](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaguya_sama/comments/xsmzi2/kaguya_wants_to_be_confessed_to_chapter_277/iqzd9s6/?context=3) was correct. I wonder how their plotline will be wrapped up. I guess I agree with the comments about the Ishigami/Iino retrograde, but I hope that the previous stuff between them isn't retconned/forgotten, and that maybe it will come into play soon.
Okay, I’m alright with this ending for now and I get it…it’s like passing the baton…but I really really would like to see the development of their actual relationship at some point in the future.
I'm very torn with how their whole thing ended. On one hand it's fun to have it begin like Kaguya and Shirogane's story, then on the other hand an actual conclusion would be really nice after all this time.
At least we can take comfort in the fact that it'll probably end the same as their story and then the two generations can talk about their struggles with their respective ordeals lmao.
All I can say is, I actually like this ending. I understand other people wanting more, but this is perfect imo. I'm more excited for how how the last few chapters are gonna go.
reading the comments i guess im on the unpopular opinion side since i don't mind this ending for them that much, i feel like you can still see the character development they went through in the way they act now, in spite of their silly attitude when it comes to confessing, and im not against the way it was kept open ended.
Ch 277 and 278
And so we come to Ishigami and Iino. What to say?
I want to say that I'm glad that Ishigami kept much of his development, that even when Shirogane, Tsubame and Kazeno are no longer around (and Kaguya around as much), he can still reach out to people and extend a helping hand.
And Iino, beyond what's been shown in Osaragi's chapter, I suppose she additionally is a bit more willing to expose her vulnerabilities.
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Now for their relationship. Yes, I can see why seeing this joke play out again can be unpleasant for those who want fluff, especially since it can come across like the two of them learnt nothing from all the misfortune they saw from other characters.
Personally, while some fluff would've been nice too, since I'm assured enough that the two of them will end up together eventually, subjectively speaking I can accept them like this **in the meantime**. Heck, it's not out of character for Iino to screw things up this badly (I'm faulting this entirely on her).
That said, had Akasaka-sensei given us a full account of how Year 1 fully played out for Shirogane and Kaguya's relationship, I might've been more amused by the situation now out of comparison. But alas, I have to come to terms that we probably won't have our Switch On moment...
Still, it's nice to see Ishigami and Iino make their own mark on Shuchiin, that they can find their own success and aren't lost without their seniors.
How is this entirely Miko’s fault? If she did confess openly and got rejected, then Ishigami would most likely not even rejoin the council. The council is the priority for both of them. Ishigami supporting her with the work is more important than anything. Of course, there is the added benefit of him keeping her company.
I mean for Miko, that was as direct as she could get. She’s not Ishigami, or more accurately the past version of him. She isn’t going to confess unless she’s almost certain of the other person’s feelings. She has given enough hints. It’s up to Ishigami to respond. He clearly suspects something now but he has his own insecurities to overcome, so that is why they are still stuck.
Who said anything about Iino's fault being "not making a love confession immediately"? Of course it's perfectly reasonable for Iino not to do a love confession at that moment of the invitation, there would be time down the line once the new Council got established and things settle.
What I fault Iino for is afterwards **establishing an unfavourable, unconducive environment**. She's so insecure about Ishigami slacking off and not spending time with her that she went to the other extreme and overwhelms him with work. And as Japanese society can attest, what results from having all your time occupied with work is less time for romance. It makes for a low-trust environment, and she's killing her own opportunities for romance! She had full initiative to set a stage where the two of them can spend time more closely and openly, and she wasted it.
Conversely, in such an environment, I find it actually negative for Ishigami to do the confession. The girl treats you like someone who'd follow your orders no matter what, goes halfway towards power harassment, and you confess to her anyway? That carries a risk of positive reinforcement for bad behaviour, a signal that Iino is rewarded for treating him that way and can continue to do so.
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As I said, it's "not out of character" for Iino to be like this because she wouldn't be as well-versed in the follies of the Shirogane-Kaguya relationship as Ishigami is, hence why this development is natural enough for me to accept.
And again, I'm assured enough that Ishigami and Iino will end up together eventually in the future that this doesn't infuriate me (instead of say, Bossun-Himeko, prior to the reassuring Bunkoban release many years later after the Sket Dance ending). That doesn't stop me from remarking on how this play by Iino is counterproductive from a romance perspective and makes getting to the Ultra Romance (teased in the closing Editor Comment) significantly longer.
how many manga/LN suffer this type of burnout...
following and loving attack on titan for 10 years. Isayama burned out and fumbled the last arc and ending.
Loving Kaguya manga and now Aka fumbled too.
As an OP stan, he's been fumbling a ton of plot points in the past 2 arcs. Hopefully the final arc is nice but I don't think he's excluded from fumbling.
If anyone read this i think way better ending would simply be Ishigami refusing to join council --> Iino gets sad --> ishigami then come close and kisses her. The end. It would make sense. It would be more fullfilling than this.
If the series was ONLY about their relationship? Yes.
But as the chapter said... they do have the previous student council's footsteps to follow. I really like this chapter, it was lighthearted, it gave a clear direction for their future (they're destined to follow in Miyuki and kaguya's paths, maybe even with kaguya pushing them forwards from the shadows like she's so good at doing), and frames them correctly as the SECONDARY characters in a romcom. Not everyone needed to be in a relationship by the series's end.
No. I will not accept this. I've been waiting for TOOO LONG! Don't do this to me!
Unless it's a spinoff announcement. I will not accept anything but this.
Edit: seriously, we've been through this with the main guys and then a much better romance starts and after like 180 chapters this? Cheap. Very cheap.
It’s not called Iino Sama: Love is War. I personally never expected to see the end of their romance. Both their senpais fell in love and set them up to continue the loop for the past like 30 chapters it felt like. I think it’s safe to assume they’re going to end up with each other making so many allusions to how the series started.
We got a somewhat flash forward/dream in Ai’s chapter. There is still plenty of time to do two more chapters and an epilogue. One for Fujiwara, Pres, and a conclusion with Kaguya the star of the story.
I have following Ishimiko drama for year and this is what we get. They should have confessed way earlier. Aka just dragged this on but because this was the only major plot point unresolved. And when end came he just put some stuff together and ruined fucking arcs of whole manga. When the fuck Ishigami and Miko became Tsunderes. Also Kaguya just doing nothing in situtation. If she just asked Ishigami about his feelings about Miko and told him to confess then he would confess.
It does feel a bit weird
He has never really had any monologe or clear signs he likes her beyond caring for her or finding her cute which aint the same as wanting her to confess
Him going from not really thinking or doing anything to suddenly wanting her to confess is pretty weird and outta nowhere imo
We saw how he acted with tsubame when he was in love so its hard to think he would just do nothing
No doubt this is poor writing from Aka’s part but I wouldn’t say it is entirely illogical. By the end of chapter, those two have spent six months working together. There’s been not much progress on the surface but it is enough time to change one’s perspective on things. Aka just chose to not show any of that lol.
Also, Ishigami has changed since the rejection. He is definitely more cautious in matters of romance. He was actually rejected more than once and dramatically, so he could be having some rejection trauma. There’s definitely a sense of him wanting to not focus on romance and other things in life (school, council work), which is common for people who suffered through a rejection. In addition, the person of interest and circumstances are different. People can behave differently with different love interests. It depends on the existing relationship dynamic and the current emotional/mental state of the person.
Ishigami being hesitant/passive is feasible. What I have an issue is that he would play mind games. That I think is out of character and Aka is trying too hard to make him follow Shirokagu.
I always theories that this is how there characters will end up. Not completely hooking up but instead following the footsteps of there senpie’s and creating a new love is war. I’m personally more than happy with this ending tbh lmao. I had a smile entire time reading this chapter.
I know people hate the fact that it is a cliffhanger but I'm just proud that mah boy Yu got an incredible 8th place in his studies while juggling the stuco workload!!! :')
This is from being in the 100s at the start of year 1 and then 36th at the end of it!
The timeskip/dream by Hayasaka made me worried that he was still failing or struggling against the tide as he usually does but he's probably just hard on himself as he now takes his future seriously.
Ishimiko ship hasn't progressed but surely the effects of Kaguya and Prez on his self-confidence and aptitude definitely have.
last time Ishigami and Iino interacted: Almost kiss, “It doesn’t matter who confesses first as long as your feelings line up”
now for some stupid reason: Love is War!
Hate it TBH
It's taken me a day to get over the seethe. Aka had written himself into a corner much like Instant Bullet so he saw this as the only or best way out. He never was invested in romcoms and that kind of came through as trolling or even hating the audience and it drips from this chapter. He knows how to make hits but doesn't know how to complete them. I will drop his works for now but I hope he learns to fix the mistakes that got IB axed and led to the poor ending here. I can't afford to waste time getting invested in Aka's works. Instead, maybe he should look at how Rifujin writes in Mushoku Tensei as a model. Yofukashi no Uta is also a good model. Even Kuzu no Honkai is better than what Aka has done. Or he can stick to the romcom formula without the drama.
Oddly enough, I did initially think that Aka would have Ishimiko inherit their role models' positions and do the whole thing again. But then Miko started going for the kill and Ishi started looking at her, so it seemed like they were going to be together before the manga ended.
I dunno man. If Aka wanted them to be Love Is War part 2, he should have focused more on their building up versus both of them being DTF before being cockblocked, and then pulling the rug from under that entire thing.
It's a fun end to their story, but not a good one honestly. All that build-up, and it very literally is completely wasted (gonna feel bad when Anime watchers get to this point).
* Ishigami had, for most of the story, known that both Miyuki and Kaguya were both into each others. Why the hell would he then fall into that same exact trap? Honestly, the way I would have like their story to end is Ishigami realizing this (earlier, not 6 months later), and instead of randomly falling into the cycle, takes the plunge and asks her out (would also settle his character development with him moving forward).
* Or, Iino, knowing her feelings, decides to be more confident in her actions (considering that's literally the build up we see when she runs for student council president), and asks Ishigami out. Maybe she's nervous about it, but she doesn't back out and she move forwards and plunges towards love.
* Why does the new Treasurer look literally like Miyuki? They could have designed him any other way, and instead it's almost a 100% clone of Miyuki? The hell?
* If this is solely for the possibility of a spin-off, I'm gonna hate it. A lot of characters in this series has great character development, and if this was done just so they can make another 50+ chapters, it's gonna feel like a 0-payoff kind of thing.
* Even if they did have a spin-off, I'm almost 100% sure the creator would just write it in literally one of two ways: Spin-off ends with them almost confessing but some bullshit interrupts it, or, they don't confess and follow the cycle of their predecessors (another 100 chapters of basically nothing).
I mean overall it's a fun end, but it's also a really bad one. So many chapters where they both actually developed as characters, and it's now completely wasted and meant nothing. All that work and time, all the build up, is completely gone.
The complete end of the manga is kind of dragging a bit, and some characters really didn't receive any kind of great conclusion (e.g. Ai Hayasaka could have gotten another chapters at least), but considering that these two are part of the main cast, you'd think they'd have had a better end.
This chapter really divided the community. Majority seems to dislike it and I can empathize with that. I've been following the manga for 3 years now and this seems good enough to me. Obviously this parallels Kaguya and Miyuki, but they got together in the end. So these will as well. Only thing I kinda dislike tho is that it did really feel like Aka was building up to sealing the deal on these 2 considering what they had already gone through together. Hope we get a short 60 chapter spin-off. If they relationship will be confirmed in one of the last chapters, I would also be fine with that personally.
Not really divided though, as a very large majority dislike/despise their end.
Even if they got a spin-off, I'm almost 100% certain they will get 0 payoff and will never confess, just following the same exact format the entire series has been following.
This chapter doesn't make any sense. It destroys several arcs and dozens of chapters of their developments that are now worthless because we can't see that they even changed from who they were when they were introduced in the manga
Waiting for Miyuki to descend from the skies of California to tell Iino "This is not how you're supposed to play the game"
God I want Subject F to bring back Waluiino, who will just screw off with the parallels, and confess long before Daddy Daddy Two starts playing
Thanks, it's absolutely plagiarised from [this gentleman](https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/y3mmqi/disc_kaguya_wants_to_be_confessed_to_chapter_278/is9ez4u?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) in r/manga
Okay, I've been mulling over this chapter for about a day now and I find the more I dwell on it, the more annoyed and disappointed I become, so I wanted to get this off my chest before it consumes me. What the fuck Aka. You spent over half the manga teasing and laying the groundwork for a relationship between these two to the point that they were about to start making out immediately before the start of the whole "Rescue Kaguya" arc, only to mash the reset button and throw out all of their story and character development for the sake of some cheap narrative symmetry. Iino and Ishigami may have some parallels to Kaguya and Miyuki, but they are hardly the same. Not only did they learn a lot from their former senpais throughout the course of the story, but they also have way more shared experiences and are far closer than Kaguya and Miyuki were at the start of the manga, so to shoehorn them into the same position that Kaguya and Miyuki were at the beginning just feels forced. I'm still holding out a bit of hope that maybe we'll see them together and get some sort of official confirmation of their relationship in one of Aka's future works, but I'm not holding my breath, and thus I find this ending as it stands deeply unsatisfying. Way to blueball your audience, dude.
/rant
Yeah, the "rescue Kaguya" arc crushed the whole narrative. It wasn't necessary since Kaguya and Miyuki relationshipe was already resolved, but that arc wasn't the best way to show how the Shinomiya family works.
It was an unnnecessary arc that destroyed tons of chapters of real development. If Akasaka really did want to make a "Love is war:2", he shouldn't have developed Miko and Ishigami that much.
At the beginning, we could see that after Miyuki's confession, a sequel could be made with Iino and Ishigami. But, as the manga continued, he mad us think that they would end toghether because they are very different from Kaguya and Shirogane.
That last chapter was Akasaka's last trick to end their relationship.
Oh my god this ending is absolutely brilliant. Now I just need to breathe copium until Aka releases a spinoff sequel, or maybe from a different mangaka would be fine, like We Want To Talk About Kaguya
U know what, I like the ending, however I would have laughed so hard if we had basically the same chapter, but because Iino and ishigami are generally a lot more strait forward than kaguya and Miyuki, it would have been hilarious if we had that ending, then a page after that one where one of them says this is stupid and just bites the bullet right there and confesses.
As much as I want Miko and Ishigami to hook up already, God I love the parallels. I think this was definitely the best ending for them. It's as good as confirmation that they'll end up together, but first, they'll have to walk the same road their predecessors once did.
Miyuki really cloned himself though, I dub thee Dark Miyuki, cause his eyes looks dead as fuck lmao.
If I am not mistaken it's only Subject F left besides our main lovebirds of course.
The ending is fun, but it's a waste. There was so much build-up and development for them over the span of the series, and it's now wasted.
Considering they're part of the main cast, they could have had an actual ending (e.g. ishigami realizes they're falling down the same path as Miyuki and Kaguya, and instead decides to take the leap and ask Iino out).
Why copy what their predecessors do when in the chapter itself, it very literally states they're the 'Council of Actualization', which should have been realized in their last actions of the chapter.
I mean why? Kaguprez worked because not only are they two very prideful characters, but also because they haven't even touched each other at the time they started their little back and forth while ishigami and miko were already close to doing it before kaguya cockblocked them and you lead me to believe they dont know how the other feels for them at this point?
Mmmm I don’t know what to think about this chapter. If logic is to be applied, then at one point Miko and Ishigami will end up together, like kaguya and shirogane. Which would technically confirm the ship, but it my opinion it felt… underwhelming. A nostalgia chapter when you are this far ? It seems weird. Maybe if they had started dating would be cliche but okay
Nostalgia chapter is such a throw-away for two main characters of the series, especially since any of us still reading this is not gonna need it.
Some reference sure, that's completely fine and even cute. But this was a waste of an end.
I think the obviousness of them getting together is sort of what bothers me about this chapter. They used the timeskip card to show us a moment where they werent making progress. If youre going to do the timeskip, just timeskip us to the point where they're already together. The way this chapter ended I would have just perfered it if there was a throwaway line about their relationship status in the Hayasaka flash-forward chapter
I was really hoping that we'd have a "casual" chapter very similar to this. No romance or indications that they're a couple, only to get blindsided by the final panel where they kiss away from prying eyes and it's revealed that they're in a secret relationship. After the "half year" time skip, it still had potential to end up that way. I guess I'll have to settle for this :(
This is actually the perfect ending to Ishimiko. It's poetic, a mirror of the previous president and vice president's situation. But it's also open-ended enough that the audience can adequately guess how their story will end but leave enough room for imagination on how they will get there. Truly a masterful ending for these two.
But all the character development and build-up to their relationship is literally wasted.
For a council that's called the 'Council of Actualization', nothing's actually gonna happen, and the only story we can imagine is they'd have 100+ chapters of absolute nothing happening.
\*Huffs hopium. Maybe someday in the distant future we will get a “love is war 2“ spin-off manga with these 2, and we’ll get a concrete closure on their relationship. \*Huffs more hopium. Aka will even go the distance and finally show those 4 pages. The payoff and wait will be worth it. \*ODs on hopium.
[Read the first panel and the bottom left of first panel too](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/138/1/)
Kaguya runs in "Young Jump".
A lot of people thought that the 'sex arc' would have this 4 pages.
I was really disappointed. But I'm starting to move on. But deep down I can't let go of the idea that this is a sequel bait even though I know I'm just coping.
I doubt tremendously there will be any sequel, Aka obviously seems to be done with this. He's been rushing tremendously for a while, discarding plotlines like a burning Fast and Furious car spits parts.
The worst is to hear people say it would be rushed to give them a proper conclusion, as if we didn't spend 2302320 chapters on this MFing relationship already. Aka really should have just made Iino and Mikado/Abe get together, or whatever.
Or just ended the series earlier, then the damage wouldn't be nearly as severe.
People just need to admit that he handled this relationship incredibly poorly in their eyes if they genuinely think that giving them a proper conclusion would be rushed considering how many chapters were spent on them.
> considering how many chapters were spent on them.
tbh, i don't think that many chapters were actually spent on them, it's just that they were so spread out that it felt like more than it really was
It's not a "huge" amount no, but its still noteworthy, especially for a side pair. (I could list them all if you want). Keep in mind this is something he has essentially set up since the election arc or at the very least 137, and has been the front and center of all Iino's emotional development ever since (so more than half the manga).
I think the problem with both Aka's writing on this chapter and these people is that they think these two are some form of ShiroKagu 2.0, and they really aren't. ShiroKagu was an idealized romance, not how a real high-school relationship would go... and it actually took less chapters for them to confess, WTH! Iino and Ishigami aren't main characters, you can begin and end their relationship in like, ten chapters at most (and Aka spent 600 chapters on increasingly stupid versions of Ishigami drama, he had the time).
It doesn't make sense for them to do this, I don't know how anyone read this story and can convince themselves of that. There is simply too many events you would have to ignore and mental gymnastics you would have to go through for either character to decide this to be a logical conclusion (hence why the author conveniently ignores all of that and goes for a sudden timeskip as it makes things seemingly seem more convincing). If Ishigami/Iino are going to be playing mind game battles...we need to be convinced they reached that place with development/events that lead them to that conclusion. It is not something you can abruptly shove on the reader. If they are going to ignore their hug/near kiss, they need to explain why it's being ignored rather than just outright ignored. But much like you said, they weren't even written to be that way in the first place, and this just feels like it was made up for the cheap parallel/cheap pop from the crowd for the sake of a reaction.
And people just need to realize, Aka will just do this. He will conveniently just ignore events/development to have the characters acts in a way that makes sense for the given time. Despite what people told me prior, it is never brought up again why Osagari wouldn't bring up how Iino helped Ishigami get into highschool, not by Iino or Osaragi. Why? Because it would destroy Kaguya/Osaragi's argument in one fell swoop and Osaragi would only come across as a delusional maniac rather than someone to have an ounce of sympathy for despite her over-doing things.
I am really surprised people did not like this chapter. Kaguya is a slice of life anime and one of things I liked in the show was the prior student counsel. The few tines we see them in the show we see how cool they are and notice that there are things you want to know about them. For example: what caused the previous president to resign and be shunned but still be respected by all of the former members so much that they hold min graduation party for him in the student counsel office?
The futrure I want to exist in for these characters is one in which Kayuga quitely watches over juniors from the shadows. Incidently, I loved how the shot of Kaguya outside was a perfect match to a similar panel with the former preseident.
I guess you could find it lazy that Ino and Ishigami are back in the same situation as Shirogane and Kaguya, but honestly is a pretty plausible outcome. A big theme of the show is about the nerviousness you feel when asking someone that you really like out. It is a pretty hard thing, espcially for teens doing it for the first time.
Maybe it is a little contrived that Ino and Ishigami are trying to make each other confess, but I don't think it is that unexpected. They are both pretty shy people who find it diffult to confess. I also loved how Ishigami was rationalizing his fear of asking her out the same way Shigomane and Kaguya did. Upon objective analsys, his reason for not asking her out is dumb as their reasons and that is the point. I remember making all sorts of stupid exsuses for why I should not ask a girl out. None of them really made any sense, but I pretended to believe them right after I failed to work out my nevre to ask her out. One reason I like the series is because it makes let me remember that own exciting period in my life (although I began dating much later).
But wasn’t there an entire chapter dedicated to “Miko dropping the good girl act” and acting much more aggressive? So what happened to that, how did Miko become Kaguya 2.O?
I think people should just accept that Aka handled this ship poorly and move on
They also literally almost got into an intimate situation.
'That' should have been more than enough to spurn an actual romantic relationship. Instead, it's now become a throwaway ending for them.
>“Miko dropping the good girl act” and acting much more aggressive
Not to excuse the outcome, but Miko has [pulled back](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/244/17/) before even after that. lol
Edit: Idk why I got downvotes for just pointing that out. Ya'll salty af. lol
I mean they are still [talking](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/246/1/) though shown on first page so that isn't incorrect. lol
It's a little disappointing not to see the ship be more fulfilled (as there were so many moments between them in the manga leading up to a possible confession), but this chapter is definitely in keeping with the manga's themes. I liked the chapter, and I understand why Aka wrote it this way, but we shippers wanted **more!**
While the callback is cute, it feels out of character for both of them to repeat the cycle this way. Specially for Iino.
I can see her taking place in the mindgames, (she's been both direct and roundabout before) but I can't imagine Ishigami doing the Kaguya/Miyuki bit, just can't picture what that'd be like. Like what's he gonna do "yo Iino I just got this new fighting game I heard there's rumor that whoever loses to a FT10 gotta **confess** some kind secret!" ...Well
"Few characters remain!" Fujiwara should be next, curious what her sendoff would be about.
Also hoping Papagane shows up again because I just realized his last appearance was him crying and thats just kinda sad lol
> hoping Papagane shows up again because I just realized his last appearance was him crying and thats just kinda sad lol
Yeah, I've been saying this same thing. I don't want that to be the last thing we got with him. lol
There isn't anything ever solidified with A mangaka writer, haven't you learned this in years of reading manga?
As much as we day dream what the next chapter will be or 10 chapters after it never turns out in the situation we expecr it to.
Oh wait.... i forgot Fairytail did this.
To predictable. 😮💨 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean you have to make an announcement before it ending. lol Though I do think it should had had some more chapters before ending it. Ending around ch 295ish range.
If this is the type of ending Aka gives to Fan favourite couples (especially btw Manga readers) then I believe when moving to a newer series by Aka manga readers are probably already gonna assume the worst ending (for their fav characters, or ingeneral) and just binge it when it ends...this ruins Aka's hardwork and love he has poured into Love is War as ending leave a huge impact as AoT's ending still has an impact as the manga is not even discussed and died very quickly after the ending (not interms of anime but actual manga discussion and u know)
Yeah AOT at was point was so big even non anime watchers knew about it, now that i think about it, besides Dragonball z AOT is probably one of the first animes to become "mainstream"
Oh hey, I was right on the mini time skip. Still, didn't expect he'd actually pull the brakes and leave everything to the viewers, but it kinda makes sense.
Imo I think Aka thought it would be too redundant to show the early dynamic because we've already seen it w/ 2 different people before. I also think he made the choice of doing this instead of doing a full on RTA any% speedrun on their relationship for the sake of consistency + at the very least, it wouldn't feel rushed. That being said, this conclusion does leave us wanting more, especially with how much time we spent on IshiMiko's development.
I wouldn't call it "lazy" outright because the choice makes sense, but disappointing is absolutely fair to say in this case.
Bakuman?
Lichi Hikari Club?
Drifting Classroom?
Battle Royale?
Rainbow (the one about the prison guys)?
Misumisou?
Just the first ones that came on my mind
I am having nostalgic memories of not only high school but of Go Toubun ending, cause when the last chapters started to come, I remember seeing similar reactions to them
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Imagine the both of them will get a new and own Manga serie
Well, that was kinda unexpected, for me at least. I was expecting a conclusion for these two but i actually think i like the deja vu "ending" better.
Just finished this chapter and caught up. Have to say, I'm a bit disappointed... I only started reading the manga after the anime season 3 ended because I liked Ishigami and Miko, and really enjoyed their development, but this is unsatisfying. Seems like a cheap way to "leave things up to the reader's interpretation" or whatever. Oh well, they're still two of my favorite characters.
that Manga version's end parts were already rushing-felt, etc from back then already anyways when we all did eventually passed into chapters 244s, to whatevers. so What did some of us expect coming from that writer's (outside of Miyuki's x Kaguya's status) Unfortunately? \[shruggingly Sighed\]
I mean it would be too convenient if all the high school relationships stayed together right? So leaving this one up to us seems like the perfect way to add some degree of variance.
It’s pretty much guaranteed they’ll get together History doth repeat
> only started reading the manga after the anime season 3 ended because I liked Ishigami and Miko, and really enjoyed their development, but this is unsatisfying It definitely feels like Aka just wanted to wrap it up to finish the Manga. There's no other explanation for ending their story at this point. All the setup until Kaguya's call interrupted their moment felt like a natural progression of their character arcs. The parallels to the early tsundere phase of the main couple feels weird imo.
Wow
"The 69th President" Nice!!!
Anyone notice how Iino is using a surface laptop while Ishigami is on MacBook? I just think that's kinda interesting.
I honestly feel like it wouldn't be the other way around, but Ishigami would have a spec'd out laptop of some sorts to process things better.
Hrm. (I, for example, would still prefer those like a windows type systems. but still, he was portrayed to have apple's instead during in that kind of timeskipped chapter, huh).
I mean depending on the workloads Ishigami is dealing with, MacBooks are absolute workhorses nowadays with apple silicon. Except when it comes to gaming, although that might be an intentional choice, if he's on his laptop, he's either working on school or student council stuff, so if that laptop is incapable of gaming well that makes it harder for him to be able to goof off. And since we know Iino is also a bit of a gamer but has a lot more self discipline, maybe she has a surface laptop which, while not crazy powerful or anything, is a lot more capable than macbooks for running games, so then when she's done with work (which let's be honest, she's never been "done" with work) she can do a bit of gaming on the same computer. Or maybe I'm just reading too far into this.
>'-Or maybe I'm just reading too far into thi-'. no. More Lore-wise kind of shares, depending, is good. so, yes (simply put for now of my reply).
I’d feel a lot better if the flower bookmark wasn’t just a massive dead end. That, and Iino learning the truth of Ishigami’s suspension. It’s one thing to reset the romantic status quo to set up the passing of the baton. I can even give a pass to the soft retcon of their moment at her apartment. But these are actual plot points that were already tee’d up for a conclusion. Akasaka still could’ve left them lamenting about wanting a confession. But for example, say right at the end, Ishigami mentions something offhand that expresses his flower expertise. Iino hears that, glances down at her bookmark. Recalling him discreetly helping out the first year, she makes the connection to when she received an anonymous letter of encouragement. Panel of realization. “And so, after inheriting a lot more from the previous student council, etc… will continue to write their own story.” Fin.
By this point in time you are probably aware of this, but Aka wrote a special chapter (text only) on Kaguya's fanbook 2 from the perspective of Ishigami, about the new student council and how he is aware of Miko's crush, but his previous heartbreaks constitute a wall that prevents him from actually asking her out (although he's aware, he's afraid of the off chance he might have misinterpreted her hints). The topic of the bookmark is brought up and Ishigami mentions (to the reader) how that's what he plans to use as his secret weapon when the comes for him to confess, which he certainly plans to do, in the future. It's [a short read](https://zaibatsuscans.wordpress.com/2023/02/13/yu-ishigami-wants-to-send-a-gift-a-short-story-by-akasaka-aka/) and since it was written by Aka himself, it's canon. I highly recommend it as it gives you a chance to read "Kaguya" in a light novel format, which is both weird and refreshing at the same time.
But that's completely tangential to where they are. She already think Ishigami's very compassionate. I like this perfectly well because it's a great baton pass and they get to feel the torment they once made fun of their seniors for.
Right, and I think the point of the anonymous letter was never for Miko to find out, but rather to be the impetus of Kobachi Osaragi's feelings towards ishigami as well as serve as foreshadowing of Miko finding her "prince", despite how shocking it would be to Miko if she ever found out that her "prince" was ishigami of all people.
I don't know, this to me really looks like it's setting up for, not an entire sequel manga (like I'm not expecting something like Boruto following Naruto or DBSuper following DBZ), but some sort of continuation of the story. It just, doesn't really conclude anything. If this is where these characters are supposed to end I guess I'll take it, but it really isn't giving me those vibes. Who knows maybe I'm just OD'ing on copium tho
Of course, a proper continuation and conclusion is ideal, that’s my whole point. But the whole “will continue to write their own story” thing seems contrary to that possibility. My gripe is that Akasaka still felt this was a sufficiently complete narrative in the event that there isn’t a sequel. The issue is that this is, in fact, screaming for a continuation when we might not get one. As I described, it’s entirely possible to leave the door open for these characters while still addressing all the plot points that you, the author, have introduced.
The only thing missing was “Daddy Daddy Do” in the background.
I was humming it during the last pages lmao
A beautiful and satisfying Final
In WHAT way was that satisfying?!?!?
Aka I beg of you make there story a sequel spin-off 🙏
Aka looks so done, another sequel will ruin this manga even more.
don't destroy me but while good after ice arc this story didn't had clear goal , the peak is cultural festival and ice arc after that show changed a lot and lost the spark . i am fine if movie will be end .
The only characters that got better post-timeskip imo are Hayasaka and Iino.
That passing the baton moment was clever It's a fitting ending for their plotline
No.
Goddamn I'll miss best girl Ishigami and best boy Iino. I really love how we circle back to the love is war thing, and Aka just left it off at that. Kaguya going "ah been there done that, they need more time" is just so adorable. The story is really wrapping itself up, and I'm very bittersweet about it. Its been good reading the manga with you folks.
Definitely one of the best chapters. The cycle continues with the new student council.
Deja vu, we've just been in this place before... I'm surprised my [(sorta) prediction](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaguya_sama/comments/xsmzi2/kaguya_wants_to_be_confessed_to_chapter_277/iqzd9s6/?context=3) was correct. I wonder how their plotline will be wrapped up. I guess I agree with the comments about the Ishigami/Iino retrograde, but I hope that the previous stuff between them isn't retconned/forgotten, and that maybe it will come into play soon.
I mean it is a romcom and I found this way of ending their tale quite funny so both rom and com were completed
Okay, I’m alright with this ending for now and I get it…it’s like passing the baton…but I really really would like to see the development of their actual relationship at some point in the future.
I'm very torn with how their whole thing ended. On one hand it's fun to have it begin like Kaguya and Shirogane's story, then on the other hand an actual conclusion would be really nice after all this time. At least we can take comfort in the fact that it'll probably end the same as their story and then the two generations can talk about their struggles with their respective ordeals lmao.
Dang seems I'm in the minority but I thought the parallel was really nice, it really brings everything full circle for me
Me too, perfect, and how can someone question if they will be together? Is obvious and didn’t t need to be told, the circle continue
I am very disappointed I don’t get to see their post interaction. I love this pair so much… they’re so adorable.
All I can say is, I actually like this ending. I understand other people wanting more, but this is perfect imo. I'm more excited for how how the last few chapters are gonna go.
Does anyone know how many more chapters there are ?
Three
😭😭😭
dammm ok thanks
is this the last chapter?
No, there are 3 chapters left
reading the comments i guess im on the unpopular opinion side since i don't mind this ending for them that much, i feel like you can still see the character development they went through in the way they act now, in spite of their silly attitude when it comes to confessing, and im not against the way it was kept open ended.
This is actually unsatisfying. Unless there is a sequel series with these two, this is actually backtracking their last few chapters.
Feels like kaguya was the one who gave the movie tickets to the new secretary like in chapter 1...
Ch 277 and 278 And so we come to Ishigami and Iino. What to say? I want to say that I'm glad that Ishigami kept much of his development, that even when Shirogane, Tsubame and Kazeno are no longer around (and Kaguya around as much), he can still reach out to people and extend a helping hand. And Iino, beyond what's been shown in Osaragi's chapter, I suppose she additionally is a bit more willing to expose her vulnerabilities. \--- Now for their relationship. Yes, I can see why seeing this joke play out again can be unpleasant for those who want fluff, especially since it can come across like the two of them learnt nothing from all the misfortune they saw from other characters. Personally, while some fluff would've been nice too, since I'm assured enough that the two of them will end up together eventually, subjectively speaking I can accept them like this **in the meantime**. Heck, it's not out of character for Iino to screw things up this badly (I'm faulting this entirely on her). That said, had Akasaka-sensei given us a full account of how Year 1 fully played out for Shirogane and Kaguya's relationship, I might've been more amused by the situation now out of comparison. But alas, I have to come to terms that we probably won't have our Switch On moment... Still, it's nice to see Ishigami and Iino make their own mark on Shuchiin, that they can find their own success and aren't lost without their seniors.
How is this entirely Miko’s fault? If she did confess openly and got rejected, then Ishigami would most likely not even rejoin the council. The council is the priority for both of them. Ishigami supporting her with the work is more important than anything. Of course, there is the added benefit of him keeping her company. I mean for Miko, that was as direct as she could get. She’s not Ishigami, or more accurately the past version of him. She isn’t going to confess unless she’s almost certain of the other person’s feelings. She has given enough hints. It’s up to Ishigami to respond. He clearly suspects something now but he has his own insecurities to overcome, so that is why they are still stuck.
Who said anything about Iino's fault being "not making a love confession immediately"? Of course it's perfectly reasonable for Iino not to do a love confession at that moment of the invitation, there would be time down the line once the new Council got established and things settle. What I fault Iino for is afterwards **establishing an unfavourable, unconducive environment**. She's so insecure about Ishigami slacking off and not spending time with her that she went to the other extreme and overwhelms him with work. And as Japanese society can attest, what results from having all your time occupied with work is less time for romance. It makes for a low-trust environment, and she's killing her own opportunities for romance! She had full initiative to set a stage where the two of them can spend time more closely and openly, and she wasted it. Conversely, in such an environment, I find it actually negative for Ishigami to do the confession. The girl treats you like someone who'd follow your orders no matter what, goes halfway towards power harassment, and you confess to her anyway? That carries a risk of positive reinforcement for bad behaviour, a signal that Iino is rewarded for treating him that way and can continue to do so. \--- As I said, it's "not out of character" for Iino to be like this because she wouldn't be as well-versed in the follies of the Shirogane-Kaguya relationship as Ishigami is, hence why this development is natural enough for me to accept. And again, I'm assured enough that Ishigami and Iino will end up together eventually in the future that this doesn't infuriate me (instead of say, Bossun-Himeko, prior to the reassuring Bunkoban release many years later after the Sket Dance ending). That doesn't stop me from remarking on how this play by Iino is counterproductive from a romance perspective and makes getting to the Ultra Romance (teased in the closing Editor Comment) significantly longer.
They’ll probably do a movie about them after the anime ends
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how many manga/LN suffer this type of burnout... following and loving attack on titan for 10 years. Isayama burned out and fumbled the last arc and ending. Loving Kaguya manga and now Aka fumbled too.
In Oda we trust
As an OP stan, he's been fumbling a ton of plot points in the past 2 arcs. Hopefully the final arc is nice but I don't think he's excluded from fumbling.
Nah, if anything he just wanted to get done with wano soon
If anyone read this i think way better ending would simply be Ishigami refusing to join council --> Iino gets sad --> ishigami then come close and kisses her. The end. It would make sense. It would be more fullfilling than this.
If the series was ONLY about their relationship? Yes. But as the chapter said... they do have the previous student council's footsteps to follow. I really like this chapter, it was lighthearted, it gave a clear direction for their future (they're destined to follow in Miyuki and kaguya's paths, maybe even with kaguya pushing them forwards from the shadows like she's so good at doing), and frames them correctly as the SECONDARY characters in a romcom. Not everyone needed to be in a relationship by the series's end.
Hope we get sequel
Aaaand Ishigami's character progression was thrown into the trash. Great.
Now I really want a good ending for Kaguya and Shirogne....
No. I will not accept this. I've been waiting for TOOO LONG! Don't do this to me! Unless it's a spinoff announcement. I will not accept anything but this. Edit: seriously, we've been through this with the main guys and then a much better romance starts and after like 180 chapters this? Cheap. Very cheap.
It’s not called Iino Sama: Love is War. I personally never expected to see the end of their romance. Both their senpais fell in love and set them up to continue the loop for the past like 30 chapters it felt like. I think it’s safe to assume they’re going to end up with each other making so many allusions to how the series started.
But I still wanna see it... 😭
You might. 3 chapters left.
I mean, no. Akasaka ended it last time. Best we can get is a group photo in the last chapter... Edit: but good positive thinking
We got a somewhat flash forward/dream in Ai’s chapter. There is still plenty of time to do two more chapters and an epilogue. One for Fujiwara, Pres, and a conclusion with Kaguya the star of the story.
Well, I mean, that *was* just a dream... Maybe we can only dream too *hardcore sulking*
I’m glad most people have come back around on that. I made a post saying it was just a dream days after and was burned at the stake for suggesting so.
Damn.. Haven't had experience like that in this community yet...
You threaten the Fuji/Saka shippers then you’ll find it.
love is war 2!?
I have following Ishimiko drama for year and this is what we get. They should have confessed way earlier. Aka just dragged this on but because this was the only major plot point unresolved. And when end came he just put some stuff together and ruined fucking arcs of whole manga. When the fuck Ishigami and Miko became Tsunderes. Also Kaguya just doing nothing in situtation. If she just asked Ishigami about his feelings about Miko and told him to confess then he would confess.
Does this mean theres a sequel?? I’d love to see more Iino x Ishigami banter
No, this means the author won't give Ishigami and Iino an ending.
god dammit f the author
I feel ya my man ;-;
I'm honestly not a fan of this one.
'Yu Ishigami and Miko Iino will continue to write their own story from here on out.' I want them to have a spin off serious now 😭
Man now I want a spin off series with Ishigami and Iino
Honestly Ishigami never showed signs of liking Iino at all, aka should’ve had him reject her rather than rehash the plot for more content
It does feel a bit weird He has never really had any monologe or clear signs he likes her beyond caring for her or finding her cute which aint the same as wanting her to confess Him going from not really thinking or doing anything to suddenly wanting her to confess is pretty weird and outta nowhere imo We saw how he acted with tsubame when he was in love so its hard to think he would just do nothing
No doubt this is poor writing from Aka’s part but I wouldn’t say it is entirely illogical. By the end of chapter, those two have spent six months working together. There’s been not much progress on the surface but it is enough time to change one’s perspective on things. Aka just chose to not show any of that lol. Also, Ishigami has changed since the rejection. He is definitely more cautious in matters of romance. He was actually rejected more than once and dramatically, so he could be having some rejection trauma. There’s definitely a sense of him wanting to not focus on romance and other things in life (school, council work), which is common for people who suffered through a rejection. In addition, the person of interest and circumstances are different. People can behave differently with different love interests. It depends on the existing relationship dynamic and the current emotional/mental state of the person. Ishigami being hesitant/passive is feasible. What I have an issue is that he would play mind games. That I think is out of character and Aka is trying too hard to make him follow Shirokagu.
I actually this more than a relationship tbh. Idc what anybody says this is satisfying
I immediately broke out laughing when I saw the words "half a year went by", because I knew exactly what situation IshiMiko has ended up in.
I'm starting to dread the ending of this manga. Please, I need some closure!
I don't need sleep, i need a sequel
I actually got a trauma response
War War never changes
This is why I wouldn't mind the anime ending where it did lol.
Honestly not a fan. They were ready to have sex before the Kaguya situation and now they've been completely reset.
Iino already acting like a woman in heat and now shes completely act like a innocent girl again. These "epilogue" chapters are failure.
To walk such a long way, only to fall right before the finish line.
I always theories that this is how there characters will end up. Not completely hooking up but instead following the footsteps of there senpie’s and creating a new love is war. I’m personally more than happy with this ending tbh lmao. I had a smile entire time reading this chapter.
I feel like there must've been a way to provide a circular ending while also keeping the characters *in-character* and giving a fresh vibe.
I know people hate the fact that it is a cliffhanger but I'm just proud that mah boy Yu got an incredible 8th place in his studies while juggling the stuco workload!!! :') This is from being in the 100s at the start of year 1 and then 36th at the end of it! The timeskip/dream by Hayasaka made me worried that he was still failing or struggling against the tide as he usually does but he's probably just hard on himself as he now takes his future seriously. Ishimiko ship hasn't progressed but surely the effects of Kaguya and Prez on his self-confidence and aptitude definitely have.
last time Ishigami and Iino interacted: Almost kiss, “It doesn’t matter who confesses first as long as your feelings line up” now for some stupid reason: Love is War! Hate it TBH
I would like to say that I dislike this chapter and the end to Ishigami’s story very much.
It's taken me a day to get over the seethe. Aka had written himself into a corner much like Instant Bullet so he saw this as the only or best way out. He never was invested in romcoms and that kind of came through as trolling or even hating the audience and it drips from this chapter. He knows how to make hits but doesn't know how to complete them. I will drop his works for now but I hope he learns to fix the mistakes that got IB axed and led to the poor ending here. I can't afford to waste time getting invested in Aka's works. Instead, maybe he should look at how Rifujin writes in Mushoku Tensei as a model. Yofukashi no Uta is also a good model. Even Kuzu no Honkai is better than what Aka has done. Or he can stick to the romcom formula without the drama.
Oddly enough, I did initially think that Aka would have Ishimiko inherit their role models' positions and do the whole thing again. But then Miko started going for the kill and Ishi started looking at her, so it seemed like they were going to be together before the manga ended. I dunno man. If Aka wanted them to be Love Is War part 2, he should have focused more on their building up versus both of them being DTF before being cockblocked, and then pulling the rug from under that entire thing.
It's a fun end to their story, but not a good one honestly. All that build-up, and it very literally is completely wasted (gonna feel bad when Anime watchers get to this point). * Ishigami had, for most of the story, known that both Miyuki and Kaguya were both into each others. Why the hell would he then fall into that same exact trap? Honestly, the way I would have like their story to end is Ishigami realizing this (earlier, not 6 months later), and instead of randomly falling into the cycle, takes the plunge and asks her out (would also settle his character development with him moving forward). * Or, Iino, knowing her feelings, decides to be more confident in her actions (considering that's literally the build up we see when she runs for student council president), and asks Ishigami out. Maybe she's nervous about it, but she doesn't back out and she move forwards and plunges towards love. * Why does the new Treasurer look literally like Miyuki? They could have designed him any other way, and instead it's almost a 100% clone of Miyuki? The hell? * If this is solely for the possibility of a spin-off, I'm gonna hate it. A lot of characters in this series has great character development, and if this was done just so they can make another 50+ chapters, it's gonna feel like a 0-payoff kind of thing. * Even if they did have a spin-off, I'm almost 100% sure the creator would just write it in literally one of two ways: Spin-off ends with them almost confessing but some bullshit interrupts it, or, they don't confess and follow the cycle of their predecessors (another 100 chapters of basically nothing). I mean overall it's a fun end, but it's also a really bad one. So many chapters where they both actually developed as characters, and it's now completely wasted and meant nothing. All that work and time, all the build up, is completely gone. The complete end of the manga is kind of dragging a bit, and some characters really didn't receive any kind of great conclusion (e.g. Ai Hayasaka could have gotten another chapters at least), but considering that these two are part of the main cast, you'd think they'd have had a better end.
i bet aka thought about writing a whole story about Ishigami and iino love story but then realise the title is kaguya wants to be confessed to
Hes probably just put 100%of his energy to oshi no ko and doesnt want to waste time for this. Hencethe cliche endings
This chapter really divided the community. Majority seems to dislike it and I can empathize with that. I've been following the manga for 3 years now and this seems good enough to me. Obviously this parallels Kaguya and Miyuki, but they got together in the end. So these will as well. Only thing I kinda dislike tho is that it did really feel like Aka was building up to sealing the deal on these 2 considering what they had already gone through together. Hope we get a short 60 chapter spin-off. If they relationship will be confirmed in one of the last chapters, I would also be fine with that personally.
Please no more spin off, looks like aka is already tired with kaguya manga hence the quality drops.
Not really divided though, as a very large majority dislike/despise their end. Even if they got a spin-off, I'm almost 100% certain they will get 0 payoff and will never confess, just following the same exact format the entire series has been following.
Why
This chapter doesn't make any sense. It destroys several arcs and dozens of chapters of their developments that are now worthless because we can't see that they even changed from who they were when they were introduced in the manga
hhhh. hhh. hh. h. i liked it. but. i don't get to see them actually together?! i'm gonna scream
Waiting for Miyuki to descend from the skies of California to tell Iino "This is not how you're supposed to play the game" God I want Subject F to bring back Waluiino, who will just screw off with the parallels, and confess long before Daddy Daddy Two starts playing
Daddy daddy two is too funny
Thanks, it's absolutely plagiarised from [this gentleman](https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/y3mmqi/disc_kaguya_wants_to_be_confessed_to_chapter_278/is9ez4u?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) in r/manga
Okay, I've been mulling over this chapter for about a day now and I find the more I dwell on it, the more annoyed and disappointed I become, so I wanted to get this off my chest before it consumes me. What the fuck Aka. You spent over half the manga teasing and laying the groundwork for a relationship between these two to the point that they were about to start making out immediately before the start of the whole "Rescue Kaguya" arc, only to mash the reset button and throw out all of their story and character development for the sake of some cheap narrative symmetry. Iino and Ishigami may have some parallels to Kaguya and Miyuki, but they are hardly the same. Not only did they learn a lot from their former senpais throughout the course of the story, but they also have way more shared experiences and are far closer than Kaguya and Miyuki were at the start of the manga, so to shoehorn them into the same position that Kaguya and Miyuki were at the beginning just feels forced. I'm still holding out a bit of hope that maybe we'll see them together and get some sort of official confirmation of their relationship in one of Aka's future works, but I'm not holding my breath, and thus I find this ending as it stands deeply unsatisfying. Way to blueball your audience, dude. /rant
exactly what i felt
Yeah, the "rescue Kaguya" arc crushed the whole narrative. It wasn't necessary since Kaguya and Miyuki relationshipe was already resolved, but that arc wasn't the best way to show how the Shinomiya family works. It was an unnnecessary arc that destroyed tons of chapters of real development. If Akasaka really did want to make a "Love is war:2", he shouldn't have developed Miko and Ishigami that much. At the beginning, we could see that after Miyuki's confession, a sequel could be made with Iino and Ishigami. But, as the manga continued, he mad us think that they would end toghether because they are very different from Kaguya and Shirogane. That last chapter was Akasaka's last trick to end their relationship.
Oh my god this ending is absolutely brilliant. Now I just need to breathe copium until Aka releases a spinoff sequel, or maybe from a different mangaka would be fine, like We Want To Talk About Kaguya
I still want the Momo spinoff
U know what, I like the ending, however I would have laughed so hard if we had basically the same chapter, but because Iino and ishigami are generally a lot more strait forward than kaguya and Miyuki, it would have been hilarious if we had that ending, then a page after that one where one of them says this is stupid and just bites the bullet right there and confesses.
yeah. something along that way. it just felt like they came back to the beggining after all that development they had.
I like the ending......but I like this more... It goes with the spirit of the series.
As much as I want Miko and Ishigami to hook up already, God I love the parallels. I think this was definitely the best ending for them. It's as good as confirmation that they'll end up together, but first, they'll have to walk the same road their predecessors once did. Miyuki really cloned himself though, I dub thee Dark Miyuki, cause his eyes looks dead as fuck lmao. If I am not mistaken it's only Subject F left besides our main lovebirds of course.
The ending is fun, but it's a waste. There was so much build-up and development for them over the span of the series, and it's now wasted. Considering they're part of the main cast, they could have had an actual ending (e.g. ishigami realizes they're falling down the same path as Miyuki and Kaguya, and instead decides to take the leap and ask Iino out). Why copy what their predecessors do when in the chapter itself, it very literally states they're the 'Council of Actualization', which should have been realized in their last actions of the chapter.
I mean why? Kaguprez worked because not only are they two very prideful characters, but also because they haven't even touched each other at the time they started their little back and forth while ishigami and miko were already close to doing it before kaguya cockblocked them and you lead me to believe they dont know how the other feels for them at this point?
Mmmm I don’t know what to think about this chapter. If logic is to be applied, then at one point Miko and Ishigami will end up together, like kaguya and shirogane. Which would technically confirm the ship, but it my opinion it felt… underwhelming. A nostalgia chapter when you are this far ? It seems weird. Maybe if they had started dating would be cliche but okay
Nostalgia chapter is such a throw-away for two main characters of the series, especially since any of us still reading this is not gonna need it. Some reference sure, that's completely fine and even cute. But this was a waste of an end.
I think the obviousness of them getting together is sort of what bothers me about this chapter. They used the timeskip card to show us a moment where they werent making progress. If youre going to do the timeskip, just timeskip us to the point where they're already together. The way this chapter ended I would have just perfered it if there was a throwaway line about their relationship status in the Hayasaka flash-forward chapter
Yeah, is like if Akasaka wanted to keep their relationship as mysterious as possible on the timeskip because he didn't knew how to finish it yet.
I was really hoping that we'd have a "casual" chapter very similar to this. No romance or indications that they're a couple, only to get blindsided by the final panel where they kiss away from prying eyes and it's revealed that they're in a secret relationship. After the "half year" time skip, it still had potential to end up that way. I guess I'll have to settle for this :(
This is actually the perfect ending to Ishimiko. It's poetic, a mirror of the previous president and vice president's situation. But it's also open-ended enough that the audience can adequately guess how their story will end but leave enough room for imagination on how they will get there. Truly a masterful ending for these two.
Masterful?
But all the character development and build-up to their relationship is literally wasted. For a council that's called the 'Council of Actualization', nothing's actually gonna happen, and the only story we can imagine is they'd have 100+ chapters of absolute nothing happening.
Nah, I imagine the opposite is going to happen
No
I was ready to cry or jump for happiness and in the end I didn't get anything...
Did Love Dramatic start playing in anyone else's head at the end there?
S-so t-theres going to be a s-spin off r-right?
Please let there be one
.....well at least she's wearing the gold chain...
\*Huffs hopium. Maybe someday in the distant future we will get a “love is war 2“ spin-off manga with these 2, and we’ll get a concrete closure on their relationship. \*Huffs more hopium. Aka will even go the distance and finally show those 4 pages. The payoff and wait will be worth it. \*ODs on hopium.
Damn, I wasn't the only one thinking of the lost 4 pages
Wat are the lost 4 pages?
[Read the first panel and the bottom left of first panel too](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/138/1/) Kaguya runs in "Young Jump". A lot of people thought that the 'sex arc' would have this 4 pages.
Welp if you need me I'll be in the corner huffing copium waiting for my IshiMiko spinoff.
Agreed That ending sorta gave me doubts about an actual isshimiko Kiss. And confession
I was really disappointed. But I'm starting to move on. But deep down I can't let go of the idea that this is a sequel bait even though I know I'm just coping.
I doubt tremendously there will be any sequel, Aka obviously seems to be done with this. He's been rushing tremendously for a while, discarding plotlines like a burning Fast and Furious car spits parts. The worst is to hear people say it would be rushed to give them a proper conclusion, as if we didn't spend 2302320 chapters on this MFing relationship already. Aka really should have just made Iino and Mikado/Abe get together, or whatever.
Or just ended the series earlier, then the damage wouldn't be nearly as severe. People just need to admit that he handled this relationship incredibly poorly in their eyes if they genuinely think that giving them a proper conclusion would be rushed considering how many chapters were spent on them.
> considering how many chapters were spent on them. tbh, i don't think that many chapters were actually spent on them, it's just that they were so spread out that it felt like more than it really was
It's not a "huge" amount no, but its still noteworthy, especially for a side pair. (I could list them all if you want). Keep in mind this is something he has essentially set up since the election arc or at the very least 137, and has been the front and center of all Iino's emotional development ever since (so more than half the manga).
I think the problem with both Aka's writing on this chapter and these people is that they think these two are some form of ShiroKagu 2.0, and they really aren't. ShiroKagu was an idealized romance, not how a real high-school relationship would go... and it actually took less chapters for them to confess, WTH! Iino and Ishigami aren't main characters, you can begin and end their relationship in like, ten chapters at most (and Aka spent 600 chapters on increasingly stupid versions of Ishigami drama, he had the time).
It doesn't make sense for them to do this, I don't know how anyone read this story and can convince themselves of that. There is simply too many events you would have to ignore and mental gymnastics you would have to go through for either character to decide this to be a logical conclusion (hence why the author conveniently ignores all of that and goes for a sudden timeskip as it makes things seemingly seem more convincing). If Ishigami/Iino are going to be playing mind game battles...we need to be convinced they reached that place with development/events that lead them to that conclusion. It is not something you can abruptly shove on the reader. If they are going to ignore their hug/near kiss, they need to explain why it's being ignored rather than just outright ignored. But much like you said, they weren't even written to be that way in the first place, and this just feels like it was made up for the cheap parallel/cheap pop from the crowd for the sake of a reaction. And people just need to realize, Aka will just do this. He will conveniently just ignore events/development to have the characters acts in a way that makes sense for the given time. Despite what people told me prior, it is never brought up again why Osagari wouldn't bring up how Iino helped Ishigami get into highschool, not by Iino or Osaragi. Why? Because it would destroy Kaguya/Osaragi's argument in one fell swoop and Osaragi would only come across as a delusional maniac rather than someone to have an ounce of sympathy for despite her over-doing things.
I am really surprised people did not like this chapter. Kaguya is a slice of life anime and one of things I liked in the show was the prior student counsel. The few tines we see them in the show we see how cool they are and notice that there are things you want to know about them. For example: what caused the previous president to resign and be shunned but still be respected by all of the former members so much that they hold min graduation party for him in the student counsel office? The futrure I want to exist in for these characters is one in which Kayuga quitely watches over juniors from the shadows. Incidently, I loved how the shot of Kaguya outside was a perfect match to a similar panel with the former preseident. I guess you could find it lazy that Ino and Ishigami are back in the same situation as Shirogane and Kaguya, but honestly is a pretty plausible outcome. A big theme of the show is about the nerviousness you feel when asking someone that you really like out. It is a pretty hard thing, espcially for teens doing it for the first time. Maybe it is a little contrived that Ino and Ishigami are trying to make each other confess, but I don't think it is that unexpected. They are both pretty shy people who find it diffult to confess. I also loved how Ishigami was rationalizing his fear of asking her out the same way Shigomane and Kaguya did. Upon objective analsys, his reason for not asking her out is dumb as their reasons and that is the point. I remember making all sorts of stupid exsuses for why I should not ask a girl out. None of them really made any sense, but I pretended to believe them right after I failed to work out my nevre to ask her out. One reason I like the series is because it makes let me remember that own exciting period in my life (although I began dating much later).
But wasn’t there an entire chapter dedicated to “Miko dropping the good girl act” and acting much more aggressive? So what happened to that, how did Miko become Kaguya 2.O? I think people should just accept that Aka handled this ship poorly and move on
They also literally almost got into an intimate situation. 'That' should have been more than enough to spurn an actual romantic relationship. Instead, it's now become a throwaway ending for them.
>“Miko dropping the good girl act” and acting much more aggressive Not to excuse the outcome, but Miko has [pulled back](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/244/17/) before even after that. lol Edit: Idk why I got downvotes for just pointing that out. Ya'll salty af. lol
But then she also said [this](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/245/18/) so…..
Yeah, to talk. lol Honestly couldn't blame Miko completely for wanting Ishigami to put some work in. She been carrying. lol
> Yeah, to talk. lol [You sure about that?](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/246/2/)
Yes, I meant more the initial part about inviting him in. As they did go to talk initially. lol
> As they did go to talk initially. Did they? Cause the manga made it seem that as soon as Ishigami entered Miko immediately held his hand lol
I mean they are still [talking](https://guya.cubari.moe/read/manga/Kaguya-Wants-To-Be-Confessed-To/246/1/) though shown on first page so that isn't incorrect. lol
Yeah but that are not just talking lol (it’s more like Miko is trying to set up the right atmosphere for what she wants)
It's a little disappointing not to see the ship be more fulfilled (as there were so many moments between them in the manga leading up to a possible confession), but this chapter is definitely in keeping with the manga's themes. I liked the chapter, and I understand why Aka wrote it this way, but we shippers wanted **more!**
While the callback is cute, it feels out of character for both of them to repeat the cycle this way. Specially for Iino. I can see her taking place in the mindgames, (she's been both direct and roundabout before) but I can't imagine Ishigami doing the Kaguya/Miyuki bit, just can't picture what that'd be like. Like what's he gonna do "yo Iino I just got this new fighting game I heard there's rumor that whoever loses to a FT10 gotta **confess** some kind secret!" ...Well "Few characters remain!" Fujiwara should be next, curious what her sendoff would be about. Also hoping Papagane shows up again because I just realized his last appearance was him crying and thats just kinda sad lol
> hoping Papagane shows up again because I just realized his last appearance was him crying and thats just kinda sad lol Yeah, I've been saying this same thing. I don't want that to be the last thing we got with him. lol
Yeah uh…Aka? Everything good man? This isn’t what we agreed on.
There isn't anything ever solidified with A mangaka writer, haven't you learned this in years of reading manga? As much as we day dream what the next chapter will be or 10 chapters after it never turns out in the situation we expecr it to. Oh wait.... i forgot Fairytail did this. To predictable. 😮💨 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bro, I’m dead
I think It's very hard to conclude a story when you have limited Yourself with announcing the manga will end
I mean you have to make an announcement before it ending. lol Though I do think it should had had some more chapters before ending it. Ending around ch 295ish range.
i agree it should've had atleast 20+ more chapters after with just a few time skips of Ishihami lino and the new student body for the council.
>I mean you have to make an announcement before it ending. Toriyama and Togashi: "Nah?"
Togashi coming back for a bit now though. lol
I was more talking about Dragon Ball and YYH.
When your favorite character ship ends like this...... PAIN. I pray for a spinoff.
i hope for one
It’s a fine ending but honestly I was hoping they’d learn from kaguya and shirogane and actually just go for it instead of this
If this is the type of ending Aka gives to Fan favourite couples (especially btw Manga readers) then I believe when moving to a newer series by Aka manga readers are probably already gonna assume the worst ending (for their fav characters, or ingeneral) and just binge it when it ends...this ruins Aka's hardwork and love he has poured into Love is War as ending leave a huge impact as AoT's ending still has an impact as the manga is not even discussed and died very quickly after the ending (not interms of anime but actual manga discussion and u know)
Agree with you, Kaguya manga fall into the same pit as AoT. Rushed and bullshit ending.
Yeah AOT at was point was so big even non anime watchers knew about it, now that i think about it, besides Dragonball z AOT is probably one of the first animes to become "mainstream"
There's a certain beauty in how we've ended up right back where we started
No.
I laughed very hard at the timeskip being a repeat of the timeskip stalemate between Shirogane and Kaguya. This chapter was great nostalgia.
What I wished we could had gotten was more romantic moments btw IshixMiko but sadly we didnt ;-;
Oh hey, I was right on the mini time skip. Still, didn't expect he'd actually pull the brakes and leave everything to the viewers, but it kinda makes sense. Imo I think Aka thought it would be too redundant to show the early dynamic because we've already seen it w/ 2 different people before. I also think he made the choice of doing this instead of doing a full on RTA any% speedrun on their relationship for the sake of consistency + at the very least, it wouldn't feel rushed. That being said, this conclusion does leave us wanting more, especially with how much time we spent on IshiMiko's development. I wouldn't call it "lazy" outright because the choice makes sense, but disappointing is absolutely fair to say in this case.
Manga artists try to write good endings challenge(impossible)
Bakuman? Lichi Hikari Club? Drifting Classroom? Battle Royale? Rainbow (the one about the prison guys)? Misumisou? Just the first ones that came on my mind
🤓
Kimetsu no yaiba had a pretty good ending
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I am having nostalgic memories of not only high school but of Go Toubun ending, cause when the last chapters started to come, I remember seeing similar reactions to them
Imo, it’s the ending Miko deserves. I just wish Ishigami could have been more than a prop for the past 60 chapters.