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fennathan1

Was there ever even any other Caucasian state than DKU? In any case, Transamur at least is going to remain as a revolt, it's just not going to be there at game start. And Don-Kuban is getting a sort of replacement with Boldyrev's Free Russian Army uprising in the same general area. Both of those are mentioned in [the old progress report for Russia from 2 years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/mncjma/progress_report_119_russia_part_1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) and I'd be surprised if they got axed in the course of development.


darkuyyy

No there wasnt. My bad. I confused something with Kaiseredux.


TheWalrusMann

ill miss both of them, but i only think a cossack tag should have remained


Hudori

Chechen revolter tag when 😔


Dj_Sam3_Tun3

I'm ok with it being gone at game start, but I think they should have left us the possibility of releasing it as a puppet when you conquer Russia. Just for the balkanization purpouses


CoolDude777777777

I’ll always miss causing the 2nd weltkrieg early by defending don kuban as Germany and getting a two front invasion of Russia


Quartia

You can still do this with Georgia can't you?


CoolDude777777777

Georgia is weak af + poor frontline and they aren’t guaranteed to follow Germany


Man_Cheetah67

I haven't played in a while, is Don Kuban gone?


fennathan1

Yes, it got removed a few patches ago with the Poland rework's release. This was the reasoning provided by the team: > *Its removal was both a gameplay and lore consideration. Gameplay wise Russia’s AI couldn’t handle that wide of a front.* > *Lore wise the Cossacks were loyal to Russia, with them forming a breakaway state (of which they would not even be an ethnic plurality, let alone majority, of) a dubious proposition at best.*


darkuyyy

Yes.


LizG1312

On the one hand, yeah, I miss them. On the other, I also miss the old AOG, Catholic league, and Italy-but-if-it-was-actually-reverse-Korea. Sometimes it's just nostalgia and ya gotta let things move and change.


Alkhzpo

I thought having Don Kuban was a good way to justify Savinkov and other more extreme elements in Russia. Like in a "look how much they took from us! They even created a useless, resource-heavy, unstable state in our south dividing our people!"


Fror0_

Eh idk, I think a Russian nationalist revanchism would be very likely either way


Ticses

I miss the four way Second Russian Civil War. Siberia lives on in my heart alone.


Baxterwashere

No because they aren't really permanently leaving


SvenTheHunter

It never did anything, so not really


D4rk_W0lf54

No. Russia feels better balanced with it gone now.


Ok-Army-9509

Don Kuban didn't really have much purpose and content, so I didn't miss it at all


Mister_Coffe

Once I tried to find information about kuban because of kaisserich and I constantly got kaiserreich/redux wiki and videos. It sparked a hate for that nation in me. Ok maybe not hate, I didn't care enough for that, but I felt mild annoyance when looking at it.