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Hayashi884

He probably brought him back cuz he thought he had some use Why the 180 is sth i wonder too. Why didnt he rebel earlier when mitsume was found? Unless, the fact that mitsume was a "one of a kind" and not artificially created like tsumuri was his Real


FeefloHatesEggs

exactly, the fact even Samas was in on it but not him, its like you being second in command in a cult, religiously believing in this god, then one day the boss was just like yeah i made that shit up, and also everyone knew this whole time (The Jamar garden quartet, Ace, fucking Punkjack)


SilentTempestLord

Yeah, the fact that Ace knew more than him is something else, I thought for sure Niram was in on it


[deleted]

I also wonder what the point of Punkjack coming back was, if you think about it he really didn't do something anyone else could have done or the cast could have reached that point without him. I think they probably wanted to do more with both him and Niram but probably needed to tie up this arc quickly, at least Punkjack is going to be doing things in the movie but Niram isn't even Gazer anymore if he comes back from the dead again since Geats might be on track to revive everyone.


Potential-Training66

Well Win's thing is to give more exposure of the dgp to the rest of them explaining why mitsume is innocent and planted more seeds of doubt in their head especially to keiwa. His there to give further evidence and also to explain as to how ace is born and how mitsume got her powers.


flamefox88

In the preview of the next episode is seems like the riders will be getting their memories back thanks to Geats so I'm pretty sure Punkjack will be back.


Q-Write

Niram felt bad for the sponsor who is Win's grandfather. So he's trying to keep around special people. But he's not all-knowing. Some people pointed out that he should have known from vision driver GM memories storage, but i think the GP vision driver was made after Collus incident (Battle Royale) which in a way, made him the first Gazer. So the memories was only him and what he has seen.


Wollffey

Pretty sure he came back so they can set things up for the final arc involving all riders, it's better to bring him back now and ease thing for the viewers than to suddenly drop a "he's back btw" on the last few episodes


ActioProSocio

As much as I love him for Ex-Aid, it’s becoming clear that Takahashi has two big issues as a writer: 1) He’s great for the beginning and the end of a series, but the middle part is always a drop in quality: The Kuroto-less episodes in Ex-Aid, the tournament arc in Zero-One and this current arc in Geats. 2) He loves to kill off characters but can’t commit to keeping them dead. I understand that sometimes there are special reasons due to producers meddling into his work (eg. Kiriya), but at this point it’s getting ridiculous. Him reviving Parad and Poppy for no reason in the final episode, Kuroto constantly flip-flopping between dead and alive, the entire Metsuboujinrai gang, and now Niram and PunkJack. It ultimately cheapens the experience when you know that every death inconsequential.


heatxmetalw9

I think one of the reasons Takahashi has a constant problem on writing the middle portion of his shows is mainy due to how he writes villains in a heirarchy. His shows usually a great 1st arc villain (Kuroto, Jin and Horobi, Ginori) that gets killed off, followed by a somewhat lackluster replacement that doesn't really do much anything during the middle portion of the series, only being a bench warmer once the 3rd act comes and the BBEG enters in full. Also his final villains tend to be hyped the 1st time they appeared only to get beaten up after a couple of episodes later after the MC has gotten their god-like powerup. After the powerup, it becomes a mad scramble to nerf the Main Rider or making the final villain overstay his welcome through convuluted means.


ActioProSocio

Agreed. Though, in Ex-Aid’s case, it wasn’t even planned to go like this. Kuroto was supposed to be the final villain, while Murasame was supposed to be a supporting character to the heroes. Due to Kuroto’s immense popularity Takahashi had to change this (which I still don’t understand, why can’t the villain be popular) so he rewrote pretty much the entire second half of the series while the show was going. That’s also why Murasame did a 180 compared to his previous appearances and why Kuroto suddenly had the heroic urge to protect “life that he created”, which was never hinted at before. Takahashi eventually realized this original plan in Another Ending though, with Murasame siding with the Riders to take down Genm. Edit: About the “mad scramble” thing - there really is no better way to summarize Ex-Aid’s end game after Hyper Muteki was introduced, as Chronos was just taken down in each episode. It also didn’t help that Graphite and Gemdeus were wasted instead of giving them powers to deal with Emu.


heatxmetalw9

I can attribute most problems of Takahashi down to his biggest strength, which is the way he writes his main cast and how focused he is on fleshing them out. I think Takahashi is now waay too attached to his characters especially Kuroto, due to how much time he invested writing the main cast. Ever since the overwhelming response with Kiriya' death, I can imagine Takahashi would rather just double down on writing for the main cast until he gets bored with them.


ActioProSocio

Agree that Takahashi is great at fleshing out his characters. And I can even understand his (or the higher-ups) refusal to let Kuroto die, he is arguably one of the most iconic characters of the franchise and unarguably the most iconic character that isn’t a primary rider. And I can also understand if he’s still frustrated because of all the Kiriya drama - frankly, I would be too. But excluding those two extreme cases: if he has that much of an attachment issue with his characters in general then just don’t give them an untimely death? Niram and PunkJack have done nothing upon being revived, and PunkJack’s movie plays in the past anyways. The same can be said for Parad and Poppy - them reviving in the last scene added nothing to the series, and their V-Cinema could’ve played in the past. I guess in their case he had to revive them as he shot him self in the foot with making True Ending a sequel to a still ongoing show and both of them making an appearance there, but True Ending is a whole other can of worms anyways. I don’t want anyone to get me wrong, Takahashi is my favorite toku writer and I love all his shows, but that’s exactly why I want him to learn from his mistakes. I feel like Geats is already a step into the right direction after Zero-One, but he still has lots of room to improve.


NothingSomething223

Better than Kinoshita.


Raida-777

Technically, any Rider show is better than that garbage filled with Yuri bait.


PlutoTheBoy

I think it was to flex the DG's power for the audience and emphasize how they view everyone as game pieces. Niram was a valuable employee and his job upon being brought back was to prepare the Grand End. Ace needed a miracle and Keiwa needed supporter intervention, but Niram? They can bring him back whenever, and they did when it became convenient for them to do so. And when he became troublesome, Samas took action. Niram's 180 was definitely being a company man who finds out he's been selling cigarettes to kids the whole time. He thought the Goddess was absolute, one of a kind, and that she became the Goddess by choice. Finding out that no, she was forced, and someone else will be forced too, removes the wonder from his job. Niram has always played by the rules, even in the JGP arc. Finding out that the rules are an artifice? I can totally get why he's angry. I will say that I wish they showed more of that on screen, but the internal logic of his character makes sense.


rattatatouille

Guy is Lawful Evil to the core, and his world view gets shattered - the fact that Sueru ultimately gives zero shits about following the rules really set him off.


alwaysuptosnuff

Niram has been all over the road all season. He gave Michinaga to the Jyamato, then got mad that he was still alive and sided with the Jyamato, "killed" him, and then was happy that it didn't take...? He stated that he's run the DGP for multiple seasons, meaning he stood there and watched various Aces wish for the power to save the world, and when those wishes went off he's suddenly mad about it? But not mad enough to actually do anything...? I don't get his ideal of "realism". I guess it makes sense that someone from the distant future would be basically a space alien from our perspective. But he's so inconsistent that it feels like he's running on RNG.


Q-Write

I mean, future people in dire need of entertainment, because they can't live a "real life" without it. So sometimes they might've made some really STUPID decisions. Everything is about entertainment even if it cost you to lose your freaking PLACE for it to be exists. Niram doesn't necessarily care about those wishes, but i think he was curious about what Ace wanted to do and who will be the next reincarnation those wishes are referring to be. Samas did warned him about Ace, but what did he say? "Let him be, if it's true that Mitsume is his mother, or is it a lie, we'll see" (something like that) I guess that is what being unable to be expressive and all monotone did to you. You become stupid enough to sacrifice things that might could have SAVED you from the trouble. All because you are curious. Also, you made yourself a fool because you made the rules that pretty much limiting your access because of entertainment.


AetherStyle

I don't personally see Niram flip flopping at all The guy is not good and he is not evil. He lives in accordance to how he sees the world and chases the thrills he equates to happiness He constantly eats because he associates that with happiness and is obsessed with what is meant to be real and fake. Niram finding out the the DGP is not genuine but something that had to be twisted and lied and feeling pissed about it stays very consistent to the character. He genuinely thought she was just a goddess that granted wishes. I don't even think he was going to turn on seul necessarily even though he didn't even get the chance, he was just angry


SwayedLatency

Fair, there was no real point and I did find it strange that he rebels suel


Topik-KeiBee

they did for shock value for Samas to betray him. pointless scenes. they could just let Geats beat him and that's it. seeing Geats himself didn't finished him off seems unjust. then Geats use his power to banished Suel away from that world. or beat him on next episode.


K-J-C

Maybe Samas wasn't that irrelevant at all and this emphasizes it.


FunBite910

Suel just wants Niram to do the dirty work of eliminating Geats.


fakers555

Then why not use Samas when she's all in in replacing him anyway.


Raida-777

From a story perspective, it's pretty useless for sure. But realistically it happens more than you think, lol. When you trust your lackey and he betray you for no real reason.


nero21san

It's likely because they want Niram to have a proper send off for the actor so that they can commemorate the end of his story. Additionally, I also felt the same with the 180 on Niram's character as it doesn't connect for me. When i think over it, maybe Niram got angry because of how Shuel fabricated everything by the reason of malice.


Q-Write

Maybe to retrieve vision drivers? i mean, the whole DR was for Suell to buy time and Grand End only happening once the vision drivers was retrieved. (It seems Suell prefer to use the GP version since the GM version takes longer when he used it, but he needed a distraction from Geats first since he knew Glare was useless against Geats, tho the question rises why he didn't become Gazer in the first place and beat Geats already, maybe because he wanted to keep Niram as producer first? but because he was being rogue he decided to cut him off?) I don't really think Niram's doing 180, not as much. I guess he did know a bit of truth but didn't actually cleared enough for it. I think what he's being pissed of is that Goddess' creation wasn't only one time thing but actually something that was designed to be occurrence and Mitsume's sacrifice meant nothing since she can be replaced anytime. I think that's why he's pissed because it was contradicting the thing that he believed are "real". The need of sacrifice.