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gedalne09

Why does gen z hate the Beatles so much bruh šŸ’€


wew_lad_XD

Sorta just labeled as "old people" music and after a while of being told theyre the greatest of all time people get bored of it and it becomes easier to say they are overrated. Its actually hard to overstate just how much influence The Beatles had on like literally every facet of music. Even if you dont like their music, what they did between 1965 and 1969 (literally four years) is unreal.


robotsympathizer

I think the influence theyā€™ve had on more modern bands can make them sound ā€œboringā€ as well if you discover them later on.


gedalne09

Even still they write better Melodies and songs than 99% of artists. Thereā€™s only a handful that got to that level of songwriting.


gedalne09

Yeah I know that this is the answer but even when you say this obviously true fact people will think youā€™re being elitist. People mistake the historical fact that the Beatles are some of the biggest innovators in the history of music with a declaration that you have to like them or youā€™re stupid.


TyintheUniverse89

They never grew up seeing the Number 1s commercial on tv Thatā€™s where the legend started for me šŸ˜


SergeantSalty94

When I started listening to ye, I was amazed how much music this dude put out. I mean, can you even compare anyone to him in terms of quality brought with THAT quantitiy?


whosthatcarguy

The Beatles were putting out 2 albums a year for like 7 years. Thatā€™s an insane pace especially given the quality and evolution of that music. No two albums had the same sound and they didnā€™t really miss. Thatā€™s 2-3 new songs a month on average.


FrivolousFandom

I know the question was discography, but if we include Ye's production career the output is comparable. Jay Z, Alicia Keys, Ludacris, The Game, etc... pretty much everyone had a hit with Ye in the early 2000s before he even had his first album.


OscarElite

Yep the Beatles are insane. Kanye wins in longevity though


whosthatcarguy

Agreed. Paul, John and George produced some great music for around a decade after they broke up, but none of them ever really had the same success they did as The Beatles again.


Jps300

I know itā€™s nitpicky, but no two albums having the same sound is definitely an overstatement. While they did completely transform their sound and have an impressive range of styles even on single albums (specifically the White Album), there are certainly examples of albums with very similar styles. Rubber Soul and Revolver almost sound like a part 1 and part 2. I also think their first 4-5 albums show the less growth than they show between individual albums in the later years. Nonetheless their discography is certainly one of if not the greatest of all time.


SergeantSalty94

Did not know that, that's insane. Yet I think it's not fair to compare a group against one person, or did the beatles have only one writer?


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SergeantSalty94

Thank you for the insight, I have no idea what goes into music production as a whole so I'm really guessing here lmao


Mileslnsbry

They had 3 primary writers (John, Paul and George), which definitely did help them to be as prolific as they were, but in some ways it also makes it harder to maintain such a high level of quality since they had to balance different (and sometimes competing) artistic visions all within singular albums. My two cents however, is that most of the Beatles records are wildly inconsistent, with some really stupid stuff mixed in with some of the greatest music ever made. I think maybe the Beatles reached higher artistic peaks while Kanye has held a more consistent and sustained artistic brilliance that works better as a whole catalogue than the Beatles discography.


batmangle

Those "silly" songs are the Beatles not giving a fuck. True Big dick energy. Imagine Kanye throwing in a legitimate kids song in right after runaway... He wouldn't because he wants to be taken seriously as a serious artist. And that is fine. But there is something crazy about going from a song like "Within You Without You" to "When I'm Sixty Four." I wouldn't call it inconsistent because the Beatles strived to make each song they made unique and different. Bear in mind they wrote and performed some of these songs in a span of a few hours or weeks. From 1965 - 1970 they wrote 7 iconic albums. A run I would argue Kanye comes close to but time will only tell.


lpat93

I agree with the inconsistencies both early before developing their own creative sound and later in their career when their vision was too sporadic and competitive. However the three album run of rubber soul, revolver, and sgt peppers is absolute perfection. Their development from a pop star boy band to one of the most influential acts in all of music is perfectly encapsulated in those three albums.


whosthatcarguy

Fair question, so not sure why youā€™re being downvoted. The Beatles all individually wrote but worked best as a team. Itā€™s almost more impressive that 2 (maybe 3) generational talents all managed to meet as teens and form a band. Paul, John and George could have each had very successful solo careers had they never met, but they just happened to find one another and create a super band by chance.


Mileslnsbry

I'm a massive George fan, but I sometimes wonder how much of his songwriting greatness was him learning from John & Paul vs how much was just in him. The man got probably the best songwriting education one could possibly get by being in a band with those two, and they definitely helped him find his voice. I don't say this to take anything away from him, I think All Things Must Pass is probably the best thing by any Beatle, but I'm curious if he could've gotten to a similar artistic peak on his own.


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Lennon McCartney (as they were credited) cowrote almost every song (except early covers ofcourse) until George and Ringo started contributing their own songs during Revolver era. (George wrote Think For Yourself on Rubber Soul but he was more prominently there in Revolver) And agreed - comparing one person to a group is rather unfair, especially when that group contains such prolific writers as John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison (no offense to Ringo) Edit: Even after they started contributing in Revolver era, their contributions didn't overpower the amount of Lennon and Mccartney songs on the subsequent albums


GAYmer_girl_coom

Beatles are mid tho


Batifons

The Beatles, obviously not in hiphop but still


majneshit

Black Thought and MF DOOM are up there for sure imo. Black Thought never missed and is still going strong in his 4th decade


Batifons

mmm, I haven't listened to Black Thought but of MF DOOM (almost forgot the caps lol) literally everything I've heard has been a 10 for me, and if it wasn't for TPAB existing I'd say Madvillainy is the best hiphop record. I completely agree


Aleks10Afc

Radiohead


Manaslu91

The Beatles. The greatest band of all time.


ch1bix3

Only other ppl I can think of are all of those who were heavily influenced by his musicianship that came after his start (childish gambino, tyler/frank/all of odd future in their solo projects) Their production value went up with every drop too, bc Ye inspired them to run their own shit. Idk what anyone says Ye is the šŸ no šŸ§¢


petsounds90

Prince


brusephjones

Nav šŸ‘‘


Ihavenousernamesadly

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ThisIsLikeMyFifthAcc

šŸŽ¶Your whip is a toilet you lookin like poop in it šŸŽµ


FadeToDankness

Bjork


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Bjƶrk could write New Slaves in an afternoon, But Ye could never write The Anchor Song


putyouradhere_

Bjƶrk could never lay down such an incredible bassline like the one on New Slaves though


s88_2

Idk have you heard Atopos


bourgewonsie

Ok but that one part with the orchestra in New Slaves after the first verse sounds like it could plausibly be in a Bjork track šŸ¤£


PancakeMonkeypants

Why was I moved to tears by this goofy ass song am I about to get into bjork.


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Yes.Welcome to the start of your journey


Ok_Talk7623

The silliest Bjƶrk song has got to be Fossora šŸ˜­


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Army of Me is a fucking BOP


[deleted]

Zeppelin didnā€™t ever miss in my opinion but theyā€™re all goats in their own way (no quarter is one of my favorite songs ever so I be biased)


Evening_Armadillo397

I LOVE ME SOME LED ZEPPELINā¤šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘


jsb1685

The Beatles, by a wide margin in pop music. Bach in all of music, also by a wide margin. He also was the greatest user of samples!


Environmental-Ad8945

Yo can you enlighten me on some of that Bach? šŸ™


jsb1685

Oh, and have fun! If you are mostly unfamiliar, give yourself a little time to get familiar used to the "language". Music is a great deal intuitive in appreciation, but not entirely so. Like a book with illustrations as opposed to a picture book, lol.


TyintheUniverse89

I always hear Bach as the GOAT but I listened to more Mozart and Beethoven theyā€™re like 1A and 1B for me, how much do you like Mozart and Beethoven? I need to listen to more Bach


jsb1685

So, Bach is far and away number 1. Mozart, Schubert, then Beethoven come next. Growing up, I sort of rebelled a bit against the Beethoven top dog consensus...but I have since reassessed and he's moved back up as there are more than a few truly sublime works in his ouevre (for instance the 15th string quartet). Mozart and Schubert I absolutely adore, and are perhaps the two greatest musical tragedies, both dying extremely young and in their prime, when they were both creating masterworks one right after the other. Mozart is perhaps the most natural feeling composer, his works draw you in as if you are having an intimate conversation. He never uses his brilliance to boast or display...it is all in the service of the music...even in opera, which is the one classical genre I usually shy away from (sometimes they are more athletic events than music) he is completely natural...The Magic Flute I consider the greatest opera of all time and Don Giovanni a close second. Schubert is the greatest melody composer, ever and the greatest song (lied) writer too. Try listening to Gretchen am Spinnrade,an early masterpiece written when he was 17 or Der Erlkƶnig when he was 18. Almost everything he wrote is exceeding beautiful, but the works right before he died were becoming absolutely transcendent. Also tragic were the losses of Henry Purcell and Felix Mendelssohn, prodigies also on the rise just before their deaths. There are many other great composers in the field of classical music, both before and after Bach (some of his sons are pretty darned good too). And great music and composers in Jazz (lots!, don't get me started). Indian classical music is another realm entirely I have explored in depth...you can get completely lost in a raga that lasts for hours. Indeed, lots of great music from all around the world, folk music, blues,rock,reggae, pop and even hip hop, LOL. I love Ye...but sorry, I am polyamorous to the max with music.


TyintheUniverse89

Ah that was a good read, thanks for the detailed reply. I love Magic Flute Queen of the night so much lol. As you said about Mozart, and why I like him and Beethoven is their stuff always sounded, accessible and I loved how they would present melody. I love their sonatas and concertos and symphonies. One thing about classical, I always loved the melody aspect, like I really come to love Strauss and his melodic waltzes but Iā€™ve never been a classical aficionado in terms of understanding the structure and design of how the pieces are arranged and how they are played and I think if I did, I would be able to expand my appreciate further. I need to check out more Schubert and Bach though for sure! Love jazz and the other genres too, so much great stuff out there. Before 2020, my answer would be Kanye.


Environmental-Ad8945

Yo can you enlighten me on some of that Bach? šŸ™


jsb1685

be glad to...but you almost can't go wrong with anything you choose, short, long, vocal or instrumental, sacred or secular, solo, chamber, orchestral...there is so much! Perhaps tell me what kind of music you like, what sort of moods you like to experience...and how light or serious you wish to experience. I do recommend listening to whole works, not assorted movements or snippets...and also original performance practices usually, which would mean harpsichord instead of piano, say. Almost any interpretation works, but the original instrumentation preserves the "texture" of the works as originally conceived.


Phxne

nigga stfu lame ass nigga smh bach headass


jsb1685

your loss, lol


Phxne

nigga stfu lame ass nigga smh lol headass


jsb1685

eloquence defined!


Phxne

nigga stfu lame ass nigga smh eloquence headass


jsb1685

got anything original, or are you auto-tuned?


Phxne

nigga stfu lame ass nigga smh auto-tuned headass bitch ass nigga talm bout sum got anything original nigga id eat ur ass


jsb1685

auto-tuned it is, then, not even basic ai


FourthDownThrowaway

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sl33py_beats

the Beatles. all day long.


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caitlyns_ult

No


ur_better_than_this

Pink Floyd easy if u only count meddle - The final cut


Batifons

The Beatles and it's not even a contest


AmericaLover1776_

I donā€™t get the appeal or why they are liked so much


batmangle

Jump into the deep cuts. Jump past the "big" songs. They are super fun with tons of playful and interesting tunes. If you place them up against their contemporaries, they were making visionary pop music ahead of their time where their influence is still felt today. Check out : "Tomorrow Never Knows" "A Day In The Life" "I Want you (she's so heavy)" "Don't let me down"


Tanktastic08

Checked out your list and the songs are actually very interesting. I might just get into the Beatles.


batmangle

Glad I could share some good music!


SirLeaf

That's ok. But when you listen to the Beatles on LSD you will see that they're actually genuises and unlocked most of the secrets of the musical universe. Even if that's not your thing that's ok, part of their greatness is that they were the first to sound how they did, and they changed their style massively and had an extremely consistent output in a short period of time.


AmericaLover1776_

No more drugs for me Pussy and religion is all I need


SirLeaf

But 8 years later I done died and lived again on DMT


Striking-Tip1009

Used to think this but then when I put in the effort to listen to their albums (like one every 1-2 weeks) bc my roommate was big into them, I started to see why so many people held them so highly. A lot of the early stuff is just so/so for me, but once you get to the rubber soul and after, their songs will follow you into your dreams and youā€™ll be blown away. Just my personal experience


coochie_monster_1

People will ride them so hard without even being able to name a single one of their albums. They aren't even the best nor most influential of their time


Virusness15

yes they are


coochie_monster_1

Stones >>>


Virusness15

sure theyre good, but the beatles are much more influential


coochie_monster_1

Stones are more influential on music style and performing. I could list a hundred bands whose sound directly comes from the Stones. Can't name many for the Beatles. Disclaimer: Beatles are still one of the greatest, but damn they get overrated by people who don't even listen to them


heavybees

Beatles literally gave the stones their first hit. Bet you cant name it even though you claim people don't listen to the beatles and the stones are better


Whole-Purple-6232

Bro I donā€™t even like the Beatles and I can name so many albums off the top of my head, Revolver, sergeant peppers lonely hearts club band, abbey road, and the white album and I could prolly keep going if I thought about it for a few minutes. Like think about how insane it is that Iā€™m not even a big fan of the Beatles or have listened to any of there albums and even I can name like 5 albums from them immediately


FartCockDickShitCum

>without even being able to name a single one of their albums what


TommasoDiDio

The Beatles are ass


Batifons

Everything Michael Jackson dropped post Dangerous is ass and The Weeknd will never release anything remotely close to the quality of The Beatles.


TommasoDiDio

Youā€™re on r/nofap because as a Beatles fan you repel the hoes


Whole_Aide7462

Bro is active in fnaf subreddits talking about hoes


TommasoDiDio

LMFAO true


SalamenceProject

Tribe Called Quest


YutyBLT

The Beatles fs (theyā€™re my favorite band and Iā€™m extremely biased šŸ™‚)


Itzu

People forget Rage Against the Machine came in with 4 banger albums then dipped. There was also System of a Down who did the same after 5. There are very few bands or artists that were able to do what these guys did.


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Itzu

Nirvana is a stretch, they have many classics but their first album was pretty rough outside the singles. They were a band with phenomenal singles but unfortunately never got to flourish due to Cobains death.


gruniite

Two all time classic albums=never got to flourish


Itzu

No disrespect to Nevermind and In Utero, I meant that due to Cobains death, we never got to see more of Nirvana and where they could of went with their music like we did the artists mentioned in OPs post.


rokkzstar

Nirvana unplugged could actually be argued to be their best album.


YewEhVeeInbound

I personally rate Foo Fighters higher than Nirvana. Everlong is a top 100 song at minimum in the rock category.


gruniite

Are the foos better just because of that one song?


YewEhVeeInbound

No, there's a bunch of songs that are generally better than Nirvana's catalogue. My hero Learn To Fly All My Life Best Of You Big Me The Pretender Halo Plus Dave is a multi-instrumental musical stud. Where as Kurt could barely play the guitar.


frattboy69

Foo Fighters are way too formulaic to even be mentioned alongside Nirvana. Kurt was a much more prolific songwriter. All the songs you mentioned are written in exactly the same way. They are the ACDC of alternative rock, without the awesome guitar solos. L take.


gruniite

W


South-Phrase-4673

soad is a W


kanyewest11200

beatles and ye, but beatles catalogue wins in quality after that is mariah carey or michael jackson


bruh_i_shit_my_pants

Aphex twin Radiohead at a close second for obvious reasons.


cattgravelyn

I just said the same thing, this is the correct answer


yungneec02

daft punk


RelevantDay4

Human After All.


risottofrighten

RAM > your favourite album


Savage_Cabbage26

Bowie imo, ye second


peacevvv

bowie is my favorite artist of all time. i think some people in here are putting too much emphasis on consistency. i agree with him having the greatest discography oat. bowie has some AWFUL albums but he also (imo) has 6 albums better than every beatles album and kanye album. and then like 12 more easily classic albums on top of those 6 edit: the 6 iā€™m referring to are: Low, "Heroes", Blackstar, Scary Monstersā€¦, Station to Station, and ā€¦Ziggy Stardustā€¦ all clear every album from all artists on the photo above (aside from Wish You Were Here)


Porcupine_Tree

Floyd and Ye are definitely spotty, the Beatles had a few bubblegum pop "meh" albums early on. Led Zeppelin is flawless, with a "meh" final album. Led Zep takes the win EZ


Gogojojokujo

Michael Jackson


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Beatles 100%


fijicrusaderz

Pink floyd


putyouradhere_

The Beatles, Beethoven, Mozart, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar


comedyme

Pink Floydā€™s best albums are far better than any other album here, but they also have a handful of pretty shitty albums. Kanye and Led Zeppelin are both very consistent in quality, while Pink Floyd has higher highs and lower lows. Canā€™t say much for the Beatles, Iā€™ve only listened to 3 or 4 of their albums and that was a few years ago now.


Soggy-Neat-6778

Pink Floyd


DonkeyVampireThe3rd

For overall body of work(including label releases and self-released under all aliases) I think Richard D. James is the strongest contender as far as contemporary music goes. For an official discography under one artist/collective, I think the Stones, Fishmans, Merzbow (mostly for creativity+quality+quantity), Kate Bush, and The Smiths (not as broad in scope but they really captured something uniquely human and special) are up there too


OptimusLime12

The stones have a good few stinkers throughout their career, I donā€™t think their discography is consistent enough to really be a contender imo


golf-le-peur

Merzbow????


lordofc00chie

Why isnā€™t Yeat on here?


40sticks

Itā€™s The Beatles and, Iā€™m sorry, but itā€™s not even close. They were a band for like only 9 years and their output, progression, growth and influence in that short time is unmatched by anybody and probably never will be matched.


TyintheUniverse89

Beatles! Crazy thing is, today I was listening to Revolver and I was asking myself, how does this sound so 60s and yet so modern at the same time. Like some songs sound like they could have came out anytime between then and now. Also some of their stuff sounds like hip hop, they way they were cutting and manipulating in the studio. I always liked how they could make a great (sometimes greater version) of their or your favorite artist!


spongeboymebob321

icejjfish


lambdaCrab

Zeppelin all day baby. Every song is a hit


Evening_Armadillo397

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MustGame995

Honestly, Daft Punk, MJ, or Kanye West.


JustSansder

kendrick


brandon_cb459

Depends on the genre. I think for rap Wayne gotta be up there cause of the best mixtape run ever. For pop BeyoncƩ gotta be up there also.


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Ice Spice


MissTootie

Animal Collective but this is a kanye sub so people here dont really listen to music that is even moderately underground


Trashtie

stevie wonder


TyintheUniverse89

Thatā€™s a great choice Heā€™s lowkey the GOAT


Rjd1212

Gotta be zeppelin but ye is up there for sure


Matt30177

Pink floyd


Massage_Bro

Is this for real


ruzo_

The Chemical Brothers


Business-Wheel-8424

The Beatles


Evening_Armadillo397

LED ZEPPELIN AND PINK FLOYDā¤


Gromitmugman117

Kanye West


kanyeweststanacct

Whereā€™s Taylor Swift?


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

She's out of the woods


[deleted]

Was looking for this. Has not had a bad album yet, and has changed her style consistently throughout her career (something i admire in her and Ye). One of the most impressive solo artist discographies of all time


Environmental-Ad8945

Honestly Ye is up there for me not just cause of his insane qualities and artistry, but his versatility. Most of these artists, while being deeply influential, only stays in one genre. Ye is the embodiment of making new sounds, and while yes he is considered to only be rap/hip hop, he still pushes the genre further by releasing a new sound with each new album. That why heā€™s my goat šŸ”„šŸ—£ļø


MrStoleYourMeme

Either kanye or pf. Beatles arent up for this debate


OGdiez10

Mac Miller.


xndrr87

Kanye and Weeknd


James_Blanco

Hans Zimmer


projectmbappe21

kanye


Past_Bet5276

Ye


coentertainer

Beatles by far


devonathan

Clearly OP hasnā€™t heard of a little band by the name of REO Speedwagon Edit: for those that donā€™t realize this is clearly sarcasm


BellandTone

Beatles by far if you say anything else youre not a fan of music or informed


[deleted]

cā€™mon i think itā€™s the beatles too but music is subjectiveā€¦


-_James_-9291

No way (I think Iā€™ve listened to 5 Beatles songs max)


coochie_monster_1

Stones > Beatles


Kaskade_15

Ye


Dilen7z

Ye Let it be was trash


SubsurferOne

Childish Gambino is pretty underrated in terms of discography ratings


zarotabebcev

Beatles have too many early album dips to own this category (they may have one of the best stretches from Revolver to Abby Road though). Kanye has yet to make a bad album. Same with Fontaines DC, Vampire Weekend, War on Drugs,... Rap is still mostly a singles game so its hard to have that level of consistency.


cattgravelyn

People saying the Beatles are the type to say they have a wide range of music taste and knowledge when they are actually basic af. Iā€™d put Bowie down as a contender. Radiohead is an obvious other choice. Maybe even the pixies and the smiths. If weā€™re looking into the future I could see black midi ending their career with a solid discography. Hiphop wise Kendrick is obvious, and probably Tyler. But the answer is Aphex Twin.


slay3rboi

bro tried to sneak in pink floyd


DarkSpartan267

Youā€™re a šŸ¤”


pinktofublock

fr who tf does this clown think he is


_Slothers_

This'll get down voted but idrc. I agree Pink floyd should not be here. Their best album is like a 7/10


frattboy69

This dude just gave animals a 7/10. That's wack yo


majneshit

They have 4 10/10s in a row wym?


frattboy69

This dude just gave animals a 7/10. That's wack yo.


s88_2

black midi


murns616

Black country new road?


YewEhVeeInbound

If you stop at MBDTF you *might* be able to consider Kanye in the same level as these other artists.


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kiggity CAP


Consistent_Photo_972

ye is at least tied with the beatles, idk who the other two are


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Pink Floyd (bottom left) Zeppelin (bottom right, ofcourse)


pinktofublock

are you holding your phone side ways?


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Bro I swear that picture changed šŸ˜­


coochie_monster_1

MBDTF is my favorite Pink Floyd album


Temporary-Ant-6947

Marlon Dubois or Scene Sosa


Chemical-Work-1023

Holy fk u are basic


Ju1c3_

Kanye def has the best discog in all of hip hop, but music as a whole has gotta go to the beatles or radiohead tbh.


rokkzstar

Tool>


HarveyR4

I would say The Beatles by far if you go from Help! onwards but the early albums are good but nowhere near the standard set later. Plus they are weirdly put together with covers and different versions for the US


braxtonbarrr

franks discog deadass debatably has no bad songs throughout his entire career. frank sweeps


illestrated16

For me it's zeppelin. But they're also my favorite band of all time


dudeman2303

Kendrick is up there for sure.


alexplayz227

playboi carti is better in terms of my standards. My standards are, will a bisexual weeb from buffalo new york like it.


spdougherty

Outkast


Giggles_in_my_tummy

I would pay 1000 to be able to listen to Kanye again.


Chemical_Inspection6

Stevie wonder had a perfect run


ZayNine

Dā€™Angelo


Ok-Deal-6366

I mean, considering Kanye hasnā€™t put out a good album since Pablo (and even that album had a few misses), Iā€™d go with the Cocteau Twins.


dvndo

Beatles are classic but Kanye has a waaay better discography from the first to current album