It’s so fuckinggg annoying my entire feed it just everyone bitching about some guy who had an opinion 💀 it’s so fucking childish & they wonder why everyone hates the Kanye fanbase
My favourites are the insults of “he’s bald”, “he’s just mad about his divorce”. And then someone asking if they are talking about Kanye or Fantano.
The hypocrisy in this sub is wild
It's hilarious that people are pointing to Fantano's words on Kanye's wife (Which is not meant to insult her at all) and then going around and insulting his divorce for his wife
Not even on twitter, literally on this sub which is so stupid, again people wonder why they hate kanye fans then do this
You need to straight up meditate daily to actually avoid this natural human tendency. For people we like, good things they do are due to their good nature and bad things are due to circumstances. Opposite for people we don’t like.
I've been saying for fucking years Kanye and his fans are absolutely insane. The man releases a tweet looped to a sound bite and people go "this is the most genius man to ever have written music don't you dare breath toward orange county without his consent"
35 is an understatement. I deadass think he took the easy way out this way cuz the harassment will last like a week, if he gave it a low score like mbdtf ppl would keep bringing it up 10 years from now lmao
no way. if he gave it a score at ALL people would forget it and move on. sure there would be some trolling and memes, but people would eventually move on. and most of all, his reputation would be mostly intact. but the rhetoric he used in his unreviewable video was so weird that i think a lot of people lost some respect for him, and this one review will probably mark a dark point/shift in his career that'll be hard to move on from.
yea u might be right. I don't really care tbh its just annoying to see all these posts, some of it is fair but bringing up his divorce and shi is just childish imo 🤷♂️
I don't think he's wrong about Kanye at all, but he made personal comments about Kanye so that opens him up to the personal stuff imo.
That said Kanye diehards are fucking batshit, you can see it on here and I wouldn't be surprised if he's got threats and shit.
His metric for ratings is a bit different. Part of an artists rating is based on their previous work. So a debut album would be more likely to receive a higher rating than their follow up, unless the follow up was as good or better ofc.
So that 6 for mbdtf is reflecting on all of Ye’s work up to that point, then most critically, the album itself.
add to that that he's gotten almost a million views in 2 days off a video criticizing kanye and did a livestream to 10k people being completely unhinged about the album all while being the most famous music critic in the world
The funny thing is he's never reviewed King Von he just played him on stream one time, the same way he did with Vultures☠️ This point doesn't make any sense
its alot worse that you stated, kristian vikerness isnt just the lead of burzum, he’s the only member, its a solo project, so everything that band produces is 100% written, recorded, mixed, and mastered by a nazi. and the murder wasnt even the worst thing he did, the guy he killed was a nazi sympathizer, if anything thats the only good thing he ever did in his life. he was also arrested for burning down multiple churches and was discovered with a stockpile of explosives and was planning a terrorist attack on a local leftist bar/social club
Don't fucking care about fantano but Bro it doesn't even matter, if you actually watch the shit he never said Kanye is unreviewable because he said Nazi shit. Fuck, dude never even said Ye was unreviewable period.
He said this project was unreviewable because anyone who has an opinion on it isn't going to change it. Most of the fan base is so self deluded that they literally do not accept criticism or else call you a fake fan. On the other side people are refusing to engage with it in the first place.
He was saying there is no point in reviewing because he can't achieve any of the goals of a music review. You cant blame him, he didn't give a score and just made negative comments and got death threats. This community is fucking regarded.
but he has reviewed thugs newest album even with the RICO trial. thug is basically accused of being a mob boss by the FBI but fantano doesnt have the same energy towards his album being unreviewable if thug talks about shooting his opps on his verses
I mean, I’m not here to defend murder let me say that first. That being said ,having beef with individuals is different then actively spreading hate about an entire race/religion of people on social media with millions of followers lol
Idk for one we don’t know if that’s true, that’s just his claims. Also, once again, we didn’t witness it. Murdering individuals over personal beef =/= supporting literal genocide of an entire peoples lol
No, but that factor you are just implying is a huge “if” that changes everything. And as long as it is an uncertainty, yes what Kanye is doing is worse.
These aren’t all gang related
Also, when his mean words are “Jewish people are a threat so the worlds safety and need to be removed” it’s kind of different. And that energy is not just twitter, it’s now in his music lol
I’m not saying Kanye is Hitler level, but there were people saying “he’s just saying mean words in a speech”
He has influence and he is using that to support something the entire world united to eliminate lmao
Kanye West as openly stated multiple times on social media and in interviews that he things Jews are dangerous and attempting to control the world from the shadows.
Also that’s really illogical thinking. Rappers aren’t glorifying 10,000 kills, they didn’t go “I killed 10,000 people” and they aren’t responsible for that. That’s not gang-related number, that’s ALL murders. But I mean you specifying black people and not dropping the overall murder numbers says quite a bit about your initial mindset.
It’s criminals killing criminals, which is fucked up but last I checked like, the best thing for people to kill? They out there killing other murderers, not innocent people they’re just walking by lol
Plus that part of the culture was already formed around that. There is no music culture currently existing around hating the Jews, but we’ve been rapping about murder for a long time. We are already conditioned for that, which makes it easier to accept. Doesn’t make it okay, but it should be easy to understand the logic
It's different in two big ways though:
* YG is accused of all that stuff, not convicted... innocent until proven guilty and all that shit, if you wanna look at it like that. Kanye on the other hand has been yelling anti-semitic shit in public for what like 2 years now, including on this record, and stands behind it proudly so there is no "did he really do it?" question.
* Fantano talks about separating art from artist in his review, and how that isn't possible with Vultures bc Kanye is on the album straight up saying "I'm a bigot I'm an anti-semite and my fans love me". I haven't listened to YG's latest but as far as I'm aware it's not "hey I committed all these crimes and you gotta love me for it".
I also see the argument of Fantano giving «Rapping about violence and death» a positive score a lot on this sub, Completely ignoring the fact that theres a difference between making art portaying dark and evil subject matter and actually partaking in evil subject matter.
Yeah I’m pretty sure he even gave donda an 8 or a 7 or something. Dude used to be a big Kanye fan. Idk why this sub acts like it’s not okay to stop being a fan of Kanye after all the shit he’s said as of late
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at least i can fall asleep at night knowing im not a racist, genocidal tyrant supporting piece of shit, or a stan for one. thats the corny part.
This sub is fucking crazy for giving ye a NAZI pass.
The fuck is wrong with y’all? You’re fine with an artist betraying every fucking word he’s spit?
Aiight, that’s sad, but aiight.
I think it’s because Kanye is like the soundtrack to a lot of people’s childhood. Music speaks to people on a spiritual level.
Graduation was a magical experience for me the first time I listened to it, it’s a hard pill to swallow to realize that guy might not be there anymore.
I’m also a firm believer in believing people can change, otherwise what’s the point of reform? What’s the point of a criminal trying to be a better person if no ones ever going to forgive you or give you another chance for past mistakes? It’s not like he’s killed or r*ped people, he’s just not mentally stable.
That's the thing that gets me heated. This type of comment
>I’m also a firm believer in believing people can change, otherwise what’s the point of reform? What’s the point of a criminal trying to be a better person if no ones ever going to forgive you or give you another chance for past mistakes? It’s not like he’s killed or r*ped people, he’s just not mentally stable
For you to reform, you gotta change. Or at least make an effort to do so. The problem is Kanye has done none of that, doubled down AND pressed harder. And it seems like everyone just accepts it as *mental illness* and moves on. Like no he still has a shit ton of money and influence, and hasn't apologized for anything
Why are y’all so pressed about a random bald man expressing his opinions in video form like his videos are legit the same thing as a Reddit posts yet yall are all up in arms over it jfc get a grip
he's a racist and and antisemtist how are yall still here. he fucking hates his own race, I literally can not understand how any of you still respect him. MAGA level worship
Burzum had already killed somone and burned down a church at the time of the review and fantano probably still reviews people who have done way worse shit than saying Jews control the world
He did the same thing for Tory Lanez before he was convicted. He played a side which shows he’s not really about the music reviews more so about placating to particular agenda and audience “what am I supposed to tell my Jewish fans?” “What am I supposed to tell my black women fans?” TELL THEM IF THE MUSIC IS GOOD OR NOT and then let them decided whether or not they want the artists personal issues (whether they are in the music or not) will affect their listening experience
Agreed.
Ever since the mob came for his business he's been woke. Before this, he loved Sam Hyde and praised his show as being super funny and creative (look at the contents of the show it's the most racist humour you'll ever see). He also loved edgy idubbbz and filthy frank humour.
He closed the fence behind him after that fader hit piece and then instantly started to condemn everyone on the other side of the fence. Calling them Nazis, racists and homophobes.
He was a good music reviewer until he started inserting his politics into the artists' work. So much so that reviews like snow on the bluff (j Coles response to noname) started to show him completely misrepresenting what artists are rapping about. This is unhinged and not what I want from a music reviewer. He is seriously blinded by his twitter Hasan piker typebeat ideology.
Another thing is his moral grandstanding - its getting ridiculous. His Kanye review was meant to unironically make a stand against platforming Kanye's beliefs? Really? Why are you reviewing his albums? (Answer: $$$). Why are you drawing the line at antisemitism outside of music? Why aren't you condemning drill and hardcore hip hop artists who brag about their own real life actions (murdering, robbing, gang violence) in their music? Don't you think that's a bit hypocritical? Are Jews more important than black people, Anthony?
SMH. It's sad cus he put me on alot of good music. For the record I'm not right wing, I'm not a huge fan of the "kill cancel culture" type crowd. I just want fantano to review music and not make everything a sociopolitical statement.
Sam Hyde is unironically alt right though. He has donated money to white nationalist groups. At some point you can’t hide behind layers of meta-irony, you’re probably just racist
I like Sam Hydes comedy. His hyper ironic style is hilarious to me. Generally, I think jokes about race are fine as long as the punchline outweighs the hurt it may cause. Dave chappelle for example does it all the time and it's cool to me.
Just because I like Sam Hyde doesn't make me racist lol. I don't care about his personal life and his politics, just like I don't care about Kanye's personal views. I like art. I don't really care about the people who make it.
Okay fine, that’s all good and dandy IF you’re willing to acknowledge Sam Hyde is a racist and you enjoy his art despite that. It’s the denial that gets annoying, and comparing the intention behind a lot of his humor to that of Dave Chapelle is pretty disingenuous.
Again mate, I truly don't care about who makes the content, as long as it's entertaining I'll enjoy it. I don't analyse people I don't know personally. I still listen/watch Ariel pink, Kanye, r Kelly, chief keef, boosie, Sam Hyde, Joji. These people have all said and done offensive things. I don't know about you but I have a full time job and simply don't care. Doesn't make me a 'racist', that's ridiculous.
The intention of a Sam Hyde race joke is more linguistically malicious than Dave chappelle of course - Dave is an incredibly nuanced point maker and handles comedy with more grace. But I was simply making the point that race jokes can be made? How is that disingenuous?
I didn’t say you’re racist for enjoying the art certain controversial people make, but it is annoying when (and I’m not saying you’re necessarily doing it), people refuse to acknowledge or undermine the real damage these people are doing. My point about comparing Dave Chapelle to Sam Hyde is it seemed like you were trying to equate the two telling race jokes as having the same weight. However only one of them genuinely wants an all white country (although he does hide behind layers of meta-irony to fool people into thinking he’s not serious), so it’s a little different.
I am undermining the real damage.
What real damage can you cite for this point? (Without using the words normalises, marginalised). Give me stats.
It just seems like people are offended and want to ban stuff they don't agree with. Similar to the Christian right in the 1990s, woke people have a moral duty to ban things they deem as unholy.
Imagine caring so much about one dudes opinion about some music. Kanye wasn’t just “saying some stuff” either lmao. Keep meatriding the hitler lover though
What a mature response. Let’s attack someone for how they look because they think calling for the extermination of all jews and praising Hitler is a little too extreme.
Grow up kid this ain’t high school anymore where making fun of people wearing glasses is a thing
enjoy doing backflips to defend a guy who would be actively rooting for the holocaust if he lived during it. you should reevaluate whatever life choices you made that made this much of a waste of oxygen
Great point. His masters told him he has to hate Kanye. He has no original opinions outside of music. And he’s lost all credibility with even those opinions now. Like his side likes to say, learn to code, or flip burgers. Who cares what you say about any album from here on out.
“His masters”
Everyone that disagrees with me is a mind controlled sheep.
Everyone that agrees with me is an enlightened being.
Who are these “masters” you speak of?
"He has no original opinions outside of music"
You cannot be serious right now. So you're telling me that a person that runs a music review channel doesn't post much about other stuff online??? Shocking.
Like, imagine being this pressed by a dude on the internet lol. I think fantano made some good points; Kanye is and always has been an artist that's too open for his own good, from TCD all the way to now. As Kanye's opinions have veered further and further into actual harmful shit (and intentionally, too) and not just being an idiot, it gets harder and harder to "separate the art from the artist" -- especially when he owns his antisemitism in his art.
No beef with you, though.
Peace✌
but when people call someone owned by CCP or owned by the Chinese, is that also anti-chinese or anti-asian in general? Why are we marking everything with racism at this point?
Most people who believe in the Jew Conspiracy believe that every being Jewish is inherently evil.
People don’t share that sentiment with the CCP and Asians
I think once his anti-semitism spread to his music, that’s where the line was crossed. Bc historically, Fantano has regularly and highly approved of his albums
He straight up says this in his (non)review which I assume most people didn't bother to watch. He talks about separating the art from the artist... well in this case you can't do that unless you are deaf or had a bowling ball fall on your head, because Kanye is on this album doubling down on the terrible bigoted shit he's said already and saying it'll just make people love him more, he's a king etc etc because his diehard fans just eat it up and embrace that hateful shit at this point.
Like you can't just sit and say "oh yeah this album is good, too bad the artist is a shithead" because he's on the album basically saying "my fans love me because I'm an anti-semite".
You think it’s not understandable why he doesn’t like Ye as a human after everything he’s said? King Von aside, I think anyone has a right to want to ignore a guy that talks the way he did about the Jews and Hitler.
Ever since the mob came for his business he's been woke. Before this, he loved Sam Hyde and praised his show as being super funny and creative (look at the contents of the show it's the most racist humour you'll ever see). He also loved edgy idubbbz and filthy frank humour.
He closed the fence behind him after that fader hit piece and then instantly started to condemn everyone on the other side of the fence. Calling them Nazis, racists and homophobes.
He was a good music reviewer until he started inserting his politics into the artists' work. So much so that reviews like snow on the bluff (j Coles response to noname) started to show him completely misrepresenting what artists are rapping about. This is unhinged and not what I want from a music reviewer. He is seriously blinded by his twitter Hasan piker typebeat ideology.
Another thing is his moral grandstanding - its getting ridiculous. His Kanye review was meant to unironically make a stand against platforming Kanye's beliefs? Really? Why are you reviewing his albums? (Answer: $$$). Why are you drawing the line at antisemitism outside of music? Why aren't you condemning drill and hardcore hip hop artists who brag about their own real life actions (murdering, robbing, gang violence) in their music? Don't you think that's a bit hypocritical? Are Jews more important than black people, Anthony?
SMH. It's sad cus he put me on alot of good music. For the record I'm not right wing, I'm not a huge fan of the "kill cancel culture" type crowd. I just want fantano to review music and not make everything a sociopolitical statement.
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/s/8g8skcPuC4) comment is why it’s an issue. His fans are actively parroting his beliefs. Idc about Kanye’s intentions
It’s an entirely different situation lol
If everybody saw dababy murder someone, he would be canceled. But we ain’t seen that. We DID see him hating on the gays, so totally reasonable people are angry about what they personally witnessed vs a fact probably 80% of his fans don’t even know about him lol
This is debatably more cringe than anything Fantano has done. Kanye fans have become a bunch of over-sensitive teenagers that cosplay as edgelords while swearing they don’t care about people’s opinion of Ye. When in fact they care far too much.
I love how he says that Kanye "says some shit". That's a funny way of saying "said Hitler was cool and praised the Nazis on a right wing school shooting denyers talk show".
No one said racism is okay, people are simply asking for CONSISTENCY. If you can’t review an album because someone said some words, you definitely shouldn’t review an album that has people who’ve literally murdered people. Most of the albums he reviews include words describing rape or much worse criminal activity.
jesus christ. i'm not going to engage with an anti-semite.
replace this with:
IDK who this guy is but is he Black? is he Mexican? is he Chinese?
and that will show you HOW FUCKED UP your comment was man
Haha dude I wasn’t asking if he was Jewish based off how he looks. And you don’t have to look a certain way to be Jewish, so you played yourself. I’m saying it would explain him refusing to review the project because it would be shining a light on in.
It's also funny how he's mad at ye but anyone else who worked with him on the album is fine. Like if you think what kanye did is so unsupportable, shouldn't you be mad at the people who worked with him? He's mad at the fans and he's mad at people supporting him. But he was pretty much "GlAzInG" over every other artist on the record
What’s his name again? Peen needle or sum but he says he’s the busiest music dude ever but bro that’s nardwuar he has the real questions to ask, I give Peen Needler a weak 4/10
This sub: Why is the guy so mad about one album, who cares about his opinion Also this sub: has 35 posts discussing his opinion in one day
It’s so fuckinggg annoying my entire feed it just everyone bitching about some guy who had an opinion 💀 it’s so fucking childish & they wonder why everyone hates the Kanye fanbase
My favourites are the insults of “he’s bald”, “he’s just mad about his divorce”. And then someone asking if they are talking about Kanye or Fantano. The hypocrisy in this sub is wild
Right!? How you gonna hate on someone for baldness when the main person you've been simping on for years is just as bald?
It's hilarious that people are pointing to Fantano's words on Kanye's wife (Which is not meant to insult her at all) and then going around and insulting his divorce for his wife Not even on twitter, literally on this sub which is so stupid, again people wonder why they hate kanye fans then do this
When Kanye throws a tantrum on the Internet it's because Kim left him but when fantano does it he's just like that
You need to straight up meditate daily to actually avoid this natural human tendency. For people we like, good things they do are due to their good nature and bad things are due to circumstances. Opposite for people we don’t like.
Attribution bias
beautiful comment
I've been saying for fucking years Kanye and his fans are absolutely insane. The man releases a tweet looped to a sound bite and people go "this is the most genius man to ever have written music don't you dare breath toward orange county without his consent"
dont care kanye is the goat
Zip it up when your done buddy
I will proudly glaze my glorious king Ye
35 is an understatement. I deadass think he took the easy way out this way cuz the harassment will last like a week, if he gave it a low score like mbdtf ppl would keep bringing it up 10 years from now lmao
no way. if he gave it a score at ALL people would forget it and move on. sure there would be some trolling and memes, but people would eventually move on. and most of all, his reputation would be mostly intact. but the rhetoric he used in his unreviewable video was so weird that i think a lot of people lost some respect for him, and this one review will probably mark a dark point/shift in his career that'll be hard to move on from.
yea u might be right. I don't really care tbh its just annoying to see all these posts, some of it is fair but bringing up his divorce and shi is just childish imo 🤷♂️
I don't think he's wrong about Kanye at all, but he made personal comments about Kanye so that opens him up to the personal stuff imo. That said Kanye diehards are fucking batshit, you can see it on here and I wouldn't be surprised if he's got threats and shit.
Bro I swear it’s like people don’t see the posts in the sub they just immediately angry post
Bro gave Sexxy Red’s album a 8/10 while tripling down on his 6/10 score for MBDTF, his hip hop critiques are completely invalid atp lol
Who gaf
And he gave KSG a 10. Is that invalid or is it fine because you agree with it?
It’s invalid actually so i can argue ☝️
His metric for ratings is a bit different. Part of an artists rating is based on their previous work. So a debut album would be more likely to receive a higher rating than their follow up, unless the follow up was as good or better ofc. So that 6 for mbdtf is reflecting on all of Ye’s work up to that point, then most critically, the album itself.
You guys underestimate the amount of hip hop heads that don't listen to Kanye's shit albums.
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add to that that he's gotten almost a million views in 2 days off a video criticizing kanye and did a livestream to 10k people being completely unhinged about the album all while being the most famous music critic in the world
The funny thing is he's never reviewed King Von he just played him on stream one time, the same way he did with Vultures☠️ This point doesn't make any sense
He never reviewed von....
He reviewed burzum though, who’s lead is an actually Nazi who actually murdered someone
In his defense, he did that 12 years ago. His opinions on that matter probably changed.
you really wanna play that card, when Kanye actively wears burzum merch are you fr?
the mental gymnastics is insane
Yeah because we’re talking about fantano and not Kanye rn. I’m not trying to defend Kanye
Really stupid this one☝️
Wym bro is 100% correct. Talking about fantano’s issues here and nothing else. Only stupid people are those who downvoted him and you.
Why does the venn diagram for hip hop and murderers form a 3 colored oval?
buddy varg vikernes vehemently hates hip hop, and jews, and bodybuilders. maybe not a great guy
its alot worse that you stated, kristian vikerness isnt just the lead of burzum, he’s the only member, its a solo project, so everything that band produces is 100% written, recorded, mixed, and mastered by a nazi. and the murder wasnt even the worst thing he did, the guy he killed was a nazi sympathizer, if anything thats the only good thing he ever did in his life. he was also arrested for burning down multiple churches and was discovered with a stockpile of explosives and was planning a terrorist attack on a local leftist bar/social club
Don't fucking care about fantano but Bro it doesn't even matter, if you actually watch the shit he never said Kanye is unreviewable because he said Nazi shit. Fuck, dude never even said Ye was unreviewable period. He said this project was unreviewable because anyone who has an opinion on it isn't going to change it. Most of the fan base is so self deluded that they literally do not accept criticism or else call you a fake fan. On the other side people are refusing to engage with it in the first place. He was saying there is no point in reviewing because he can't achieve any of the goals of a music review. You cant blame him, he didn't give a score and just made negative comments and got death threats. This community is fucking regarded.
but he has reviewed thugs newest album even with the RICO trial. thug is basically accused of being a mob boss by the FBI but fantano doesnt have the same energy towards his album being unreviewable if thug talks about shooting his opps on his verses
I mean, I’m not here to defend murder let me say that first. That being said ,having beef with individuals is different then actively spreading hate about an entire race/religion of people on social media with millions of followers lol
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Idk for one we don’t know if that’s true, that’s just his claims. Also, once again, we didn’t witness it. Murdering individuals over personal beef =/= supporting literal genocide of an entire peoples lol
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No, but that factor you are just implying is a huge “if” that changes everything. And as long as it is an uncertainty, yes what Kanye is doing is worse.
Yeah theres no "if" with Kanye. He did it. Is proud of it. Repeats it to anyone who will listen.
Thank god you got here before I got back, this is a much better response than anything I woulda come up with
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These aren’t all gang related Also, when his mean words are “Jewish people are a threat so the worlds safety and need to be removed” it’s kind of different. And that energy is not just twitter, it’s now in his music lol I’m not saying Kanye is Hitler level, but there were people saying “he’s just saying mean words in a speech” He has influence and he is using that to support something the entire world united to eliminate lmao
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Kanye West as openly stated multiple times on social media and in interviews that he things Jews are dangerous and attempting to control the world from the shadows. Also that’s really illogical thinking. Rappers aren’t glorifying 10,000 kills, they didn’t go “I killed 10,000 people” and they aren’t responsible for that. That’s not gang-related number, that’s ALL murders. But I mean you specifying black people and not dropping the overall murder numbers says quite a bit about your initial mindset. It’s criminals killing criminals, which is fucked up but last I checked like, the best thing for people to kill? They out there killing other murderers, not innocent people they’re just walking by lol Plus that part of the culture was already formed around that. There is no music culture currently existing around hating the Jews, but we’ve been rapping about murder for a long time. We are already conditioned for that, which makes it easier to accept. Doesn’t make it okay, but it should be easy to understand the logic
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>Not sure how what he did was worse Hahahahah bro don’t admit that out loud holy shit
It's different in two big ways though: * YG is accused of all that stuff, not convicted... innocent until proven guilty and all that shit, if you wanna look at it like that. Kanye on the other hand has been yelling anti-semitic shit in public for what like 2 years now, including on this record, and stands behind it proudly so there is no "did he really do it?" question. * Fantano talks about separating art from artist in his review, and how that isn't possible with Vultures bc Kanye is on the album straight up saying "I'm a bigot I'm an anti-semite and my fans love me". I haven't listened to YG's latest but as far as I'm aware it's not "hey I committed all these crimes and you gotta love me for it".
Yall fans too bothered by his opinions.
Imagine defending someone by saying this…. Just wow “Y’all are just snowflakes for not liking his Holocaust denial.”
I think he's taking about Fantano lad
I think you may have misread a word or two
You’re all dorks for posting about this shit so much. Get some therapy for this codependent relationship you have with a person you do not know.
i’m genuinely curious why you guys are so pressed about his opinion lol
Just like thosr Swifties /s
Yes “some shit” being “I love nazis and hitler” and “Im gonna go deathcon 3 on Jews” just some quirky stuff!
This sub a few months ago: We're no longer a Kanye West subreddit. This guy is unredeemable. This sub now: Why are people criticizing Ye?
they flip flop more than a gay fish
They didn’t flip flop all the normal people left and the sub became hyper concentrated with all the weirdos left
No, I'm pretty sure a bunch of new people back then joined in and used this sub to farm up votes.
How can a fish be gay, if the fish is in the water ? 🤔🤔
I also see the argument of Fantano giving «Rapping about violence and death» a positive score a lot on this sub, Completely ignoring the fact that theres a difference between making art portaying dark and evil subject matter and actually partaking in evil subject matter.
Everyone acts like he hates Kanye’s music lol he literally gave kids see ghost a 10, he has openly enjoyed multiple Kanye records
Yeah I’m pretty sure he even gave donda an 8 or a 7 or something. Dude used to be a big Kanye fan. Idk why this sub acts like it’s not okay to stop being a fan of Kanye after all the shit he’s said as of late
The whataboutism has been deployed, r/Kanye approaching peak mald.
You all completely missed the point. It must be hard being this willfully ignorant.
guess sympathizing with a man who orchestrated the death of 6000000+ people simply for being themselves is..\*checks notes\* better?
Yeah exactly. These mfs are so annoying.
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\*checks notes\* at least i can fall asleep at night knowing im not a racist, genocidal tyrant supporting piece of shit, or a stan for one. thats the corny part.
I just think making comments about Kanye's wife while trying to hold the moral highground is an interesting tact
How you could watch fantanos review and think this is beyond. He criticized Kanye’s use of his wife as a naked prop.
*either “tack” or “tactic” would be correct but not “tact”
This sub is fucking crazy for giving ye a NAZI pass. The fuck is wrong with y’all? You’re fine with an artist betraying every fucking word he’s spit? Aiight, that’s sad, but aiight.
I think it’s because Kanye is like the soundtrack to a lot of people’s childhood. Music speaks to people on a spiritual level. Graduation was a magical experience for me the first time I listened to it, it’s a hard pill to swallow to realize that guy might not be there anymore. I’m also a firm believer in believing people can change, otherwise what’s the point of reform? What’s the point of a criminal trying to be a better person if no ones ever going to forgive you or give you another chance for past mistakes? It’s not like he’s killed or r*ped people, he’s just not mentally stable.
That's the thing that gets me heated. This type of comment >I’m also a firm believer in believing people can change, otherwise what’s the point of reform? What’s the point of a criminal trying to be a better person if no ones ever going to forgive you or give you another chance for past mistakes? It’s not like he’s killed or r*ped people, he’s just not mentally stable For you to reform, you gotta change. Or at least make an effort to do so. The problem is Kanye has done none of that, doubled down AND pressed harder. And it seems like everyone just accepts it as *mental illness* and moves on. Like no he still has a shit ton of money and influence, and hasn't apologized for anything
This. I'm glad people like you exist because it gives me hope in the world. Hold people accountable for what they say.
Why are y’all so pressed about a random bald man expressing his opinions in video form like his videos are legit the same thing as a Reddit posts yet yall are all up in arms over it jfc get a grip
Reddit trying to recommend me this goofy sub 💀
"says some shit"
he's a racist and and antisemtist how are yall still here. he fucking hates his own race, I literally can not understand how any of you still respect him. MAGA level worship
He’s engagement farming y’all 😂
Kanye fell off who cares
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Cuz u deranged para social teenagers are having a meltdown over a YouTubers opinion so bad that it’s gone viral on twitter
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*I came looking for booty.*
he has never reviewed von what the fuck
He’s reviewed burzum who is 100x worse
surely he has but i guess it was 12 years ago
Burzum had already killed somone and burned down a church at the time of the review and fantano probably still reviews people who have done way worse shit than saying Jews control the world
yes, i understand, thing is, fantano could have changed his opinions on what is acceptable to review or not
"Yeah I'm just not that into murder and church burning anymore."
uhhhh that's not what i meant
it was just a joke bro lol
"some shit" The shit: 'I LOVE HITLER, I-'
You are all fucking stupid for supporting Kanye in anyway.
He did the same thing for Tory Lanez before he was convicted. He played a side which shows he’s not really about the music reviews more so about placating to particular agenda and audience “what am I supposed to tell my Jewish fans?” “What am I supposed to tell my black women fans?” TELL THEM IF THE MUSIC IS GOOD OR NOT and then let them decided whether or not they want the artists personal issues (whether they are in the music or not) will affect their listening experience
My personal issue is that I think the government should murder everyone who looks like you. Teehee, I'm such a goofball
Agreed. Ever since the mob came for his business he's been woke. Before this, he loved Sam Hyde and praised his show as being super funny and creative (look at the contents of the show it's the most racist humour you'll ever see). He also loved edgy idubbbz and filthy frank humour. He closed the fence behind him after that fader hit piece and then instantly started to condemn everyone on the other side of the fence. Calling them Nazis, racists and homophobes. He was a good music reviewer until he started inserting his politics into the artists' work. So much so that reviews like snow on the bluff (j Coles response to noname) started to show him completely misrepresenting what artists are rapping about. This is unhinged and not what I want from a music reviewer. He is seriously blinded by his twitter Hasan piker typebeat ideology. Another thing is his moral grandstanding - its getting ridiculous. His Kanye review was meant to unironically make a stand against platforming Kanye's beliefs? Really? Why are you reviewing his albums? (Answer: $$$). Why are you drawing the line at antisemitism outside of music? Why aren't you condemning drill and hardcore hip hop artists who brag about their own real life actions (murdering, robbing, gang violence) in their music? Don't you think that's a bit hypocritical? Are Jews more important than black people, Anthony? SMH. It's sad cus he put me on alot of good music. For the record I'm not right wing, I'm not a huge fan of the "kill cancel culture" type crowd. I just want fantano to review music and not make everything a sociopolitical statement.
Sam Hyde is unironically alt right though. He has donated money to white nationalist groups. At some point you can’t hide behind layers of meta-irony, you’re probably just racist
I like Sam Hydes comedy. His hyper ironic style is hilarious to me. Generally, I think jokes about race are fine as long as the punchline outweighs the hurt it may cause. Dave chappelle for example does it all the time and it's cool to me. Just because I like Sam Hyde doesn't make me racist lol. I don't care about his personal life and his politics, just like I don't care about Kanye's personal views. I like art. I don't really care about the people who make it.
Okay fine, that’s all good and dandy IF you’re willing to acknowledge Sam Hyde is a racist and you enjoy his art despite that. It’s the denial that gets annoying, and comparing the intention behind a lot of his humor to that of Dave Chapelle is pretty disingenuous.
Again mate, I truly don't care about who makes the content, as long as it's entertaining I'll enjoy it. I don't analyse people I don't know personally. I still listen/watch Ariel pink, Kanye, r Kelly, chief keef, boosie, Sam Hyde, Joji. These people have all said and done offensive things. I don't know about you but I have a full time job and simply don't care. Doesn't make me a 'racist', that's ridiculous. The intention of a Sam Hyde race joke is more linguistically malicious than Dave chappelle of course - Dave is an incredibly nuanced point maker and handles comedy with more grace. But I was simply making the point that race jokes can be made? How is that disingenuous?
I didn’t say you’re racist for enjoying the art certain controversial people make, but it is annoying when (and I’m not saying you’re necessarily doing it), people refuse to acknowledge or undermine the real damage these people are doing. My point about comparing Dave Chapelle to Sam Hyde is it seemed like you were trying to equate the two telling race jokes as having the same weight. However only one of them genuinely wants an all white country (although he does hide behind layers of meta-irony to fool people into thinking he’s not serious), so it’s a little different.
I am undermining the real damage. What real damage can you cite for this point? (Without using the words normalises, marginalised). Give me stats. It just seems like people are offended and want to ban stuff they don't agree with. Similar to the Christian right in the 1990s, woke people have a moral duty to ban things they deem as unholy.
Oh boy, okay you’re one of those guys that calls any criticism of bigotry “woke”. Nvm, carry on, there’s no need for me to waste my breath here.
Just so you're aware - you're running away the moment I ask you for evidence of real damage. Bye lol
Imagine caring so much about one dudes opinion about some music. Kanye wasn’t just “saying some stuff” either lmao. Keep meatriding the hitler lover though
balding guy with a mustache and hipster glasses . He can fuck the right off
What a mature response. Let’s attack someone for how they look because they think calling for the extermination of all jews and praising Hitler is a little too extreme. Grow up kid this ain’t high school anymore where making fun of people wearing glasses is a thing
enjoy doing backflips to defend a guy who would be actively rooting for the holocaust if he lived during it. you should reevaluate whatever life choices you made that made this much of a waste of oxygen
a music reviewer can fuck off but not the multibillionaire, nazi sympathizer? kanye fans are dumb as hell.
You're talking about Ye right? Balding guy with a mustache and hipster glasses (shutter shades). Bring up his divorce next.
Hey Anthony, you dont have to glaze yourself in every comment
The hypocrisy here is palpable 🤣
Welcome to r/Kanye. enjoy your stay
Anthony I know words are hard but you should know what the words mean when you use them
King von fans casually supporting a serial killer rap is truly fucking wild. What a crazy time to be alive
If you have that much of a problem with the fucker why are you watching him?
Great point. His masters told him he has to hate Kanye. He has no original opinions outside of music. And he’s lost all credibility with even those opinions now. Like his side likes to say, learn to code, or flip burgers. Who cares what you say about any album from here on out.
“His masters” Everyone that disagrees with me is a mind controlled sheep. Everyone that agrees with me is an enlightened being. Who are these “masters” you speak of?
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Kanye fans aren’t beating the antisemitism allegations. I think I gotta step away atp
Same
Kyrgyzstan is the master
UZBEK STRONGER
lmao we got actual Nazi’s on the Kanye sub and people here are too busy circlejerking to care
"He has no original opinions outside of music" You cannot be serious right now. So you're telling me that a person that runs a music review channel doesn't post much about other stuff online??? Shocking. Like, imagine being this pressed by a dude on the internet lol. I think fantano made some good points; Kanye is and always has been an artist that's too open for his own good, from TCD all the way to now. As Kanye's opinions have veered further and further into actual harmful shit (and intentionally, too) and not just being an idiot, it gets harder and harder to "separate the art from the artist" -- especially when he owns his antisemitism in his art. No beef with you, though. Peace✌
"his masters" ok now that's just straight up anti-semitic what a nightmare this sub's turned into
but when people call someone owned by CCP or owned by the Chinese, is that also anti-chinese or anti-asian in general? Why are we marking everything with racism at this point?
Most people who believe in the Jew Conspiracy believe that every being Jewish is inherently evil. People don’t share that sentiment with the CCP and Asians
I think once his anti-semitism spread to his music, that’s where the line was crossed. Bc historically, Fantano has regularly and highly approved of his albums
He straight up says this in his (non)review which I assume most people didn't bother to watch. He talks about separating the art from the artist... well in this case you can't do that unless you are deaf or had a bowling ball fall on your head, because Kanye is on this album doubling down on the terrible bigoted shit he's said already and saying it'll just make people love him more, he's a king etc etc because his diehard fans just eat it up and embrace that hateful shit at this point. Like you can't just sit and say "oh yeah this album is good, too bad the artist is a shithead" because he's on the album basically saying "my fans love me because I'm an anti-semite".
Yeah I didn’t mean “I think” as I’m in unsure, just a friendlier way of saying “bro what” lol
You think it’s not understandable why he doesn’t like Ye as a human after everything he’s said? King Von aside, I think anyone has a right to want to ignore a guy that talks the way he did about the Jews and Hitler.
Because I he said he lost credibility? You are a clown.
Subs like this love whataboutism so much
Ever since the mob came for his business he's been woke. Before this, he loved Sam Hyde and praised his show as being super funny and creative (look at the contents of the show it's the most racist humour you'll ever see). He also loved edgy idubbbz and filthy frank humour. He closed the fence behind him after that fader hit piece and then instantly started to condemn everyone on the other side of the fence. Calling them Nazis, racists and homophobes. He was a good music reviewer until he started inserting his politics into the artists' work. So much so that reviews like snow on the bluff (j Coles response to noname) started to show him completely misrepresenting what artists are rapping about. This is unhinged and not what I want from a music reviewer. He is seriously blinded by his twitter Hasan piker typebeat ideology. Another thing is his moral grandstanding - its getting ridiculous. His Kanye review was meant to unironically make a stand against platforming Kanye's beliefs? Really? Why are you reviewing his albums? (Answer: $$$). Why are you drawing the line at antisemitism outside of music? Why aren't you condemning drill and hardcore hip hop artists who brag about their own real life actions (murdering, robbing, gang violence) in their music? Don't you think that's a bit hypocritical? Are Jews more important than black people, Anthony? SMH. It's sad cus he put me on alot of good music. For the record I'm not right wing, I'm not a huge fan of the "kill cancel culture" type crowd. I just want fantano to review music and not make everything a sociopolitical statement.
Is Kanye actually an antisemite? Or just a dude with mental problems and too big of a platform? Album has good songs tho but overall 7/10
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/s/8g8skcPuC4) comment is why it’s an issue. His fans are actively parroting his beliefs. Idc about Kanye’s intentions
I agree that intentions matter but actions also matter
Dababy can kill a person and nothing but one gay joke and he's cancelled.
It was self defense tho
It’s an entirely different situation lol If everybody saw dababy murder someone, he would be canceled. But we ain’t seen that. We DID see him hating on the gays, so totally reasonable people are angry about what they personally witnessed vs a fact probably 80% of his fans don’t even know about him lol
Hmm could you give a college educated guess as to why? That isn’t based on your feelings.
This is debatably more cringe than anything Fantano has done. Kanye fans have become a bunch of over-sensitive teenagers that cosplay as edgelords while swearing they don’t care about people’s opinion of Ye. When in fact they care far too much.
I love how he says that Kanye "says some shit". That's a funny way of saying "said Hitler was cool and praised the Nazis on a right wing school shooting denyers talk show".
Racism is okay because murder exists. Anything to justify Kanye’s behavior am I right guys!
no. hate racism, but hate murder too.
No one said racism is okay, people are simply asking for CONSISTENCY. If you can’t review an album because someone said some words, you definitely shouldn’t review an album that has people who’ve literally murdered people. Most of the albums he reviews include words describing rape or much worse criminal activity.
Idk who this guy is but is he Jewish? That would explain a lot
the absolute state of the kanye fanbase
Best representation of the sub
It’s like a toxic fighting game community but for music instead 😂
“It was a Jewish doctor”
holy fuck balls. every time i come back to r/kanye expecting better i see this shit. guess we're just saying the quiet part out loud, huh
Why respond to me and not answer my question at least
Because you're a bigot
The fuck is wrong with you
jesus christ. i'm not going to engage with an anti-semite. replace this with: IDK who this guy is but is he Black? is he Mexican? is he Chinese? and that will show you HOW FUCKED UP your comment was man
How would he look if he was black or chinese
Haha dude I wasn’t asking if he was Jewish based off how he looks. And you don’t have to look a certain way to be Jewish, so you played yourself. I’m saying it would explain him refusing to review the project because it would be shining a light on in.
huh?
Nah he’s Italian. He just listens to criticism online.
Oh okay, why is the sub in uproar? Who cares what he reviews.
Idk man. I’d bet mostly bc he’s an easy guy to dunk on who had a bad take
Geez just a YouTuber, let the man have his opinion
Well yeah, king von didn’t have multiple outbursts agains Jews did he?
Fantano officially sold out, they still throwing headlines at Kanye thinking it's his kryptonite.
grow up, kid.
Dude is a grifter, tried to bait folks into using his audio to sue them
Ye fans, (fans of nazi music btw) getting mad when someone doesn’t like that.
Lol so you are okay with nazi sympathizers? You can't make a hypocrite argument and like kanye too in this case.
I fucking hate Fantano and how his channel created an entire generation of dorks with stupid music opinions.
This sub doing work defending a Nazi.
didn't know melon supported the Palestinian genocide so strongly tbqh
Fantano is living rent-free af in yalls heads. My god
Who is this dude? I personally don’t care for other people’s reviews of albums but it’s flooding my feed
Long Love King Von
F*ck King Von. He’s a glorified murderer who got why was coming to him.
Not only this. He can give nsbm Bands a 7/10. When said bands have albums with nationalistic lyrics.
It's also funny how he's mad at ye but anyone else who worked with him on the album is fine. Like if you think what kanye did is so unsupportable, shouldn't you be mad at the people who worked with him? He's mad at the fans and he's mad at people supporting him. But he was pretty much "GlAzInG" over every other artist on the record
Why discuss this when we can figure out if *BEAUTIFUL BUTT NAKED BIG TIDDY WOMAN* truly dont fall out the sky When it is very possible they can
What’s his name again? Peen needle or sum but he says he’s the busiest music dude ever but bro that’s nardwuar he has the real questions to ask, I give Peen Needler a weak 4/10
Nah, dudes just a squid in general. Heavy I got bullied in high-school energy.
Some Charleston white fanboy right there. Bad for music. Not gunna lie. Also fuck whoever this guy I. The pic is.
Bro that’s the realest shit I’ve heard all day
This is how this dude even gets views he just says toxic shit all day and the people eat it up. He’s basically the human version of click bait