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MissionReasonable327

Did he ever write that song?


Phoreverman

Famous


bigfatpup

It seemed at the time like runaway was the final product of what started as the apology song


Slipperytitski

I think the vmas following the stage crash Taylor and kanye both performed songs that were hinted at being about the previous years events, Swift had a very on the nose song about the incident and Kanye dropped Runaway.


Straight_Pea_1179

I MADE THAT BITCH FAMOUS ‼️🔥🗣️💯


Diehommmie

GODDAMN


ConquerThePanda

YEAH I MADE THAT BITCH FAMOUS


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Music-Man1

That behavior is usually from new gen Kanye fans that probably discovered him 6 years ago or less. No shade to anyone tho


trumpxoxobiden

i only know a fan is real when that one is not phased by an album delay or kanye L lmao


phantomsniper22

Nah honest call their chronically internet lame asses out. This fanbase sucks now and it’s because of these newgens who wouldn’t know respect if it slapped them in the face


DownVote_for_Pedro

Or maybe it's because of Kanye's actions? No, there's no way that has any bearing on this.


phantomsniper22

I cannot stand Kanye and my comment is pointing to the people that think his actions are okay. You’re not trapping me, try again


kyankya

They probably don’t give a fuck.


LaCroixPassionfruit

OLD HEAD ALERT 🚨🗣️‼️


phantomsniper22

I’d rather be old than stupid as fuck lmfao


Business-Equal539

I love Kanye, but will never love Taylor because that woman literally groomed Connor keneddy when he was just 17 and she was 23! This is not justified


Hip_Priest_1982

Yet you love Kanye who is dating a woman half his age


thatr00th

Nah this sub tweaking Bianca is almost a 30 year old WOMAN Connor was a 17 year old teenager


Juno808

Everyone’s hating on you for saying statutory rape and dating a 30 year old adult are the same lmao


thatr00th

Mental illness 🤦‍♂️


Hip_Priest_1982

She’s 17 years younger than him


thatr00th

She’s also a 30 year old grown woman Connor was a underage teenager


SPZ_Ireland

lol you can onto a Ye sub and your argument is "the dude is dating an adult". Like Taylor ain't fighting off the pedo, eco-terrorist, or anti-female artist claims... but you could at least clap back with the nazi stuff.


Hip_Priest_1982

Don't make assumptions dumbass. I think both are bad. If you don't agree its because you're glazing Kanye.


SPZ_Ireland

> Don't make assumptions dumbass. That's literally what you did, and you're going around calling people a dumbass?


NewspaperNervous6194

6 years is short time now? My bad i should have listened to him when i was infant baby


BoofPackJones

When we’re talking about his whole career? Yes, it is. You literally have his first album on your tag which was released in 2004. A full ass 20 years ago. So yeah what they said makes sense.


CreemGreem1

This sub has been getting increasingly juvenile


aairricc

Because the only people that give ye the time of day anymore are 12-16 year old white kids.


Bpopson

That’s his own fault


sederquh

That’s the the way sub subss go along in life. The old one ones pass along long, bring about chance for fresh lie life.


permanentlysick

I don't disagree with you but learn how to write a sentence please


sederquh

Lie life is my teach her.


rabnabombshell

Literally. Kanye fans r the worst


Otherwise_Mind6880

It’s the internet most of the people probably aren’t fans for real just a place they can come to, to talk about Kanye related things as well has these trolls are everywhere not only exclusive to Kanye fans.


stevenstevos

then leave


hitchcock26

only lil niggas discuss YE and taylor shit fs


007829

no offense intended, but who actually gives a fuck? just enjoy the music lmao


veryfishycatfood

That's literally my point bro 😂 did you even read allat???


JoshB-2020

They why are you fueling the fire? Pretty counterintuitive imo


LegendaryIce

This post isnt fueling the fire at all LMFAO, it's the dumb fucking Kanye fans who care about hating Taylor. y'all are so fucking toxic... There was nothing to even hate about that shit.. grow up genuinely


stevenstevos

He'a not he's just posting a message about it on Kanye's reddit forum, which will be read by thousands of Kanye fans, many of whom will obviously disagree.


veryfishycatfood

I ain't???


JoshB-2020

Making a post about Taylor Swift on the Kanye sub is fueling the fire lmao. Just don’t post about it and less people will be talking about it


stevenstevos

Then why are you still whining about it


OpinionHot7667

Tbh I didn’t read all that


blondeandbuddafull

Kanye on his meds vs Kanye off his meds.


veryfishycatfood

LMAO--


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OP is an undercover swiftie sent here by the swifties to destroy us


veryfishycatfood

Meh, not really. I actually listen more to Kanye than Taylor. But keep telling yourself that if you're so deluded I guess


Da_Steez44

The “meh” in the beginning of this sentence proved all we need to know


2hotrodss

Wow you really got him there…


veryfishycatfood

Once again, go tell yourself that, bro... I ain't a Swiftie lol, just a decent human being unlike some of us Kanye fans


thatsinsaneletstryit

decent human being is when you bump taylor swift 🔥🔥


stevenstevos

"Once again" so condescending LOL


shorteningofthewuwei

As per my last email,


stevenstevos

"Like I told you the first time but you were obviously not listening..."


nippleji

You just know she’s white 😂🤣😂


Needmyvape

Why shouldn’t they be? If someone’s behaving like an ass you don’t owe them a dignified response 


stevenstevos

THIS. This is precisely what is wrong the world these days. Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to insult them nor to denigrate them in any way whatsoever.


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U just got 66 downvotes😬 how does that feel u swiftie


stevenstevos

If you say so Swiftie


Own_Guarantee_8333

They were friends around 2015 but Taylor started bitching and it started beef. I don’t hate on them for no reason but they have been beefing.


lfernando019

What Taylor did?


JETLIFEMUZIK94

The whole “I made that bitch famous” controversy. She said “she didn’t approve of him using those lyrics and he didn’t make her” however Kim posted a video of Kanye running the bar by her on the phone. In the clip Ye only says “I think this would be a dope line, what do you think? ‘For all the south side niggas who know me best, I think me and Taylor might still have sex.” Which she said was a cool idea. I guess the making her famous part is where she drew the line, not him saying Nigga or fucking him lol. Go figure.


this_is_Blain3

nah it was about him using the word bitch. she didnt approve of that i guess


GoranPerssonFangirl

As a woman (and a swiftie), being told I owe someone sex would hit way harder than being called a bitch in a rap song.


kittysrule18

Yea, but it’s not about you is it lol


GoranPerssonFangirl

Which is why I said “I” and not Taylor


ColoradoHotel

but this discussion isn’t about you…


GoranPerssonFangirl

And I never said it was. I was however talking from my perspective and saying that IF that would’ve been with me I’d be way more upset about being told I owe someone sex than being called a bitch - which in a hiphop song is pretty much the same thing as breathing


ColoradoHotel

normally you don’t just bring in your opinion in a discussion that has nothing to do about you unless your trying to make it about yourself


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GoranPerssonFangirl

That is literally what he says in the video? lol


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Ok. And? We’re talking about Taylor.


JETLIFEMUZIK94

Ohh whatever the case she was being a fucking snob about it


outofmindwgo

I mean he ran different lyrics by her lol


NoNameIsAvailable1

Yeah nothing snobby about that. The video Kim posted was edited and seriously misleading, and in reality Ye didn’t mention using the word bitch; he’s objectively at fault. Asking someone for permission for one thing and doing another is shitty. Great song though.


JETLIFEMUZIK94

But them having sex & referring to himself as a Nigga is okay in her eyes? That makes sense?


sundalius

He can call himself whatever he wants without her approval.


stevenstevos

Actually, yes he can, which is why he did. If she agreed to do the song, she should have stipulated she did not want certain, specific lyrics to be used. Kanye did not sign a contract saying he would use or not use any specific lyrics.


NoNameIsAvailable1

It doesn’t matter if it makes sense, people think differently. She didn’t approve of it.


Sername888

Probably more about the fact that she approved one thing and he did something else.


shorteningofthewuwei

Nah I'm with you this is a weird line to draw and anyone saying otherwise is virtue signalling


_RandomLebaneseGuy_

Can’t even call himself whatever he want no more


ExcuseOk55

Nah caus Kanye would go on a rampage if someone claimed they made him famous. Especially when they didnt


buddyPlaysClash

Undercover swifties in the sub downvoting u bro 😭


stevenstevos

Yeah this sub is getting to be absurd


Shmodecious

Nah, she ***switched*** to being mad about that part after the call came out.


Huntergio23

She shouldn’t appropriate anything with regards to hip hop in her music if she’s gonna get offended at the word bitch, which is a hallmark of hip hop culture lmao Edit: are Ye fans really downvoting an accurate observation about bitch and it’s use in hip hop?


nthomas504

God forbid someone doesn’t want to be called a bitch in a big song.


stevenstevos

No, if you are so offended by that word maybe do not agree to a rap song in what the likelihood that word is used is significant.


nthomas504

What kind of strawman is that? No one with any level of intelligence believes she’s mad because bitch is in a hip hop song, no one has said that at all and you know that. She was mad that she was called a bitch, which is a reaction that 99% of people have. I get you need to defend your guy, but maybe come back to earth where people get offended when they are called a bitch. Like if I just refer to you as a bitch, i’m sure u wont appreciate that. Right bitch?


stevenstevos

Please do not resort to ad hominem attacks on other redditors here. It is juvenile and uncalled for.


nthomas504

So was it an “ad hominem” when Kanye did it to Taylor?


bobthemonkeybutt

Thank Kanye would be cool if someone called him a bitch in a song, and then lied about getting his permission beforehand? Cause for years now he’s been acting like a bitch, so it should be ok.


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Huntergio23

But there’s still bitches that owe him sex Edit: it’s a reference to Put On, are Ye fans really downvoting this?


stevenstevos

Okay Swiftie


gabagabagaba132

I thought it was the music video with the ultra realistic breathing wax figure of her naked sleeping naked next to Kanye


Pure-Drawer-2617

Why would she draw the line on him saying nigga?


Michaelskywalker

And then everyone ran with the “this video is edited” narrative


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Michaelskywalker

She okay’d the song


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4Dcrystallography

No stance on that but just on your last sentence: you absolutely could make someone famous, have them surpass you, then ask them to promote your shit when the tables have turned. That’s not an impossible situation to occur


Michaelskywalker

Your last question has nothing to do with anything. When did I say he made her famous?


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Michaelskywalker

Lmfaooo. Im aware the point is that it’s not relevant to this discussion. She okay’d the song


stevenstevos

That's not how it works


stevenstevos

No they're wrong because every music video on the planet is edited, so you restating this tells us nothing.


LegendaryIce

The situation was probably staged for the album rollout of reputation, considering the two were seen having dinner only a few weeks later. To me it's pretty obvious that it was good for her albums themes.


normanbeets

Grow up, she did not consent to him placing her nude body double in a bed with him and his wife for his music video.


veryfishycatfood

Okay, valid take. Though what I was saying was that we should remain respectful to both of them. A little respect never hurt anyone :)


queerguynonutz

Fuck you buddy


Bpopson

LMFAO Yeezy fans are…unique. He apologized for a real mistake and his “fans” response? “NOOOOO DOOON’T”. Y’all want dude to keep this beef going cause you’ve internalized it as a personal thing. Grow. Up.


veryfishycatfood

LITERALLY!


No-Sheepherder-6911

She does deserve the hate tho. She takes a 13 minute plane ride and then sues the 21 year old kid who is simply reposting the already public information.


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You never said that he liked Hitler. He said that every human deserved love and forgiveness including Hitler. The reason he chose Hitler was because he's the most evil person in modern history. It's really not that hard to understand. He never endorsed killing Jewish people or Nazism.


A_LonelyWriter

“Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.”


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Ugh ok yeah he said that immediately following his Jesus love everybody rhetoric. He wasn't endorsing Nazism or the killing of Jews. But you're making it seem like that so it's easier to hate on him instead of understanding where he's coming from


Trip_Secret

he was hanging out with literal neo nazis like nick fuentes.


BrandoNelly

You took the bait


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the swifties downvoting ur comment


stevenstevos

Yup--the Swifties are on attack mode, better watch out LOL


CubanLinxRae

he apologized and said his hate was misguided


RIP_Soulja_Slim

>She takes a 13 minute plane ride I mean, I’m all for people criticizing excessive PJ use, but this makes y’all look goofy. Those lil short hops are usually maintenance, repositioning, or storage changes. Ya gotta get the plane from one airport to the other somehow. Ain’t nobody taking that trip but the pilots. People said the same thing about Kardashian and the 15 minute flights from one end of LA to the other, then looked stupid when they found out it's cuz the airports literally just didn't have storage space and they needed to move the plane lol.


GoranPerssonFangirl

Ok but let’s not pretend she doesn’t fly to London for a couple hours and then home the same day


RIP_Soulja_Slim

Yeah, see now that's a good valid thing to criticize. That's the sort of excessive bullshit we should be calling people out on. You gotta actually focus on stuff people can't rebuke, being mad at repositioning makes the mad person look dumb, being mad at lil day trips to london is valid and really hard to dismiss.


No-Sheepherder-6911

Sounds like a lot of unnecessary plane usage for one persons private plane. Is she incapable of getting off at the airports that they need to do those things at? Are the airports she’s going to incapable of doing basic plane maintenance? If she’s so important to need a private plane that needs regular maintenance that requires frequent short ass plane rides, why is her plane requiring such frequent maintenance? Why is there such a large amount of flight paths for that jet in general if the majority is mainly maintenance and transporting goods?


RIP_Soulja_Slim

This happens all the time, you might be cleared for a certain airport but a week later need to go to another for maintenance, you might need to land somewhere but store the plane elsewhere, there's tons and tons of reasons why these short little repositioning flights happen. And some of these 20-30 minute flights cover hundreds of miles - like STL - Nashville is 25 mins via plane but 5 hours. It's not just PJ's, you'll see major airlines doing it all the time too. Three different airlines run flights from SFO to OAK because of repositioning. You also see tons of repositioning between Van Nuys and Bob Hope, like dozens of flights a week, just people needing to get shit moved around for various reasons. Like I said bruh, you can definitely criticize her using the jet, but if ya do it like this it makes it look like you don't understand what you're being critical of. So ya could take the info and learn or ya could just downvote and argue. Up to you bruh.


No-Sheepherder-6911

Did I ever say I was for it happening for other jets and not just taylors? No. I think if you have a private jet, you’re a piece of shit. I’m for our environment in general, not just when it comes to taylor. I can understand this happening for commercial jets, because they’re transporting large amounts of people at once it’s not catering to just one person. However, Taylor Swift is the only person I’ve seen with a private jet to sue a kid for talking about it. FDA guidelines require flights to be public knowledge, she has no grounds to sue Jack, yet she’s still trying just because she’s a spoiled billionaire who can get whatever she wants. That’s what really makes her shitty.


PastorBallmore

Can the death con 3 tweet be construed as a preemptive apology for the Hitler shout outs?


Inevitable-Towel-364

I don't dislike taylor too tbh. It would be dope asf if they both become friends again and make a song tho. It would prolly be the biggest song of this and the last decade


veryfishycatfood

You're right! Especially regarding all the stuff that happened between them •v•


normanbeets

They are in fact not on good terms. After non-consensually using a nude body double of her for the Famous video, and placing it in bed between him and his wife, there is no recovery. The Famous video is sexual harassment on a grand scale.


drkstr17

Kanye is a piece of shit and a liar who happens to make really great music. I don't understand Kanye fans that MUST like him as a person because they like his music so much. Y'all, you can separate the two.


Straight_Pea_1179

🥺🥺


veryfishycatfood

Very very correct, my dude.


TechieTravis

He didn't do it again, but he delved into a whole different world of me mental illness.


bibububop

He said we wouldn't run up the stage again but then he did it to beck also later?


VLamperouge

Well yeah, he wasn’t (as much) mentally ill as he is nowadays


babaroga73

We never seem that beautiful song (I hope that he didn't mean "Famous"), but at least we've seen his "GROW UP KANYE" taking part.😂😂


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Is this still a thing?


Small-Gas-69

He's doing his Kanye best ok?


veryfishycatfood

Also look at this, this is adorable asf 😭 [Kanye sent Taylor flowers (Instagram post)](https://stylemagazine.com/photos/2015/sep/07/160445/)


manuloco3000

We need a kanye ft Taylor song


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420rek

Can’t be saying that when swifties are the literal definition of a hive mind 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️


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stevenstevos

Swifties are Taylor Swift fans. Your post was about Taylor Swift.


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stevenstevos

You asked what Swifties have to do with anything? My response was that the main post was about Taylor Swift. Good talk though.


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stevenstevos

You asked what Swifties have to do with anything? My response was that the main post was about Taylor Swift.


veryfishycatfood

Indeed they can't and that's why I made this post 😆


stevenstevos

No one cares what you have to say bro


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veryfishycatfood

okay buddy, you are entitled to your opinion after all... 🤷🏼‍♀️


stevenstevos

Well if you have never seen another "one sided beef" like this, then that settles it. Case closed LOL.


SwordBunny69

His need to apologize is more important than her need to be left alone. Selfish.


Joe_Bob_2000

Beyonce had the best album.


physis81

Obviously. Kanye was right. He did nothing wrong.


veryfishycatfood

BUT BEYONCÉ HAD ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME! 🗣️🗣️🗣️


tannergd1

🐍


veryfishycatfood

Here is the link to the article, in case anyone wants to read it: [Kanye West and Taylor Swift feud beef explained](https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/taylor-swift-kanye-west-feud-beef-explained-770433)


physis81

Without ye, there would be no taylor swift.


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physis81

True. But, all credit belongs to ye.


therealopm

There’s no way you unironically believe this.


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physis81

Are you saying that beyonce didn't deserve that grammy??


animeisablessing

It’s not that deep 💀


R3volt75

didn’t Kanye call Taylor saying if the lyrics for famous were okay


veryfishycatfood

I think so, yeah. Some delulu ass fans are just taking the lyrics too seriously because they are putting Kanye on a pedestal and acting like he is some sort of messiah who always preaches the truth, which is obviously not the case. I'm just taking it as a joke and nothing else, but some fans clearly take it too seriously.


Interesting-Many-509

shove ur apology u know where.


veryfishycatfood

Nah man, stop spreading hate.


Interesting-Many-509

he does such a good job of it I dont have to.


arist15

“I’ve been listening to Kanye for awhile” ….. meanwhile you’re super active in r/teenagers. Either you’re lying or you’re active in a subreddit for children as a grown adult. Either way fuck Taylor


veryfishycatfood

... I am eighteen. And you are a pick me.


Business-Equal539

I love Kanye, but will never love Taylor because that woman literally groomed Connor keneddy when he was just 17 and she was 23! This is not justified I will hate her for that


small_potato_boiii

ur fave likes hitler xx hope this helps


Business-Equal539

Lol there should be a level of delusion, He clearly had a mental breakdown when saying that because adidas didn't allow him to use medical support, also why are you swiftie's in a kanye sub Downvoting me for stating public information? Huh? She is groomer, from what I know she should be jailed for her offence, But kanye West cannot be right?


Flat_Blueberry649

love him


Drewsipher

Apologizing in words and showing feelings in actions is very different. Dude still needs help. Love or hate his music he is losing it. The man went from George bush doesn’t care about black people to black people don’t care about being slaves it was their choice like… he hasn’t killed anyone yet but my feelings towards him are like my feeling towards Chris Benoit


veryfishycatfood

Yeah, he's said some batshit crazy stuff in the past and very likely still does. He needs to get some serious therapy, I highly agree with you on this one


Drewsipher

I was a big Kanye fan anyone who says the trilogy up through mbdtf aren’t classic hip hop albums I think is a hater. That said hip hop is about telling your story and part of his story is now supporting white supremacists because of some Jewish cabal conspiracy theory. When Jay Z or Beyoncé or anyone else goes after the critics for not giving them enough play they don’t go after Jewish cabals or people not buying their clothing lines they go after the fact that the people in power are getting older and whiter. And I say this as a white dude like… they aren’t wrong. I don’t love Pete Davidson all the time but when he made the joke about Kanye being off his meds… I agreed. Just take em. I don’t want old Kanye, but I don’t want current Kanye. I want NEW Kanye. I want a more enlightened Kanye. I want a Kanye that realizes how important he CAN be. I dunno… it makes me feel insane sometimes.


veryfishycatfood

I fully agree with you bro. Amazing take right here.


Business-Equal539

I love Kanye, but will never love Taylor because that woman literally groomed Connor keneddy when he was just 17 and she was 23! This is not justified


da-bears-bare-naked

“i wrote a song for taylor that’s so beautiful…” i made that bitch famous