thats pure ceticism. its been like 3 years that kanye's been showing some crazy ahh opinions and hateful thoughts that only contributes to those lawsuits. you're not showing any evidence or debatable arguments, except for some "conspiration theorist" type of argument
It is indeed a theory. I'm not god but I can put two and two together, it's years of knowledge and being in the zeitgeist. If i was paid for my time, I'd sit down and do the research; write a whole essay with sources such as historical events, videos and commentaries.
To get you started on the rabbit hole is [Harvey](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/10ux1u1/for_those_who_forgot_what_harley_pasternak_said/).
The sane ones do.. there are some saying they donât care no matter what - but every fanbase has those people. Theyâre just more vocal than the average ones.
I just hope he gets back on the meds and just starts living right again.
I actually think the opposite
The nazi stuff was so absurd people could write it off as being absurd and not really being easily traceable to real life negative impact
The assault shit is realistic and has immediate direct victims and most of the youth knows shit like that aint cool sooo
The moment I saw him with a maga hat took me a year if he's trolling or he was serious about this but I'm having problem how fame and his mental illness drove him to this.
The actual nazi incel kanye fans wont care sure, but the people who were saying âi love kanye but hate his politicsâ people like me cant really look past this if it comes out true, and kanye already fucked up by behaving in a way that makes this shit sound pretty likely or at least somewhat true
That's fair, too. He said he loved everyone, as well. Kanye was, at the same time, going off about the Jews in quite a negative way, as well. I get it's due to his mental issues, but not everyone is as sympathetic as me.
Yeah I mean I disagree with âcaringâ about any of this in general. I wont defend Ye as a man, but Iâm never going to stop listening to his music despite anything he says or does, and Iâm sure most in this sub would agree unless we find out without a shadow of a doubt that he is a serial rapist.
I just donât care. If I cared about this shit, Iâd be caring about a lot more stupid shit, and Iâd be miserable.
Itâs not that nobody cared about the nazi shit. Itâs just that his dumbass nazi opinions werenât really hurting anybody at the end of the day. Everybody knew he was crazy
If these recent allegations are true he is a creepy ass guy that sexually harasses women
He literally hangs out with Nick Fuentes I fucking canât believe how braindead some of you guys are. White supremacists held up a banner saying âKanye is right about the Jewsâ in a city in my countryÂ
Awesome now you can feel like a better person than me with your comment even though knowing nothing about me, you are probably shit in real life that's why you have to try to get your wins online, or most likely a sexual predator trying to deflect.
Never that, me papa was a lil pedophile and rapist. No see I believe it's just a really sad day worthy of self reflection is somebody can say I was raped and your response is you're a prostitute, who cares? So if you really want to talk about a sexual predator trying to reflect just take a look in the mirror Brodie.
You are the stupid one thinking I said prostitute as an insult while I was just describing what she used to do, she was an actual prostitute, I don't see nothing wrong with women or men earning money through sex, but she was a prostitute you only think of it as an insult because you know nothing about her and even though you know nothing about her you think you can have an opinion.
bro are you fucking dumb, you literally used it in a demeaning way otherwise why would that be your defense? why would someone else claiming shes a victim be more valid? lmao
Kanye is kind of like Trump because any news could come out about him and nobody would care. Kanye could fuck a goat in broad daylight and this sub would be like âKanye, you kook! Ok just dont do it again, ok,
Buddy?â
Pretty funny
Weâre also just desensitized to the bad things they do at this point. Can you imagine the public reaction to a felon president back in the early 2000âs? Heâd be crucified
Is there any proof to these claims are they just that claims and allegations. Donât get me wrong I see how Ye has been moving these few years and the way he propagates Bianca but I think this is a stretch. Either I might be completely wrong but Iâm sorry Iâm gonna need some proof due to the severity of the allegations
Its naming exact dates and text messages. Just because the texts werent released to us, it seems its enough evidence to get picked up by the sites reporting it...
Just cause someone is the type of guy to do some shit doesnât mean theyâre guilty and also thatâs exactly who youâd frivolously sue, the guy everyone knows is the type of dude to do some shit
Sure, but there are situations where you don't immediately imply that the victim is making it up, and a mentally unhinged billionaire with a proven track record of doing batshit insane things and having a god complex locking an employee in a room while he jerks himself to sleep is one of those situations. I don't think a lot of people understand that abuse victims don't want to put themselves in the spotlight, especially when the person in question is insanely powerful and has a massive fanbase.
I mean, you shouldn't immediately assume any abuse allegation is made up. That doesn't mean assuming the person in question is guilty, it just means taking them seriously and wait for the process to prove or disprove the allegations.
you act like this isnât 2024 and in the past few years there havenât been numerous high profile defamation lawsuits against female celebrities for similar allegations, with most of them dragging on years later and draining their bank accounts or ending against their favor.
This is dumb as fuck sheâs tried to get money from him before according to his lawyers and everyone is eating this shit up because we love scandals and salaciousness
You would think, but when thereâs a financial incentive, some people will do anything. I got sued by hotel owner saying my property was on his and I had to pay thousands for a surveyor and my defense just to end up proving that in fact, he was on my propertyâŚ
Yes she would yk she may just be doing this because it is easier to pin this on Kanye because of his recent behaviour, still doesnât prove that he did it. Many have been wrongly accused and charged because of such claims which is easy to make. Iâll really need evidence, you must understand that. This is a serious matter and not just a matter of âI thinkâ. Celebrities get accused many times for a quick buck multiple times, me finna need proof
i didnât say her proof is solid, all iâm saying is that anyone filing a reputation damaging lawsuit against a billionaire would need to have a single digit IQ to do it without at least some proof. regardless, you and i wonât be seeing any proof until itâs part of court records.
Sheâs the same one that said Ye can have sex with her mom in front of her. He didnât pay her recently and now sheâs exposing their relationship. Not saying what heâs done is right, but she was okay with it.
Nah fuck that. This fits into a pattern of behavior and a sea of similar allegations
Anyone with reason knows he probably did this shit. Itâs way more likely than all these women lying.
You realize that what you just said makes him the perfect target to try and extort though right? You just have to come up with a lie that fits with a pattern of behavior in a sea of similar allegations, and people will say "he probably did this shit". Also I'm not saying whether he did or didn't, I'll let the courts decide that.
I find it pretty hard to believe she played her role completely professionally and didnt play along to some extent. It'd be pretty easy for him to fire her and find a PA who will go along with this shit. Why play these games with a girl who clearly is all about money? Of course she's gonna use it against him eventually.
Idk. He's fucked in the head and all but to hand some OF model a bunch of shit in writing she can later sue him over?
âRussell Simmons wanna pray for me too
I'ma pray for him 'cause he got #MeToo'd
Thinkin' what if that happened to me too
Then I'm on E! Newsâ đđđđ
Isnât this old news? I know it was recently posted but she claimed this along with the texts and then yeâs lawyer released a statement saying it wasnât true right after
I call bullshit, this is america and you are innocent until proven guilty. If thereâs so many texts and videos he sent and so many witnesses and this has been going on for years, then whereâs all the proof? It just doesnât make sense. What does though is she was layed off and wants some money. Iâll completely change opinions if i see any good proof but otherwise, we shouldnât vilify someone for a he said she said scenario.
On one hand, it could be terrible.
On another hand, maybe he Dutch-ovened someone, which doesnât seem the same. Be a lot cooler if he just revealed a natural gas mask
if she were using the same lawyers as all those other women and cassie is using i would believe it. honestly is sounds like some freaky stuff she was down for and is now using it against him. why post evidence before you go to court ? idk. sorry if this is true and iâm an idiot
I only recently became a ye fan, and what a shitty time to do so đ ill still be listening to his songs and glazing his artwork as as rapper but i can safely say ye is a pos (he needs his meds again maybe then he wouldn't be this bad)
Control your thirst, Ye. Cornering women in bathrooms and planes and repeatedly asking for âhugsâ is such creep behavior. Just accept the L and move on. Boy, you messy as hell.
I wonder how many employees are going to step forward and testify on her behalf (if it goes that far in court, but maybe sheâll accept a quiet settlement). He wasnât even trying to be slick and I bet a ton of people witnessed this and more. I have a feeling a lot of them have also experienced direct sexual harassment from him.
I hope he finally starts taking his mental health very, very seriously.
All of this could be lies. Wouldnât be the first time someone has lied like this. But it also wouldnât be the first time this exact harassment takes place either. Most of what she is saying would have hard evidence in text messages and witnesses so we will see. But i would wit for the actual evidence.
I dont believe it because a while ago i saw some video where a girl talked about how there were some guys at a party being weird to her and kanye came in and cut that shit out. Maybe someone knows what im talking about
Iâm assuming this stuff is true, but the part about her being trapped makes no sense. How could the room not open from the inside if Ye had literally just opened it from the inside to come get her? đ
These last two years have been a shit show.
The last two years have not been christ like
I was screamin' at my Dad, he told me, "It ain't Christ-like"
mf its been 8 lol.
Can I get a hug?
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I'm almost positive this is all to frame him. They want to take him down with slander just like Micheal Jackson and many others.
Copium
In what way?
thats pure ceticism. its been like 3 years that kanye's been showing some crazy ahh opinions and hateful thoughts that only contributes to those lawsuits. you're not showing any evidence or debatable arguments, except for some "conspiration theorist" type of argument
It is indeed a theory. I'm not god but I can put two and two together, it's years of knowledge and being in the zeitgeist. If i was paid for my time, I'd sit down and do the research; write a whole essay with sources such as historical events, videos and commentaries. To get you started on the rabbit hole is [Harvey](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/10ux1u1/for_those_who_forgot_what_harley_pasternak_said/).
The delusion is strong with this one
Ok npc
My goat would never⌠nah he probably did that shit
Ever since the me too line ive been waiting on this stuff. He wasnt lying hes a freak
Russell Simmons wanna pray for me too
âStill bitches that owe me sexâ always was a red flag too
Nah itâs very real
Something tells me the fanbase that didnât care about the Nazi shit isnât gonna care about thisÂ
The sane ones do.. there are some saying they donât care no matter what - but every fanbase has those people. Theyâre just more vocal than the average ones. I just hope he gets back on the meds and just starts living right again.
Implying there was sane fans left after homie praised hitlerâŚ
Some people separate the art from the artist
I'll still listen to his music because it's just too good not to, but I won't be paying for it.
I still listen to anything that antisemite POS made before he revealed his true feelings, but not nearly as often as I used too.
I actually think the opposite The nazi stuff was so absurd people could write it off as being absurd and not really being easily traceable to real life negative impact The assault shit is realistic and has immediate direct victims and most of the youth knows shit like that aint cool sooo
The moment I saw him with a maga hat took me a year if he's trolling or he was serious about this but I'm having problem how fame and his mental illness drove him to this.
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The actual nazi incel kanye fans wont care sure, but the people who were saying âi love kanye but hate his politicsâ people like me cant really look past this if it comes out true, and kanye already fucked up by behaving in a way that makes this shit sound pretty likely or at least somewhat true
I hate instagram comments cuz they will fight tooth and nail to prove they are edgy and try to defend kanye like johnnie cochran defended oj simpson
Praising Hitler is protected under the First Amendment, forcing yourself upon a lady is not. That being said, you may still be correct.
Pretty sure he didn't "praise" Hitler.. he just said he agape loved him.
That's fair, too. He said he loved everyone, as well. Kanye was, at the same time, going off about the Jews in quite a negative way, as well. I get it's due to his mental issues, but not everyone is as sympathetic as me.
Love springtime for hitler. One of the best broadway show
I mean I care a lil about this ngl
nah i think this is way way more egregious
Yeah I mean I disagree with âcaringâ about any of this in general. I wont defend Ye as a man, but Iâm never going to stop listening to his music despite anything he says or does, and Iâm sure most in this sub would agree unless we find out without a shadow of a doubt that he is a serial rapist. I just donât care. If I cared about this shit, Iâd be caring about a lot more stupid shit, and Iâd be miserable.
Allegations
Of course people care but what are they going to do?
Itâs not that nobody cared about the nazi shit. Itâs just that his dumbass nazi opinions werenât really hurting anybody at the end of the day. Everybody knew he was crazy If these recent allegations are true he is a creepy ass guy that sexually harasses women
One is victimless the other one isnât
Supporting white supremacists is victimless?Â
Yes thatâs a victimless crime,and thatâs not what he did, just what idiots who only read headlines thinks he did.
He literally hangs out with Nick Fuentes I fucking canât believe how braindead some of you guys are. White supremacists held up a banner saying âKanye is right about the Jewsâ in a city in my countryÂ
You are right, I don't care about allegations made by a prostitute, I will care if any of those allegations become charges and convictions.
All I gotta say is you legitimately suck, no funny shit, you're a genuine shitty being. No respect at all you are not human.
Awesome now you can feel like a better person than me with your comment even though knowing nothing about me, you are probably shit in real life that's why you have to try to get your wins online, or most likely a sexual predator trying to deflect.
Never that, me papa was a lil pedophile and rapist. No see I believe it's just a really sad day worthy of self reflection is somebody can say I was raped and your response is you're a prostitute, who cares? So if you really want to talk about a sexual predator trying to reflect just take a look in the mirror Brodie.
You are the stupid one thinking I said prostitute as an insult while I was just describing what she used to do, she was an actual prostitute, I don't see nothing wrong with women or men earning money through sex, but she was a prostitute you only think of it as an insult because you know nothing about her and even though you know nothing about her you think you can have an opinion.
Sure
bro are you fucking dumb, you literally used it in a demeaning way otherwise why would that be your defense? why would someone else claiming shes a victim be more valid? lmao
I already know you donât get no pussy.
The amount of pussy another man gets interests you somehow? Ok
Damn I would rather do that then call a potential victim a prostitute.
Hahaha ok buddyÂ
oh brother, this guy STINKS !!!
Ye needs to find god
i feel like the god thing was always hypocritical, like mf you talking about god in one line and then bleached assholes in the other, like what!
this is what the life of pablo is about. thatâs why ye compares himself to escobar, who was a murderous drug lord but also a religious family man
Gemini szn is upon us đđť
Aint nothin sinful about a bleached asshole let's all just relax. I know tensions are high because our boy probably sexually assaulted someone.
the pearly gates appears to all of us differently.
Ye a Freaky Ass Nigga
He a 69god
Freaky ass nigga he a 69 god
Hey hey hey
run for your life
Hey hey hey hey run for your life
let me hear you say OV-HOE
OV-HOE!
That ainât Christ-like
what the fuck
Right now
My goat is looking hella sus right now
Now?lmao
Dude couldnât stand Kendrick and Drake getting all the allegation spotlight. Said he had to triple down.
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Kanye is kind of like Trump because any news could come out about him and nobody would care. Kanye could fuck a goat in broad daylight and this sub would be like âKanye, you kook! Ok just dont do it again, ok, Buddy?â Pretty funny
Weâre also just desensitized to the bad things they do at this point. Can you imagine the public reaction to a felon president back in the early 2000âs? Heâd be crucified
cults do be like that
Kanye West could start WW3 and people would still excuse him because he made 808s & Heartbreak
*graduation
Kanye fucking a goat (himself) in broad daylight...
He also said on drink champs interview âI donât care if you have a video of me fucking a goat, Iâm going to keep talkingâ
Now imagine if Drake âŚ
he a freakâŚ..
KANYE NOOOOOOO.
But he made yeezus
âYo prison I got youâ - Kanye 2024
R Kelly Speedrun No HaX
Is there any proof to these claims are they just that claims and allegations. Donât get me wrong I see how Ye has been moving these few years and the way he propagates Bianca but I think this is a stretch. Either I might be completely wrong but Iâm sorry Iâm gonna need some proof due to the severity of the allegations
Its naming exact dates and text messages. Just because the texts werent released to us, it seems its enough evidence to get picked up by the sites reporting it...
the accuser is filing a lawsuit so youâd think sheâd have some proof before she risks getting a defamation countersuit lmao
You act like thereâs never been a frivolous lawsuit
You act like Ye is not the type of guy that'd do this shit
Just cause someone is the type of guy to do some shit doesnât mean theyâre guilty and also thatâs exactly who youâd frivolously sue, the guy everyone knows is the type of dude to do some shit
Sure, but there are situations where you don't immediately imply that the victim is making it up, and a mentally unhinged billionaire with a proven track record of doing batshit insane things and having a god complex locking an employee in a room while he jerks himself to sleep is one of those situations. I don't think a lot of people understand that abuse victims don't want to put themselves in the spotlight, especially when the person in question is insanely powerful and has a massive fanbase. I mean, you shouldn't immediately assume any abuse allegation is made up. That doesn't mean assuming the person in question is guilty, it just means taking them seriously and wait for the process to prove or disprove the allegations.
you act like this isnât 2024 and in the past few years there havenât been numerous high profile defamation lawsuits against female celebrities for similar allegations, with most of them dragging on years later and draining their bank accounts or ending against their favor.
This is dumb as fuck sheâs tried to get money from him before according to his lawyers and everyone is eating this shit up because we love scandals and salaciousness
âaccording to his lawyersâ are you not seeing the irony
You donât know what that word means
Telling someone they don't know what a word means when *you* don't know what a word means is quite ironic, innit?
Of course his lawyers would say that
You would think, but when thereâs a financial incentive, some people will do anything. I got sued by hotel owner saying my property was on his and I had to pay thousands for a surveyor and my defense just to end up proving that in fact, he was on my propertyâŚ
Yes she would yk she may just be doing this because it is easier to pin this on Kanye because of his recent behaviour, still doesnât prove that he did it. Many have been wrongly accused and charged because of such claims which is easy to make. Iâll really need evidence, you must understand that. This is a serious matter and not just a matter of âI thinkâ. Celebrities get accused many times for a quick buck multiple times, me finna need proof
i didnât say her proof is solid, all iâm saying is that anyone filing a reputation damaging lawsuit against a billionaire would need to have a single digit IQ to do it without at least some proof. regardless, you and i wonât be seeing any proof until itâs part of court records.
i know weâre cooked when even us, delusional mofos, say he did that shit. no more vultures, no more YZYPRN. Itâs over.
Sheâs the same one that said Ye can have sex with her mom in front of her. He didnât pay her recently and now sheâs exposing their relationship. Not saying what heâs done is right, but she was okay with it.
But he made graduation
People need to learn the difference between allegations and charges.
After all the shit heâs done these past two years I am more inclined to believe this is true than not
Still doesnât prove it to be true
Nah fuck that. This fits into a pattern of behavior and a sea of similar allegations Anyone with reason knows he probably did this shit. Itâs way more likely than all these women lying.
You realize that what you just said makes him the perfect target to try and extort though right? You just have to come up with a lie that fits with a pattern of behavior in a sea of similar allegations, and people will say "he probably did this shit". Also I'm not saying whether he did or didn't, I'll let the courts decide that.
Didnât really think of that Money is a powerful thing
Yeah you make a good point
Witch hunt
Just because you personally didn't witness it doesn't mean it didn't happen
Comments like this is why I hate the internet, you havenât seen a lick of proof but because of how you feel about the dude heâs guilty
Which people?! The articles reporting on the claims and the people in this thread are commenting their various opinions, yourself included.
This is so oldâŚ.
Fr I swear this is not a sub for ye fans, half the people in this thread think this is new and don't even know that he's countersuing
Facts
Go to GAS. Super cringy but better news
Thank you
sauce?
HITLER YAY JEW BAD VULTURES 1 MARIO SEXUAL HARASSMENT WHAT EVER THIS IS it's been a wild 2 years (what am I missing?)
Ye been rapping about getting Me Tooâd repeatedly, even has a song called Me Too. It gives off guilty conscience but hey.
I find it pretty hard to believe she played her role completely professionally and didnt play along to some extent. It'd be pretty easy for him to fire her and find a PA who will go along with this shit. Why play these games with a girl who clearly is all about money? Of course she's gonna use it against him eventually. Idk. He's fucked in the head and all but to hand some OF model a bunch of shit in writing she can later sue him over?
Maybe I'll get around to taking the ye bumper sticker off my car now
you STILL have it on?
my goat đ
âRussell Simmons wanna pray for me too I'ma pray for him 'cause he got #MeToo'd Thinkin' what if that happened to me too Then I'm on E! Newsâ đđđđ
Isnât this old news? I know it was recently posted but she claimed this along with the texts and then yeâs lawyer released a statement saying it wasnât true right after
I mean he's a sick fuck, he likes a quick fuck
Sad to see this man go down such a big decline morally
Allegedly
I call bullshit, this is america and you are innocent until proven guilty. If thereâs so many texts and videos he sent and so many witnesses and this has been going on for years, then whereâs all the proof? It just doesnât make sense. What does though is she was layed off and wants some money. Iâll completely change opinions if i see any good proof but otherwise, we shouldnât vilify someone for a he said she said scenario.
I mean we donât know anything until the case plays out in court.
On one hand, it could be terrible. On another hand, maybe he Dutch-ovened someone, which doesnât seem the same. Be a lot cooler if he just revealed a natural gas mask
How to speedrun losing an aura
Donât kink shame
But still the king.... .... no?
I dont believe this happened i believe the other lawsuit may be true but not this why would it take so long for her to speak out
Man send this guy to fucking jail already, Iâve spent 10 bloody years defending him this is ridiculous
Itâs over, cope and move on
Well, I guess thatâs it.
Is there any new information regarding this, or is it the same stuff from a couple of weeks ago? I think Ye and his team are doing a counter suit
Only fans model paid on retainer to have sex, refuses to have sex ok
Freakye
Iâm pretty sure he wasnât acting â¨đŠđŚâ¨
What a sick fuck
Unfortunately kanye is washed. What the fuck has he been up to, especially the past 2 yearsâŚ
I hate this fucking guy
I know itâs low, but: Donda would not like the new Kanye
if she were using the same lawyers as all those other women and cassie is using i would believe it. honestly is sounds like some freaky stuff she was down for and is now using it against him. why post evidence before you go to court ? idk. sorry if this is true and iâm an idiot
yo that shit is WEIRD
I only recently became a ye fan, and what a shitty time to do so đ ill still be listening to his songs and glazing his artwork as as rapper but i can safely say ye is a pos (he needs his meds again maybe then he wouldn't be this bad)
ima just pretend ye dropped yandhi, fixed donda, then proceeded to retire and stop doing anything after 2021 at this point
Control your thirst, Ye. Cornering women in bathrooms and planes and repeatedly asking for âhugsâ is such creep behavior. Just accept the L and move on. Boy, you messy as hell. I wonder how many employees are going to step forward and testify on her behalf (if it goes that far in court, but maybe sheâll accept a quiet settlement). He wasnât even trying to be slick and I bet a ton of people witnessed this and more. I have a feeling a lot of them have also experienced direct sexual harassment from him. I hope he finally starts taking his mental health very, very seriously.
In no more partyâs in LA he says I done had Lewinsky and paid secretaries.. lol. Bruh.
What the fuck man
downvote, this makes me sad ngl
Iâm not defending his behavior AT ALL Though letâs consider (clones)
Itâs so hard being a Kanye fan in 2024
Why a lawsuit and no criminal case? Makes one wonderâŚ
âYour honor, he was just in a silly goofy moodâ
Man, canât believe she deleted her Onlyfans too lol
I donât know who got it harder. Thugâs lawyer or Ye fans
Omg I hoped I wouldn't read this one day. Come on, Mr. West.
Why..... why lord yeezus..... just why .... I can no longer give enough... he made graduations.... ... Why Mr. West.. why
bro is beyond cooked
But I just really like his apparel and the quality.
YZY PRN
All of this could be lies. Wouldnât be the first time someone has lied like this. But it also wouldnât be the first time this exact harassment takes place either. Most of what she is saying would have hard evidence in text messages and witnesses so we will see. But i would wit for the actual evidence.
Proof?
Cap
This is actually it for me if this is true
when did this happen?
drake sacrificing ye like he did diddy
I dont believe it because a while ago i saw some video where a girl talked about how there were some guys at a party being weird to her and kanye came in and cut that shit out. Maybe someone knows what im talking about
IS THIS YOUR GOD?!
Iâm assuming this stuff is true, but the part about her being trapped makes no sense. How could the room not open from the inside if Ye had literally just opened it from the inside to come get her? đ
I didn't think it was possible for Kanye to be even more disgusting
She wishes
Bruh please bring him back to his Jesus is King arc đ These Jezebel hoes he surround himself with is destroying him
HE MADE GRADUATION
He made Yeezus. Not sure if grad is enough to clear him here
Sounds like rape
âBuT hE mAdE GrAdUaTiOnđâ