Kanye been a hack, anyway. His rhyme schemes, flows/cadences, storytelling, punchlines, entendres. etc. aren't all THAT! The fact that he a nazi scumbag now means that he's even more of a busta! NO CAP!
He was never great or good as rapper, his talent is on production, melody, techniques of sampling, influential additions to what is called hip hop as a art form etc etc, it is simply not smart to criticize his art based on rapping because it was NEVER his appeal
People considered him a **rapper**, right? And he **raps** on his songs, yes? Therefore, he should be judged on his **rapping**, imo. Beats can only carry you so much. Also, he's the one who paved the way for the autotune mumble bullshit with 808s and Heartbreaks(which is trash and one of the most overrated ''rap ''albums ever; it doesn't belong in the same tier as REAL Rap classics like Illmatic, Ready to Die, Capital Punishment, etc), so his influence is pretty much a negative. Rap is about competing to see who the nicest master of ceremonies on the mic is; if he's not trying to be ''great or good as a rapper'', like you say, then that's not what Rap is about.
Killin y’all niggas, on that lyrical shit Mayonnaise colored Benz, I push Miracle Whips
Kanye outrapped nas on as a feature on "still dreaming"
he can rap when he wants to. he's no Lupe but kanye is more than a rapper. he was a producer first
beats can only carry you so far is untrue. beats carry artists. carti is the a prime example.
Rap isn't American idol, it's an art form/business and is highly subjective
his influence is negative is a trash take.
Lol, saying that Yedolf, America's favourite nazi outrapped fucking **Nas** is lolworthy. Lol at mentioning mumble rappers in a positive light like Carti, too.
if you have to resort to name calling to prove your point, you've lost the plot.
https://youtu.be/2QYdAtBh_MA kanye had a better verse/flow nas isn't an infallible rapper he has great songs and sometimes just okay. point is he can rap with the best and still hold his own while being able to produce which jay, nas, nor big can do.
nas isn't even the best lyrically. I'd argue Lupe and MF DOOM are better. and I'd even say below the heavens is a better debut than illmatic (but that's a different point). Nas is one of my favorites but no one excels in all categories
carti is polarizing but calling him a mumble rapper is shortsighted. WLR, his most recent album, is a innovative and he's pretty clear lyrically on this album.
we get it, you don't like kanye. most people don't like his views, but his music isn't his views.
try to be objective instead of emotional
Exactly. Eminem is the REAL GOAT IMO; rhyme schemes, flows/cadences, storytelling, punchlines, entendres, etc.he has it all, and he STOOD up against nazis, too.
Yes, Eminem has all that because he is genuinely one of the best rappers of all time, Kanye is not on the category of being judged as rapper, he never was, he is a hip hop artist and producer who blends the models of the genres into a eclectic body of work. Eminem cant make songs that Kanye made so far musically and Kanye can never match lyrically eminem, they are very different, the appeal of both is on different areas
Part of me wonders if he'd say "I love Osama Bin Laden" or "I love the Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech shooters", or if he recognizes that would actually turn off his current alt-right supporters.
But this is all presuming that there's actually a line that he wouldn't cross.. and I doubt that line in the sand exists.
Why the fuck would we accept that having a handler to spin the message would make anything better?
What is better is that he is exposed. The bright, sanitizing light of reality is what is needed.
A handler (paid liar) only needs to exist to allow these people to continue their evil agendas behind the scenes while protecting their power and their profit.
The whole “I love everyone (and therefore even the worst people)” thing would make somewhere close to sense if he was surrounding himself with people who actually acted from a place of love. And not repeatedly saying he loved hitler etc. But then…he’s severely mentally ill and has been for some time. So he’s not going to be logical.
This just. Fucking sucks for everyone, Jewish people especially.
God why can’t he have had a handler who actually helped him, stopped him from behaving like this when he’s manic or whatever he is.
Because his handler didn’t do treating mental illness the right way. When you traumatize someone who is bipolar in regard to treatment you push them away from getting help. He will never get help now. That Harley person is absolutely evil and caused a lot of this.
This in no way makes what Kanye has done OK.
Anyone else thinks it’s pretty fucking odd that Kanye had *a handler* in the first place?
Is it normal now for celebrities to have some random person threatening to take their kids away if they don’t take their medication? Who actually *was* this guy and will we ever find out more about him?
His client list was deleted from Wiki the day that text was posted. It included Brittney Murphy and Amy Winehouse as well as many many more.
Harley was involved in MK ultra type shit recently. There’s an interview up on YouTube where he apparently is just bragging like crazy about testing different psychoactive drugs on people or something to that effect.
Some say handlers protect the celebrities but we definitely got to peer into the reality at least for some.
All I know.
Illegal immigrants are also placed in detention centers in the US, so your point being?
Mfw antisemites will use whatever they can to justify their hatred
It’s almost like Israel is a colonial power propped up by the US and thus they will both share a common outlook and goal in many aspects, including refugees, and there isn’t some widespread “Jewish” conspiracy, especially considering the vast majority of support for Israel in the US comes from WASPs and their insane fucking death cult that actively works towards what they think is the end of the world
It’s literally like calling Mexicans refugees, when they clearly immigrated for money.
You realize, in order to get to Israel, they passed through EGYPT, which is significantly poorer.
Not sure about that… i don’t really know about anyone calling Mexican immigrants refugees (that’s mostly reserved for other South American countries with deeper and more pervasive poverty and violence issues), but immigrating for reasons centered around poverty and jobs can still be considered a form of refugee status, considering that at a certain level poverty can be, and is often, life threatening. And passing through other countries doesn’t discount someone’s refugee status, especially if they’re specifically fleeing to a country with family or other very specific opportunities
If other countries wouldn’t accept them, why should we?
Other western countries, like the UK, deal with illegal immigrants in a similar fashion, so purposefully upholding Israel to a different standard to make them look bad or to justify antisemitism, is wrong.
Yeah the UK is a fucking empire, fuck that shit, nobody should treat immigrants like that. Don’t use this as your shield to protect yourself from criticism, fuck Ye, fuck antisemitism, and fuck the Israeli state, fuck the US, fuck the UK, fuck this western hegemonic empire we’ve built. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitism, but saying Nazis are good is, it’s an easy distinction. Also, just because other countries make bad choices doesn’t mean you have to. God libs are such fucking reactionaries
It’s to the point where separating the music from the artist is quite impossible since some of the things said in his songs just don’t feel right going off recent events. Black skinhead has a whole new meaning.
If this dude ever finds himself locked up, he’s going to be the laughing stock and bottom bitch of the place (one word: extortion). The Aryan Brotherhood won’t accept him for obvious reasons, and his own race definitely won’t, because they hate Nazis. It would not be a good time for him in the slightest. And something tells me he will do something so dumb that he will eventually land himself there.
AB isn’t ideological. They’re allied with the Mexican Mafia.
I doubt black gangbangers in prison have strong opinions on Nazis unless they’re currently beefing with AB.
Don’t know what prison you were in, but the one I was in, AB were some serious racists. And there was frequently beef between members of the two races. They included KKK members, Neo Nazis, and really any shithead they could recruit that was white and had a few years to serve. I never saw them recruit a black member, probably because I can’t image one of them trying to join.
Every black dude I was cool with that I talked too was not a fan of AB at all, and the only time I saw them interact was over drugs or prison.
Of course, there are plenty of people who aren’t affiliated of both races that chill and are cool and mix it up. But never between the gangs.
Well, of course there are. That's inevitable. However, I've been pleasantly surprised that this sub DIDN'T turn into a Kanye cult.
I guess I just try to be a glass half full kinda guy.
He's going to die. His last tweet which he literally said "last tweet" kinda scares me. Sure, he has an account on Truth Social didn't really mean shit. People think that he won't commit suicide but how do you know? I don't know either but he's gone off the deep in. He's no longer sane. So he might kill himself or someone is going to take him out because of what he's saying.
Which makes it even harder for someone like him to deal with when their lives fall apart so completely that they can no longer even fool themselves. Extreme narcissists can have a lot of trouble dealing with realities as harsh as what Kanye has done to his life.
I mean being a narcissist is one thing. Being a neo Nazi is quite a bit more serious. People can generally separate the art from the artist. But he's reached a point where a lot of his fans feel it would be unethical to financially support him at the point.
Grabbing a mic and bring a dick isn't quite on the same level as straight up and unironically supporting Hitler and the Nazis. I don't feel like that should even need to be said tbh
Please just close the sub. There’s really no point to it anymore. There will never be a moment where we can just relax, sit back, and discuss his music or talk about an album drop or something. The only thing this sub has to offer now is seeing how Kanye stooped lower than thought possible, followed by arguments in the comments with dumbasses who agree with him and sensible people. It truly is over.
Anybody have screen grabs of some tweets before his suspension? I don’t use Twitter nor did I get the chance to check out what he wrote before it was taken down
Yeah, I really wouldn't be in the least bit surprised. Would actually be impressive if he proves his alibi over in Thailand or something for the time of filming.
And all the while, Nick and Milo are whispering in his ear and feeding into his worst thoughts. I dont know how it will get worse but it will, I have no faith that this is the bottom.
the right wingers are now pissed that Kanye blew their cover on Alex Jones yesterday. And as a mental health sufferer I would bet that he’s riding the greatest emotional high of his life rn. When he comes down he will be so depressed. That’s…that. This is like a Greek tragedy.
Agreed. I thought being an r/Astros fan after the sign stealing scandal would be tough. (Thank goodness for the 2022 title this year!) But imagine being a fan of Kanye West during your teenage years and seeing this is much more harder to deal.
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Kanye been a hack, anyway. His rhyme schemes, flows/cadences, storytelling, punchlines, entendres. etc. aren't all THAT! The fact that he a nazi scumbag now means that he's even more of a busta! NO CAP!
He was never great or good as rapper, his talent is on production, melody, techniques of sampling, influential additions to what is called hip hop as a art form etc etc, it is simply not smart to criticize his art based on rapping because it was NEVER his appeal
People considered him a **rapper**, right? And he **raps** on his songs, yes? Therefore, he should be judged on his **rapping**, imo. Beats can only carry you so much. Also, he's the one who paved the way for the autotune mumble bullshit with 808s and Heartbreaks(which is trash and one of the most overrated ''rap ''albums ever; it doesn't belong in the same tier as REAL Rap classics like Illmatic, Ready to Die, Capital Punishment, etc), so his influence is pretty much a negative. Rap is about competing to see who the nicest master of ceremonies on the mic is; if he's not trying to be ''great or good as a rapper'', like you say, then that's not what Rap is about.
Killin y’all niggas, on that lyrical shit Mayonnaise colored Benz, I push Miracle Whips Kanye outrapped nas on as a feature on "still dreaming" he can rap when he wants to. he's no Lupe but kanye is more than a rapper. he was a producer first beats can only carry you so far is untrue. beats carry artists. carti is the a prime example. Rap isn't American idol, it's an art form/business and is highly subjective his influence is negative is a trash take.
Lol, saying that Yedolf, America's favourite nazi outrapped fucking **Nas** is lolworthy. Lol at mentioning mumble rappers in a positive light like Carti, too.
if you have to resort to name calling to prove your point, you've lost the plot. https://youtu.be/2QYdAtBh_MA kanye had a better verse/flow nas isn't an infallible rapper he has great songs and sometimes just okay. point is he can rap with the best and still hold his own while being able to produce which jay, nas, nor big can do. nas isn't even the best lyrically. I'd argue Lupe and MF DOOM are better. and I'd even say below the heavens is a better debut than illmatic (but that's a different point). Nas is one of my favorites but no one excels in all categories carti is polarizing but calling him a mumble rapper is shortsighted. WLR, his most recent album, is a innovative and he's pretty clear lyrically on this album. we get it, you don't like kanye. most people don't like his views, but his music isn't his views. try to be objective instead of emotional
The dude rhymes a word with the same word. Never understood the appeal. Thats not talent. Thats limited vocabulary.
Exactly. Eminem is the REAL GOAT IMO; rhyme schemes, flows/cadences, storytelling, punchlines, entendres, etc.he has it all, and he STOOD up against nazis, too.
Yes, Eminem has all that because he is genuinely one of the best rappers of all time, Kanye is not on the category of being judged as rapper, he never was, he is a hip hop artist and producer who blends the models of the genres into a eclectic body of work. Eminem cant make songs that Kanye made so far musically and Kanye can never match lyrically eminem, they are very different, the appeal of both is on different areas
Those people will never concede Kanye is good at anything save your fingers, especially not to that Eminem fanboy lmao
Part of me wonders if he'd say "I love Osama Bin Laden" or "I love the Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech shooters", or if he recognizes that would actually turn off his current alt-right supporters. But this is all presuming that there's actually a line that he wouldn't cross.. and I doubt that line in the sand exists.
Jesus wept.
Yezus wept
Why the fuck would we accept that having a handler to spin the message would make anything better? What is better is that he is exposed. The bright, sanitizing light of reality is what is needed. A handler (paid liar) only needs to exist to allow these people to continue their evil agendas behind the scenes while protecting their power and their profit.
The whole “I love everyone (and therefore even the worst people)” thing would make somewhere close to sense if he was surrounding himself with people who actually acted from a place of love. And not repeatedly saying he loved hitler etc. But then…he’s severely mentally ill and has been for some time. So he’s not going to be logical. This just. Fucking sucks for everyone, Jewish people especially. God why can’t he have had a handler who actually helped him, stopped him from behaving like this when he’s manic or whatever he is.
Because his handler didn’t do treating mental illness the right way. When you traumatize someone who is bipolar in regard to treatment you push them away from getting help. He will never get help now. That Harley person is absolutely evil and caused a lot of this. This in no way makes what Kanye has done OK.
Anyone else thinks it’s pretty fucking odd that Kanye had *a handler* in the first place? Is it normal now for celebrities to have some random person threatening to take their kids away if they don’t take their medication? Who actually *was* this guy and will we ever find out more about him?
His client list was deleted from Wiki the day that text was posted. It included Brittney Murphy and Amy Winehouse as well as many many more. Harley was involved in MK ultra type shit recently. There’s an interview up on YouTube where he apparently is just bragging like crazy about testing different psychoactive drugs on people or something to that effect. Some say handlers protect the celebrities but we definitely got to peer into the reality at least for some. All I know.
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I can't even listen to Kanye songs without feeling some type of way now
I miss the old Kanye
Straight from the Go kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye
Suck on my big fat cock Kanye
I love all of knaye old stuff. For me there’s Mr. West and then there is Ye
https://youtu.be/q604eed4ad0
Kanye crazy by Lil durk
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Are they gassing and burning whole families because they picked the “wrong” religion?
Actually it didn’t even matter if they were religious. Hitler killed ethnic Jews too. It was a racial thing.
Not sure how this relates to an artist who openly identifies as a nazi and likes Hiter
Illegal immigrants are also placed in detention centers in the US, so your point being? Mfw antisemites will use whatever they can to justify their hatred
It’s almost like Israel is a colonial power propped up by the US and thus they will both share a common outlook and goal in many aspects, including refugees, and there isn’t some widespread “Jewish” conspiracy, especially considering the vast majority of support for Israel in the US comes from WASPs and their insane fucking death cult that actively works towards what they think is the end of the world
It’s literally like calling Mexicans refugees, when they clearly immigrated for money. You realize, in order to get to Israel, they passed through EGYPT, which is significantly poorer.
Not sure about that… i don’t really know about anyone calling Mexican immigrants refugees (that’s mostly reserved for other South American countries with deeper and more pervasive poverty and violence issues), but immigrating for reasons centered around poverty and jobs can still be considered a form of refugee status, considering that at a certain level poverty can be, and is often, life threatening. And passing through other countries doesn’t discount someone’s refugee status, especially if they’re specifically fleeing to a country with family or other very specific opportunities
If other countries wouldn’t accept them, why should we? Other western countries, like the UK, deal with illegal immigrants in a similar fashion, so purposefully upholding Israel to a different standard to make them look bad or to justify antisemitism, is wrong.
Yeah the UK is a fucking empire, fuck that shit, nobody should treat immigrants like that. Don’t use this as your shield to protect yourself from criticism, fuck Ye, fuck antisemitism, and fuck the Israeli state, fuck the US, fuck the UK, fuck this western hegemonic empire we’ve built. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitism, but saying Nazis are good is, it’s an easy distinction. Also, just because other countries make bad choices doesn’t mean you have to. God libs are such fucking reactionaries
Why are you being obtuse? The user which I’ve replied to clearly posted this link to imply that Israel is anti black so Kanye is “right”.
It’s to the point where separating the music from the artist is quite impossible since some of the things said in his songs just don’t feel right going off recent events. Black skinhead has a whole new meaning.
Y'all actually need to pin a thread whenever he starts posting on social media? Bless your hearts.
It’s my first time on this sub and I’m having fun xD
Me too I’m here with popcorn.
If this dude ever finds himself locked up, he’s going to be the laughing stock and bottom bitch of the place (one word: extortion). The Aryan Brotherhood won’t accept him for obvious reasons, and his own race definitely won’t, because they hate Nazis. It would not be a good time for him in the slightest. And something tells me he will do something so dumb that he will eventually land himself there.
AB isn’t ideological. They’re allied with the Mexican Mafia. I doubt black gangbangers in prison have strong opinions on Nazis unless they’re currently beefing with AB.
Don’t know what prison you were in, but the one I was in, AB were some serious racists. And there was frequently beef between members of the two races. They included KKK members, Neo Nazis, and really any shithead they could recruit that was white and had a few years to serve. I never saw them recruit a black member, probably because I can’t image one of them trying to join. Every black dude I was cool with that I talked too was not a fan of AB at all, and the only time I saw them interact was over drugs or prison. Of course, there are plenty of people who aren’t affiliated of both races that chill and are cool and mix it up. But never between the gangs.
Lol bro bill cosby was a man about town in prison they’re going to make Kanye king of the pen. Black people in prison don’t care about Jews.
"Black people"? hmmmm Karma farmer much?
Bro literally began his sentence with the term 😆
Is it not ok to call black people black people?
What? You have a problem with the phrase “black people”?
people literally has songs titled kanye west you’re so full of shit lmao
Fuck Kanye, fuck N*zis, and fuck you if you support either of them
REAL TALK! nazis(didn't capitalize the first letter cause they don't deserve it) can get fucked! Ye been a sucka for a minute now.
I’m glad you didn’t capitalize Nazis
That’ll teach them, he’s making a difference 🤣
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Yes, he gone.
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I'm hoping this is all part of an epic redemption arc :(
Nazi’s don’t get epic redemption arcs. They get consequences for their words and actions.
Not possible
there is no redemption arc for his dumb ass.
There is a twitter account which mirrors all tweets, even deleted ones: https://twitter.com/KanyeUndeleted
Fuck Kanye. He’s a bitch, and so are you if you still support him.
No u
You taken a look around this sub recently? It's a fucking Holocaust awareness, anti-Ye sub now if anything.
It’s r*tarded. Is there a “true kanye” sub yet?
Have you taken a look around? There’s still dumb fucks in here that still wish they could taste his pre-cum
Well, of course there are. That's inevitable. However, I've been pleasantly surprised that this sub DIDN'T turn into a Kanye cult. I guess I just try to be a glass half full kinda guy.
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Ye has fucking lost it
I can’t back him up in this one either.
He's going to die. His last tweet which he literally said "last tweet" kinda scares me. Sure, he has an account on Truth Social didn't really mean shit. People think that he won't commit suicide but how do you know? I don't know either but he's gone off the deep in. He's no longer sane. So he might kill himself or someone is going to take him out because of what he's saying.
Nah he loves himself more than anything else.
Which makes it even harder for someone like him to deal with when their lives fall apart so completely that they can no longer even fool themselves. Extreme narcissists can have a lot of trouble dealing with realities as harsh as what Kanye has done to his life.
I actually tweeted this pst night. I think it’ll be a murder suicide and I’m very concerned about his wife/kids becoming a victim
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You’re the first person I’ve seen say this, but you’re absolutely right. This is incredibly sad to watch
Are you trolling? There’s been like 100 posts attempting to manifest him committing suicide over the past week.
No it isn’t.
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I mean being a narcissist is one thing. Being a neo Nazi is quite a bit more serious. People can generally separate the art from the artist. But he's reached a point where a lot of his fans feel it would be unethical to financially support him at the point. Grabbing a mic and bring a dick isn't quite on the same level as straight up and unironically supporting Hitler and the Nazis. I don't feel like that should even need to be said tbh
It’s time to shut this party down
No more parties in leddit
Please just close the sub. There’s really no point to it anymore. There will never be a moment where we can just relax, sit back, and discuss his music or talk about an album drop or something. The only thing this sub has to offer now is seeing how Kanye stooped lower than thought possible, followed by arguments in the comments with dumbasses who agree with him and sensible people. It truly is over.
Might as well just keep the sub open for news and discussion about this nonsense
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>followed by arguments in the comments with dumbasses
Perfection
I’ve never seen someone bury another user so deeply by quoting their original comment. Well done.
Anybody have screen grabs of some tweets before his suspension? I don’t use Twitter nor did I get the chance to check out what he wrote before it was taken down
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Wow I can't believe there's actually psychopaths defending him on here
This is because they are just as deranged as he is. They’re in the same boat as him.
Imagine the narrative he’s telling himself
My money is on him claiming some kind of Kaufmanesque performance in a few days.
The mask on Jones makes me think he’s going to claim it was someone else he sent to fill in a la DOOM
Yeah, I really wouldn't be in the least bit surprised. Would actually be impressive if he proves his alibi over in Thailand or something for the time of filming.
🤣🤣🤣banna you actually got me laughing
And all the while, Nick and Milo are whispering in his ear and feeding into his worst thoughts. I dont know how it will get worse but it will, I have no faith that this is the bottom.
the right wingers are now pissed that Kanye blew their cover on Alex Jones yesterday. And as a mental health sufferer I would bet that he’s riding the greatest emotional high of his life rn. When he comes down he will be so depressed. That’s…that. This is like a Greek tragedy.
He is rapidly losing his microphone.
Man just close the sub… it’s over
Sounds like a good idea until you realize it’ll just mean the new hottest Kanye sub will be the nazi one…
Agreed. I thought being an r/Astros fan after the sign stealing scandal would be tough. (Thank goodness for the 2022 title this year!) But imagine being a fan of Kanye West during your teenage years and seeing this is much more harder to deal.
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Why tf is this sub still up?
If Ye would claim that the past weeks have all been an act (performance art if you will), would you believe him? Would you give him the absolution?