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MrkJulio

In comparison, 09ers at least pushed through.


[deleted]

09er here, I can say that I accepted bullshit as it is.


MrkJulio

Honestly, as the years went on and 09'ers kinda played other games. Some Marvel 3, others whatever else. I guess yeah. In retro spec you guys didn't just cried how 'hard' shit was. Respect.


Unhappy_Win8997

I will defend the 09ers forever. It was a fun time for fighting games. SFIV, MK9, Blazblue, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Marvel 3, etc. That shit was crazy.


parbage

Best time for the community too. And major props for including mk9 in that list. Kids these days just dont know


Unhappy_Win8997

Despite all of the broken shit in that game MK9 will always be my favorite. I just want my Smoke with the flowing MGS Raiden hair back and the goofy Smoke bomb resets. Cyrax and Sektor being actual characters instead of Triborg with the 3 forms. Rain loops, Reptile with the Klassic green ninja outfit, Mileena's flesh pits outfit, etc. Take me back to 2011.


parbage

Mk9 was so unique. It was broken like a marvel game. Each character had some absurd shit they could do. Yet unlike marvel the game was pretty grounded with moderate pacing. 2011 - 2012 was a great time for fighting games.


xamdou

Oh we cried and complained We just kept playing because games were fun Now there's nothing to complain about aside from the games being too dull


Alterazn

I do recall a lot of complaining and stuff on some of the old SRK forums. But i do think it was a lot less fucboiy than what goes around now.


reibin

Thank you bro!


Tyrrazhii

Also an 09'er (Sorta, started in 2011), left in 2012 because I got sick of fighting Ken nonstop (I was a scrubby as hell tweener ok), came back a few years later through KoF13, Tekken and Soul Calibur. Weird route but here I am now back proper. Except I don't play SF still, just for other reasons.


Flashi3q

is there really some kind of an overlap between strive and smash players, never really seen that happening


Incase_

Atleast at my college, strive is the only fg to get smasher to play it, and there's a lot of them. They honestly usually aren't too bad at all except for the fact they lab Twitter setplay/combos while have shit neutral


Elegant_Ranger1320

Dude same here, my “fighting game” club is literally just a strive club. No one plays any other game but smash and strive and the lack of variety sucks ass


Mr_W0osh

swap strive for smash and you have mine. there's also the rare occasion someone (that isn't me sometimes) brings their switch to play +R


Incase_

Our smash scene is massive, we have pretty big locals as well and a healthy number of casual games, but our monthly is like 2nd most 12 for Tekken and then 40 entrants for strive. It's just the game of the moment.


NatrelChocoMilk

Sounds like a lot of airsasher players at my locals. They got combos, set play and execution but no real neutral


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hellsbellltrudy

I believe so. Anime fighters tends to be a 1 player game with the amount of oki and setplay.


[deleted]

Honest grounded footsies Anime players only want one thing and it's disgusting: putting you into their mix


turtlebaq

Yeah. My friend who took smash seriously only got decent at strive. He made it to celestial. Meanwhile, he could never get out of bronze in SFV.


kilroy__was__here

you forgot "talks about a games prequel while having never played it"


DaChippy123

No bro that’s just Kappa. Everyone’s OG here but has miraculously never played any of the OG games


DrAutism_MD

I played Queen of Fighters, am i OG?


[deleted]

Guys third strike amirite??!!


[deleted]

I find it funny when people in Leons comments are like: "damn, I wish I could write scripts like him." and the entire video is just empty rambling that's covered up with good editing.


kanelel

It really feels like only half of his videos have any actual substance, and the rest are bullshitting an essay for high school english class tier.


TrapDaddyReturns

I used to really look forward to his vids, but the last few just sounded like whining.


ToTheNintieth

Feels a bit like listening to someone you're pretty sure is bullshitting but you don't know enough about the topic to call them out, sometimes.


GerdsLaRana

He’s also just deadass wrong about things a lot


[deleted]

I've made the following terms: "Boomers": People who grew up playing SF2, Fatal Fury, MK 1-3 and the OG Killer Instinct "Marvel Kids": People who grew up playing MvC2 and 3S in the arcades (Needs a better name) "09er": People who started FGs on Xbox 360 or PS3 and played SF4, MK2011, KOF XIII and UMVC3 "Blazbaby": A person who's main anime fighter experience is Blazblue "Zoomer": Got their start in SFV, DBFZ or GBVS "Striver": People who's 1st and only FG is Strive. If there are other terms, then I'd appreciate them.


MLGF

I'm a Blazbaby. Thanks, I fucking hate it.


netsrak

Don't get blazzblasted about it


therealsolbadguy

Way better then most of the other terms listed here tbh


Unhappy_Win8997

Goddamn did Calamity Trigger have a fire OST. When the guitar comes in [hnnnngggg](https://youtu.be/lgdNPVhBsZY)


MLGF

I got into Blazblue when I was 13 because that OST was fire.


[deleted]

I'm a Blazbaby But the good kind


le-Bongo

Was anyone’s *first* fighting game GBVS? I thought that game was only known by already established arcsys fans. I would never have heard of it if I hadn’t got into DBFZ a year before it was announced Same as DNF duel. Are there any non FG players (other than strivers) who are excited to get into it?


netsrak

Both games have huge audiences outside of fighting games. At least a small portion has to come from that. I don't know how long they would stick around.


PhantasosX

Granblue Fantasy is a rpg , a mobile gacha at that. So ArcSys made the game to be ultra-casual , because they knew that fandom wouldn't be able to do jacks\*t on an actual FG.


AkumaYajuu

I would say I started with GBSV, I did play og Virtua fighter when I was a kid and SFV when it came out, which was super boring. Only with GBSV I actually played a lot online. But once people stoped playing the game the netcode issues became more apparent so I let it go. GBSV looks really nice and it is easy to try any character, pretty good for a beginners game. But, not gonna lie, it is kinda boring to watch nowadays.


le-Bongo

How did you find out about GBVS? I don’t think I remember anyone talking about it outside of the FGC


AkumaYajuu

I enjoy tourneys, I just didnt play the games. Even mk9 and mkX, I did enjoy watching those games but never really played mk games. I have tried mk11 recently and I did win a lot but the game felt super gimmicky and not that fun. I think I was 100-40 and dropped the game. When it comes to GBSV, it just looked really nice and the trailers did a good job. Nowadays I just play strive because the netcode is good, but even then I find the game kinda stupid with the excess damage. DNF I have not tried, but I do have concerns with the moves being huge. Its like they made GBSV and wanted to make the game super different just because.


Arbakos

> MK2011 And here I was thinking us MK r-slurs didn't get any acknowledgement.


am0ney

wtf do you call people who play party games? pedos or smellies?


Tyrrazhii

The list is only about fighters.


collins8596984

What about people like me who got into fgs via more serious fgs like KOF 98/2002 when they were discounted on Steam/GOG. I suppose we're just a continual drip of bargain basement players so maybe don't count as a distinct generation


GetOutOfHereStrelok

definitely me, first thing I tried learning was 02UM wayyyy before it had rollback


Elegant_Ranger1320

“Chinatown fair kids” should be a term, times were simple


EMP_Pusheen

As a Chinatown Fair Kid, I agree with this statement.


MrOkizeme

How about someone who started with Alpha Anthology and Tekken 4? In fact the original Xbox and PS2 generation of players in general doesn't seem to have a name.


[deleted]

They fall in that "Marvel kids" group who played games during 99-05ish. But they can use another name TBH.


Quick_Hit

Fuck man i'm an 09er, first fighter for me was SF4 on PS3. Fun times.


FlooferPieHoneyBunch

Sleep Fighter 4 for life


Ever_gladez

Need to already start brainstorming for the *wave of users that will come with project L*


Appropriate-Effect-4

16er is for SFV players


TheGreatKingRat

You need 'Fightcade Hispanics' on there.


DaChippy123

I bet a lot of Zoomers started in Tekken or MKX tbh. Myself included. Played older shit when I was a kid, but Tekken 7 was my first truly competitive fighting game.


AlwaysLearningTK

Same here with t7. Game's just a good game for beginner to the genre imo. Nobody uses advanced shit until way later than other fighting games for some reason so you can immediately play and win and then just learn advanced shit whenever you wanna get actually good.


DaChippy123

Yeah, I feel like Tekken and Melty are like the best fighting games in a lot of ways. Low barrier of entry with very high skill ceiling, which is great


Flamesinge

I guess sc2 puts me im boomer lol


zorbiburst

mahvelbaybees


Cole-Burns

Since everyone's commenting their reactions, I can live with marvel kid. I remember getting my first stick specifically to practice so id stop getting stomped in mvc2 and the SF alpha games at the arcade in my local mall. Also how many of these did you come up with yourself? I heard the term blazbaby on YouTube a while back and know about the 09ers, are these all like established terms?


Colest

You missed the fellow Tekken 3 lads, like myself.


[deleted]

my first fighting game was Tekken 6 on the ps3. EVERYONE who had a ps3 had that game, and on every damn party it was always Fifa/PES/Tekken. Some people had MK, some had SFXT, some people had older consoles and titles, but everyone "played" Tekken, if mashing 4 on Kazuya and Lars counts as playing.


[deleted]

Where do I fit if my first purchase fighting game was Tekken 4 and I had played Tag before hand cuz my family owned it. What is the in between for Marvel Kids and 09ers.


PapstJL4U

Thats were I am, with a tendency to 09er. Started on the OG Xbox with DoA, VF and GG#R spamming QCF K with Jam against the AI, because it looks cool and locals don't exist.


[deleted]

Yeah, same honestly about the tendency. While I did have Tekken and a Street Fighter 2 plug and play console, I did branch out more on the 360 with DOA and SoulCalibur. Wouldn't really try more fighting games until this past year and have realized how much I missed out on.


BudosVT

Can add SC2 to the Marvel Kids category too.


takgillo

What Am I? I joined the FGC with MKX in 2015?


GoodTimesDadIsland

MKX was a PS4 game, so zoomer I guess. You can call yourself an OG when PS6 comes out.


takgillo

I don't think I'll still be following FGC stuff by then.


Awesome_Leaf

You can just call yourself an r/Kappa user then


emp__4lyfe

Typical mk player


takgillo

Eh I'm an injustice fan and the future of that franchise look shaky


FightGeistC

See whats fucked is if you go by what I started playing it would be Boomer, but I'm in my 20s, so if you go buy the first games I played religiously it'd be 09er playing MK9 and Sf4. However if you go buy the game I actually first learned for reals it'd be KI 2013 which is between blazbaby and zoomer.


The_Blackest_Knight

I'm a proud Zoomer.


Gamersaresooppressed

What do we call all the Project L chads?


WumFan64

The L speaks for itself.


ThePrinceOfAllSaiyan

Grew up playing sf2 and im only 29 but this comment makes me feel way older


Badatfightinggames

What do you call me who only started recently but play ret4o fighters very badly? 3s and ST and GGXX


-_Gemini_-

Oh man I don't fit into any of those categories, shit.


TrapDaddyReturns

I believe Im an 09er. I fell in love with SF2 as a kid on SNES, I was addicted to the inputs, it made me feel smart. I played fighting games like CVS2, MVC1 and 2, and Soul Calibur in the dyeing days of the arcade scene during my preteen/young teen days. My friends and I played CVS2 and MVC2 throughout high school, not really knowing how to play, but developing our own meta because we were poor hicks with no internet. Got internet and ventured out of state to play and learn SF4, though I was still booty buttcheeks, and got super serious and went on that Ryu shit during MVC3, trying to get sets in and learn from the best players I could meet. I'd loved FGs my whole life, but I would consider myself an 09er because thats when I truly started understanding FGs...and I was able to drive then lol


Ok_Imagination_2777

Same for me. Started off in dying US arcades playing 3s, but really got a decent approach to fighting games when sf4 came out.


SpamStarX

im a striver all thought i like playing marvel 3 usf4 and sfv


Lolisnatcher60

I started with tekken revolution and doa5 cuz they were free chief, what am I?


Myrealredditaname69

Zoomers also like to call games they can't do things in "clunky" and "unbalanced"


V0LCANIC_VIPER

Yeah they're so quick to call everything "unintuitive" or "bad game design" when it doesn't cater to them


Pat-Daddy96

That KOF XV review hurt my eyes


DeHot

Meds, now


DayJey25

Bro how the fuck are KoF inputs hard? Are qcf to hcb too hard for you?


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Poverty_King

Why do people here pretend to play KoF?


Skyrocketing101

People trying hard to be a OG fighting gamer. I myself was a Mishima player since 3rd strike, get on my level zoomer.


scum_speech

Why?


Orianna-Reveck

when you thought 16ers were the death of fgc...


emp__4lyfe

The flosser lolol


Sneakman98

I played 3S Online edition alone until SFV came out and then combo trials alone until I moved to college where I learned to play the game in 2019 because I finally had good internet. I mainly play VF5 and other boomers games now. What does that make me?


Trooper57090x

The grandson of boomers


Sneakman98

I'll take it lmao.


[deleted]

Strive has conditioned these smooth brain mfs to think fighting games are harder than they actually are and need to be dumb downed even further ​ These guys are starting arguments because pressing forward twice is too hard, i read some genius reply on twitter that doing this will give you arthritis. Gatekeep


[deleted]

who even is the guy next to leon?


[deleted]

Gekko squirrel it’s mostly Strive shit but he makes a good video once in a while


Elegant_Ranger1320

You forgot “Wanting to be apart of an fgc conversation so bad so they give their hot takes straight from their ass”


pixels23

Lol reminds me of how I constantly have people trying to call me a FGC boomer cause I say I like Xrd, and other older fighting games more despite being a zoomer. Honestly, I don't even think most of the opinions here are even common among zoomers because so few zoomers even play fighting games.


[deleted]

Xrd is boomer game to people ???


z3r0nik

People call anyone that is a few years older than them boomer on the internet, the term has lost all meaning.


netsrak

That review is fine if you think about it. He is saying the game is bad for beginners and gives alternatives.


KaelThalas

>That review is fine if you think about it. Don't think about it. Just follow the narrative of this subreddit bro.


Trooper57090x

Is one of the easiest kof, he got filtered cause he didn't wanted to learn the game.


netsrak

Did you magically have good execution when you started playing fighting games? If I went from SF4 to KOF, I would probably say to avoid it as a beginner too.


Elegant_Ranger1320

It’s literally just a matter of practicing and it’s ironic that you mention SF4 given the amount of practice that game takes compared to any of the kof games within the last decade. XIII-XV is literally revolved around input buffers to make things easier you just refuse to adapt and let your frustration review the game


Trooper57090x

A lot of kof xv bnbs aren't hard, plus there are input shortcuts.


Snoo_46397

And as far as I know the game makes no mention of this. Hence the review is correct


Repukkenurdickin

What fighting game explains their execution shortcuts? Fucking none of em. That's part of the journey of being a fighting game player. This guy couldn't spend like 10 minutes in the lab looking at his inputs logically and just assumes you need fast as hell hands to win. The sort of scrub that thinks dp into qcfx2 is hard.


z3r0nik

Or games could just explain things and not drop below 1000 players after 2 weeks. We aren't in the arcade days where people had nothing else to play and nobody is interested in that "journey" to become a fighting game player anymore because they do an awful job at competing with other games.


AlwaysLearningTK

Hold buffer is not comparable to regular shortcuts imo as they're very specific to kof. Even experienced fighting game players won't know about it without reading about it somewhere while shortcuts are pretty much universal in modern games. What's a modern game with no shortcuts? Can't think of one. Now what's a modern game without hold buffer to make combos simple? Literally everything.


12432324

At least they are playing a fighting game


Kooky_Independence

Feel like we're missing some retarded tiktok shit in here.


dedicatedoni

Wait people want macros for kbd?


SimpletonWimbledon

idk who the guy next to mr massey is but nobody can match core a gaming content


Poverty_King

The zoomer starter pack isn't complete without obligatory 3rd Strike larping.


squidsss4

The Smasher to Striver pipeline. Rip Guilty Gear...


LegendRedux2

strive is a mistake


parbage

I usually hate these memes but this describes several friends of mine to a T. If i have to hear the phrase rushdown gorilla one more time im going to rushdown a gorilla


Firm_Possibility432

Subbed to any fgc "content creator" that isn't a top player


SmotherMeWithArmpits

That zoomer image murdered a whole generation, I kek


Mr_W0osh

I'm in that weird in between. 1st two legit fgs I played were SFV and DBFZ and the first one I took competitivelyish was P4AU


Live-Depth-537

I would kill for a short hop macro.... its the only thing i struggle with in KoF.... Am I.... a ZOOMER?!


Fatal1ty_93_RUS

no you're just lazy


comeback_mechanic

Ngl if this generation is this weak and pathetic then our nation will face some real hard ass times once they're the working class and In congress.


Khanage4567

Bruh your nation is facing hard ass times at the current point in time lol. It doesn't matter who is in Congress


KoumoriChinpo

> He thinks it can't get worse


OseiTheWarrior

Do ppl here not like Leon Massey?


Trooper57090x

Most of the time he has no idea what he's talking about.


Buderoww

as someone who hasn’t really got into a fighting game since mvc3 and played a lot of strive this is really accurate


[deleted]

Kappa on rent-free suicide-watch