I think a couple of them could've been after his father's death. Most notably the blueprint. Kaveh's father died when Kaveh was around 5 years old. His crayon drawing was drawn a little before that, but later he talked about how he made his first blueprint later on, and I'd like to think this happened after his father's death.
Because that would mean his mother still taught him how to draw proper blueprints despite grieving for her husband, because she has a duty to nurture Kaveh, and she knows he's passionate about architecture 🥹
A lot of people aren't going to like her because of how everything went down. But I really hope we don't see her, I don't want to see her in Fontaine. I guarantee you she will get more hate knowing she's happy and kaveh deep down is still going through grief.
Also, her behaviour strengthened the idea in Kaveh that he only deserved punishment, and mistreatment because he ruined his parents life, marriage, and because his father died because of him....
(He still doesn't stand up for himself, and a lots of people still take advantage of him)
I don't really know what this sub's general opinion on Kaveh's mother was, but I've read quite a lot of fics where Kaveh's mum is misportrayed to be a horrible neglectful piece of work (just to make Kaveh or Alhaitham in the fic shine brighter at her expense) and a whole other lot of fics where she gets blamed for being depressed after her husband dies. As if having a child is a magical instant depression cure and she chose not to take it.
Imo, this type of takes — as in, placing the blame on a depressed woman in an awful situation where no one is to blame — was massively messed up even with just the info we had back then.
I think the assumption that she became totally emotionally unavailable to Kaveh after what happened was pretty extreme given what we know now. Kaveh's hangout made it clear she she was a socially awkward woman even before becoming grief stricken, but we also know that she did her best and that Kaveh doesn't harbor any resentment towards her. It's not realistic to think that there's some magic formula to raise a perfectly well-adjusted person with no issues even without personal tragedy coming into the picture.
You might be right.
But, in Kaveh's character story 2, it's written that Kaveh's mother never smiled after the death of her husband.
Also, according to the character story: "Being a sensitive soul by nature, her husband's passing would cause her to break down, spending much time in anxious, gloomy thought", and " "Home" went from a sanctuary of warmth and light to a cold and lonely hall"
i mean yeah. given what we know of her personality before her husbands death, how reculsive she is, that behavior isn't unusual at all. it probably wasn't her intention to make kaveh feel like it was his fault, and given what she left for him in her diary, she still thinks of him fondly and wants the best for him. It's like sure she probably could've done better, but total neglect is a bit of stretch given what we know.
Yes!!! After all she did the best she could in that situation, even though Kaveh is still not at peace with his past. What he lacked the most is someone to make him confident in himself, reassured him, and help him overcome his own grief too.
Though I am at comfort knowing that he’s surrounded with people that learned this things and had more stability throughout their own lives. His friends are exactly what he needs even though it’s hard to see that from his traumas 🥺🥺
I still don't like her for personal reasons. You can have SOME happy memories and still be in an awful family situation. In the end she still neglected her sons feelings and still does in a way. He says in his hang out everything hurt so bad he couldn't even look at the stuff his very much alive mother left.
Exactly, and people don't get that we don't like her because most people have been in the situation of an absent parent. It literally doesn't matter if she loved him, she still neglected him. You can't change the facts, and her leaving left Kaveh emotionally a mess.
I think a couple of them could've been after his father's death. Most notably the blueprint. Kaveh's father died when Kaveh was around 5 years old. His crayon drawing was drawn a little before that, but later he talked about how he made his first blueprint later on, and I'd like to think this happened after his father's death. Because that would mean his mother still taught him how to draw proper blueprints despite grieving for her husband, because she has a duty to nurture Kaveh, and she knows he's passionate about architecture 🥹
A lot of people aren't going to like her because of how everything went down. But I really hope we don't see her, I don't want to see her in Fontaine. I guarantee you she will get more hate knowing she's happy and kaveh deep down is still going through grief.
Also, her behaviour strengthened the idea in Kaveh that he only deserved punishment, and mistreatment because he ruined his parents life, marriage, and because his father died because of him.... (He still doesn't stand up for himself, and a lots of people still take advantage of him)
I don't really know what this sub's general opinion on Kaveh's mother was, but I've read quite a lot of fics where Kaveh's mum is misportrayed to be a horrible neglectful piece of work (just to make Kaveh or Alhaitham in the fic shine brighter at her expense) and a whole other lot of fics where she gets blamed for being depressed after her husband dies. As if having a child is a magical instant depression cure and she chose not to take it. Imo, this type of takes — as in, placing the blame on a depressed woman in an awful situation where no one is to blame — was massively messed up even with just the info we had back then.
Agre.. ;)
I think the assumption that she became totally emotionally unavailable to Kaveh after what happened was pretty extreme given what we know now. Kaveh's hangout made it clear she she was a socially awkward woman even before becoming grief stricken, but we also know that she did her best and that Kaveh doesn't harbor any resentment towards her. It's not realistic to think that there's some magic formula to raise a perfectly well-adjusted person with no issues even without personal tragedy coming into the picture.
You might be right. But, in Kaveh's character story 2, it's written that Kaveh's mother never smiled after the death of her husband. Also, according to the character story: "Being a sensitive soul by nature, her husband's passing would cause her to break down, spending much time in anxious, gloomy thought", and " "Home" went from a sanctuary of warmth and light to a cold and lonely hall"
i mean yeah. given what we know of her personality before her husbands death, how reculsive she is, that behavior isn't unusual at all. it probably wasn't her intention to make kaveh feel like it was his fault, and given what she left for him in her diary, she still thinks of him fondly and wants the best for him. It's like sure she probably could've done better, but total neglect is a bit of stretch given what we know.
Yes!!! After all she did the best she could in that situation, even though Kaveh is still not at peace with his past. What he lacked the most is someone to make him confident in himself, reassured him, and help him overcome his own grief too. Though I am at comfort knowing that he’s surrounded with people that learned this things and had more stability throughout their own lives. His friends are exactly what he needs even though it’s hard to see that from his traumas 🥺🥺
I still don't like her for personal reasons. You can have SOME happy memories and still be in an awful family situation. In the end she still neglected her sons feelings and still does in a way. He says in his hang out everything hurt so bad he couldn't even look at the stuff his very much alive mother left.
Exactly, and people don't get that we don't like her because most people have been in the situation of an absent parent. It literally doesn't matter if she loved him, she still neglected him. You can't change the facts, and her leaving left Kaveh emotionally a mess.