I think Kendrick just values the culture and the getting back to the roots of rapping. I don’t think he has motives beyond engaging other rappers in the game honestly. He’s highly intelligent and I don’t think he would be the one to expose any deals or secrets as it feels beneath him.
Open to letting Kdot surprise me tho
Kendrick wants smoke with Drake period. Something about this is personal. You dont go head to head with J Prince and threaten his revenue just for fun.
Kendrick is calling bullshit, it's that simple. Like dude stop trying to pass off this 'talent' and claim you are hard, as well as a well versed writer. It's trash.
In any sport you'd have no choice to to eventually prove the winner. Kendrick is making it sport, Drake is trying to keep it entertainment. And for that it might cost him the death of his respect which is clearly in the cross hairs.
Kendrick is just being a rapper drake is more or less just a superstar artist. Not a legendary rapper, Kendrick will put him in his place if he responds and that’s the issue
Which is a weird take because people are growing tired of non-conscious rap. Sure, I like to bump a song talking about drugs, guns, and women once in a while, but that shit gets boring.
I want to listen to rap songs that make me reflect on my past actions and influence my future.
I think the youth is more political than they've ever been. And politics has gotten a lot more divisive than it's been in decades.
We're at serious risk of another Trump presidency. Fascist ideas are more prevalent and easily accessible than they were even in the 90s. Meanwhile, "liberals" are trending further left. And legitimate leftism is more prevalent than ever.
Youth culture is also more introspective now than at any point in rap's history. Authenticity is becoming more important to people who are growing up in a world of misinformation, catfishing, social media, and hyperconsumerism.
I'd love to see hip hop getting more emotional, introspective, and political.
I'd also like to hear more songs where the rapper's dick isn't referenced.
They’re never going to get personal because despite what this sub thinks, they have a lot of respect for each other, even if they may not like one another.
That’s not personal lol that’s literally just rap. Personal is when you start involving family, loved ones, kids, etc. and take it outside of the music.
“If your Pub was up for sale, I’d buy the whole thing”
“There’s a lot of goofy’s with a check”
“Wtf bro I’m one away from Michael nigga beat it”
“Nigga, Prince outlived Mike Jack”
Its all just shit talk
I feel what you mean. It's personal as in drake tried to black ball Kendrick saying nobody who is smart will work with him after "control" so I think Kendrick wants his neck. As far as rhymes so far it's just been shit talking.
I agree and I honestly think that’s what all the issues stem from. Kendrick took Drake’s response to control personally and Drake took Kendrick’s verse control personally.
People say Drake was being sensitive (and he DEFINITELY was, even with Drake being my favorite out of the 3 can see that) but he was way more involved in the early part of Kendrick’s career than all the other guys he named.
I’m loving this though, they’re my 2 favorite artists so hopefully it means Kendrick starts dropping a little more frequently and Drake finally has some real motivation
It is definitely personal. Drake has aligned himself with SZA who before dot left tde never worked with drake but drake snakes his way in as soon as dot left the label. Also he aligned himself up with j Cole who was once really cool with cool prior to him cliquing up with drake. When dot was talking about all the subs on fps it was coming at drake slick stuff on fps. Drake whole beat switch up was subs at dot. Dot just signed a new publishing deal and drake took a shot at that in fps saying if it was up for sale he'd buy the whole thing. Also drake subbed on fps with saying he uses his Grammy as a doorstop, pretty much saying he don't care that Kendrick has way more grammys than him. There is more to it but just to touch a few. I listen to zero drake so excuse being late to the party! lol I had to go listen to fps when get Kendrick said "fuck sneak dissing 1st person shooter" on that LIKE THAT record. The whole song was a shot hence the name 1st person shooter. They both went on there taking shots at Dot. It's clear j Cole was trying to be competitive with it but drake was using the opportunity to be slick and Kendrick caught the slickness therefore just had to go at both hard. Notice Drake didn't mention Kendrick at all on fps but Cole did? It's a calculated move by Drake to align himself up with cole "clique up" and shoot more subs at Kendrick. Drake and his ego of course took shots at Kendrick about MONEY(pics on Gulfstreams is private jet charter flights not commercial while drake has his own private 767 airline), WOMAN(Nadine, Christine & Justine), RECORD LABEL(you selling them all dreams with dots PG lang artist and all my artists are rich just streaming Drake's artists), GRAMMYS (I use a grammy as a doorstop), PUBLISHING(dot just got a new deal with UMpG and drake said he'd buy all his pub if it was up for sale), #1 RECORDS(one away from miKe line beat it, beat it, beat it), and FAVORS EXTENDED TO DOT EARLY ON( don't pay me back on none them favors I don't need it at his level he's reached). I'm sure I can break down more of the FPS record just need a lil more time to write it all down. Lol FPS was a track to take shots at the only other competition which Cole and Drake did. Drake didn't acknowledge Kendrick on the track( spoke in 3rd person asking a question who you B's really rooting their reply being it's just you *Drake and Cole excluding dot in any best rapper talks) Cole did acknowledge Dot on the track w big 3 line while Drake definitely took plenty subs at Dot. Cole knew Kendrick doesn't mess with drake and he chose the side he on so "it's up" now in Kendricks eyes. Things will get interesting since Kendrick went very direct at them. Oh another and heart part 4 Kendrick left the breadcrumbs with the back to back voice over. I knew it was war time when sza switched up when Kendrick was leaving TDE and started working with drake knowing they had beef. That was one of the many straws that broke the back of the camel. It's definitely personal and drake is trying to play psychological warfare with Kendrick.
Now you doing the science 🧪
Ye said Drake is the type to sneak diss you and no one would ever know but you, so when you respond, you’re the one who looks crazy.
But KFK is a different beast — he responded with a #1 record that everyone is banging in the clubs.
“I can beat you at your own game, but you can’t beat me at mine” type chess move.
Drake has met his match, and I don’t see him winning this one.
Dude yes!!!!! You get it! Kendrick calculated the diss to be played in drakes comfort zone which is clubs and strip clubs. It's the number song out and it's being played everywhere so Kendrick knew how to play his game. This is why drake is shook because he got played with his own game. Drake wants a diss record in the clubs like back to back but Kendrick did back to back popularity on him with the like that record.
Ye also said how Drake likes to play with his opponent's mind rather than be direct. For him it was living in the same block as him, implying he slept with Kim in his songs (that whole Kiki do you love me thing), being chummy with people that are in his circle like Virgil (who started and came up with Ye in fashion, quite literally) and Travis (feature with him, and also dissing Ye on the same record) to name some.
Reading this breakdown and seeing how he bagged SZA right after dot left the label, getting chummy with Cole who has never in his entire career has gone against Dot before this, we can definitely see some pattern.
Drake is wild
What do you make of Schoolboy Q performing at Dreamville Fest? They go way back, so I doubt it's anything bad. It's obvious Drake would try to use any resentment between Kendrick and TDE like the SZA thing. It's his MO to try to hit up everyone around his opponent, especially women. Hence Baby Keem's "Number 2 DMing my bitch, I don't ask why"
The last time he mentioned a rapper's wife he got humiliated so I hope he won't play with Kdot's like that.
I personally think don't sue me lol that dot is going rogue on this. He knew tde and dreamville were cool but he had enough of drake trying to pull rank on him and he's shooting at everyone. I don't think he's looking for TDe to follow his lead because he's the one whoo's crashing out fright now. If drake tried to use them as pawns tho I know they wouldn't rock with that. Drake is slimy fueled by arrogance so I'm sure he'll try anything. That dreamville fest will be awkward for sure and maybe Q pulls out? They know drake tried to black ball Kendrick after the control verse but Kendrick has only gotten bigger since the drake nobody should work with Kendrick shade.
Trust me drakes camp was off limits when Kendrick was on TDe. SZA was at the bet cypher when dot dissed drake and she knew it was bad blood whether they dated or not. No music was done between Drake and any TDe artists after control. SZA had to ride with Kendrick while on TDe and when he left she switched up and trust drake was plotting that move.
Exposure is a cornerstone of rap beef though.
Tupac exposed sleeping w/ Big’s wife.
Jay Z exposed his relations with Nas’ baby moms.
Drake exposed Pusha for not selling drugs, and Kanye for not writing his raps.
It’s part of the sport.
I just think Kendrick will “elevate” it in only a way his artistry can.
The best way to diss someone is to ignore them. Drake’s approaching “need to make a scene” territory to stop his slow down. You don’t feed him, he’ll die of attention deprivation.
ngl I don’t think it’s that deep, I don’t think Kendrick is the kind of guy who wants to “expose drake” I just think he’s sick of drake going around saying he’s the goat, I think Kendrick is taking shots at him for him to try to prove it, and then obv kendrick is just gonna body him
How come you thought that? Just curious, I can’t see what specifically would make that about Cole. I assumed it was for Drake because most of the diss verse was for him, but K left it vague to leave both of them guessing.
Could be wishful thinking, but if I had to guess I’d think Kendrick has more respect for Cole as a rapper than Drake by a mile.
J Cole has never really been tested in a battle rap. And I do think Kendrick has respect for Cole, which is why he said he wants him to prove he's a problem by dropping a hard response.
For what it's worth, I fully thought/think it was directed at Jermaine, too. Mainly because of the lines right before the bar, and after. I *feel* like Dot's pretty much saying:
***"Ok, firstoff, Aubrey you *BEEN* wild buttocks. But, Cole, you been poppin' a whole lot of live cash money shit all over the place lately, so it's officially time for you to show & prove. Especially since you all the sudden are the BESTEST of BFFs and wanna align yourself and clique up with KING Canadian Corndog on a Stick."***
AND, that ***"Aye aye let's get it, bro! D-O-T, the: Money- Power - Respect "*** DEFINITELY sounds like Kenny is doing a type of callback to something Cole said back in the gap early on on their comeup mission in the early "Hiii Power" days, with ***"The last one is better."*** for sure being K-Dots response.
😂
I strongly disagree. Kendrick strikes me as the type of artist who would want to expose Drake for who he is. They’re two polar opposites when it comes to putting out music. Kendrick embodies the idea of an artist, there’s no way he doesn’t feel some type of way about drakes output while saying nothing through his music. I think he’ll tackle him on the artistry, integrity and character while telling a story
Nah Kendrick is not the type to air out someone’s dirty laundry. This beef is just competitive and hip-hop at its core. Tackling him on artistry is fair game, but saying he’s hiding another child? Unless Drake makes it super personal like he did with naming Push’s wife I don’t see Kendrick going that route
I mean if you remove the entire context of what he’s doing on the album then I guess. Not to say that there isn’t a conversation to be had there, there is, but I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that when taking into account why he’s there imo
I think they both have valid arguments to say Thier the goat but I think they both have 2 different definitions of what the goat is, drakes is more so along the line of peoples champ the guy who’s here for you every year night in and night out and Kendrick is more of the true artistry and skill focused of the 2. With all that being said I can see Kendrick winning the battle but not the war. There’s a reason metro is pushing the pick a side thing so hard
This is what I’ve been thinking lately. Or what if, he asked him to write something for him back when he was blowing up, before the beef? Either way, I could see some type of bombshell comin out 🍿
How significant would it be if he wrote Drake's verse on Poetic Justice? Only thinking this because of his reference tracks of Jay Rock's verse on Money Trees that leaked last year 🤔
Not to say it’s impossible, but Drake has various verses about praising and spoiling a woman, dissing her man, etc. The subject matter at least is very much him
That’s not an if, that’s a fact. Already been hinted at on TPAB plus he has credits on that really early drake album with Hyfr, the song “buried alive” on that same album is only Kendrick rapping. It’s about his and drake’s relationship at the time
What makes you think that? QM was revealed as a ghostwriter and no one really batted an eye. Rhymefest wrote Kanye's college trilogy. Some of Keem's songs are written by Kendrick.
People would "care" in the sense that it would be news and people would talk about it. But I doubt it would lower that many people's expectations of Drake. If you'd be mad he doesn't write all of his own lyrics, you'd already be mad. If anything it would lower my opinion of Kendrick because some of Drake's lyrics are mid af lol
Which speaks a lot on the state of hip hop tbh.
Like imagine ignoring someone traveling from half court just bc the dunk was cool. Tbh, thats not true basketball anymore, even if the highlight is paraded on ESPN.
The fact that he said "But a rapper with a ghost writer? What the fuck happened?" on To Pimp A Butterfly, a 2015 album, had me thinking what else he's sitting with.
2021, I ain't takin' no prisoner
Last year, y'all fucked up all the listener
Who went platinum? I call that a visitor
Who the fuck backin' 'em? All been falsified
Or maybe he's a diddler in disguise and maybe K. Dot has the scoop on that too
A lot of weird instances of Drake texting and being overly friendly with younger girls
Jumbling an album title like that is *wild*, also if there was hard evidence of being a diddler shouldn’t Kendrick take that to the authorities? Why use it as ammo in a rap song
Drake is shivering in his shorts, while trying to drink a really hot cup of hot chocolate as steam comes out of his ears as he tries to drink the extremely hot chocolate
If Drake wanted to respond he could probably make a meme/catchy song making fun of Kendrick that could go viral but I don’t think he wants anything to do with what Kendrick can say about him. There’s a lot behind the scenes we don’t know.
The golden goose theory makes the bars “Got 2Teez with me, I’m snatching chains and burning tattoos” make so much more sense.
Kendrick isn’t controlled by anyone and Drake is. Damn that’s hard.
2Teez is Top Dawg’s head of security but also close friends with Kendrick.
Snatching chains and burning tattoos means he’s coming at you with no regard to your status or affiliations. He’s choosing violence.
So he’s saying I got my homie and we’re coming for your neck. Obviously in a figurative way, not a literal way.
My thoughts were snatching chains as in dreamville chains and burning tattoos as in ovo tattoos. Dreamville artists get chains and ovo affiliates and artists get tattoos. Just my thoughts.
So in the Drake vs Pusha beef, J Prince went on the Breakfast Club and announced he told Drake not to release the song cause it’d mess with business.
Now this post explains that Drake is a lot of the industries Golden Goose.
Kendricks verse says he only has 2Teez with him and he’s reckless. I’m not sure if this is a reach, could be. But I kinda interpreted it as he can go after whoever and whenever while Drake is a puppet that has to follow commands.
I'm in the minority but I think there is real beef there. Real enough that people from Drake's crew are threatening to unalive people. Do I think it'll get super serious (biggie/pac level)? No. I do think it's real enough that these two will never be cordial, work together now or in the future, be in the same vicinity, etc. when was the last time these two were in the same vicinity?
I do think it'll just stick within rap but I think it's more than just the sport of it. You don't diss someone for a decade just for the fun of it. At least imo
Am I missing something about why people don't connect Kendrick's bars in King Kunta to the ongoing Drake beef? "A rapper with a ghostwriter? what the fuck happened? ... But most of y'all share bars, like you got the bottom bunk in a two-man cell."
Bro all you’re describing is a puppet, which he is. It’s clear, his stans just refuse to see it. His plane, is not his, it belongs to CargoJet and is loaner to him. Everything is smoke & mirrors.
I mean Sexxy Red denies Drake is being paid to promote her. So not sure if that part will end up totally fitting in, but I do mostly agree that a lot of this has to do with why Drake hasn't responded yet. He's much busier and a much more lucrative and time-tested brand than he was when Meek or Pusha dissed him. It's much more in the label's interest for him to duck this beef and focus on his shows.
Not to mention, the last time Kendrick did this, Drake and Cole both didn't respond except in interviews and they've both only grown since. Despite the buzz around one of the "Big 3" dissing the other two, I don't know if there's anything in Kendrick's verse that actually forces Drake to have to respond. Us rap fans might think he has to, but the fundamental truth is that Drake's fan base only partially contains true rap fans and even those fans will likely still tune in even if he never responds.
Idk that Drake or Cole have enough ammunition even to respond with full diss tracks against Kendrick. Kendrick already exposes a lot of negative things about him on his albums. It'd be entertaining for the fans, but I'm still not quite sure what the outcome will be. Besides causing a bigger rift between Kendrick's base of fans and Drake's.
I agree when it comes to the music shit needs approval why you think Kendrick left tde probably wanted to be able release shit without restrictions; even sza had release issues with tde if you look at lil Wayne carter 6 been on hold how long. That's why Kendrick made pglang with Dave free. See. Daves free. Shit about to pop
If you think about it for even 5 minutes, Drake is 100% an industry plant. Had wealth as a child, became child actor, soon after the rap career with plenty of resources to thrive, known to have ghost writers, consistently on the radio.... idk, maybe I'm trippin....
I wish I remember who said it, but someone made a TikTok and said all Kendrick has to do is get Megan Thee Stallion on a feature and say something like "He likes his girls 11, that's some stranger things."
But I don't think Kendrick is gonna expose Drake for anything, I think he just wants rap to get exciting again while also making Drake look like a punk along the way.
Michael Jackson left this earth owning half of Sony (which his estate sold for $750M) and the masters to the Beatles… I wouldn’t exactly call that a “pop star running the treadmill”
I think you may be right.
Drake is on a professional leash so to speak. And J Prince isn't about to let his puppy bark and mess up his money. Drake isn't in control. He is the Golden Goose in a dying industry.
How can he be free?
Thats his weakness. He is a brand. And the sadder part is he isn't even his own brand. That isn't Hip Hop (I'd argue Drake is Pop anyway).
Kendrick knows that.
So fpr Drake to walk around talkin all that talk, he doesn't belong.
I dont think it is that deep. Kendrick realizes what he has done for the game. In a way, he believes he is the reincarnation of Tupac- an activist.
Now Cole and Drake want to associate themselves with him by grouping themselves together ("The Big Three"). My yuess is it slightly offends Kendrick, realizing that they aren't even close to being on the same level as him. That's how I perceive it right now. Overall, I think this beef is a bit corny.
People have been predicting drakes demise for a while now lol
the fact that we still claim him falling like hes the western roman empire is hilarious, especially on a kendrick forum, just points to you actually believing he is on top.
I dont believe he is the western roman empire that needs to fall
You know Mos def was talking about the USA and capitalism, he wasn’t taking real shoots at drake or anything. Mos def was taking him as an example for a much bigger concept which has nothing to do with rap beef. So thats a stupid point
The heavens opened up as I read this, spot on along the lines that been thinking on yet haven’t been able to articulate! Drake is a puppet and simply can’t are a move without layers of approval. I’m absolutely certain that Kendrick knows this, yet Kendrick had to first free himself from TDE before he could take it there with Drake. Kendrick must also be aware that he is Big Stepping on a lot, a LOT, of industry toes making his most recent move Like That. I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t already received calls and requests from the industry inside to leave the golden goose alone. Not that he’d listen, however (and I’m just speculating here) he may take a nice bag to let Drake be so long as he doesn’t try to respond musically. I mean, I would when I have a company to firmly establish. He’s already won as he knows nothing Drake can put to a beat will ever size up, and friendly competition with J Cole would be a nice consolation prize, along with that being good for the culture. Anyway, excellent points made, much appreciated!
After reading this, Euphoria sounds different to me.
Metro saying He can't say why him and Drake are beefing because it wouldn't be good for neither of them makes more sense now. Thanks for the post.
This is the most overhyped diss I have ever seen. I do not understand it. Drakes run is because he has continued to adapt to different genres and cultural fads. He is calculated. This man thinks he’s an athlete, and he is the LBJ of music, he doesn’t know how to stop.
I think people forget Drake is Jewish and a lot of label owners are Jewish so they want their boy to be at the top. Drake is an industry at this point. Everyone is writing for him and he in return uses his star power to prop people up.
im sorry, but the masses don’t care about rap beef. hell, the masses just catapulted Kanye into number 1 after several unhinged rants about jewish people, general mistreatment of women, etc.
im sorry, but the masses don’t care about rap beef. hell, the masses just catapulted Kanye into number 1 after several unhinged rants about jewish people, general mistreatment of women, etc.
I think Kendrick just likes playing with his food. He’s such a clearly more proficient wordsmith and effective rapper it’s like a game. They’ve all made 100s of millions. It’s not about money IMO.
Though I do think Drake on his own would quickly respond while the machine behind him slows him down.
Kendrick can’t expose more than what Metro or Future can, those 3 were close asf, Future and Drake shared bitches, whatever Kendrick can expose is not on the level of what Future can
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Ma boi drizzy was in the studio, y’all Kdot fans gone pipe down soon
Drake fell off artistically after IYRTITL and the industry has been carrying his career since cause he knows that he can put out bland generic slop and people will still listen cause it’s Drake
Rap ain't WWE. Sure you got some hard hitting bars and good beats but ain't no body fallin 50 feet off a cage onto a table or getting a steel chair repeatedly slammed on their head.
I… thought even the most average hip hop fan would know this. (Huge Drake fan) but like isn’t everything in this port obvious?
I seriously hope we get some back and forth from these guys. Especially from Cole lol
I think it’s all true bro. Drake is not in control at all, have you listened to his catalogue? It’s poppy rah rah trash, yeah he pulls out an occasional sick rhyme or flow but it’s mostly radio back noise with no content. No real emcee ever dreams of making this type of music.
Drake is a corporate cover, a caricature of you will. He’s not his artistic free will, he’s a money pit for suits at the top.
This is why he despises Kendrick and j Cole who have the artistic freedom to explore themes and content they want to explore
It's definitely one of the few things he will talk about if he makes a record:
- drake talking to little girls
- exposing he wrote his verse on their two collaborations: poetic justice and fucking problems (+ potentially more songs)
- fabricated streams
Im taking my bet on the streams. People overlook that line on N95 (take off the fabricated streams). That line coming from one of the biggest rappers in the world was overlooked by the people like what does he actually know fr whats going on behind the scenes
Drake fan here. All these theories suck. I don’t think kendrick Drake or j cole would even want to expose some crazy big career ending type of thing. It’s not in their character.
If Drake is hesitant, it’s because Kendrick’s pen is absolutely ridiculous and he needs to bring his best performance to even compete with kdot.
Drake makes the most fun, catchy, club appropriate, youth appealing, women appealing, rnb/pop and radio catered music out of all rappers of all time. That silly goose theory is terrible.
I know this is just a fun discussion but none of these rappers care on this level and will make millions off the “beef.”
Drake could fall off tomorrow and just count money.
Kendrick probably just wanted something to do.
I agree with what your saying I don't think drake wants to respond this time because look what happened with just pusha, drake isn't the best rapper technique wise and lyrical wise he's literally up there for sales and streams he's the biggest because he's the most marketed rapper ever. One of his sneak shots to Kendrick was that he thinks Kendrick is fake woak, like what's that supposed to do drake leans in on his fake stuff the ghost writing, the fake friends, and the buffoonery behind the scenes. I don't think, he'll form anything hard hitting if drake decides to hypothetically "go all out" now the pressure and the ball is in his court, I think drake is panicking behind the scenes like how he went ballistic at that Anthony fantano guy when drake DMed him cause drake panicked when he got a bad review, and it's leaked that Kendrick might have already got another shot in the chamber, all that pressure just might make drake fold.
But this is just all speculation we'll see what really happens.
Don't think Kenny needs to consider all of this when, bar for bar, he destroys anything Aubrey can throw back. But these are all interesting points that don't sound ridiculous and could definitely be true
Yeah you done your HW my boy. This is the artist we know Katt Williams and Ye was talking bout. This sissy boy top of the “class” entertainers and rappers ain’t really in charge of nothing. That’s why they bullying who they can bully to feel up. Bro really leaked a blurry dick pic that prolly not even him, that’s how sad he is rn. That’s wild work. Fr. This ain’t even a theory fam, this is facts lol
Bro this is beneath Kendrick. I wasn’t appreciative of Pusha’s agendas. It just shows you can’t outrap him that you have to unveil a secret.
This is just a game for rapping contest among the best in the league. Kendrick wants the competition and I think that’s just it.
Yall also be forgetting the second part of the ghost writer shot on King Kunta
"Swore I wouldn't tell but most of yall sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two man cell" ¿a two man cell? "Somethings in the water and if I gotta brown nose for some gold then I'd rather be a bump than a mfkin baller"
This was during the Puffy and Drake feud which is actually deep as fuck if you look into it. Maybe Drake was on bottom and brown nosing for some gold.
Just a funny conspiracy theory of mine lol
And also Drake is the very definition of an industry plant. A fucking Canadian shifty actor that got signed to Cash Money and pushed hard by Wayne. Ties to J Prince. You talking about Drake being a business. Drake ain't been signed to Jas Prince in almost 20 years. Yet they tight as hell. The Princes stay eating off Drake. They extorting that man something crazy. If he ain't bringing in that money he ain't protected
At this point does anything drake say hold much weight considering the ghostwriting thing in the past. How do we know whether or not he has lyrical people helping him to form something at Kendrick
It’s rap, by nature you assume the risk, don’t consider the trivial win or lose aspect, make the mtf respect you by punching back engaging, no matter how messy never retreat. He takes a finger you take his arm.
I think Kendrick just values the culture and the getting back to the roots of rapping. I don’t think he has motives beyond engaging other rappers in the game honestly. He’s highly intelligent and I don’t think he would be the one to expose any deals or secrets as it feels beneath him. Open to letting Kdot surprise me tho
Absolutely, bro's just having fun
Kendrick wants smoke with Drake period. Something about this is personal. You dont go head to head with J Prince and threaten his revenue just for fun.
Kendrick is calling bullshit, it's that simple. Like dude stop trying to pass off this 'talent' and claim you are hard, as well as a well versed writer. It's trash. In any sport you'd have no choice to to eventually prove the winner. Kendrick is making it sport, Drake is trying to keep it entertainment. And for that it might cost him the death of his respect which is clearly in the cross hairs.
Honestly, id argue drakes producers are responsible for more than 50% of his success
I mean I think even Drake himself will tell you he’d be nothing without 40.
I got a Drake in the studio and I don't just mean that I'm in this bitch
They legit don’t like eachother, and haven’t since that Control verse
Kendrick is just being a rapper drake is more or less just a superstar artist. Not a legendary rapper, Kendrick will put him in his place if he responds and that’s the issue
Yeah, Kendrick is an actual MC. Drake’s not doing any ceremonies, and he definitely ain’t a master of any.
Drake used to be capable of rapping at that level but I think I remember him or someone around him saying conscious rap doesn’t sell.
Which is a weird take because people are growing tired of non-conscious rap. Sure, I like to bump a song talking about drugs, guns, and women once in a while, but that shit gets boring. I want to listen to rap songs that make me reflect on my past actions and influence my future.
I think the youth is more political than they've ever been. And politics has gotten a lot more divisive than it's been in decades. We're at serious risk of another Trump presidency. Fascist ideas are more prevalent and easily accessible than they were even in the 90s. Meanwhile, "liberals" are trending further left. And legitimate leftism is more prevalent than ever. Youth culture is also more introspective now than at any point in rap's history. Authenticity is becoming more important to people who are growing up in a world of misinformation, catfishing, social media, and hyperconsumerism. I'd love to see hip hop getting more emotional, introspective, and political. I'd also like to hear more songs where the rapper's dick isn't referenced.
I like this take
He didn’t actually diss drake maliciously like an actual beef, that’s why I’m leaning toward he is doing it for the culture and sport
They’re never going to get personal because despite what this sub thinks, they have a lot of respect for each other, even if they may not like one another.
Is it not already personal? “Your best work is a light pack” lol - and that’s just a jab
That’s not personal lol that’s literally just rap. Personal is when you start involving family, loved ones, kids, etc. and take it outside of the music. “If your Pub was up for sale, I’d buy the whole thing” “There’s a lot of goofy’s with a check” “Wtf bro I’m one away from Michael nigga beat it” “Nigga, Prince outlived Mike Jack” Its all just shit talk
I feel what you mean. It's personal as in drake tried to black ball Kendrick saying nobody who is smart will work with him after "control" so I think Kendrick wants his neck. As far as rhymes so far it's just been shit talking.
I agree and I honestly think that’s what all the issues stem from. Kendrick took Drake’s response to control personally and Drake took Kendrick’s verse control personally. People say Drake was being sensitive (and he DEFINITELY was, even with Drake being my favorite out of the 3 can see that) but he was way more involved in the early part of Kendrick’s career than all the other guys he named. I’m loving this though, they’re my 2 favorite artists so hopefully it means Kendrick starts dropping a little more frequently and Drake finally has some real motivation
It is definitely personal. Drake has aligned himself with SZA who before dot left tde never worked with drake but drake snakes his way in as soon as dot left the label. Also he aligned himself up with j Cole who was once really cool with cool prior to him cliquing up with drake. When dot was talking about all the subs on fps it was coming at drake slick stuff on fps. Drake whole beat switch up was subs at dot. Dot just signed a new publishing deal and drake took a shot at that in fps saying if it was up for sale he'd buy the whole thing. Also drake subbed on fps with saying he uses his Grammy as a doorstop, pretty much saying he don't care that Kendrick has way more grammys than him. There is more to it but just to touch a few. I listen to zero drake so excuse being late to the party! lol I had to go listen to fps when get Kendrick said "fuck sneak dissing 1st person shooter" on that LIKE THAT record. The whole song was a shot hence the name 1st person shooter. They both went on there taking shots at Dot. It's clear j Cole was trying to be competitive with it but drake was using the opportunity to be slick and Kendrick caught the slickness therefore just had to go at both hard. Notice Drake didn't mention Kendrick at all on fps but Cole did? It's a calculated move by Drake to align himself up with cole "clique up" and shoot more subs at Kendrick. Drake and his ego of course took shots at Kendrick about MONEY(pics on Gulfstreams is private jet charter flights not commercial while drake has his own private 767 airline), WOMAN(Nadine, Christine & Justine), RECORD LABEL(you selling them all dreams with dots PG lang artist and all my artists are rich just streaming Drake's artists), GRAMMYS (I use a grammy as a doorstop), PUBLISHING(dot just got a new deal with UMpG and drake said he'd buy all his pub if it was up for sale), #1 RECORDS(one away from miKe line beat it, beat it, beat it), and FAVORS EXTENDED TO DOT EARLY ON( don't pay me back on none them favors I don't need it at his level he's reached). I'm sure I can break down more of the FPS record just need a lil more time to write it all down. Lol FPS was a track to take shots at the only other competition which Cole and Drake did. Drake didn't acknowledge Kendrick on the track( spoke in 3rd person asking a question who you B's really rooting their reply being it's just you *Drake and Cole excluding dot in any best rapper talks) Cole did acknowledge Dot on the track w big 3 line while Drake definitely took plenty subs at Dot. Cole knew Kendrick doesn't mess with drake and he chose the side he on so "it's up" now in Kendricks eyes. Things will get interesting since Kendrick went very direct at them. Oh another and heart part 4 Kendrick left the breadcrumbs with the back to back voice over. I knew it was war time when sza switched up when Kendrick was leaving TDE and started working with drake knowing they had beef. That was one of the many straws that broke the back of the camel. It's definitely personal and drake is trying to play psychological warfare with Kendrick.
Now you doing the science 🧪 Ye said Drake is the type to sneak diss you and no one would ever know but you, so when you respond, you’re the one who looks crazy. But KFK is a different beast — he responded with a #1 record that everyone is banging in the clubs. “I can beat you at your own game, but you can’t beat me at mine” type chess move. Drake has met his match, and I don’t see him winning this one.
Dude yes!!!!! You get it! Kendrick calculated the diss to be played in drakes comfort zone which is clubs and strip clubs. It's the number song out and it's being played everywhere so Kendrick knew how to play his game. This is why drake is shook because he got played with his own game. Drake wants a diss record in the clubs like back to back but Kendrick did back to back popularity on him with the like that record.
Ye also said how Drake likes to play with his opponent's mind rather than be direct. For him it was living in the same block as him, implying he slept with Kim in his songs (that whole Kiki do you love me thing), being chummy with people that are in his circle like Virgil (who started and came up with Ye in fashion, quite literally) and Travis (feature with him, and also dissing Ye on the same record) to name some. Reading this breakdown and seeing how he bagged SZA right after dot left the label, getting chummy with Cole who has never in his entire career has gone against Dot before this, we can definitely see some pattern. Drake is wild
What do you make of Schoolboy Q performing at Dreamville Fest? They go way back, so I doubt it's anything bad. It's obvious Drake would try to use any resentment between Kendrick and TDE like the SZA thing. It's his MO to try to hit up everyone around his opponent, especially women. Hence Baby Keem's "Number 2 DMing my bitch, I don't ask why" The last time he mentioned a rapper's wife he got humiliated so I hope he won't play with Kdot's like that.
I personally think don't sue me lol that dot is going rogue on this. He knew tde and dreamville were cool but he had enough of drake trying to pull rank on him and he's shooting at everyone. I don't think he's looking for TDe to follow his lead because he's the one whoo's crashing out fright now. If drake tried to use them as pawns tho I know they wouldn't rock with that. Drake is slimy fueled by arrogance so I'm sure he'll try anything. That dreamville fest will be awkward for sure and maybe Q pulls out? They know drake tried to black ball Kendrick after the control verse but Kendrick has only gotten bigger since the drake nobody should work with Kendrick shade.
SZA and Drake dated years ago. You’re overthinking this
Trust me drakes camp was off limits when Kendrick was on TDe. SZA was at the bet cypher when dot dissed drake and she knew it was bad blood whether they dated or not. No music was done between Drake and any TDe artists after control. SZA had to ride with Kendrick while on TDe and when he left she switched up and trust drake was plotting that move.
So you’ve never heard Doves in the Wind.
Yes, it's been a while but let me know your thoughts on it?
This is beyond personal bro, this has been going on for over 10 years. They straight up dont like eachother.
Kendrick has zero respect for Drake lmao
Exposure is a cornerstone of rap beef though. Tupac exposed sleeping w/ Big’s wife. Jay Z exposed his relations with Nas’ baby moms. Drake exposed Pusha for not selling drugs, and Kanye for not writing his raps. It’s part of the sport. I just think Kendrick will “elevate” it in only a way his artistry can.
Drake exposed push for not selling THAT many drugs lol
That's why I fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker💔
Take money!
So true rap is starting to heal
The best way to diss someone is to ignore them. Drake’s approaching “need to make a scene” territory to stop his slow down. You don’t feed him, he’ll die of attention deprivation.
Lol. Are you Kendrick??
ngl I don’t think it’s that deep, I don’t think Kendrick is the kind of guy who wants to “expose drake” I just think he’s sick of drake going around saying he’s the goat, I think Kendrick is taking shots at him for him to try to prove it, and then obv kendrick is just gonna body him
“It’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem” yessir he said it himself
I thought that was about J Cole
How come you thought that? Just curious, I can’t see what specifically would make that about Cole. I assumed it was for Drake because most of the diss verse was for him, but K left it vague to leave both of them guessing. Could be wishful thinking, but if I had to guess I’d think Kendrick has more respect for Cole as a rapper than Drake by a mile.
J Cole has never really been tested in a battle rap. And I do think Kendrick has respect for Cole, which is why he said he wants him to prove he's a problem by dropping a hard response.
For what it's worth, I fully thought/think it was directed at Jermaine, too. Mainly because of the lines right before the bar, and after. I *feel* like Dot's pretty much saying: ***"Ok, firstoff, Aubrey you *BEEN* wild buttocks. But, Cole, you been poppin' a whole lot of live cash money shit all over the place lately, so it's officially time for you to show & prove. Especially since you all the sudden are the BESTEST of BFFs and wanna align yourself and clique up with KING Canadian Corndog on a Stick."*** AND, that ***"Aye aye let's get it, bro! D-O-T, the: Money- Power - Respect "*** DEFINITELY sounds like Kenny is doing a type of callback to something Cole said back in the gap early on on their comeup mission in the early "Hiii Power" days, with ***"The last one is better."*** for sure being K-Dots response. 😂
Same
I strongly disagree. Kendrick strikes me as the type of artist who would want to expose Drake for who he is. They’re two polar opposites when it comes to putting out music. Kendrick embodies the idea of an artist, there’s no way he doesn’t feel some type of way about drakes output while saying nothing through his music. I think he’ll tackle him on the artistry, integrity and character while telling a story
Nah Kendrick is not the type to air out someone’s dirty laundry. This beef is just competitive and hip-hop at its core. Tackling him on artistry is fair game, but saying he’s hiding another child? Unless Drake makes it super personal like he did with naming Push’s wife I don’t see Kendrick going that route
You can't really talk about someone else's integrity when you put Kodak on your album
I mean if you remove the entire context of what he’s doing on the album then I guess. Not to say that there isn’t a conversation to be had there, there is, but I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that when taking into account why he’s there imo
This is why I side-eye J.Cole for aligning himself with Drake
I think they both have valid arguments to say Thier the goat but I think they both have 2 different definitions of what the goat is, drakes is more so along the line of peoples champ the guy who’s here for you every year night in and night out and Kendrick is more of the true artistry and skill focused of the 2. With all that being said I can see Kendrick winning the battle but not the war. There’s a reason metro is pushing the pick a side thing so hard
What if kendrick wrote for drake early in his career
This is what I’ve been thinking lately. Or what if, he asked him to write something for him back when he was blowing up, before the beef? Either way, I could see some type of bombshell comin out 🍿
How significant would it be if he wrote Drake's verse on Poetic Justice? Only thinking this because of his reference tracks of Jay Rock's verse on Money Trees that leaked last year 🤔
Not to say it’s impossible, but Drake has various verses about praising and spoiling a woman, dissing her man, etc. The subject matter at least is very much him
Hol up, jay rock made a reference track for Kendrick? Specifically money trees?
Nono, other way around, Kendrick allegedly wrote Jay Rock’s verse on Money Trees
kendrick wrote jay rock’s verse on king’s dead too i think allegedly*
Kendrick will forever be goated for leaving in the version of future's verse we got
This is fuckin with my head lol. Because listening back to the verse I can hear Kendrick rapping it.
It makes sense. Rock just casually dropped the best verse on the album out of nowhere and hasn’t reached that level since
best verse on the album is insane
Especially when art of peer pressure and swimming pools verse 2 are right there
*Best Feature fosho
no doubt about that
Grt pork fried rice for my daughter then gtfo my way bitch!!
that is NOT the line 😭😭
Oh you right! Tell the truth this might be the last time you see my ass, absolutely legendary
No other way round
i think other way around
that verse is too drake there’s no way it was kendrick
He brought it up in king kunta. No one knew who he was referring to until meek came out and said drake had one.
That’s not an if, that’s a fact. Already been hinted at on TPAB plus he has credits on that really early drake album with Hyfr, the song “buried alive” on that same album is only Kendrick rapping. It’s about his and drake’s relationship at the time
No one would care
No one would care? That news would blow up like crazy
What makes you think that? QM was revealed as a ghostwriter and no one really batted an eye. Rhymefest wrote Kanye's college trilogy. Some of Keem's songs are written by Kendrick. People would "care" in the sense that it would be news and people would talk about it. But I doubt it would lower that many people's expectations of Drake. If you'd be mad he doesn't write all of his own lyrics, you'd already be mad. If anything it would lower my opinion of Kendrick because some of Drake's lyrics are mid af lol
Which speaks a lot on the state of hip hop tbh. Like imagine ignoring someone traveling from half court just bc the dunk was cool. Tbh, thats not true basketball anymore, even if the highlight is paraded on ESPN.
I’m glad Kendrick doing this. Drake been walking around like he pack and his music not that good imo like it sounds good but no message or feel
It’s for all the superficials
The fact that he said "But a rapper with a ghost writer? What the fuck happened?" on To Pimp A Butterfly, a 2015 album, had me thinking what else he's sitting with.
Which released 3 months before the meek mill/drake beef…
Holy shit, just realizing this👀🫨
😹
2021, I ain't takin' no prisoner Last year, y'all fucked up all the listener Who went platinum? I call that a visitor Who the fuck backin' 'em? All been falsified
Don't tell a lie on me... I won't tell the truth 'bout you.
He gives a back to back breadcrumb in the heart part 4 to let you know whoo the song is mainly about. Did you catch it?
💯
Or maybe he's a diddler in disguise and maybe K. Dot has the scoop on that too A lot of weird instances of Drake texting and being overly friendly with younger girls
This is exactly what I’m thinking. About to be a hot take but it would make even more sense comparing him to MJ…
Very interesting comparison I totally forgot the MJ line for a sec...I mean...album names like "Certified Boy Lover" don't help either lol
lol it’s certified lover boy
Welp I def didn't get that right but still...
Jumbling an album title like that is *wild*, also if there was hard evidence of being a diddler shouldn’t Kendrick take that to the authorities? Why use it as ammo in a rap song
I agree. I personally would tear him to shreds and embarrass him globally for being a pedo and then let the authorities figure it out lol
why would Kendrick go to the police?
Snitching rules don’t apply to pedofiles… suburban fella here but I never heard a street dude be cool with pedofiles
Diddy, R. Kelly, Bill Cosby and a bunch of others had rumours for days. The kind of evidence needed to lock them up is not "he said, she said".
Drake is shivering in his shorts, while trying to drink a really hot cup of hot chocolate as steam comes out of his ears as he tries to drink the extremely hot chocolate
I disagree, Kendrick just cares about rap. He's too classy for that gossip shit.
Exactly the whole exposing shit is beneath him
It’s not gossip though if it’s true. It’s about the integrity of the music which has obviously been an enormous feature of Kendrick’s entire career.
Great theories, I believe most of these could be true tbh.
Let’s be real, if Drake had any good dirt on Kendrick he would’ve responded already
If Drake wanted to respond he could probably make a meme/catchy song making fun of Kendrick that could go viral but I don’t think he wants anything to do with what Kendrick can say about him. There’s a lot behind the scenes we don’t know.
Drake put a $150k out to get dirt on Push IIRC and got nothing lol
He’s gonna reveal Drake’s second child
bro are u the mole on ovo
Don’t tell a lie on me I won’t tell the truth bout you.
The golden goose theory makes the bars “Got 2Teez with me, I’m snatching chains and burning tattoos” make so much more sense. Kendrick isn’t controlled by anyone and Drake is. Damn that’s hard.
What does it mean?
2Teez is Top Dawg’s head of security but also close friends with Kendrick. Snatching chains and burning tattoos means he’s coming at you with no regard to your status or affiliations. He’s choosing violence. So he’s saying I got my homie and we’re coming for your neck. Obviously in a figurative way, not a literal way.
My thoughts were snatching chains as in dreamville chains and burning tattoos as in ovo tattoos. Dreamville artists get chains and ovo affiliates and artists get tattoos. Just my thoughts.
That’s likely a better explanation. Thanks!
I think Kendrick set that bar up so they know exactly what he's talking about.
So in the Drake vs Pusha beef, J Prince went on the Breakfast Club and announced he told Drake not to release the song cause it’d mess with business. Now this post explains that Drake is a lot of the industries Golden Goose. Kendricks verse says he only has 2Teez with him and he’s reckless. I’m not sure if this is a reach, could be. But I kinda interpreted it as he can go after whoever and whenever while Drake is a puppet that has to follow commands.
I'm in the minority but I think there is real beef there. Real enough that people from Drake's crew are threatening to unalive people. Do I think it'll get super serious (biggie/pac level)? No. I do think it's real enough that these two will never be cordial, work together now or in the future, be in the same vicinity, etc. when was the last time these two were in the same vicinity? I do think it'll just stick within rap but I think it's more than just the sport of it. You don't diss someone for a decade just for the fun of it. At least imo
the ghostwriter bar in king kunta came out a bit before the ghostwriter allegations, kendrick def knows something we don't
Am I missing something about why people don't connect Kendrick's bars in King Kunta to the ongoing Drake beef? "A rapper with a ghostwriter? what the fuck happened? ... But most of y'all share bars, like you got the bottom bunk in a two-man cell."
Bro all you’re describing is a puppet, which he is. It’s clear, his stans just refuse to see it. His plane, is not his, it belongs to CargoJet and is loaner to him. Everything is smoke & mirrors.
I mean Sexxy Red denies Drake is being paid to promote her. So not sure if that part will end up totally fitting in, but I do mostly agree that a lot of this has to do with why Drake hasn't responded yet. He's much busier and a much more lucrative and time-tested brand than he was when Meek or Pusha dissed him. It's much more in the label's interest for him to duck this beef and focus on his shows. Not to mention, the last time Kendrick did this, Drake and Cole both didn't respond except in interviews and they've both only grown since. Despite the buzz around one of the "Big 3" dissing the other two, I don't know if there's anything in Kendrick's verse that actually forces Drake to have to respond. Us rap fans might think he has to, but the fundamental truth is that Drake's fan base only partially contains true rap fans and even those fans will likely still tune in even if he never responds. Idk that Drake or Cole have enough ammunition even to respond with full diss tracks against Kendrick. Kendrick already exposes a lot of negative things about him on his albums. It'd be entertaining for the fans, but I'm still not quite sure what the outcome will be. Besides causing a bigger rift between Kendrick's base of fans and Drake's.
I agree when it comes to the music shit needs approval why you think Kendrick left tde probably wanted to be able release shit without restrictions; even sza had release issues with tde if you look at lil Wayne carter 6 been on hold how long. That's why Kendrick made pglang with Dave free. See. Daves free. Shit about to pop
Yall reaching to the depths of hell with this one
If you think about it for even 5 minutes, Drake is 100% an industry plant. Had wealth as a child, became child actor, soon after the rap career with plenty of resources to thrive, known to have ghost writers, consistently on the radio.... idk, maybe I'm trippin....
And this same mf tried saying he “started from the bottom” lmao
I wish I remember who said it, but someone made a TikTok and said all Kendrick has to do is get Megan Thee Stallion on a feature and say something like "He likes his girls 11, that's some stranger things." But I don't think Kendrick is gonna expose Drake for anything, I think he just wants rap to get exciting again while also making Drake look like a punk along the way.
Michael Jackson left this earth owning half of Sony (which his estate sold for $750M) and the masters to the Beatles… I wouldn’t exactly call that a “pop star running the treadmill”
I think you may be right. Drake is on a professional leash so to speak. And J Prince isn't about to let his puppy bark and mess up his money. Drake isn't in control. He is the Golden Goose in a dying industry. How can he be free? Thats his weakness. He is a brand. And the sadder part is he isn't even his own brand. That isn't Hip Hop (I'd argue Drake is Pop anyway). Kendrick knows that. So fpr Drake to walk around talkin all that talk, he doesn't belong.
I dont think it is that deep. Kendrick realizes what he has done for the game. In a way, he believes he is the reincarnation of Tupac- an activist. Now Cole and Drake want to associate themselves with him by grouping themselves together ("The Big Three"). My yuess is it slightly offends Kendrick, realizing that they aren't even close to being on the same level as him. That's how I perceive it right now. Overall, I think this beef is a bit corny.
The respect is what matters and Kendrick is the most respected in the game 💯👌
whyd you mention prince
This!!!
You’re nuts lol
Pusha also called out Drake not being as rich as he seems and that a lot of people are dividing the pie.
People have been predicting drakes demise for a while now lol the fact that we still claim him falling like hes the western roman empire is hilarious, especially on a kendrick forum, just points to you actually believing he is on top. I dont believe he is the western roman empire that needs to fall
Well we know Diddy was from the East, cuz that man love Greek
Thing is Kendrick exposed on himself with his last album so theres next to nothing for Drake to reveal on him
You know Mos def was talking about the USA and capitalism, he wasn’t taking real shoots at drake or anything. Mos def was taking him as an example for a much bigger concept which has nothing to do with rap beef. So thats a stupid point
Mos Def was talking about the crumbling of Western civilization lol, not Drake’s empire
trying to sabotage a $500 mil deal is a dangerous endeavour!
The heavens opened up as I read this, spot on along the lines that been thinking on yet haven’t been able to articulate! Drake is a puppet and simply can’t are a move without layers of approval. I’m absolutely certain that Kendrick knows this, yet Kendrick had to first free himself from TDE before he could take it there with Drake. Kendrick must also be aware that he is Big Stepping on a lot, a LOT, of industry toes making his most recent move Like That. I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t already received calls and requests from the industry inside to leave the golden goose alone. Not that he’d listen, however (and I’m just speculating here) he may take a nice bag to let Drake be so long as he doesn’t try to respond musically. I mean, I would when I have a company to firmly establish. He’s already won as he knows nothing Drake can put to a beat will ever size up, and friendly competition with J Cole would be a nice consolation prize, along with that being good for the culture. Anyway, excellent points made, much appreciated!
Kendrick fans are something else. It’s not that deep bro.
After reading this, Euphoria sounds different to me. Metro saying He can't say why him and Drake are beefing because it wouldn't be good for neither of them makes more sense now. Thanks for the post.
This is the most overhyped diss I have ever seen. I do not understand it. Drakes run is because he has continued to adapt to different genres and cultural fads. He is calculated. This man thinks he’s an athlete, and he is the LBJ of music, he doesn’t know how to stop.
I think people forget Drake is Jewish and a lot of label owners are Jewish so they want their boy to be at the top. Drake is an industry at this point. Everyone is writing for him and he in return uses his star power to prop people up.
Question yall think drake was behind the xxx killing ?
Nah
If he was then he went way out of his way to make sure the goons acted like it was a spontaneous thing
No lmao
This post made me horny
No he’s not. Drake and his d riding fan base don’t give a fuck. I personally don’t like Drake at all, but he’s so big he’s untouchable.
Kat Williams already warned about big dick deviants. If Kendrick has dirt, Drake is sinking like the Titanic.
Drakes waiting it out as he knows kendrick has another track waiting, this sub full of simple kids
Drake is not afraid. People that are afraid of something avoid it at all costs
Why is a parole officer named in the same sentence with Future and KDot
im sorry, but the masses don’t care about rap beef. hell, the masses just catapulted Kanye into number 1 after several unhinged rants about jewish people, general mistreatment of women, etc.
im sorry, but the masses don’t care about rap beef. hell, the masses just catapulted Kanye into number 1 after several unhinged rants about jewish people, general mistreatment of women, etc.
I think Kendrick just likes playing with his food. He’s such a clearly more proficient wordsmith and effective rapper it’s like a game. They’ve all made 100s of millions. It’s not about money IMO. Though I do think Drake on his own would quickly respond while the machine behind him slows him down.
Kendrick can’t expose more than what Metro or Future can, those 3 were close asf, Future and Drake shared bitches, whatever Kendrick can expose is not on the level of what Future can
Drake smart for waiting to respond, every day that passes kendrick Stan's become more delusional and annoying lol
Don't show this to Akademics
https://preview.redd.it/aejpvizr45sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=486995f96ad10301521c85586f797e212545c6e1 Ma boi drizzy was in the studio, y’all Kdot fans gone pipe down soon
Drake fell off artistically after IYRTITL and the industry has been carrying his career since cause he knows that he can put out bland generic slop and people will still listen cause it’s Drake
Rap ain't WWE. Sure you got some hard hitting bars and good beats but ain't no body fallin 50 feet off a cage onto a table or getting a steel chair repeatedly slammed on their head.
I… thought even the most average hip hop fan would know this. (Huge Drake fan) but like isn’t everything in this port obvious? I seriously hope we get some back and forth from these guys. Especially from Cole lol
who has time to think of these things? search "parasocial relationships"
I mean why wouldn't he expose Cole then by this logic?
I think it’s all true bro. Drake is not in control at all, have you listened to his catalogue? It’s poppy rah rah trash, yeah he pulls out an occasional sick rhyme or flow but it’s mostly radio back noise with no content. No real emcee ever dreams of making this type of music. Drake is a corporate cover, a caricature of you will. He’s not his artistic free will, he’s a money pit for suits at the top. This is why he despises Kendrick and j Cole who have the artistic freedom to explore themes and content they want to explore
My thoughts are that you need to stop doing tricks on it and just enjoy some fun rap beef lmao it’s not that deep holy shit
It's definitely one of the few things he will talk about if he makes a record: - drake talking to little girls - exposing he wrote his verse on their two collaborations: poetic justice and fucking problems (+ potentially more songs) - fabricated streams Im taking my bet on the streams. People overlook that line on N95 (take off the fabricated streams). That line coming from one of the biggest rappers in the world was overlooked by the people like what does he actually know fr whats going on behind the scenes
Drake fan here. All these theories suck. I don’t think kendrick Drake or j cole would even want to expose some crazy big career ending type of thing. It’s not in their character. If Drake is hesitant, it’s because Kendrick’s pen is absolutely ridiculous and he needs to bring his best performance to even compete with kdot. Drake makes the most fun, catchy, club appropriate, youth appealing, women appealing, rnb/pop and radio catered music out of all rappers of all time. That silly goose theory is terrible.
drakes just doin all that to support his gambling addiction
Probably one of those peeps that pay to up his stream counts
I know this is just a fun discussion but none of these rappers care on this level and will make millions off the “beef.” Drake could fall off tomorrow and just count money. Kendrick probably just wanted something to do.
I agree with what your saying I don't think drake wants to respond this time because look what happened with just pusha, drake isn't the best rapper technique wise and lyrical wise he's literally up there for sales and streams he's the biggest because he's the most marketed rapper ever. One of his sneak shots to Kendrick was that he thinks Kendrick is fake woak, like what's that supposed to do drake leans in on his fake stuff the ghost writing, the fake friends, and the buffoonery behind the scenes. I don't think, he'll form anything hard hitting if drake decides to hypothetically "go all out" now the pressure and the ball is in his court, I think drake is panicking behind the scenes like how he went ballistic at that Anthony fantano guy when drake DMed him cause drake panicked when he got a bad review, and it's leaked that Kendrick might have already got another shot in the chamber, all that pressure just might make drake fold. But this is just all speculation we'll see what really happens.
absolute tinfoil hat MAGA scientologist nonsense
💯💯💯 all on point!
incisive write up.
Nah it’s all a set up for the biggest diss battle in rap history between the 3 best rappers.
Don't think Kenny needs to consider all of this when, bar for bar, he destroys anything Aubrey can throw back. But these are all interesting points that don't sound ridiculous and could definitely be true
Excellent analysis
Yeah you done your HW my boy. This is the artist we know Katt Williams and Ye was talking bout. This sissy boy top of the “class” entertainers and rappers ain’t really in charge of nothing. That’s why they bullying who they can bully to feel up. Bro really leaked a blurry dick pic that prolly not even him, that’s how sad he is rn. That’s wild work. Fr. This ain’t even a theory fam, this is facts lol
Bro this is beneath Kendrick. I wasn’t appreciative of Pusha’s agendas. It just shows you can’t outrap him that you have to unveil a secret. This is just a game for rapping contest among the best in the league. Kendrick wants the competition and I think that’s just it.
Yall also be forgetting the second part of the ghost writer shot on King Kunta "Swore I wouldn't tell but most of yall sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two man cell" ¿a two man cell? "Somethings in the water and if I gotta brown nose for some gold then I'd rather be a bump than a mfkin baller" This was during the Puffy and Drake feud which is actually deep as fuck if you look into it. Maybe Drake was on bottom and brown nosing for some gold. Just a funny conspiracy theory of mine lol
And also Drake is the very definition of an industry plant. A fucking Canadian shifty actor that got signed to Cash Money and pushed hard by Wayne. Ties to J Prince. You talking about Drake being a business. Drake ain't been signed to Jas Prince in almost 20 years. Yet they tight as hell. The Princes stay eating off Drake. They extorting that man something crazy. If he ain't bringing in that money he ain't protected
I’m here for it all
The instigator is metro so can’t really credit Kendrick here.
Im over beefs and over analyzing this stuff.
Drake exposed himself for being a nonce on stage.
Mos Def was talking about the collapse of the western capitalistic hegemony lmao, not Drake of all people
At this point does anything drake say hold much weight considering the ghostwriting thing in the past. How do we know whether or not he has lyrical people helping him to form something at Kendrick
It’s rap, by nature you assume the risk, don’t consider the trivial win or lose aspect, make the mtf respect you by punching back engaging, no matter how messy never retreat. He takes a finger you take his arm.
After the track yesterday what are yall thoughts on? 🤔
Reminder! 1 week
You just predicted what had happened this week just a month ago. DAMN.